We know what we're up against

Podium surely not

Again?

Seems that way!

Yes?

hoops for third?

2nd Thanks ....

As for the article.....only in scotland................

No!

Speak at the James Connolly Society?

It's enough for officials to have Irish names for their integrity to be called into question.

Double standards as usual from Rangers and those who love them.

May all their efforts flounder.

This title is Winnable or Loseable.

I'm in the winnable camp.

Come on Celtic.

I believe, so should you!

Pass it on and good will prevail.

SAW CSC

Top Ten

bankiebhoy1 my tent is beside yours mate :)

BELIEVE

Mort

DBBIA

Who is the Patron Saint of Podiums?

Paul67

I'm with you on this bring it on....... we'll win the league once again.

vmhan
Hail hail

Ha! Paul67, can you imagine if Eddie Smith, or Lord help us Tom Murphy, accepted such a James Connolly invite? That would definitely be a case of sitting back and watching the storm. The main point is though that they just wouldn't.

Frever

Joke time:

The integrity of Scottish referees.

Pablo

From the tail end of the last.

What an interesting point you raise.

Until reading James Kelman, I had never seen piece, as in a piece, written down. I'm not sticking to that spelling just to annoy you, but because it's what Kelman wrote and writes, so who am I to question it?

Now, what's really interesting is that Jimmy Kelman refers to a cheese sandwich as a piece on cheese. On. Who'd have thought it? I've only ever said: "Piece n cheese". But I would have bet the house on it being piece AND cheese.

"We know what we are up against, but I still think we will win."

Win the game? Yes

Win the league? Out of our hands and this is where the problem lies. More worringly, this is where those with "partisan" views may excert influence.

Paul67,
I wish kick-off was NOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

I cant bare this lack of sleep!!!!!!!!!!

I need to turn this nervous energy into noise!

Bring it on.

It really is silly to hit F5 in the hope that I will get in there first, but its the only thing that has brought a smile to my face in months.

I wrote on Strachan’s appointment that we would know that he was an exceptional manager when the EPL clubs started calling. They haven’t yet. Will they soon I wonder? No.

I agree with Paul we are up against it in every way possible, the SFA’s position and statements over the last few days are scandalous. Dougal seems pretty stupid to me and his leanings a blatant. There is NO conspiracy theory just fact. Even Mrs HT agrees.

I still think we will win on Sunday, but I am willing to bet my mortgage on some dodgy decision making a Tannadice too. DU will win though and it will make 4IAR all the better. But, I do hope we get a better manager over the summer.

Hail Hail

BELIEVE!!!

...they will do everything they can to beat us

...they will be ably assisted by the establishment and the media

But

We shall not give in, we shall continue to have faith.

Ask not what Celtic can do for you, on Sunday ask what you can do for Celtic then do it to the best of your abilities, you can get behind the team and most of all you can BELIEVE!!!!

NBT -that would have to be St Michael.

C1st/Pablo- the Sweetheart is always chuntering on about the amount of 'ooss'[?] I generate just through my activities of daily living; by which I think she means bits of dust, debris, crumbs etc. I've always wondered how 'ooss' should be spelt.

Paul67,

firstly. the main reason we are up against it is not due to outside influences such as officials and there allegiences although these influences. the main reason is that we have been rubbish this season.

for being rubbish I beleive we can and will win this league as long as the officials do not go out of there way and nail their big blue\orange flags to the mast on Sunday.

Hail Hail to Celtic the 2008\2009 chanmpions in waiting.

MWDbelieves.CSC

MWD

Paul67, we all know now we are up against the establishment this weekend and we can see the following take place:

Sandaza yellow first 5 minutes
United keeper battered by one of their thugs
midfield players yellow carded
Our midfield will be carded early on also, but hearts will put out weak team.

Then after we get that early goal - penalty at Tannadise, we will win, they will get draw, Scotlands Shame have refs in the bag this weekend.
The league should have been won 3 months ago.
Hail Hail

In the imortal words of Kevin the perm Keegan.

"I tell you I would LUV it if we beat them I would really LUV it"

Can't wait for the weekend, if recent history is anything to go buy they will bottle it once more.

BELIEVE.

Dontbrattbackinanger

I thought St Michael was the Patron Saint of Underwear?

Marks&Sparks CSC

The James Connolly Society would surely be Hibernian supporters, ken ?

DBBIA

Know the term. Have relatives in greater Cumbernauld who use it. Don't think I've ever seen it written.

My grammar, punctuation and spelling is very very good. :o)

MWDneedstogobacktochool.CSC

Seeing lots of posters hoping that Strachan goes this summer but there don't seem to be many suggestions as to who will replace him?

Just who do we want to take over at the helm? Perhaps a more pertinant question would be who would be willing to come here, David Moyes name has come up a couple of times on other websites/forums but I can't see him leaving a top 6 Prem club for us.

Thoughts ??

Paul,

Well said.

I was sitting in the kitchen last night and listened to the first 5 or 10 minutes of Clyde Phone-in.

Darryl Broadfoot (or was it King? Both the same to me and I hope they both read this and are affronted) said that Dougal's withdrawal pandered to the "extremists" on certain "messageboard websites".

I almost choked on my dinner.

Fraser Wishart stated that he saw no problem with Dougal speaking at a Masonic event and that after dinner speaking would earn him some extra money.

30 pieces to be correct.

You, I and everyone on this site are being branded extremists for hold or giving an opinion on this matter.

I, for one, am grateful that you put this topic in the public domain on Tuesday afternoon and the very fact they are so offended by us expressing our opinion means we have touched a very raw nerve.

Keep it up

and, of course

BELIEVE

craggy

To all those who are fotunate enough to be going on Sunday,

Get behind the team and support them as if you're depends on it.

Stand up for the Champions

That should be
as if your life depends on it
excuses
it's getting to me already ;0)

oose is spelt oose because it's got the same sound as stoor.

The Norwegian word for vacuum cleaner sounds very much like stoorsooker (though not as much as I've made out). The British word for vacuum cleaner is of course hoover.

I can't wait to see the back of this season, it has been a struggle from June last year.

FIAR

Ulster-Celt

sydneytim will we be seeing you in cheers on sunday night
as i am pitching my tent in the winners circle come final whistle

Andy
Intersting to see that you have allowed Mr Moyes the decency of a forename.
A courtesy that you seem to have overlooked for Mr Strachan.

The Curious Case Of Gordan Strachan

Irrespective of what happens on Sunday afternoon, Celtic are at a crossroads with a divided support. We are in desperate need of a manager to unite the support. Team 4 is no better than when he came.

Andy- my ideal candidate would be Jose Mourinho; unbeaten at home for 115[!] consecutive games with Porto, some wee English team and now Inter.

Mourinho may not wish to fulfil his childhood dream of managing the famous Glasgow Celtic but I think we are one of those clubs who need a' Messiah' type of figure to lead us- a Stein, Clough or O'Neill rather than someone with a more technocratic approach.

OF course aforementioned Messiah would also have to have a keen footballing brain and also be able to see the big picture and the wood for the trees.

I just hope it's not wee Roy Keane.

pjinoz at some time of the night, a few of the club members are having a pub crawl from hero of waterloo from 8pm down to cheers later.

Dont think i could watch whole Huns game

wish Setanta would show the Celtic game :(

Craggy, I listened to clyde last night and I thought the same thing, we are all extremists, well have we all not been singled out by the Masons & Oragne Order in Scotland for lets say 140 -150 years.

But as you addressed in your post, we certainly struck a nerve, and all the laughing and joking hiding behind their mikes. They wont stop us voicing our opinion.

4 in a Row

Moonbeams your correct, were in danger of comming second because we're crap and have been for the majority of the season.
I don't buy into the conspiritory theories. If I was a ref I probably would favour the celts more than the oposition but to be able to make that much of a difference over a season is unrealistic.

The Celts have to go out pump Hearts, have utd beat them and the title will be ours. Not really deserved but as long as they don't win it.

Mon the tic.

Afternoon all

Rarely post, prefer to read the excellant posts when the boss is not looking!! Keep up the good work Paul, very interesting reading which might become even more so in the coming days, weeks, months....

After sunday I was adamant I wasn't going this sunday, fed up with negative tactics, tippy-tappy passing, lack of cutting edge up from etc. however I have now calmed considerably.

Consider the following: If the roles were reversed, and we had to go to tannadice needing a win, whilst Rearrangers hosted hearts, would you be confident, especially given our away form this year?

In addition I read recently that there away form is as bad as ours, not quite, however they do have one game remaining, conveniently, away from home. At the moment we have both won 10 and drawn 6. They have lost only 2 to our 3. So...........
Believe!!!!

Lord0

Remember the rankers V utd game last year when the Utd manager was apoplectic over the blatant cheating that went on.
I think Utd know exactly what’s expected of them if they are to prevail against a 12 man rankers.

Vinnibhoy (ps I’m not talking to myself ….honest)

Save yir noise for Sunday amigo…….me, I fully intend coming out of CP totally hoarse …..oh and happy.

Cadizzy, my friends from Derry are trying to coax me into staying over, the whole bus load of them are staying in a hotel at George Square……me, I have visitors doon from the Port of Glasgow so must return on the bus which will be rock n rollin, plenty of thom thumbs will be quaffed.

Thom Thumbs non = alcoholic cocktail …….

:¬)

Believe
Vmhan
Hail Hail

Paul67

Well done on a wonderful piece of investigative journalism the other night. Never underestimate the power of the written word.

BELIEVE

Mort

Dougal and the officials at the SFA have all the credibility of an MPs expanses claim.

A couple of things................

According to the good people of Celticminded, the linesman who said the thug should be sent off last Sunday for the challenge on the Don's keeper is a Rangers fan. I will not call him a hun, as he obviously is not, or he would not have done what he did !

Secondly, Wishart apparently said that Naylor wa not good enough for Celtic ! Conflict of interest shoorly ? A Union rep saying that one of his members should be dismissed from his job ???

Hmmmmmmmmmm ?

C_F, it wasn't until I wrote it down once, that I struggled with the spelling (no change there - Ed) and just couldn't accept in my mind that it should be spelled (spelt ?) "piece" ! Jist didnae look right ! So peece it is !

DBBIA, I understand that certain people with a certain dimension to their umbilicus, are more prone to this phenomenon than others due to it's actual physical dimensions and the propensity of body hair that surrounds it :o)))

pablophanque

Paul67

spot on.

I have never been so up for a game in my whole entire life.

The scum are in full voice. The cheating is rife. The smell of them and their shameful songs ringing in my ears.

They are all against us!!! never ever been as true and apparent as now.

Lets stick it right to them. Stand up and sing. KEEP THE FAITH.

We can and will win the league.

The huns will bottle it. They always do.

NO MORE NEGATIVITY. STRACHANS DAY WILL COME.

FOR NOW ALL WE NEED TO DO IS BELIEVE.

In order to get away from all the rubbish being spouted from the likes of Gordon Smith about action taken by Rangers (when there has clearly been none)and so on. I tried to look at the kind of useful stuff a Football organisation could be sharing with the populace.................like who might win the Fair Play position and what they must do, explain the CL qualification route for 2009/10 etc etc etc.........factual stuff that might inform.

A glance at the fate that will become the team which does not win the SPL this week.

This scenario has been reputed to cost the losers a minimum of 15 million pounds.

I am not so sure about the maths on that for a wee country like ours and 2 well supported teams involved but it is a good paper headline.

Either way qualification for the CL does look tough for the runner up. The team who do not win will have 1 or maybe 2 big extra revenue earning matches early in the season however and a good possibility to progress post xmas. The team from the CL has no such liklihood especially Celtic who might well be in Pot 4.

Even if the runners up do get beaten at the 4th round stage (2nd game) they will be guaranteed a place in the group stage of Europa Cup which will have 6 games (3 at home) and earning potential depending on the draw.

If the runners up on Sunday were to qualify then they would gain significantly from the extra matches, and get the CL benefit.

The challenge is that the Rd 3 opponents will be Twente Enschede or Moscow Dynamo (mid season in Russia), or the Runner Up from Greece / Turkey or Romania.

The Rd 4 opponents would in all probability be 1 from Arsenal, Lyon or Marsailles, Juventus or Fiorentina, Athletico or Valencia, or Bayern or Stutgart or Shaktar Donetsk.

Rangers might get a benefit from their good coeff if they were to make it to Rd 4 depending on who else qualifies, Celtic would be unlikely to. Either way the draw could be really tough.

The route to the CL will be tough, just another thing to play for on Sunday, money at stake......but not likely to be a net of the £10 or £15m that folk reckon. A meaningful tie with Bayern / Arsenal / Athletico or Lyon would net over £3m in its own right ! Again or esteemed media seem to be not letting the facts get in the way of a good headline.

The Incredible Peter Martin Experience writes as follows in today's Evening Times. Reasonable enough piece for once.

Dougal full-time whistle too late

STUART DOUGAL has called time on his career a week earlier than scheduled, but he should have blown the whistle a lot sooner.

The minute he picked up a viral infection and then subsequent injuries, was the signal he should have gone.

Instead, like a boxer who doesn't know when to quit, Stuart went back into the ring and got caught with more than a few sucker punches.

Twenty four years as one of our better referees all forgotten about in one disastrous week when where he fell foul of Craig Levein's annual rant, the deceit of Kyle Lafferty and the wrong interpretation of an incident from his assistant, which prompted a red card for Madjid Bougherra.

As if to add insult to injury, he then withdrew from a scheduled after- dinner bash at the Larkhall Masonic lodge this Friday. Honestly you couldn't make this up!

I've never considered Stuart arrogant, bigoted or bias in favour of the blue side of Glasgow.

If anything, he is guilty of poor judgement in agreeing to attend an event in a venue that left him wide open to criticism from the conspiracy loonies.

He was, however, off the pace mentally and the match sharpness that he once displayed as Scotland's No.1 official had deserted him.

It will happen to us all at some point in our own careers. The difficulty comes in dealing with it and accepting your time is up.

DBBIA/C1st,

I see Cadizzy got in ahead of me. I too had always thought of "oose" being spelt in that manner.
However his explanation is far more scientific than mine - I just thought it looked right :-)

DBBIA, from last thread and George's diet.
Thank you! I know now the diet I have been partcicpating in for the last few years :-)

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

nmccfc73,

Excellent point, if we were two points ahead but needing to win at Tannadice I would be very nervous indeed.

In fact, I think I would be more nervous than I currently am.

This is going to sound crazy, here goes, considering that we are behind on points going in to the last day of the season, I feel we have the advantage because they are so poor away from home.

I REALLY REALLY REALLY cannot see the huns winning at Tannadice!

Victory over Hearts and its 4 IN A ROW!

BELIEVE

pablophanque - Did you know that "Fraser Wishart" is an anagram of "hun clown"?

On another note, has anybody noticed that people with surnames as their first name tend to be... how shall I say this... onanists?

Ian58, (or should that be Mr Ian58) I don't understand why you perceive my reference to GS using only his surname as derogatory, it certainly wasn't the intention. Players and managers are frequently referred to by their surnames and I didn't realise that to post on CQN we had to show strict gramatical continuity throughout our posts as you appear to take the slight from the full use of DM's name.

bri
It looks as if Gordon is planning to stay on . All the transfer activity suggest that to me.
If a new manager was to come in I would imagine hed want to pick his own players .

The Battered Bunnet - "He was, however, off the pace mentally and the match sharpness that he once displayed as Scotland's No.1 official had deserted him.

It will happen to us all at some point in our own careers. The difficulty comes in dealing with it and accepting your time is up."

Having never been on the pace mentally, McGuire/Martin needn't worry about losing it.

bamboo

Thats on the premise that Gordon gets to pick the players we sign now...................... Whoosh!

DD

Paul

If justice were to be done and a Review Panel can be called swiftly in the pursuit of justice (Aye I nearly had an irony attack there)then the just outcome after last Saturday's events would have been:

Mulgrew - Not Guilty,
Bougerra - Not Proven
and Lafferty - Guilty.

In the interests of justice if the Review Panel that has been convened with such haste can deem Bougerra Not Proven and Lafferty Guilty, using the same video evidence medium, then why can Lafferty not miss the game by the award of a red card with effect from last Saturday?
That would be just and a more fitting punishment and warning to all cheats. In the interest of weeding them out of the game, if G Smith really has a passion for doing so, why has he not taken the process the SFA used to look at the match events to its logical conclusion? It must be in his power to do so.

OK a Lafferty suspension will not have the same impact as losing Bougerra but if Mulgrew is free to play based on the Review Panel's decision why is it that Lafferty cannot be bound by the decision of the same hearing? G Smith should be asked to answer.

That would be the just outcome for its not only that they want their cake, they want to eat it in front of everyone too.

I hope it chokes them.

On Dougal. His response is indicative of the mindset that is used to having its own way for so long and has been so perplexed over the last few years as reality dictates otherwise.
I long for the day when Celtic can shake their dust from our shoes.

Burnley78,

I am of the understanding that seedings are not involved in the qualifiers. My understanding could be falwed though. I remember once before this occurred. :o)

MWD

on a day off from work so catching up on the posts since tuesday night..had logged off before the Dougal/lodge story had broke..some intresting stuff..

for some reason decided to google the term Bert Allan-the new star turn at the lodge and got a link to his agents..

a few belters on this list..

