CQN Charity Quiz Night

be there or be............]

shoots, scores, no i'm not boydichenko

It's being reported in the Daily Express that Celtic almost signed Tomislav Dujmovic last month - only for the Croatian midfielder to back out of an agreement at the 11th hour and join Lokomotiv Moscow from Russian rivals Amkara.

This is the same player that Celtic were linked with back in October and the following was reported at the time:

Celtic have pulled out of a proposed deal for midfielder Tomislav Dujmovic, according to the agent of the Croatia international.
Predrag Racki claims the SPL champions agreed pre-contract terms with Dujmovic last May.

The intended deal was with a view to a move when Dujmovic, who is contracted to Russian side Amkar, became a free agent next summer.
"We spoke to Celtic six months ago and had agreed terms on the transfer, but now it looks like Tomislav will be staying in Russia," Racki told the Glaswegian Evening Times.

"We had an agreement with Celtic but, for whatever reason, they have decided to pull out of the transfer.

"It is a surprise because Dujmovic is the top midfielder in Russia and he really wanted to go to Celtic because they are one of the top clubs in Europe.

"Dujmovic is out of contract in a couple of weeks and it looks like he will now be staying in Russia with Lokomotiv or Zenit, but it is more likely to be Lokomotiv.

"It is disappointing for Tomislav, but Celtic have made their decision. We will just have to accept their decision.

"I don't have a problem with it because I have known Gordon Strachan for some time and I will continue to do all I can to bring him quality players in the future."

Interestingly Predrag Racki is also the agent of Anas Sharbini.

this is a better finish than i will get at the quiz,,0)))

My goodness I'm early

was caught out by the new post.

I will be making my first trip of the season over to see the Bhoys that weekend and will be at the quiz. It will be a good chance to put faces to names.

Is 7 not a tad early especially if anyone wanted dinner after the match?

GOGO

Dublin

went with her indoors last year and stayed at the Morrison Hotel, a boutique type hotel over looking Liffey on the north side. Excellent rooms, bar, lounge and breafast. Link below -

http://www.morrisonhotel.ie/

Morning Paul and all,

See you all at the Quiz Night

craggy island gaa

From previous for Gogo

Gogo,
The Morrison Hotel is doing a special just now for doubles at the beginning of March €110 a room.

This is a very nice hotel. It'd be a good place for your anniversary. Just over the river from Temple Bar and right beside "the italian Quarter" that has some of the best Italian restaurants in the city and THE best Asian one "KOH". They also do great cocktails too.

Blooms and the Arlington are quite touristy, lots of weekenders.

Hark! The Darnel-saving Consortium!are on the Way

Did we not have a 'consortium' under the inspiring leadership of wee Jim Kerr in'94, or was it called something else?

Anyways, will be adding the Quiz to the ever-lengthening list of CQN bread and circuses-

The CQN quiz

The CQN golf day

The CQN 5-a-sides

The CQN blow football tournament, hosted in lovely Turra by the lovely Curly and the even lovelier Vicky.

can I just confirm that Marvin and I have never been there together (!)

Celtic_First on January 14, 2009 10:53 AM

Really? I always thought it was three words "That $£4%"£$ Thatcher".

I've heard the Doors on the Morrison Hotel can be a bit noisy..

I'll run a bath.

Malceye. hehe, it was just a coincidence, honest.

DBBIA,
Plus if your room is too small you can always break on through to the other side.....

What was the story behind "Administration-gate" on BBC Scotland last night?

Did Chick Young announce they were going under and was told to withdraw comments and apologise?

It's amazing how the UK Government has to call all sorts of enquiries if they want a retraction or apology off the BBC but David Murray gets one within minutes!

Or I could sleep all night in the Soul Kitchen..

Auldheid on January 14, 2009 10:27 AM
& bankieboy

On Boyd: Link is
http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.2481511.0.Boyd_The_Movie_has_limited_run.php

Having read this with glee at the end of the last article I thought I would do my bit to make sure it is appreciated by late-comers.

I've spread it among my Oz mates to make sure it gets maximum coverage.

Magnus

Paul - you're obviously wrong about Rangers financial situation. There's a very simple solution highlighted by our old friend Grandmaster Suck on FF. Why on earth didn't you think of this before getting us all excited about the state of the second biggest institution in the land. It's as simple as Murray signing another cheque !

There is a solution - sign a cheque Mr Chairman

By Grandmaster Suck Wednesday, 14th January 2009

There are rewards for football chairman, but there can also be a price. To paraphrase Hyman Roth - 'this is the game we've chosen.' And there are rules for chairmen who choose to play the game.

Since Advocaat left, since John McClelland became Chairman, we've been told that the skills the Chairman has so diligently applied to all his other businesses throughout his life would now be applied to Rangers.

After all this time, after all that money, is anyone mad enough to accept that Rangers are being competently run if half-way through a season and after years of a bread and water diet it's suddenly announced that to make ends meet we're going to have to flog those players - and they are all up for sale at knock-down prices - who might just be able to win the league for us and stop Celtic steamrollering to four-in-a-row and another Champions League jackpot?

It smacks of incompetence.

And along the way all the family silver has been sold, leased or tied up in deals - the Rangers Shops, land, contracts for umpteen areas of the business.

This summer we saw a high-risk gamble fall flat on it's face in Kaunas. The board thought they could save a few bob by getting to the Champions League on the cheap, save a few months wages and then sign a few bargain basement players ahead of the Champions League deadline. We fell flat on our faces and then indulged in a panic buying spree to keep the punters away from the front door.

For all the money that was spent in the summer how many have been even qualified successes? It hardly looks, smells or feels like a sleek operation. Yet we've paid our Chief Executive over £1.6million in the last three seasons to preside over this shambles. If he can't budget better than that what is the point of having him? At any price.

Selling our top goal-scorer in a league we're only won on the last two occasions on goal difference half-way through the season when Celtic have just thrown us a lifeline is utter madness.

THE FANS TO BLAME?
It started last night on BBC Scotland apparently with Pat Nevin effectively telling the country Rangers fans are ungrateful. How long before Wee Chick, Traynor, McInnes and the usual suspects all pen similar to try and set the mood music?

The Bears have played our part - we pay top dollar for season books - compare the prices in England with those at Ibrox, consider the difference in player quality, and you can't but conclude we pay way, way, way over the odds for what we get. Fact.

Pundits say we don't understand how football works, We don't need freebies and exclusives to help us 'understand.' In fact we understand perfectly.

We understand the unwritten contract - we pay, you deliver.

THE OPTIONS FOR SIR DAVE?
We can rehash the arguments for or against Sir Dave being good for Rangers. Certainly winning Nine In A Row when we never lost more than £825,000 in a season compares favorably with recent performances!

The Chairmen of Rangers have rarely been weaklings or fools. And that's how it should be - hard-bitten men who know how to turn a coin. But, and it's a big but, they also need to be problem solvers. And this current solution won't wash.

There are times in life when the only way to solve a problem is to sign a cheque.

In the past the Chairman has put in money - either to maintain his shareholding above 50% or to stave off financial meltdown.

The £50m put in a few years ago was not from the goodness of his heart. It was necessary to solve the problem of £11,000 a day in interest payments which simply weren't getting any better. Former Trust Chairman Colin Glass had got wind that Ibrox was to be leased back and the fans would effectively have to cough up the £70million generated over the following 25 years. None of us thought giving the Chairman £70million to play with and mortgaging our future was a good idea. So, we argued and campaigned and in the end there were two options left - hope a dual miracle would happen (players improve and fans stay quiet) or put in capital.

Today we again find ourselves at a crossroads. There are four options.

1/ Outside investors
2/ Get the punters to cough up to higher prices
3/ Sell more assets
4/ Inject more capital

I recall a conversation with one of the older and wiser heads on the Trust Board ahead of a meeting with Rangers when we discussed how we would hand it. He said to me - 'Murray's a man who understands he has to pay for his fun. If he has to he'll solve this problem the way he solves other business problems - he'll sign a cheque.'

Rangers fans have more than played their part in the last 20 years. The Chairman took the risks, he reaped the rewards and now he has to pay the bill when things have gone so disastrously wrong. He has to sign a cheque.

Mort @ 11.00 am,It was hard to get a city centre venue on a Saturday night, the early start is because the venue is a night club & will revert to the "jiggin'" as soon as we're finished

Meltdown.

Loving this.

whooosh Yo! paul67..good luck for quiz night, hopefully the charity coffers will benefit.
yo! peeps what gives? Hello i love you! we could be so good together!
strange days! although i guess people are strange too.
im waiting for the sun here, hoping for an indian summer after a wintertime love
..gotta take it as it comes i guess...
when the musics over i might take an easy ride or a moonlight drive in my spanish caravan..
five to one that i got outbid on ebay..tell all the people that i think bidding is finished..who won?
ridersonthestormCSC

this place used to be a "jazz"club...which is nice...
http://www.winchesterclubglasgow.com/

I hope no one asks for 'Easy Lover'by wee Phil Collins when the jiggin'starts...

Murray will sign a cheque.....but he'll forget to date it. "Ooops, silly me. Send it back to me and I'll write you a new one. Now, you won't go closing me down seeing as how the cheque's in the post,will you?"

"What do you mean, I forgot to sign the second one? Oh, right. Well, I can only apologise for that oversight. My mind is all over the place at the moment. I'll get a new one of to you asap.Now you won't go closing me down in the meantime will you? Ha Ha!"

"Well of course the third one's dated 14 January 2010. That's when I signed it. What do you mean this is 2009? Do you know what? I've completely lost track of time. A new one's on its way as we speak. Now you won't go closing.....Hello? Hello? Are you still there? Bloomin' Hell Tan Man, the line's gone dead. Send over wan o' thon pigeons pronto wi' a provvie cheque"

By any chance are there enough CQNers in the east to run something like this in Embra?

damn and i meant to say " the end" ...
belated happy birthday to unew mike...

Mort - you've been away too long. We have 'Tea' after the game, perhaps en papier! So plenty of time for 7 O'Clock.

Looking forward to a good night - see you there.

Quizking

no worries, I'll just have to make do with an extra pie or 2 at the match.

Cadizzy -Haraldina's sister works for the Provvie[ given their generally Darnelist tendencies I'm certain it's not the Provos].

I could ask her to send her round with the necessary paperwork. They'll no'need directions how to get there, either..

dbbia> hope you are well...i think pablo is in charge of the tunes :-)im not sure if he has that phil collins 78 ..8 track thingy...

Rangers transfer activity - leaked daily record memo

Subject: Transfer Window

All,

I am sure that you do not need to be reminded that the Transfer Window is creeping ever closer. As such it is of vital importance that each and every one of you is fully aware of your responsibilities at this very important time.

Consequently I would like to take this opportunity to draw your immediate attention to the ‘Daily Record – Transfer Window Style Guide’.

This is a document you should all be very familiar with. However, due to recent revisions it is crucial that you re-familiarise yourself with the guide as a matter of urgency.

As you know the style guide sets out clear and definite instructions on the coverage of all stories regarding the Transfer Window and related issues. Under no circumstances should these be strayed from.

Any queries or questions regarding the content of the guide should not be addressed directly to Sir David or Mr Bain but rather raised in the first instance with myself. After that all further communication will be conducted via your union/legal representative.

Transfer Window – Style Guide

(1)Rangers FC do not ‘buy’ or ‘sign’ players. They ‘swoop’ for players. The extraordinary nature of these swoops must be emphasised at all times by preceding the word ‘swoop’ with at least one of the following choices - ‘sensational’ ‘stunning’ ‘exciting’ ‘audacious’ or ‘ambitious’.

(2)Celtic FC do not ‘buy’ or ‘sign’ players. They ‘finally complete’ deals. The hugely dull nature of this event should be emphasised at all times by using at least one of the following terms - ‘protracted’ ‘long-running’ and ‘drawn out affair’.

(3)Any overseas transfer target of Rangers FC is, without fail, also being pursued ”…by a host of Europe’s top clubs”.

(4)Rangers FC must then be referred to as “battling it out for the signature…” of this ‘hot property’ and ‘wanted man’.

(5)The exact identity of these elite club’s will be selected on a random basis but must contain at least one of the current top 4 sides in Italy, Germany and Spain. One of these may be substituted by Lyon but no other French club.

(6)If the said player signs for Rangers FC then the club have “pulled off a sensational coup”. To avoid unnecessary confusion under no circumstances should the player be asked why he turned down these previously reported top clubs. Instead the player will “modestly refuse to comment on the speculation”.

(7)Any overseas player purchased by Rangers FC under the age of 21 years is a ‘wonder kid’.

(8) Any overseas player purchased by Celtic FC under the age of 21 years is an ‘unknown youngster’.

(9)In recognition of the club’s international stature it is appropriate that the transfer fees received and paid by Rangers FC should initially be quoted in Euros. After this initial use the term of currency quoted should be dropped and thereafter, whenever possible, the figure referred to only by approximate amount.

(10)Should Rangers FC purchase a Scottish player from a domestic rival then this story must be accompanied by a double page spread praising the club’s willingness to invest in home-grown talent and how this is of the benefit to the national side and indeed the country as a whole.*

(11)Should Celtic FC purchase a Scottish player from a domestic rival then this story must be accompanied by a double page spread condemning the club’s willingness to rape rivals of home-grown talent and how this is to the detriment of the national side and indeed the country as a whole.*

*Billy Brown and Jim Jeffries are again willing to contribute. However, please note due to current financial constraints within the company the expenses department has placed a limit of four fish suppers per contributor

(12)Any player linked with Rangers FC who has not made a strongly worded denial of the said move should be referred to issuing “…a come and get me plea.”

(13)Clubs unwilling to lower their asking price to meet the perfectly acceptable bid placed by Rangers FC must be strongly condemned. All stories of this nature must include the words/terms “staggering asking price” “inflated fee” “outrageous demands” and “holding to ransom”. The player involved in this deal must be referred to as “the want away star’ and it is imperative that any story fully informs the reader how the immoral stance of the selling club could “jeopardise a dream move to Ibrox” for a player “whose heart is set on a switch to Glasgow”.

(14)Clubs unwilling to up their bid to meet the perfectly reasonable fee placed on a player by Rangers FC must be strongly condemned. All stories of this nature must include the words/terms “insulting” “laughably derisory bid” “on the cheap” “deliberate attempt to unsettle” and “outrageously low offer”.

(15)The signing of an overseas player by Rangers FC must be accompanied by a two page spread stating how they will become as good as their nation’s most famous footballer. For example: Rangers’ Romanian new boy was last night tipped to be the man who could finally fill the boots of Gheorghe Hagi. Mark Hately is willing to contribute to this article.

(16)The signing of an overseas player by Celtic FC must be accompanied by a two page spread questioning whether they are good enough for the SPL. Gordon Smith is willing to contribute to this article.

(17)If Rangers FC sign a player who has – at any point of their career - been watched by any member of the Celtic Park staff (including Superstore employees, programme sellers and outsourced catering workers) then they will have “…sensationally snatched” the said player “..from under the nose of the Parkhead club”.

(18) If Celtic FC sign a player who we previously linked with Rangers FC then it will be because “After initial tentative interest Rangers decided to pull out of the chase” thus “…leaving the road clear for Celtic”. The player in question “..represented poor value for money..” and was “…no better than the players already available to the Rangers boss.”

(19)The fact that Sir David Murray owns a private jet and a vineyard in the south of France are integral elements of any Rangers transfer story and failure to recognise this will see copy spiked.

(20)Finally, as in previous years our colleague at the Sunday Mail will again be organising ‘Operation Moonbeams’ which is as usual planned for the first weekend in February. Our duty is to ensure quality follow-up coverage. While details of the current operation are being finalised you are advised to familiarise yourself with Glasgow City Council’s Draft Regeneration Project for Govan and NASA’s proposed manned mission to Mars.

bK2 @ 11.36, I'm setting the quiz however I'm Embra based & run a number of quizzes in Embra pubs, if there's enough interest I'm sure we could sort something, maybe eventually an east versus west challenge?

Rangers Savior??

whoops! B2k sorry

Hello All,

Anybody have spare tickets for the game a Pittodrie on Sunday?

Quizking -

What about the North??

Cyrul

Ulrcy, I quite fancy a trip to the north east, not been there for ages, as the saying goes, book me & I'll come!!

DiCaniosGoldenBoots
from what i heard you can usually pick up tickets outside the ground when supporters busses arrive
you from aberdeen?

