Coyle and Mowbray reports rubbished

Podium?

Mr D Moyes

Barca!

Hmmmmmmmmm

Has the SSM just gave all the media a Messi like dummy?

gebhoy

The people who rubbished the reports are the same people who generated them.

Great news Paul, i can go to bed happy

That is two career 1st places for me!

Paul 67

Is this good info? It is crucial for the club to show (not talk) ambition in the next two months.

See!!

"Oweny" Guardiola it must be then!

I'm in-the-know so I am.

Someone has been telling porkies or spinning a line...

That's twice in 24 hours that the 'Sky sports news understands' line has shown to be utter tosh. Where do they get their information?

thanks paul for staying up late.
im gonna sleep easier now

bournesouprecipe
i may need to re-assess my last post on the last thread
heres hoping eh?

Will sleep better tonight...

FROM LAST POST

SadiesBhoy,

I,like you, admire Paul67 for running this site. However, I think it is daft to suggest that those on this site cannot criticise him if they wish. I, like you, cannot comment on what Paul67 thinks, but I have noticed that he can answer criticism quite well.

I think the point of the site is that we can all express our opinions freely.

jvoh67

Paul, please tell me that sources close to Celtic have also distanced themselves from Mark McGhee...

Then I will sleep soundly tonight.

No White smoke until next week, Monday perhaps to frab the back pages after a Hun double perhaps?

Does this suggest that despite being anticipated, the change of regime was not fully planned for? Or that there is a No 1 outside those mentioned that it takes time to secure and the club is willing to take the time to get the right man?

frab, eh? i meant grab!

Coyle's obviously knocked us back then.

Paul does that mean Coyle and Mogga where never targets or are they still on a list of possibles?

The longer it takes us to make an announcement the more I wonder if Moyes might actually be in the frame...

Good!

Have yet to meet a Celtic supporter who wants Mark McGhee by the way if you're reading this Peter.

Delighted for Barca tonight. They have been a joy to watch this season.

tombhoy on May 27, 2009 10:56 PM

Barber,

Correct, although I'm sure the Boss wasn't the first to utter that phrase...

SpringsteenisaTim CSC

_________________________

I'm sure he wasn't but he is probably the 1st to sing it and have it quoted on here.

Hope our new guy can take us out of these Badlands into The Promised Land, playing some Magic football in the process.

One thing about OC is that he has managed a team that won 2-0 in the Darkness on the Edge of Town. I would Drive All Night to see that.

I heard that the SSM had a Meeting Across The River with the new guy and he will be in Jungleland before the weekend.

Moyes, could it be, i certainly hope so, would fit with all the shennanigans going on giving him a stress free week in the build up to the FA Cup final!

hmmmmmmmmm

67heaven
i was citing one of wgs lines
"i dont read papers or listen to phone ins"
sorry if it was vague

nightall

Posted this on the last thread a few moments ago.

Bloke 109.

I've just come on the site and reading back,I read all the personal posts to you.
I went back to your original post,and it brought a tear to eye.A sad day for you,and I offer my condolences to you and to your whole family.

I thought that was how a PLC would operate. Everyone is still a bit overexcited from the Strahcan departure and keen to start a new era!

Jungle Jim,

Who are these people, please let everyone know.

Go on mane manes,

Martin.

From preious thread...

True Tim,

You could draw up a negative list like that for any potential candidate named thus far.

The positives for at least exploring the Bilic avenue are attractive. He may cost a little more than some of the local names mentioned, but the marketing opportunities in a football mad nation like Croatia would surely offset that? Added to his knowledge of footballing talent in that part of Europe, dismissing him without even exporing the possibilities seems strange to me.

Croatia are no international powerhouse, but their results and performances under Bilic were impressive. Of those 27 games, he only lost 3, winning 19 and drawing 5. That includes Euro 2008 and the World Cup qualifiers.

The pros and cons are there if you look for them. If David Moyes is beyond our reach then I doubt we will be able to attract someone whose pros far outweigh their cons. It's all a bit of gamble, let's hope all the possibilities are considered before placing that bet.

Paul......I get the impression the site is being infultrated by one or two of our friends across the city......

Gary '67..your comments points to a 'depressant' or an infiltrater.....LOL

From Last Thread

A show of Cyber Hands please -

How many think Sadiesbhoy is a big sook?

(aye me tae.)

Only kiddin' Sadiesbhoy, Paul's a big bhoy and has shown he can handle himself more than adequately. hail, hail. :)

Meanwhile we're just blogging in the dark...

Paul67 :

I like it.

"Sources close to Celtic tell me". Very old media.

I am looking forward to "a Celtic insider said" and "CQN understands that ........" appearing a bit more over the next few days. :)

Didn't get a chance to comment upon two articles ago about what we need in a manager, but for what its worth, you got it pretty much spot on in my view.

ggh

rt re david hay......ah !!!....LOL

Sorry Martin,
I was a bit quick of finger. I was thinking that the denials had come from the usual suspects who had created all the speculation in the first place.

Praise the Lord! It is David Moyes! We are saved!

Rossio - from last thread

I was thinking something similar this evening watching barca

OK they're not Xavi, Iniesta, Messi and Eto'o but Crosas, Aiden, Shaun, and Naka all have the skill to play quick, offensive, passing football and remember Crosas learned his trade under Pep Guardiola.

Watch how few long balls are played at Barca, how all are comfortable on the ball, passing, going by the player, holding the ball up. Watch how close they are in proximity to each other but how fast that ball gets forward.

And this was a team in crisis only 12 months ago.

They play fast, they play accurate and the play together. Tonight was a joy to watch and we must aspire to this standard.

McGrain

The curve ball is coming

Dobbo and Bournes,

That curve ball is on it's way.

Paul67,

Chick Young tonight :), Makes the BBC look stupid, all this inaccurate reporting. I wonder what his employers and colleagues must be thinking? Somwthing to discuss at their meetings i suppose.

Regardless who comes in he will be portrayed in a negative manner, you can be sure of that...the longer it goes on they'll insists its because they werent a first choice...utter bollocks

I'd really like to see celtic plc put these buggers in their place, its a dying industry lets get them put down

Dobbo, yes, this is good info.

On transfer rumours.....

My sources as are good as anyone’s and a whole lot better than most, but I don’t know a thing. I have no idea who is in the frame for the job. This story was given life at noon today and was added to later on, while our man was travelling to a football game in Rome.

What I can tell you is that today’s story was “rubbish”. The media know nothing, everyone is guessing what the club are up to.

nakamura-san :-)

Ellbhoy, I expect they will be considered but I don’t think the short list has not been compiled yet.

67heaven, absolutely.

Barber

Was it all just a brilliant disguise by the ssm and will the new boss lead us to many more glory days.

Bloke,

My regrads and condolences mate.

By 67heaven on May 27, 2009 11:08 PM

neither, just putting 2 & 2 together

Good news paul67.
Glad we're taking our time. This appointment needs to b right.
Whitedoghunch - are u around? How about lunch on friday with me + mr lavery? Just let mew know + we'll pick you up

Anyway, I am off to bed before I am asked to `mane ` any other `manes` !

Paul67,

I give you the new mnagers first signing tonight. It will be Janko closely followed by a left back.

Garygillespieshamstring, aye, very much old media. Cheers.

maleys bhoy, agree.

Jungle Jim : You are the mane man. Obviously one of the Lions.

I was in Barcelona the night they gubbed Real Madrid and the celebrations were phenominal,singing,dancing,and fireworks went on into the early morning.

I wonder what it's like tonight,they know how to celebrate,those Catalonians

Why would Celtic wait until Coyle made his statement?

Surely these sources close to Celtic could have intimated this earlier.

Well, that's a relief.

I remember well your post a day or two before Gordon was appointed, Paul.

It still applies. The Board were on the right lines then. I hope they are now. They must be dispirited, I know I am. But this is no time for weak hearts or compromise.

Let's sign a manager, not a supporter.

Hugh, still in mourning.

Paul67,

If only CQN was around for the "Artur Jorge" moment....

Bloke, Thoughts are with you. Take care.

Paul 67. Mmm on his way to Rome eh. Sir Alex it is then...

Bill O'Herlihy. Get it right up round over and under you, you Man U loving, Celtic Scoffing git! (not too strong was it?)

U21888 - i think you will find the negatives you are talking about:

Few words on Bilic:

Never managed a club side
Never signed a player
Never worked with a budget
Only ever managed 27 professional games
Never worked with technically poor players
No knowledge of Scottish football
No knowledge of current squad
Only ever worked in one, small, country

are overwhelming

I do not think the marketing opportunities in Crotia are valid when considering a new manager

That part of Europe? Like I say, Croatia is his boundry.

Admittedly - he has done well with a talented Croatia team.

WGS..this curve ball thing?? do you have any idea who the next manager is going to be?

Gary67...as Paul67 says ....we haven't approached OC....2 & 2 = 7....not to worry, the media will have us buying Alex Ferguson tomorrow .....or David Weir as player/manager......and some people will actually believe them.....LOL....and thank God your not a hunbun....LOL

Paul 67

Thanks. I am aware of an individual, workng on behalf of a manager on police bail, wantng to take one of our players off our hands. He will not go.

Incoming. I have no idea.

I should know better than to question your info. Be sure to inform your man that there are many 3rd parties who are going to act (or otherwise) based on our club's next move.

It seems as though our board has made a complete pig's bottom of this - leeks and nonsense,I am very, very,very disappointed in our governers.

Good to hear the clubs thinking on this.

Bloke_109

My thoughts are with you tonight.

EN

bloke 109 please accept my condolences to you and your family.
P.A.

mmm what's the name of the manager of Red Bull Salzburg?

enzothebaker on May 27, 2009 11:12 PM

Barber

Was it all just a brilliant disguise by the ssm and will the new boss lead us to many more glory days.

----------------------------------------------------

The SSM is Working on a Dream at the moment, but is a dream a lie if it don't come true is the question he is asking himself. Does he go for the big name and make it All or Nothing At All, or does he go for someone to build a team that Further on up the Road will deliver the goods. OC certainly has the Human Touch and could be the Local Hero the fans so desire. But right now he is enjoying having the media Dancing in the Dark.

In the Light of Day he will choose the guy who will take us to our Land of Hope and Dreams.

Bloke 109, sorry man take care.

Bloke_109

Very special post about your father.

Let perpetual light shine upon him...

is Ronald Koeman still out of work?

Hugh K has got the new Celtic manager wrong twice. Any chance of him going for a hat trick?

Paul 67, Chennaiseabird : Absolutely correct. If we get this appointment right, we can put the FOD back in the mire quickly.

However, as my old ma used to say " marry in haste, repent at leisure". I hope we are looking at more than one candidate and looking carefully. The wrong guy could set us back ten years.

However DDs last two appointments have been good in my opinion. I am sure that after due deliberation he will get it right again.

He didn't get where he is today by making rash manegerial choices Reggie.

A particular site mentioned "sources" only they had knowledge of, and that OCC was a done deal - can we take it this is pure tosh on their part or on the part of OCC? In either case, do we talk to either obvious disreputable body ever again? :¬)

By 67heaven on May 27, 2009 11:19 PM

we have, believe what you want, i believe who told me

oops he took over from Van Gaal at AZ didn't he. A bit quicker off the blocks and there is a man who found his mojo again and would have been looking for another big job.

The Daily Record appear to be going with the headline

"Owen Coyle declines Celtic offer to take over as manager!"

why does anyone still read this toilet paper?

True Tim,

And my point - probably made quite badly - is that every realistic candidate will have a list of negatives like those you quoted. All relevant, I may add, but so will the list someone publishes for our man when he is finally appointed - whomever he turns out to be.

I happen to think that Bilic would be a good appointment for his local knowledge of football talent in Croatia and his ability to attract players from outwith Scotland. The marketing comment in Croatia was about the strategy our board have adopted previously, which makes it curious if he hasn't been spoken with.

My preference is David Moyes. If he is beyond our reach I fear we will have to accept someone whose negative list will be longer than their positive list - Bilic included.

Paddysmum,

Not got a clue.

Dobbo,

We talking Brown and Spurs?

boy sean : no doubt Keevins will make out that the story came directly to him from Owen Coyle since they are such great friends.

Well done Barca,

Brought back feelings of pleasure at watching a game of football.

All this speculation and hot air is doing my box in. One thing is for sure, Lawwell or Desmond get it wrong and we are in for a revolt.

Does all this speculation take the spotlight away from the SFA and their handling of disciplinary action over the last couple of weeks, or will our esteemed rottweiler chairman be doing anything about it?

Oh and it appears the Fields of Athenrye is now banned from being played at functions inside Celtic Park!

McGrain, totally agree. When you look at the differential of our spending to the rest in Scotland, we should surely be able to play some good pass and move football to good effect domestically. I also feel we have enough players in our current squad to form the basis of this.

My base criteria for any player would be pace, mobility and comfortable on the ball. I know that doesn't come cheap, but players like Naka, Crosas, Maloney didn't cost the earth and can fit into a system like this (Naka admittedly isn't the fastest, but he does have quick feet which makes up for this a bit!).

Onwards and upwards to football the Glasgow Celtic way!

Jinkyredstar....what have you been drinkin'???....incredible comment !!!!!

.

Tony or Owen....

Anthony or Cleopatra....

Desmond or David....

Celtic or Rangers....

That is the Question....

001

bhoy sean the headline " we dont have a clue" wont sell newspapers, why let the truth get in the way of a a good story.

evening all..

just catching up on the posts since the events of monday..

just want to join in the tributes to GS..all the best and thanks for the memories and all the best for the future but its for the best.

as for the new manager..its an open field apparently although the smart money would say Coyle if the media/bookies are to be believed..know by reading the posts from various contributors on here that there are plenty of pro and cons to many of the names being mentioned..whoever gets it has got their work cut out to sort things out though its still a gig that many managers would kill for..no doubt about it..lets hope its an inspired choice who can unite the support and lift the level of apathy/stagnation that seemed to envelope the club and support since xmas..

houllier,ericsson,a mattias sammer/lambert combo(seeing as that one probably hasnt been mentioned)..would all work if its not one of the frontrunners, though thankfully Dingus seems to be ruled out..

Anyway..onto Kano..got an e-mail from Andrea Burns..jeez thats one powerful piece of footage..hope that more Celtic sites publicise this and the family get the help they need/deserve..KITALBA any info on what material help has been generated on your side of the world since it was shown??

Finally..

Michele Cocozza @ 8.04..

and the bbc prediction league..well done Seville 7

Cheers for the congratulations..hopefully I will make it 2-in-a-row next season..

THE FIGHT BACK STARTS HERE

bbc predictor league generation of domination csc..

anyway Im off to get a Brown Ale..have a stereotype to live up to apparently..

.

Tony or Owen....

Anthony or Cleopatra....

Desmond or David....

Celtic or Rangers....

That is the Question....

001

What's Phillipe troussier doing these days?

As per monteblanco on May 27, 2009 11:27 PM I would also like to pass on my congrats to Barca et al re the wonderful display of football tonight, and, in my blinkered view, putting the epl firmly in its place (2nd).

Hopefully the white smoke'll be sooner rather than later.

WGS

Nearly

U2_1888 - fair play.

I don't have a preference yet. I'm confident the right decision will be made becuase it is in the interests of the men in charge to 'get this right'.

For once - the interests of the fans align with the interests of the management team. In other words - if you want to sell tickets and make money, you need to get a bloody good coach (which is of course what the fans what to see).

Bhoy,

Headline has changed from earlier. Keevins had him on the verge of signing if they could sort out the million bonus. He aint got a clue what's happening.

Paul thanks for the frequent updates and also for your tremendous efforts to inspire the celtic supporters in the run up to the season finale. I am pleased that celtic are not jumping in with both feet and would be very surprised if they had not been aware/fore-warned of gordon strachan's departure at the end of the season. Peter Lawell and dermot desmond followed due dilligence and picked TWO WINNERS when they appointed Martin O Neill and Gordon Strachan.....HERE'S HOPING FOR A THIRD SUCCESSFUL MANAGER..... I am confident they will get it right and am releived they were not distracted by the knee jerk reaction to burnley's successful play-off victory

KEEP THE FAITH !!!!

McGeady

IMHO, the moustachiod one let us all down with his statements on Tommy Burns Thursday about making funds available to help Gordon push on after a very emotional League-Winning result. I don't know the man, but I take people at their word and he let us and Gordon down big time this year !

Which leads me to be very sceptical about his "alleged" pronouncment last week that no-one would guess our next manager with "ten guesses" ! There must have been at least 50 prospective candidates mentioned on this site alone and I very much doubt that one of those wont be our next manager !

As has been said many times, this next appointment will tell us all where our club are heading and what there short-to-medium term goals lie. Thousands of ST's will depend on him getting it right and his proclamation of the "balance sheet" leave me to believe that some of us may well be underwhelmed at the very least and more than likely, very disappointed !

pablophanque

Monteblaco...I was listening to a band in the lounge on Sunday after the game, included the Field if Athenry...!!!...and we're still waiting for the SFA to give their judgement on the huns sectarian singing at the ICT away game !!!!!!