Chief Exec anyone??

http://www.stoneyport.co.uk/bbspecials/index.html

Afternoon all, from sunny London town...

Cant wait for Sunday, I think the omens are so far in our favour its scary

1. United need the point for Europe
2. United still bear a grudge after last years chanting at the hunnery
3. The huns are woeful when people go at them and their centre backs are slower than a week in Inverness
4. Our new Goalie could become a Cult Hero before he even dons a Jersey
5. The Jambo's have feck all to play for

I'm almost tempted to sacrifice a goat and read its inards, but thats a dirty hun practice so mibees not

Yes the officials are unlikely to do us any favours, but, with the brew ha ha created by Dougal and his handshaky friends this week, the SFA are gonna look mighty stupid if its an officials "mistake" that takes the title away from paradise

All in all I think its a better week to be a Bhoy than a goat anywhere near the brox...

Ming

craggy island gaa - those are the same sort of people who laughed and called Fergus McCann paranoid when he went after that little fart of a man, Jim Farry.

We could do with a bit more Bunnet attitude at Celtic these days.

Andy @ 12:31

Speaking of Davie Moyes. I worked with a bloke in the late eighty's who went along with a few fellow junior players went to Shrewsbury Town for a trial. Moyes was a senior first team player and i think Shrewsbury captain and he apparently singled out the Celtic supporting lads and gave them a bit of a time. Singing the sash, throwing boots at them making them re polish boots, calling them Fenian B's. The lad did not have a good word to say about him.

FLC

people forget quickly dont they. Stop believing the papers folk.

Stachan was interviewed only last month and said he was happy at Celtic and he is enjoying it.

He will not go anywhere win lose or draw.

The board will be the ones who take action and lets be honest,

they love him enough for all of us.

So to all of the people pandering to newspapers stories.

Look at the facts. Srachan is not going anywhere. Unfortunately.

We will deal with this in the summer.

If you all believe the newspapers then it makes me worry.

Sorry to change the subject!

I've been 'out of the loop' for a few days, did we ever find out who requested the video panel sat for Scott McDonald?

The Battered Bunnet

Peter 'Martin' sold his sole to the devil the day he changed his name.

Sheany

They are very nervous, and really desparate. They are however united for this week. Fans / Team / Manager / Board etc.....We do not have that hunger or alignment.....hopefully the week's revelations of what Celtic is up against will remind our crowd on Sunday what we need to do !

Someone posted the 79 game earlier, if ever there was an average group of players (being kind) propelled by desire, belief and a great support it was that night.

A win will heap pressure on Rangers this week. I personally think any win will do. We do not need 3 nil in 30 mins, they will be more nervous if they do not know what they need to do. I would be in favour of us scoring to take the lead with 5 mins to go to be honest. Not sure my nerves could stand it though.

just for debate is there any manager out there that meets the heady expectations of us celts ie: being celtic minded
how many of us know of celtic minded managers that would do the job

Mort did a great job yesterday in putting forward a coherent Devil's Advocate defence of what has gone on since the split this season, justifying things from a Rangers point of view.

Thanks to him and everyone who took the trouble to answer the question, although I would have expected better from someone as erudite and well educated as that great man of medical science, DBBIA, than: "We arra peepul."

Nevertheless, their double standards get to me. I'm trying not to let them but it's not working.

Tom Murphy has been publicly pilloried for having the temerity to be called Murphy and still turn out as an official at a few Rangers matches. I know everyone knows the argument, but let's say it was the Netherlands and the coach of a rival team of Ajax complained about an official having a Jewish-sounding name. You would never ever hear the end of the condemnation and the coach would lose his job.

Then, because an official who helped Rangers cheat their way to an advantage in a critical match (you should have seen this bit of my post before I edited out all the emotive stuff and decided to mention just the facts), is to address, a week later, a gathering of Rangers supporters in Larkhall, the place where international corporations are taken to task for having the wrong colours in their corporate logos and green traffic lights are no-go, we feel entitled to mention that the whole thing stinks of a lack of propriety and objectivity and are labelled 'extremists' for our trouble.

I work in England. The long-suffering Liverpool fan I share an office with must be tired of the tales I tell her of football administration in the best small country in the world. But she thinks it stinks too.

When Gordon Smith came out and commended Rangers for their swift actions regarding Kyle Lafferty he left a bitter taste in the mouth by passing a snide remark to Willie Miller, the Aberdeen Director of Football.

He said: "I appreciate Willie Miller's recognition that I've tried to address the subject of cheating in football since I came into the Scottish FA job."

"It's not been easy getting the message across that it should be discouraged and eliminated in every event."

"I would see it as real progress if clubs started to react to such behaviour when perpetrated by their own players. This would, in my opinion, clean up the game very quickly."

"From Willie Miller's comments I feel he would now react in the same way if an Aberdeen player was ever guilty of such behaviour."

"We all know and understand that simulation has no place in Scottish football."

I don't know if Willie Miller has responded to this but if was so inclined he could respond along the lines off:

"We don't tolerate cheating at Aberdeen Football Club and if any of our players is proved to have done so we will act swiftly to punish. I agree that actions should be taken at club level but without something meaningful coming from the head of the SFA who knows exactly what punishment each team will dish out. Some might have different views to different actions. If Mr Smith really wants to eradicate cheating and diving in the game, he needs to lead from the top. The 'bringing the game into disrepute' charge is one he could look at. Any player accused of cheating could be charged with bringing the game into disrepute and if guilty suspended for 3 matches and fined an appropriate amount which will go to charity and be disclosed."

Just my tuppence worth

BELIEVE

Mort

Vmhan, hope so.

Freveranever, aye, indeed.

Vinibhoy, I agree.

Highland Tim, I remember our correspondence on that subject in the summer of 2006.

Moonbeams, indeed.

Finnharp, all the more reason to remind them of our vigilance.

craggy island gaa, I am sure Mr Wishart would have no problem speaking at such an event, but I am equally sure of who would not make the invite list.

nmccfc73, will do, thanks.

Mort, many thanks.

disgruntled again, indeed.

Auldheid, quite right.

ExiledBhoy - "3. The huns are woeful when people go at them and their centre backs are slower than a week in Inverness"

Slower than Kirk Broadfoot trying to read this book:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eggs-Alex-Barker/dp/1845432649/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242907443&sr=1-3

pjinoz

My expectations don't include our next manager being "Celtic Minded".

Burnley78/MWD,

Bert Kassies has it that seedings are brought into play for the 3rd and 4th round Qualifiers.

As it stands just now (according to Bert) 2 of the teams that the huns could play are FC Twente and Dinamo Moscow :-)

As I say this is all based upon Bert, but he usually has it spot on to be fair!

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/seedcl2009.html

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Sheany

I thought along similar lines after the final whistle on Sunday. Our home form is as formidible as their away (and ours!) form is rubbish. The biggie for me is that it wiped out the Goal Difference issue that would have been the factor if we were both going into the final game level on points (2003 anyone?). WE simply have to play to win, no more and hope DU and them play to their recent form.

cta!

This is the usual mega-optimism here before big matches. Then if the results aren't satisfactory, the venom comes on this site.
All Celtic can control is Sunday's game. I think that will be 2-0 to us but unfortunately I can see the same scoreline at Tannadice to the Dark Side, a match outside our control.
It's natural that people project what they want to happen onto what they think will pass. You see this when someone says "I've got a tenner on Caldwell first goal and Celtic 4-1. Sounds good to me."
Just for your own sakes, don't go building your hopes up too much. Concentrate on helping Celtic through the Hearts game. What will be will be.

Moonbeams

The only time seedings are not involved in CL is if a lower seeded team beats a higher team in round before and the draw has already taken place for next round.

Celtic will probably be seeded in Round 3 but would not be likely to be seeded in Round 4 unless there is an unlikely series of results in next 2 weeks and thus would not benefit from this happening this year.

Rangers will be seeded in Round 3 and are about 50% likely to be seeded in round 4 depending on the results of the next 2 weeks in Germany / Italy / France and Spain.

It will be much clearer after this weekend, not least in our own back yard !

Roll on Sunday... and roll on next season...

The pressure is on Rangers... they must be massive favourites, but they still have to beat a team that they just cant buy a result against. We may have gifted it to them, but the title is their's to throw away, and I really think they might...

That said, this season has been a big let-down. Win or lose this title, we need changes. We won 3IAR thanks to Strachan's superior football brain, in my opinion, but if we win the title this year it will be in spite of his pride and at times odd team-selections. Please, WGS, play our best players in their best positions and sign a number 10 and a left-back, or move over and let someone else do it...

and again people.

David Moyes.

Just 2 weeks ago he spoke spcefically to the Scottish Media saying the Premiership was too exciting to leave.

Why would he be coming to Celtic???

stop believing the papers

Burnley,

Agreed. Any win will do, and like you I am not sure if I could cope / survive for 85 minutes and both games at 0-0.

IMO, if we go ahead early it will heap the pressure on them to attack and they will leave themselves open at the back, to a very good counter attacking team.

I don't care how we do it, as long as we do it.

I don't like making predictions but;

Celtic to win 2-0.
Dundee Utd to win 1-0.

Celtic Champions.

4 IN A ROW.

BELIEVE.

TTT

The Greek / Czech / Turk and Romanian runners up are the other likely options for the Round 3 opposition all of which could be interesting.

The losers in Round 3 do get a lifeline of a Round 4 Europa Qualifier berth in which they would be seeded I believe.

lubo1977 my point exactly
all we have heard about in four years is returning to celtic ways
i want a manager who sends us out on the pitch ready to bully the opposition like o'neil instilled in us and for god sake ocassionally shoot
strachan in my view has tried to micro manage instead of inspiring saying he did not really need to give the lads a team talk in the last few weeks
hopefully he gets right into them this weekend and we can strut our stuff again chests puffed out

Click-the-ads,

Exactly, as soon as they only beat Aberdeen by one goal(despite dougals best efforts).

I thought to myself, don't lose tomorrow and we can do this.

Turns out we didn't, goal difference in our favour, they have got to win at the 2nd (arguably) most difficult ground to go to.

And they are as crap as us at winning away.

4 IN A ROW.

BELIEVE

Andy
Point well made, and my apologies.
I hadn't long logged in and the negativity of some in this place was getting to me.
I re-read your post after I posted mine and felt that I was unfair to you.
I think I'm just getting a bit more nervous than I want to admit!

For what it's worth, I've chosen to adopt the 'Mr' thing from Edward Ursus.
Maybe it's an age thing but it does help to keep things in perspective.
I find petty plays on names very tiresome.

Hello everyone. Due to extremely poor planning on my part I am going to be away camping this weekend. We will be staying close to Brighton (about 20 miles north of there). Do any of you know of a pub in Brighton that will be showing the games on Sunday?

To our bhoys:

Wobec wierzyć ...Artur
Um zu glauben ...Andreas
Om te geloven ...Glenn
Creideann ...Darren
信じるために ...Naka
Para creer ...Marc
Creideann ...Willo
πιστεύω ...Georgios
Om te geloven ...Jan

Až k domnívat se ...Milan (Misun)
信じるために ...Koki
Per credere ...Massimo
Pour croire ...Jean-Joel
Creideann ...Cillian

And to the rest of our Bhoys... Believe!

Finally, a message from...

Henrik Larsson: Till tro på
Big Bad John: At choelia
Stiliyan Petrov: Към вярвам
Morten Weighorst: Hen til tro
Johannes Edvaldsson: Til trúa
Jorge Cadete: Para acreditar
Harald Brattback: Til å tro

Disgruntled again

The David Moyes story in the Sun is farcical beyond belief. It says something like David Moyes is being lined up as Celtic manager but he will turn them down.

There is a sentence about Gordon Strachan maybe leaving if they win or not on Sunday.

The final paragraph says Celtic will make Moyes their top target but he has confided in a friend he would rather stay at Everton.

How this made it to the paper astounds me. Not only is it a nonsense of a story but it is poorly written. Can't expect too much more from that rag.

BELIEVE

Mort

Paul67,

Again an important and timely article. Do not give up on the issues of Dougal and Bougherra, SFA Chief Executive and Lafferty, the shameless demonisation of linesmen with Irish surnames and the 'peepil'invitation by the Larkhall Masons to serving referees. Regarding the latter it is worth noting that the invitation from the Lodge went out, and was accepted, at a time when Dougal had no intention of retiring before the season's end. In reality he could very well have spoken at Larkhall 2 days before refereeing Rangers at Tannadice.

I notice that the Sun newspaper have attempted today to bring Celtic fans back to the issue of blame and to look inward. Their flyer re Moyes is intended to set the agenda for the phone-ins and manipulate a civil war at Celtic Park on Sunday if things do not work out well for us. It is a ploy which must be resisted from those with influence within the Celtic family. That is why your persistence with today's theme is absolutely vital.

Burnley78 posted a few days ago that Rangers and their fans had stolen our clothes and moved to claim the underdogs tag for themselves as a means to unite and galvanise. The last two days have gone a long way to redress the situation.

Keep exposing the enemies of Celtic for what they are. Then let us go to Celtic Park on Sunday with hope in our hearts and
clarity in our minds.

On to Four.

Greg,

According to celticbars.com:
The Lectern tavern, Pelham Terrace, Lewes Road in Brighton is home to the Brighton and Sussex CSC.
Tel no: 01273 685258

Give them a buzz and Im sure they will give you all the info.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

BigChipsUK -

Charlie Nicholas: Believify!

andy...its irrelevant who we want as manager.

as dbbina says only someone with the persona of a mourinho or hiddink would do.

but id offer it to

co adriaanse
then
stale solbakken

Finnharp 12.42

Absolutely.

Paul has given us a platform in which we can express our opinions on these and other matters.

Don't think they don't read this, not for a second.
They can't help themselves.

What's the point in writing to or e-mailing a journalist in the Scottish media? They'll take one look at it and dismiss you/me/us as an extremist.

I tried it when Keevins wrote about ALLEGED racism when describing a man convicted of racism (Famine Song). The law was broken and proved so, nothing ALLEGED about that anymore. Still waiting on a reply.

This is the place to keep striking that very raw nerve, and they know it.

craggy

Philvisreturns, I don't even consider Knickerless to be an ex-Celt any more. He is no more than a moronic, half-witted turncoat.

Mort, ( @ 2009 1:03 PM )

the whole lafferty/bougerra issue really angers me.
On the subject i would like to ask, where was rangers "dignity" "pride" and "values" whe kevin thompson dived against us.

its blatent that this is to make rangers look as if they have standards and deserve to be rewarded for they're honesty by reducing the red card to a yellow so one of they're key players can play in what is arguably the mosty important match they have played or will play for quite a few years.

somebody with influence has to address this, rangers are intitled to apeal whatever they like. however, they cannot be allowed to influence the outcome of these issues. It was the same last year with the league extension. It goes beyond an appeal, and becomes a public debate and a witch hunt against thoese who are fair minded enough to appose the issue.

You have quite rightly commented on "bringing the game into disrepute" however the bigger issue here is the fact that rangers are doing this on a large scale when they're backs against the wall.
It must stop

We MUST BELIEVE!!!

philvisreturns 1.00pm

Aye, The Bunnet would not be taking this lightly, thats for sure.

To have a man with the debating skills and clout (literally) of Dr Reid on the board, I feel a wee bit let down by the silence from CP on this one.

craggy

I've no idea what the result will be at tannadice but I don't believe Rangers will be allowed NOT to win.

Levein's rage from last season and his words that 'Rangers were never going to be allowed to lose' are etched in my memory. Does he think things have honestly changed for him and his team....do we?

Dundee Utd will need to play an exceptionally clean and clinical game just to get the point they need and no matter what we do at Parkhead I can't see Rangers not using every dirty trick in the book to get the points. They did last week and are seen to be flaunting their resources all the way through scottish football to influence the outcome.

My brain hurts looking back last week and the inability of us to score a single goal and fear that was our ultimate undoing. Sick as a dog dropping yet more valuable points!

I sincerely hope we do get the results we need but lets face it if the positions were reversed and we were 2 points ahead and 1 win away from the championship we'd fancy our chances.

One thing I've learned in life when pinning all your hopes on a singular outcome is to expect the worst then you can only be surprised and that's how I feel about this weekend.

We blew our big chance last sunday and will need to face the consequences accordingly....the fat lady is clearing her throat but has yet to let us hear what song she's singing! I hope it's the Celtic song :-)

yes...I believe we've got a chance to remain as champions but the odds aren't great!

the Blog been a damn good read in recnt days......

mini gallagher

On the subject i would like to ask, where was rangers "dignity" "pride" and "values" whe kevin thompson dived against us.

Or when Boyd dived against Dundee United. It starts after about 10 secs.

Those dives were the reason Gordon Smith was very quiet on the whole simulation issue, that he campaigned for vociferously as soon as got the job.

If there wasn't such a good camera angle of Lafferty being "pole-axed" I doubt we would have heard a peep from him or his dignified friends.

BELIEVE

Mort

I'm trying to avoid 'getting in the mood for it'. Trying to keep low-key, not expect much. I feel like I did the lion's share of my 'grieving' last weekend.