Hey Paul67 man

Whoo yeah come on!! Hope your gonna whoo yeah awwwlright awlright awlright include a whoo yeah come on!!! question about whoo uh hu me and the whoo come on!!! band in this quiz whoo yeah come on!!! night awlright awlright awlright COME ON!!!!!!!

aldo > Was gibt es Neues? Du bist in guter Stimmung. Fein.

Mort

If my English was better I could fabricate few similar articles per day.
Reading NEWS from newsnow gives me amusement. That story about Dujmovic is at least one month old. The source was the interview given by them to the Russian press. According to the player and his agent pre contract was ready to for signing. I don't know if that is true, but if it's true Celtic dropped their interest on the last moment. Club must have had some resons to do so.
Re. Anas Sharbini. There were two clubs from Croatia interested in the player. One was Hajduk and the other Dinamo Zagreb. Hajduk said today they are not for Anas Sharbini. Now player's agent said he will try to sell Anas to Dinamo, will search for the buyer abroad, or the player stays in Rijeka club for the next season. From that I assume that Celtic interest was not very strong.

Newspapers back pages are the scratch cards.

Jim Morrision
its a tad on the chilly side here...
... any chance you could pop round and light my fire? :)

Roll up Roll Up

http://www.scotsman.com/CustomPages/CustomPage.aspx?PageID=76994

Put your questions online direct to Andrew Smith of the Scotsman on Sunday regarding RAngers financial crisis I mean blip

Curly
Are we entering a North East team in the Quiz?

you "people are strange"

Thanks to everyone for the Dublin Hotel info. Will check them all out tonight when I get home.

Hail Hail
Gogo

dziendobry zbyszek> bin ich im gehoebener stimmung!. ich habe jetz meine Demenz gradqualifikation geführt. wie gehts mit dir?
wie sagt man das> "na razie"?
hopefully it makes sense!

Hey lucky number 7 man

whoo yeah come one!! its awwww yeah cold whoo come on!! where i am awlright awlright too whoo yeah come on!!!! you'll have to light your whoo come on!!! own fire man whoo as i'm still whoo uhhu trying to whoo awlright break through whoo yeah COME ON!!!

Aldo - I am very much in the pink, thanks.

Yrluc- what is all this teams from the North, teams from the East? Is it CQN Come Dancing?

DBBIA/PeterWestCSC

awww Jim Morrison we could be so good together, its cold here, cars are hissing by my window, its so cold my toes have the roadhouse blues in my little hyacinth house now that summers almost gone. just come to the back door man. The End. :)

wow this is scary..long dead rock stars posting on the blog...
next thing there will be a rumour that "elvis" will have signed for an SPL club...
aretheremartiansoutthere?CSC

DBBIA> good to hear sir!
jim morrison, lucky number 7..good music guys...not so sure about the "blue bus" stuff on the end though..whats that all about jim?

some opinions please
if they have been asked for before I apologise but this one has me puzzled as I haven't noticed anybody on Celtic websites or in the press pick up on it
Walter(the man with no surname but a Particularly nice cardigan)
stated that he 'wants' to reduce the first team by around 10 players from the 28 he has now . This means he would have a 1st team of 18 players supplemented by @ 4 youngsters I think that was his words this makes 22.
Now in an SPL game including the substitutes you have 16 players utilised all very well so far . But consider this what happens when they get a spate of injuries bit like the situation we are just recovering from what happens say if a flu bug or similar hits the dressing room do those of us in the civillized world have to watch them postpone matches and the demand extensions to the league when they start piling up.All thoughts welcome but be easy on me if you think my points are laughable.

As the quiz is in the Winchester Club, will there be any guest appearance's by Arthur, Terry or Dave ?

Hail Hail

Possilbhoy,

I believe that Terry is, at this very moment, concentrating on writing the feem toon and singing the feem toon for the quiz. Although I could be wrong.

I'll get me coat....

Paul67

You're awful quiet. Did you see my question RE: Appiah last night?

Greenyin :- What I hope will happen is that the cut down squad gets boodted by a number of younger players. This wouldn't be my first choice as I would rather we had a squad with both quality and quantity but under the present regime that isn't going to happen. In our youth team and reserve team we have three or four youngsters that I feel could step into the first team if given a chance. There are another two or three that I feel may be capable of stepping up if introduced in the right way. I know that a good youth carreer doesn't mean you will make it at senior level but right now I would rather we gave them their chance.
This would leave us with a squad of around 25 and should be adequate for a season with no European football.

in the above boodted should be boosted though I'm sure a few of you wold rather it was booted :-)

Bhass Bhoy,

Channel 5 are actually broadcasting a new Minder show this month with Shane Ritchie in the starring role. Sacrilege.

I suppose it will still be better than watching the manky mob ?

Hail Hail

Ed- A few of us even wish wold was would ;~)

Can you make it to the Quiz night?

Auldheid from last night:

"Of course predictions are risky, it all depends on the projection of existing circumstances and who knows what external factors as yet unknown will come into play? You could argue that for all SDM's decline was forecast by some, few could have seen it would take a melt down of the banking system to hasten the day".

When something is unsustainable - a business strategy, the build-up of snow on a steep slope, the weight on a camel's back - we can be sure it will come to an messy end. The timing and the direct cause of that end are rarely so clear in advance - otherwise I'd be sitting on a beach now after making big bets against the stock market last year.

"A related thought that occured to me on the latter arising from the charge in the Hugh Adam's article that SDM is more an impresario than a businessman, is that the bankers (with a b)who supported him appear to be cut from the same jib. Is it not a coincidence that two of Scotland's leading banking institutions rose too high, too far, too soon?(cheers Rumour Mill)".

"Scots used to be famous if not more for being mean, certainly for our frugality and financial prudence. What on earth happened to that attitude, how did the nation that gave the world Adam Smith lose touch with reality?"

Someone else replied 'Thatcher'. If we're going to be historical, why not blame William Wallace for encouraging the Scots to over-reach themselves? People, everywhere, always, learn (if at all) mostly from their own mistakes, not those of others, and especially not from those of the past.

The Scotish banks succumbed to a herd instinct, and followed their peers over a precipice. Why? That behaviour, like any stampede, can be traced to more immediate causes. I see the main cause of our current problems as a series of gigantic acts of economic hubris over the last 10 years by governments worldwide, with the US leading the way.

In the UK, the oveweening ego of the man who claimed ("no more boom or bust") to have abolished the thousands-of-years-old business cycle led to the government spending vast amounts of money money it didn't have and couldn't hope to repay honestly, in a vain attempt to justify that ludicrous claim. At the same time, it encouraged businesses and ordinary individuals to do exactly the same, via recklessly low interest rates.

The the resulting decade-long splurge only delayed the day of reckoning, and every month that passed without a correction magnified the strength of the inevitable resulting recession.

The negative consequences of this fiscal folly will greatly outweigh and outlast the short-term benefits, for the country and Rangers alike.

So to answer your question directly: take a bow Messrs Brown and Greenspan (along with a considerable supporting cast, headed by Bush and Blair). It's no coincidence that their reputations for economic competence are heading south at the same time as Murray's, just as quickly and just as deservedly.

"But back to fitba. Have we signed a left back yet?"

Yes! An exciting young talent from the Czech Republic, snatched from under Milan's nose!

glasshalffullCSC

possilbhoy> lol..cant get this tune out my head now!! thanks!!

"If you want to I'll change the situation.
Right people, right time; just the wrong location.
I've got a good idea: Just you keep me near. I'll be so good for you.

I could be so good for you. I'm gonna help ya!
Love you like you want me to. I'll do anything for you . . . I'll be so good for you.

I could be so good for you. I'll do it like you want me to.
Love you like you want me to. There ain't nothing I can't go through . . . I'll be so good for you."

aldo

Alles gehen Gut bei mir. Ich wirke als agent fur Japan chemisch firma. Heute suche Methylcyclohexane Dicarboxylic Anhydride in Russland.Russland ist meiner Markt. Ich wohne in Warschau jetzt, aber Dusseldorf buro warte in Juni. Ich mus Deutsch noch einmal lernen. Glaube Demenz gradqualifikation is nicht schwer fur dich.
"Na razie" ist ausgezeichnet. Sehr gut, aldo.

lucky number 7

Yeah,

Cheers maybe do that then.Its nots too far home if i dont manage to get then.

Magnus

That Herald link very much like an artical instructed by Murray last night.

I didnt see any footage of the game but Ive heard there was a banner and chants urging Murray out and support for Boyd, correct me if Im wrong.

Murray wouldnt have liked to hear that and is fed up with Boyd digging his heels in against a move.

Next day you have an artical attacking Boyd, and to quote:

'There was the obligatory rant at Sir David Murray with a solitary protest banner in the stand. There was the chorus in support of the chairman who was in attendance'

I find it hard to believe that even the most bewlidered of Rangers supporters would chant in support of Murray, timposters?

He is still using his media pals.

DBBIA :- I wish I could but I have too much on around then, in my family they seem to think Jan and Feb are for popping out babies so too many presents to buy. Though maybe it's a good thing as whoever gets me in their team would need a huge points start to try and keep up with the others.

E.U who got one question right at the last cqn quiz.

Sheany :- They did play those tunes last night and I have to admit it was funny, it's not often a wee team gets to laugh at a bigger team so I'm sure they enjoyed it.
Even the Rangers fans got in on the humor bit last night singing "Broxi Bear he's not for sale" perhaps it will become our equavalent of your "Bright side of life" song.

Cadizzy - In the words of the Rangers Song:

No income tax, no V.A.T.,
No money back, no guarantee,
Black or white, rich or poor,
We'll cut prices at a stroke......
God bless Hooky Street,
Viva Hooky Street,
Long live Hooky Street,
C'est magnifique, Hooky Street,
Magnifique, Hooky Street,
Hooky Street

aldo 67

wow this is scary..long dead rock stars posting on the blog... next thing there will be a rumour that "elvis" will have signed for an SPL club... aretheremartiansoutthere?CSC

From 'Men in Black':

Jay: You do know Elvis is dead, right?
Kay: No, Elvis is not dead. He just went home.

EstadioNacional :- Right now it would only be timposters chanting in support of Sir David.
Pat Nevin commented on the banner last night, seemingly we should all be grateful to the management, according to him football fans know nothing about how clubs are run and we should bow down and worship the ground the chairman walks on.
The thinking mans commentator? I think not.

Edward

I appreciate your point and as you said for a season without European football but this seemed like a long term strategy to me and at one point unless rangers do end up as a mid table mediocrity,and as much as I am an optimist I am not convinced this will happen,they will qualify for the big stage and then whta happens?
Trust me I have no great interest in Rangers but it is the possible disturbance to the rest of the league primarily Celtic when lack of 1st team numbers bite.
And of course why is it that I can see this and the Scottish football press has not.

greenyin

EdwardUrsus

I didnt think there would be chanting in support of Murray.

Im affraid Im with Pat Nevin on the gratitude towards your teams management, apologies.
Apart from that Im no fan of him.

zbyszek> danke fuer dein freundlichen worte. Dein deutsch gehts besser als meinem. ich bin heraus..(ubung?). Gutes glueck in duss in juni..ich muss das Haus jetzt verlassen..bis bald (na razie)!!
aldo

Heard from a usually reliable source Chick Young's £10M comes from
£5M operating costs (probably mainly wages)until end of season
£3M for player transfer balances still owed believed to be Davis Mendes and Lafferty
£2M intersest due on debt in this accounting period
Would this be a reasonable deduction ?

Zbyszek - are you going to move to Dusseldorf in June or is it a temporary thing? Hate to lose our Eastern European super scout!

L
TTTT

I hope this Kaka story is resolved quick SkySportsNews constantly showing the Kaka goal from the CL last 16 game from two years ago, they must have other goals they could show.

neilR> elvis has played for many clubs now!
okies bedlam awaits
im outta here tc peeps
slan
aldo

tommytwiststommyturns

Thats possibility on the horizon. First of all I must do well untill the end of May for the company. It scares me becouse I'm not the professor for chemistry.I know what is C2H6O or what is CAS No 64-17-5, but some others... are black magic. I hope I'll stay and will work from here. I see you speak German. Ha, ha.
Even If I move I'll be in contact.
Cheers mate.

NeilR

Corporate governance nonsense will have to wait till tonight.
First thoughts are that you are taking the dry, textbook, US viewpoint while I am looking at what actually happened.

Very interested on your take on the current financial malaise.
I fear our disagreement on this will be even more deep and heated.

Your thoughts on GB are pretty cheap, straight out of the current Tory playbook and as such fundamentally wrong.

We are where we are due to the instability in the world economy due to the death of the great American dream - middle class lifestyle for working class people. The killer fact is that median income in the US has fallen in real terms since 1972. Clinton stopped the rot but overall it has been a 36 yr decline.

All of this when signifant income growth has been generated in the economy overall, just a csae of those at the top reached the starosphere.

Concomminant with this has been the huge increase in consumer debt in the US where even middle class families over-reached themselves to fund the lifestyle paraded by the new super rich top 2%.

The US is currently Edwardian England on tick 100 years later.

The same dynamics have generated to huge US trade deficit which has built up over this period means that everything was on a knife-edge. Add in the peaks and troughs of the past 20 years and something had to give.

Issues to take into account -

East Asian industrialisation / need for investment.
Asian "flu" and Russian issues in 98/99.
Dot com boom with all the over-investment that followed.
Trade imbalances, rush to off shore.
9-11 and the low interest rate policy in the US.
Raw material inflation.
Iraq War expenditure - US to the fore.
House price explosion in the US, unknown before as they have all that land.
Sub-prime scandal in the US. NR was small potatoes in this company.

The UK is a small player which has been monstered by external events. All the events seem to have been a case of someone on a losing playing double or quits.

Had to end sometime.
Sub Thatcherite nonsense from DC/GO are the shrieks of the lost and the bewildered.

GB not blameless in all of this but he was doing what he had to do. 11yr record was only stopped by the monster of a global scale slump.

For the record I think he needs to do more / spend more.

EN @ 12.54

I don't doubt that Minty can instruct or lead journos to publish info in his interests but I don't think the Hugh McDonald article falls into that category. He may not wish to discomfit SDM unduly as that would risk the Herald losing more readers but I'm sure he did not invent the chant in support of Lord Moonbeams.

Hugh is guilty of using language to distort the picture (a "solitary" protest versus a "Choir" of support) but the main purpose of the article was to be humorous about Kwistoffer rather than to critique the Ibrox slouch towards insolvency.

I laughed out loud at several points. It was very funny.

I have to say that, if I managed a top flight club, I would not be in favour of buying KB because he does not do well against better defences. He contributes greatly to rankers SPL challenge but gave little towards rangers Euro successes and will, I feel, fail to make the grade if Brum get promoted.

To Masty and Others ref Proofof Age for concession tickets, the following was sent into the Ticket Office earlier, following yesterday's letter and subsequent email from me;

Dear Ticket Office Manager,

Thank you for your note (in response...).

I appreciate that the club wishes to verify the details of all supporters who use a concessionary season ticket, and this is in order.

I have verified this for your assistance on a number of a occassions now, both recently and historically.

Fundamentally, I have three objections to providing any more evidence than I have already:

1) That you, a commercial enterprise, propose to keep on file the birth certificate of a minor. This is simply an unacceptable risk to the security of his identity.
2) That the clear inference to be drawn from your continuing demand for further evidence is that you believe I am lying to you, or am being otherwise deceitful or fraudulent in using the season ticket in the first instance.
3) That your demand, and it's subsequent threat, is post contractual.

I will leave it at the discretion of the club to decide whether to accept my word on the matter of my son's age, and thereafter to maintain the validity of my son's season book, or to cancel it as you have threatened.

I trust that in cancelling the ticket, you will of course refund the pro rata balance. As this seat is part of a package including my own adult seat, should you choose to cancel my son's ticket, please also cancel my own simultaneously. I will expect no less a refund from my own season ticket.

Please advise by return.

Kind regards,

Greetings all,

I have now arrived in Glasgow only to find that the place i was about to move into has gone. Anyone know where i can find a short term (approx 3 month) let?

By the way, oh my god its coldddddddddddddddddddd

inkybhoy

How you doing, my flexible friend?

Did you spot the Scotsman link at 12.03?

In Andrew Smith's replies, he seems to be confident in asserting that the Record was the house paper for Ibrox. Was it a Record journo that challenged him to a fight? Could not have been Shug (or is that what was meant by 'stick to boxing") so it must have been a fat Airdrie suporter, no?

NeilR - You hit the nail on the head about the causes of this economic crisis. For the past decade, governments luxuriated in the warm glow of the so-called "miracle economy" built on cheap credit, with nary a care for what would happen when the bubble inevitably burst.