Bloke 109

I'm just in and read your very touching tribute. You did your da proud with that simple testimony.

You know what I am totally sick about?

I am 51 years of age.I first went to CP when I was 4.

We are now being treated like s88t.

I will break my heart if the Tories at the helm destroy our club by appointing the most 'cost effective' 'subservient' joke name they can afford.

It is now time for us to raise our voices - the board must know how we feel.

verysadcsc

Paul67

Will the budget be the same as usual?

UNEWMIKE...SPOT ON !!!....keep the faith...!!

First chance I've had to post since the wee man left.

Just like to say thanks for everything Gordon! Yer a Celtic man through and through in my book!

To the next manager who takes charge of this great club of ours; deliver at least 3 out of the next 4 league titles, and you too will be a legend in my eyes!

Strachanista

WaitingForANewIstaCSC

Jinkysredstar. What leaks? As far as i'm aware none of the info leaked has come from within the club. No pigs bottom as far as i'm concerned. No panic appointment- i'm happy with that.

Ulster-Celt

Good to see your shout about 7 of that Barçelona team having come through the youths.

I make it that 6 of them were locals also.

Its the only way we could do it, good scouting, consistant coaching methods and we could get that liquid telepathic football.

BackToTheFutureCSC

Jinkyredstar

This is only the start

It is the way they report our club

Don't buy your Red top tomorrow

BLOKE..

sorry to read that..a very eloquent tribute..

hope you find some strength from the posts on here tonight

Ellbhoy, they could have had I tried to get clarification before the football finshed.

Chennaiseabird! !

U2_1888 :-)

Corrib 04 :-)

Dobbo, I see.

Garygillespieshamstring, aye.

bhoy sean, I can categorically confirm that Owen Coyle not only didn’t reject an offer from Celtic, but didn’t get an offer from Celtic.

That story is also rubbish.

UNEW MIKE, you are welcome.

Go tell the Spartim, no info.

Is the SFA selection procudure being followed then?

List the criteria required.

Check those that match.

Then appoint a Gordon Smith?

Were citeria used to select Gordon Strachan?

Are the still the same?

Bloke_109,my condolences to you and yor family,hope you have strength and support to help you through this time.
On the new manager,pleased to see us distance ourself from owen and tony,neither good enough to be celtic manager,certainly not at present,also good to see we are giving the old media a bit of a runaround.

Jinkyredstar....calm doon.....I've been at every home game for52 years and we are still being treated like s88t by the media/establishment (Scotland's Shame)......we've had some good times recently under the current Board, and I believe this will continue....!!!

Well if Owen is the Tim we think he is will he not put the "record" straight?

amazing news that these two managers whom have no real credentials have been ruled out!

i reckon our club have been working on this for a very long time!

well done

Craig Leven on Sky there getting asked about The Job.

He drove up wearing a bluetooth mobile ear thing.

No

Strachan had his faults, but what he also has which we must not forget was his strengths.
He will walk into a premiership job tommorrow easily.
Replacing a untouchable manager under difficult circumstances - the poisoned chalice, (it still is).
A ageing overpaid squad and a negative bank balance, with a financial crisis around.
Delivers a state of the art Training Facility, and strengthens the squads depth, although arguably not the first team, but not to the detriment of the success rate.

3 titles in 4 years
Some Cups
2 last 16,s in the ECL
whats not to like

We come not to bury him but to praise him, Hail Ceaser Long live the King.
We need a succesor to carry the flame, not to warm themselves by it for a while.
I told all the Inglish in work today that Manure were compacent and might get stung ouch, its nice and quite down here tonite lovely.

By Estadio NacionalAuthor Profile Page on May 27, 2009 11:40 PM

Craig Leven on Sky there getting asked about The Job.

He drove up wearing a bluetooth mobile ear thing.

No

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That categorically rules him oot then.

Pauloantony, to be completely accurate, I have no info on who the manager will be, or who is ruled out, including Coyle and Mowbray.

But, the reports today were inaccurate, including the Daily Record’s “Coyle rejects offer”. No offer was made to either man, no approach has been made to either club, neither man is first or second on any list, which has not been compiled yet.

I still think that Celtic are going to unveil Alex Ferguson and Marc Janko on Nike Friday.

I notice in the retard today that anti celtic agenda has continued unabated.
We misssed a big chance it must have been even Gollum noticed it.

If the EPL is THE GREATEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD, why are Barcelona not in it?

The finacially doped team getting horsed made my night.

Thank you Barcelona.

Paul67 : Sir Humphrey Applebey eat your heart out :)

ggh

.

Estadio National....

Hope you Are Good....I Think I Made the Right Call (The Only One) By Going to Rotterdam for a Few Days....Tomorrow....

Via the Celtic Store for Strips for a Couple of Dutch Youngsters....One is a Goalie btw....

Hope to Catch up Before l Head 'Home'....

001WhoKnowsHesNoAJinksCSC

Has Terri Hatcher made any comment yet?

Paul67,

My hunch is telling me it's one from Roberto, Alan Curbshiley or Davie Moyes. The closer it get's to Saturday i'm thinking Davie Moyes.

Waiting for this curve ball to come from somewhere.

Be delirious if it was Hitzsfeld.

Without reading too much into information i do not have Gordon Strachan's resignation as soon as the season finished (irrespective of whether celtic won the league) explains why there was little player recruitment in January which suggests that Gordon Strachans departure was not un-expected. Dermot Desmond and Peter Lawell prepared thoroughly to appoint martin o neill and gordon strachan and i am sure they have several excellent candidates in mind to BUILD UPON CELTIC'S RECENT SUCCESS

67h and bprecipe

You are correct I shouldn't get down now.

However, I feel our management are '--ishing' on us from a great height.

I would love to be wrong.

Alternatively, in a universe no so far away unfortunately, 'Celts in Crisis as both Coyle and Mowbray reject overtures to become manager of their beleaguered club.'

Well done Barcelona - style, elegeance, finesse and panache fit to grace any catwalk or even dogwalk.

Bloke109

A really great and touching tribute to your dad. My eyes filled up at the end of it. I still miss my dad who passed in 1992. He raised me on tales of the Celtic - Patsy 'the Mighty Atom', Jimmy McGrory, Jimmy Delaney, Johny Thomson and Malcolm McDonald. Cherish the memories, Bloke 109.

I'll remember you and your dad in my prayers. If any of you out there have any unresolved issues with your dads, go and see them and sort it out. You'll suffer when it's too late.

Fred C Dobbs - there was an earlier link posted to the Burnley website where Owen Coyle categorically denied any approach from Celtic and that he was leaving for a family holiday at the end of this week as the Burnley manager, with the expectation that he was returning as the Burnley manager.

I think this is all going to com down to who you want to believe.

Based on experience, I wont be buying into what the red tops tell us.

I think the taste for blood is out there tonight and Peter Lawell is in a few people's sights.

However, I think we are in danger of betraying the point of this site by holding up lazy rumours as gospel.

People are coming on with their own rumours about what Celtic are up to and then are calling our custodians a disgrace and penny pinchers on the basis of nothing more substantial than taxi driver gossip and the words of Hugh Keevins.

I know it is important that we make a quick and timely appointment. It is also important that we get it right. A few candidates will be sounded out but, not necessarily, in the order in which they are desired.

A few false trails will be led and, maybe, one of our desired candidates might genuinely turn us down and Celtic will spin it as "we never made a formal offer so he cannot have turned us down". I have to ask, "Is that a bad way to present the facts?"

Why would we demand full unadulterated truth even if it puts our club in a bad light?

What benefit is there to stating:- "We've chased a few but the first 6 candidates have laughed in our face."

Would you want us to go to ANY financial level to land our top guess at a good manager, because slightly informed speculation is all this is?

Why would we chase a managerial candidate with ever-rising sums of money when we would not do this for players like Liam Miller? Everyone has their price and some are too rich to be paid. That is the position we are in in the SPL. We cannot afford the best. We can only try to sound out the soon-to-be-best.

We badly need a sense of perspective as a club.

Iniesta! WOW!

Bloke 109. Very sorry to hear about your dad. That was a lovely memory that you shared tonight.

Its amazing how many times on this blog you find yourself really feeling for someone that you haven't met. When posts pop up from different people, you find yourself remembering the life changing moments that they have shared with us all. It has been said many times before, but its a special place.

Paul67. I love that there's all this bedlam going on on the radio, on tv and in the papers and you come on and say 'haw, calm it - nothin to see here'. Nice work.

Frever

bloke 109

god bless your dad. may he rest in peace.i will say a wee prayer for him. god bess you and your family. YNWA

Paul67 - I wish you wouldn't be beating about the bush all the time and using this double talk.

Are you trying to see the media and the bookies do not have a scooby doo who our next manager is and they are all just making it up?

Surely Chick Young wouldn't go on national TV and make a total erchie of himself? That has never happened before.

On a serious note though, I was pleased to read this sentence:

"I understand Celtic have embarked on an extensive recruitment process to fill a crucial role in the future of the club, which is unlikely to be complete in the next few days, or until every eligible candidate has been assessed."

I know you, like me, do not believe the answer lies with Owen Coyle this time around. The SSM surely has a more vivid imagination...let's see if he can pull another one out of the bunnet

BankieBhoy

I always tried to be the teacher's pet at school :-) I know that Paul can take care of himself. I just love reading the posts on this site and getting the chance to throw in my tuppenceworth.

Hail! Hail!

ggh :-)

WGS, I am pretty such no one knows who the manager will be at this stage and I’m sure we will not have an appointment until after an exhaustive process.

Freveranever, thank you very much for that. I have delighted to report I have no news, neither do the press or TV, and that there is no news. Yet.

RogueLeader, indeed.

My sincere condolences to Bloke-109 for your sad loss. Your story touched a wee nerve and was a lovely tribute. My thoughts are with you tonight.

Thanks also for the skillful editing of Sasa Papac wikipedia entry. A laughed so hard I almost had to order a new inhaler for the asthma. Some of you guys are hilarious, the rest of you are just aw'right.

Looking forward to the TB game at the weekend and hope to see you all there. Is there a football shirt charity donation thingmabob planned for before the game, I recall something similar organized by your club about a year ago? Any info?

RaR

Nonsense , the dogs in the street know Owen Coyle was spoken to over a possible deal. We know Lawell was in London on monday. Whether it was offered (Job) who knows but words were exchanged.

We also know that that there is the possibility of the 'Celtic biscuit tin' getting in the way of progress and advancement.

Christ the PLC board must think we're stupid sometimes. The 'penny-pinching' is the problem and the 'Leeds nightmare bedtime fable' as we'd like to call it isn't going to work this time , a modest deal for a decent Striker (not Fletcher) in January would probably have sewn up 15 million golden pounds for her majesties taxmen to digest before our cut.

We held back a few golden pounds and it has ended up costing us yet again. Yet the jungle drums steadily beat the same story which no Government spin doctors dressed up words will hide this time.

We going for the CHEAP option , somebody will accept the 'Tight Budget' line and take the job , probably McGhee or Leiven.

God help us. Strachan was only part of the problem , he had to suffer for others personal failures to deliver. Better on and off the balance sheet ?

That line will haunt a few for a lifetime. Even our departed Manager has given a veiled warning of what lies ahead. Expect more mediocrity until the PLC get the message that sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate.

No disrespect but 50,000 pound players and free Leroy Lita's are not going to get you a reprieve. A few years of neglect are taking their toll , we're tumbling backwards.

Biscuit Tin is alive a doing extremely well.

Taken for fools CSC.

Paul 67 : No news is good news

Re-read it and still didn't see the faults !!!???

"what their medium-to-long-term goals are" !

I blame the skools !

pablophanque

Slaven Bilic - plays football the right way, has charisma, attitude, an eye for a player, will attract players, and gives the impression of someone who wouldn't be messed with. YES PLEASE - 1st Choice

Owen Coyle - Like Davie Moyes pre- Everton, highly regarded in England, loved by his own fans, has over achieved to date with the clubs he has managed. On the way up, and understands how things work up here. YES PLEASE - 2nd Choice.

Roberto Martinez - An eye for a player, plays fantastic passing fluent football, good enough to be considered by Fergie as his number 2 (as was Davie Moyes). YES PLEASE - 3rd choice.

And for those who complain about managers with no European Experience, MON had 4 games in Europe with Leicester, 3 losses and a draw, WGS had 2 games with Southampton, a draw and a loss. Neither of them had taken their side past the 1st round in Europe and still managed to take Celtic to a previously un-achieved place in Europe. Lack of European experience should not be a problem. David O'Leary has taken a team to the Champions League semi final and the UEFA Cup semi final and please God we wouldn't touch him with a bargepole.

By Big_Liam on May 27, 2009 11:52 PM

exactly

BigChipsUK,

Which one is the new striker?!

Other than the Bluetooth headset thing, which is a complete no no, there is another reason we shouldn't be going for Craig leveeeen. Nobody can spell his name correctly.

Wgs. Good shout with your hunch. The media really have no idea who our nxt manager is + i like that. Lets take our time + appoint someone who can do better than o'neill + strachan - not easy acts to follow.
Whoever takes over has a huge job in front of them. We need a very special individual - be patient + have faith.

67heaven

The Celtic security people refused to allow the song to be sung by a live band in the Kerrydale Suite on Saturday night.

Season Tickets are being returned as a result.

Bougherra and Lafferty both played, Lafferty scored.

Job done.

Why should it be swept under the carpet because Strachan has gone?

SFTB
What we badly need is a board who are in touch with the fans.

Ross A Ranger : Outstanding. I have to be honest here and say that I would not go to a similar event at Ibrox. You are a better man than I.

I hope that yoursef and Edward U enjoyed yourselves on Sunday.

Would love to buy you both a pint sometime.

ggh

Since the dugs in my street are less informed than elsewhere can someone put the following points to theirs.

How much did Celtic offer Owen Coyle as salary and transfer budget and how much more should we have offered?

Did Owen turn it down because it was derisory or because he wanted to manage in the EPL?

Did we make any formal offer or just have exploratory talks as we are having with other candidates?

Bloke_109 1st of all i pass on my deepest sympathy to you, you sound as if you were very lucky to have a father who told you those often forgoten stories of Celtics past history, and he must have been vary happy that you have continued that tradition on. My Father who passed away a number of years ago tried to tell me stories of his team ( them) but i was not interested.

RougeLeader i have no worries that this season coming the SPL, title will be back home. If we kicked of tommorrow with willie Mcstay in charge and the same Squads on both sides of the City i am confident it will be 1iar.
So with a couple new players we will be out of sight of Scotlands shame. We dont really need to pull a rabbit out the bunnet, just a steady hand on the helm Dont worry :)

ST

hail hail all how see. ryan giggs ,ryan giggs ,big roy the bhoy,number two,ryan is cutting is teeth in the sccttish league.with a view, too take over at old traford,with darrren fletcher,as number two 500/1 hailhail

So the media are up to their old tricks again. Reports that Coyle has been in talks with Celtic are rubbished by both the player and Burnley FC. Owen Coyle says he has spoken to nobody from Celtic and neither has anyone at Burnley. So the latest report from the Daily Rectum? - Owen Coyle turns his back on the Celtic job.

Hugh Keevins is telling everyone who'll listen that anyone other than Coyle will be second or third choice, yet Celtic have not even approached the player.

As I said yesterday, there is no doubt in my mind that the new manager won't be appointed until next week, because his current team have an FA Cup Final to play on Saturday.

Those who are still fearful of a McGhee or Levein appointment can rest assured that if it was going to be one of them, the new manager would have been paraded by now.

Bloke_109, sorry to hear your sad news.

I just want to correct what i wrote previously.

I stated that SS was not bitter but asked my source about it again only to be told i'd gotten it mixed up (don't know how that happened?!! lol)...apparently he once mentioned something about there being too many 'taigs' at Airdrie!

It turns out i'm not always right!

Cheers,
D_D

Paul67

So our man was in Rome today. oooooh!

Checked Paddypower just before it went down tonight to see the latest betting. Only to find that Pope Benedict XVI was in the frame at 500/1. My young bhoys fell around the room laughing at the thought. Although must admit I would have him before some the "favourites"!

I wonder if that was PL in a cunning disguise as an Old Hag.

Paul

Well maybe it was after Gordon was announced. Doesn't matter, the principle was about taking care to get the right man for the key job. Still applies.

None of the headlice names so far fit the bill. None of them have the CV of the guy who just left. Not even the best of them.

Paul,

Your man is selling you a pup. A Celtic representative has spoken to Burnley asking to speak to OC about the vacant Celtic managers position. For clarity this is not to say they have identified him as number one or number two choice but a person acting on behalf of Celtic was in talks with Burnley this afternoon.

My source for this is as near to impeccable as you can possibly get.

U2_1888, neither, we already have two strikers. JVoH and Sammy have been stood on the picket line refusing to work for most of the season.

Bono for boss!

paul67
we all know how these things work,you speak to someone off the record so if they knock you back you dont lose face and you then say you never approached them.will the board go back to coyle?i think they will.
am i right in thinking that burnley arent officially promoted until the fixtures come out so if coyle leaves now he wouldnt be entitled to any money.
p.s.part of the team that lost cqn football tournament(shutup michael) when we played hibs,not many teams apart from ourselves were all season ticket holders that day.incase you think im fishing paul.

monteblanco

And how would they show that "in-touch" capacity?