I'm not even sure we'll win. You wonder where a goal might come from. A punt on a one nil home victory with one of the centre-backs getting a set-piece header seems like a good one.

On the other side of the coin tho, even if the other lot do go one up they're up against a Dundee United with a bit of flair who will at least try to win.

The more I think about Hibs' performance last weekend the angrier I get. I wrote this to try and get it out the system - http://forthewaywelivetoday.blogspot.com/2009/05/defenders-of-hibernian-part-2.html. Didn't work.

Cheers lads, defeat or failure lets treat these two impostors just the same...

Just to alleviate any doubt... I'm with ths Gordon Strachan doubting camp....

BUT I like every other doubter (I suspect) would give my right hand (and I'm right handed!) for celtic to win the League on Sunday even if Mr Strachan stays in charge as a result.

This League is a potential turning point.

When was the last time we won when we were not in poll position on the final day? This would quite simply completely remove the bitter memories of Martin's final failure.

Please let us win!

B

WG - ref James Connolly, ken? He was indeed a Burgher of Edina but as far as I know had no sporting allegiances. My grandparents lived on the same street as the Connollys in twe Cowgate, well Blackie actually but my Dad and my uncles, all of whom like Connolly were St Pat's boys, had a dual allegiance to Hibs and to St Bernard's. My dad reckons this was not uncommon in those days.

The area around the Coogait was an Irish ghetto made up mostly of families like my own who fled the Hunger in the mid-18th century. It was a hotbed of socialism and republicanism and I have some cracking stories of my firebrand nana and what she got up to on July 12!

Not checked this one out with my dad yet but St Bernards apparently had the original 'holy goalie' - a chap who played between the sticks for them but went on to become the moderator of the Church of Scotland!

CF and Pablo - it's a piece n jam (short for and) or a cheese piece but no a piece n cheese. A piece n butter aye, but no a piece n ham, a ham piece.

Thank you.

BromleyBhoy

When was the last time we won when we were not in poll position on the final day?

I reckon 1986, that's 23 years ago. Come on Celtic, you can do this.

BELIEVE

Mort

Mort,

It brings some comfort to me, knowing they have to resort to this in order to just catch a celtic team that is to be fair, capable of more and on a level playing field.. quite simply beyond them.

Believe

MG

mcgrain -

the Hibees claim him as their own........ but they don't huv US TWO !!!!

WG

MG

Yep, a wise man once said, we don't have to be just better than Rangers to win things, we need to be much, much better than them.

BELIEVE

Mort

Sunday is effectively our Cup Final for the season, but with the dice weighted in our favour.

Consider this:

In a straight Cup Final between Celtic, Celtic would only win it if they won and Rangers lost. There could be no scenario with either team drawing the match.

On Sunday, if Celtic win and Rangers lose or draw, Celtic will be Champions.

Celtic have won their last five home games, scoring 19 goals and conceding just 1, so why should we expect anything other than a straighforward win at home to Hearts? Then in two of the three possible outcomes from the Rangers game (a draw or a Dundee Utd home win) Celtic will be Champions. And Rangers have won on just 1 of their last 9 visits to Tannadice...

It is of course true that the title is Rangers' to throw away. But after Celtic lost 0-1 at home to Motherwell last season to leave Rangers leading the SPL 6 points with two games in hand, and Celtic having just 7 games remaining, the SPL title was Rangers' to throw away... and from that position it was a lot harder to throw away than where they are now. Yet they managed it.

They CAN do so again, and I believe they will.

BELIEVE!

McGrain

I didn't grow up in "a hotbed of socialism and republicanism", more's the pity, but if I'd asked for a cheese piece instead of a piece n cheese, parents would have prevented their weans from playing with me on the grounds of being too lah di dah.

PAUL67

the conspiracy in his case and that of "outed" others is not a theory ...imo it`s a fact

either that or it`s all a big unhappy coincidence

how high in the scale of naivety are we expected to be

PjDali

the Blog been a damn good read in recnt days......

I concur 100%. It was disappointing over the weekend after the Hibs result but understandable.

The turnaround in the tone and feel off the blog since Monday is testament to our host for his inspiring and mischievous articles, and to all the bloggers (be them clappy or shafty) for keeping their spirits up and BELIEVING.

BELIEVE

Mort

Mort on May 21, 2009 1:40 PM
mini gallagher

"On the subject i would like to ask, where was rangers "dignity" "pride" and "values" whe kevin thompson dived against us.

Or when Boyd dived against Dundee United. It starts after about 10 secs."

The manager was walter smith.....it was last season.....and the reason he said nothing was , there was no benefit to Rangers to him saying anything

Gordon Smith naturally said nothing, he never ever condems Rangers.....not for cheating, not for racism, not for sectarianism, not for their fans rioting and shaming the SFA

and why is this....is he a bigot ?....is he himself a racist ?

probably not in either case, so the question is why doesn't he speak up...he's not slow to open his mouth on a myriad of other subjects

the only conclusion that logically be be drawn, is that he is prejudice and lacks moral compass

when you add his economic and business incompetence, the decision to appoint him CEO of the SFA is and continues to be a scandal

Paul67

well done on the last 2 articles....it seems to have escaped Stuart Dougals reasoning that if he felt the Larkhall Masonic was an appropriate place and audience for him, then he should have continued with his booking.....if he is guilty of nothing, then no need to change your plans

cancelling the booking , in any neutrals eyes, would raise suspicions about the nature of the event

McGrain

You know how Edinburgh is always claiming oneupmanship over Glasgow?

Is that how your Irish ghetto started a century before ours?

Mort

well put.....we're all believers deep down just some of us show it differently.

Hail Hail!

How sweet will this title be if we do win it! The blue noses will hurt like the've never hurt before!!!!!!!!!!!! The forecast call for pain........

"Cheers lads, defeat or failure lets treat these two impostors just the same..."

Idiot! Sorry clearly should be "defeat or victory"

[hangs head]

Paul67

You are right

'score the first goal of the afternoon in Scotland, and then see who have the nerve for the battle.'

The most effective way for our game to have an influence on the Dundee United game is for us to score as early as possible, come out looking to be Champions from the first minute.

An early goal and get the mob up in Dundee as nervous as they were when Crimewatch was on, hopefully those nerves will transmit to the park and the bottle merchants and referee loose concentration.

Three early goals and I will run to Dundee to tell them the score.

We know what we need to do.

Yes We Can.

EN
we score 3 early goals and I'll give you a piggy back ride to Tannadice to tell them to score!!

:-)

.

Estadio....

I Believe the Stakes are the Same as....

Black Sunday 2005....

Tommy Burns Thursday 2008....

Only Were Playing at Home With 60,000 Extra 'Players'....Oh and BTW....WGS Has Only Had 1 Title Decider....And He Won....

It's All Down To Bottle....Forget the Points Totals....

001SimplisticCSC

Football related question.

What happened on this day in 1904?

Cyber pint to the first correct answer.

Vmhan
Hail Hail

Thanks Token Tim. yes I saw that, and will check them out, just wondered if anyone has any personal knowledge of the area and a good pub to go to (ideally in central Brighton as that's where I'll be abandoning the rest of my family when I nip off to watch the family)

barcabhoy on May 21, 2009 1:52 PM

Well said.
to give so much power to a biast fool is... unbelieveable...
Yet we must BELIEVE

(not in that tool, but in the mightly tims of course :D )

Jimmy Quinn hatrick against them ?

vmhan

FIFA was founded

Make mine a pint of Cyber ST Austall's Tribute.

Enjoyed the posts immensely this week. Nothing like a seige mentality to get every celtic fan singing from the same hymn sheet.

Agree estadio, the most effective way to influence Tannadice is to score early and also The most important thing at Parkhead is to back the team if we happen concede early.

Every Hoop must concentrate on a win come sunday, the rest will take care of itself.

G12

VMahn

The sun rose!

If we do win the league this Sunday it will be mainly down to Dundee United doing us a big favour in as much as they will have to take something from rangers even if we beat hearts. Therefore wishing to tempt fate I would like to nominate 'TANGERINE SUNDAY' as how we should remember the the day supposing we do achieve 4IAR, sounds an awful lot better than Black Sunday 2!

The Narrowbhoat Tim on May 21, 2009 2:12 PM

Well done ......you're dynamite! to easy for ye methinks.

ST Austall's Tribute-------------> to you TNT.

vmhan
Hail Hail

that should of course say 'without wishing to tempt fate' - sorry about that.

.

Vmhan....

George Orwell Had the First Ever Typo Error....With 1904....

007

PjDal @ 1.34

Pj,

Some good points well made. While we obviously need to look after our own game on Sunday, there are some differences for the Foe Malign to contend with: first, they're not playing at Ibrox, which is important in my view. Assuming we win, nothing less than a win in Dundee is good enough for them.

Secondly, the Tic will be up 100% up for the game of Sunday (if they're not, then all is lost, anyway).

So, we're right to expect the worse, but hope for the best.

As for the odds not being great ... if you hope for the best you might also be interested in a (widely available) price of 5/2 against Celtic lifting the title: if we lose, you're not going to be noticeably more miserable for having lost a tenner; if we win, you can buy the first round at the bar!

Inthesurehopeofsalvation.csc

My comfort blanket is on the opening page of the blog.

CELTIC STATS

All Competitions

HOME: W W W W W

Anyone got Rangers away stats?

SACK GORDON!

As a Scot Im thoroughly disgusted by how the game is run in Scotland,I have absolutely no confidence in the abilities of the decision makers and especially that of Gordon Smith,he was never qualified in the first place and continually finds himself making public announcements which are damage limitation excercises for not only his administration but also for one club in particular,this is not the sign of a well run and healthy concern such as the professional football game in Scotland.

Since Gordon Smith's appointment my passion for the national side has waned significantly and for a Scot living in England,that is saying something.It is also alarming that the fans of another SPL club,fans which support the club whom have a hatred of my own supported club,have also expressed,on many occasions,their contempt and non confidence in not only the national administration,the national team but also incredibly, the national teams fanbase,so my feelings cannot be described as agenda driven.

Gordon Smith must be sacked and the representation in the governing body of the game in Scotland needs to be radically overhauled in order to ensure fairness and to restore the confidence back to not just Scotland fans but also the fans of all its member clubs.

SACK GORDON!

Greg on May 21, 2009 2:10 PM

Seeing as ye ask,

There's an Irish bar near Scotland street which may have it on, oh and they do live music......can't remember the name it was a long time ago old age etc

Brightons a nice place enjoy.

vmhan

vmhan

Can you ask the landlord to top up the Cyber Pint as the head on it is more of a Bishop's collar than a Priest's collar.

No three-quarters pint measures for me

Cheers

BTW, my thanks to BUKOWSKI for his very generous donation of £125 for big wavy's ticket for Sunday. His donation was received in to the helpingmartin@gmail account yesterday and big wavy has sent the ticket to him. Let's hope the Post Office do their bit and BUKOWSKI is there in person on Sunday to cheer on the boys to Four-In-A-Row !

pablophanque

.

Naw-Am-Urny....

Since It Could Be Nakas Last Game....How About....

Kyoko Day....

001

Kyoko....Tranlates to 'Baby Orange' in Japanese....

WG - I have cousin who still speaks to me through clenched teeth because of my defection west to Paradise at the age of 4 some 42 years ago. Having not seen the man in 20 years, at a recent chance encounter in one of those salubrious establishments that there are on Goargie Road, the first thing he said (through those clenched teeth and with no shortage of ire) was 'Are you still supportin' that lot through there then?'!

CF - mid-19c! There was no hotbed of anything by the time my parents migrated to the leafy and spacious, but uncentrally heated suburb of Stenhoose. A joose boatil full o hoat water kept the nip oot at night!

And I repeat...

piece n jam, piece n butter
cheese piece, ham piece, egg piece

Ask yourself, a piece n egg? You mean an egg piece, don't you?

Don't ask me why, it just is, no matter what Kelman says.

McGrain

Afternoon all,

I got this sent to me by a mate, don't know how true it is but funny anyway.

Celtic fan signs up on a Rangers forum, makes a couple of posts and no-one is any the wiser he's a Celtic fan.

Then he makes a thread saying

Quote:
If you want tickets for next week's title decider away to Dundee United, read here...

Since the away allocation for Rangers fans of 5000 is long sold out.
Tickets
for the home end is the only solution.

But as we all know, if your not on Dundee United's official club/supporter database then you won't even be able to buy tickets for the home end.

Here's what to do..
Phone up the club shop. And ask to buy a pair of Dundee United kit socks. Don't even mention tickets for Sunday or they will become suspicious. Then when they take your sock order, personal details and process your payment your details will then be stored on their system.

Give it a few hours until there's a shift change, phone up again and order your home tickets for the Rangers match and beacuse of your sock order,

you will be on their system and you will get your match tickets. It's perfect lads.

Turns out, there's no such database and all these Rangers fans have ended up with hundreds of pairs of Dundee United socks and no match tickets.

AFB

**********************************************************************

Bardford Bhoy, take a look at the FA`s opening campaign for their world cup bid, now thats a shambles of a national administration.

Agree with GS when it comes to GORDON, he`s there to take all the critisim on the chin for the SFA.

IMO the media are very harsh on him

McGrain

Is it piece n prawn or prawn piece?

By Naw-am-urny-Bhoy on May 21, 2009 2:14 PM

I think "TANGERINE" (SUNDAY) is far better than a more vauge discription of our hopefull heros shirts colour!

hail hail

An Fear Beag

I suppose their only consolation is they have a nice bright pair of orange socks!!

Kirklee

Add to that the sheer embarrassing failure of the lack of sponsorship of the flagship Cup competition.

Something needs to change.

Sofa CSC 001

I like it - Kyoko Sunday - cemented of course if Naka actually scores.

Lets be honest - if we win the league who will care what its called!

hahahah agreed mini gallagher

Posted at 1:56

"Get the mob up in Dundee as nervous as they were when Crimewatch was on"

Brilliant.

412K26, Rangers away games in reverse order (most recent first):

D W W W W W D D W W

Boatfholk are fussy……TNT, when originally sending you’re well won cyber pint, said pint was full and was emblazoned with a fairly voluptuous looking frothy head on it, somewhere in cybertim land it has been hijacked by an unseen hand from the dark side.

Yir missing frothy heed is not my responsibility sir.

It Wisnyme an I’ll naw dae it againCSC

:¬)

Vmhan
Hail Hail

Their away record does nothing to raise any confidence that they'll falter on Sunday....

DD

Donegal Danny

The way I read it, they're due a defeat.

DD

Their away record at Tannadice does.

.

Naw-Am-Urny-Bhoy....

Agreed Who Cares as Long as We Win....Kyoko is My Wee Now Big Ghirls Name....

Hail Hail....

001

donegaldanny

any confidence?

is it the fact when they last played away to the teams directly below them up to 7th in the league Hibs,Celtic,Murderwell,Dundee United,Aberdeen and Hearts this season they have not won.

our is it the one win at tannadice in 5 years(nine games)

FIAR

Ulster-Celt

Hi Paul

I'm surprised they have not used the carrot for Levein of the possibility of taking over at ibrox next year as Mccoist seems reticent (out of his depth) to take over. I remember a previous game at Tannadice Uncle Walter and Craig Levein sitting in the stand together during the game.......... or maybe there have been behind the scenes discussion?...Conspiracy?.........

Next year - Craig Levein manager of Ragers...... watch this space!

hi ghuys

this is to anyone,,,,,if anyone has seen the bumblebee strip,,,,could they post a link on here so that we can see it,please,,,,cheers ghuys,,,,

hail hail

001 bhoy (secret squirrel)

:¬)

are ye going along to the club amigo? it'll be good to meet ye.

vmhan
Hail Hail

Donegal Danny, the last time they drew away after a win away, they then drew away again. They are due another away draw.

You are right Bradford Bhoy, their record at Tannadice reads, in reverse order:

D D D L L W D D D L

(It's actually 1 win in 10 games!)

Celtic_First on May 21, 2009 2:33 PM

hahahaha any thoughts of a possible disaster were twarted with a simple yet very exellent point! I love your thinking!

hail hail

MG

As the song goes,..

"walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart, and you'll never walk alone."

Well, sure won't, 60,000 & i'll be in there.

My personal thoughts & views have been all over the place this year. Some of the football has been bland at times,.. and i did consider not renewing my season ticket. The deed is done, my seat & i won't be getting a divorce. See there are times in a relationship when you just have to go through the motions, there are bad times, good times, ok times. Then there are times when the earth moves,.. & sunday promises to be that. I just hope nobody catches me arguing with my seat over who's doing the dishes!!

Whatever thre outcome on sunday i've convinced myself on this so i'll try & sell it,..

We win the league, great! we tried our best with what we had, players/funds availible.
Rangers finish 2nd, and do,... somehow,... fluke in to the champions league groups. They get some money which evaporates as soon as it hits the bank,.. They are still in trouble lets no forget that.

Can't write this,.. but the good Lord forbid,.. they,.. they,.. they,.. You know!

well we'll just have to spend on quality, we get an improved product on the park to get us into the champions league group stage, happy days!!