Now the same politicians and central bankers who created the credit bubble are brazenly demanding that we get into even more debt as a society to solve an economic problem caused by debt!

Unfortunately most people are fundamentally ignorant of how markets work and the government's role in money creation, so they demand that "something must be done!". Even when "something" turns out to be throwing good money after bad.

The recession should not be our biggest worry, it is an inevitable, if painful, correction the market needs to go through before stability can be restored to the system. What is more worrying is the billions and trillions of pounds being stolen from taxpayers and funnelled towards politically well-connected banks and big businesses, and the madness that is a government which openly admits to trying to spend its way to prosperity.

JJB - Just when you thought it was safe to look again ....

From Management Today

JJB admits it is heading for a £10m loss after a poor Christmas - and its CEO has lost all his shares...
More bad news from sportswear retailer JJB Sports: it admitted today that like-for-like sales fell by 7% over the Christmas period, which is likely to leave the chain somewhere between £5m and £10m in the red for the year to January 25.

To make matters worse, it was also forced to confess yesterday that CEO Chris Ronnie no longer owns his 27% stake in the business, because he was forced to hand it over to failed Icelandic bank Kaupthing last year – but hadn’t bothered to mention it to the rest of the board. Presumably there’s no way Ronnie can survive that – so it looks like JJB will also find itself looking for a new boss …

Perhaps it's a wee career opening for Sir Minty.

Is the quiz a football only quiz?

The Mrs loves quizzes.

Does anyone think that being AIM-listed has had a major (positive) effect on the running of the financial side of our club? Perhaps given that Skinty is the Chairman of a private 'institution,' his standards have slipped given the lack of regulation.

Or have I had too much coffee this morning?

Gus.

Also on the economics front, an unusually prescient report from the BBC in 2005:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/panorama/4243108.stm

Brown's miracle economy

The Prime Minister calls him "the best chancellor for 100 years." He is the man who has overseen the longest economic expansion in modern times, and hopes one day soon to ride his economic record right into Number 10.

Panorama asks whether Gordon Brown's miracle economy is as miraculous as it seems. BBC economics reporter Stephanie Flanders examines whether we have experienced a sea-change in Britain's economic fortunes, or another old-fashioned spending binge that will eventually run dry.

As Gordon Brown prepares for a record ninth party conference as Chancellor of the Exchequer, Stephanie takes a cycling tour of Britain, to see for herself how much has really changed since 1997 - and how much has not. Along the way she interviews Brown's former right-hand man, Ed Balls, and the man who passed the Chancellorship on to Gordon Brown - Tory leadership contender, Ken Clarke.

In Cowley, Nottingham, Birmingham and the North-East, Stephanie finds an economy that has grown for a longer period than since records began - but not always with the kind of improvement in Britain's underlying performance that Gordon Brown said he wanted in 1997. In the country as a whole, exports have done badly: the trade gap has worsened every year that Labour has been in office. The productivity gap between Britain and other leading economies has barely budged and investment is at a record low.

Stephanie finds, as she travels the country, that it is spending and borrowing that has filled the gap - thanks to cheap money and cheap Asian imports. But with consumers and the Government both needing to save more and spend less, these sources of growth may be about to fall away. And outside of the Treasury, few seem very confident that there is enough left of the miracle economy to fill the gap.

Stephanie Flanders. Now you're talking.

Currently on maternity leave, one believes.

What a gal, what an economics reporter.

Come back soon Stephanie.

Naka'sLeftPeg @ 1.38, the quiz will be a mixture of general knowledge etc with a few "Celtic" questions mixed in....bring your Mrs she'll love it!

madmitch

Your comments are extremely wide-ranging, I couldn't begin to respond to most of them; there is far too much space between your dots for me to understand the picture you are drawing.

A couple quick points though:

I have absolutely no idea, and a similar amount of interest, on the 'current Tory playbook'; I sing from no political hymn sheet. If the Conservatives are talking along these lines, then there is some small hope that the situation will improve if they a) win the next election and b) act in line with their words. On which, I wouldn't bet a brass farthing. Anyway, my post analysed the past, and gave no recommendations for the future; I make a living by charging for sight of my 'playbook'!

I'll close with this quote from you: "GB not blameless in all of this but he was doing what he had to do. 11yr record was only stopped by the monster of a global scale slump.

This competes with your 'Celtic are poorly run, only kept going by the fact they get CL income every year line' for belly-laugh of the week.

Try this little thought experiment. Substitute 'DM' for 'GB', and see how silly it looks.

GB has been in charge of the UK's finances for the last 11 years, and contrived to produce an annual deficit in public finances of 5%. Not in the middle of a recession, when such a figure might be justified, but right at the top of the economic cycle, and going into the biggest depression the world has seen for 75 years. He is a busted flush, a monster ego crashing to earth, a charlatan who has undone an entire country's finances, a veritable Murray of a man.

Which is not to say that the next lot will be any better....

Quizking. Sounds good to me. Thanks

celtic _First

new PP, you have mail.

BT

Is the quiz limited to a certain amount of odd balls (just thinking about my lot) per team ?

Hail Hail

just spoke to BJORK as she was leaving glasgow airport just a matter of minutes ago, i shouted over to her , hey BJORK what is the score on any celtic fc transfers,
no wit she said.

"It's Oh So Quiet"

NeilR

Time only for one comment -

" .. at the top of the economic cycle, and going into the biggest depression the world has seen for 75 years"

Your words exactly, contradiction in terms I think.
You cannot be at the top of the cycle and with one bound be in a depression. No no and thrice no.

All the rest is lightweight nonsense.
The charlatan who has undone the nation's finances - I think not.

WC / 1924 = Yes
NL / 88 budget = Yes
MT over her 11 years in power = Yes

Consequently I feat your thoughts on GB appear over-excited.
I fear he may have a stalker.

C1st- to tide you over 'til she returns-Stephanie

NiarNotFar

Try www.gumtree.com and look at the Glasgow bit.

DBBIA

Thanks.

Quelle femme. Quelle air de 'I can maybe spare a few minutes after the gymkhana'.

Niarnotfar..
I work in the West end,Kelvingrove area, always plenty around this area, student land. watch out a few run down places...
BT

Mail back to you Blantyretim. Scant information I'm afraid.

Possilbhoy 11.25

Your `Leaked Daily Record Memo' on Ranger's Transfer Activity provided much amusement.

Excellent read with more than a little truth attached to it one would suggest.

madmitch

Whatever you are on, I will be happy if you can get me some.

There is no contradiction in terms whatsoever in the phrase you quote. By definition, every recession and depression ever recorded started at the top of a cycle; and it is normal for their onset to be much sharper than the renewal of growth that eventually follows. Hopefully that is clearer to you now.

As to the rest, by all means regard it as 'lightweight nonsense'. I'm surprised, though, that you reject my theses that DM has been the victim of a 'monster global slump' rather than the architect of his own downfall.

This does at least make your viewpoint consistent; it would be *really* silly to exculpate Brown while holding Murray responsible for their respective messes. So you avoid contradicting yourself, at the small cost of believing DM has just been unlucky.

I don't buy into your worldview, but I can appreciate why it is attractive; life must be so much easier when you don't need to blame the actual present-day people in power for what goes wrong, only they 'system', or representative bogeyman figures like 'bankers', or historical political figures (stretching back to 1924!) with whose politics you happen to disagree.

Good Stuff Paul/Gordon.

Team Token will be there, but as to whether we can repeat our 5's success or not, time will only tell.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Guys,

Just got back in – and there is great interest in the quiz. I’ve sent a Registration Form to everyone who previously asked for details and everyone on the CQN mailing list that Pablo has been keeping up to date. Anyone else can get a form by emailing the address in the main article (cqnquiz@gmail.com)

To answer a few specific questions:

The quiz will be mainly general knowledge, although there will be some Celtic questions mixed in.

We are asking for teams of four. It seems there are a few people looking to form, or to join, a team, so get in contact with each other on the blog or directly!

The 7pm start is because we need to be out at 10:30pm. It was difficult to get a venue at all on a Saturday, and I managed to get this one for free!

We chose Glasgow because many of us will be in town for the game that day anyway. Other quiz nights in different venues could well be possible in the future …

And Arthur Daly will not be attending ...

NiarNotFar,

If you're looking for a flat, try Lets B Wise, a very good letting agency (217 Paisley Road West - 0141 427 2000)

possilbhoy @11.45 -

fantastic post - but surely under point 18 "if Celtic sign anyone previously linked with rangers" reference must be made to celtic "HIJACK" of the deal?

Glenn Roeder has been sacked as boss of Norwich, they have lost 6 out of 8 games.
Is John Kennedy still playing or is he injured, is he also due back this month?

BT

blantyretim

I think JFK was injured and returned to Celtic in December.

cheers Mort...

blantyretim,
Re JFK, he arrived back just after he was injured.
Think his deal was ending at Xmas so came back a few weeks early due to injury.

He was quoted last week saying he'll fight for his place at PH but I think he'll end up back out on-loan before to long.

/Bishop B

Would any 2 people be willing to join me and my fiancee in a team at the Quiz? You can email me at martceltic@hotmail.com.

NiarNotFar, I hear there may be a few vacant properties in and aroud the Milngavie area in the next couple of weeks. Oh yeah, also one in Tarbolton as well ;o)

Apologies for making lite of your situation but just couldn't help myself.

GordonJ, Can you not make it Celtic General Knowledge - that way w can out the Media House posters such as... actually I refuse to provide more oxygen for the flames but you know who I mean.

Mountainbhoy, BigJock67, you fancy putting together a team for the quiz night?

Hail Hail

I wouyld like to make three comments if I may.

Firstly:

That Boyhdell fellow must be laughing up his cuff at the debate over Henrick Larsson. It is one of the most nonsensical debates I have came across, since I first happened upon this great site. I repeat this is completely nonsensical!!

Secondly:

Martin 42 to say that Kenny Dalglish is not a Celtic legend,(a term too loosely bandied about), is just very very silly indeed!! Am I allowed to say that Paul?

Thirdly:

Dennis 47 Jan 13 7:29pm. If you think there can ever be any mitigating circumstances surrounding two men beating another unconscious,(and who it is said also swallowed his tongue as a result of this despicable act), and hospitalising him, then you are someone who I would not wish to be associated with.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/14/stephen-appiah-tottenham-hotspur

So, if he fails the trial (not good enough for a wee team in the EPL relegation zone)would we still want him? We could bring back Craig Beattie to be the resident injured player for a fraction of the wages. On trial at Tottenham but the case for Appiah at Celtic remains not proven

BBC Scotland at their usual mischief making best. Headline about the Lennon assault trial is 'Court hears Lennon finger claim'. I suppose 'Court hears Lennon kicked unconscious claim' was too straightforward ? There's also something decidedly dodgy about two of the witnesses. Both standing together, one sees Neil push one of the assailants, the other doesn't. We also have a couple of medical students who hear Neil being called a Fenian B and yet the two other witnesses didn't hear the word Fenian. hmmmm

Someones telling porkies.

Modern medical students is rubbish.

They should have been in their rooms studying for their exams, in case many years later a medical question comes up in a quiz and they are stumped.

Henriks Sombrero, alas, old Mother Hubbard went to the cupboard and found no facilities for honouring a cheque.

Sugar Daddies do not exist, especially in Govan.

Aldo, yo!

Jim Morrision, hey!

CelticSephiroth, busy today, what was your question?

Sheany, deleted, language.

Ragnarhairybreeks, Martin42 has been known to say the odd silly thing about Kenny Dalglish....

dbbia

has your wee ayrshire student not come back to you?

Blantyretim- nay, her transformation is complete and I've got a new lassie in,from Derry.

The expression "win or bust" is much overused. However, with regard to the SPL title and the plucky cash-strappeds, it seems as if it could not be more appropriate. It may even end up "win and bust" though I would obviously not want to see that happen (the firsgt bit, I mean).

BT
coorslad and vmhan will be very interested about your new lassie then...
Is it her from girls aloud?

Haraldina's plaything

Is the new one from Derry or Londonderry? Important when determining how long the transformation takes. Are these people just cheap labour for you....or do you get them for absolutely nothing?

ragnarhairy...,
I think your getting your martins mixed up, it was martin47 who made the dalglish comment.

the treble will have to do

hail hail

Ed - Thanks for your reply, that made me chuckle.

Paul - Apologies on the language, it was a copy and paste job.

I'll post again and sort out that word if it is ok to do this?

Martin47 (last post on previous thread),

I know myself from other encounters I've had with people, however fleeting, that you can take an impression of them, which in your eyes is 100% "correct" but you find out later is not quite a true reflection of them.

It's hard to take on board other views of someone that are counter to your own, esp. when you have had a "bad" experience.

As I mentioned, Kenny is my all-time footballing hero, so I will always see the good side. Who knows, maybe you will meet him another time and he will happily sign an autograph, or then again....

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/fergie-got-corner-idea-42-years-ago-1600556.html

The above connection gives Alex Ferguson's explanation on the recent Utd "corner controversy".

Celtic related in that this Celtic supporter hates Phil Collins and wants all Celtic supporters to do likewise....

Just in case anybody was actually thinking about revising their opinion about this tosspot, especially in a non ironic way.(see yesterday's Guardian article by hun Alan "Oasis" McGee). Awful lyrics, awful tune that'll get stuck in your head until you have to find a Nolan Sisters song to wash it away.....like using heroin to get you off methadone.

Easy lover
Shell get a hold on you believe it
Like no other
Before you know it youll be on your knees
Shes an easy lover
Shell take your heart but you wont feel it
Shes like no other
And Im just trying to make you see

Shes the kind of girl you dream of
Dream of keeping hold of
Youd better forget it
Youll never get it
She will play around and leave you
Leave you and deceive you
Better forget it
Oh youll regret it

No youll never change her, so leave it, leave it
Get out quick cos seeing is believing
Its the only way
Youll ever know

Easy lover
Shell get a hold on you believe it
Like no other
Before you know it youll be on your knees
Shes an easy lover
Shell take your heart but you wont feel it
Shes like no other
And Im just trying to make you see

Youre the one that wants to hold her
Hold her and control her
Youd better forget it
Youll never get it
For shell say theres no other
Till she finds another
Better forget it
Oh youll regret it

And dont try to change her, just leave it, leave it
Youre not the only one, ooh seeing is believing
Its the only way
Youll ever know, oh

No dont try to change her, just leave it, leave it
Youre not the only one, ooh seeing is believing
Its the only way
Youll ever know, oh

Shes an easy lover (shes a easy lover)
Shell get a hold on you believe it (get a hold on you)
(shes) like no other
Before you know it youll be on your knees (youll be down on your knees)
Shes an easy lover
Shell take your heart but you wont feel it (you wont feel it)
Shes like no other
And Im just trying to make you see (trying to make you see)

NeilR

Tis a pity that those in a position of leadership chose the herd instinct and ignored the maxim of living within one's means.

Adherence to the latter is what would have made them true leaders, standing on and for principles and values that reflect reality.

A case of greed not being good?

Cadizzy

You should never let the drummer sing.

Levon Helm is an exception ( and I'll give Don Henley a pass) but..

Ringo, Phil Collins, Dave Grohl and, worst of all, Karen Carpenter

setting free the bears

animal from the muppets!

Auldheid,
look what happened to robin cook.

On the big depression wouldnt the G14 and WBO have quite a bit of responsibility in the state of play across the globe, after all who do Govts go to to borrow beyond their means.

the treble will have to do

hail hail

SFTB

The thing about Karen, though, is that she was never really a drummer and should never have been allowed to think she was a proper one.

She sang like an angel though.

kikinthenakas

O.K.

I'll admit Animal but Don Henley now loses his pass mark.

CQN quiz night papers have fallen into my lap

Sneak preview

1. Explain 'Ammortisation' in 20 words or less.
2. ...

SFTB,
what about him out the monkeys

the treble will have to do

hail hail

Canamalar

Check Google news for reports of the one and only President Lula of Brazil.

He said on Monday that when there was a crisis in Latin America, the high-ups at the International Monetary Fund and World Bank had all the answers and were never off the phone telling governments there exactly what they had to do.

Lula asked: "How come they've got no answers now that the crisis is with the rich countries?"

Comment on FF from the person who displayed the Murray Out banner at the game last night.

SwanseaBhoy

The reason I displayed the banner last night!

