Who next?

Jose Mourinho and Marc Janko as the first two signings please.

vmhan on May 26, 2009 12:08 PM
Thanks to Gordon Strachan for the 3iar, thanks also for walking ,it's a pity it wasn't at the end of last season, walking away as a a champion would have been so much better.

David Moyes will do, go get him Celtic......

vmhan
Hail Hail

2nd?

from previous thread...

While he may be out of our price range realistically.
I think Rijkaard, may be worth pushing the boat our for.

He would get the best out of aiden and maloney, even samaras with his attacking football.

Also, He would have influence in Spain with regards to loan/signings similar to that of Crosas. Wee Bojan is being touted to clubs on loan. He would phenomenal (possibly fizzy, definitely not ginger) in the SPL.

also, I reckon Henke will have told him all about us :-)

mibbes even bring Henke in as a player/coach.

well. Might be a bit unrealistic. But I would love to see it

Arrgh!

Paul67,

You misedd out Hitszfeld and Jol.

An interesting name indeed.

Paul67,

Ståle Solbakken, been in charge of Copenhagen for four years and won three leagues. He bombed in 2008, finishing third behind Aalborg and losing at Pittodrie, but got back on track this year.

Is that not Gordon Strachan you're talking about..i think you've got your 2008s and 2009s mixed up though.

Would still like Martin Jol, but Solbakken...a name out of left field might be no bad thing.

Solbaaken thaat is. Did someone tip you off Paul or is that just a manager you have been keeping an eye on. Anyone else talking about him?

Stale Solbakken? Three titles in four years?

Hmmm... not sure that's a good enough ratio for us!

;)

Paul 67

I take it from the names you mention, then your of the opinion that guys like.

Erikkson
Ranieri
Trapatoni
Rikaard
Jol
Van Basten
etc

Are not within our reach?

Paul,

"He bombed in 2008, finishing third behind Aalborg and losing at Pittodrie, but got back on track this year."

I can think of at least one club where he wouldn't get the chance to get things back on track after after his bomb

StillShakingWithAnger.csc

Joe Kernan with Kieran McGeeney!
L53

From the last thread

Donegal Danny,

Agree with improving the stale product but does your answer suggest that if we don't win the league (as Europe is downgraded this year it seems) we should sack the new incumbent as he has failed ?

Celtic is the team - You're having a laugh surely ? The cesspit that is the scottish press had evidence of Gordon's anti-celtic fan outbursts and didn't use it ? Makes no sense in their campaign against him and the club. None whatsoever.

Big Wavy

Paul67 - I hadn't considered Solbakken. Good shout there. Copenhagen played some nice, expansive football aswell. I agree, it is a shame about Gerets. I wonder if he has any ambition left or if he just wants his pension?

You heard any rumblings about who they have "jetted off" to see today Paul?

Any candidate will have to be told to be nice to the Scottish media or face the consequences of incurring their wrath.
On second thoughts, it is not worthwhile being nice to the Scottish media ..... they will always find an excuse for getting at a Celtic manager.

From Previous Post:

For me this whole "Celtic Minded" thing is being used by some to push an agenda set by the media. That clown Rafferty should have kept his trap shut as it is playing into their hands.

"Celtic Minded" (whatever the hell is actually means) is for me a positive point for a new manager. It is however a point the manager should be using to sell himself to the board for the job, not one the board should be using as some sort of criteria to get the job.

The candidate should say "I can do A, have done B, amd learning C. Have achieved x,y and z. Oh and I have a previous connection to the club."

It is a tertiary point that should be used as a throw in to make yourself look more appealing to the board. In no way should it be in the criteria for the post. I am confident though the board are not that stupid but I am not so confident that they won't appoint somebody based on the previous incumbents reccomendation. It is what they did last time after all...

Paul67,

Solbaaken would be the man for me.

No matter who it is Celtic must move quickly, as the time to win back the Championship starts now.

Inside information, Paul?

I'm particularly intrigued by "He likes Celtic, but, on Friday he a very expensive contract offer arrived on his desk from Saudi Arabia. He would be my first choice but I fear it's too late."

Implies conversation have already taken place...

Any more comment?

celtic is my team, thank you. Credit to the CQN community....

WGS, Ottmar is unlikely to take this job at his place in life, Jol unlikely to leave Germany.

TheLeftWinger, not quite.

DeniaBhoy, no, I researched this issue at great length yesterday and decided he was a good shout.

Ellbhoy, they may well be within our reach but I am less convinced they are the way forward or would be up for such a challenge.

StevieS, I hear you.

RogueLeader, no info.

oisin71, aye.

"best of all, I'm sure he could not name you a single Hibs player" - ahhahahahahahahah

Wim Jansen

Henke as his assistant.