What, specifically and incontrovertibly, have they done wrong in this recruitment drive and who will satisfy the fan base as an appointment?

I fear we'd find fault with Mourinho (well Paul would), Wenger and Hiddink just now.

I give the next guy 6 months, whoever he is, before we want to sack someone again.

67 Heaven - from earlier

You've been there and you know the tragedy of the board over almost 50 years.

I respect your opinion but I fear nothing will change - we are cannon fodder and this board are shopping at Liddel.

The implication of Paul's post is alarming - at a stroke it looks as though we knew WGS was away in January and yet we are scrabbling around the discarded mattresses and jam jars of football looking for someone who will accept our salary and transfer constrainsts.

timetostanduocsc

Owen Coyle - "There has never been an approach from Celtic. It is just people putting 2 and 2 together and making 5."

Burnley - "There has been no approach from Celtic"

Daily Record - "Owen Coyle Declines Celtic Offer To Take Over As Manager"

Daily Mail - "Celtic turn to West Brom manager Tony Mowbray as Burnley boss Owen Coyle counts cost of Parkhead move"

followed neatly by a nice photograph article entitled:
"5 Celts wondeirng about their places for next season" discussing 5 Celtic players and whether or not the unnamed manager would want them.

TotalToshCSC

http://www.theherald.co.uk/sport/headlines/display.var.2510868.0.Decision_time_for_Coyle_over_Celtic_post.php

SydneyTim - I would much rather a rabbit came out of the bunnet than a hand. That would just be weird!

:)

RogueLeader lol sure would be :) Maybe thats why The pope was at 200-1 saw John barnes at 250-1 lol

auldheid (last night)

yer...the financial climate that each and every club finds itself in will most certainly bring the end to silly money being offered to the 'average' player.

Players up until this season whom were simply out of reach due to our wage structure will need to enjoy thier pay day as it may be thier last 'biggie'.

look at middlesboro...
relegated with £90m debt,player on crippling wages?

gretna may be the start of a catalyst? more will follow! i have no doubts! as the banks simply wont savethese troubled clubs as they just cant!!

evidence?

well take a look at the Milan players offering to have thier contracts reduced??? well who would have thought???

Not posted for a while but Paul 67 what a line straight out of the boardroom "No offer was made to either man, no approach has been made to either club, neither man is first or second on any list, which has not been compiled yet".
Lets be honest here and stop playing the spin game, no official offer was made but we made an offer whatever way you want to dress it up. We are back to an age I thought we left behind and oh how we laughed at the huns in January.I have renewed but I fear for us under DD, He wants out just as much as Murray.

That Herald article is the worst and they are really going downhill now.

The headline states "Decision time for Coyle" saying the job is Coyle's if he wants it (with no quotes from Celtic). They then quote Burnley saying no approach made (conveniently not quoting the statement Coyle made at the sametime totally dismissing this as it would get in their way of the story a little bit) and further compound this by saying Owen Coyle may resign to force their hand.

Unbelievable.

Theriotsurvivor,

I totally agree, and if Owen has made such a statement then good on him. I just want the red tops to be shown up for what they are.

Rougeleader

All of this speculative and damaging nonsense is buoyed up by Celtic's complete and utter lack of incisive decision making. The salary/compensation of ANYONE should not be in the public domain. Celtic should have had the whole thing done and dusted before the Sun et al, for God's sake!

It is now clear that we will dip into the penny tray of Managership.

I am quite literally heart broken.

Chick Young is an absolute joke. I remember in the late 90s I was driving home from work along the M8 around 5:30 when, at the end of the BBC Scotland news bulletin, as usual they went over to Chick for the sports round-up.

Enter Chick: I can exclusively reveal that Allessandro del Piero is currently in discussions with David Murray to seal a sentational move to Ibrox.

Turned out to be total pigswill and someone was obviously toying with the clown.

You just have to wonder how these guys - Keevins and the Artur Jorge humiliation - are able to simply get up out of bed the next morning and carry on working as if all is fine and dandy. In any other job you would resign - before being sacked - and walk away with your tail between your legs.

Chick's behaviour yesterday - telling the world that Peter Lawwell had told him certain things - must be bordering on criminal.

Only in Scotland.

Prince Myshkin would not suprise me if PL actually did tell chick things eg its going to be Wenger but keep quiet He and everyone knows he is a buffon, Its times like these where the BBC lags behind sports news because of baffons like him. when will they ever learn

Paul

Youre kidding yourself on if you think no approach has been made, I'm sorry to say.

I know you have good sources as you broke the resignation, but you've been conned on this one. Too much smoke for their not to be fire.

Why did Coyle not come out last night when he had the chance to say he wasnt moving? Why say it tonight after all media report an approach i forthcoming? Its obvious hes been tapped and hasnt liked what he heard.

Incidentally he wouldnt be near my top choice for the job in any case. The board should know if they dont deliver a manager worthy of the support then the fans will not tolerate it. Season ticket numbers are falling and the fans have had enough of being taken for granted.

Over to you Peter. Paul's right about the importance of this appointment.

Big_Liam, are you available for children's parties !!!???

Calm down Big Ghuy ! Let's not light those torches until we've got something to burn eh ???

Might be worth sharpening your pitch-fork right enough :o)))

pablophanque

jinkyredstar - so from this line in Pauls article:

"I understand Celtic have embarked on an extensive recruitment process to fill a crucial role in the future of the club, which is unlikely to be complete in the next few days, or until every eligible candidate has been assessed."

you get:

"All of this speculative and damaging nonsense is buoyed up by Celtic's complete and utter lack of incisive decision making. The salary/compensation of ANYONE should not be in the public domain. Celtic should have had the whole thing done and dusted before the Sun et al, for God's sake!

It is now clear that we will dip into the penny tray of Managership."

1) How is taking the time to get the most crucial appointment at a football club showing a lack of incisive decision making?

2) Who's salary or compensation is in the public domain, considering Celtic have not made any official approaches for a manager? Can I also assume as this sentence is bundled in with a load of attacks on the board that you are blaming somebody at Celtic for leaking these details you refer to?

3) How do you get that we will be dipping into the penny tray of management when nobody has any clue who is being considered for the post?

Dont listen to the papers my friend. They know nothing, this debacle should prove that unequivocally.

Prince Myshkin - I remember that one. I was bricking it until it was proven to be Chick's special brand of dung!

:)

"Thugs and Thieves"

nitol

SFTB

The only time i mentioned the recruitment drive I said the speculation was doing my nut in.

However they could show that "in-touch" capacity by having more open communication with the support.

i.e. explain why "the Fields" is deemed unacceptable in the Kerrydale Suite. Why prudence appears to be more important than success. Why stewards are allowed to eject minors for carrying flags of certain countries/regions, while adults are ignored. What is being done to address the corruption/stone walling in the Hun infested SFA.

I could go on but you get the point, the board are arrogant and aloof and show nothing but contempt for the turnstyle fodder.

(Sorry, now to get back on topic, Craig Laveeen pleeese no!)

prince myskin..you sure it wasnt del piero trying to buy alec cleland??
or was deke trying to give him the admission price to get back into the death star after wonderfully ripping him to shreds??-)

Big Liam - Are you being serious? Owen Coyle was asked at around 6pm on Monday, after the Wembley play-off, if he would be interested in replacing Gordon Strachan at Celtic. His response was that he did not know about Strachan's resignation and had heard nothing and was still with Burnley. Yet you expect us to believe that Peter Laweel suddenly decided on Monday afternoon to fly down to London to have a chat with Coyle?

So you'd rather believe Chick Young, Hugh Keevins and the Dauly Rectum that Owen Coyle and Peter Lawwell.

Why can't people like you just wait and see what the board comes up with instead of sticking the knife in at every opportunity?

Taken for fools CSC you say. Well, you certainly think and talk like one, so if the cap fits, wear it with pride.

If this article saying Celtic have spoken to Coyle is wrong, can Celtic not take action? ?????

Fred C. Dobbs - The BBC's recent penchant for printing rumours verbatim as articles has been annoying me for a while now. They are funded by our licence fee. I want them to report facts. Actual news, not tittle tattle. That is for the red tops.

Fred C. Dobbs - Action can only be taken if someone writes something untrue that is deflamatory. You can't take legal action against a journalist simply for making things up per se, but what you can do is refuse to deal with the reporter in future and even ban the newspaper or TV station from press conferences.

RLeader

1. Any PLC who knew their Manager was going should have had a plan B

2.I don't blame anyone from the board - I imply that information is out there

3. I agree with you - massive frustration on my part - based on a horrible feeling! I don't listen to the papers, unfortunately I listen to experience.

I hope I am wrong and I wish you all the best

Hail hail

pablophanque ,

Just think for once the Board should call a spade a spade. We've 4 years of evidence to conclusively prove that 'Prudence' still is the order of the day.

Last week it bit us all on the backside. On the balance sheet looks good for a Football club but off it we're sliding quickly into a mess which will ruin the balance sheet to get out of it.

Ironic that we all seen it coming whether you admit to it or not.

Your eyes this season didn't deceive you. We're a mess.

And the wee man who just left carried the can for it while other guilty parties escaped out the back door.

Collective responsibility for failure should be the order of the day.

We will not fall for the Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf routine anymore.

Just re-read Paul's article again to confirm my initial thoughts.

Paul states "no offers have been made to ...". He did not say no one from Celtic have spoken to any possible candidate.

There is a big difference in approaching someone to ask would they like to considered for the post and actually offering the post to them.

I worked in the NI Civil Service and was lucky enough to be promoted a few times before I moved here to Cork. The first step in the process was for me to advise my line manager that I actually wished to be considered for an interview, that was a long way off actually geting an interview or even getting the promotion.

The abuse being dished out to the Board based on laptop loyal guff is truly laughable. They have their faults and bear a lot of responsibility for losing out on 4iar but lets not beat them with a stick of the laptop loyals making without at least giving them a chance to appoint someone. Gordon Strachan only resigned on Monday, an immediate appointment would have frightened me more in respect of motives and actions since January than taking the time to get the right person in.

jinkyredstar - I came on here in February and said that Strachan had told the board in December that he would be leaving at the end of the season, which was the main reason for the lack of January transfer activity. I was laughed at then, which is fair enough. Now poster after poster on here the last few days is claiming that it is obvious Strachan told the board in December/January that he was leaving.

Believe me, Lawwell and the board have been making plans for some time. That is why stories leaked about Smuda and Moyes well before the end of the season.

My money is definitely on Moyes.

RougeLeader, Prince Myshkin,

Point taken, but can Celtic not "call these people out" and ask them to explain themselves?

Fred C Dobbs

I think you can take what meaning you like from the lack of said action, but its pretty definite that none will be taken.

I have no doubt no direct approach has been made, but contact undobyedly has, as Coyle has too many friends in the media not to have given the nod to them, hence why the tory is practically everywhere today.

Lawell can spin it as much as he likes.

Prince Myshkin ,

Lawwell was in London start of this week before he flew to Rome. He did speak either directly or indirectly to Coyle thats a given and I'd doubt it was at 6pm as you suggest.

Believe what you want , that's your decision.

But hey don't accuse me of believing a daily rag when you think we're hiring Davie Moyes!

Prince myskin

Why then was Coyle so ambiguos last night when asked live on Sky about the celtic job?

Why not nail the rumour then and there? Your chip on the shoulder about the Scottish press shouldnt cloud you from the fact that our chief executive spins some tall tales just like they do.

ben and Payluchenko anyone?

If you dont believe that then you are the one who is naive.

Sydney Tim - There was a message for you from Tom McLaughlin in the last thread. Did you see it?

Big_Liam, I'm no board apologist and I could post on here for the next two hours on how let-down I've been since Desmond White !!!

These people aren't stupid. They will know what the ramifications will be financially if they get this wrong ! Well at least I hope they do ! And that's it, neither you or I know what they know or what they're thinking, so why not just wait and see what happens eh ???

pablophanque

Celtic is my team,

Do you honestly believe our board would be so slipshod? I have my doubts.

sorry should have posted this earlier..

sent a text on monday to a guy who would have been delighted to see the back of wgs to say that he was leaving..

response..

typical of that wee c...thought he might have stayed till the TB match was over..

you couldnt make it up..

...no matter how bad things maybe there's always somebody worse off than you. A Newcastle supporting mate, was tellling me tonight that they're stuck with Xisco on a six year contract at 50k a week!!

Wonder how many pairs of Terry towelling socks, wee Denis Wise bought with his (ahem) commission out of that deal?

Anyway, the managerial guessing game - I said it before earlier tonight and I'm going to keep saying it until something concrete comes out....

The great Frank Zappa once said "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read"

Is fitba journalism much different?

Kingoh - Thanks for the news about John Clark. Never heard about the doo.

Fred C Dobbs

I believe they would yes. Coyles a known celtic fan and would jump at the chance to manage the club, as any of us would.

Given the boards current strategy of milking the fans for every penny and giving as little as they can get away with in return, why wouldnt they try and get Coyle on the cheap.

Why change the habit of the last 4 years, its what they do, take the piss out of celtic fans.

Coyle could just be added to the list of 52000 season ticket holders who have been shafted over the last 4 seasons.

It seems Celtic have not made Owen Coyle an official offer.
As they can't, as they've not approached his current employers yet.
But I would be very surprised if at least one senior Celtic representative is not involved in ongoing chats with Owen Columba Coyle about what he would be looking for in relation to personal terms, transfer budget and total wages for the squad.
Given that Celtic's season ticket sales for next term have been alarmingly bad (the Strachan Effect), he may well have been given figures that will have shocked him.
But given that the appointment of the right candidate may go a long way to filling all those empty spaces, there is certainly room for manouevre.
And, given our debt-free situation, some room for an element of "speculate to accumulate".

Owen Coyle is the right man in the right place at the right time for Celtic.
St Johnstone and Burnley? Heck, we once hired a man who had only managed Dunfermline and Hibs.

(:-0)

hello paul67, 2nd time on here good site information spot on .ryan giggs is coming too celtic,swalex,recommend.hail,hail how dae a know well mmmmmmm

I think too many Celtic fans are letting themselves get carried away with media hype. Gordon Strachan resigns on Monday and every Celtic fan is excited and hopeful as they wonder and guess who will be his replacement.

It is now the early hours of Thursday and still no manager, while in the intevening days, the media have been running around in circles, speculating wildly, and in some cases telling downright lies, and a few Celtic supporters voice their disappointment at the Board and Peter Lawwell, based on all the lies and speculation.

Come on everyone, get a grip. Let's wait until the new manager is paraded and then we can all celebrate, or vent our spleens, as the case may be.

Celtic fans listening to what Chick Young, Hugh Keevins and the Daily Record say? - Lord help us all.

P Myshkin

I remember your posts re WGS going.

Certainly the team played from Christmas to last Sunday on a downer.

Davy Moyes was the man - a long time ago but I fear he is too well ensconced in the EPL - and more likely, after tonight, tom go to Man U.

The boards credibility vanishes with the delay - are we waiting to see if Everton win the FA Cup?

I say again - if any Board of Directors knew their Manager was going as far back as January then there should have been a contingency plan....otherwise they will be searching around amongst the Swizzles on the 'Penny Tray'

hopeimwrongcsc

Prince Myshkin - 12:45 AM

Did he not sign a 5 yr contract extension recently?

Just in lads Dont know if this has been posted.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2009/05/27/owen-coyle-declines-celtic-offer-to-take-over-as-manager-86908-21394328/

If its not true (according to Paul)....red tops seriously on wrong path. Howevvah, it would appear something in it and we could have had our first knock-back. Hopefully not.

Celtic is my team,

You say "Coyles a known celtic fan and would jump at the chance to manage the club"

Why would we not use the proper channels to approach him then?

man u loooked like Celtic tonight, anybody think it's the future? keeping the ball no matter how boring it looks?

ferdo..owen got his supporters on this blog like Terry O..and a few others..

flanders finishes the phone in with the plea"owen switch yer phone on.."

Canamalar

Keeping the ball all night with every player comfortable, good first touch, looking for forward passes, with people that can run quickly and shoot at goal. Was a joy. Thought the match also highlighted how one-dimensional UK style football can be when defensive energy is unable to negate the artistry of the latin/continental-european approach. The Xavi/Iniesta combo is poetry in motion.

Spartim - 11.11:

"I'd really like to see celtic plc put these buggers in their place..."

With you up to there.

"...its a dying industry lets get them put down"...

Come on. These are people with families. Some of them even post on here.

Mes que un club, eh?

prince......,
I would be shocked if PL was doing anything else then gathering his new managers requirements for the new campaign. 3 in a row is his target and if he fails he is and was never good enough eh eeeh.
good, lucky, who knows eh?

Fred C Hobbs

In football very few clubs use 'the proper channels'.

Its less embarassing if you're knocked back, like its obvious we were, if you can say"no official approach has been made...yada yada"

Doesnt alter the fact contact has been made in my opinion. It goes on all the time.