And one last thing,.. everyone knows they're cheating their way through this, just like last time.
So what if they get a cup!
They'll still be skint and we have our heads held high, and when its rubbed in as people have have tried on me i just point out the obvious and the slow realisation coupled with the support of other non Celtic or rangers fans removes the gunpowder from their smug bullets!!

Living the dream,.... I'll never walk alone.

DD

The only away game won in last 10 vs top 6 team was at hibs 3-2.

in fact the only top 6 team they have beaten away this season apart from hibs is celtic !!!

Although it will all be academic come Sunday, for what it's worth, United's recent home record is D D D D L D.

And their last 6 games against Rangers:

Rangers 2 0 Dundee Utd. 31/01/2009
Dundee Utd. 2 2 Rangers 13/12/2008
Rangers 3 3 Dundee Utd. 04/11/2008
Rangers 3 1 Dundee Utd. 10/05/2008
Dundee Utd. 3 3 Rangers 06/04/2008
Rangers 2 0 Dundee Utd. 05/01/2008

So that 3 draws and 3 rangers wins (2 of those in Glasgow).

5/2 ... don't say you didn't know.

paul67,

It looks like Bougherra will be playing sunday - what even gives you the slightest glimmer hope that he wont Paul?

t'boo

Oops: should of course have said "all of those in Glasgow"

Better still.

All

Yes well I'm not getting my hopes up as I've found in football, especially when talking about our rivals, when you most expect something it never happens.

All we can do is beat Hearts and hope for the best.

Whoever the Captain is on Saturday I hope they live up to it as I think since Lennon hung up his boots we've missed a leader on the pitch.

Here's hoping...

DD

CF - Ah'm mair o a poated heid piece man, likesay.

But nivir a piece n poated hied, ken?

Gallowgate, thanks for your kind words.

PF ayr, grand master high.

Barcabhoy, it does indeed, thanks.

Estadio Nacional, yes, we will touch on that before Sunday.

Freddiebhoy, I think Craig Levine will have his eye on the immediate prize on Sunday.

Ulster-Celt, BigChips, thanks for the stats.

Ticketyboo, while the matter is still live, no stone should be unturned, no effort unmade.

ibleedgreenandwhite

http://www.celticfcprints.net/pictures_485929/paolo-di-canio.html

craggy

McGrain

All this talk of food is making me hungry. Glad I didn't have the fortitude or generosity to go on a diet for Kano.

Hope all is well with the diet, the expanding family and life in Murcia.

Not for the first time, a Scottish referee has made a peculiar decision in murky circumstances that favours The Establishment Club. Thank God that sites like this exist, for us to try & fathom/discuss exactly what we are up against on an annual basis

The Establishment Club, The Governing Body of the game, The Head of The Players Union & The Scottish Tabloid Media's reaction to Dougals decision sounds like a generic press release from the one organisation? Co-incidentally the focus has somehow switched from the blatant cheating of a Rangers Player to testimonials confirming the integrity of Stuart Dougal & then swiftly onto loaded comments inferring Celtic Paranoia. Ideal preperation for winning a League eh?

Fundamentally all i ask is that Celtic can compete in an environment with transparency & fairness, regardless of whether we win lose or draw. That Celtic Football Club do not challenge the paramaters & botched rules of the SFA on an executive level is a disgrace & a slap in the face to the support

Anyway Lets stick together & just win this league on Sunday

craggy

cheers mate,,,,,but i meant the new one,,,,thanks anyway,,,

CF & McGrain

As they used to say, pre-Vatican II: "Pax vobiscum".

Breaking News:

Rueters:
The SPL have announced that dues to the number of Rangers fans who have purchased tickets for the home supporters' sections on Sunday, their game is being moved to Ibrox. A spokesperson for the SPL said: "Given the incredible demand for tickets for the match this was the only sensible option open to us. After all, Ibrox has a capacity of 51,000 while Tannadice only accommodates 14,000. And we will be doing our bit for the environment too, by removing the need to use a highly polluting helicopter to deliver the trophy at the end of the game."

Ends.

That's why we're paranoid.

Bumblebee Top

pablophanque

Ps, do you think those three Ghuys know the results on Sunday ???

donegaldanny

last year going into the final days fixtures all the talk was of how many goals the huns were going to score to enable them to win the league on goal difference, in fact billy dodds and the likes thought Celtic would not even win at United so it wasn't important how many they would get.I listened to them talk of 5 and 6 nil score lines.

you know how that turned out.

FIAR

Ulster-Celt

ibleedgreenandwhite

I didn't know we had a new bumblebee strip.

You mean the Celtic-tartan one?

The opposition in Edinburgh a few years ago to the proposal to name one of the Meadows walks after its famous son, James Connolly, tells you all you need to know about Scotland. It also puts to bed this myth that sectarianism is a west coast issue.

Just in case anyone is in dangers of withdrawal symptoms from the football I notice a major cup final in the offing next week at Tynecastle.

St Aloysius College (the only catholic independent school in Scotland) travel to the east to take on Geroge Watsons College in the Scottish Schools Cup Final.

Ironically St Aloysius has won the Scottish Rugby Cup on 5 occassions and are playing the best Rugby playing School in Scotland who have never won the Rugby Cup in this soccer final. In my day at St Aloysius they would never have allowed us to have a football team, how times have changed.....and good to see them progress to the final for the 2nd year in a row.

Not sure who the ref is, or what post match after dinner speaking engagements he has, but there is sure to be the usual rivalry between the teams from differing backgrounds. I notice the venue is literally a stones throw from the Watsons school, but i am not suggesting any bias at all !

The game is on Thursday night at Tynecastle.

Folly Folly ... on May 21, 2009 2:42 PM

at least it won't be boring... from the record it shows that they both score goals! lets just hope the home team score more in glasgow and dundee!!

Believe ! ! !

MG

pablo

do you reckon that the bumblebee top is for real???

001 vmhan

What time does The Club open?

Going by local pubs I always thought a Sunday was a 12.30 ko.

Not sure about pubs before games, only done it three times this season,

Dundee United Home 2-2
Glasgow Derby Away (recent)
Hibernian away 0-0

Must be drinking the wrong way.

EN

Burnley 78

were you at St Al's? I left in 1986...before the football team started..

ibleedgreenandwhite

Pablophanque

Sorry, I can't see tinypic.com from work PC (websense)
Will check it out when I get home.

craggy

maleys bhoy

Just watch: this could turn out to be like a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous, what with all the OAs who frequent this site!

(e.g. I left in 77)

craggy

nice to see you are working hard my friend,,,,lol,,,,

hail hail

ibleedgreenandwhite, I think that's a Photshop effort that came from the Huddleboard, but I've heard it talked about for the last 3 yars. I hope to god it's not true. Hated it the first time and hope never to see it again !!!

pablophanque

DD,

You are absolutely right to focus on what we need to do at home against the jambos but I'm taking solace in the fact that with the huns there are seeds of doubt in their mind that could help us, namely :

- Their poor recent record at Tannadice ;
- The DUFC manager seems to have the indian sign on them ;
- The fact that DUFC have everything to play for (centenary, European footie, grievances, full hoose, etc)
- Their relatively ropey away form in the league ;
- Their inability to win the 'must win' games ;
- Their inability to seize any initiative from our poor performances ;
- The sheer presssure on them of NOT winning the league financially. Some are playing for their livelihoods.

They may do it but have we considered the enormous amount of pressure on them to deliver and find something from their mettle / performance / cojones that they've failed to demonstrate to date.

DUFC stick to their gameplan, frustrate and create chances to win coupled with us hitting the onion bag early doors. I can truly see us do this.

Onwards to 4IAR

Big believin' Wavy

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Contrary, absurd and downright irrelevant views will, of course, continue to be welcome.

I put my memebership of AA down to being at that school :-)

Got a text last night

The final day will fast approach,
we'll rely on Lennon to be our coach.
Always remember to keep the faith,
until in the end the league is safe.
The flag is flying in the paradise breeze,
let's take on the hearts and win with ease.
We'll keep it there for another year,
in every huns eye we'll see a tear.
So come on Utd and come on the Tic,
let's make these orange barstewards sick.
Here we go FIAR and faithfull through and through,
BELIEVE

pablo

I think that one is a photoshop job but unlike you I quite liked the old version and I still have a pair of the shorts lying around the house somewhere.

If they are bringing back a bumble-bee top, I hope it's more like the original than that one.

BELIEVE

Mort

CF - The weightloss campaign has been really challenging and interesting and I'm 7kg down. I have 3 weeks to go (thanks Kit you wereright), so the 15kg target is looking unlikely, but 10 for sure, maybe 12.

The family are all very well and Mrs McGrain has 3 weeks to go on her 40 week weightgain campaign! It's got pretty warm out here this past week so she's toiling a bit but she and the baby are well.

Folly Folly - my point exactly - you wouldny say 'you be with piece' would you?

craggy, try this.............

Bumbles

pablophanque

Mcgraininspain, if you nip across the water to Morocco and go for a 2 week trekking holiday in the High Atlas Mountains, I am pretty sure you'll manage to lose another 7kg, leaving just one more kg to lose during the other week.

When I undertook such a holiday I got an upset tummy on day 1 which continued for the entire duration of my trip, and I returned home a stone lighter!

Paul67

Contrary, absurd and downright irrelevant views will, of course, continue to be welcome.

Phew. Thank goodness for that.

I hope the friday jokes are still allowed. Don't worry, mine are never anything you would need to delete. Actually most of them aren't even funny.

BELIEVE

Mort

P.S. Can I be a moderator, I promise to only delete posts I don't agree with ;-)

Paul67,

If the bloggers post initially with their studs up and have their posts deleted, is there an appeals process if the moderators are suitably 'influenced' after the event ?

And where do we stand on 'absurd' personal attacks ?

:)

Too many shades of grey csc

Big Wavy

I left in 1970 .When I was there the rugby team didnt even play in a league . I see Fr Granger Banyard ( Bert) is still on the go.

bring back the dustbin!

is 001 a mod?

quadrofenians

FIAR

Ulster-Celt

via_nirone,

Thanks for your reply yesterday. I would just refer you to Paul67's article. He says it much better than I. Unfortunately, this is the reality in 21st century Scotland. Oh that it were not. Maybe 1 day. In the meantime, however, roll on Sunday and may the good ghuys win.

WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED.

So who are these moderators then? by that I mean are they already posting on here? Can they be trusted to be 'objective'? And 'personal attacks' on whom? other bloggers, CFC employees, RFC employees? Curiouser and curiouser.

Maley's bhoy

Your not currently resident somewhere in Ireland, are you?

TLWIO

"You're" , even

See Kafflik schools, see education...

They might be in the masons for all we know - Ed could be one!

Moderator? as in ..of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland? Nice of him/her to take time out of a busy day to police a Celtic blog. Wait for all anti Rangers posts to be deleted...or am I applying stereotypes?

TLWIO

Not only that, but your parents paid exra!

Estadio Nacional,

I couldn't say, though I'm sure it'll be in line with local licensing notifications....

or it usually opens when we roll off the bus....:¬)

Sorry but I'm being deliberately evasive and hope ye read between the lines.

************************* and while I'm passing time here....

Passing time, passing time, everyone is passing time, everyone the whole night through is passing time like me and you.

Question 1. As sung by?

vmhan

The moderators should be Donald Finlay QC, Walter Smith and Stuart Dougal. In case of any disputes, appeals can be directed to the CQN appeals committee consisting of Gordon Smith, Jim Farry, John Bomber Brown anfd JoshyBhoy

I vote for Canamalar to be a CQN Moderator

Vmhan

Jimmy Johnstone. B-side to the recording of Over and Over.

Gulity as charged on the O.A. front!

Due to be married there in 3 weeks.

Lubo1977 is also an O.A.

And yes, A.A. has just as many.

Father B was in great fettle the last time we saw him, still giving plenty of chat to the ladies!

SAW CSC

I vote for Peter Grant

Folly Folly at 3.04pm.

'...this could turn out to be like a meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous.'

Agree. BTW, my name is Gallowgate and I am a Celtic supporter.

Maley's bhoy

I left the college 30 year ago today !

Funnily enough it is an aniversary I will always remember !

10 men won the league, and I did my last Higher !

In my day the big football event was the 5 a sides in summer term, especially when at the primary school.

Mr McCabe used to give us 1/2 days off school if celtic were playing European games away in the afternoon.

moderators???

as big wavy has pointed out wheres the appeals process??

and does a further career on the after dinner circuit follow??

visagecsc

John McCabe, what a man!

Used to live in Harelaw Ave, one along from me in Kingsford.

G44 CSC.

Mort, what would that leave us with?

big wavy, yes, an independent arbitration process is a great idea. I hear there are some fine people in Larkhall with experience of this kind of thing.

.

Ulster-Celt....

I'm a Dyslexic Punk Deleter in Moderation....

001PunkModSoulJazzCSC

PS. Paul67....Mate if this Saves You Even A Very Little of Effort you Could be Spending With Your Young Family....The Closest Number to 100% Of The Celtic Family that Frequent this Blog Will Be Happy Tonight....Hail Hail o1bhoy....

It's actually like the Masons in here.

Anyone know any good after dinner speakers?

WeAreNotACliqueCSC

I'm a moderator. Anyone slagging aff wee Gordon will have their post deleted instantly.

FreeSpeechNotCSC.

Paul67,

Easy on the Larkhall chat. Unfortunately for me I was born there and baptised at St.Mary's.

Fine compaby though with the McStay's.

Larkhall No 1 BELIEVE CSC

Celtic_First

If you're talking about "Passing Time" by the wee man, I'm fairly sure it was the b side to the AWFUL "Celtic Are Here". Passing Time was, and still is a brilliant song IMHO.

ibleedgreenandwhite 3.05

Likewise ;-)

Pablo 3.09

Cheers pal, but this system blocks just about anything, and it blocked it again there. Will check it out later on.

Hail Hail

craggy

Paul67 - This is a disgrace. I completely and totally disagree with your... what, the baby's turned into pig? analysis of contemporary third wave feminism.

BigChipsUK - yeah I know - call myself committed? There is something in there about being a lightweight but I think I should perhaps just leave it for this afternoon.

Ionesco CSC

The Battered Bunnet. Once again, that odious little man McGuire/Martin sits at his laptop and writes utter pish. The only thing of any value in this article is the advice that Dougal should have gone along time ago. I agree with Martin/McGuire on this point but my reasons are different from his. I think Dougal was an incompetent referee just as I think Martin/McGuire is a poor excuse for a journalist. He should take his own advice and chuck it. McGuire/Martin makes the same mistakes as his colleagues who promote every incompetent referee to “Scotland's No.1 official”. How many No1 officials can Scotland have at the same time?

St. Anne's Whitechapel CSC

Awalkacrosstherooftops posting this list of interesting speakers earlier:

http://www.stoneyport.co.uk/bbspecials/index.html

BELIEVE

Mort

Celtic_First….correct….It was indeed the late, great, Jinky Johnstone

And Question no. 2 is what was the A side of that ……doh!

:¬)

Vmhan
Hail Hail

Gents (or any ladies - wouldn't want to be seen as sexist and have my post removed!)

going to tennerife at the end of next week, sadly miss the TB game.
anybody know of any good places to catch the game?

assuming its on TV?....

Im going to Playa de las americas for anybody in the know.

Cheers.

MG

Burnley 78

Good luck to St Al's in their final, but it's not the only Catholic independent school in Scotland.

Conspiracy Loonies
LOL....
So Mr Martin is Coincidence Looney then....?
Preoccupied with Conditioning Loonies...?

Of course he is.
That's the whole purpose of the Master he Serves...
The Auld Media.

Justice Will Prevail...

lawbhoy - the moddies are gonna get ye!

Singing ah'm no a moddie, ah'm a slim

gallowgate

Perhaps like Spartacus we should all say "I'm a moderator"?

Apologies to all for starting the St Aloysius chat !

Would be good if anyone who was in the Edinburgh area could get to Tynecastle on Thursday night to give St Aloysius some support. They will be wearing the Green Gold and White.

The Watsons team will have a massive support (they are a huge sporting school which has produced the likes of Chris Hoy and the Hastings Brothers ).

One final comment which might resonate with anyone who went to St Als and played rugby was how original the lineout codes for other schools were .....1690 / King Billy etc etc....and each of these schools thought they were so clever !

Before DBBIA gets in there to say it.

Modern Moderators are Rubbish!!

I prefer Old School Monitors

ModeratorsClique CSC

Mini Glagher

There are Loads of Celtic pubs in Las Americas. You'll be fine.

Mort

Bill McMurdo - should he not be in the after dinner mumbler category?

Vmhan

Might have to bow to Paulsatim on the A side, but I agree with him that Passing Time should have been the A side.

I know because a Greenockian friend of mine used to sing it all the time. And I was with him once when we got to meet Jinky (God rest him). John, my pal, was star-struck like I was, and unusually for him a bit stuck for words. The only thing he did manage to blurt out was nothing to do with Lisbon, the Di Stefano testimonial or anything, just that he thought Passing Time was magic and that wee Jimmy was a brilliant singer.

The wee mhan had a look on his face that said: "Just when you think you've heard everything ...".