A Bhoy can dream

Yesterday, the blog was more down than up whenever I logged on, so nice to see it back up and running as normal....that's not a criticism Paul, these things happen.
Anyway my ginal word on our ex-manager.
Thanks for the three titles Gordon I wish you well, but you had peaked at Celtic and did the right thing. We were not playing well last season. Fresh ideas, fresh bodies required.
To the board....just get it right.

The rumour that I keep hearing, and bearing in mind its one rumour of many we we will hear, is that it is Curbishley.

FROM LAST THREAD

I think the new manager will have a decent (not great) budget as a result of various factors. Players will leave, leaving extra money from what is already there, through fees and wages.

I think we may see a few exciting and quality buys this summer, providing we get the right man in. He must be trusted with our money now as, like was pointed out earlier, he will most-probably-not get another kitty like it.

The new man must be able to spot a player so there is little or no money wasted....does that say Keane? No. Keane undoubtedly meets the other requirements (leader, motivator, knowledge of game, household name) but the way he went about his business at Sunderland does not sit right with me. Spending all that money only for him to turn around and bail was nothing short of cowardice. Controversial, Keane...a coward??? Have I gone too far there? No.

Not Keane.

HAIL HAIL

Cadizzy

The question is would you like Mr Souness, good experience, knows the Scottish game, European experience.

No?

Then you don't want Mr Moyes

Ajax have reached an agreement with Martin Jol. Compensation needs to be agreed with HSV - source NOS Studio Sport.

Solbaaken is that just your opinion Paul or have you heard any whispers?

Seems a name out of left field.

paul 67 do you think keane will be in the mix considering his friendship with desmond

Did you know Solbakken had a heart attack when he was 33!

Interseting bit of trivia from Wiki!!

Lurgan53

Sorry, didn't get a chance to reply to you yesterday. The blog went down for some reason.

Actually bought a season ticket for the National League. 75 Euros - 7 NL matches @ 15 E per game plus the first round of the Championship.

Yeah, that is without doubt the most imaginitive thing the GAA has done in years and would have got one myself but the Tyrone ones had sold out before I even knew they existed. :-(

Wasn't feeling great yesterday and the news of Gordon's departure didn't make me feel any better but as an eternal optimist I will put aside all ill feelings and get back to supporting the team no matter who is in charge.

I would echo your thinking of Big Joe and Kieran but I would go for Mickey Harte. Would 3 titles in 6 years be acceptable but?

Good luck for both teams on Sunday and I hope we have another classic match.

Hail Hail

Mort

Big Wavy, you are being naive sir if you think everything that goes on and is said at press conferences is reported.

As I said, the comments may well come out, but lets not pretend Starchan didnt think most of us are 'kestrel drinking, devil dog owners."

He had little respect for us, and in turn most of us gave him little back. I'd say thats fair enough.

Now I'm going out to play with the family.
Hope to see a new name in sooner rather than later.

I have never subscribed to the "should be Celtic Minded philosphy". All i want is a manager that knows what the expectations are for the seasons ahead and has a was of cash to do so. Celtic Minded can be a curse as well as a blessing and can put an awful lot of added pressure to an intense position.

Remember for every Martin O'Neill there is a Lou Macari.

I hadn't even thought of Solbakken but would be an excellent acquisition if we could get him.

Paul, do you foresee an appointment in the immediate future i.e by this time next week?

SSB Hopingforthebumblebeeanddecentreplacementmanager.csc

you haven't mentioned any of the other tipped candidates Paul67.

McGhee, McCarthy, Levein, Mowbray?

Thanks and good luck to WGS. He did his best for us.

Good luck, too, to PL in his recruitment drive.

I'll be astonished, however, if we manage to get a "big name" coach/manager with the experience and track record we all crave.

If we do, then it will need to be because he really wants this job. Why else would a top coach wish to come to our club (which I love as dearly as anyone and for which I have the highest hopes), with our hugely limited ability to sign and retain top players - for there is surely a deal of rebuilding to be done.

Maybe our best bet is for a young, enthusiastic manager on the up.

In the passing, if we can't lure someone from the wish list, perhaps Willie McStay would tick enough boxes - though such an appointemt might appear like a cheap option and not someone in whom the fans would have confidence in driving forward his own agenda.

Fingerscrossedanyway.csc

Did you know Solbakken, after his heart attack, was pronounced dead at the scene by medical crew, he was 33!

He is currently still alive though......Jesus Christ!

paul,

did ebbe skovdhal not have a similar record in Denmark before going to Aberdeen?
he wasn't too clever there.

js

Chris Sutton

celtic is my team

So what was said that I naively missed ? Now he has exited I am sure you can share.

I'm not pretending anything by the way. I didn't see this caricature you described because I seen no evidence of it.

Happy to be enlightened if this evidence has been hidden away. Over to you sir. The floor is yours.