Awalkacross

My "hopefully not" wasn't in reference to wishing that we havent approached Coyle. More that if an offer has been made (which Paul refutes) then I hope we havent had a knock back. Overall, I think our aspirations should be higher than Owen, I think we can still offer a post to attract top calibre from across Europe [if we wanted to]. However, if its to be a non-ambitious, non-innovative approach to recruiting a manager, ie the Levein Mowbray McGhee market - then I would go for Oweny.

By pauloantony on May 28, 2009 12:12 AM

Can you clarify?

My hope since the crunch began to impact has been that player wages would fall.

Are you saying that evidence is beginning to emerge? (Milan)

I do hope so, otherwise the banks are not doing their jobs (again).

Celtic is my team,

You just told us Owen was a Hoops fan who would jump at the chance to join us! Why would he knock us back?

Prince Myshkin thanks just went back and found it, wanted to ask him if his source was till active???

tho saw he touted Mcgee, then Keane then Coyle

I have news now up on my pc funny how the Name changes every time page is refreshed. latest is "Coyle hoops to take celtic job" The hun ( though i dont open the link as against my better judgment) and PARKHEAD managerial target Owen Coyle last night urged Burnley to let him open talks with daily Express.

Someone sometime will print the true story and it will take us a few days to realise it is true

ST

Fredo...,
agree, but thought, we've got the ball was a good thing? never realised Pele was our biggest critic, he's right we must improve or we'll end up in some little backwater that'll change the rules to suit themselves eh

Big Liam - Lawwell was in London start of this week before he flew to Rome. He did speak either directly or indirectly to Coyle thats a given and I'd doubt it was at 6pm as you suggest.

I know Lawwell was in London at the start of the week. He flew down on Monday afternoon AFTER Strachan's resignation was announced.

Burnley v Sheffield United at Wembley kicked-off at 3pm on Monday. At a post-match press conference, Coyle was asked if he was interested in replacing Gordon Strachan at Celtic. Coyle was surprised at the news that Strachan had resigned and was categorical in stating that he knew nothing about a job at Celtic and that he was manager of Burnley.

So, you claim to know that Lawwell spoke to Coyle on Monday. When exactly? When I said 6pm I assumed that would be the earliest he would have been able to get to him, given the 3pm kick-off at Wembley.

Are you seriously saying that Gordon Strachan resigned at 3pm Monday and at that point, Peter Lawwell thought, "Oh my word, I better go and find a replacement. I know. I'll fly to London and speak to Owen Coyle."

Get real man.

And my believing it might be David Moyes is purely my own gut feeling and has nothing to do with what I read in the Daily Record.

oiche mhaith mo charas....not seen dj pablo on the boards so wee tune to sign off on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3snIlqDf_ug

monteblanco

Sorry for the delay in replying. I was called out on emergency taxi duty for one of my kids.

I see we are at cross purposes. I thought we were getting at the board because the redtops were gossiping about our business.

On your issue of singing in the Kerrydale Suite, I'm all for it. I don't know what the board rules are here but, what you report makes us look like we have double standards towards some songs.

The other points re turnstyle fodder are a debate for another day. I'm off to my kip.

ferdo..the higher the better..then work down..just when you posted the flanders bit..he obviously has no idea what happening when hes begging OC to put the phone on..

we all have our own fancies for the job(houllier/willie mcs..sammer-lambert/sven or moyes would be mine)..but its a gig that many in or out of work would kill for..however whether the appointment is favoured by you or not would urge everyone to unite behind the new man and give him every support..

THE FIGHTBACK STARTS NOW

here wee go again season tickets £500 ryan giggs player manager like a son too sir alex mainman has uefa badges takes big roy too the holy grail he and him reunite the support gamble on the two off them 500/1 2 quid season tickets sorted hail hail big desmond owes us but dont bet on his exchange grand old team too bet for if you dont you will be kickin ure self hail hail the holy grail

jinkyredstar - The boards credibility vanishes with the delay

Are you serious?

Strachan resigned on Monday and you are questioning the board's credibility because a replacement hasn't been paraded 2 DAYS LATER.

Sydney Tim - Yes I saw him touting different managers but I'm sure he didn't claim to have inside info on this.

Did Tom have a contact before? Who was it?

prince.....,
we lost the league, and we're still top of the pops, what more do you want from PR FFS
Amatures wait.

Prince Myshkin He must have had a contact before, He said MON was leaving at end of season 2004 becuase of his wife and Gordon was to become manager( a fully 12 months before it happened) He was also right about Gravesen. So he must have a source a very good one or has that source left?? I think the latter :(

ST

Sydney Tim - I suppose he must have had a good source right enough. Maybe he's really Martin O'Neill :)

Prince Myshkin na unless he flys from gold coast to birmingham every monday morning, was actually thinking it was hartson

I look forward to the team being in place for the manager, Mcgeady maloney caldwell mcmanus nakamura thanks for the blessing, no even close, I'm a diehard. ha.
Who would have thought the board would have told the supporters GIRUY, GS walks away for a holiday and is requested to come back cause we didny think. My choice is

Gordon Strachan

The chances are Celtic knew at Christmas that this was Strachan's last season. I was told then it was the case but had no means of knowing how accurate the info was. However looking at how it all went pear shaped since, it probably was true.

In that case Celtic would have started looking at options and I doubt that Owen Coyle's name would have been anywhere near the top of the list. It has been propelled there by his gaining promotion to the EPL but he is unlikely to be the first one Celtic would approach, so whilst he may have been sounded out it is unlikely he is first choice.

We all love Celtic.

Love is patient(Corinthians 13)

Infinite patience produces immediate results (if you let it.)

modern patients are a pain in the arse

I have a dream.

Some time next week, Peter Lawwell will hold a press conference and introduce David Moyes as the new manager, who will then, ten minutes later, introduce Marc Janko as his first signing.

Ok I'll get my coat :)

the black magic box eh?
Gordon Strachan is the only men who can sort it. aaaaya

permission to panic captain manwering

talking of dreams wot if celtic knew strachan was going in say january and they offerd the job to guss hiddink and thats the reason he cant stay on at chelski, like i said wot a dream eh

trying to make everybody the same, the managers job. Dont feed insecurity, simple you'd think eh?

Ferdo Kev et al

Here are ten random facts.

Fact 1.
The Daily Record, a known bottom feader in the murky dwelling 4th estate and cynic of all things Celtic runs a story designed to sell papers in a news frenzied (frienzied? wrong word Keith. Ed.) time for Celic fans.

Fact 2.
There are no direct quotes but they do have a source.

Fact 3.
This source has provided dozens if not 100's of accurate gems about us all season.

Fact 4.
Fact three is a mistake.

Fact 5.
The chances of anything about Celtic being 'broken' (nice!) on the Daily Ret are as misguided as a man who believes that Hilaire Belok is still alive. (yes I've used that before but it happens to be a personal fav.)

Fact 5.
Fail, fail again, fail better. We don't care if we ....... It was the manner in which we won it that........

Fact 6.
I live in the USA now after spending my formative years in Glasgow.

Fact 7.
I do not miss the Rangers Rags that used to sadly adjourn every shelve in every store I entered (Sorry Borders and Waterstones) and would rather you didn't post the temptation right in front of me. Like a scab I tell you, you just gotta scratch and then............

Fact 8.
We are in better shape in terms of squad, board, playing staff and anything you want to throw in, than Rangers, the rest of Scotland and dare I say the majority of EPL teams.

Fact 9.
Losing the league is over and down with. We can now look forward to the pleasure of taking it back off them. Remember how good that feels?

Fact 10.
We are but a puppy in terms of our generation of dominance.

Fact 10.1
My name (TheSpecialOne) above is a link to a market changing Virtual Machine not to a striker we are about to sign nicknamed MaxV

I just said that

two prince myshikin 3.00pm ryan giggs u heard it first cant go wrong my mhan dream know more

There's an interesting article on ETims - http://www.etims.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2563&Itemid=2.

They claim

* We've spoken to Burnley requesting permission to speak to Coyle - NOT requesting to appoint him as manager - but that we haven't agreed a compensationfigure with them, which they've made a prerequisite for said permission.

* We spoke to Bilic last week, he interviewed well, wants the job and is actively under consideration. The deal is complicated by Croatia's remianing WC qualification (and possibly finals) commitments.

* Finally, we're apparently planning to ask on Sunday for permission to speak to Davie Moyes, and are willing to pay a £3M buy-out clause if he's willing to come.

Tony Mowbray's name is nowhere to be seen, but the article does tie in with Paul's information, i.e. that we're only starting the process of identifying candidates. Downsizers will presumably scoff at the Moyes rumour.

If so, that surely indicates that GS's decision to leave was a fairly recent one - and means we're not going to be short of something to talk about for the next few weeks.

NeilR -

Cheers for the info but it amounts to nothing more than the Rags speculation, does it not?

NeilR,
Etims ha ha ha
twitchin like kittens whiskers, such single minded pomposity, who needs balance eh? reasonable arguments

good night and god bless kano and his loved ones

Last?

Good he is gone, so anyway about Bilic, i have not really thought about him. One advantage of him would be to bring in Croats. Would be far better than the dross SPL we have been signing recently.

ST

A Wee Tune for Chick, Shug, and all the other Journos regarding...

The Boss

UNICEF or AIG?
Nae contest.

ST(from 24 hours ago)
Yes I was at the Parlour, early morning shift.
Followed by a defiant & rousing wake in the basement before lunchtime...

oh what a shame eh, If miller had signed that contract in 2009 he would still have been in the 1st team

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/miller-eyes-move-after-tough-year-92801.html

PJBhoynyc was it our game on? In OZ the only showed the huns.

there were huns in our bar that night there clearly to wind us up, they have their own bar, slightly outwith the CBD as they have been thrown out all the CBD bars

Anther person to be added to the FF banned list(if he is not already on it) Ross McCormack has stated" he would be tempted with a move to celtic as i have always had a soft spot for them and i supported them as a kid" Defo on the list now mate and after playing for them also!

PJ i remember that basement bar in the parlour, so hard to get up those stairs after 8 pints of porters :)

The Parlour had the smallest screen in a faraway corner showing the game at Tannadice..
Which was switched off early..
Then the band played on loudly....

Was introduced to a bhoy called Dennis Bonner from Dundee i think. His son had won a trip to the Parlour.
Sad ending but he was well looked after....

Hun free zone.
Blessed that I am.

I used to drink in The Parlour during a stint in NYC.

Great times.

I remember having a kip in the basement bar in the middle of a day-long drinking session.

PJBhoynyc ah wished i lived in City with such a good CSC, perfect PUB for it also. God your summers are hot there are they not, i stood in times square in July 2000 and i could have cut the humidity with a knife. I have promised my Wife will take here there on her 40th Bday ( a good few years to go yet). NYC used to be a short 7 hr flight from my home city of Glasgow

Not now :( 12 to LA plus another 6 to NYC

But cant wait till i stroll down its fine avenues again
One belongs to New York instantly, one belongs to it as much in five minutes as in five years

you are indeed a lucky man

ST

Sydney Tim - 7 hours from Glasgow to NYC? When was that? It's only a maximum 5 hours surely.

I know what you mean about NYC. I felt I belonged there after a couple of days and I still miss it. By the same token, I have raved about it to people setting out for their first visit to the Big Apple, and often they come back and say they hated it. It's one of those places - you either love it or hate it. You either fit right in or you feel uncomfortable. Maybe it depends on whether you go with an open mind, or listen to all the bullshit that some people spout about it being a dangerous place - "don't look up at the skyscrapers" and "don't look strangers in the eye" and all that nonsense. Complete and utter tripe.

Like you, I hope to get back soon for a visit.

ST
Aye its a wonderful place..
Oddly enough I had no notion to even visit here...
Never appealed. Arrived by accident.
Now I do not know if I could ever leave.
And you know what it is really odd, all they Irish flags hanging outside bars...
and it doesn't bother a soul.

A wee song for your mrs when you fulfill your promise...

Followed by one for Ghordon ;0)

G'Night.

Roll On The CLARION CALL OF INTENT...

Prince Myshkin via LHR of course, was never lucky enough to get on a direct flight from Glasgow. Spent 4 17th of march's there plus one summer weekend :)

Its a city where i just loved to walk and walk and look and listen, fabulous place. Loved the bars, you could just go into a bar and end up talking to someone within minutes.
Sydney nowhere like it, You could have a heart attack in a bar and no one would notice,

PJ like you i ended up somewhere by accident, but its nice to be content and happy somewhere far from your origins :) but as always keep your roots and hoops :))))

PS Thank god for Setanta, i hear stories of Guys here 20 years ago and they would receive a Video cassette from a friend back home and they would all gather round to watch a Celtic game from a few weeks back. That would drive me bonkers. No funny comments MC

ST

UPDATE: Celtic Rumors Twitter Feed says “Coyle’s mum says deal is done.” They were first to say that Celtic and Coyle were negotiating, so could this mean the deal is done?

Looks like we have are man,...

To be unveiled before he goes on hoiday on saturday.

Living the Dream,.... does he know a good 3-5-2?

Look out for the 5 o'clock press conference,...

.

Prince....Sydney....PJ....

Do You Lot Never Sleep....:O)

001WhosBeenOnThePhone2OzAllNightCSC

To Be....or Not To Be....That is the Question....001

It's only 3 o'clock in the afternoon mate :)

We're Aussies. Except PJ who is in New York.

Faithful through and through (but a bit open to manipulation !) Celtic consumers having carried out the 'old media' and 'malcontents' agenda by making working conditions impossible for hounding out previous successful manager now wake up and realise the fun and games which will ensue for rivals and old media as the club seek to appoint a successor.

The kind of rumour mongering and leaks which were apparent back in the 'bad old days' have resurfaced as every taxi driver seems to know the 1st supposed target's family personally and as a result the club sees it's supposed business played out in public and thereby further weakening it's position and making the support feel cheated and scorned as the farcical anti Celtic agenda gains momentum with the old media.

This seems like the kind of pantomime most Celtic fans want, it gives them another stick to beack the club with, another axe to grind, something else to moan about. We are reaping as we sowed, half seem against the Coyle option many are against Mowbray, who knows where the club will actually go ? You can bet they well get dogs abuse wherever it is from a significant proportion of support, and all this 'wont renew my book' crap will come to the fore again.

My thoughts are that I hope many malcontents don't.

Why can folk not accept that the club is trying to make an important appointment in a proper and professional manner. My biggest worry yesterday was that we were not doing that and seeking short term cheap solution with this chap. We may still end there but rushing this one makes no sense and being held to ransom by the old media and our own consumers makes even less sense.

Prince Myshkin speak your self, Glaswegian and proud of it, i am only off the boat 3 years now. Where are you? and are you going to see the hoops in Brizze in July i have my ticket alraedy :)

Burnley'78 as long as the New manager does not lose the league to Crisis hit huns and his team actually have attempts at Goal when up against Clubfoot and Weir then he will get thumbs up from me :))))

ST

Burnley'78 - Absolutely spot on.

Some Celtic fans on here are expressing great disappointment because TWO WHOLE DAYS after Strachan's resignation the board STILL HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED HIS REPLACEMENT. I kid you not!

What is truly galling is the number of supporters who are attacking the board and Peter Lawwell ON THE BACK OF MEDIA HYPE AND WILD SPECULATION.

One poster has even said "Lawwell will spin it to suit himself" yet not a single criticism of the media spin that is all too evident.

I challenged one poster - Big Liam - about his totally unjustified attack on Peter Lawwell and his answer was to accuse me of having a chip on my shoulder about the media. Again I kid you not!

The likes of Keevins and Traynor and Young must be reading these threads and rubbing their hands with glee.

It is cringeworthy and embarrassing.

Burnley'78

Well said. Nontheless after due professional process I still want it to be Mr David Moyes.

Kojo has agreed that he is The Real Deal. If the monetary obstacles can be overcome ( and this is the biggest obstacle...but with Bobo and JVOH of the wage bill) then we need to sell him the vision.

Kojo...the fact? that he once supported Rangers and that his family still do bears no relevance in the criteria of appointing the next Celtic manager. I want them to want to be successful and thereby Celtic be successful. That is the only synergy I seek.

If there is a golden nugget that better fits all the criteria than Mr Moyes that comes forth through due process then so be it.

Sydney Tim - I am in Caloundra on the Sunshine Coast. I certainly will be going to the Brisbane Roar v Celtic game. Unfortunately I will not make the get-together next weekend due to a prior committment. Should be a great occasion.

Last night Coyle said: "I am going on holiday with my family this weekend and I can assure you I will be doing so as Burnley manager."

I can Remember always Davids Moyes Brother Kenny, he remained a Hun even after David dropped going to Rangers games, I think his Dad was a Coach at Partick thistle boys club.

Now if we did not have a manager within 3 weeks, i would then not be too happy, but you are right Burnley/prince its only 4 days now so no need to get worried, It wont really take a tactical genuis to win the League next season anyway.

ST

Hhhmmmmm...

Not quite sure what to make of all this.

Paul67, I listened to you on the celticundergound podcast a number of weeks back. Did you not say something along the lines of that if Celtic weren't already aware of potential outstanding managerial candidates somebody wasn't doing their job properly?