Celtic_First

Sorry if I got that wrong. I thought it was the only one left.

Hey , Folly , folly!

Its "extra".

At least I had the manners to correct my error...

:¬))

DD

Abbreviation denoting:

CQN poster "Decidedly Doubtful"

and

Rangers form in their final two games away from home in season 2008/09

:¬)

vmhan

I understand :~)

Cheers

EN

Paul67

Can you abuse fellow posters and do all the things you say we shouldn't if we put a wee smiley face at the end of the posts to show that we are sort of joking? :-)

BELIEVE

Mort

Maleys bhoy

I noted that Dr F QC was a top table guest at the Rangers Dinner on Monday.

CAN Any of You OA absolve me of my sins ?

In my youth we used to pelt the young boys who used to have to wear shorts even in the winter with Snow Balls as they hung about outside our school for the bus.

It has always cast a shadow over me you know the Catholic guilt thing.

TLWI

And here was me thinking I'd got away with it. D'oh.

Belated apologies now tendered ...

stillcrapattouchtyping.csc

Celtic_First

NO! Surely not! Were you a Fernhill girl?

PJ is an OA too.....

Moderators, sort The Battered Bunnet out, please.

jc2

Only if you promise to BELIEVE

Otherwise we are coming for you.

StillGotSoreLegsFromThoseShorts CSC

jcs

Absolved.

Unless you were one of the Smithycroft mob who regularly beat seven bells out of us on the way back from Millerston...

TLWIO

Fernhill isn't running any more. Neither is Fort Augustus, but Kilgraston is.

New bumblebee top:-

I take it the sun's story that the picture was down to a Nike worker in Madrid going into finbars home of the CSC in Madrid and asking for the fans thoughts on the new top is a lot of tosh then!

ilikethenewtopifitisindeedthenewtopcsc

I don't believe all you ghuys are OAs.

I asked McGrain if it was more correct to say piece n prawn or prawn piece and not one of you chimed in.

To all you fellow OAs apparently frittering the afternoon away on here (albeit, perhaps, since we can't concentrate on our work because we're so up tight about Sunday) ... what the heck does this say about the values we learned at school?

Hail, Hail, anyway.

And for the very last time: 5/2 for the title: sieze the odds!

Mort,

I think that idea is totaly stupid!

you are a very silly person!

shame on you. i dont like you... :)

haha

hail hail

From the Beeb

Rangers defender Kirk Broadfoot will be sidelined until November following surgery on his left foot.

There is no evidence to suggest the injury was caused when Broadfoot trod on a rake causing it to propel upwards and whack him on the forehead.

Buster Keating CSC

Falkirkbhoy

Where'd you hear it was tosh? The jersey in the sun looks pretty genuine, I'd be amazed if its not the new away top.

notDecidelyDoubtfulaboutthestripCSC

DD

Celtic first

Fernhill is alive and kicking.

TLWIO

Celtic_First

I didn't realise that Kilgraston was Catholic. Beautiful grounds there.

I should have qualified it with Independent Schools which allow boys !

The Celtic residential Summer Camps for kids are held there.

Is the jersey in The Sun you're discussing the same as the picture Pablo posted earlier?
I quite like it, my only issue is with the badge. It looks odd in those colours, they should perhaps have it on an emblem of sorts, like on the previous bumblebee strip.

JC2

I too was involved in snowballing the short-trousered 'College' boys. To this day, when I meet an OA through work I am still slightly taken aback to see that they tend to wear long trousers to work.

JC

TLWIO

Apologies. I didn't realise.

th long wait is over

You are correct re Fernhill.

Steve McManus wife teaches there...I don't think it has a secondary intake of boys does it ?

Mini gallagher 3.34
The Chieftan Las Americas
The Irish Welcome Los Christianos
The Irish Fiddler San Eugenio

donegaldanny

i agree with you

just the comments before mine, saying it was a photoshop make up.

Drunken Lullabies,

I agree entirely. The badge is WOEFUL!

Keep the real badge!

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Very Good Headline Point Paul and regarding "Contrary, absurd and downright irrelevant views will, of course, continue to be welcome" can I just say that Stuart Dougal is a man who's integrity is beyond question as is Gordon's, Walter's and Fraser's and as for Sir David? well, if you dont mind I'd rather not say.............
Lookingforwardto4IARCSC

Burnley 78

No primary only and even then not sure if its all the way to p7.

MG

Deleted. Abusive

Oh there's a smiley at the end. OK, re-instated on appeal.

BELIEVE

Mort

Why does someone always do this? It's so frustrating and counter productive! wheesht sammi

Drunken

Didn't see the link but the badge in the sun looks normal just in the luminous colours of the strip.

Falkirk

have only seen the Sun version and looks genuine to me, don't like round collars though.

DD

Folly Folly

AMDG and all that .......but a wee break from the grind is ok from time to time especially as productivity is not too good this week as focus is easily distracted !

Celtic First

The refectory at the College sold deep fried pizzas, empire biscuits and sausage rolls like all good schools did back then.

Prawn pieces...

aye right

Great Quote from Big Eck, he makes me smile "Celtic have the experience of winning the last three titles and know what it takes, but Rangers have massive experience in terms of those who have played at the highest level." - Who that then be Mr Eck?

the long wait is over...

I'm not living in Ireland live in G72 area of Glasgow. Most of my dad's family from Ireland though (Limivady).
Mum's side are the ones who gave me my CQN username. Related to the great man himself.
JC2 - those snowballs used to hurt when they skelped our wee peely wally grey shorted legs.

No more personal attacks? Could this be the end for the resident pit bull blogger Canalamar?

.

Vmhan....from Earlier....

Hopefully Will Be in Da Club Pre Game....Will Know nearer The Time....Classified....

001

The Token Tim

Whats wrong with the badge? It looks normal in the Sun? Just luminous. I can't acces the link posted earlier is there another picture of the strip elsewhere?

DD

Ive just taken the time to read one of the related articles atop the home page,there was me thinking Feeney might help out the hun but I see hes knackered n punted back to his own club,GOOD FOR HIM!

JOHHNYCASH

you say they wear trousers in work but i am sure they slip
into something more comfortable in the evening
Maybe a nice pair of lederhosen.

So having been absolved of that all i need is to get the one Rangers supporter in my primary class to forgive for the torture we used to inflict on him.

MYNAMEISEARLCSC and i do believe

SydneyTim from 12:40. Setanta are showing the Celtic game on Setanta 2.

Burnley

It's his sister, or else we have a bigger problem than dodgy refereeing!

Burnley

That's good enough for me.

Though, if I'd tried to say that it would probably have come out as ADMG.

iusedtobedyslexicbutnowimko.csc

JC2 - keep your boys in lederhosen fantasies to yourself....remember Paul's new rules

DD

The badge was what made me think it was a photoshop job but the picture might just be lower resolution than in the sun.

I agree with you about the round collar. Not my cup of tea.

BELIEVE

Mort

All podium related, milline-post related, etc., posts to be deleted.

All posts in txt speak to be deleted.

All posts over 10 lines long to be deleted.

All posts cut n pasting stuff already cut n pasted to be deleted.

All posts with apostrophes erroneously placed in plurals to be deleted.

Does that about cover it?

Cleaningupthe blog CFC

DD

Aye, that's what the badge looks like in these pics too. It's not horrendous, I'd just prefer something closer to the old bumblebee shirt.

freveranever

Quite!

Silly boy

Mort on May 21, 2009 4:02 PM

Didn't even have to phone my mates down the lol to get my post reduced to a yellow! service with a smile!! :)

dessybhoy on May 21, 2009 3:58 PM

cheers! i'll have to check them out right away as i get there the day of the game! hail hail

MG

Gordon_J says:

All podium related, milline-post related, etc., posts to be deleted.

:-(

But the podium and the chase for the podium brings so much joy to so many.

On that topic, could an unscrupulous moderator delete the first few posts on a new article so he can have the first post?

BELIEVE

Mort

mcgraininspain - I heard Bazza poked him in the eyes and he was too late in putting up his hand to block.

Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

from that BBC article on Samaras

"This term, Celtic have relinquished an eight-point advantage to leave Rangers within one win of wrenching the title back."

We were 7 points clear for one week but never 8... or a meringue?

Mort,

I'm not sure, but I think that cheating to get the first post could just about be the only thing sadder than actually wanting the first post in the first place!

:-)

Mort on May 21, 2009 4:21 PM

Such power in the wrong hands would almost certainly bring the game (of going for podium) into disripute!!

these are dangerous times...

MG

maleys bhoy

I believe you and I cut about together as youngsters.

When I left george watsons 8 years ago we'd only been allowed an organized football team for just over a year, all rugger until then, nor doing too bad for them selves

From Wiki

Moderator
The moderators (short singular form: "mod") are users (you can say that again) of the forum which are granted access to the posts and threads of all members for the purpose of moderating discussion (similar to arbitration) and also keeping the forum clean (neutralising spam and spambots etc). So in other words they are Jannies throw down sawdust on the posters vomit.

I don't know Scooby but that Janitor looks mighty suspicious

I would've gotten away with it, if it weren't for you meddling Moderators

Spambots CSC

Notes from the Underground

...A conspiracy theory is a term that has come to refer to any tentative theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by usually powerful Machiavellian conspirators, such as a "secret team" or "shadow government".

... The term is therefore often used dismissively in an attempt to characterize a belief as outlandishly false and held by a person judged to be a crank or a group confined to the lunatic fringe. Such characterization is often the subject of dispute due to its possible unfairness and inaccuracy...

Fine, good - I get all that.

Where I'm stuck is...

Are we the conspiracy theorists?

Or is this a conspiracy theory of his own making? About us being a 'secret team' of conspiracy theorists?

...?

Uly

For the last time, there was nothing whatsoever to read into Mr Dougal agreeing to speak at an ecumenical charitable dinner at a Masonic lodge in Larkhall one week after helping Rangers cheat their way into an advantageous position last Saturday.

It was just a series of coincidences.

By Burnley'78 on May 21, 2009 12:50 PM

Yup the implications of our failing to win the title will be a lot less disasterous for us than it will be for them.

If we assume straight qualification into the CL means £15m to the winners and finishing bottom of the group - a fate likely for whoever wins the SPL title - means no further European money then the £15M will be very welcome to Lloyds if Rangers get it. It will not go on team strengthening. It will go to pay the gamble SDM took in signing Mendez, Davis, Lafferty and Miller and reducing their debt. Reducing it not removing it.

Their highest earner is already on his way and if £15K a week is to be their ceiling ( Iheard it mentioned on Clyde) well that does not buy any quality at today's prices (although I think they might fall).

The whole point about the importance of taking part in the CL was that the income could be used to give the Scottish participant greater financial advantage over their main rivals. However that will apply this year whether Celtic win the title or not.

Its just that instead of having an extra £15M to play with we will only have whatever we get from the qualifying matches and the Europa Cup for we have no dent to repay.

Lets call it £5M. Add to that getting Balde off the wage bill and other deadwood and Celtic are still much the stronger in finacial terms (how we use that strength is of course another matter but it will still exist.)Finally we could still get £6M for Boruc if we decided that his money was needed to strengthen other positions.

So whilst the media might carry on with its misleading headline game of highlighting the amount, if it continues to cloud their support on what it means in real terms, then power to their elbow.

How we benefit from our position of solidity and strengthen is of course the debate for the close season, but it is one in which the Celtic support will be able to indulge (even if we are a few million short if we are SPL runners up) in and one the Rangers support will be denied unless they are bought over.

St. Anne's Whitechapel, I’ll try to be easy on Larkhall. On another matter.... last week I was hearing about the stag night you were at in Manchester. Hmmm.

Mcgraininspain, wayyyyyy over my head.

Mort, I suspect you can charm you way with anything.

Now today tomorrow... ha!

What happened to collars on football top??

Still have them on GAA tops and I much prefer that.
Sadly Donegal still are made by Azzuri who quite frankly are woeful. Thankfully Gweedore use O'Neills.

DonegalgetbacktoO'NeillsCSC

DD

Since Samaras blurted out his "Rangers aren't good enough" chat the media is all over it like a rash. Great psychological material for walter & sally. He really is a tumshy and should do his talking on the pitch !

Serious question.

Why is it he has called off? What is the reason he feels he cannot go ahead with this engagement?

St Anne's

You've outed me!

Maybe we should all put A.M.D.G on our posts to identify ourselves.

Celtic First - so I can rest easy about his sudden retirement from the sport. Which, unrelatedly, was just before his reconsideration of the red card his assistant advised him to display?

Oc Well then - whit are we all getting so vexed about?

McGrain in Spain, Kirk's latest injury is actually another serious cooking incident. He was making some boil in the bag rice and the instructions said, 'stand in boiling water for twenty minutes'

By the way Buster isn't one of us 'ings' he's an 'on'

DD,

Thats my point! Why is it not the real badge i.e. Green and White???

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

TraditionalistsRWe CSC

"Playing is the easiest part, the supporters have the hardest job."

"They go through all the emotions and will have been through the mill this week. They have the hardest job and there is absolutely no doubt about that."

"I am not someone who is sycophantic, someone who talks about the fans left, right and centre and kisses badges or kisses the scarf."

"What I will say is that in the four years I have been here, we couldn’t have asked for the fans to do any more."

"It would be wrong for me to ask for more, it would be like asking the players to do more than 100 per cent."

"Our fans are special fans and have given us incredible backing when we need it. I can’t sit here and ask for any more, because they have done more than enough."

"Just give us what you have been giving us, that’s what we need."

BELIEVE

Mort

Unbelievable from Samaras.

To paraphrase The Sun: Is CQN being run my a secret OA mafia?

To paraphrase The Sun: Is CQN being run by* a secret OA mafia?

I dont believe the players should be spouting in the media... If true of course...

Ipox has been very quiet....

Hail Hail
SPC

WhiteDogHunch....I am intrigued...cut about together as youngsters did we? If I tol you my initials were RA would that confirm your suspicions?

TTT

I agree it does look a bit odd but was the same with the black and gold strip I seem to remember, and at least that had a collar.

Lets hope its the champions away strip eh

DD

lubo1977;

whats the crack with the sun?

stopped buying the pish parers a long time ago, get my info on the net.

* papers

Timmy7 - What, on the one foot? Bit dangerous that.

Of course, Keaton.

On a serious point relating to Kano. Has anyone got a link to the newspiece broadcast yesterday yet? Here's a link to the TV station's website with a background piece on Martin. I've emailed the station for a link.

http://www.7perth.com.au/view/today-tonight-articles/locked-in/

Paul67

Wow, small world. I am intigued. Give me a hint?

Which part did you hear about? The frog? The pina coladas with tequila? The 2hrs at A&E? The turbo shandies for breakfast? Or surely not the Saturday afternoon on canal street?

It was a tough weekend.

BELIEVE.

why does Gordon Strachan let samaras near a reporter? He really does talk mince. Do your talking on the pitch Georgios - the gloating comes after.

maleys bhoy

Yes thought it was you.
I'm across from the tennis courts.

Samaras is an absolute idiot. We want them to be nervous before the big game on Sunday not motivated by moronic outbursts like this. Why not come out with something like "Rangers can only throw it away now." or "Remember Celtic's late slip at Fir Park in 2005. Anything can happen."

He is now going to be pinned up on the dressing room wall at Tannadice and provide an extra spur to the Rangers players. If they don't deserve to win the league why didn't you prove that last Sunday instead of blazing a free header over the bar from 6 yards?

Can we not find some PR course to send some of our players on.

Craiginho
Nevertemptfate CSC

Whitedoghunch....Penny has dropped.
Heard you got a new job. when do you start?

On Samaras - of course it will be down to our mistakes if they win it, but we are the ones who need them to drop points in order to win the league. It's always about mistakes the other team makes, otherwise we'd end the season level on points, goal difference and goals scored. And then whoever wins the play-off would only win because of the other team's mistakes. If nobody made a mistake then nobody would be able to score a goal. He should probably start thinking before he speaks, I recently did so and it's been working brilliantly.

St. Anne's, I’m bound by CQN confessional rules! If only you could remember who you were talking to about CQN!

DD,

Its just me mate. I think the real badge, the only badge should be used at all times on any Celtic strip.

In saying that I'm of the old school who thinks boots should still be black with white markings.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

AdidasCopaMundialandWorldCupAreBest CSC

The fu99ie dew

The sun ran an infamous headline a few years ago "is Britain being run by a secret gay mafia" alluding to rumours that a number of cabinet ministers were gay

Paul67

I talk to many people about CQN. In fact, I think I know exactly who it was. he wasn't with us. Lovely guy.

I bet he has no idea who he was talking to whilst watching the Aberdeen game.

The murky world of CQN, just as well I was saying nice things. I think.

SAW CSC.

Cadizzy 4.24

we were 8 clear after 2-2 draw Jan 3rd v DU. They had a game in hand, which they won the following day I think.

still standing

maleys bhoy

No new job
All is well

lubo1977;

gotcha, cheers.

thought the Sun was running with something to take the sting out the boogy red card fiasco.

Living the Dream,.... with my head held high!

Stuart Dougal.