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David Murray has run our club into the ground IMO (I know some people may not agree and thats there opinion and I accept that). My frustration last week with Murray saying we NEED to sell one of our most important players had me nearly shaking with rage. I felt I had to do something so I did. I had the banner made and thought last night would be a good time to display it. It gave me piece of mind, that if our club are forced to sell our best players and the club does go out of buisness (the latter wont happen IMO) that at least I can say I tried to do my best to save them/it.

One man challenged me last night at the start of the game. Saying stuff like:
"Murray saved us from going out of buisness" "He won us NIAR" "He made the club what it is today". The latter I agree with, he has made us the laughing stock of Scottish football (proved last night with the St Johnston chanting). This was the only person who did challenge me which, I thought, was surprising.

I thought I would share why I had the banner made because I have been called a twat on previous threads and thought that peope may like to know why I done it.

Bri_rtid may have different reasons why he helped me fly it but you will have to talk to him about that.

WATP

Edit: Would like to thank the person two rows from the back who argued with the person who disagreed with the banner.

setting free the bears

he wont argue with animal!

Celtic First

I rarely disagree with you but I would have preferred her drumming.

I prefer listening to wee Paul Williams singing her songs because I felt she was soul less and uninvolved.

Her version of Jambalaya is a crime against music and, possibly, humanity.

Marvin Gaye's career at Motown began as a drummer on sessions. He could sing a bit.

Also.....a drummer who doesn't even sing should never have his own group or be a solo artist (Dave Clarke 5 and Cozy Powell take note).

My favourite drummer was not real (unlike animal) but he was called after animal. Billy "The animal" Mooney of the Commitments....my brother's name (not the animal bit obviously..well, not obviously)

canamalar

Mickey Dolenz?

He was a child actor (like Phil Collins) who joined the world's first boy band. Only Mike Nesmith was a musician. The talent with the Monkees was in using good songwriters like John Stewart and Neil Diamond.

StevieNoBread on January 14, 2009 3:59 PM

Explain it? I cannae spell it!

Ahm no gaun.

SFTB,

I thought I was the only person on Earth who felt like that about Karen Carpenter. Utterly soulless. Hate her voice and as you say Jambalaya......people have been jailed for less.

canamalar on January 14, 2009 3:56 PM

Re Robin Cook.
I wonder what role he would be playing now had he not died?

DBBIA

O.K.

We'll reduce the drummers shouldn't sing rule from a Universal Law to just a helpful generalisation.

You'd never see a real vocalist, like Solomon Burke, pick up a drumstick.

Well, unless it was made of fried chicken.

How do you 'nearly shake with rage'?

bambi

I fear we are in a small minority but, honestly, I don't get her at all. It's as if you ask the singer to hit all the right notes but try to remove every ounce of emotion behind the lyrics. Some people say that, with a great singer, they could sing the telephone book. With Karen Carpenter, I feel it would go unnoticed.

grumpy old man csc

Anyone got any info on the Reserve Game Celtic V Sunderland which was suppose to be played today?

I have checked ours and Sunderland's official sites but nothing, mind you getting reserve and youth info from these sites is like pulling teeth!

Anyone know if the match took place? and what the score was? Marc was meant to be playing as well as debut's for the new bhoy's Niall and Milan.

Any info would be appreciated.

Off out for a meal and the pics now with her indoors after all (dare I say it) it's orange wednesday! 2 for 1

Marvin Gaye - ya bass!

whatsgoingonsonsofdonegalcelticsupportersclub

Bambi, there are very many people who do not like Karen Carpenter's singing. Utterly soulless is absolutely right. I'd rather hear Gudby to Jane (spelling???) than Goodbye to Love..and what was all that interplanetary stuff?

Re Marvin Gaye. Berry Gordy allegedly said to him one day "Listen, Marv. I heard you singing the other day and you were really good... so I have no option but to ask you to turn in your drumsticks." I bet nobody ever said that to Karen!

Auldheid, too true, I never did 'get' the idea of spending one's way to prosperity, either as an individual or a nation.

Politicians are rarely leaders; it is the people who create wealth, rather than those who spend, redistribute or destroy it, who are society's real leaders. 'Do the least damage possible' is, unfortunately, not yet regarded as a reliable vote-winning election slogan - maybe some day.

"A case of greed not being good? 'Greed is good' was a funny line used to parody the deeply selfish mind-set of a small but highly-visible group of people; but it was no more than that. Self-interest is the natural instinct of every living thing and one of the main drivers of economic and social progress. Greed is self-interest pursued to the exclusion of other values or objectives, and like anything taken to excess, is usually bad.

I noticed a quality comment from Andrew Smith in the Scotsman web-chat referred to earlier in this thread. "Phone-ins.... have given the crazed a platform. And that is just the journalists who man them."

TMC - Must have been a wee quiver....

TMC- clearly once you've gone past meltdown, and rhabdomyolysis prevents any muscular activity at all.

Sheany, no probs.

StevieNoBread, I’m definitely going to the quiz now.

SFTB, Cadizzy,

In my opinion she didn't play the drums enough!! I can honestly say I've never met anyone who feels like I do about that voice. I usually get strange looks when I hear her and tell anyone she has a terrible voice. It's almost as if it's outlawed.

Henrik's Sombrero

"Must have been a wee quiver..."

that'll be why they sing "Wee arra peepil"

I have been contemplating this post for the past 24 hours , as I know there are some who would think it mischievous .

However , the last time I dined in The Ubiquitous Chip restaurant was some 10 months ago (The restaurant note , not the bar).

Imagine my surprise when Rev Ian Paisley walked in with three others to sit down at the adjacent table . I thought very little about this except that of all the restaurants in Glasgow to choose , he selected "The Chip".

Of course the Ubiquitous Chip has been in the news again this week . I am sure there is no connection between these 2 events but you never know ...............?

OliverStoneCSC

gourock bhoy - my better half told me she was in there some years ago and the 'honourable' mr Paisley was at the table next to her. Must be a favourite of his..

Gourockbhoy, was he a bit sullen and standoffish (like Henrik!) when you asked him for his autograph?

Re the coincidence....maybe it's just a place that Norn Irish folk like. Maybe Neil recommended it to him.

SFTB and Bambi

You just better hope my mum doesn't log on here or you pair will be
having your mouths washed out with soap.

Personally I loved the Carpenters only because as a 7 or 8 year old every birthday and Christmas was sorted for a present for my mum from me and my siblings.

Dave Grohl - that boy can sing a bit, like an Octopus behind the kit too....

Oh and Prince was originally a drummer but I think only because he used to feel he could play any instrument better than anyone else (and he was probably right).

cta!

Serenity

They were talking about upcoming reserve matches on The Daily Huddle last night and had footage of Milan and Niall's debuts in a win against Motherwell.

There will probably be some mention of this game on the Daily huddle tonight (or tomorrow).

battered bunnet, thanks for the info mate,i got a call from the T.O. this morning saying and i quote "the powers that be over the road"have agreed to seeing the certificates again even though they seen and signed my form saying so, if i do this and sign a sheet saying it's for who i say it's for they will allow entry for the rest of the season,very big of them across the road.

CarpentersQuickNews is in meltdown over the disrespect being shown to wee Kazza.

After the treatment Henrik got yesteday I'm now worried that our new leftback might have to be able to sing and/or play the drums as well.

Paul McCartney played drums on either McCartney or Ram...also on the Ballad of John and Yoko so therefore.....not sure what my point is.

Will we have to bring our birth certificates with us to get into the quiz?

DBBIA raises a very interesting point.

Have any of the anti-Karen Carpenter heretics ever been seen in the same room as an imposter from Media House?

Haraldina's plaything said

"I'm now worried that our new leftback might have to be able to sing and/or play the drums as well."

Are we really getting a new left back???

Celtic_First

I have! I've been in the same room as Setting Free the Bears! HE'S YOUR MEDIA HOUSE MOLE!

jc2

It's a wee bit scary when you get a blog warning from someone with the initials jc.

philvisreturns

Sorry, I missed your 1.34 post earlier. Be careful now, you're talking a lot of sense; doing that got Galileo into a heap of trouble, and Giordano Bruno burnt at the stake.

eppursimuovecsc

Cadizzy

I have met Jack Irvine's wife but that is as far as it goes.

Talking about moles (see if anyone gets that connection?), I missed Robert Wyatt out of the list of singing drummers.

Cadizzy

Glad we got that cleared up.

gourockbhoy,

I was in the Ubiquitous Chip one year on holiday (circa '94), absolutely crap meal.

gsu

Ah but Wyatt's different! He is obviously no longer a drummer and his singing career is very un Soft Machine. He also sang "I'm a believer" better than Mickey Dolenz though as we know Dolenz wasn't a drummer so I don't know what my point is.

The quiz night in the Winchester club.... Can you get shots in there....

Ok I'll get my coat

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend..Auld.

Pal.. Ah canny let ye Die..no knowing this...

Look,the Present Economic Depression, that the whole World is going thru...richt noo.. at this very time.

Is NAEBOADY'S Fault,in Particular!

Ah will repeat, fur Naething... ither than Effect!

It is Nae single Person's or Governments or Bankers or Shoart Sellers or Long Sellers, fault.

It is the Nature o' Man's... FAULT...Entirely, Ineluctably and Unquestionably!

Man, is a Greedy, Egotistical Son of a Lady Dog!

That is how Godo..and for the Non Believers Among us, I apologise for even bringing HIM UP..

Nevahtheless, Godo..in his Wisdom, decided tae mak awe o' HIS Creatures, with that Built in,"Flaw"(?)(Awe o'his Creatures?..ed)(Awe o' them.. except, mebbe... Penquins, Gold Fish and DUGS!)

Personally, I agree wi' Godo.. ( Ye ayeways, dae.. d'ain't ye?..ed)( Absobloomingutely.. there ur nae flies on me..Ah nevah miss a chance tae build up.. Brownie Points~)

And tae Continue..here is the Noos that wull NO shake ye up... fur ye should have seen it coming..

When the World Recovers.. and it WULL.. from the consequences of it's Past EIGHT YEARS of Over Indulgence and Greed..

It wull waste nae Time.. In Cranking up the Greed Machine Wance Mair!

Surprised?

Ye shouldnae be, if ye hid bin peying ATTENSHUN tae whit Ah hiv jist done Tole, ye!

Fur want o' anither Reason.. this Calamity, that we ur going thru, until awe the over indulgences and greed o the Past, is CLEANSED FRAE THE SYSTEM...is called ..

THE BUSINESS CYCLE..It is oor Reward fur Practicing .. Capitalism.. GODO LUV IT!

And as the Business Gets Bettah and Bettah and Bettah..at Daein' it's...well.. Business!... Thru oot the World..

The Booms Get Biggah and the Corresponding Withdrawls get mair Severe.. But.. No in Succession! .. there is a Lull in the severity quotient, Between Cycles.. Ah hivna goat the time nor the inclination tae gie ye chapter and verse aboot.. awe o' the Twists and Turns of the World's Economy, fur it wid tak a Book tae explain everything.

Howevahhhhhhhhh... ( Ah wis expectin THAT, THOUGH!..ed)( AH mak is a POINT .. Nevah,Evah.. tae .. DIS A POINT!)

Ye kin Expect anither, Downer.. right oan the Button..RIGHT at that Point in Time, when the World is at the Toap of it's Next Economic UPTURN.. Starting...circa..

2018 A.D.

It wullnae be a severe as the Present DOWNTURN.. but, it wull HOIT.

So..

That's aboot it.

Kojo.
yer pal... who likes everything aboot YOU.. ye ur a kindred. SOUL..Aye! Believe it or No.. EVERYBOADY HIS WAN O' THEM.. WHETHER THEY BELIEVE THAT.. OR NO!

When the World shakes aff the effects of its Past EIGHT YEARS O'

SFTB

Far be it from me to make allegations on the net, but you might be in the right area with that guess. Two Bats as he's known...

And I'm not as flexible as I used to be after Saturday.....

Less of the plaything. Only the other day we were going round Tesco's in Carlisle. She sees the contents of my trolley and says'More Toilet Duck? I think you're drinking the bloody stuff'

And here was me thinking it was lack of lavatorial cleanliness that could cause your woman to catched that train and gone...

Apologies, Apology Time!

My Ultimate Posting was improperly addressed..

It is Fur .. AULDHEID, ma Mucker.

Sorry aboot that.

"Ready, when You are, C.B.!"

Kojo.

They think they deserve better !

Rangers supporters launch protest campaign


by Thomas Jordan

RANGERS fans groups today launched a "We Deserve Better" campaign to try and pile the pressure on the club's board.

Chairman Sir David Murray's decision to sell off one of his leading players this month to balance the books has been met with a furious reaction from some Gers fans - who held a banner during last night's win over St Johnstone asking him to quit the club.

The agreed sale of striker Kris Boyd to Birmingham City in a £3.8m deal was the final straw for many and various groups such as the Rangers Supporters Trust and the Blue Order have now issued a statement urging supporters clubs and fans to unite and let the club know their feelings.

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Trust chief David Edgar said today: "This isn't a campaign to get the chairman out or anything like that.

"We know he is in a situation where he hasn't been able to find a buyer for the club but we want to know what direction the club is moving in and we're looking for improvements."

The statement lists areas in which he says supporters are concerned with and want explanations and they are as follows;

- Only 2 league titles in 8 seasons

- Only 2 cups won in last 3 full seasons

- Losing to the worst European opponents faced since Valletta in 1983

- A state of the art training facility, yet no advancements in technique or set plays

- No discernible strategic vision, either on or off the pitch

- No long-term transfer or team-building plan

- Only two youth players (McGregor and Hutton) of genuine quality produced in the last decade

- Selling first team players to cover losses previously made on fringe players

- Consistent failure to move fringe players on for reasonable transfer fees

- Lucrative pay-offs for failed players - Failure to profit from our most lucrative ever season

- Failure to engage with or interact with the support in any meaningful way

- Treating Rangers fans with disdain as customers instead of valuing and working with them as supporters and part of the Rangers family

- Inability to either attract inward investment, or to convince fans to invest in any meaningful way

- Reduction in the status of our club from leading football force in the land, to almost social pariah status through a failure to challenge those seeking to link Rangers with sectarianism

- A PR operation which only acts when senior club figures are personally criticised and all too often fails to defend the Rangers support

- Fan morale lower than at any time in the past 24 years

DBBIA

Are you still looking for a replacement for Cadizzy on the quiz night?

I cannot claim to have any area of specialist knowledge but I usually know the answers to the questions the contestants on Mastermind pass on. Unfortunately, I do not know many of the answers to the questions they get right.

Who are these pesky people "seeking to link Rangers with sectarianism"?

Some folk, honestly.

Inkybhoy

Two Bats eh?

An intriguing moniker?

You could make up a lot with that.

And I probably will.

Here's hoping you're walking without bandy legs sometimes soon :-)

Name one thing they have done in the past few years that would enable anyone, and I mean anyone, to "link Rangers with sectarianism".

quiz in the winchester club..last time i was in there i got my pockets rifled

Cadizzy
`...I don`t know what my point is.` Why have you suddenly opted for stating what has always been incredibly obvious?

Are you up for the Quiz?

SFTB- Excellent, a leftback at last!

I think we are now lining up as Jinkyredstar/Subterranean/SFTB and DBBIA.

No team name as yet.

I expect Ian K. Paisley likes the Chip because it's handy for when he's been to BBCScotland to rally the troops.

Henriks Sombrero

The words link Rangers and Sectarianism seem almost too ridiculous to be true. They are way past that stage, and everyone knows it.

They reacted slowly to their financial woes, and they are reacting slowly to their sectarian woes.

So, apart from:

- A first-team player writing FTP under his autograph for a fan
- Fans making formal complaints because an opposing player made the sign of the cross
- Taking eggs benedict off the menu at the Brox
- Being sanctioned by UEFA for singing anti-Catholic songs
- Being the subject of complaints from politicians across the continent for telling the children of Irish Catholic immigrants to go home

Name one thing Rangers have done that merits linking them with sectarianism.

If I could choose a CQN er to whom I could give my quiz place, it would be SFTB. I do know that Oldtim67 had cast a glance his way but it looks like he has yet to make an offer.

My advice to Haraldina's caddy is to do the Bill McMurdo trick again (like when you got me to betray Greenock) and sign him up now. I wouldn't bother parading him in an Oldtim67 jersey beforehand. I think that might cause a stushie.

Celtic_First

Charging £16.90 for certain products.

Celtic First
Be fair. Apart from those,what have they ever done that could be called sectarian?

Kojo

You make capitalsm sound like a drug - are you (and I think you are) an advocate of laisez-faire economics and, if so, do you forsee a similar outcome for the world economy to that of a heroin addict?