The board should have already identified potential managers BEFORE Strachan quit and it should now be a case of deciding on the right man and going and getting him.

To my mind (if a bona fide genuine top class manager is not available) we should be trying to identify the next big thing in British or European fitba (Coyle?? / Bilic??) and doing all we can to get him in. I understand thought that this is not easy and full of risks.

If that proves too difficult, then an experienced older manger and a younger assistant with the potential to take over should be our next option (Hitzfeld & Lambert / Hodgson & McStay etc).

I worry that our extensive recruitment process will follow similar lines to our recruitment of players, eg- we search the world for a left back and end up with Naylor, or need a new striker and end up bidding for Fletcher.

If the process takes 3 or 4 weeks and we end up with McGhee / Levien / Mowbary as manager then a lot of people are gonna be very angry.

Of the names mentioned so far my preference would be...

1. Moyes
2. Coyle
3. Bilic
4. Hitzfeld
5. Hodgson

Hail Hail

FTS

ftsimpson - The board should have already identified potential managers BEFORE Strachan quit and it should now be a case of deciding on the right man and going and getting him.

Fair comment, but what makes you think the above is not what is already happening?

Prince Myshkin,

It could well be happening and I hope it is. I just worry that our extensive recruitment process will take 3 or 4 weeks and we end up with somebody we could've got in a day, eg - McGhee, Levien etc...

Hail Hail

FTS

My tuppence worth on the Coyle speculation. I was told several weeks ago that Coyle was No.1 choice to replace Strachan if he left. I was told this again at the end of last week and that talks had taken place (not necessarily direct talks but via agents etc). The reason given for Coyle being No.1 choice was his ability to build a team on the cheap, i.e. there will be no significant budget for any new manager. I wasn't told Coyle had accepted (verbally, off the record or whatever) but that he was interested. I was told all of this by someone i trust and i know that this person has contacts in te etop room at CP.
What you're reading in the media is pure speculation, however much as i dislike Keevins (all of his type in fact), he is close to Coyle so i wouldn't automatically say he is talking nonesense on this one like i normally would.
Given the choice i would rather make David Moyes an offer he can't refuse, but given current financial restrictions this is unlikely to happen unless there's a change of strategy.

Ferdo Kev - 1:16 AM

"The Xavi/Iniesta combo is poetry in motion."

Best bit of commentary last night was late in 2nd half when whoever was whittering on said, "Iniesta, who would have thought he would have such an impact?" !!

Interesting article on ETims re: the next manager. Personally I don't see what the problem with Bilic doing the Croatia and Celtic jobs for a short time is- Hiddink managed it at Chelsea, and all the games coincide with an international break.

Bloke 109 - my sympathy to you and yours will keep you all in my prayers.

Thanks for sharing your wonderful memories with us

anybody who is a regular on here knows i have been critical of our CEO this year, but in my view any criticism of him regarding a replacement manager at this stage is wrong...

Celtic have to go through a proper process of evaluation and check the background of any potential candidates. That will involve the use of a company like Kroll Associates, who are a risk consulting company, who will advise if there are any skeletons in the cupboard that could be embarrassing if revealed

Lets say a manager has a gambling addiction, or some other inappropriate social problem.....that may not be public knowledge, and could only be ascertained by investigation.....that is even more important if you are considering a manager from outside the UK, where your own contacts might be able to mark your card

our new man will be responsible for managing a £40 million a year budget, and hopefully a healthy transfer budget as well....you can't just jump in and pick the latest hot name and make an offer in 10 minutes

the club need to act promptly, but they need also to be thorough and consider all of the options and do proper due diligence

the idea that there is a shred of truth in the story that Coyle rejected the job because A)..the budget was too small, B)...his wife doesnt like glasgow and C)... he wont get his bonus from burnley...is nothing short of laughable

The CEO is i believe doing his job properly here......we are a PLC not a street corner paper shop......

I remember Martin O'Neill successfully suing the Record for reports saying he had been in talks with a club (was it Leeds?).

Sorry, but I'm in the 'no smoke without fire' camp on this one. As far as I'm concerned, there have been too many reports based on strong sources for me to believe the board on this one.

Celtic have been snubbed and we are slowly waking up to the reality that we are not that attractive a proposition as we think.

Would you leave a newly promoted EPL club, where you were on a positive trajectory and enjoyed a great relationship with the chairman and the fans, to manage, say, Porto or Panathanaikos?

up-over-goal,

ultimately, you might be right. but i don't see any evidence to back up your claim that we "have been snubbed".

do you believe keith jacksie?

Just in from the nightshift and heading to bed, just thought I would mention that I just saw on sky sports news that Christian Gross was sacked by Basel last night after 10yrs at the club.

Worth a look ? Plenty experiance winning trophys on a budget plus champions league pedigree.

Off to bed now to dream of white smoke

From E-Tims

There’s been a lot of talk about the managers job, maybe too much talk. But this manager is a rebel manager, Slaven, Slaven Bilic.

We’ve been sent quite a bit of info over the past few days from various sources under various guises telling us they know for definite who the next Celtic manager is. We are still counting the number but to date we’ve reached 44 with the number still rising by the minute and thought it about time we got the finger out of our backsides and shared some gossip and general chatter outwith the ETims Rumour Mill which will be issued over the next few days.

First getting to the easy part. What we can guarantee you 100% is that a person representing our esteemed football club was in talks with Burnley yesterday asking for permission to speak to Coyle about the Celtic managers position. For crystal clarity, this does not mean for one second he was going to be offered the role but like many others was merely being sounded out to assess if he was interested in becoming the next Celtic manager. Forget all nonsense that Coyle was offered the job, that Coyle turned down the job and that our club has not approached Burnley. He wasn’t, he hasn’t and we did but Burnley asked for compensation agreement as a pre-requisite in advance of any discussions and as of the present time we have not gone back to them with a figure.

Now onto the perhaps unknown news. A friend of the site who has passed on some good info in the past contacted us on Tuesday afternoon with some interesting information. He informed us representatives from Celtic held talks with Slaven Bilic last week to understand if he would be interested in the Celtic managers role.

The Croatian manager made it clear in no uncertain terms he would love the job but there is a hurdle to be overcome on Celtic’s behalf for this ever to become a reality. Slaven is not only coach of the Croatian national team but is about as patriotic a coach as anyone is ever likely to come across and is not willing to leave his country in the lurch during the middle of qualifying for next summers World Cup Finals.

He has made it clear it would be an honour to manage Celtic but he can only commit to do this full-time from the end of October this year as this ties in with the conclusion of Croatia’s World Cup qualifying campaign. If Croatia fail to qualify he will be full-time with immediate affect but if Croatia qualify they would only have a handful of friendlies to take care of over the following eight months with most of those taking place at the end of the domestic club season and in preparation for the World Cup.

The question facing the Celtic board is, if Bilic ticks all the boxes they want are they willing to take the risk of entering a Champions League qualifying campaign and the first three months of the new season without a new manager in place and face the certain wrath of a section of our support and those blaggards in the media should results not go our way? Or are Celtic able to negotiate a deal with the Croatian FA that will allow Bilic to move into the Celtic Park hotseat after Croatia’s match against the Ukraine on June 6th and give him over two months to purchase new players, take control of the pre-season schedule and early fixtures of the new campaign before taking over Croatia’s game against Belarus on August 19th?

There would also only be three more internationals to play, two in September and one in October and most if not all of them coincide with Scotland fixtures and hence a domestic break for international football and no club games.

It’s clear Bilic is desperate for the role with his agent ex-Celt Rudi Vata making all the correct noises and more but what is also clear is if Slaven is the man the board want – and we hear Celtic’s representatives were highly impressed during discussions - there is a fair bit of negotiation required with the Croatian FA should they want this deal to go ahead.

We have also been informed this evening that an approach to Everton will be made on Sunday asking for permission to speak to Davie Moyes.

We understand Moyes has a £3m buy-out clause in his contract and if given permission to speak to him and Moyes is deemed to be the best choice and willing to come the club will pay the figure concerned.

Snubbed not snubbed who cares. Lets just be thankful that he's not our manager.

Paul67, you sound like Chick Dung - "I understand..." :)

Last time Celtic "embarked on an extensive recruitment process" Dr Jo Venglos took over...

I see Christiano Ronaldo is saying Man Utd got their tactics wrong in the final last night. I remember 30 years ago Pele saying the team who controls the ball controls the game. I thought Barca were fantastic and no matter whether they had a makeshift defence, small players, lean midfield etc the fact was they got the ball and kept it.
I figure if your opposition has got the ball and keeps it the way Barca did it dont really matter what your tactics are so chin up Christiano fact was the best football team won!!

Gary 67, doesn't tie up with Bilic's agent Rudi Vata (who is playing this weekend) stating that they have contacted Celtic on numerous occasions pleading to speak about the manager's job and no one has replied?

Paul67, I think we have all been in this game long enough to say that no one can categorically say we did or didn't make an approach for Burnley. These negotiations are carried out through agents, advisors etc.

As for any job in any business, you will sound out various candidiates using a variety of contacts. There can be a big difference between "turning down an offer" and "turning down an approach". Huge huge big difference.

And remember that in the past, the board have pursued one target and DD went with someone else.

One thing I would say that looks clear from this is that WGS hadn't notified the board in advance of his departure. Maybe he feels let down by them not supporting him in January and this is his way of some revenge to drop them in it just as they were preparing for their family holidays?

Keevins and Walker are very very close to Coyle.

I agree with b2k. Just glad he is not to be our manager. Maybe sometime but not now. I know E-Tims mock their own rumours but I hope that they are right that Bilic and Moyes are in the front rank.

The last 24 hours are what we are going to put up with. Rumours stated as fact that when proven wrong produce another rumour non fact. definite appointment and then rejection. One of the reasons given for Coyle accepting the job was that he would "treble his wages", now one of the reasons given for rejecting is lost "bonuses". Apart from the obvious contradiction, he would have achieved whatever bonus target this season and would have new targets for next year which he might not achieve.

Whitedoghunch

Are you up fr lunch with me and Dany tomorrow. We'll pick you up. Just eave a message on hereif you fancy it. Or give me a call number is in the book

Cheers

MB

Bilic may be the cheerleader / sell tickets appointments but he does not have the credentials to be Celtic Manager. Remember the criticism O'Neill / Strachan got for watching a few games at a summer tournament, never mind managing a team at one! It's one thing accepting a managerial genuis like Guus Hiddink on a part time basis but not a novice. Not on my list, or anywhere near it.

Malcolm,

Is that the same Dr Jo who signed

Mjallby
Moravcik
Viduka
Riseth (who we sold on for over £1m)

Dr Jo is one of the most unfairly maligned managers of Celtc. We sacked him and then gave Barnes a fortune to spend on the likes of Berkovic and Scheidt. I'm pretty sure if Dr Jo had been kept on and given the same funds as Barnes he would have imrpoved the team greatly.

The man is greatly respected throughout Europe and was treated terribly by the media (and a large section of the Celtic support) in his time at Celtic.

up_over_goal

As far as I'm concerned, there have been too many reports based on strong sources for me to believe the board on this one.

Would you mind revealing who these strong sources are?

Mort

By Malcolm on May 28, 2009 8:40 AM
Last time Celtic "embarked on an extensive recruitment process" Dr Jo Venglos took over...

and the only thing wrong with the appointment was that it took so long to get him that he had no time to work with the team ahead of the start of the season, had he been brought in even a few weeks earlier then losing teh league to a good huns team by only 4 points may have been a league championship win.
Timeliness is very important and we shouldn't be waiting any longer than the end of next week for our new boss

Danny Boyle, Blaser-Brown and Charlie Donnelly on May 28, 2009 9:00 AM

Well Said. Dr Jo was a much maligned figure in Scottish football, mainly via the red tops in this country. He deserves enormous credit and is/was well regarded throughout Europe.

Dr Jo was not sacked, he gave the job up due to ill health.

Mort
"Would you mind revealing who these strong sources are?"

I`ll bet you he cannot.......but I am `guessing` you won`t take that bet !!

The sooner we get ourselves a manager, the sooner the media .... and, sadly,some of our own supporters .............can back to slagging our manager.

Maybe we could have CQN sweepstake to predict what the media line will be. He is too flippant? He is too sombre? He is too old/young? He is too Celtic minded? He is ............ ?

I think a Bilic/Lennon partnership could be the dream team for us!

If BSB comes in he'll need someone who knows the SPL, knows the squad and has been in CL so NL would be my bet for that roll.

However if Lenny didn't want the job or follows WGS to where ever he ends up, I think Paul Lambert would be another good choice.

/Bishop B

No disrespect to Owen Coyle who may very well be the real deal in terms of becoming a top manager. However if he was/is the extent of our ambition then once again IMO Celtic are short changing the fans.

Over the past few day’s many of us have mentioned a plethora of names mostly foreign. While it would be a bonus to have someone in charge who has an affiliation with the club not many at this time could be described as being the BEST man for the job.

Either PL and DD are listening to the laughable media and are of the opinion that the fans only want a “Celtic minded” manager or penny pinching is the priority. From the list of past Bhoy’s only one name should be considered and that is David Moyes. If buying his contract does not prove financially viable then fair enough he should be marked off the list.

However that does not mean you should go for the second, third or fourth best “Celtic minded” manager, you go for the BEST man for the job. Now if Owen Coyle, Tony Mowbary, Mark McGhee or Craig Levein are the next names on the list, then I am afraid it’s all too obvious where the ambition of our club lies.

Surely they are not seriously suggesting that any of these guys are the best possible candidates available for the job. They only have to look on forums such as this one to get names of managers currently available who have either the profile or are vastly more experience to do the job.

It will be interesting to see who we actually appoint, it will make things crystal clear as to where the club sees itself and what the ambitions truly are.

JungleJim

:-)

Danny Boyle, Blaser-Brown and Charlie Donnelly on May 28, 2009 9:00 AM

"The man is greatly respected throughout Europe" - - Yes but only by true football people who know the game inside and out and recognise a brilliant coach who knows the game!! He's certainly not respected by the people who count, the Laptop Loyal!! I remember an exasparated Journo asking "Why cant he speak proper English FFS!!" and that rascal Jock Brown retorting "Why dont you ask him your question in any of the other 4 languages he speaks??"
When the journos were told his new signing, the old guy from Wolfsburg, had been at training for two weeks now and still no-one knew which foot he kicked with, how they laughed at the thought that old Dr Jo signs players and doesnt even know which foot they kick with!!
Dr Jo, a true football knowledge and possible the only Celtic manager I have seen who has the ability to change a game at any time with his tactics.

Hoops...

He actually became European Technical Advisor however that wasn't really the point. The point is he was poorly treated by many supporters and regarded as some kind of laughing stock which is mainly due to the media in the "Best Small (minded) Country in the World"

Now today....

Exactly, I remember one red-top ridiculing Dr.Jo and Lubo before Lubo had even kicked a ball. Something about us signing an aging journeyman for £300k. Didn't do too badly, did he?

There are an awful lot of people on this site whose first instinct is to accept uncriticaly the fabrications of the gutter press and various radio gaga employees. Even the language they use in their posts is uncannily similar to that of the DR - 'Celtic snubbed', 'Celtic can't pay enough' etc., etc..

The board is not without fault eg the January transfer window debacle. That said, I'd trust PL miles ahead of HK, AW, BFDJ, FW, AR, AC, CY, JT, DB, KJ and the rest of the zoo.

Danny Boyle, Blaser-Brown and Charlie Donnelly
Is that the aging journeyman who Zinedine Zidane said was his inspiration to become a footballer and "If I could become anywhere near the player he was that would be my dream". Not sure ZZ got there but he was still quite good though not sure what the LLoyal would have thought of him if he had been signed by Dr Jo for Celtic? "Too 2 footed"?

Agreed re dr jo. Treated disgracefully by the red tops and a large section of our support. That is exactly the type of manager that we should be looking to recruit. Someone who knows the euro market and has the tatical knowledge to be able to change a game. No more rigid 442 please

just heard Martinez has impressed the suit.Very strong vibes.What his track record?

Paul

I am surpirsed to read things like 'have embarked' and 'extensive process' as these suggest no planning in advance and a potentially lengthy procedure. Also later on you have noted that the list of candidates may not even yet be complete.

Surely there is a perpetual list of candidates drawn up by the best run clubs? I bet Man U already know who they'll approach should Swalex chuck it. I bet the name at the top of the list is different to the one at the top of it 2 years ago. Even where there are permananet fixtures like Arsene Wenger I bet a replacement is not a tabboo subject in the Arsenal boardroom.

But where WGS is concerned we all knew what was coming, so my guess is in fact that the manager we are after still has a big game to play and the media frenzy will be allowed to rumble on a few more days.......

....step forward Yogi Hughes.
;-)

Re. Dr.Venglos
Good onya ,lads.
The perspective to look at past injustice and put on record your feelings about it.
I fear we will be looking at Gordon`s spell in a few years in a similar sort of way.

Totally agree and ive said it on here before:
Dr Jo was an outstanding manager.

maligned by the hun agenda.

That would be the ageing journeyman who Pavel Nedved said it was one of the highlights of his career to play alongside when we beat Juventus at Celtic Park.