There must be a judgement vacuum of some sort in his head these days. Why on earth would he believe it perfectly acceptable for an SPL referee to guest at a Masonic Lodge sportman's dinner in Larkhall in the last week of the SPL season following on from controversial games involving Celtic and Rangers in a neck and neck title race? Talk about the need to be impartial and be seen to be impartial?

To make matters worse, in his penultimate game of the season (invloving Celtic) he didn't see something a Celtic player apparently did that he later seen and decided he should have taken action at the time having seen it and has referred it to the review panel.

Then he sees something in the Rangers game (his final game) which didn't actually happen and acts upon what he didn't see by sending Mulgrew off for something he didn't actually do, disadvantaging Aberdeen for 73 minutes of a critical match. Having seen it again later he accepts that what he seen didn't actually happen at all and decides to refer it to the review panel.

Furthermore, he didn't see something else in the Rangers game but acts upon his linesman's advice who did see something and sends off Bougherra for a dangerous challenge. Having seen it again later (well, actually, for the first time as he didn't see it initially) he decides that what the linesman said he seen he believes he didn't actually see, despite the linesman confirming that he did see what he seen and still believes he seen what he seen, and decides to refer it to the review panel.

So, there you have it. If only he had referred his invite to the Masonic Lodge at Larkhall to the review panel he wouldn't be in the muddle he now finds himself in. He hasn't got much right these past couple of weeks.

Blaming everyone for everything except himself. Who missed two things that happened, seen one thing that didn't happen, disagreed with his linesman over something that did happen but he thinks didn't happen and reverses another decision he failed to judge correctly at the first time of asking?

Yip, Stuart, it's you. At some point somebody has to acknowledge errors of judgement and stop blaming others.

He was a decent ref (helmet on) but this last few days of his SPL career has been a bit of a fiasco.

I'm with you Token - although I did go a bit wild once with a pair of 'Franz Beckenbauer's' with yellow stripes.

+++++++++++++++STOP PRESS++++++++++++++++

I've just been informed by my man on the ground that our majority shareholder is in BB's !!!!!!!!

He's also informed me that he will ask any pertinent questions of him, so get them in :o)))

pablophanque

Ps, wonder if he's got a badge ?

U2_1888

Your post about Stuart Dougal reminds me about a bit of a film "Hear No Evil See No Evil" I seen years ago about a blind guy who saw a murder and a deaf guy who heard it and a crackin scene where the cop was losing the plot trying to get the pair of witnesses to tell him what happened

Always remember the line.......Fuzzy wuzzy was a woman?

Not sure why that suddeny popped into my head........

Whitedoghunch...think i got you confused with someone else...Are your initials BN? If so, great to hear from you. If you're not, then the plot thickens....

still standing

I didn't really think that counted since that was merely down to kick off times being a day apart. I look at it in terms of weekends. We went 7 ahead at Ibrox but by the end of the following weekend we were back down to 5 ahead.

Forty two years ago.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/may/21/lisbon-lions-celtic-internazionale

I believe

Paul67.
your optimism (and that of many on cqn) is laudable but misplaced.
football fans excel in blind faith but it is usually counter-productive.

The feeling of optimism when Billy signed Martin Hayes, Charlie Nich + john collins one summer the near hysteria after the joe miller treble busting cup final all lead to false dawns and misplaced faith in leaders who have already let us down.

WE HAVE ALREADY BLOWN IT!

Or more accurately our board has blown it, our chief executive has blown it, and our manager has blown it.

The financial lifeline this has thrown to the busted flush that is rangers fc makes me want to cry.

Our chief exec's astonishing misjudgement at the last transfer window and failure to secure a left back in the last 6 transfer windows coupled with his mismanagement of the Bobo debacle needs some serious answers.
The silence over the presidency of Gordon Smith has also been a failure of leadership.

I BELIEVE.............change is required!

McGrory-For-Arsenal - "The financial lifeline this has thrown to the busted flush that is rangers fc makes me want to cry". We haven't thrown them one yet.

PJ Dali,

50 secs in.

was fuzzy wuzzy a woman.

some sweary words , so dont click if your offended

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlt23LWM6jQ

Saint Stivs, not an OA.

Cadizzy

Agreed, technically it was 8 for all of a day. The source of the original comment was the media, but what do they know!!
Lazy journalism after all.

still standing

maleys bhoy

that is me indeed

Fourleafclover 13.00pm

Although Davie Moyes played for Celtic.He is a Rangers supporter from a Rangers supporting family.This is a fact.

I know his cousin.Who is a partner in a solicitors practice in Fife.

The cousin told me a couple of years ago that "David" won't leave Everton for either of the "Old Firm",unless his jaiket is on a shooglie nail.He said that Rangers would be his first choice,then Celtic.

Saying all that.

If he were to be open to coming, then i would have him in a New York minute.

The b2k family have 3 season books for 4 people. Thats usually fine because granddaughter b2k (10 months old)always needs looked after. We're wondering about trying to arrange a babysitter for this game and if we could getting a 4th ticket. By any chance does anyone have a ticket for a seasoned happy clapper who will cheer on the team to the end and clap them at the end for their efforts?

If you can help you can contact me on brendan2k@yahoo.com

Hail hail and here comes 4 in a row.

b2k whose nerves are jangling

mcgrory-for-arsenal

I do not disagree with a lot of what you say but I don't think it is indulging in blind faith to hope for us to win at home and for them to fail to win at Tannadice.

Everyone who is expressing a feeling that we might win this league is doing so with their eyes wide open. If we were 11 points behind with 4 games left, it would be blind faith to still expect to come out on top.

And,yes, we may have already blown it but that can be countered by Rangers doing the very same thing.

Moyes is thought of highly by Swalex

Moyes is an outside pony for ODE TWAFFODD

JOSE is their dream date

MON is in the running though is viewed as a LIVERPOOL man

Many think Swalex will manage 'til he drops

Notes from Mancunia...

Whitedoghunch....not surprised that someone of your intelect is a regular contributor to the site....hope you are well ...and you dad and sister too...

Are you up for a beer or a visit sometime soon..? I'm off work just now after an ankle operation so could pop down some time next week ...you can tell me the reason behind your CQN name

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The final 'push for the flag' come on the tic!

Iwo Jima memorial

mcgrory-for-arsenal

I believe ... this debate/inquest will rage long and hard after Sunday's denouement, no matter the outcome.

In the meantime optimism is a much more fruitful state of mind than dread.

still standing

alright bhoys

just back last night from a weeks holiday in Santa Ponsa

what have i missed?
apart from Dougal and the masons!

disgusted we hardly has any shots against hibs.
when will Gordon Strachan learn that we will not score if we do not shoot, especially after what happened at Ibrox

maleys bhoy

you obviously have not had time to peruse my contributions..

Yes and okay.

Token

Mail sent to you matey.

U

Samaras gives STV their only Celtic headline of the week

St. Anne's, that sounds like the man.

mcgrory-for-arsenal, “football fans excel in blind faith”, never underestimate football fans; I think CQN bears witness to quite the opposite.

StandingUpForFootballFansCSC

Lennondinho18

nothing much, we are all still fenian barstewards

allegedlyCSC

By pablophanque on May 21, 2009 5:37 PM
+++++++++++++++STOP PRESS++++++++++++++++

I've just been informed by my man on the ground that our majority shareholder is in BB's !!!!!!!!

Your man on the ground has admitted that he is not wearing his glasses though he did say if it wasn't DD then he must have a double...cue long running pub joke

Uly,

Thanks. Will reply soon.

Cheers

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

i love lubo.

with all due respect i too would believe if the lions were taking to the park. That is our heritage, but we have a manager who consistently fails to invoke the spirit of lisbon or indeed any sort of spirited response from the squad and this likely will cost us dear.

mcgrory-for-arsenal

at worst - your already prepared for the worst - albeit subconsciously - your mind working in secret softening the blow. The hurt they wish to inflict is deflected and the blow will be lessened. And yes, answers will still be sought.

at best - well, at best? - Badda Boom Badda Bing!!!!!

c'mon matey - travel hopefully.

anything can happen.

anything.

Are we Celtic?

Or are we Rangers?

U

weeminger @ 5:45

We have thrown them a financial lifeline. We don't know yet whether they will keep hold of it; and if they don't, whether we'll force it back on them. But the lifeline and the league and the CL money are currently in their hands, all thrown by us on Sunday.

Mason Dougal on dafty radio
to explain his descision

goatsRus

Quick question. For someone in Japan, what ways are there, other than Channel 67, to hear/watch the game on Sunday?

Cheers

Up-OverGoal - Send me your email and I will email you with what to do...

Paul Caddis to equalise in the 94th Minute for United and a 3-0 win for Celtic.

A scenario that would surely have every hun jumping oot there windy when we win.

Dougal is loving the attention, let him have his glory and switch off from him - He aint worth it....

Hail Hail
SPC

big feck gives huns backing for title on bbc reporting hunland.........
GIFRUY ya crawling big so and so.

I BELIEVE

For what its worth I still think the season ending is exciting.... I will be gutted like everyone if we dont win it but BUT IF we do then it will make it all the more sweeter.....

Hail Hail
SPC

Motivating to read Georgios' comments ahead of the weekend.

If you play for RFC.

Unbelievable.

Singapore Celt

Have emailed Paul. Is that how you do it? Hope so.

Thanks in advance.

up_over_goal

Why would you want an alternative to Ch67 for watching the gamein Japan? I'm not taking the moral high ground, I have watched games via a feed when I've no other way of accessing them, but doing so when abroad (and thus able to access Ch67) is the same as wearing a knock-off shirt. Worse in fact, because the % of income to the club from Ch67 is much higher than from the typical shirt sale.

93 mins gone:

Celtic 0-0 hearts
Dun u 0-1 rangers (boyd 1 pen)

Celtic and dun utd both get a corner, boruc and zaluska both come forward.

FT

Celtic 1-0 hearts (boruc 93)
Dun utd 1-1 (zaluska 93)

Carlsberg don't do Sundays....

Cubist Funk

How can anything said by Samaras, or anyone at Celtic for that matter, motivate Rangers on Sunday? Is it even conceivable that they are less than 100% motivated already?

I suppose there's always the mythical extra 10% that footballers talk about....

Samaras is totally correct.

Just didnt need to give them the story and you should only give out stories like that when you are on form.

Yes We Can.

Samaras was stupid saying what he did.....we're much better piling on the pressure by agreeing with Big Feck and by saying things
like 'rangers are now the favourites'.....'surely they won't throw it away now'.....'rangers need this title financially'...'we can only win our game and hope for the best'....'there might be a few twists and turns yet' and other phrases of that ilk.
I hope someone has a word with the players and gets them on message as Samaras comes across like Kevin Keegan at Newcastle.
Another thing big Sami has hardly managed to set the heather alight with his goals and performances....especially of late

talkingonthepitchCSC

Let the people sing on Sunday we the fans can make a difference and push the team forward. Never stop fighting 'till the fight is done!

Trick is, big sammi believes its our destiny to win the title and has said so many times in interviews throughout the season, if the rotten mob need such comments for backlash it just shows how afraid they are.

the diddy double would still be nice

hail hail

Celtic First agree mate passing time by oor very own Jinky was class ...should have been A side.....Celtic are here was brilliant inaw :¬)

EN

no problemo

vmhan

NeilR - we want RFC players to be reflecting on the task on Sunday, allowing a little fear of failure to creep in.

Georgios'comments just made it a little easier for them to focus on winning.

Bob Paisley used to use the expression 'bung 'em a bit of toffee' when he praised Liverpool's opponents ahead of big games.

Never give them anything to bite on.

Never played against someone - sure that you were trying your hardest and then something happens (an insulting comment, a foul not given) and you find a little extra edge?

Even the clauset huns in my work are letting there masks slip. The ones who support there local teams are now using phrases like we and us when talking about Rangers.

I hope we can snatch 4 in a row and ram the words of these huns without the bus fare right down there throats. Oh and if we do, they will be back to supporting there local teams next week. Suprise suprise.

Hello Bhoys, not left a comment for a while. My bet is on for the weekend: DUtd-Draw and Celtic double.

I BELIEVE

Why is it these games are ok to be played on a holiday weekend yet the old firm game was moved on police advice away from a holiday weekend?

Surely whatever happens on Sunday there will be the same trouble as an old firm game?

The real Bhear has got his words right IMO
http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1863_5340992,00.html

GrieveRdCSC,
its happening here in manchester too, guy's who said they were rugby men are now crawling out the woodwork, I've taken 4 bets this week, they're so confident I got 3/1 odds on all bets.

the diddy double would still be nice

hail hail

Mason Dougal says it wasnt him
it was the linesman who changed his mind after reviewing the incident
It wasnt the first tackle but the second 3 seconds later that was the reason for the red card but because of the angle of the tv cameras that nobody seen it
and that no decision has been made yet by the panel and that he will have no input on the outcome but expects booger to miss a game next season like loovens and McDonald

Our date with destiny draws ever closer.
Can't believe Dougal. He agrees to address an audience whose title, rightly or wrongly is almost a comic cliche for Rangers partisanship, and we get the blame for unreasonable suspicions!

Murdoch....,
the thick plottens :o)

the diddy double would still be nice

hail hail

Cubist Funk

I think these sort of arguments have a bit more force if you're directly up against the person/team in question. If anyone from Rangers even notices Samaras's comments, they are already failing to focus properly. Which would be great.

We'll never know if it makes any difference this time, I just don't think it's a big deal. Having said that, this week every little thing is going be pounced on, magnified, pored over, dissected, analysed, speculated about, argued over, debated, and rehashed until we've all worked ourselves into a righteous frenzy.

Roll on Sunday!

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Tried to Post a Interview With Sammi From a Greek Website but Seems The New Moderator Keeps Deleting It....

001It'sNoDonegalDannyIsItCSC

Are we there yet...Are we there yet...Are we there yet...Are we there yet....

Not long now Bhoys,

Patience...

Oh yes, and BELIEVE

I'm confident that on arriving at the ground on Sunday MORNING I'll be looking to buy my bhoy his 'Championeeees 4 in a row' flag BEFORE the game starts, cos after all...

"When you BELIEVE, there's no mountain you can't climb"

Gordon is The Man

hi ghuys

im a bit peeved at the moment,,,,by samaras,,,,shows no heart on the pitch,,,,but talks all tough in front of a microphone,,,,all talk no action,,,after that crap we witnessed last week you think they would have been told to get their heads down,and concentrate on the hearts game,,,,samaras,what a cowardly fool,,,

hail hail

Paul67 at 3.06

Great idea with the moderators. The site is still the best but some of the stuff being posted was starting to get out of hand.

I remember the days when you wanted to read the majority of posts but now 'scroll on by' has become the order of the day.

PS I'm part of the OA club as well. Left in '84.

Forget about this Giorgio Samaras quote the meedja are blowing out of proportion....

This doesn't give them any motivation whatsoever in comparison to the motivation they should already have to win the title for the first time in 4 years and to prevent horrendous consequences for their club and themselves as players.

If they are reliant on being motivated by a throw away line in a press conference from an opposition player then the title will be ours without a shadow of a doubt.

If I thought our players needed Boydichenko to say something to get us motivated I would them punted and the manager with them. That's his job to make sure the motivation and hunger is already there.

someone mentioned on Cqn in the last day or so about a double of Celtic to win the league & Dundee Utd Win or Draw paying 8/1....

Ive checked PP & Ladsomething another but cant seem to get the double....

I need to get the remainder of my MPs expenses spent before the claw-back comes in !!

FourInARowHereWeComeCSC

Another call for anyone who has managed to get a link to a video of Kano's piece on Western oz telly last night. Anyone?

ANd whilst I'm on just been listening to Celtic First's beloved RNE Spanish radio in the motor - RNE3, a good music station. Anyway this geezer's got a weird 70's glam rock/soul mix going down (I think that's how these muso chaps speak). I'm talking Isley Bros meet TRex here. Anyway more weirdly still, on comes erstwhile Pierrot, Leo Sayer with One Man Band, a no bad but ironically really rather orchestrated wee tune.

Well it got me thinking about Paul67 going on about absurd contributions and the cabal that seemed to be Leo Sayer, Thatcher, Nigel Mansell and the C3PO readalikey, can't remember his name, a droid from the future that were regulars last year.

What happened to them? They were absurd and irrelevant but real rather amusing.

NeilR - agree to disagree on the point in question.

Agree we'll never know.

How do you see Sunday playing out?

Kingoh -

Thanks for posting that as, unless I'd scrolled back through today's post, I'd have missed it.

Paul67 (or whoever is currently the Acting Paul67) - an absoultely tremendous decision that will no doubt be welcomed by the vast majority who visit this #1 site. But might be worth readvertising this move at various points over the next couple of days?

joewho'snoteatensincethismorningandisworriedhemightnotdosobeforeSunday

lubo1977 - Mr Latif's shop CSC.

Paul (or scoop would be more fitting)

Front page of the Sun and not a drink or drugs scandal in sight.

Well done on an excellent piece of jounalism.

Quite simple for me. This crap that gets mouthed off by some of our players is stupid. Don't know what it's trying to prove.

My message to George, if you are that fecking great, then why in gods name are you 2 points behind then?