Or will there always be governments to medicate the patient out of the danger zone?

On encouragement/heckling:

Liked the discussion on this yesterday, but I would argue that footballers are NOT entertainers in th manner of stand-up comics (yeah, yeah, I know, I know, but I won't even say it). Rather, they are more akin to soldiers fighting in the fog of battle (bear with me here).

Tolstoy believed that battles were won and lost depending on the individual and collective morale of the soldiers. Despite the best-laid plans, the overwhelming force of chaos intrinsic to war sparks a natural reaction leading to disorder. When advancing, a soldier is cut off from the rest of his regiment and must decide whether to continue forward or retreat. Whether he does this or not depends on his overall confidence in his fellow combatants. If his morale is high, he - and others like him - will continue forward with the likely outcome being that the battle will be won. If he has no faith in his commanders and less in his own courage, then he will panic and flee.

I think it's the same in a football match. You can practise set-plays till the cows come home, but if you are on the field of play, you or one of your team mates make an error, and the crowd begins to wail and gnash its teeth (or throw their pies), your confidence falls and you are panicked into making a series of further errors. If, however, the crowd believes in the team and their powers of recovery and wills them forward with POSITIVE energy (think April 16, 9.25pm) then the whole team is galvanised and their belief in their own individual and colective abilities is strengthened.

That is why I (me, personally - don't want to trample on anyone's right to free speech) NEVER decry the team during a match, and do my best to ENCOURAGE.

Hotsmokedsalmon said
"Cadizzy
`...I don`t know what my point is.` Why have you suddenly opted for stating what has always been incredibly obvious?"

DBBIA, at the quiz I want you to terminate him with extreme prejudice (a bit like sectarianism but more general)

DBBIA

Is Subterannean the nearest thing we have to a youth policy?

Let's hope that popular music from the last 10 to 15 years does not feature.

Up_over_goal
I am with you on that all the way (well the football part anyway!). I firmly believe that a crowd which believes can affect the performance of a team tremendously.

This blog is really going to some strange places this afternoon. I mean, first we have the "ammortisation" comment - Stevie, if there is a question in the quiz it will be spelled correctly at least!

Then we have the anti Karen Carpenter comments. I just love her voice. OK, she wasn't quite as good as Janis but then who was? And she was never a drummer, just a shy girl who hid behind the drums to try to overcome the anxiety that eventually killed her.

Karen sings ...

Now, isn't that a great voice?

Gordon_J

..but can she play left back?

Where's eldiegobhoy when you really need the left back question asked?

Gordon J
`...but who was?` you ask. The only female singer, or maybe any singer, of whom that question could be asked with confidence that there would not be an answer is/was Maria Callas.
Right , off to the gym. Just like Minty, I am hoping to be rid of a few ugly pounds(lbs , obviosly).

Sorry about the spelling of `obviously`...couldn`t bring myself to use `iou` in a word when talking of Minty

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Up And Over Goal.

Yes.. I am an aficionado of Laissez Faire Economics.

A wee bit mair Lazy than Fair,mebbe.

Howevah.. I am.

Your Analogy.. is a fine wan.. Ah nevah looked at it that wey, I suppose.. but..

Yes, Pal.. I agree wit ye.

In all o' yer Points.( Is that.. No, some kinda Record?...ed)( I believe it is!)

Wait a minute..Nae sae fast...

I do disagree oan the NAE Hecklin' bit... Verilee, Ah dae,dae~

Say, Pal.. if ye nevah,evah, hiv indulged in the Pleasures o'a wee or a Big.. Heckle.. then ye hiv missed oot, oan wan o life's maist Pleasurable, Pleasures!

So... next time ...when Georgie Bhoy.. Hesitates, Stumbles and fails to take advantage o' an open Goal..or.. Artur..takes a Tirraveeve..and.. well, dae Ah hiv tae paint a Pictur?

Then...

Remember, whit Ah jist said!

Kojo.yer pal, who likes yer style.

Anyone know if there is any truth in the SFA agreeing to allow Rangers to put price tags on their jerseys instead of numbers?

Henriks Sombrero, 4:51, the list of grievances posted to the Ibrox cathedral door (I assume, in true Rangers tradition) starts promisingly but ends up in a mess.

“Treating Rangers fans with disdain as customers” is simply untrue and counterproductive.

It’s about money, it’s all about money. They spent too much, in fact, they treated everyone like fans and no one like customers, which has gotten them into this mess.

“Treat me better” is a winy adolescent complaint that should never be heard from an adult who wants to be respected without reference to a clearly identified specific.

This pits fan against club at the very time the club is helpless to defend itself and unable to address any of the subjective claims contained therein without damaging the core objectives.

It is as though they have some green agent within the ranks dreaming this stuff up.

Neverbeten :-)

Important - re the Quiz

Guys, could you ensure that all cheques are made payable to "Celtic Quick News Fundraising"?

Thanks

Paul 67

David Edgar as Martin Luther?

Modern Splitters are rubbish.

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Gordon J

I second your choice.

Miss Carpenter has a lovely voice.

I like her, very much..

Howevahhhhhhhhhhh..

I still am Rocked a wee bit mair, wi the Dulcet Tones, o' Ma dear, dear..

Dinah..

Who, as everyboady who is anyboady... knows..

Thur is Naeboady... Finah~

Kojo.
yer pal..who likes ye a loat.

Gordon J

Where do I send the cheques to ensure there are no more Carpenters links posted?

She has a voice like a Martian who learned her English from the film Rain Man and who then digitalised it via a Moog Synthesizer to wring the last human traces from it:-)

BTW, I feel the same about Olivia Newton John ruining Bob Dylan.

How's about a

'You deserve what you get' banner for the Celtic v them game.

- Reduction in the status of our club from leading football force in the land, to almost social pariah status through a failure to challenge those seeking to link Rangers with sectarianism.

David Edgar - 99.9% of your support on a weekly basis make this task very very very easy. Brain dead moron.

Rangers Supporters Trust

GordonJ

Re getting Kojo's backing.

That's the kind of event that should lead to a revised opinion :-)

When Abraham Lincoln's horse got its hoof caught in the stirrup, he said:-

"Well if you're getting on, I think it's time for me to get aff"

Or words to that effect.

Setting free the bears,

Can't agree with Dave Grohl. I like his voice. Listen to the Live Skin and Bones album.

I read once that during a recording session, the Beatles were having a right go at Ringo for continuing to mess up. He said something like "ay, ay, ay, calm down, I know I'm not the best drummer in the world" to which John Lennon relied "you're not even the best drummer in the Beatles"

Starryhope

Hotsmokedsalmon

Cheers - I am also with myself. Not that I am advocating hussars at Celtic Park.

Kojo - i most certainly have indulged in more than one verbal diatribe. It was always the TV, however, that bore the full brunt of my hairdryer approach. I have even gone so far as to sulk in the bathroom (in the faint hope that in so doing the football gods might transform the dismal scoreline - that one never seems to work, does it?)

I think there is a difference between what is only a natural human reaction to a player making a humdinger of a mistake and constantly berating a player as he makes his way up and down your side of the pitch. Such criticism can only result in a retreat of 1812 proportions.

More appropriately

a banner from the Jungle Bhoys or the green brigade with a picture of JocK Stein saying 'I deserve better' and an arrow pointing to the orcs.

Starryhope, that event nearly caused Ringo to leave the group. He sulked for a wee while and then went back to being a millionaire pop star

Cadizzy,

You've got to admit it was a class put-down.

Starryhope

A wee bit harsh though since he probably was the best drummer in the Beatles

I think that WGS' comments that the club will not make any big money signings is an interesting one. I think we all know, and WGS has said this, that if any good player becomes available at the right price, the club is in the position to capitalise.

Having said that, getting a few Sammi type loans seems a very sensible policy.

If we need to wait untill the summer for Stilic, Lewandowski, Fletcher, Janko, Huszti et al, then so be it.

sftb,

Think we will need to agree to disagree on this one!

Starryhope

The Dave Grohl comment betrays my age. I tell my teenage boys that the guy with the hairy jumper and galactic angst that used to do the vocals before he got in the way of a bullet, had more personality than Grohl.

I wouldn't read too much into my views. Two posters on here have recently accused me of talking sense and I'm trying hard to rectify that impression.

Hey Karen Carpenter fans

Me and whoo yeah come on!! karen were awlright awlright uhhu jammin last night whoo yeah come on!!! with hendrix on guitar and whoo yeah come on!!! karen on agggghhhhhhhh come on!!! me on vocals of whoo yeah course awlright whoo i am the lizard king and whoo come on!! course whoo she still yeah uhhu looks whoo a uhhu little whoo yeah skinny whoo for my awlright awlright liking man!!! awwww yeah COME ON!!!!

Setting free the bears,

I can't argue with you. Got to agree that Curt was quite a front man. And what a noise they made - especially for a 3 piece! Sheer Quality.
I'm off to look out my old mohair jumper.

Starryhope

setting free the bears

That sounds like a sensible thing to do :-)

Settingfree,

What do you mean she had a voice like Martin?

I'll have you know "Big Pav" begged me to sing a duet with him.

See the next time we are in BBs, I'll torture the assembled masses with a chorus of Nessum Dorma,and guess what, nobody will fall asleep.

Cheers,

Martin.

Want a laugh....stick on Radio Snyde.

Its angry Bear time.....

Martin42

Eh ben.... ne andro lontano!

Paul

Agree completely - you always fear they could somehow rally round the club and come up with a worryingly constructive proposal. Not this crowd! They provide daily comedy gold!

"It is as though they have some green agent within the ranks dreaming this stuff up"

It's as though my guilty hopes have entered the minds of some Rangers fans (filtered through Jim Morrison), fomented for 1690 minutes, and come out just as I planned!

NeilR,

Santa Lucia to you too my good friend,

Martin.

Sorry to make a comment off peg

Fight on Dafty radio

RST we deserve better campaign

v

rankers assembly who simply have no idea

Marquisofqueensbury csc

The Martian

cheques to

bournesouprecipe@gmail.com

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,daer,friend.. Up and over Goal

Whoa, Nellie!

I believe that we have here.. a break down in YOUR interpretation my willingist.. Nay.. Encouragement... tae Heckle, Catcall.. Hiss and Boo an Individual.. in this case a Soccer Player..although,my encouragement does not refer to that Occupation Exclusively.

I am all for letting one's feeling be known in a Big way and getting one's point across in the most clear and transparent manner.that one can.

I am not a Shilly or a Shallower, no SireeBoab.

I have nevah,evah,advocated or even mentioned.. the constant Disparagement and Booing and Hissing and so on, by a fan of an individual Performer throughout the rest of the game or Performance...ONCE THE INCIDENT, that prompted my Outburst of Disapproval..Is OVER!

Na....

When I am speaking of my Wont to Make my Feelings known to the Performer...

I am speaking only of the Exact time of the Incident that Prompted my Outburst.

Once the cause of my Disapprovel is Past..

I become Becalmed, one more.

Until, of course... another incident by the same or anither Individual Performer, earns the Lash of My Tongue.. and Feels the Audible Results of my Ire... by doing something that does not quite meet my approval.

To me.. .I am behaving is a completely Natural Manner.

This stuff is No Rocket Science.

Jist like a Baby.. if She/He, disnae like something ye are daeing or No daeing tae Her/His Satisfaction or No Satisfaction..

Then...

The Babe wull soon let Ye Know,pal.. It wull soon let ye Know!

Have I noo made masel.. Poifectly Clear oan this Subject?

Ah hope so.

Kojo.
yer pal.. who likes ye mair and mairer

Hello there, Leo here.

Like my fellow pop star, Jim Morrision (sp?), I'd like to say a few words about Karen Carpenter. I first met her when we were both doing Top of the Pops. She was sitting on her own doing nothing in particular since her brother,Richard, had gone to the canteen.I rather shyly approached her (mum had never really let me talk to girls) and introduced myself. "Hello there, Leo here", I said. "I really like the dresses you wear", I added."With those puffed sleeves and it buttoned up to the neck, you look a bit like I did when I started out. Obviously I added that I wore more make up and had a nice pointy hat but I felt we were kindred spirits. "Hey, wouldn't it be great to do a duet together of "When I need you on top of the world?"

Sadly, it never happened. Karen went back to the US and I spent the next 2 years trying to convince Lemmy to let me join Motorhead. (I still think I could have done a job for them). However, I regret to this day not pushing my luck with Karen almost as much as I regret working with blooming Adam Faith on that Roger Daltrey album. He was a real swine, God rest his soul.

Anyway, let's hope the Ranglers have to sell Kris Boyle and we Celtics go on to win the Premier Division League.

Hail hail hail

A wee bit unfortunate choice of words there on Clyde.

David Murray is doing a STERLING job for Rangers.

Kojo

Clear as a bell! Just make sure, if you're going to the Aberdeen game, to take pair of Size 10 nappies.

If Lee is playing, ask a friend to have a pacifier to hand.

Anyone see a civil war coming up at Mordor ?

A couple of strategic purchases ( and sales ??) could cement the GOD.

Happy Days

Help needed.

Have the Rearrangers been permanently rearranged yet ?

Great 'Moonbeams' sideswipe at the Dark Lord on BBC1

This Quiz night

can i bring my drums

TA

NAfos,

any more cement in the team and we could start rebuilding the stadium !

PaceCSC

david edgar is know been seen as a visionary
by the orc faithfull,the man who will lead the
Toxic Debtorcs to the promised land
Why is such airtime given to this bigoted and dangerous
individual,this guy is so right wing he makes hitler look like a liberal

words of wisdom from leader edgar

ST Calls For Dundee United Boycott
Monday, 12 May 2008
In recent days, Dundee United have now heaped embarrassment twice on themselves and Scottish football.

By supporting the fixture scheduling demanded by the cowardly hand of hidden forces that permeates Scottish football their anti-Rangers agenda was exposed. Now their disgraceful attack on one the most respected referees in our game appears to have reinforced their bitterness against our club.

Today's laughable 'complaint' shows all the recklessness of a Willo Flood passback.

The RST calls for Rangers to decline any ticket allocation for Tannadice next season and urges all Rangers supporters to back this course of action.

Let's see whether the loss of at least £250,000 income is easier to swallow than their anti-Rangers bile.

Patrick McGoohan RIP.

A true gent , I had the pleasure of having a few beers with him in Santa Monica about 15 years ago and he was a gem .

Namedropper CSC

Radio Scotland was fun tonight, with the rearangers assembly and the rearrangers trust opposing each other on 'what has to be done'..but agreeing that calls for Minty Moonbeams to go are unhelpful!!!

They really are in danger of being outed as Timposters.

At least when Celtic went through the boardroom upheaval, everybody could see what had to be done and who had to go etc.

The rearrangers would start a fight in an empty hoose.

Particularly liked the rearrangers trust guy talking about the 'human tsunami in Manchester'. Now I'm not sure, but when is a tsunami a good thing? Anybody?

I think it's great that Edgar is getting so much exposure and air time. Well, would any of us rather have a sane and rational human being putting forward the alternative to Murray?

NAFOS,

I´ll call Bono tonight and let him know the bad news ;-)

Did anyone else notice that the spelling of ALL the words on the ragers' fans banner at Perth was correct ?
Is there a spelling mistake in that last sentence ?

Awe Naw ,

Don't bother , I told him when he brought my tea in .

But the Dalai Lama might not know yet .

re: K.Carpenter/Olivia Neutron Bomb singing soulless.

Madonna doing (in) American Pie must be one of the greatest crimes against music.

I notice that the testimony of the two students which tends to bear out what Neil Lennon said originally, has been relegated to a distant second place behind that of Mr Dick.
The Evening Times did not mention it at all.

What's the link between real radio and RST? They seem to be media outlet of choice for Edgar and co

Lubo, probably Ewan Cameron (the Hearts fan) has got something to do with it

NeilR

Couple of outstanding points

1) Corporate governance and BQ
Your thoughts on the relationship between a company's chairman and CEO are all correct but only within the sheltered existence of a textbook / lecture hall.

As mentioned previously I find your viewpoint a bit to dry and rigid to reflect the working life of BQ at CP. You talk about the easily identifiable elements of corporate governance as if they were the only ones in play during his time at the club. Consequently you miss out the following -

1) 600lb gorilla in the corner -- DD the "Irish Raj"
2) MON, the tech specialist to give him a business title who seemed to call quite a few of the shots.

With these extra dimensions to the running of the club the text book goes out the window and it is all down to money, performance and personality just as it always is.

Regarding BQ sticking to the norms of setting the direction and keeping the board under control the public record shows otherwise - phonegate and the squabbling over EPL wage levels.