On that Juventus subject, they just bulleted the Tinker-man.

I just wish to pass on my condolences to Bloke109 and his family.

Bring On The Trumpets!

dont suppose theres any chance that we actually wait until we appoint someone before we start bashing people over the head for things they are supposed to have done?

martin 47, well said.

wgs has gone, its the boards turn now.

I know it's only rumours but i think Slaven Bilic would be an excellent choice. Just watching the way his Croatian team destroyed england twice last year with excellent attacking football shows what a good manager he has been for them. He gives the impression somehow of knowing how to get the best out of players and surely his contacts in that part of the world would mean players with the ability of Lubo might be attractred to Celtic again.

Here's hoping

Don't know if this has been mentioned but Owen Coyles mother was on Radio na gaeltachta saying she doesn't want him to become the manager and his wife and family won't move, so that one looks to be dead in the water.

Mowbray is too timid to be celtic manager and every Hibbee I know describes him as 'good football but no heart'.

IMO Bilic is less qualified than both of them and Mick McCarthy would be better than anyone mentioned to be on the 'shortlist' so far.

DD

blantyrekev

what makes you so sure everyone knew he was leaving? there was no leaks, no mention of it in the media. if anyone had been approached its unlikely that it wouldnt have come out somehow.

http://www.kerrydalestreet.com/page/Venglos,+Jozef

Last paragraph and yes he did take up thje post of European Technical Advisor

Venglos could also claim to have kept his dignity while others lost theirs, but is too genial to do that. High blood pressure was the reason given for him making way for John Barnes, a selection about which he is diplomatic: "The club thought they were getting it right; they wanted it to be right." In Barnes’ successor, O’Neill, Venglos feels they have got it right. "He is an intelligent, nice man with plenty of experience, who is getting a very good response from the players and fans, which is most important."

One thing that last night demonstrated admirably was that qualifications don't ncessarily matter when managing a football club. How qualified was Guardiola before he took Barca to an unprecedented treble?

Sincere condolences to Bloke109 and his family for thier loss.

NavanBhoy, more recently Capello's England destroyed Bilic's Croatia in Croatia.

Donegal Danny, would you have McCarthy before Moyes?

For bilic&lennon read barnes&dalgliesh

Can somebody tell me why Bilic is so loved? He has no more qualifications than any of the Coyles, Leviens, Mowbrays etc.

I have little faith in PL to delver a manager of european and club experience. Just my opinion but I frear the happy clappers faith in PL and DD is about to be finally shown up for what it is. Misguided!

DD

their not thier..last post

Martin 47 - I totally agree. It just comes down to who you want to believe.

Do you believe Owen Coyle, Burnley FC and Peter Lawell?

Do you believe the red tops scrabbling around for something, anything, to sell a few papers?

If any Celtic fan believes an ounce of what they read in red tops they need help. The "done deals" and "close family sources" are changing day by day.

Believe me, the papers and bookies HAVE NO IDEA who is going to be the next manager. How can they when even the SSM doesn't?

Morning Ah'll

Sorry off topic, but are there any Tech's on, my Bhoy's PC has a blue screen telling me for it's own good it won't let windows run, and it won't let anything run.

I have tried googling the problem but I don't know what the problem is.

Any advise greatly appreciated

Kittoch

thismancraig

and if my memory serves me right the bold Lubo even nutmegged Nedved on the halfway line at Celtic Park.

To Bohemian Bhoy on May 27, 2009 5:39 PM

I perhaps didn’t express myself as clearly as I wished yesterday at 2.29.

On any given day, a rich variety of views can be found on this site and the vast majority are graciously expressed. Usually, too, with good humour.

A big reason I (and I suspect very many others) visit the site is because I am entertained by the frequent differences of opinion and I like to see how arguments pan out.

My contention to do with your post of 1.02 is that your point might have been made with a bit more style and elegance than seemingly to snipe at Paul based on your perception of his line of thought; basically accusing him of being a PL poodle and inferring that many of us are being duped by Paul and, by extension, PL and the Board.

I grant you that it’s an interesting (if not exactly new) opinion. And as you've guessed, it's not a view I would wholly concur with, though I accept we would all be foolish simply to take anyone's blog at face value.

Furthermore, I would also offer that, as with football, there’s a Celtic Way of conducting a debate which doesn’t require cyber snarling or rubbishing what others say.

Hail, hail.

Kittochbhoy - what is the stop code on your blue screen of death?

There are 200 days to Christmas Eve. (I think). Martin spent last Christmas in hospital. Martin has spent the last 205 days in hospital. It would be horrible to think that he will spend next Christmas in hospital. It would feel like failure if that were to happen and I’m sure there are quite a few on here who would agree with me.

There really isn’t anything wrong with Martin that the hospital can help with. Not really, not on a daily basis. The doctors and nurses love him to bits, but they’ve had their time it is time for them to let him go. Martin needs to be rehabilitated. He needs that age old undeniably good therapy… TLC; the therapy that only his friends and family can give him. The only way he will enjoy the full benefit of that TLC is if it is applied in the privacy of his own home with the ones he loves and that so obviously love him back in bundles.

You’ve all now seen the video, you are all now acutely aware of his condition. His chances for any meaningful recovery are unquantifiable, your guess is as meaningful as anybody else’s so vague is the equation.

But right at this moment Martin does not give a toss for equations, or odds, or prognosis. Martin only cares about going home. It breaks my heart when I use those words… ‘go home’, because I personally attribute so much emotion with the every day act we most of us do… simply - go home. Go home to those that we love; go home to those that we provide for; go home to those that we are most at ease with, who know us like nobody else does: go home to those, that if push ever came to shove, I’ve no doubt we’d die for.

That is all Martin wants to do… just go home. Anything and everything else is a bonus and Martin will treat it as such. Martin is a clever man who is a prisoner to paralysis. His body might not be able to function like it once did, but sure as hell is hot and waiting to get hotter, his mind is ever more acute and the stories he has to tell are bursting to get out.They deserve to be heard, to be read.

If your curiosity, your compassion, your paternal instincts have a pulse, then Martin’s plight cries out to you for help.

I don’t know about you guys but I’m going to do all that I can to get him home, and comfortable, for Christmas. I’m no freeking failure and I don’t think a single one of you are either.

We can’t wish him home; it just does not work like that. If Martin is to get home soon, then those who will be most responsible and applauded for making that so… well that would be you guys, won’t it. The guys that populate CQN who are doing all that they can to see our mate back where he most needs to be.

We just need to raise the profile and use our imaginations, never giving up hope and flicking the big man upstairs a wee prayer every now and then too, or maybe just give the man a mention to somebody who just might not yet have heard his story; pebbles in a pond and the like.

God is it only 200 days to Christmas?

Kittochbhoy

I have a similar problem withh mine. This is known as the Blue Screen of Death and there are many different reasons why it might come up. On mine, the error message was changing all the time and I can't get anything working at all.

The technical guys at work have had it for a couple of weeks and they haven't been able to figure it out either. I think they are in the process of taking the drives apart to see if anything can be done for it.

If it's still under warranty you might be able to get some help from where you bought it.

Mort

To be fair I was a wee bit sceptical on the signing of Lubo.

And then in his first game against Dundee, he runs down the left like a typical left footed player and whips in a super cross with the outside of his right boot on to the head of the KoK.

Scepticism gone, I think we have a player here.

DD - I too am surprised that Mick McCarthy is not being quoted by the newspapers. He certainly is more qualified than Coyle, Mowbray, McGhee or Levein. He is also certainly not out of reach.

My thoughts are he is a little too "celtic minded" for the laptop loyal and they don't want to tempt fate and have him actually join.

Former hard man defender hated by the blue hordes, a Celtic fan who has managed Eire?

They would implode at the very thought of it.

MightBeWorthItJustToWatchTheReactionCSC

Cadizzy

Of course not it'd be moyes all the way for me but it ain't gonna happen.

In fact Celtic should go for Mourinho, then if not, Capello, then if not... I'm being flippant of course but WE ARE CELTIC we should be aiming higher than the names mentioned like Levien and McGhee. Start at the top and work your way down, not start at the bottom to begin with!

But that would mean spending money and we will not do that.

Of the cheap options mentioned so far, McCarthy has the most experience, he has managed at club and international level. He is strong minded though so probably not on PL's radar.

DD

RL

My thoughts are he is a little too "celtic minded" for the laptop loyal and they don't want to tempt fate and have him actually join.

You could be onto something.

Mort

Rogueleader

Stop code ox00000024 ox00190203 0x84082aeo 0xc0000102 ox00000000)

What happened to the Peace Cup money?

Mort

Thanks, unfortunately out of warranty at christmas.

By Danny Boyle, Blaser-Brown and Charlie Donnelly on May 28, 2009 9:52 AM
thismancraig
There are two videos - "Lubo- A gift from God" and I can remember the other one! Worth a watch. As for Dr Jo, a brilliant football mind, a widely respected coach and man whose dignity and professionalism was never compromised by the vested intersts of Scottish Football. Possibly the best Celtic manager Ive ever seen

Donegaldanny

If this chap coyle cannot even control his own mother and stop her going on the radio at such a delicate time then I certainly hope the guy comes nowhere near Celtic Park.

It is bad enough with the taxi driver rumour mill but that kind of stuff takes us back 10 years and hugely weakens the clubs negotiating position on any initiative.

New name for this morning

Glen Huddle

By Danny Boyle, Blaser-Brown and Charlie Donnelly on May 28, 2009 9:52 AM
thismancraig
" for the love of Lubo"!!!!!

Paul67,

Am experiencing problems with this auld PC. Just got on line and have been able to read your article. Very reassuring. I heard the nonsense being spouted by Chick Young yesterday and I worried, although it being Chick eased the worries a little bit. I saw the BBC Scotland interviews with the supporters outside Celtic Park and, while I realise these things can be doctored, I was not at all happy to hear people like the idiot who was happy for Owen Coyle to have the job because he was a Celtic supporter, while Gordon Strachan wasn't. The main reason Owen Coyle for getting the job is: he is Celtic minded. Therein lies the road to madness.

Kittochbhoy - a 24 stop code is an NTFS file system corruption.

When is this happening? Before or after the windows logo showing the loading bar?

What you need to do is get your Windows CD and boot directly from that. On you black screen that comes up it will tell you what "F" key along the top of the keyboard to press to access your boot menu. It is usually F9. Go into the recovery console there and run this command inside it:

chkdsk /r /f

This will check your hard drive for errors and fix any.

Of course if that bombs out you may very well have a nice dead Hard Drive! Happens quite regularly, the HDD is one fo the few components with a mechanical element to them. They are a big point of failure.

Location; A modern office overlooking 50 former pitches
Time; 2.30pm Wednsday

Ed: "Son, c'mere a minute"

Spotty : "Yes Boss. What's up?"

Ed: "You did well on that school meals story last week. I like your style. I've got another wee job for you. I think you'll like it."

Spotty: "Thanks Boss. Great. What's the script?"

Ed: "Here's what we've got so far on Owen Coyle. It's pretty thin. Nothing to go on. I need a story. 500 words by copy deadline. See what you you can do with it."

Spotty: "Wow! Sport! Thanks Boss."

Some time later..

Ed: "Aye, not bad son. Let me see. Wee tweak here, tweak there. Tum te tum... Right. There you go. Take that over to the Sports Sub-Ed for a headline."

Spotty "Thanks Boss"

Next Edition

Exclusive: Owen Coyle snubs Celtic offer as manager hunt suffers setback

Following day

Spotty: "Can I have a word Boss"

Ed: "Sure son. Make it quick though."

Spotty "It's about that headline the sub-ed put on my copy."

Ed: "Yip. Cracker. Great work. Well done"

Spotty: "But the headline didn't relate to the facts in my piece."

Ed: "Ach, don't worry about that son. Sub-Ed knows what he's doing."

Spotty: "Oh, alright. But Boss? How come my name wasn't on the article?"

Ed: "You kidding son? We put your name on a piece like that you'd be laughed out the chapel. Keep up the good work though."

By Parkheadcumsalford
Re the guy who wants a "Celtic-Minded" Celtic manager - how many people you think dear old Chick interviewed before he got this pearl? You can bet Chick would have been there till midnight till he got the right quote!!

Roberto Martinez 40/1 with PP. ive been told to get on

Burnley'78

It was on Radio na gaeltachta hardly radio 5 live.

And lets face it there should be little to negotiate if its Coyle. But i fear penny pinching will be the order of the day.

DD

Ok I'm convinced.

It's David Moyes.

Rogueleader

Thanks again, now to find the disks!

"Wife, where did you put those disks for the weemans computer"

"I gave them to you to put away in a safe place"

"Whit do you mean you've never seen them"

Picking a new manager is a lottery, for sure, but I would hate to think our club will be restricted in their pursuits due to the 'prudence' factor.

Even this board, who have undertaken the necessary steps to restore solvency after the Allan MacDonald fiasco, must appreciate that if we are going to wrestle back our title next season then there has to be a very reasonable transfer spend to lure the next manager.

As it stands, the current squad is not good enough to achieve this objective and we have glaring deficiencies in our starting XI. You could put a special one into the post and it still wouldn't matter. Good players are more important than anything else, they just need someone competent to steer the ship.

Bankiebhoy - ha, ha...trumpets!

Kittochbhoy

I was watching BBC news earlier on in the week.
They meantioned a law from the EU that says that goods have a 2 year warranty. It is actually 6 years in the UK under the sale of goods act.

If the fault isn't due to wear and tear contact the vendor or your local trading standars office.

Slaven Bilic 1/2
Owen Coyle 2/1
Tony Mowbray 3/1
Tom O'Connor 4/1
The Major from Fawlty Towers 5/1
Worzel Gummidge 6/1
Champion The Wonder Horse 7/1
Anneka Rice 8/1
Roy Aitken 10/1
Craig Levein 12/1
St Francis of Asissi 14/1
Richard Stilgoe 18/1
Lloyd Cole & The Commotions 20/1
David O'Leary 25/1
Janet Jackson 33/1

kittochbhoy - when mine did that, it was a fried memory chip (which I only found out after replacing the hard drive).

weeminger - you got a stop code 24 on a fried DIMM module? Never seen that one, but fried DIMM's to do funny things. 98% sure it will be HDD.

Celtic fans are victim to the most misinformation
of any club in the world- fact

AMDG

A reminder to all who are keen to support a team in green white and gold playing at Tynecastle !!!

Today at 6pm sees the final of the Scottish Independent Schools Cup.

The home team in maroon are Geroge Watsons College who will play last years runners up St. Aloysius College from Glasgow.

I know the home team, although traditionally a rugby School, will have huge backing so any OA's or other interested parties in the Edinburgh area would be most welcome to try to balance the support a bit.

As the St Aloysius motto goes Ad Majora Natus Sum !

Not sure who the St. Aloysius manager is but maybe Owen Coyle's mum might have a view or even Chick Young ?

I remember the morning after the appointment of Dr Venglos.

Predictably, the Daily Record carried a front page headline: DOCTOR WHO?

At that time, the Scottish media was in overdrive on a daily basis with speculation as to the identity of the new manager and as can be seen today, the papers had a new favourite every other day.

A lot of media men were very angry at Celtic for having the bare-faced audacity to unveil a manager whom not one of them had mentioned. Consequently, the knives were out and the hacks and editors didn't give the good Doctor a chance.

Typical Scotland.

Now today tomorrow and always,

I know you're right but that supporter's is the voice that gets broadcast and it seems to reflect a lot of our support, the bulk of which I doubt ever read CQN, more's the pity.

I see a lot of CQNers are now coming out of the woodwork and reappraising Dr Venglos. There didn't seem to be too many of us supporting him over against the dream team, when they took over. He was a tremendous manager and if we can get anyone approaching his capabilities we'll be doing well.

The first time I saw Moravcik was the day after he signed, on the touchline at Rugby Park. Celtic lost 2-0 that day (I think) and the atmosphere surrounding the (then League Champions) was terrible. I wonder what Lubo thought he'd let himself in for!

The Scottish Media were shown up for what they were after the 5-1 win against Rangers when Lubo was asked 'how does it feel to go from zero to hero'?

Tell him I was never zero!

celtic4orme

I knew he was leaving, everyone I know knew he was leaving, and most of the people I've read on CQN knew he was leaving. Some were surprised that it was this year and not last, but in any respect that is not the point. Even if our information is only correct by pure luck it doens't matter, there should perpetually be a shorltist of potential replacements for the manager at Celtic Park, even when the incumbent is sweeping all before him. Who knows when the next personal tragedy will strike, when the offer comes to take your manager to a challenge abroad or to riches unknown.

The point is if we are only now embarking on a potentially lengthy process and are yet to draw up out target list this would be unfathomably inept stewardship. I don't believe it to be the case as it happens, purely on account of it being inconceivable, and I'm probably making way too much of the language that I've actually highlighted, but if we have not already done the due diligence as referred to by the likes of barcabhoy, above, that would be unforgivable.

I agree that any offer would be likely to have been leaked but I've not said we should have made anyone an offer, simply that we should now be in a position to, and maybe we're holding off because it would be inconsiderate given the guy's present club's position?