This Celtic team is not a great as you may think. That's been the problem for years now. We have all knwon except the soundbites that come from Celtic Park.

Shut up and do your talking on the pitch.

What Sammi said

Like last year, they were seven points clear and we won the title and I said that we were the better team," he said.

"Now it's the opposite. But, if they are going to win it, I don't think they deserve it. I think we are better.

"If they are going to win it then fair play - but it's our mistakes (that let them) and I think we are a better team than Rangers."

Rangers surrendered a seven-point lead last season to allow their Old Firm rivals to come from behind to win their third consecutive title

I've noticed some reference in earlier posts to 'CQN Badges'. Are these available and if so how...

joewho'snowgoingforaruntokillmoretimebutwillbebacklater

Sofa CFC 001.

What's all this about Moderators,Are we not to be trusted now.when does this Censorship come into play.

RyanOD,

That was me who mentioned about that bet.

My bet was accepted by PP online when I placed it. Got odds of around 8/1. Later on in the day they pulled the bet. Other posters reckon they'll not pay out.

I'll not be too bothered either way as I'm sure I'll be on cloud 9 anyway :)

Someone from Ireland mentioned they were able to put the bet on later that day in a PP bookies via an unsuspecting member of staff.

BELIEVE

Strachanista

gallagher , Estadio Nacional

I don't care what Sammaras although I wish he wasn't such a jessie on the pitch.

HardasNails CSC

The above was Post 400!

Ye can keep yer podiums!

Post 400 is where its at!

L53

Lurgan53
Totally agree what's Greek for cojones :)

Paul67,

And the chances of getting Dougal to ref your charity five a sides are ? :)

gallagher

Bollicksopolous?

Ah well, If moderators are going to clamp down on abusive posts, I'll try to be the first one banned:-

"Oh, The rangers are the Islamic sect that is not Sunni"

Not bad enough, let's try

"Dick Byrne disnae buy a round"

Fair comment, you say. OK, I'll go for broke.

"The poster Peter Grant IS a racist hun" (N.B. absence of smileys)

because he is

Thanks Strachanista,

Im sure they will have to honour the bet....

RyanOD

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OldTim67....

See Paul67 @ 3:06pm....Re; Moderators....

It was Defiantly Paul67 as I Have Gave The Impressionist Circuit Up....While @ Home....

Howevvvvvaa....

If That is a Double Bluff from You that Your Not a Moderator....It's a Good One....:O))))

001

WGS, today I put on my common house-fly suit and flew all the way to Lennoxtown for the presser...I had to content myself with a place on the wall as there were no sandwiches on the table...and so, in came wee Gordon but he said nothing controversial...he knows what they are after and the journos were not happy...then in came big Sammi...at first he wouldn't take the journos' bait, he wanted to talk only of Celtic... until Ronnie Esplin asked him, if rangers won it would he concede the huns were the better team and deserved it...the rest you know but the lazy js were almost giving high fives when Sammi left the room. Here's hoping!

If you like to have a bet I think the two title deciding games are the choice,Both games will be tight affairs, each team affraid to let in a goal,so I would suggest Draws at half/time and the team of your choice to win at full-time,it will show a fair profit if it comes up.I calculated Celtic & Dundee united as the winning bets,and for a fiver stake the returns come to £325,I never calculated the other two as no-one would be interested?.

Mcgraininspain,

as you may know, I am now living in the land down under and am a naturalised Aussie. I haven't been able to post for a while since I've been touring for months. A really embarrassing thing happened a few months back when I left my 'puter on and one of my roadies posted as me in real Aussie vernacular some of which proved to be quite offensive to some! As if I could have learned all of those expressions in such a short space of time. Anyone who knows me knows I couldn't even begin to act in such a confident, manly way around the ladies. Mum says it's because I am such a gentle, sensitive soul.(she wasn't too pleased to see what that roadie posted and she gave him a real talking to)

Anyway,it was my birthday yesterday (61...gosh!)and I would love to have a belated birthday present on Saturday when the Celtics line up against the "Jam Sandwiches" as is their nicknames (or jam pieces as you might say).

I am fully confident that the Celtics will secure all 4 points and Dundee City will do what they need to do to secure their place in the Eurovision Cup.

Hail, hail, hail

PS glad you got the Pierrot reference. We thought at the time we had gone too subtle.

Whether it would make any difference... but the club could do with employing a PR person to brief the foreign players in particular before these press conferences. They have to understand that any such noises are going to be blasted from a loudhailer with maximum negative spin employed by the Laptop Loyal.

Mind you if he'd said 'it's a tough ask' or something like that no doubt the cry would be 'sammy doesn't rate celtic's chances'

Ratbag was spouting about how TFOD were going to win the league in the Retard PM (free edition) yesterday. Why is this not seen as disgraceful boasting? I'm a sucker rhetorical questions.

lubo77 your carlsberg scenario would have me 6 feet under. Minds is:

Celtic 5 Hearts 0
Dundee Utd 5 Rearrangers 0

Paul67

3 days, 3 articles on masons, referees and conspiracies.
This feels to me like a less well balanced and objective perspective on all things Celtic and scottish football that is the norm for CQN.
Maybe its an attempt to drum up a bit of siege mentality for the battle ahead ?

In my opinion, nothing other than footballing mismanagement and poor player performances have influenced our season.

This Sunday is no different, if we lose the league (and that is what it is, it is certainly not Rangers winning it) then it is nothing to do with masons, referees or the SPL.

The problem is poor footballing management. This still applies if we win.

Rant over, bring it on for Sunday and mon the hoops !!!

saint stivs fp @5.45pm

Cheers for posting that clip......superb!

Apologies if this has been posted before...
From 7Perth TV Channel website..
Locked In

Reporter: Andrea Burns

Up until 5 months ago, Martin Kane was a fit healthy man then overnight his world changed. Martin woke in the early hours feeling strange. In the time it took his wife Carolyn to call an ambulance, Martin had lost feeling in his legs and then he couldn't move at all. He was trapped. Locked in.

Director of the Spinal Unit at Perth's Royal Perth Hospital, John Ker says Martin's condition is called Devic's syndrome. A rare incurable form of Multiple Sclerosis.

Unable to speak, Martin can only mouth words. He uses a computer to help spell out his words. It's slow and frustrating, but it's a start. Martin needs round the clock help, but even the medical staff agree that he doesn't need to be in hospital.

The manager of Martin's beloved Celtic football club Gordon Strachan was just one of the people across the world who've heard Martin's story and if good wishes could make the difference, Martin would be walking through his front door tonight, but wishes aren't enough. This proud family needs financial help.

The home Martin spent years renovating for cosmetic reasons, now needs practical changes to facilitate a wheelchair. Friends, family, even kind strangers have already helped make some changes to facilitate Martin coming home such as a path to get him in the front door. Carolyn wants her husband home with their kids. It's not the future they'd planned but she's determined they'll be together.

"We can still have a fulfilling life. Martin might be able to study, he might be able to return to work, there might be advances in technology where he can actually speak again, move again, who knows? I just keep hopeful for anything" says his loving wife Carolyn.

If you would like to help Martin and his family, please email the team here at Today Tonight your name and contact number and we'll pass it onto the family. tt@7perth.com.au

From The Racing and Football Outlook, tipster paper in the shops on a Tuesday.

'Dundee United v Rangers

After Kyle Laugherty faked a headbut to get Charlie Mulgrew a red card last week, many neutrals will hope that Majid Bougherra will not get his red card recinded for this game and that United do a job on the leaders.
Make that another job as Craig Leven' men have regularly risen to the occasion in this fixture and he has demanded a reaction after Saturdays sluggish performance

Yada yada yada

Bet a draw and also 1-1'

Celtic v Hearts

Their speil is not worth the bother.

Caldwell to score first 33/1 Coral.

I believe!

just in from a busy day, haven't started on this article yet but i have just read a post from kitalba saying that Martin got home...

it can happen...most important thing is that Kano can and will get home...(1 day at a time)

Keep the faith...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/may/21/seven-deadly-sins-socrates-brazil

Henriks
I think Paul67 and the blog are trying to ease the tension we are feeling or trying to give Dan Brown some material for his new book Huns & Demons ;))

up_over_goal - You got mail with the details...

Hail Hail
SPC

jobo baldie

CQN Badges

And the address is CQNBadge@gmail.com

pablophanque

Ps, someone mentioned jannies earlier on which reminded me of dannythejanny. One of many who no longer grace this dear-green-place :(

Anyone any idea what boozers near the park will be open on Sunday ? Little deckchairs and I will be hunting for spare tickets but if we don't get any spares we want somewhere we can at least watch the game

420 posts

does noone work in this country ;p)

Sofa CSC 001.

You can rest assured that I'm not a moderator,I think Paul would know I wouldn't have accepted it.

EN

Sporting Life's Betting Zone has their good value bet as Dundee United Draw.

FIAR

Ulster-Celt

Ulster-Celt

Papers that are worth reading.

I will not even put a penny near the Dundee United game, its too important for me to jinx it, same with 'Celtic to win the league' bets.

EN

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BlantyreTim....

Remember it's Homecoming Year so There is Loads of Tourists Clogging the Roads & Airways....

OldTim67....Re; You Being a Moderator....

In a Sybil from Fawlty Towers Voice....To Basil...."Ooh l Know....Ooh l Know....Ooooh l Know Basil"

001

Cheat FC Dive 1 with commentary

Cheat FC Dive 1 Scott Booth finds it amusing not scandalous for some reason other than he's a biased lapdog as the extremists would have you believe obviously

Cheat FC Dive 2 with commentary

Cheat FC Dive 3

Check out Martin O'Neill's comments and then which part the BBC Loyal Lapdogs chose to highlight in the wee maroon box

Kingoh, I hear you. Not sure if employing Masonic Moderators was wise, though.

Mcgraininspain, J Titor did not post last year, he posted from years in the future.

Jobo Baldie, good idea.

Notthebus, didn’t see the Sun, did know that! Thanks; the CQN community hit the target with that one.

WGS :-)

henriks tongue, your arithmetic is off.

just catching up on the posts...

i am the drinken moderator, thankfully i am not the spelling one...;o)

moderatorsrusmodmancsc

BT

Paul67 on May 21, 2009 3:06 PM
Paul, good idea. Healthy discussion / opinions / criticism always welcome but never to a level that anyone should feel offended.

Roll on Sunday !

Blantyretim,

Does that mean I can sign of as follows:-

Hail Hail
SPCwhois
goingforaheineken
in2hrs?

oldtim

you are a moderate man in my eyes.

Check out Martin O'Neill's comments and then which part the BBC Loyal Lapdogs chose to highlight in the wee maroon box

singapoer..sp

sing waht you want...

I am not without hope but I fear it is the puffed up artificial kind.

I knew coming onto the Blog at this point in the week there would be lashings of opTIMisim, shouts of "BELIEVE" and lots of question marks about THEIR bottle & record at Tannadice.

All well and good and indeed I was encouraged until I put myself in the position of a DU supporter - how would I regard our record in must win games?

"Couldn't win the L Cup last term to a R~~~~~~$ team marginally worse than this term.
Couldn't push ourselves over the line for one of our own (Eddie Thompson RIP).
This season although clearly the third best side in the division, the closer we got to actually finishing third the weaker our form.
Now we need a point to secure Europe - I can hear the glass begining to crack.

In this regard the Celtic club are everything we're not. Sorry Celts would love to help but I know us better than you!"

I SO WANT TO BELIEVE.

Blantyretim,

I am with you on that one.... :)

Hail Hail
SPCwhothinks
BlantyrTimis
adrunklikehimself

Paul 67;

Are we any nearer to the day when we will pursue commercial activities entirely on our own and rid ourselves of the hated old firm tag?

Joint enterprises with these bigots only serves to give us a share of their bigoted bile while they share in our worlwide appeal.
Only one winner there then!

I pray for the day we go our own way.

Cubist Funk

I expect us to win on Sunday, though with this team the odds against creating early and then keeping a two goal lead are low, so it's likely to be a nervy day.

Tannadice: if Dundee Utd had nothing to play for beyond pride I'd expect Rangers to edge it. For as long as they need something from the game, I make them favourites to get it. Here's hoping Aberdeen get their noses in front early in their game; we and Ragners won't be the only ones with trannies to our ears.

Never knew about this !!!???

From Celticminded

I wanted them to go down even before I saw this !!!

pablophanque

A MAY MIRACLE

The setting was a summers night on the twenty first of May
With Celtic & Rangers locked in fight to see who had the day
And the say was the biggest yet perhaps between the two
No Hollywood could have cast the set, for this was uniquely new

The Premier League was the prize, no paltry shield or cup
The winter's chaos to League ties had held this game up
So nature played a great role in the way the set was made
For without the effect of the North Pole, the game would have been played

Yes, the team that won this game would win the league as well
They would gain all the acclaim their support would blithely tell
I said the team that won the game though that is not quite true
'Cause if the Celts won, the League was theirs, but Rangers won it if they drew

So Celts started behind that day and things soon looked very black
For although they had most of the play, Rangers scored in one attack
With over an hour to play, one down, a draw no use
The League looked lost, and at half-time, we heard all the old abuse

Hopes had turned to deepest doubt, though the team never gave up
We'd still a chance in a cup tie, but this was for no cup
Each attempt the Celtic made, a bar or post would foil
And just on the hour, after a raid, they lost wee Johnny Doyle

He had looked the man most likely, he'd near things once or twice
But his temper passed his effort, ordering off was the price
As he made his way to the tunnel, we wondered if and how and when?
If eleven couldn't do it in an hour, in half an hour how could ten?

The Gers felt certain, naw, absolutely sure, the game was as good as theirs
The Celts support was very sick, now they'd only prayers
But then their prayers were answered, as they pressed goal-makin
And beyond belief, within a while, they scored through big Roy Aitken

Then amidst the most dramatic scenes that I have ever seen
McCluskey put them one in front, the ten men in the green
We really couldn't believe it, oh! how we would preach
But all all within a minutes space, Rangers made it two each

By this time we knew we'd watched the best game of the season
And to expect more goals or thrills we really had no reason
The ten had fought a great, great fight, plain for all to see
So words could not express delight when the ten men made it three

It was now three two with minutes left, the game was still a bristle
And without a qualm of conscience we prayed for the final whistle
But before it came with its welcome piercing the May night cloud
The score was four for the ten through wee Murdo MacLeod

Then there were scenes to remember which keep come smiling through
For the ten men had done it,actually won it, and the scoreline was 4-2
There was such an awful clamour, such excitement such din and such noise
That myself and the people with me for four days lost our voice

Everything in reflection is pleasing even the trainer waving referee
To the half-time worry and doubting and the game blacked by TV
The mind flies back for a marker, to Lisbon and the 7-1 game
But none of them compares in any way quite the same

The Lisbon Lions had quality, just recall the jinkin' Merlin
The 7-1 team had Charlie T and Billy McPhail, a darlin'
But this team they were hardly known, some barely a season there
The month before Rangers opened the score and beat them fair and square

And some that saw will wonder, will always recall this great game
Knowing full well its unlikely we'll ever see the same
The recent internationals were one great yawn and bore
Even the game in Norway where Scotland won by four

The future games will matter, they'll be played as keenly as ever
But after that memorable night, they'll hardly make us quiver
And when football people gather for all to have their say
I'll be happy to bore them again and again of that summer night in May

Sometimes, when I think back, questions rise if and how and when?
If eleven couldn't do it in one hour, in half an hour how could ten?
Ther is no answer, theres seems no way, not even now today
But it happened and I saw it on that summer's night in May.

Paul

It really was banner headlines, when I saw it in the shop with Dougal's picture, I actually thought someone had attacked him or worse.

anyway heres the link to the story if you or anyone else are interested.

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/article2440691.ece

Kirk Broadfoot's foot injury happened in his kitchen. He was following the intructions on a packet of rice. Everything was going well until he got to the bit that said 'stand in boling water for 10 minutes'

notthebus

Is the day trip to Millport still on?

I’ve been thinking a bit recently about the whole subject of refereeing bias, actual or perceived. The Dougal episode has certainly brought it to the fore with Celtic fans. Interestingly, on my occasional forays into the clammy depths of FF, the conviction of bias against their club seems to be almost as deep-rooted as it is on the Celtic side.

If refereeing decisions are not impartial, that should be clear enough in a world where everything is on YouTube. It isn't, though, and I think the reason for this is that we all participate in an briefly satisfying but ultimately futile blame game, based on anecdotal evidence.

For as long as that’s where it stops, NOTHING will ever happen. The proliferation of controversial moments in football mean that there will always be lots of ammunition for someone alleging bias in any direction. Only a dispassionate analysis of facts will ever demonstrate whether there's really a case to be answered.

If people are really interested in finding out whether bias is present in the system, I think it should be relatively easy to create a database of relevant and objective data about refereeing performance.

People have occasionally done some interesting work in this area before now; there was a thread on CQN some months ago (maybe more) based on some very compelling research about penalties awarded in seasons past.

Historical work can certainly be useful, but the necessary use of partial data makes it difficult to build a compelling case.