Consequently I think that the club was far from the business norms that you put forward when BQ was chairman.

What the future holds with JR in the big seat I don't know. Bringing PL back down to earth would be a good place to start.
However that is another debate for another day.

2) Next up your tirade against GB.

It was over the top in my opinion to the extent that it was far more pointed than anything I have said about BQ. As has been mentioned before we all have opinions but the content was over the top and I felt duty bound to reply with an alternative viewpoint.

My position on this has been re-inforced with some of your later comments on the need for economic orthodoxy in this time of financial distress. I find such talk of kitchen table economics / living within your means as simplistic to the point of being dangerous in these troubled time.

What is right for the individual can be wrong for society if enough people become involved. I do not want to see the 1930's played out all over again due to the the stampede to conserve cash no matter the consequences to society.

However I fear that the Herbert Hoover CSC on here is gaining members at a rapid rate. So much for the collectivist, progressive instincts of the support.

Regarding the current business cycle, the normal pattern has been hard to determine given the long period of growth and the stumbles along the way. My thoughts we have had the "US TV Show" of economic cycles, that is "Twin Peaks". One in 99 and the other in the first half of 2006. The national debt did not grow by 5% of GDP in either of those years, consequently you may want to re-visit that particular idea.

Finally on to my comments about our current financial strength and where it came from - my thoughts are three years of CL group stage participation.

First up do you agree with our current financial strength?
The only alternative for me was the last years of FMcC, however we did not have a training ground so the figures do lie.

If you agree that this is correct the question then has to be why now? What is so different from the MON years for example? That is where the three years CL money comes in.

Next up is how did we manage this feat which eluded even MON.

1) SPL winners 2005/06 = Eck was found out big time and the Flats implosion was nicely timed.
2) SPL winners 2006/07 + good game in Moscow = Again the TFOD played their part with the PLG mutiny. Add in PH's goal and we scraped in by the width of AB's glove.
3) SPL winners 2007/08 = Seven game emotion driven recovery in the face of TFOD collapse and a horrible Dec.

The question here is this the best three years of football the club has played in the past 15 years?
Answer = No.
Is it the best level of talent the club has had in any three year period?
Answer = No.
Is this the happiest the support has been over a three year period?
Answer = No.

Consequently this is why I say that we are poorly run.
We have spent lots but delivered little.
The wage level is on the rise with no attendant increase in quality.
I fear we are looking at a Black Sunday level of performance especially as the defence offers hope to the whole SPL.

We are a poorly run club that have allowed this scenario to develop.
Something has to give.

Kojo

Indeed

There is the human perspective that forms the world,which is much as you described, lets call it The World. And then there is Reality, lets call it that.

What we are witnessing now (and will again)is When World's Collide (I'll bet you remember that movie.)

As you say its no one fault, its just the way thing are.

There are a set of values/principles based on Reality and a set based on The World. We as a species appear to prefer The World to Reality, short termism (or Time) to Eternity.

But that is how we got into The World in the first place, although I'm not sure if we chose to go, stumbled through a wardrobe or were pushed.

I was just musing that Scots in power with their reputation for economics and indeed prudence were no more impervious to the temptations of the World than any others.

Perhaps we, as a species including Scots, should place more emphasis on the prudence/wisdom than the economics?

I'm not holding my breathe, I make my own choices whilst others make theirs.

Auldheid

Do not want to turn this into a love in but I really enjoy your musings and how you express them.

Celtic star Lennon 'assaulted over insults'

By Sam Reeves, PA
Wednesday, 14 January 2009

Former Celtic captain Neil Lennon was subjected to a violent assault after getting into an argument with two men who apparently insulted his team's performance, a court heard today.

Lennon, 37, a coach at the Glasgow club, was punched to the ground and then repeatedly kicked as he lay unconscious, a witness told the High Court in Glasgow.

The attack in the west end of the city came to an end only when a bar worker intervened, the court heard.

David Whitelaw, 47, and Jeffrey Carrigan, 43, deny carrying out the assault in the early hours of September 1.

Liam Cameron, 24, a bar worker, said the men apparently mocked the coach about his side's defeat that day to Old Firm rivals Rangers and insulted his ginger hair colour.

He told the court he believed the men addressed Mr Lennon, who was not in court today, first and that something was said about the football score.

"Neil Lennon's reaction was the finger."

The men also called Mr Lennon a "ginger c***", Mr Cameron added.

"Mr Lennon then said 'What did you call me?'," according to the bar worker.

After raising his middle finger at the pair, Mr Lennon followed them round a corner during the incident in a bar area.

Mr Cameron, who was smoking a cigarette outside after finishing work in nearby bar Jinty McGinty's, heard raised voices and went to see what was happening. He found Mr Lennon "face-to-face" with one of the men.

The men involved in the attack were referred to as number one and number two in court.

Mr Cameron said: "As I walked round, I seen an argument between number one and Mr Lennon, and number two punched Mr Lennon on the side of the head.

"Neil Lennon went down backwards, his shoe came off. He hit his head on the cobbles when he went down."

This left him "completely, completely unconscious", the bar worker said.

He added: "He was kicked in the head a few times, I am not sure exactly how many times, more than three."

The bar worker said the attack came to an end when he intervened, pushing one of the men away from Mr Lennon as he lay passed out in the street.

PhilvisReturns

Flanders vs GB
Interesting programme.

First thoughts that it was a TB hatchet job to put GB's gas at a peep.

The main point for me is that it wasn't a considered and detailed piece offering a comprehensive view. It was a sensationalist piece looking for issues to tarnish GB. The description provided by the BBC just about says that itself.

Consequently the agenda wasn't that hidden.

A lot of what was said in the programme was stating the obvious but my issue with it was a lack of background and context. Why were people prepared to borrow / consume?

The dry, cashless, joyless economic expansion of the JM years after Black Wednesday must have had something to do with it.

However much the local issues with debt through under-funded consumption may have troubled people at the time, including myself if I'm honest, it was not this that brought about the Credit Crunch.

Small potatoes compared to the US.

In addition GB scaled back planned public spending growth after 2005/06 so he saw the issue as well as most.
However I do agree with him that investment in the public realm had to priority after the Thatcher/Major years.

Consequently file under "Broken Clock".
The BBC got it right twice in 11 years.

Nafos

ML2ers quiz night bound?

U

I really do spare for humanity !!!???

Next I suppose it'll be Mother Theresa helped a couple of people out in her day FFS !!!

pablophanque

Karenthevoiceofanangelcsc

"Despair" even and possibly even more than I do for my typing "skills" !!!

pablophanque

Ragnarhairy breeks,
I'd just like to make one point.
What I was saying was that this would be seen by many whose views on Neil Lennon have been tainted by bigotry as a sort of mitigation.
I think you knew that , but wanted to thunder indignantly to Neil's defence.
What Celtic fan, or indeed decent person, would consider a push to be mitigation for a savage beating?
I'm not really bothered whether or not you consider me a worthwhile person.
The grounds on which you choose to insult me, however, seem pitifully thin.

madmitch

any business can only be evaluated within the environment it operates in. on the basis that our environment is principally the spl, then we are an unqualified success in sporting terms,and a success financially, we have clearly established a strong youth programme...we are signing talented young players from various european leagues...something you demanded at length on previous occasions...we could be more attractive on occasion other than that i see no major problems....the club has direction, strategy and a plan...and it is delivering

you should be pleased to be a celtic supporter in these times..if you are so dissatisfied with Celtic, we would have to place you on suicide watch if you were a rangers supporter

pablo

Can you include a link to any of Mother Teresa's hits before I rush to judgement?

quality squealing on real radio right now

sftb, knew you'd still be hanging around :o))) I said to the good doctor on the 'phone 20 minutes ago that I wasn't going to chomp on your wee hook !!!

As a loud-mouthed reasonably talented tennis star once said.............

Ach, you know the line !!!

pablophanque

BTW, gotta be the quietest day on here for about a month non ?

pablophanque

Real Radio

"Most e mails/texts support this campaign" (We Deserve Better)

Campaign? CAMPAIGN?

At the moment it is a slogan. It will only become a campaign if SDM lowers the drawbridge and lets the "campaigners" in.

I can understand his reluctance to do so.

pablo
people are now back at work and school(both for jinks at the moment)

you are on too early, most think it is the middle of the night...

watching academy bhoys on celtic tv.... thon italian bhoy looks no bad btw

BT

barcaboy

" the club has direction, strategy and a plan...and it is delivering"

That is exactly what the RST are looking for.

Young lad on RR now talking sense - a long term plan to dig themselves out.
If they could catch half the pennies now dropping they could keep Boyd.

Ulysses ,

I will check with the makeweights and let you know :)

I quite fancy it but my compadre's breadth of knowledge extends only to :

Obscure Celtic Players
Even more obscure pyschedelic 'music'
Puggies
The Employment Service (Staff and 'Client')
Daft Bets
Dodging Rounds
Sending Junkmail

If there are any questions in the above categories we are certs.

Auldheid

They need a better slogan and i have a few to suggest:-

We deserve battered

I can't believe we're not better

The rest of Scottish football deserves better

We deserve what we've got

We deserve Boydy & Bazza

We deserve relegation

We deserve administration

We deserve Karen Carpenter (just for pablo)

nafos

with questions like that can i go on the reserve list, i no i am a south lanarkshire bhoy but i am top notch on no.4..

BT

Cadbury's confectionery
Teser vouchers terms and conditions...

Interesting slogan for them, isn't it? We deserve better?

I wonder exactly what they do deserve? For 130+ years of unsurpassed bigotry. For Manchester. For TFS.

Maybe they already have exactly what they deserve.

WG

if you are about i need some help.
st j blantyre have a new pp, think you might no him..
email me please at
blantyretim@aol.co.uk

BT

celtic v villreal from my dtr birthday. april 04
only brought it u cos its the game we drew 1-1, did that wee swedish mercenary miss the penalty that night? O)))))

Hi Paul,

Long time lurker, occasional poster (not in a long while).

I've been searching the site for your e-mail address, looking for some advice regarding starting up a website.

Cheers,

Jonathan88

Here We Go, 4 In A Row

Thouroughly enjoyed RR tonight, the assembly against the trust, best comment tonight from a Celtic man, they were asked to stump up at the share sell and embarassed themselve by not buying and have no right to complain and finished with I'm loving this and a right good laugh out loud.

the treble will have to do

hail hail

Regarding slogans for TFOD, how about....

"We deserve the jail!"

and

the treble will have to do

hail hail

BT

Not read back yet but I heard a bit of the Real Rangers phone in and it was so funny hearing the Trust shouting at the We deserve better guy

haha haha hahahahahaha

Meltdown at Ibrox is on the horizon....oh, happy days !!!!......whisper....I have a solution....they could become a 'green' company....'save the planet of the Apes'

jinks
pablo was just saying how quiet it was today, i said that you where back at work/school...
are we getting a team to take on the serious bhoys? ;0)))))

We deserve better than the RST

We deserve better than Edgar

We deserve to burn in the big fire until the last traces of bigotry are purged and several eternities pass to ensure that our dust has scattered beyond any prospect of re-assemblage, except Edward, of course

Now, can we fit that last one on a banner.

BT

Work / school !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some people say I act like a schoolboy but .............

Mail me when you get a minute

We deserve...

This?

Nothing less?

A worthy distraction?

A slow, staggered, segmented enlightenment, which obfuscates the the view of the harsh realities of our Chairman's coarse, ego driven cattle drive in the desert... (Too McCarthy?)

More debt?

At least a Daily Record story touting Kaka for Rangers...

West London huns vs Saaaarfend Sky 993 if anyone's interest...

Regarding Lenny's trial, if there are any bona-fide
Solicitor-Advocates lurking I hope and pray that Lenny is getting the best legal support available because we can't trust the meeja to report him in anything other than tabloid terms.

Bankiebhoy1wishinghewasbeltrami.

We deserve neither fear nor favour

We deserve 100 years of unsurpassed administration

We deserve Daryll Broadfoot

jinks
mail at you milky.....

SFTB, :-)

up_over_goal :-)

MurdochauldandHay, ha! How would the Marquis suggest they progress?

inkybhoy, “when is a tsunami a good thing?” Ha!

Socrates Mulligan, ha!

Auldheid, “If they could catch half the pennies now dropping they could keep Boyd.” Best one of the night.

Is there a full moon or something? We are all in fine form.

Jonathan88, you can email me via the About page, or just send to celticquicknews@gmail.com.

BarcaBhoy

We were an unqualified from where I was sitting during the second half of the recent DU game!

You already know my big money issues from the past 3 years, just add GL to the list.

My main problem is that we seem to be half hearted, we do some good stuff and then it all goes pop.

You are right we have signed some interesting young players recently but then we start chasing after SA - 28 with fitness issues.

Worse if he fails at WHL we will probalbly pay good money for him.
To coin a phrase - no, no and thrice no.

1-0 southend!

"We preserve bitter"

Southend 1 English scum 0

Ulysses ,

Firstbus timetables
Ways to get drapped aff first

We deserve a right good thrashing

whooosh Yo! paul ..looking forward to the amortisation answer at the quiz night..
Yo! peeps what gives? short evening in bedlam..well mans clinic indeed!
"we desert better"? never heard of em...
Ian paisley in the chip? i can imagine him banging the wee door at jintys and screaming oaths while declaring ashton lane the queens highway..oooh which reminds me...
managing challenging behaviour on page 2

Yo! pablo..hope you are well....

okies i am looking to form/ join a team for this quiz night...anyone?

tommy aldridge> 6.47 ..you can bring yer drums and ozzy osbourne to re-enact the speak of the devil tour i saw you on..... :-)

We deserve Better?

Not quite as hard hitting as Sack The Board.

Im guessing they are getting what they deserve.

Cant see them having their 'The game is over the rebels have won' moment, maybe just 'The game is over'

MartyBhoy

Cheers for the nod for Saaaarfend turned over and they scored 1-0.

Barcelona v Ath Madrid 401 at 21.00.

We deserve better
Is that not an anagram of

Debt Sweeter Ever

After spending £600 million on his chelsea Abramovich must be thinkin wtf:):):)

Question? Name the two teams to have knocked Chelsea out the last two domestic cups?

okies forget that above link...it dont work... i will have to find something else

"We deserve...

everything we get" ?

TLWIO

"we deserve butter"? must have been the accent...

Interesting reading from our Funny Friends on Follow Follow.

Most are saying Murray Out. There are a few challenging this with the question.....who takes over? Cue the tumbleweed bowing through the thread.

The 90's were almost worth it for this.

Hilarious.

SwanseaBhoy

Dennis 47

Went back and checked your post, that's exactly what you said. That pushing someone should not be an excuse for an assault, a verdict I suspect the jury will support. A reasonable statement I thought at the time and remember agreeing with.
Perhaps ragnarshairypans might have another quick look, we can all make mistakes, that is not ment to be patronising.

cubist ...,
kwality :oD

the treble will have to do

hail hail

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Kojo at 5.44

While I agree there are few fin(ah) tha Dinah at her best may I be so bold and forward as to mention Miss etta James especially on the song "At Last" sends shivers up and down the spine or possibly Miss Janis Joplin on the quite outstanding (although perhaps not entirely appropriate on a Celtic web site) "Little Girl Blue".

Yours in Celtic (and grand music)

Miller

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Auld Heid.

I detected frae yer last posting tae me.. no ye last posting, but the wan that wiz directed at me...which is why I made the distinction..in case ye cared.

That.. ye thought that the all the People in the World wur in close and permanant contact ...no in touchy feely contact, but in a, for want of a anither term... in a Spiritual Wan..

Again,my apologies tae the Atheists among .. who may be offended at such a reference.. Although, Between you an Me( Should that no be I?..ed)( Na! I am no talking tae you pal..so keep oot o' this discusssion,)

To continue...

Between you an ..O.K.. I..

I think the Atheists miss oot oan a loat o' interesting discussions oan a myriad o' subjects...because o' their non Belief in oor Belief... but, that is neether here or no here.

That being said..

I believe that The Whole Population o the World.. and I include..

Dogs, Cat,s Worms, ants..Fish.. even G.A. Supporters...have their intellects Conjoined( Whit?..ed)( Weel.. Ah jist Dae,dae.)

Even I go as far as T.V. advertisements!( THe Heck, ye say?..ed)( Ah dae ah Dae say)

Hiv ye evah, bin sitting with a companion... and made a remark..noo, it could be about anything frae the Price o' Baloney.. tae How yer hair,when ye wake foist time, in the morning.. sometimes, looks great and lies jist right..and ye can nevah evah get it tae lie the same way again,nae maitter how ye try? and...