Getting back to my point all I am saying is that the impression I get from reading the blog is that we may not be as well prepared for this eventuality as I would have conceived us to be, but the pedant in me feels the need to stretch the language used to a blustery monologue like this!! OK, I'll get back to work.

Paul67,

Do you still have a gut feel that there is a v good chance our man will be in place before Sunday?

Malcolm, Dr Jo was a very good appointment; you forgot about when Martin O’Neill took over :-)

Bobbycfc, I am pretty sure talks have taken place, by proxy or direct, with a number of parties. This is the way of it and we can expect a few more days like yesterday before this is over.

BlantyreKev, I’m pretty sure no one was approached while the season was still live, which does not preclude a “what if...” scenario, or the conversation I had with an accountant on Sunday afternoon, that everyone would have been well aware there was a change coming along.

DBBIA, 10:02, :-)

Parkheadcumsalford, yes, I watched the same item with some concern.

Tom McLaughlin, agree. The media and media-friendly players mocked Dr Jo in a wholly irresponsible manner.

McManus69, no, completely reverse that gut feeling.

Paul67,

Thanks for clearing that up, it would be good to get a new manager in sooner rather than later, though not at the expense of looking at all viable candidates.

It's a massive GIRUY to the old media, cheers for that, they'll be cringing in their tabloid sheets (I was tempted to miss-spell that).

vmhan
Hail Hail

donegaldanny

The point is that she spoke to a media outlet with an opinion about a sensitive issue which gives the anti Celtic more clout if they need it and does nothing to improve Celtic's position in the whole scenario whether they want this guy or not....amateur stuff and typical of what would occur if the club go down this route I fear.

Re penny pinching, it is not like you to find something negative about the club. Good to see you have moved on from Gordon. I guess you will have loads more to moan about when we do get the new man in place ?

Only on CQN would we ask for a 'Perpetual Shortlist'!

Brilliant!

As an optimist...

Celtic have already indirectly talked to Coyle / Bilic and maybe 1 or 2 others and asked if they would be intersted. All have said yes. Celtic have said we'll be back in touch next week (maybe).

Celtic have indirectly contacted D. Moyes and asked if he'd be intersted. He has said "Maybe. I'll speak (indirectly) to you after the weekend.."

As a pessimist...

Celtic have drawn up a short list of Coyle / Mowbary / Levien / McGhee. They have indirectly offered the job to Coyle who has said maybe, but not on the terms you're offering. The board are now trying to think of somebody else before we move onto the next name on our original list (Mowbary).

TheTruthIsOutThereCSC

FTS

VargasShampoo,

I'll take Champion the wonder horse every time. Along with the Range Rider, his is the first programme I rememeber watching on TV. (After Andy Pandy and the Flower Pot Men, of course!)

By Parkheadcumsalford on May 28, 2009 10:19 AM
Not Sure some people are re-appraising their opinion of Dr Jo. I know a lot of people, myself included, who thought he was a very good coach who knew football and had a wealth of contacts worldwide and were sad to see him go, remember thinking he would be glad to be out of Scotland.
Regarding the laptop loyal, surely we are all aware that the agenda is set now by the media to the new manager? No matter who Celtics appoint there will be an agenda against that person for whatever reason.

I haven't posted since sunday, so first off I'd like to record my thanks to Gordon. Overall, he was a very good manager for our club, although he probably stayed on a year too long, & made plenty of mistakes this year. It was certainly time he moved on, & I wish him every success & happiness in the future.

Re possible new managers, whilst I suspect that no-one really has any great idea who we are really interested in, if we at the stage of being interested in anyone at all yet, I can't say any of the names mentioned so far, such as Coyle, Mowbray, Bilic, McCarthy, or O'Leary (please, if there is a god, no!!!!), are guys that I'd like to see anywhere near the managers office at Parkhead.

2 are rookies not yet qualified to do so (& the analogy with Pep Guardiaola taking over Barca is not a valid one, as their structure is entirely different from ours, although promoting from within even someone highly intelligent & steeped in the traddition of the club was still a gamble, which has obviously worked out wonderfully); 1 is very average; 1 guy produces good technical teams, but with a lack of bottle, & lacks the pragmatism necessary to work with a club expected to win things; & the other guy is a too awful to contemplate. Frankly, I'd take Levein or McGhee over any of these guys.

If we avoid going down the fantasy managers route, & unfortunately I suspect that David Moyes would be included in that, I'd hope that experienced, proven guys like Roy Hodgson, Alan Curbishley, Steve Coppell, & (don't laugh) Steve McLaren would be in the running. They have all, like MON & to a lesser extent Gordon, been successful in English football, Hodgson very much & McLaren to a more limited extent also having success on the continent, & would all I reckon be worth serious consideration.

I haven't mentioned any continental guys as I don't really know enough about anyone other than the managers at the top clubs, who I assume would be no more likely to be interested in the job than, eg, Moyes. The club though must surely be looking also at guys from Europe, & will presumably be able to identify a few who will at least merit consideration.

Re last night- weren't Barca were just wonderful? A lot of commentators have suggested that Man Utd played badly & didn't really turn up, but it seemed to me that they started brilliantly & were as up for the game initially as they could have been. They were, in my judgement, simply passed to death & comprehensively outplayed, even embarrassed at their own inability to get the ball or impose themseves at all, by a truly magnificent side.

Burnley78

Fee paying schools? No thanks too elitist IMHO.

DD

Blantyre Kev

"The point is if we are only now embarking on a potentially lengthy process and are yet to draw up out target list this would be unfathomably inept stewardship."

He only left on Monday! Imagine if you will we embarked on an in depth search for a new manager during the league run in. Whilst Gordon was giving it his all to acheive 4IAR we were actively looking for his replacement. Assume the red tops got a hold of that while we still had a chance of winning the league, it would have been like they had won the lottery.

blantyrekev

theres the real possibility that no one at celtic knew what his intentions were until very recently.

if that was the case i would have been very suprised if they hadnt considered him leaving and started to make contingencies, but theres only so much digging you can do before it becomes public knowledge and that would seriously undermine our manager at a critical time for the club.

gordon only resigned on monday, i wouldnt be happy if we signed someone this quickly without exploring all the possibilities, and there are a lot of managers who have either only just finished or are about to finish their seasons. these things dont get done in a day or two.

Paul67,
Sorry if this has been covered but what are your thoughts on Bilic for the job? I know his agent was talking (possibly a bit too much) on the radio last night and he said that no one was returning their calls!?!

Surely he'd be worth a conversation? Although he hasn't managed at club level I think he could be fantastic for us.

I'm sure he could attract some technically gifted Czech players over and add a bit of passion to the sidelines.

thismancraig - I prefer to call it a Rolling Shortlist :)

Burnley78

Until PL and DD show they have ambition yes I will not be happy. I'm not happy with second best or mediocrity unlike some.

DD

Eddie Stobart A66/1

? and the Mysterians 96[tears]/1

As much as I liked Dr Jo, I simply cannot forgive him for Vidar Riseth. Still having nightmares...

His post-match interviews were brilliant:

'Very good passing, very good technical, very good players...'

DBBIA

Nina 99(red balloons)/1

Early Shift 7 to 2

donegaldanny

re fee paying schools....and your generic view they are elitist....

It is a matter of choice for us all and a difficult one I grant you.

I have a foot in both camps tonight.

Some fee paying schools may be, some may appear so, some are not IMO.

I would never consider these two institutions as such but I guess it is down to individual take on 'what 'elitism' is.

Hail Hail

Archbishop Desmond tutu 1

Sheena Easton 9/5

tombhoy

you forgot "with good combinations"

Said it every time as I recall...

TLWIO

Dongaldanny

re not happy with second best etc

So you were not in favour of the coyle option then ?

Who would make you happy then ?

ted rodgers 3 2 1

Vargas Shampoo

Ill take Anneka Rice off your hands - as long as she's wearing those lycra trackies she used to run about in.

Harold Godwinson 1066/1

Sir Alf Ramsay 1966/1

sham sixty 9/1

Haircut 100-1

Ma Team

I'm a wee spoiled bassa, its Celtic a support,
watch wit yer saying, for a go fir the throat,
oor next manager, well he better be good,
get rid o some players and some dead wood.

I'll gie him a chance, a couple of days,
make up my mind, if a want him tae stay,
he better start winnin, right fae the start,
be Celtic minded, straight fae the heart.

I want both the cups, the finals as well,
if yae don't win them, straight doon tae hell,
first in the league, seconds no good enough,
nae bloody excuses, we've hid awe that stuff.

I'm a Celtic supporter, I know wit a want,
tae play just like Barca, hear the crowd chant,
"Champions of Europe", oh wit a dream,
my Celtic, my Celtic, ma fitba team.

ToInfinityandBeyondCSC

The chances of anything coming from Mars - 1,000,000:1

Slaven Bilic. That's who we need. But the Board want a 'Celtic-minded' puppet so that's what we'll get ..................and we'll NEVER progress in Europe.

Amen.

Burnley78

Best of the cheap bunch although I'd still favour McCarthy out of the list.

For me first choice would be someone of the ilk of Moyes, Jol, Hitzfeld but we both know they ain't gonna happen.

DD

Ok i'll say it...

Padraig Pearse 1916-1

Paul67

A reassuring article although i wuld like to this this was always the case.

Ultimately no matter who is appointed not everyone will be happy, other than Moyes it would seem, so like Gordon they will start with something to prove.

The critical element is how big the unhappy section is. Under Gordon it was a strong section that never went away, only Gordon's success held them back.

It is much like the transfer market

purchase a championship player and the player is written off almost instantly as bargain basement - Coyle and Mowbray

Purchase unknown foreigner and they will get much more of a chance to prove themself - bilic

Lunch hour 12/1

Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky Mick & Tich

5 4 3 to 1

Ellbhoy

Realistically

Who would make you happy then as next manager ?

The Borg Collective 7of9/1

Unacceptable.

ed "stewpot" stewart 5/5

Blantyre Kev - The risk of sounding out potential managers BEFORE the present incumbent officially resigns is that there is a danger of leaks. So what happened weeks before the end of the season?

First of all Smuda, the Polish club manager came out and told the Polish media that he had been approached by people from Celtic enquiring as to his willingness to consider the Celtic job. No-one from Celtic denied the story.

Then the Daily Mirror, again well before the season's end, reported that David Moyes had also been approached by Celtic on the same basis. No-one from Celtic denied the story.

The board knew Strachan was on his bike and had been working away quietly, preparing the groundwork in advance of the day of reckoning. How many other potential managers were discreetly sounded out that we did not hear about, because it wasn't leaked?

I appreciate you were kinda playing the role of Devil's Advocate, but I refuse to believe moves were not made long before Strachan resigned.

The Smuda link also proves that the net is being cast wider than the Coca-cola championship and the SPL...

dave clarke 5/1

The JimiHendrixExperience If6was9/1

Medicine Head

1 and 1 is 1 to 1

Agree re David Moyes but I am sure that we could offer a huge chunk of the budget and still not persuade Moyes to come up to Celtic even if Dermott asked him on bended knee unfortunately.....such is the environment we play in.

Jol would be great also but sadly he has just left one big club for another in a slightly higher profile league where there really is only upside. Maybe advance work could have helped but his knew team have been courting him for several weeks I understand.

McCarthy is interesting. He would probably cost as much as Gordon but he has some experience of dealing with the 'weight of expectation' which goes with a job like the celtic one. I reckon he will be determined to prove himself in EPL, but worth considering. He also knows the player market we will need to operate in too !

31003

Sorry, but 5,4,3,2,1 was Manfred Mann, not Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich.

Out of my brain on the 5:15 to 1

Jimmy Calderwood & Jimmy Nichol must be a steal at 1690:1

Tangerine Dream

Slaven Bilic. That's who we need. But the Board want a 'Celtic-minded' puppet so that's what we'll get ..................and we'll NEVER progress in Europe.

What makes everyone so sure Bilic would do any of that? Hes never managed a club team?

DD

The last paragraph of Paul’s post has actually made me feel better. PL and DD cannot afford a quick fix appointment to fill this vacancy. In fact apart from David Moyes it must be considerably hard to exactly match anyone else to the profile of the perfect candidate.

David Moyes’s professionalism will dictate that his priority at this time is to win the FA Cup for Everton. Therefore he must distance himself from giving any positive indications that he might be interested in managing Celtic because he owes his current club and its fans a fully focused approach to the final. Any acknowledgement or denial of interest on his part will come after the final.

In the meantime however the selection process will continue by identifying candidates who are considered to be acceptable alternatives to Moyes. Owen Coyle and Tony Mowbray are exceptional men but in my opinion would need time to become exceptional Celtic managers. Would we give them that time?

If I had a choice between the two of them it would be Owen because he has more steel to him. However he appears to be off the radar now. According to my Hibbee pals, whilst Tony played the game hard, he is a bit of a soft touch as a manager to be in charge at a club like Celtic. Might be wrong here but his appointment could be risky.

I am not as knowledgeable as all of you guys who post daily on this site but if we don’t get David Moyes then I think Mick McCarthy or Roy Keane would just about fit the bill. No SPL based Scotsmen please.

Tom McLaughlin

Alzheimers.......................whit day is it?

Once Upon a Tim

Fair enough but I suppose that depends on what parts of the process you undertake. I don't think that the first thought towards a replacement should take place after the departure. A Board of directors must be able to act confidentially in some matters. I'm not saying the potential list of replacements would be minuted or pinned to the wall, but the eventuality has to be anticipated. And for the record I reckon this does happen at Celtic and that had WGS left last year our manger 08/09 would have been Mark McGhee, we were well down that road. Allegedly!

Bill Gates 101010101010101/1

Kit there is a programme in the USA called Extreme Make-Over, or some such ! They completely renovate houses of deserving people, sometimes knocking the thing down completely (I think ! I've only watched the odd 5 minutes of the programme). Is there such a programme in Australia ? I'm not sure, but I think that show have even been over here to do the same thing, but in this, I might be wrong !

Do you think it might be worth getting in touch with the producers of this show if there isn't an equivalent in Aus ? Just a thought !

pablophanque

By tombhoy on May 28, 2009 10:40 AM
Didnt we sell Riseth for £1m? And what about Lubo / Myallby / Mark Viduk etc. Personally I thought he knew a player , had a wealth of contacts, and with a bit more support and time could have been very successful.

Real CQN er on shortlist

Timbuck 2 1

What about a Mick and Roy dream team?!?

Funboy 3 to 1

Hugh K - evens

A previous poster mentioned Mars.

Reminds me of the joke about Martians landing on the Garvaghy Road. A local asks "Who are you"?, the Martian replied "I am Martian". The reply was "Not down this effing road you're not"

The Four Tops 7roomsofgloom/1

Folly Folly,

Yer welcome to them! ;o)

WMBT

Potential Dream Teams:

Trappatoni / Di Canio
Toshack / Hartson
Beenhaker / Van Hoijdonk
Hitzfeld / Lambert
Eriksson / Larsson
Bilic / Lubo
Lippi / Annoni
Ferguson / McClair

Dayshift - 6/2

Backshift 2/10

Nighshift 10/6

Now today tomorrow and always on May 28, 2009 10:59 AM
Selling Riseth for £1m was probably the best bit of business Allan McDonald did for the club.
In fairness, Dr Jo had a good record in the transfer market and knew his stuff. Could have been another Wim but came too late in his career. I fear Beenhaaker and Hitzfeld would be in the same boat now. Personally would like a manager that is young, hungry and ambitious that would give stability for a few years.

Come on DD, sell Moyes the EPL 2 idea. You know it makes sense...

Ben Folds 5/1

birmingham 6 to 1

Arthur Lee & Love

7 & 7 Is 14/1

The Doors

5/1

Heaven 17 to 1

Did anyone else notice that last Sunday there was a miracle of technology and that guys you hadn't heard from for 4 years suddenly found that their texts and email had started working? Incredible.

'Technology Sunday' I'm calling it.

Mid morning break

elevenses to 1

Spirit

12/1 Dreams of Dr Sardonicus

Highlander: There can be only - 1

Schalke 04/1

Mourinho / Cadete

UB 40/1.....

Gordon Strachan might need that one.

Hey...

Suddenly there's a (solitary) price for Stale Solbakken ...

33/1 with Laddies (see http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/football-specials/celtic-specials/next-permanent-manager)

Hmmmm

Directory heaven

118 247 to 1

Kylie/Danni

Rogueleader, Mort, Blantyre

Thanks for your advise guys

It looks like it might make it.

I formatted a drive (impressive eh)

And it is now telling me windows will take 34 minutes to load, I take it if the hard drive was goosed it would'nt load?

Kittoch

Walter Smith - I can't belive that you're number /1

donegaldanny,

Slav's got attitude. He'd shake 'em up. Didn't do bad with Croatia. Still learning but I'd take that.

O'Leary

123 to 1

Tangerine dream

"........Take That"

A Million Love Songs to 1

I said i thought i had read that Bilic had never managed a club side before..