Big Wavy

Big Wavy

A lot will depend on what the Huns do, if they go out and splurge on players then it'll be tough to win the league if we do not spend big. I just can't see that happening.

As I said I think any manager with a bit of talent and a few new players can win the league back, we should've done it this year.

I know you're trying to get me to say 'manager out after one year' but i'm not going to.:-)

It all depends on who the man is, I honestly can't see us losing the league to this hhun team if we get a decent guy in.

DD

Paul67 – I fear an ordinary appointment may be about to happen, but hope to be proved wrong. I’m realistic enough to know who we can’t even attempt to bring in and unfortunately I think even a good coach like Roy Hodgson is now beyond our reach. I reckon Tony Mowbray, Mark McGhee or John Collins may be given the job.

Someone who I think we could get, and who would fit the boards’ vision, is Glenn Hoddle and John Gorman and I know from meeting the latter that they would walk over broken glass to take the Celtic job.

They have been in pressure jobs previously, play attractive football and would get a good reaction out of the current squad in my opinion, as they are respected.

Good luck to the new manager because he will need it from the moment he walks through the doors at Celtic Park.

Kittochbhoy

Celtic Minded – It doesn’t have to be. Here’s a few people I would consider Celtic greats who were not Celtic-Minded. These are people who have enhanced the record, traditions and profile of our club.

Jock Stein
Henrik Larsson
Lubomir Moravcik

I’m so glad we had these guys.

What if Man Utd had adopted the same approach and not gone for the world’s most successful manager in Sir Alex F. I would have him as next Celtic manager – no problem.

So (if the stories are to be believed) Davy Moyes used to indulge in a bit of dressing room banter and sing Rang*rs songs, so what? This was many years ago and Moyes comes across as a very gifted manager and an inspirational character. I’m sure he’s not Everton minded. I imagine the Everton fans still love him despite this.

If we limit our search to Celtic-Minded individuals, that would petty and parochial. We would be ruling out so many people that could take Celtic to the next level.

I just want the right man for the job.

Glenn Hoddle!!! Would Peter Rafferty consider a Buddhist to be Celtic minded!!!!????

Best

I know who I want fir manager and they better take ma choice,
because me, listen, I've goat the loudest voice,
if they don't pick mine, I'll no support, any other guy,
its me, its mine, or nothin, so don't you even try.

The best wans they are obvious, fir comin tae oor team,
Eriksson or Hitzfeld, I can only dream,
I don't want Tony Mowbray, I don't want Mark McGee,
I want somedae famous, maybe even me.

So don't you dare and pick wan, no when I'm no there,
I want tae be at the interview, sittin oan a chair,
you see, I will be useful, helpin with yer pick,
I know so much about fitba, so get in touch, real quick.

IknowbestCSC

2005

Lawwell to MoN: " Got any mates who'd fancy this ?"

Mon: " Wee Gordon. Not a mate really but he keeps phoning."

Lawwell: " Fine. Sorted. "

2009

Lawwell to Strachan: " Got any mates who'd fancy this ?"

Strachan: " Mark McGhee. He stayed wi' me for a bit. "

Lawwell: " Fine. Sorted. "

Now let's all get back to work.

I hope the board have taken note - the CQN community have already came up with over a dozen names that would get the juices flowing and show some vision and ambition.

They should also note that we seem to be united that Mark McGhee IS NOT THE ANSWER. No matter what Gordon says....

Paul 67

I take it from your article, that it is not Curbishley as amy mates keep saying.

MOwbray looks by far the front runner now. WBA refusing to comment on speculation, which from their fans point of view cant be a good thing.

Bookies have him very strong joint favourite with Coyle.

oisin71 - are you proclaiming him the Messiah?

paul67

if he goes to saudi that would be a real shame about gerets, when his name came up on sunday everyone agreed he sounded like a right goodun.

i like the sound of solbakken

celtic is my team

Did we actually deserve Strachans respect? I personally think that the ungrateful fans amongst us didn't. 3 titles in a row whilst saving our club from financial problems and still they wanted him to leave.

He had to go.

P20 W13 D2 L5 not good enough

Departing the Scottish Cup against lowly opposition.

Dressing room bust up with high profile player.

Notbecausehewasn'tCelticmindedCSC.

Alight Danny, I'lll stop my badgering then.

The huns, regardless, are likely to remain fairly the same next year and will be there and there abouts at the end. In what is now a transitional year I'd also like to think we get the right man in, the right choices on incomings and outgoings and gel quickly and effectively.

However, there's no guarantee and a chance that the new incumbent gets it all Barnes-like.

We can't enter a phase where we are publically advocating a new boss every year. If we fail to enter the CL I can guarantee that those who battered Gordon will begin mumbling about 'going backwards'....