The next advertisement that Appears on the Tele..seconds after ye hiv mentioned the above... here there is some Gal, talking aboot.. Hair Products.. Shampoo.. Dandruff or Itherwise... or

Some Chef... Extolling the benefits o hivin a SLice of Baloney tae go wit that Swiss Cheese,in yer next Sandwich.

I know that ye hiv experienced this kind o' a phenomena,in fact Everyboady who is Anyboady..His... at wan time or anither.

But maist people, pit it doon tae Coincidence.

Coincidence? No likely.

In fact.. there is nae sich a thing as Coincidence!

Every thing that Happens in Life...

Wiz meant tae Happen... and in that particular wey.

Ye didnae know that?

Shush... even Edgar Cace did...

And I agree with Him.

Anyway.. I jist thocht I wid gie ye the benefit o' why I believe that the Whole World is in very close contact. Intellectually Wired taegether.. so tae speak.

Naething that happens jist disnae AFFECT YOU and YOU ALONE.

Everything his a Purpose.. and It AFFECTS ALL O THE CREATURES OAN THIS PLANET!

Kojo.
yer pal..who likes tae mak ye think..

So There!

We deserve...

d it?

everything that's coming to us?

to be twinned with Partick?

Murray?

Your contempt?

Mayod

Very clever

Can I suggest

"ever sweeter debt"?

plagiariserscsc

TLWIO

By
james traynor

14/01/2009 17:09
BREAKING NEWS: Kaka Rep Says Leaving Milan For Rangers Is "Not Impossible"
The Brazilian star's representative has said that if a deal is agreed between the clubs, his client would consider a move to Scotland
Rangers do stand a chance of landing Milan ace Kaka this month, according to his representative, Diego Kotscho.

Kotscho, having already spoken to Italian press and insisting his client cares about a lot more than money, today spoke exclusively to Sky Sports News and said that a move is nevertheless not out of the question.

"We know about this meeting yesterday in Milan," he said. "For Kaka, we have to wait for the [agreement] between the two clubs. "It's not just about money. We have to see a good project and if Rangers can become one of the top teams of the world - then we can negotiate to join them."

Happy In Milan

The agent, speaking from Kaka's hometown of Sao Paolo in Brazil, refuted the notion that his client has become unsettled by the arrival of fellow big names, Ronaldinho and David Beckham. "He's very happy in AC Milan," he declared. "He's happy with who he works for. It's not a problem for him to play with David or Ronaldinho and the top players in the world."

He did, however, end by saying that the SPL has its attractions - with Kaka having said himself that the idea of playing there if things went awry with Milan - and ultimately, a deal is possible with any club if a fee is agreed with Milan.

"Of course the SPL is one of the best leagues of the world," continued Kotscho.

"It's not impossible, but they need to have a deal with Milan."

The Scottish press have been in a frenzy speculating that the transfer could be worth anywhere between £100-120 million and that the attacking midfielder himself could earn anywhere between £200,000-a-week (over 25% increase on his current, already highly lucrative salary) to the ridiculous realms of £500,000 per week, which would come to £26m earned per year.Money is no object says Rangers chairman David Murray I always make sure this club deserves what it gets

We deserve Bailiffs.

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See Nacho (with the I'm really worried permanent look on his face) stated today (sky text) that the players are unaffected by all this, and are actually very happy on the field/at training and very happy in the dressing room......once he engages his Pbrain, he might realise that's the last thing the Funs want to hear at this point in their illustrious history.....he could end up emulating that police officer in Manchester......

I wonder what Chic Youngs blog next week will be about. This week McGeady and Boruc, next week Naylor perhaps? Must be difficult to identify subjects in a slow news week.

Aldo67

reminds me of one of my favourite wee poems (and almost seasonal)

jollymerry
hollyberry
jollyberry
merryholly
happyjolly
jollyjelly
jellybelly
bellymerry
hollyheppy
jollyMolly
marryJerry
merryHarry
hoppyBarry
heppyJarry
boppyheppy
berryjorry
jorryjolly
moppyjelly
Mollymerry
Jerryjolly
bellyhoppy
jorryhoppy
hollymoppy
Barrymerry
Jarryhappy
happyboppy
boppyjolly
jollymerry
merrymerry
merrymerry
merryChris
ammerryasa
Chrismerryas

MERRY CHRYSANTHEMUM

"The Computer's First Christmas Card" Edwin Morgan, 1968.

just been on SSN that appaih played for spurs in a closed doors friendly today,

Aldo, good my friend and the time when your not working 8 days a week can't come quick enoug IMHO. Read your reply earlier that you and yours are well also and good to see that anaw.

Think we've got our 4, but you can go on the waiting Lhist if you like :o)))

pablophanque

Ulysses

Partick?

They deserve to be twinned with Kabul

Thanks Paul, you've got mail.

Jonathan88

Here We Go, 4 In A Row

Gawdamnit !!!! Just committed one of my most hated cardinal sins !!!!

"You're" even Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Paul, gonny get us wur bins back ????

pablophanque

Quizking, been away all day just saw your reply.
What pubs do you do then? ever do auld inn and starbank?

Murdochauld....,
didnt bain a walt diney go to milan to open negotiations under the cover of chasing a another target a couple of years ago :oD

the treble will have to do

hail hail

Murdochauldandhay

I believe that story...

TLWIO

Be Deserve Wetter
Be Severed Wetter
Beer Wetted Verse
Better Wed Reeves
Best Reverted Wee
Web Served Teeter
Bed Trees Ever Wet
Bed Wetters Re Eve
Debt Terse Ever We

We do serve Betty.

Jonathan88, if that's your name and birth year, then you're a year older than my Bhoy with the same name !!! I had to do a re-take just to make sure he wasn't on here keeping an eye on me :o)))

pablophanque

Ps, happy 21st when it comes if all of the above is accurate !

Bye the way,

ah heard that Winchester Club was a bit of a cowboy shop!

..... coat and stetson at the ready!!!!

SFTB
Dont be so harsh on Kabul, there's a lot less troll's and bonesoockers in kabul and at least their wummin cover their faces. I'll tell ye's its no easy, to go out on a friday night to some of the pubs in partick would give you the dry boak.

the treble will have to do

hail hail

Pabs

Dave, BT, and moi

You get the musos

BT the new fitba ones

Dave - the olden times

And me - the drinks in

Janice Battersby is a better singer than Janis Joplin.

Although Janis did her best to sound 'black' if she had been African- American she'd have been chased, and told to come back when she could sing.

Anyways, if Pablo is on I should be in my scratcher.

Come on the Shrimpers!

we deserve better

to me it says we follow the devil....
we dont serve
we dont care
we deserve to go....

imho...... 0)))))

aLDO67

ur ye gonnae post all 3365 of they anagrams? :¬)

TLWIO

Jinks, sorted :o)))

pablophanque

Ps, I'd like to reserve my usual suit if that's alright with the boss !?

67heaven - are you not retired yet :-)
LFT

pablo> it is good to have a bit of time off..erm most of last night and this morning :-) glad yer doing fine, see you for a beer on the quiz night then...
a word of warning...i think DBBIA posted a phil collins song before lunchtime..and then the lyrics got posted... as well ye know theres only one man fit to fill the boots(stop giggling at the back)of the genesis frontman and it certainly wiznae mr collins...profound evidence IMHO of the drummer/singer debate...
get back behind the drumkit and someone switch that mike off!!

TLWIO> thats a nice christmas poem...i will save it for next year....

SwanseaBhoy, “The 90's were almost worth it for this.” :-)

Jonathan88, will reply soon.

Pablo, the bins are gone for good.

How sweet would a chorus of this be from MOrdor

Why dont you go home, why dont you go home

SIR DAVID MURRAY Why dont you go home

Why dont you go home, why dont you go home

The con trick is over - why dont you go home

OR better still if they lower themselves as we all know they can and bring his disability into it....... And you know they are as low as that with their track record

Much appreciated Paul.

Kabul deserves better!

TLWIO> lol, i just caught some of the better ones....
brightens up a dull rainy wednesday night i suppose...
best female vocalist? jon anderson of yes and geddy lee of rush...

or best female vocalist with best armpit hair has to be nena...with just one short of 100 red balloons...
as its before midnight i wont post the link...

female vocalist

what about that stevie chick from fleetwood mac?

Just had an uncomfortable thought. The centenary season was 21 years ago, seems more recent than that. Which it's self was 21 years after lisbon.When guys then spoke about lisbon it always seemed so long ago to me, while for them it must have seem like yesterday.

However much I look back to the centenary season with affection, something younger fans must find puzzling,"a league and cup double, so what", it rather puts both the lisbon lions achievements and infact recent successes into a sort of perspective.

Does this resonate with anyone of my age( 71 is my year of birth rather than my age!!)

is her name no Stevie Chicks?

bsm71
lucky you I'm a 66 man, at least i was born for lisbon, don't remember much about it though, i was nov 66

best female vocalist?

Tracey Thorn of EBTG, bar none.

TLWIO

uly
might get it nicks time 0)))

Pabbers

No need to wear a suit for this event - unless we are at the top table ...............

Of course theres room at the inn mate - mi casa es su casa

Female singer
Joni gets my vote.

Best female vocalist - Amy Lee - Evanescence

linda ronstandt

Annie Lennox FFS, are you all tone deef :oD

the treble will have to do

hail hail

boy george /george michael/devine

canamalar

Excellent shout - but its female vocalists

hang on... all about eve had someone that could sing a fair bit...canny mind her name tho.....
all about eve
bsm71> i was thinking last night about the top ten celtic goals i remembered.. it is hard to forget the centenary year...

MurdochauldandHay @ 8:42pm:

'Money is no object says Rangers chairman David Murray I always make sure this club deserves what it gets'

That made me chuckle, cheers mate!

canamalar
aye

jamiebaby
you missed out rou paul?(sp)

don't forget bananarama,(cos they where tims)
the girl from style council wisnae a bad chanter either....

have wee signed anybody yet?

does anyone else think that as we see rangers sink further into the mire, the more dangerous Glasgow and surrounding areas will become for Celtic fans?

I really believe as they go down, their "fans" will go down fighting

Streisand, ya bunch o heathens!

Although Donna Summer brings me oot in a hot flush....

TTTTlastdanceCSC

aldo67

Paul mcstay's left foot volley at ibrox.

What about Kate Bush? She *might* be a good drummer...

Female vocalist - Anna Nalick

cousin puts hull up 1 0 up against newcastle on 81 minutes...

TTTT> can ye not get some HRT for those hot flushes?
:-)
bsm71> i picked andy walkers winner same game!

For hot flushes try RHT...

martin42.
you have mail.

There was many great things about the centenary season,one I miss was actually loathing their manager for reasonable and morally acceptable reasons.

Souness was the most arrogant, objectionable manager of any team I can think of, the governor paul ince had potential but thankfully he's finished.

The man was unable to admit any mistakes.

bojan just scored for barca from a cross from sylvinho and what a ball it was .
melissa manchester

for bust flushes try RST

Leo Sayer @ 6:29,

“Her brother Richard had gone to the canteen”

A really shouldn’t laugh at that, but a cannae help it :O)))

female drummers
wasn't there a british band in the 60s had a female drummer?

the Honeycombs?
drummers name Honey Lantree?

the only hit I remember is "Have I the right"
"

cqners favourite female singer must be LENA MARTELL

aldo67

It was actually Rogan's assist that was the genius.

macca against the rearangers centenary season...

mcstay supperb pass to morris cut back to macca,,
my brother and muself jumping up and down only we forgot that we had seats in their end of the south stand, that was after we had a goal disallowed, we had jumped and got away with it cos wee shouted offside before they realised what had happened, needless to say we didn't appear for the second half...

memories... like the corners of my mind..(just for tttt)

That Campaign of the Rearrangers has just spawned a low fat healthy option protest:

I Can't Believe It's Not Better!

being manufactured by (the) Kraft!

Available from Square Dealers Everywhere!

Ha!

there used to be an all female band called FANNY saw them at greens playhouse suzy quatro's sister was the lead singer,they backed up jethro tull

All About Eve singer was Julianne Regan.

GettingInPracticeForTheQuizCSC

(best female vocalist is Liz Fraser)

female vocalist..ROBERTA FLACK every time.

bsm71> yep, hard one to choose between walkers goal and maccas...
female vocalist> alice cooper? ;-)

Remember back to the early nineties the one thing I always remember is that whenever the Maestro was interviewed during the dark days he always said

'There is a buzz about the place'

What should Barry Ferduson's be.

'Murray wants Naebody about the place'.

on the female singer debate

Janis Joplin can't be beaten, although I also have a liking for Kate Bush. nothin gwrong with Karen Carpenter and she fits the mood sometimes. Also Sia is current addition and Outstanding.

aldo - Hun Removal Therapy? Minty has been going the right way with that!
You'll get more than hot flushes when timinyyz finds out you've put Geddy Lee up as best female vocalist. :-)

TTTT

Been told our manager is currently shopping in Spain.
Currently there with his sharp suited friend.
Fact.

Female vocalist - Dusty Springfield or Aretha Franklin

Jamiebaby,

I remember the band FANNY. I just could not get into them.

anton
was that you in your younger days, i always had you as a Siouxsie
signer...

BT

oneanton> well done.. i couldnt remember the name..
sad thing about the centenary year was that we suffered for a long time after that with only random sporadic and all too brief respite....
anyhoo " happy days are here again!"

I reckon Billy Hallidy would have been no bad if she could have held a tune :OD

the treble will have to do

hail hail

Know for cert that one of our scouts is in Portugal as of this week...

Can I say Tina Turner?

Flatbush avenue etc, etc

Lulu ???

mcgrory
wgs is in spain and has been for a few days, i posted earlier today about another spanish kid, looks like we are again building for the future...

I heard from a very reliable penguin that we are also scouting in Antartica.

Bless me father I have sinned......

Ulysses..,
theres wan in edinburgh too :o)

the treble will have to do

hail hail

jamiebaby

I was at that gig too, man. I still got the ticket stub

1974

Natalie Merchant.(female singer)

Off topic slightly but did anyone else pick up on Sir Alex's comments about the disallowed goal vs Chelsea from the fly wee corner?
A good number of years ago I was in the Celtic end at a European game against (I think) Dynamo Kiev ansd saw Paul McsTay and an other do the same move....with the same result....the ref made them retake it.
Anyone elso remember this?

We deserve better :

Silver Medals
Treatment from the Media/Police
Looks

If I could have any vocalist in ma front room it would be the equivalent of Nigella Lawson in the Kitchen........Debbie Harry.

We could listen to Aretha Franklin thegither

Canamalar...

... meaning?

jovh67,RRC
good to know that some people are as old as me lol

TTTT> do i get away with the geddy lee comment if i state im a lifelong rush fan? i answered the same question in a kerrang! quiz once and won a cd...
ceilingunlimitedCSC

anton - don't give me that Liz Fraser guff!
Only kidding, she's awesome at that.

BT - another man in touch with his feminine side.
Well, Jinky said you were!!

GL2 and me debating whether to take the wives to the quiz night....hmmmmm. c.P67

TTTT

Oneantonrogan

Liz Fraser -- a fine shout - especially on this This love

bsm71 Cant listen to her at all - cant for the life of me think why...

mcgrory for arsenal.

There was a lunch at Celtic Park 7 restaurant for Celtic credit card users, which our manager was due to attend. However, he couldn't as he was away on club business according to one of the Celtic staff there.

Gary Pendrey attended on his behalf & I spoke to him after the lunch. A very pleasant & humourous man. He also confirmed Gordon was away on club business.

dumbhoy,
she's an auld wummin eee naw :oD

the treble will have to do

hail hail

Paul

I liked your post @5.36, it would be a great laugh if you did a topic on it,your interpretation of their gripes,what a laugh!

hows about-

"Lloyds Severe Letter!"

Liz is definitely one of the best.
Also Maria McKee

Jamiebaby

Celtic Park and the Green's Playhouse/Apollo

my two favourite places in Glasgow.

putting on the agony

my da was there and it was he who confirmed to me that wgs was indeed in spain.
i just added the wee bit about the the young barca player myself..

putting on the agony putting on the style @ 9.54,

Did GP jot some stuff down on a notepad for 20 minutes before he spike to you?

ulysses...,
meaning - thers a scout in edinburgh, is that so hard to understand.

the treble will have to do

hail hail

please take wives to the quiz night, I don't want to be the only ghirl there :-(

I am debating taking Mr OAR, but I think I might just escape without him, depending on the plans of my matchgoing partner-in-crime.