Just double checked wikipedia and found he had 5 games in charge of
hadjuk split on a temporary basis

Two years with Croatia U21
He then took over the top team that had qualified for 2006 world cup under previous manager(KRANJCAR) promoted EDuardo Modric and corluka
and qualified for euro2008

Not the most inspiring CV though he would have access to cream of croatian talent

Maybe it is the fact he carries a pope medal the makes him no1 choice
for many in here :@)

With the caveat that I take it all back if our new manager is still involved in football business at this moment I would consider that the void that we now have to be extremely poor management on the board's part. If they have not been planning for this contingency then they are poor managers indeed. The transition should have been seamless.

On a secondary but related point re players where is the positive movement we should be expecting from the guff that we always have our targets identified and are ready to move on them. Eight weeks and counting to CL Qualifiers.

Don't want people always offering excuses. I want people who deliver solutions.

There, feel much more like a proper fan now.

U2, One - Two/One on.

Gordon Strachan and Garry Pendrey 4-4-2/1

when I'm 6/4

A quick look on Newsnow reveals the media are now banging the Mowbray drum. Again, WBA have stated they would not welcome an approach WERE they to get one.
The plain facts are that no club has been approached officially, no one has been offered the job, no one has declined an offer, yet they still spout rubbish.

By winningemmell on May 28, 2009 11:08 AM
Spirit

12/1 Dreams of Dr Sardonicus

superb album

Good to see that the press are as accurate as ever! Looks like the insiders are keeping their moths shut - which is as it should be.

I'm sure that the Board has been thinking about possible replacements knowing that there was a likelihood of WGS leaving - succession planning.

But since it became known publicly that there is a vacancy I'm certain that many CVs have been sent to ssm@celticfc.co.uk. All of these need to be considered, even if most of them are unsuitable.

We need a quick appointment, but that's not the same as appointing the first name thought of. A week or so to go through a proper selection process is entirely proper.

While it would be great to see our new man introduced to the Parkhead faithful on Sunday, I wouldn't be unhappy if it took into next week to get the right manager for our club.

Pablophanque

That's an excellent idea. There is a programme on Channel 4 The Home Show that do something similar and you never know, they might be willing to come out to Australia to do this for Kano. They don't say they will foot the bill but you can only ask.

I watched the video on your youtube channel last night and it was very heartbreaking to see a once active and funloving man reduced to having to rely on so many people to look after him. The way Kano and his family have conducted themselves through this terrible time is wonderful. I was also very pleased to see Gordon Strachan and Scott Brown wishing him all the best.

Hail Hail

Mort

A bit country but

Dolly Parton 9/5

10(cc)/1

pablophanque

Pablo/Kit

The application form for the US show Extreme Makeover is here

Again I couldn't see if they would go to Australia but it wouldn't do any harm to ask.

Mort

Sid Waddell, Oooone Huuundred and Eiiiggghhhtty /1

Timbuk3/1

pablophanque

JungleJim and Mort (from earlier)

Maybe I used the wrong phrase when I wrote 'strong sources' (!) but my point remains. Shoot it down, please.

There have been numerous reports (not just from Keevins et al) claiming that Owen Coyle met Peter Lawell, that he was Celtic's first choice etc etc. They may well all be total tripe, but you choose to believe Celtic's version of events every time. Because it's only agents and journalists who make things up.....

Celtic and Burnley have both said that neither has spoken to the other about Coyle. No one has said that there has been no contact between Peter Lawell and Owen Coyle.

It's easy to say they haven't made an offer. I imagine they would have spoken to him and asked him if he was interested in the job. He would have said no, and that's the end of it. Fine, no offer was made but that's a snub in my book. If Celtic want us to believe their version of events, why don't they come out and say 'We haven't approached Owen Coyle' as opposed to 'We haven't approached Burnley'?

I see the old media are using the new media as a source and repackaging it for their old media outlets.................

Seriously? Is STV that amateurish that their news is made up of trawling fan forums?? No disrespect intended Paul67.. :-)

http://sport.stv.tv/home/99192-celtic-sources-rubbish-coyle-reports/

sylla -

in ma Tap Twinty

WG

Obi wan kanobi 2

TheoldonesCSC

Mort, great work mate, I'll get on it when I come back.

pablophanque

A bit more country[ hooray!] JohnnyCash and the Tennessee 3/1

................ Bar

Christian Gross got the bullet from Basle yesterday..........

DD

Last train to Clarksville, 10 to 1.

Enid Blyton- Famous 5/1, although you could have got Secret 7/1 ante-post.

magnificent 7/1

My favourite Dr Jo Venglos moment was when a journo asked him if his English was good enough to communicate with players here.

Dr Jo answered that he is "fluent in English as well as seven other languages - which language would you like to continue the discussion in?"

His treatment by the media here was poor. In the case of Hugh Keevins, it was disgraceful. A better example of an inadequate standing in judgement of an immeasurably better man and better professional I have yet to see.

After my bad news yesterday, and the remarkable comments (thank-you to all), I now find myself laughing like a drain with the odds posts. Love them all, but Cadizzy, you're on fire mate :-)

tombhoy

Further to that, someone comes on here a few weeks ago with a notion that Roberto Martinez looks like an up-and-coming manager. This grows arms and legs to the extent that some journalists approach the Swansea chairman for his reaction. The guy says there has been no approach. This is spun as 'Swansea chairman denies reports' and 'claims there has been no approach'.

Odds:
William G Stewart: 15/1
Auld: 100/30
Binary 1/0
BBC Weather 5/1
Neighbours On 20/1
Neighbours repeat 25/6
Lunchtime Sportsdesk with Jimmy Sanderson 10/1

31003

I was thinking of posting the Medicine Head odds but dismissed the idea on the basis that no-one on here was old enough to know who it was. Inicidentally, it's my birthday today

47/1

jc2

"Not the most inspiring CV though he would have access to cream of croatian talent"

I doubt that very much. Modric, Corluka, Kranjcar, Srna, Olic, Petric. That's the cream of Croatian talent and we can't afford any of their wages.

Would you settle for the yoghurt of Croatian talent?

Vmhan, the media created a story and then threw cold water over it in their usual manner.

Vinibhoy, Bilic is a good enough manager, I have serious reservations of a ‘Lafferty’ nature, and I am sure that if he is talking to the newspapers he is not talking to Celtic.

Antsman, probably right about an unknown foreigner, it seems to work that way with players.

Bhass Bhoy, ha!

By BlantyreKev on May 28, 2009 11:07 AM

Whilst my personal preference is to distinguish between a decent Rangers supporter and a hun, my litmus test for uncovering a hun is that they text you when they win at our expense.

I confine my gloating within the family.

They're now quoting Chicago 25 or 6/4

pablo

Even better again, channel nine in australia have a programme HomeMADE which is a competition where ten talented designers from around Australia will compete for a $100,000 cash prize when they take on the biggest challenge of their lives — to completely makeover two suburban family homes every week. This means that each week two lucky families are given the opportunity of a lifetime: $50,000 each and a team of hot designers to completely transform their home in just five days.

This might be more for aesthetic improvements but if ever there was someone who needed a chance like this it would be Kano and family. There is a form on their website but maybe Kit or one of our other australian posters might be able to get in direct contact with the producers.

Mort

Archimedes

3.14159265359....../1

New Candidates from just this morning. But are any of them Celtic minded? Apologies if I have missed any.

Late entry

Relate Marriage Guidance 1/1

Eddie Stobart A66/1
? and the Mysterians 96[tears]/1
Nina 99(red balloons)/1
Early Shift 7 to 2
Archbishop Desmond tutu 1
Sheena Easton 9/5
ted rodgers 3 2 1
Harold Godwinson 1066/1
Sir Alf Ramsay 1966/1
sham sixty 9/1
Haircut 100-1
The chances of anything coming from Mars - 1,000,000:1
Padraig Pearse 1916-1
Lunch hour 12/1
Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky Mick & Tich 5 4 3 to 1
The Borg Collective 7of9/1
ed "stewpot" stewart 5/5
dave clarke 5/1
The JimiHendrixExperience If6was9/1
Out of my brain on the 5:15 to 1
Jimmy Calderwood & Jimmy Nichol must be a steal at 1690:1
Bill Gates 101010101010101/1Timbuck 2 1
Funboy 3 to 1
Hugh K – evens
The Four Tops 7roomsofgloom/1
Dayshift - 6/2
Backshift 2/10
Nighshift 10/6
Ben Folds 5/1
birmingham 6 to 1
Arthur Lee & Love 7 & 7 Is 14/1
The Doors 5/1
Heaven 17 to 1
Mid morning break elevenses to 1
Spirit 12/1 Dreams of Dr Sardonicus
Highlander: There can be only - 1
Schalke 04/1
UB 40/1.....
Directory heaven 118 247 to 1
Walter Smith - I can't belive that you're number /1
O'Leary 123 to 1
A Million Love Songs to 1
when I'm 6/4
Gordon Strachan and Garry Pendrey 4-4-2/1
Dolly Parton 9/5
10(cc)/1
Sid Waddell, Oooone Huuundred and Eiiiggghhhtty /1
Timbuk3/1
Obi wan kanobi 2
JohnnyCash and the Tennessee 3/1
Last train to Clarksville, 10 to 1.
Enid Blyton- Famous 5/1, although you could have got Secret 7/1 ante-post.

magnificent 7/1
William G Stewart: 15/1
Auld: 100/30
Binary 1/0
BBC Weather 5/1
Neighbours On 20/1
Neighbours repeat 25/6
Lunchtime Sportsdesk with Jimmy Sanderson 10/1
it's my birthday today 47/1

tlwio

He'll never come. It's pi in the sky.

Nena

99 Luftballons to 1

Buzzcocks - Sixteen/1 or Sixteen Again/1

Pete Shelley - Millions of People, No One Like You/1

Not that WGS has gone it's a Different Kind of Tension for some posters!

Dr Hook

Only 16/1

Christian Gross got the bullet from Basle yesterday..........

DD

The Jackson 5/1

Famous 5/1

Secret 7/1

The Spartans 300/1

back to lurking :)

Dougal's Masonic Dinner - No Longer Going/1

Sean Connery 007-1
But is he Celtic-minded?

donegaldanny

You posted that info about Basel twice. Must be something fawlty.

FC Twente/1

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

PS - didn't read yesterday and so if already done (no doubt) apologies!

Donegal Danny,

Lawell and Desmond have been comfortably the most efficient Chief Exec and Chairman in our clubs history. The point isn't even debatable - they deserve our faith. It's not happy clapping, or whatever you want to call it - it's simple observation.

Anyway, I'm increasingly underwhelmed by the list of names we're being forced to endure. A few are actually frightening, like McCarthy and Levein. Both good managers but neither appropriate for Celtic. If you didn't like Strachan these guys will not be to your liking.

Coyle may be the next great Scottish manager, but it's clearly a gamble and we shouldn't be gambling our short term future. If he get the gig I'll support him of course, but, it seems like an illogical decision for all the concerned parties. Being inspirational at a small club with players of limited ability and ambition is not the challenge he will face at Celtic. He may have an awful lot more going for him than that, but so far that's what he's famous for.

Mowbray is underwhelming. I like his teams well enough, and football needs good guys like him around, but again nothing he's done so far indicates he's appropriate for the challenge we present.

McGhee can't be the manager because it would provoke an open revolt.

If we were fans of Sunderland and were making an objective assessment of the a list which included those names and Strachan …. I imagine he'd be favourite.

I didn't have the same level of difficulty with Strachan as so many fans did. However, I did want to see us play better football and continue to progress. As such I had rather hoped we would be getting a better manager than Strachan, not a manager with a poorer CV and/or experience which, whilst impressive, does not necessarily qualify him for the Celtic job. Even Moyes, who is clearly the best candidate, has a dubious European pedigree.

Watty & Fatty

4-6-0/1

Mcgraininspain, You Have Mail!

Malceye, You Have Mail!

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Last Four SPL league titles

Celtic 3/1

If PL needs the services of a recruitment specialist, he could do a great deal worse than engage Johan Cruyff for a week or two. Seems to have done some decent work for Laporta recently.

Joe 90/1

^O-O^

stright from the horses mouth, just as paul67 said...

Burnley boss Owen Coyle has flatly denied that there was an approach from Celtic football club about him taking over as their new manager.

After winning promotion from the Coca Cola Championship Coyle has been the subject of intense speculation as a possible replacement for Gordon Strachan.

“You’re flattered if it’s Celtic you’re talking about,” admitted Coyle. “But it was just speculation. It was all hypothetical.

“Obviously the attraction of Celtic to me, for someone growing up in Glasgow, is huge. But there’s no decision to make because there was never any approach to the club.”

He repeated: “There was no approach so there was nothing to turn down.”

Coyle stopped short at an outright denial of interest, but sought to allay fans’ fears by committing himself to continue his work at the Lancashire club.

“I’m looking forward to the challenge of being the smallest club in the Premier League.

“I had a meeting with the chairman. We’re a very tight knit group, as are the players and the whole town. We’ve got an exiting prospect ahead of us. I want to develop this club and take it on.”

He added: "I'm going on holiday with my family this week and will be doing so as the Burnley manager."

beverly hills
90210 / 1

Lets get to real contenders with real experience. Getting someone with european experience is going to be tough as lure of Celtic is strong but no guarantee of CL next year. My No.1 (not mentioned to date) would be Roy Hodgson - look at where he's taken Fulham (peaked), background with Inter Milan and multiple league titles in Switzerland/Sweden so used to big leagues/players and success in small leagues. Celtic could be a pull but could they afford him.

Best with potential is Craig Levein by a mile, but has a distrust of both sides of the Old Firm. Push the boat out to get him as unlikely to be able to get Hodgson.

Worst thing about Strachan & O'Neil's time (left us with a terrible legacy) was this "celtic-minded" rubbish. We're bigger than this and need to lose the morons who carp on about how important it is.

Others :

Mowbray - nice, honest guy but serial loser. Will be back to Tommy Burns era ; good football but not winning anything

Keane - are you kidding ; press self destruct button now

Bilic - interesting, but no day to day club experience

McGhee - potential, but behind Levein (nb, never had money to spend)

Collins - cant work with the board, too headstrong/arrogant

Coyle - great potential ; too early? never managed in top league anywhere with top league players

Curbishley/Kopell - English paper talk only .....

Moyes - are you kidding 2 ; how could he benefit from coming to Celts never mind they couldnt afford him. Would take him (like Hodgson or Levein) in a minute though.

Darren Ferguson - ditto Coyle comments above

Lambert - done nothing as a manager

Seven Drunken Nights/1

Bloke_109, sorry for your loss.

ST

CQN - Paul 67/1

Mort

Jack Bauer 24/1

/Bishop B

BLOKE_109

Text i got this morning from good source. I quote
"Txt from bhoy that knows Lawwell.Very strong Martinez vibes this morning.Get on

there is a actually a program in oz which makes over houses of unfortunate(usually ill) People is on 7,9,0r 10 cant remember the name and of you oz bhoys remembe??

ST

An outsider - Hawaii 501/1

Mort

Lisbon 2/1

One thin dime

OC "an exiting prospect ahead of us" was that a freudian slip I wonder....

Hampden in the sun
7/1

ST

By Big_Liam on May 27, 2009 11:52 PM

How much of what you said do you KNOW, actually KNOW as a fact? You can treat it as a fact and respond to that treatment as if it were real but without detailed knowledge of what actually happened you - and all of us- are making it up.

If you realise that you are making it up and temper your thinking with that "governor" of the possibility you might be wrong in charge, then your reaction/response is likely to be less stressful.

On not putting Rangers to the sword here is something I made up:

There are 12 men in a boat after a shipwreck. 10 of them are too weak to row for a distant shore. Would you go out your way to weaken the guy who still had some strength?

Its just an idea and I know it is, so I am not trying to present it as a fact or the truth, although the analogy stands up and there might even be some truth in it but that idea allows a slightly different perspective on things.

I made this up with the best of intentions towards you, what meaning you give it is up to you.

William of Orange 1690/1

Pope Benedict XVI/1

Archimedes 3.14159265/1

King Henry IIX 6/1

Anna Kournikova 6-2, 4-6, 7-5 /1

Hazel Blears £60,000 (Less Capital Gains Tax) / 1

Renault 5/1

Bloke_109,

Just read back.
Condolences on your loss my friend.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

U2 1888

Keevins is actually very very good at his job.....which is winding up the masses and uneducated who actually bother to listen to and read his pathetic 'shock' utterances.

He is a sad pathetic bullying individual who earns his living in this way by treating folk like Dr Jo and Gary Caldwell in such a manner.

As there are still tens of thousands of misguided Celtic consumers who are influenced by this fellow then he is clearly keeping his employers
more than happy.

Only by starving him and his ilk of their oxygen will we succeed in changing things.

Young is not too different except he is a bit more subtle about his MO.

Can I propose that NewsNow.com/Celtic is renamed to LiesNow.com/Celtic in recognition of the fact that virtually every story linked to about Celtic at the moment is either a lie, or another lie contradicting an earlier lie? (Obviously I accept that NewsNow are not responsible for the content of sites to which they link, but I do think the proposed name change would be more indicative of the nature of the content on those links.)

Amongst other pearls of wisdom, we are now being told that Owen Coyle has turned down an offer that he has never actually re