Big Wavy

Paul,

First of all I'd like to agree with your sentiments re: Gordon Strachan - he did a first rate job for us!

He maybe more appreciated with hindsight, but his timing to leave was good. I don't think he was going to achieve much more @ Celtic Park - ALL the best & Good luck Gordon

'Davie Moyes, ticks most of the boxes but only one manager has left an FA Premier League club to take charge at another club in the league's 17 year history, and there are not many Martin O'Neills out there.'

TRUE & TRUE

Yet one thing they have in common is under-achievement in Europe. I'd like someone with a proven track record.

Onwards & Upwards

there'sonlyone martino'neillCSC

Paul,

Well I suppose I have been raising my voice a bit :-)

celtic is my team,

He's gone. Job done. You can stop the back stabbing now.

jscscno1

Quite similar however he only won 3 in a row with Brondby(1996, 1997 and 1998) and lost out in 1999.

Hail Hail

Mort

do u know something i know?

iknowuknow

Vini

We all welcomed the trophys but even the most loyal WGS fan must admit the football was very poor, the tactical decision found wanting on a number of occasions, and the record in the transfer market very hit and miss, more miss than hit too.

The titles were nice, but surely its not just about winning, not for Celtic fans, we want to do it with a pride in the way our side plays. Apart from his 1st season that was never the case under Strachan, we got steadily worse each year, not better.

DD,
it will be a cold day in hell before I gather under any banner of unity with you and your ilk, you more than anyone on here are guilty of a personal vendetta against the ex-manager and the drumming up of support for your opinion.
Now you have what you set out for 4 years ago, I wonder how any new manager will fair with people like you pretending to have anything other than your own self-interest at heart.

Is MON a non starter?

Maybe the realisation that Villa will never be a top 4 club is setting in. Can't see him getting the Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal or Man Utd job anytime soon.

If he's on one of his famous rolling contracts then compensation should not be out of the question.

Wonder if he's been asked.

Strong suggestions is that OWEN COYLE will be appointed and it may already be a DONE DEAL

Lets see what happens either way

Come on the hoops, lets win this title back by March 2010

Lets blow the manky mob away

Hail Hail

Won't be reading a paper for a while yet but I can tell you what they aren't saying - Rangers are ordinary and only won the league because Celtic are rubbish. Swap the club names and does it sound familiar?

I am also certain our new manager won't be getting the Paul Le Guen treatment.

In fact, would Mr Le Guen not be a good choice? Surely his motivation to succeed would be considerable ;0)

only kidding...i know nothing

but he was my tip along with adriaanse before ad. took the galatasary job

WBA indicate that a compensation fee of £1 million plus will be required if we want Mowbray.

Not gonna happen methinks. Bookie or no bookies favourite.

Big Wavy

Kittochbhoy

Bringing Souness into the mix and equating him with Moyes is a flawed argument in my view

I have heard nothing from David Moyes (an ex Celtic player)that has been derogatory about Celtic (the opposite in fact)and I think I would trust his public utterances that I hear first-hand than unsubstantiated gossip about what was said in a Scunthorpe dressing room years ago. The antipathy that Souness shows towards Celtic is evident whenever he is on Sky on CL nights.....I think that Moyes is also a far better manager than Souness ever was or ever will be and he is a far more compelling human being. Finally, as far as I know, at no time has he had a ridiculous Yosser Hughes moustache (which is the clincher.

However, as I said before, I think he will stay where he is.Souness can also stay where he is as long as that is somewhere deeply unpleasant.

Paul

i watched copenhagen ajax . Rarely was there such a farcical match, ajax should have progressed, but following this their gaffer has never been out classed at the top level.

Co Adrianse is a free agent currently, surely ticking the attacking football and cheap boxes, does well with low budget sides.

I would like to know your gut feeling paul.

Will we get a brit or a foreigner??

Paul67

I have always maintained the manager is the single biggest appointment a club can make and whilst i understand the need for swift action, it must be considered.

Whilst i know little of Ståle Solbakken i think the sentiment of looking beyond the SPL and Championship is a sound one.

However my fear is anything less than a 'big name' as is likely will see a manager start on the same footing as Gordon - everything to prove from the off with CL qualification looming.

I also think funds are an issue, Gordon has spent i think circa £10m net or £2.5m a season. would this tempt a credible manager?

First of all, if anyone notices Mark McGhee lurking near the lukewarm Manager's seat in the Celtic dugout at Paradise,
don't hesitate to give Strathclyde Police a call and have him arrested!

"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players" - said Our Greatest ever Manager. I'm sure he would reserve that view for the Manager's post at Celtic Park. On that basis, you can count out Tony Mowbray and Owen Coyle.