RRC
the gods in the place used to give you the shivers when it bounced

Gary67 on January 14, 2009 9:42 PM

Female vocalist - Dusty Springfield or Aretha Franklin.

At last some sense, Gary67 - the voice of reason. Dusty and Aretha, the queens of soul.

I was once on the Lochee # 1 bus coming back from a game and we stopped to help some people at the side of the road (their car had broken down).

Anyway, lo and behold was it not Aretha and her manager!

Turns out she was touring Scotland "on vacation".
When she saw our scarves and Celtic tops she treated us to an hour of Celtic songs all the way back to Dundee. Her all time favourite is 'Oh Hampden in the sun"
I had goosebumps the size of gobstoppers when she sang that song.
Another thing, she finished our carry out! It was worth it however just to hear her sing.

She was made an Honorary Member of The Lochee Sons of Donegal CSC by the committee
Anyone else remember this occasion?

The centenary year was different for the fans. Every game mattered in a way that was new to us and the determination to keep going was extraordinary.I mind Alex Smith who I think was manager at Aberdeen (or was it St Mirren) then saying that playing Celtic was like playing against a hundred year cause, and he was right. The winning goal in the cup final took Celtic fans to a new high. It wasn't just the 11 players who won the double, we all did.
There have been many moments since then but the centenary year, game after game, was something really special.

that real radio minty sanctuary was hilarious tonight...

wonder if the bloke/leader of the rearrangers assembly is on the same payroll as minty's media lapdog poodles? either that or minty had a gun to his napper.

we should prehaps all back thier assembly (like jjb) just to keep minty in power! :)

RRC 9.28PM
Im with you on that one...the venom of thier hatred of us has become far far worse,even work collegues whom would usually participate in football talk/banter whisper in the corner together and simply wont entertain fitba conversation with you.

After being consumed by the good times of past the slow weaning of such highs are now being replaced by a 'dark cold turkey' , we will now see what the 'peepol' are all about.But i do fear for the safty of my fellow hoops fans especially if we beat them in the next meeting.

Canamalar
Nearly all the suggestions are auld wummin now!

What am ur supposed tae say.......Beyonce, Leona Lewis, Anastasia???

I'd be gettin investigated fur that!

Great female singers: Sandy Denny deserves a mention surely?

benjybhoy,

Are you trying to outdo my Pat McGoohan story from earlier ??

I bet it was Darcheville in drag!

Rumour O'Filter Focuses On Citeh And Eastern Promise.

Transfer Shamfers Loads O'Pampers.

Why is Colic not Bosnian Left Back?

anton

no clyde fans allowed,you will have to have your celtic supporting male friend accompany you....

BT

Canalamar - sorry not meaning then.. more regarding???

benjybhoy

Were you perhaps partaking of substances at the back of the bus that night? ;-)

dumbhoy
one of the problems of having an 8yo daughter is that i have to watch videos of said femaile artists, you forgot to mention rhianna, cascadia and the countless others that i am subjected to over an evenings entertainment. for mini bt of course...

oneantonrogan

mrs bananas will be there so you will not be alone!

I have just logged on and not read back through tonights posts so I apologise if it's been mentioned but did anyone catch that kid-on Jambo Ewan cameron on Real Radio earlier. I tuned in on my way to training and never mind Murray, this guy couldn't be further up that bigot David Edgar if he tried. Unbelievable stuff and one caller just after he spoke to some guy from some other Rangers fans group compared him to Jeremy Paxman!

I haven't heard a bigger hurting hun on the radio than him tonight.

oneantonrogan - think Minx1888 will be there and she's good craic, so you won't be alone.

dumbhoy - great hoose! Who's in the bedroom?!!!

TTTT

Never ever have I been so happy about the state of that mob!

So why is Paradise such a horrible place to watch the Hoops these days?

We should be singing and dancing FFS, we are going for 4 in a row!

WE DESERVE BETTER-

http://143.252.148.160/sol/homepage/news/article1170496.ece

scroll down for live footage!

Not sure if this is old news but i was told the other day that Steven Fletcher is a Celtic fan. i think he would bring more balance to the team with him being left footed!

dumbhoy,
but yea were listening to aretha :oD and some of those mentioned are less questionable than a saggy aul boot :OD)

the treble will haave to do

hail hail

It was definitely Aretha The Queen of Soul.

She also mentioned that Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder listened to the games on a radio at the Motown Studio.

On another occasion around about May 1973, in The Clansman Bar I saw David Bowie in full Ziggy Stardust mode and Dave Hill the axe player with Slade downing pints and belting out TBOTOB.

Honest guv.

www.bewlaybrotherssonsofdonegalcsc.co.uk

blantyretim, ha, I doubt the idea of a night in a room full of Celtic fans will entice him out anyway.

Modern female singers are rubbish, except Amy Winehouse (this isn't completely true, but I'll have to have a think)

Hopefully our manager is at the Barca game tonight to talk to Sylvinho and Messi :):):)

BT

You luckeee, luckeee drink server (as Monty Python would say).... I'm subjected to Hannah Montana, HSM (all versions) and the Sugar Babes. But I'm looking forward to next year when tinydum is then 8 and I can listen to some grown up music!

jamiebaby 9.37

hows it going? My Dad was telling me about seeing a band called Fanny supporting a big name band at the Apollo but I thought he was pulling my leg, inappropriate also that he was telling me whilst sitting waiting for Christmas Eve vigil mass to start!

there was another female band - Girlschool

they did a cover version of "Doncha touch me, baby"
with Motorhead a few years back.
i think they might have supported them on tour also.

dunbhoy
don't mention hannah montana please. (to you older peeps, she is the daughter of aiky breaky heart superstar billie ray cyrus..)

the suit life is also hellish, don't mind the wizards though ;0))

sorry forgot this was a celtic site....
hail hail

On Aretha and Dusty Votes please for the best version of Son of a preacher man. I go with Dusty (just) Although Aretha runs her pretty close,

Anybody can be a good singer when you have an army of producers to cover up your mistakes. Britney, Hannah, et al? I'm looking at you ...

Dusty

No Brainer.

TTTT

Mrs Dum .............of course )))

and usually tinydum too

P&b
told you he wasnt always a lier?????? seen hin last week

Canamalar

I was waitin for you to post St Winifred's School Choir! They'll all be about 30 now!

Lisa Hanniban......please.

Female singers

Has to be the great glasmerican Sheena Easton

9-2-5 csc

rrc> girlschool did "please dont touch"
please dont touch
ah ...memories...

It's been like a party on here all week

lovin it!

Ulysses...,
I'd be a bit surprised if what you say, was us doing our scouting for this window, I'd hope/expect we already have our targets. Anyone being looked at in portugal at this stage of the season I can only imagine would be to the summers dossier. So I'm no getting any more excited about someone being in portugal than any one being in edinburgh.

I note you dont take similar exception to moonbeams off the cuff remark, is there a problem ?

the treble will have to do

hail hail

madmitch

Thank you for the lesson in 'real life' corporate governance, but it really wasn't necessary. I have never said that people at Celtic Park or anywhere else should, or do, stick robotically to their job descriptions, which is the Aunt Sally of a position you seem to be trying to construct for me.

You mention a couple of episodes which clearly illustrate that Brian Quinn had reservations about some things being done by other club employees, and expressed these to the people involved and other colleagues. That is absolutely right and proper.

What he did NOT do, was to make decisions for senior management figures who have been given responsibility in their allotted areas. He did not veto the re-signing of Bobo Balde by Martin O'Neill and Peter Lawwell. You have criticised him for that. I praise him for it.

Why do I say so, when it turned out to be a rotten bit of business for Celtic? Because mistakes will always be made in every organisation at every level; but the only way the organisation can progress is if people are given freedom to act within their own field of responsibility and expertise. THAT is a 'real world' management lesson which I'm Brian Quinn evidently learned decades ago, and which I hope you'll eventually take on board.

Your conclusion is that Celtic are badly managed. I have refuted (to my own satisfaction at least) the examples you attempted to provide, and I hold up the club's current position as evidence that your current worries are are misplaced as your past ones.

Your other comments are however like a beacon of insight, clarity and accuracy compared to your economic analysis. Are you at all au fait with the theories of the Austrian school of economics? Your dismissal of my earlier comments as 'kitchen table economics' implies you are not. Disagree by all means, but slighting a substantial body of work in this way reflects badly on you.

Most of what you say in this area is too general or incoherent to reply to sensibly. One specific thing you say is that "The national debt did not grow by 5% of GDP in either of those years, consequently you may want to re-visit that particular idea"; unfortunately, I have said nothing about the national debt in either of these years.

On Celtic's finances, you ask: "First up do you agree with our current financial strength?" I don't understand the question. I do agree that we're currently in a position of financial strength relative to our rivals and our own recent past - is that what you meant?

Yoiu say: "The question here is this the best three years of football the club has played in the past 15 years? Answer = No." The best football played? That's subjective; my own opinion is that there was more fun to be had for lovers of attacking football in the Tommy Burns years. It IS the most successful three years of tootball in the last 30 years though.

"Is it the best level of talent the club has had in any three year period? Answer = No." Agreed, as per my e-mail from 5am this morning to Auldheid, on the last thread. It is however the most 'bang for the buck' we've had out of our football budget in any three year period.

"Is this the happiest the support has been over a three year period? Answer = No." Goodness knows how one measures such a thing, but I'd say we were happier during the MON years.

I conclude, based on my own answers above and in previous posts, that we are in pretty good shape after several difficult years, with strong finances, a management team getting the best out of the resources available to it. We stand ready to deliver on Paul's GoD predictions over the coming seasons, even if Rangers do dig themselves out of their current predicament.

You conclude: "Consequently this is why I say that we are poorly run. We have spent lots but delivered little. The wage level is on the rise with no attendant increase in quality.
I fear we are looking at a Black Sunday level of performance especially as the defence offers hope to the whole SPL. We are a poorly run club that have allowed this scenario to develop. Something has to give."

That will be my sides if I don't stop to clutch them. Sometimes it's best to let your debating opponent's own words do your work for you.

madmitch, you are a good Celtic man and I think I'd enjoy talking about these matters with you much more if we both had a pint to hand. I hope you are just as miserably wrong in May about the state of our club as you have been ever since you came on the board. Either way, the beers are on me if we are ever in BBs together.

RRC

Kim McAuliffe

Murdochauldandhay,

Sheena Easton is a Bellshill girl, born and bred.

Martin.

Murdochauldandhay,

Sheena Easton is a Bellshill girl, born and bred.

Martin.

dumbhoy
you are me 1 year ago

guess what? nothing changes, enjoy your place in life...

One of St Winifred's School Choir was Sally Lindsay who was Shelley in Coronation Street.

Fear my trivia knowledge for the quiz, chaps!

aldo

the very one!

P&B - if we bring the wives, do they have to be included in our quiz team?!
There might be more than one Greenock team, although the treacherous Cadizzy will be Sheikhing his booty elsewhere and Jinkyredstar has joined some other old fogeys!!

BT - if you don't like being subjected to Beyonce, Rhianna or Anastasia videos then you're maybe too much in touch with yer feminine side!!

TTTTsumthinkindaoohCSC

Candie Givens, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW9qYRUK0Tc

(footage is live, audio is from some other source)

dumbhoy

Is she the hot dark haired one?

Apropos of nothing (eh?)

Had a wee scan of a couple of footy biogs and gleaned the following

MEL STERLAND's= he shared a room with cooper and said ; cooper always talking about how much he hated 'fenians'. perhaps of its time but more you hear of cooper the more of a bigot he becomes.

GRAHAM ROBERTS = HIS WIFE WAS REDUCED TO TEARS BY MURRAYS WIFE. Murrays wife gave her a serious ticking off because her baby son had green shoes!! Robert's wife was so upset at the rudeness and stupidity she wanted to return to England.
His old firm debut was actually the only match he ever won against Celtic.
He refused to attend any sponsor's event cos celtic players would be there and he hated them & wasnt prepared to hide it!
Although he says Chris Waddle was a real big rangers fan he also mentions that Glen Hoddle was a huge Celtic fan!
Like the Rangers he is SKINT! Cant even afford a car, he borrows one off Barry Ferguson.
(His side of the story is that he was stitched up by Joe Miller over the Clyde racist thing..... and you know what, I believe him)

LARRY LLOYD= His biggest pal in the Forest team was John Robertson. Lloyd says Robertson loves 3 things; his family, Forest & the Celtic.

RRC ALDO

Girlschool and Motorhead collabrated on a St Valentine's Day Massacre special single one year. Think I might still have it in the wee collection.

Girlschool were signed to the same record label as Motorhead (Bronze I think) and toured with them several times. Think it was the Overkill tour I first saw them in '79 or so. Their biggest hot was "Please Dom;t Touch) which they performed with Motorhead as HeadGirl. Sure I've got the single somewhere ...

The band is actually still going I think, although without original lead singer Kelly Johnson who died a year or two back from cancer.

Another all female heavy metal band was Rock Goddess. A bunch of teenage girls in leather. What's not to like?

Courtesy of Arsene Parcelie on KDS;

We Deserve Better - nearly

RRC

Aye. The blond guitarist was Kelly soemthing if I remember..

BT

Does that mean I'll always be a year younger than you? ;-)

TTTT

If you had ever been to a quiz with mrs bananas then you would hope not! In fact if you had ever been to one with me you woul dthink the same thing! GL2 has been in touch so hopefully we'll sort something out! I'm looking forward to it.

TTTT
maybe its just that i am longing for my youth and the thought of those young ladies at 3d's or park lane in hamilton,

martin42
i have a lot of respect for you but to post about sheena easton twice...

BT

Canamalar

To save any grief here and misconception before exception

I work beside John Park's brother - who (JP) happens to be in Portugal just now, as we speak, working to this deadline not the next - that was my intent. Simply - no more. My next question to you was are we looking at someone in Edinburgh? That's about the height of my hill of beans mate. Don't get the moonbeams ref though.

U

There's some kind of Apollo tribute floatin about the now. For the older posters how many live recordings have ye contributed to via the Apollo? I can count at least 6.

Gordon_J

Another girl teen band that kicked a**:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMDn6V7ZLhE

dumbhoy
don't know

but your daughter will always be a year younger than mini BT ;0))))

Sean Fallon
on this man craig

total celtic legend......

dumbhoy, gordonJ> i had the st valentines day masacre too..was it a live version of bomber(not a tribute to J.Brown)on the b side?
was it not the "ace up your sleeve" tour for motorhead that year?
i thought kelly died of drug overdose....

i think there was another poor band called vixen all female..
i much prefered this twisted sister

any team news for the aberdeen game? :-)

kerrang!CSC

Ulysses....,
My knickers are not in a twist :OD
moonbeams wet dreams said there was a scout in antartica too.
But more to the point who are we looking at then and if you dont know why tell us in the first place. Thats just teasing.

the treble will have to do

hail hail

McGrory

No need to speculate re Cooper. I played with him and can confirm that he wiz a staunch staunch bigot of the highest order.

blantyretim -

No he wasn't. Neither was Henrik, Jinky or Big Billy as I thought we'd all agreed last night. Harrumph!!

dumbhoy
if you played with cooper. i will always be younger than you mate...
god you must be nearly 50 now ;0)))

BlantyreTim,

Actually I only answered Murdochauldandhay's post.

I was lucky enough not to ever know the girl, but I have met her mother.

An aunt was a good customer of mine in Holytown.

I will not say what her extended family thought about her, but suffice to say, she was not a family favourite.

How are you getting on? Maybe meet again soon in BBs.

Martin.

Canamalar

Cool - thought we were fencing there for a moment.

I know nothing (EXCEPT) - the geography is meant to be misleading.

The rumblings are eastern european, but to be honest there are no leaks from this avenue, just 'hints' - like Park considers Misun to be a first team start just now, but WGS is of a different mind.

U

BT

No quite, but gettin there faster than I'd like.........son! ;-)))

Martin42
i am well thanks,
i was in the car at celtic park on saturday but as i said previously i was too ill to get out of the car to speak to you and the rest of the bhoys,
hope to meet up soon..god bless ...
BT

dumbhoy> quite a few...
ozzy, ac/dc, saxon, motorhead,whitesnake,blacksabbath,meatloaf,Dio,gillan,status quo,jethrotull..and a few more that will come to mind..
i kept all the ticket stubs for years but lost them when i moved country...
i cant remember if i saw bands at apollo or donnington or edinbro playhouse..
toooldtorocknrolltooyoungtodieCSC