I therefore think one of the best things that could be done to promote the transparency and objectivity we all profess to want would be to start building a database based on contemporary information. I propose to start such a database, available for public scrutiny, from the start of next season, using sources such as the live statistics for each SPL match on Sporting Life, which give a great deal of relevant information in a convenient, easy-to-extract format. Historical information could perhaps be added in due course.

Here is a list of relationships that could potentially indicate whether teams are being treated equally – or not.

* Number of penalties awarded compared to number of goals scored.
* Number of penalties conceded compared to number of goals conceded.
* Number of offsides given compared to goals scored.
* Number of offsides given against opponents compared to goals conceded.
* Minutes of 2nd half added time in each match and the result at 90 minutes.
* Number of yellow/red cards compared to number of fouls conceded.
* Number of yellow/red cards against opponents compared to fouls committed.
* Results for a club when a given referee is officiating, compared to the average.

There are obvious pitfalls in doing this, at least in the short term. While some of these relationships are fairly simple to interpret, others (e.g. the last one) are much less so. There would be a lot of 'noise' in the results, and no doubt people would extrapolate the results beyond their statistical significance to begin with.

On the other hand, the facts would be there for analysis, it would only take a couple of seasons for most of the results to acquire a reasonable degree of statistical significance.

This should be welcomed by the authorities (though it won’t). If, as we should at least be willing to admit as a hypothesis, the refereeing fraternity really is largely free from bias, the statistics will show that more clearly than any number of official statements.

We're not talking about a huge amount of info to be collated; for each match the following is all that would be needed to work out all the relationships mentioned above:

Teams
Score at 90 mins
Result
2nd half added time
Offsides
No of yellow cards
No of red cards
No of free kicks
No of penalties
Referee

30 mins a week inputting SPL data from Sporting Life onto a Google Docs spreadsheet would do it. I’m quite happy to set it up, but I know for a fact I’m too lazy to see it through on my own! Is anyone else interested in helping out with a bit of data entry?

Any suggestions on other (readily gathered and objectively verifiable) data that could help throw further light on this subject are also welcome.

Anyone interested can shout out on CQN or e-mail me via my user name at neilrobertson dot com. I’ll be going out for a few hours so won’t be replying immediately to any feedback or comments on here.

pablophanque

Well the "free shot" for every Rangers goal was a safe bet.Come to think of it, a free shot for every rangers shot was still a safe bet

pablophanque on May 21, 2009 8:51 PM
I was surprised about this too. I thought they left all that behind. In my younger days the 'blue nose brigade' (all things associated with that label back then) were ..

Rangers (sons of)
Hearts (cousins of)
Falkirk (wannabe's)
Kilmarnock (discards of)

notthebus 8:54 PM from the story in the Scum as the screenshot they have used demonstrates - there was no indication that this was a charity event. Another piece of anti-Celtic Laptop loyal spin.

Shoogle says "It's 2009 I thought we'd moved on from that type of thing" Yes Shoogle so did we. So did we.

NeilR
I've thought along those lines about collecting stats. Fouls awarded would be another one.
I always feel we get penalties when we don't really need them like in a 5-0 win. They get them when they are really under pressure. This wouldn't register on your system.
As you say it would be a fair bit of work but a good idea.

NeilR - as you are no doubt aware there are a myriad of complexities other than simple statistics, although the bare statistics may present enough of a picture. Context is important also.

i.e. Rearrangers get a Davis-esque penalty against the Diet Huns which hands them a 2-1 win and 2 points whilst Celtic get a penalty whilst 3-0 up to St.Mirren. There is a big difference between the two however the stats would read penalties tally = Rearrangers 1 Celtic 1 = no bias at play.

TheBhoyWithTheWaferThinEyes

Sadly the independent commercial evaluation of the 2 clubs is likely to suggest that for the most recent period (usually last 3 years) Rangers value returned to sponsor would be greater than Celtic's.

This is mainly due to their 2 successful UEFA seasons vs Celtic having CL success in 2 years which is offset by the CL offering no significant branding opportunities for localised activity due to TEAM (UEFA marketing folk) activation of CL sponsor deals.

serious question

Does anyone really think our current situation is due to hun offical bias?

Or is this just a way of venting of steam.

Just interested

My view is that it makes a nice excuse if things don't go our way sunday.

NeilR, great idea. Might you be able to work out the stats for bookings per club for players running off the pitch to celebrate - that's one that really rankles. That would involve watching them on a regular basis, right enough, so probably a no-go.

Been off the site for a week as domestic duties have somewhat overtaken me (whoever said "as slow as a week in Inverness" must have had some idea of the week I've just had in said city which felt like a month). Glad to see the optimism shining through. The hand's still clinging onto the towel for dear life here :-)

NeilR

as a major promulgator of conspiracy and bias ...i will help

NeilR

PFAYR here

Junior`s been on

that`s why moniker is wrong

BT - I've barely had a chance to read the blog lately, never mind post. Thanks to your post I checked back and found Kit's from this morning about Kano getting home.
Absolutely made up for the family. It's great news and a major step forward in the battle to get Martin home.

That's made my night - I'm away for a wee libation!

TTTT

Pablophanque @ 8.51 -

Doesn't change who I'll be supporting on cup final day though!

Re your earlier reply about the CQN badges -
1. What's the significance of the 5p
2. When I contact the e-mail address you gave how do I go about ordering / paying.

joewhosknackeredafterrunningtoofartonight

Gentlemen, I am off on holiday shortly and will be away for both the Champions League and the, whits it called ? Cup final. So basically I need to find a Falkirk minded pub on the costa del sol for the 30th May, any suggestions ?

My very good friends, I will be away for the next six days, so I would like to wish you all a Champion weekend, I will of course listen into the results on Sunday,somehow.
My very best wishes go with you all.

Go on you Celts.

Eustace

i cn recollect a number of very important decisions that nhave gone the huns way at important times in games

they consistently get pens that no other team would be awarded
also it is not only pro-hun decisions it is the anti-Celtic ones

all the snyde free kicks given against us ..denied free kicks and pens ...in our last 2 away games we have had shout for pens that imo the huns would have got ..of course we didn`t

overall they have a bearing on the season

however this year the MIB meddling should not have matter as we should have been to far ahead for them to have had an influence

TTTT

I was made up when I read it, sent an email to Ramie, come to think of it, didn't send one to Kano. about to do it now...

I am now off work until Tuesday so I may have a small whisky myself

BT

Chaplin, where on the Costa del Sol are you going?

Bobby, I worked beside many of their fine "citizens" for years being told that they weren't interested in fooball until the beast came and low-and-behold, wadaya know..............."Av awwis supported the bears me ". Went to college there for a year and stayed there for a year and I know for a fact, that they're all huns :o)))

pablophanque

Just caught the end of the reserve game on Celtic TV. Was that a lady ref or a guy with a pony tail?

I just dont think "who's the order of the eastern star in the black" scans quite as well as the male equivalent.

I wonder if she is speaking at an OES dinner (sorry, charity fund raising event) on Friday.

ggh

Re. NeilR's statto plan - free kicks, there is also the issue of WHERE the free kicks are awarded. We get loads in our own half, but decidedly fewer in what still gets termed "Naka territory".

mcgraininspain - Having already donated to your sponsored slim-a-thon in good faith I was deeply concerned to read your earlier posts about pieces n jam, pieces n butter, cheese pieces, ham pieces & egg pieces.

Do we have any evidence at all that this so called "slim-a-thon" has actually taken place? I'm starting to get the impression that you're sitting there stuffing yourself like BFDJ on a night out with WDH.

Jobo Baldie - Is Jobo a clue to your real name? If so, I might be able to pass on a badge next time I see you (he said mysteriously)

By Chaplin on May 21, 2009 9:32 PM

Its not a Falkirk pub but Robert will have the game on at The Cunard Bar see link info and diections directions. Its not aCeltic pub per se but chances are there will be more Falkirk supporters in as the Celtic logo can put some folk off.

http://cunardbar.moonfruit.com/

PS if we win the SPL on Sunday and so qualify for the pre season Malaga tournament this is the place to go and stay.

Just so annoyed that we are not out of sight.

I believe P. Lawell has got extremely complacent and started to believe his own hype. (All that tosh about the Arsenal post)
Im in business myself and one thing above all else that has allowed me to stay reasonably succesful is to stay hungry.

If you let every one else underestimate you and never get complacent you'll do allright. What i've seen with the Tic's ceo is the opposite. And dont think they dont puff themselves up when smart web bloggers like paul67 sing their praises often (and blindly).

By waiting to the end of season to criticise we are in a ''bolting the stable door'' position. Sycophancy does not help the cause.

Im a bit of a malcontent on here for moaning that we underestimate der hun too much and praise our ceo & manager too much. But a bit more of that attitude from on high might've stopped us getting in this outrageous position..............

THAT BEING SAID IVE GOT £100 ON UNITED @ 5/1
(and if Zanten scores 1st.... I'll be the one buying the champers at Mr.Chalmers evening ;-))

Dick Byrne -

been wondering for a while know whether I know you. Is it just Rangers games I tend to see you...?

NeilR - another problem is quantifying 'negative' statistics i.e. when Celtic or the Huns' latest opponents are denied stonewall penalties or McCurry fails to send off Cousin for a blatant head butt. These are subjective judgements although some are of the blatant variety.

e.g. our "escape" when a penalty wasn't give against Dundee Utd early in the season was held up as proof that all these things even out, at least as far as Us and Them are concerned

i.e. FOUR NONSENSE FARCE decisions = ONE DEBATABLE decision - according to the Lapdog Loyal.

Another example was the fury and media scutiny around Zander Diamond's "disallowed" goal against us last season. The Monday after this I was on the end of some rant from an Aberdeen fan who hadn't seen the game to the effect of "don't hit me with yer paranoia rubbish ever again that just proved you lot get everything going from refs". When I politely pointed out that George had a goal disallowed with no explanation and no media scrutiny, the response was a matter of fact "well there must've been absolutely nothing controversial about it then".

The bottom line is people will not believe what they don't want to believe no matter how much evidence you produce. I think this is a very worthwhile idea actually, but the beauty of the Hun propaganda machine in this country is, that the very fact that someone would take the trouble to collate and present data of this type is in itslelf enough to brand you paranoid!

"What?? You went away and recorded things on a spreadsheet. You are totally PARANOID!"

time after time the absence of media scrutiny as far as decisions in favour of the huns allows a mythology to develop such as the laughable notion that the Huns were hard-done by last season in relation to fixture scheduling. In fact references to last season in the Scottish media repeatedly say that Rangers were not granted an extension to the season.

Truly Orwell's vision of a compliant media re-writing history has come to pass.

This really came to the fore with Kenny Misser's "stop maoning Celtic we got nothing last year rant" immediately followed by Nosurname's outburst about the Irishey sounding official. No accusations of being an "extremist" or "parnoid" were levelled at Nosurname, or even any "for gods sake its 2009" type statements in the media. The obvious contradiction that Nosurname's naked attempts to intimidate the match official immediately followed one of his own players telling Celtic to shut up and not be so paranoid, is simply ignored by Murray's poodles. There simply is no contradiction, manipulation or Rearrangers paranoia as far as they are concerned.

The best you will do with a Motherwell/St Mirren/Dundee Utd etc fan when presenting this evidence or argument is a grudging "they're just incompetent not biased".

And no doubt you will be paranoid for going to the trouble of remembering all this and there will be screeds of examples of this kind of favouritism to Celtic that you have simply glossed over yourself.

"Celtic are never out the papers" they will say.

Yeah, tell us about it!

I find it (very) slightly amusing that all the gamblers on CQN are having the craic over the way to get the best odds oot o the fitba at the weekend, as the high heed yin moderator would say hmmmmmm!

The biggest gamble of all was spend or not to spend....upward spiral or......hope, prayers and belief on the LAST game of the season....now thats a gamble....grrrrrrrrr.

ps this moderating schizen is getting me doon.....I resign!

As we move forward into the weekend (starts ra morra) I would like to wish all my fellow moderators......aw the best fur the weekend and be fair to all......and a GIRUY to all huns.

Ed yir naw a hun, yir an ok bloke.

vmhan
Hail Hail

lo siento
I love this one

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gonzo67/2235291196/

jb, the 5p is to give a sense of perspective :o)))

I'll deal with your request as soon as mate.

pablophanque

Jobo - Yes the very chap.

I was going to suggest that you could silence all these vicious lies about me not buying a round but come to think of it I don't think I've ever bought you a drink either...

Chaplin, further to auldheid's post, can also vouch for Bailey's Bar in Calle San Miguel, Torremolinos, Inchy's Bar in Benalmadena (not a Celtic pub, but very Celtic-friendly, and worth a visit for a nose around the memorabilia on the wall), and would suggest avoiding The Point, Bar None and The Tartan Arms in Benalmadena like the plague :-)

Here is why I am confident of 4-in-a-row on Sunday.

If Rangers only needed a draw at Tannadice, I think they are one team who could easily achieve that. They are suited to defending a position and United might have found it hard to break them down if they had 10 men behind the ball. It was brutal to watch in the UEFA Cup, but it was effective nonetheless.

However, Ranger know that a draw will not be enough. They must find a win. I can't see them doing that, especially against such a well-organised team like Dundee United; more especially against a Dundee United side who themselves need to avoid defeat to win a Euro spot.

If United get the first goal, Rangers will implode. As long as it is 0-0, the Gers know one goal will do it, but at 0-1, they will need 2.

Paradise would be Celtic ahead 2-0 at half-time while Rangers are trailing 0-1.

Would they be able to handle such a high pressure second half? I'm not sure they could.

Like I say, if they were 3 points ahead and needing a draw, I would be very pessimistic. They need to win.

Hail Hail

Dick Byrne / Pablophanque -

Don't worry Dick, most of your secrets are safe with me. And don't you dare suggest organising next seasons CQN predictions competition!!!!

If we expect to cross paths over the next couple of weeks then I needn't bother pablophanque anymore

Dick Byrne

nearly swallowed the olive in my martini
away you silly boudin noir

RRC:

I’m glad you copied and pasted that. To me the most encouraging and most concerning sentence is
“Martin needs round the clock help, but even the medical staff agree that he doesn't need to be in hospital.”

Martin must go home. The hospital have had the pleasure of his company for far to long and that clock has ticked its bain beyond even Martin’s endurance; but for him to get home and stay home, a lot of things have to be done and all long term necessary support in place. That long term necessary support is what I would envision us being able to provide towards.

Like many people I took the time to e-mail the tele-jounalist, Andrea Burns, at tt@7perth.com.au a congratulatory note.

I was rather surprised when not five minutes later an e-mail arrived at my works address with here direct number and asking that I contact her. She was very polite and seemed personally committed to helping Martin home. She asked my opinion of how much it would take to see Martin’s ambition of being back with his family realized. I replied Aud. $50,000 and we are well on our way to that figure. She seemed to think that I had underestimated. She must have sensed my despondency because she quickly added that the response to the TV segment had been phenomenal and that all sorts of people had been in touch and were offering to assist in various way. The help that those people will bring to Martin is at the moment unquantifiable, the help that we can bring to Martin is quantifiable. We should commit to that Aus$50,000, achieve it, get Martin home, and then enjoy the fact that we truly do belong to the greatest sporting social family the world has ever known. And we do.

It was at the perseverance and imitative of Martin’s niece (if I remember correctly) that the Today Tonight show carried Martin’s story. Her commitment is typical of Martin's family and friends but her imitative has no copyright. They, by all accounts, showed Martin and his love for his family and his club in a tremendous light. They would likely do a follow up if we can get Martin home. Let’s just do it. Let’s just get him home; home before Christmas too.

Anybody got an e-mail for the commercial or marketing manager of Nike?

On another issue altogether, all week I have seen people do the maths and inflate doom if Rangers actually win the league. 15M pounds and what they could do with it. I just wondered the converse, what if Celtic win the league and they get the 15M and they add the unspent money that was promised to Gordon Strachan and take a wee punt of 5M, I would optimistically, without fear of attracting too much debt beyond our ability to comfortably service the debt,, estimate that wee Gordon could might easily have a war-chest of between twenty to thirty million. Wouldn’t that be nice? Well I thought it was worth a thought anyway.

Dick, your pockets are as full as your heart and all this "he never buys a drink" crap is just that mate, crap. As well you and all the rest know ! So GIRFUYA :o)))

pablophanque

standingupfordickCSC

Jobo - I'll try to remember to pick up a badge for you from pablo or DBBIA on Sunday. I'm bound to be down your way sometime over the next few weeks & so we can sort things out then.

WDH - Apologies - hope your canapes didn't go down the wrong way.

Gordon on May 21, 2009 8:51 PM

Thanks a lot for that my friend, please can you tell me who the author was and where did it come from (source)......it's a cracker and I remember the day so well.

vmhan
Hail hail

Hi. I have a ticket going spare for Sunday's game. Its for area 445 (ticket says restricted view no discount - i've never sat there so I don't know how rubbish this makes the view). The problem is I'm based in Edinburgh. If anyone would like the ticket and could pick it up in Edinburgh city centre sometime tomorrow they'd be welcome to it for a donation to Kano's fund.

Email me at lynnsgreensocks@googlemail.com if you're interested.

Frever