Tony Mowbray, an ex- Celt, seems to be held at high regard in many of the bookmakers. Mowbray seems to be held at high
esteem with many of our supporters also, but why? What has this guy achieved in management? Sure enough, he had Hibs
playing free-flowing attack-minded football with some of the best young talent Scotland had to offer back then. It achieved
zilch......ok, so various media hacks gave him pats on the back but where is the trophies? Nowhere to be seen! He under-
achieved at Hibs with a decent team.

Mowbray moved to West Brom, and continued to play his brand of exciting football in The Championship and in turn, West
Brom achieved promotion. A good feat for West Brom and Tony Mowbray, as nothing is ever easy in football or life in general.
A few weeks ago, their short stay in the EPL was ended - in failure. Phil Brown and Tony Pulis kept the promoted Hull City
and Stoke City, respectively, in the EPL.

So why couldnt Tony keep West Brom in the EPL? Where was the success at Hibs? Thats a questions our esteemed board
should ask themselves that when they discuss the candidate, Tony Mowbray.

Now, on to the man of the moment, Owen Coyle. Owen, an lifelong Celtic supporter, can show much affinity with us in the
stands - he is one of us! Everyone at club would love a Celtic Supporter at the helm, playing football the 'Glasgow Celtic Way'.
It does give a strong romantic feeling, one of our own leading us. We have not had that since the much missed Tommy Burns.
With Tommy, it didnt bring us success. I think it was too early for Tommy and he would have achieved much more at our club
if he had more experience - actually, if that great man was still with us, now would have been his time!

Owen is very much like Tommy was back then. Playing beautiful football, Celtic supporter but not experienced enough for a
club the size of Celtic. If I was Owen, I would take the gamble and stay with Burnley. Learn his trade and become a better
manager. He is very much one for the future, just not now!

I feel McGhee, Mowbray and Coyle's names are being banded about because of the whole 'Celtic-Minded' nonsense that
overshadowed Gordon Strachan's (best of luck for the future and thanks for the memories Wee Man!!) stay at Paradise.
A 'Celtic-Minded' manager don't mean success, never has and never will. People like Peter Rafferty, who is our apparent
'spokesman' (not mine, mate!), is regularly using the term 'Celtic-Minded'. This guy, who holds an important position, should have enough intelligence not to speak for all, he gives his own opinion - nothing else. Or is it a thing that supporter's spokesmen have in common, they talk a lot of bull (see David Edgar)!

At Celtic, we need an experienced manager with a strong European pedigree and knowledge. Someone who has success
following him around everywhere he goes. Until a fortnight ago, i would have held a gun to Louis Van Gaal's head and told
him to sign up. He has vast experienced throughout Holland and Spain, with AFC Ajax, Az Alkmaar and FC Barcelona. He
has a fine record in youth development with the Ajax side of '95 and '96 seasons. Also at Barcelona with the likes of Xavi
and Ineista coming through. It's Bayern's gain with Van Gaal, they have got a quality coach and we have to aim for that.

That leaves one perfect target in my mind, Herr Ottmar Hitzfeld. He has a tremendous pedigree on the European stage and
very successful domestically in Germany and Switzerland, and in Europe. Sir Alex had, or maybe still has, 'Der General' as
his Number One replacement at Old Trafford which is quite a reference. I believe Ottmar Hitzfeld can be attainable. At 60,
we can still get a few 'right good' years for him and I am positive we would be more successful under his management than
that of McGhee, Mowbray and Coyle (at present time). He has a great reputation throughout World Football to attract great
players. Would the 'Celtic-Minded' three mentioned above achieve this? I would think not.

We need a successful coach to ensure Celtic's success and also a new dominance in Scottish Football and repair our European
reputation. 'Celtic-Minded' managers cannot achieve this at present.

Thats just my opinion. What may be, may be. Any coach who steps into Gordon Strachan's shoes, will have my 100% support,
as Gordon did.

Faithful through and through!

weeminger,
Is it you who says I am!

After the Hearts game there was a big inquest on our players, who we wanted to stay or go. Anyway it inspired this, which I could'nt post at the time due to meltdown.
.
.
Bloody lists

I don't know if I like this player but I'm puttin him oan my list,
the people that are the best, the worst, is there anybody that I've missed,
it make me feel a lot better, writing doon their names,
I dae it wae a big marker, a pencils no the same.

I don't care how they've been playin, nae bodies spared my wrath,
any poor pass I remember, mark them doon, a wicked laugh,
they thought, they get away wie it, but I note them in mae head,
anybody that upset me, marked them doon in bloody red.

So nows the day of reckonin, I'll post it on the blog,
right oot there fir aw tae see, I hope they're bloody flogged,
now, I'm feelin better, I've goat it af ma chest,
thank gaud the seasons ended, I need a bloody rest.

nameandshameCSC

Interesting you mention Staale Solbakken, Paul. I had just been discussing him with a friend, an FCK supporter, and he was resigned to the fact Solbakken would leave to a bigger club this summer. I watch Danish football week in week out and reckon he could be a great choice for us. His teams are typically big, strong and fast so he would be needing a few quid to spend. That said, his knowledge of the European market and the scandinavian market in particular should help us pluck a few gems at a reasonable price. I'm sure this would sit well with many at Celtic

But is he Celtic minded though...

Curbishley is a name that I've heard banded about a lot too. He's unattached so ticks the box as for as not having to pay compensation which will be a plus for the board.

Another theory I heard which might be wishful thinking is that Strachan was denied funds in January as the decision was already taken for him to go and money was being kept to attract the new manager.

We must get someone in who plays Good Football.

Before you say , results first and all that , just remember that we are in the SPL.

Hardly a cracking league in terms of quality so why not get a forward thinking manager who can turn this SP-Hell into an entertaining one.

Gordon Strachan has leave a decent template to anyone incoming , players out of contract and leaving , some assets to be sold and hopefully a pretty decent war chest from the board for rebuilding.

Maleys Boy

I totally agree with everything you said.

I don't get hung up on this Celtic Minded thing.

I was delighted when we got Gordon and now very sad that he is gone.

I was only highlighting the difference between not being Celtic Minded but actually being Rangers Minded.

Stale Solbakken is Norwegian. For too long our great Club has suffered from a dearth of Norwegians on the staff.

He had a short spell at Wimbledon under Joe Kinnear and managed to get himself' banned from training', presumably for refusing to join in when the Crazy Gang were trying to superglue Dave Beasant to the crossbar.

celtic is my team

The titles were nice, but surely its not just about winning, not for Celtic fans, we want to do it with a pride in the way our side plays.

Will you still be saying this if we play football the Tommy Burns way over the next 2-3 years but fail to recapture the league?

I agree that winning isn't everything, but I'm not sure the majority of fans would welcome another few barren seasons if the football was of a good quality.

Perhaps that is what we need. We have been spoiled with success recently.

Mort

oisin71 - I emailed his mum for some background on his early years and she tells me he was 'a very noughty boy'.

Manager who is likely to be free, plays attractive football, is not adverse to players being bought by Committee, has excellent European pedigree

Juande Ramos

As far as I understand its looking like Mowbray, WBA's silence on the matter seems to confirm they are at least in talks in my opinion. No offence to big Mogga as I like the way his teams play the game, however I want someone who has been there and done it, and has enough confidence and the ability to create a team which can play attractive football at all times including european competition.

I hated watching Celtic play with backs to the wall it was embarrasing to be honest.

The guys I would like to see in the frame would be....

Hiddink - Dream choice, fantastic pedigree in club and national football must have a huge list of potential signings in his mind. Don't know if he would be interested now though given he was overlooked in the past.
Rijkaard - student of total football
Bilic - Croatia play some great stuff under him
Hitzfeld with Lambert as assistant - hopefully would be a successful pairing with Lambo eventually taking over once trained up.

last one slightly tongue in cheek but wouldn't complain if he came... Paul Le Guen despite what happened at Mordor he is a fantastic manager and would have revenge on his mind!!!

We are Celtic and should be aiming for the upper eschelons not just financial stability, So I hope the next appointment reflects this!

Heard from a friend in Glasgow who is chauffer that he is picking up David O'leary on Thursday at glasgow airport surely not :(

I think it is this simple.

We cannot afford or attract players at their peak, such as the Kovac situation proved in January. The same applies to managers so I think we can rule out rijkaard and van basten.

We need to get a top class manager on the way down, trappa, hitsfeld, hodgson or someone who may become top class on the way up, martinez, psv's gaffer etc.

Either that or get someone who isn't going to be top class but is very good e.g adrianse. I havn't seen any reports that he has taken over at Galatasary..

Canamalar

Lovely stuff

DD

weeminger,

Was she called Mary by any chance!

BBC Sport:
1148 BST: Bundesliga side Hamburg are poised to lose coach Martin Jol to Dutch giants Ajax as a replacement for Marco van Basten. (German newspaper Bild)

Cadizzy

As someone who had a Yosser Hughes moustache that was non-ridiculous (IMHO) and had 'Peeniis, Peeniis' sung at me by members of my own CSC on winning a raffle. I can find other things more odious about The Beast than his choice of facial furniture!

SJ

Ellbhoy - MON turned the job down when the board offered to keep the post open for him.

Nice slideshow of Gordon's time at Celtic

Mort

Is there anyone out there in CQN world with links into the Affiliation of Celtic Supporters Clubs who can confirm whether or not Peter Rafferty is in a formal position with them?

He appears to be a media favourite for quotes when anything controversial happens at Celtic.

The "Celtic-minded" comment attributed to him this week was a poor choice of phrase. Irrespective of what he meant by the phrase, we know what the media interpret the phrase to mean, and the very least I expect from a Celtic supporters spokesperson is knowledge of how that person's comments will be used.

If he is in a formal position I for one think it's time a more astute individual be given the microphone. If he is not, he should be gently discouraged from playing the media game any longer.

Celtic is my Team,

Just who are these ‘most’ fans that didn’t respect Gordon Strachan? Are these the ‘most’ fans that left the ground early on Sunday but the ground was still more than half full of fans applauding? Is this the ‘most’ fans who were amongst the tiny minority that were singing ‘Strachan Out’ after the Motherwell game last year – only to be drowned out by the majority of Celtic supporters?

I suppose these ‘most’ fans were raging at his articulate and poignant tribute to Tommy Burns, at the way he went around the pitch at Kilmarnock and got young boys and girls out of the crowd to celebrate with the team. A huge disrespect that was eh?

I also think you’ll find that ‘most’ supporters don’t phone in to Clyde or Real Radio, so again I’m puzzled by the ‘most’ word. Then again, maybe not, ‘most’ people who do phone into Real Radio fit his description perfectly.
There are also plenty of things that are said ‘off the record’ to reporters; even if he was to let rip at some of the abuse he was getting or the moans and howls that were coming from the ground, who could blame him?

Cadizzy

This is not a subject I am comfortable debating, because like yourself I think Mr Moyes will stay where he is, and he will be happy to as he is on a salary in excess of 3 million per annum.

The indication of his allegience is not only some songs in a dresing room long ago, it is quite openly more than that, and again no problem with that, the man can support whoever he likes, but he likes what we don't.

As I said earlier, I beleieve he is a rank outsider 100/1.

I also believe he is a very compotent manager, and I wish him all the best for this weeks cup final, and I would also be happy to see him managing our club, but I just can't see it.

Le Guen could be our judas apart from all the season ticket burning and the racist signing policy and the clove hooves etc...

As he was on a rolling contract wouldn't WGS have had to have handed his notice in last year?

If so the board must have their man already surely?

Solbakken is interesting and not one i'd considered, perhaps with a Murdo McLeod type as his right hand man?

DD

DD

Or perhaps he will remain on the payroll for another year in the same way MON was when he resigned.

Mort

Steinreignedsupreme on May 26, 2009 12:48 PM

Was not aware of that, was it explained why he came to that decision?

donegaldanny - in practice the year's notice pertains to the amount of money needed to terminate the contract rather than any actual time period which has to be worked (i.e. a yeat's worth of wages or similar)

Paul67

Can you expand on what the boxes are that Moyes is ticking?

U2_1888

I'd check the quotes again I don't think PR actually said 'Celtic minded' but I see the red tops are using it but not as a direct quote.

DD

Someone earlier mentioned the Beast,i would even accept McGhee with opened arms before that Celtic hater.

I would not read too much into WBA not commenting on Mowbray. We did the same when Strachan was linked with Sunderland and others. Means nothing and is just club policy I think.

Steinreignedsupreme, I think Roy Hodgson would be a good choice!

U2_1888 on May 26, 2009 12:48 PM
In the late 90's he was the President of the Affiliation, not sure now though.

I always found him to be a good Celtic man in any dealings I had with him as President of a CSC in the south of engerlund.

vmhan

Solbaaken
He's got a touch of
The Skovdahl's

Spelling guessed

Ellbhoy - No reason given. Just a statement that the board offered to leave the position open for a return after a year out and MON declined the offer.

It may not have been yourself who suggested Martin Jol, but whoever did - he's on his way back to Holland seemingly.

Sydney Tim

Love the one about the chaueffer picking up O'Leary at the airport, there's always a taxi driver somewhere who just dropped of the next signing at a hotel in Glasgow, hahaha love it, by no means is this a dig I genuinely enjoy some of the daft stories.

Hail Hail

First of all, if anyone notices Mark McGhee lurking near the lukewarm Manager's seat in the Celtic dugout at Paradise, don't hesitate to give Strathclyde Police a call and have him arrested!

"Celtic jerseys are not for second best, they don't shrink to fit inferior players" - said Our Greatest ever Manager. I'm sure he would reserve that view for the Manager's post at Celtic Park. On that basis, you can count out Tony Mowbray and Owen Coyle.

Tony Mowbray, an ex- Celt, seems to be held at high regard in many of the bookmakers. Mowbray seems to be held at high esteem with many of our supporters also, but why? What has this guy achieved in management? Sure enough, he had Hibs playing free-flowing attack-minded football with some of the best young talent Scotland had to offer back then. It achieved zilch......ok, so various media hacks gave him pats on the back but where is the trophies? Nowhere to be seen! He under-achieved at Hibs with a decent team.

Mowbray moved to West Brom, and continued to play his brand of exciting football in The Championship and in turn, West Brom achieved promotion. A good feat for West Brom and Tony Mowbray, as nothing is ever easy in football or life in general. A few weeks ago, their short stay in the EPL was ended - in failure. Phil Brown and Tony Pulis kept the promoted Hull City and Stoke City, respectively, in the EPL.

So why couldnt Tony keep West Brom in the EPL? Where was the success at Hibs? Thats a questions our esteemed boardshould ask themselves that when they discuss the candidate, Tony Mowbray.

Now, on to the man of the moment, Owen Coyle. Owen, an lifelong Celtic supporter, can show much affinity with us in the stands - he is one of us! Everyone at club would love a Celtic Supporter at the helm, playing football the 'Glasgow Celtic Way'. It does give a strong romantic feeling, one of our own leading us. We have not had that since the much missed Tommy Burns. With Tommy, it didnt bring us success. I think it was too early for Tommy and he would have achieved much more at our club if he had more experience - actually, if that great man was still with us, now would have been his time!

Owen is very much like Tommy was back then. Playing beautiful football, Celtic supporter but not experienced enough for a club the size of Celtic. If I was Owen, I would take the gamble and stay with Burnley. Learn his trade and become a better manager. He is very much one for the future, just not now!

I feel McGhee, Mowbray and Coyle's names are being banded about because of the whole 'Celtic-Minded' nonsense that overshadowed Gordon Strachan's (best of luck for the future and thanks for the memories Wee Man!!) stay at Paradise. A 'Celtic-Minded' manager don't mean success, never has and never will. People like Peter Rafferty, who is our apparent 'spokesman' (not mine, mate!), is regularly using the term 'Celtic-Minded'. This guy, who holds an important position, should have enough intelligence not to speak for all, he gives his own opinion - nothing else. Or is it a thing that supporter's spokesmen have in common, they talk a lot of bull (see David Edgar)!

At Celtic, we need an experienced manager with a strong European pedigree and knowledge. Someone who has success following him around everywhere he goes. Until a fortnight ago, i would have held a gun to Louis Van Gaal's head and told him to sign up. He has vast experienced throughout Holland and Spain, with AFC Ajax, Az Alkmaar and FC Barcelona. He has a fine record in youth development with the Ajax side of '95 and '96 seasons. Also at Barcelona with the likes of Xavi and Ineista coming through. It's Bayern's gain with Van Gaal, they have got a quality coach and we have to aim for that.

That leaves one perfect target in my mind, Herr Ottmar Hitzfeld. He has a tremendous pedigree on the European stage and very successful domestically in Germany and Switzerland, and in Europe. Sir Alex had, or maybe still has, 'Der General' as his Number One replacement at Old Trafford which is quite a reference. I believe Ottmar Hitzfeld can be attainable. At 60, we can still get a few 'right good' years for him and I am positive we would be more successful under his management than that of McGhee, Mowbray and Coyle (at present time). He has a great reputation throughout World Football to attract great players. Would the 'Celtic-Minded' three mentioned above achieve this? I would think not.

We need a successful coach to ensure Celtic's success and also a new dominance in Scottish Football and repair our European reputation. 'Celtic-Minded' managers cannot achieve this at present.

Thats just my opinion. What may be, may be. Any coach who steps into Gordon Strachan's shoes, will have my 100% support, as Gordon did.

Faithful through and through!

The Chief - who should learn to format posts properly!

Somebody gives me a few reasons why not Ottmar Hitzfeld?

McGrain

Paul67,

Ståle Solbakken, been in charge of Copenhagen for four years and won three leagues. He bombed in 2008, finishing third behind Aalborg and losing at Pittodrie, but got back on track this year.

Is that not Gordon Strachan you're talking about..i think you've got your 2008s and 2009s mixed up though.

TBFTL

most Celtic fans wanted Strachan out. Over 80% I believe on this site alone. (worked out the positive posts to the negative ones)

I dont miss games, I dont leave early,

I did want Strachan gone and I am delighted he has moved on.

Can we stop all of this 'your not a true fan cause you dont like our manager'

I thought this would stop but people like you are still having a go.

Strachans teams got worse as time went on. The fans were becoming more alienated and the players were losing belief.

Only a blind man would fail to see this.

The Chief@12:39pm

An interesting call with Ottmar Hitzfield... And surely Paul Lambert would tick all the boxes for his Number 2? And with my Wish List mode now in Overdrive, what about Henrik as an additional Coach?

Yours in Celtic,

Jim.

KeepTheFaithCSC

Antsbhoy

I think Moyes ticks all the boxes. (I would say he's as successful as MON was pre-Celtic and more successful than Gordon Strachan pre Celtic.

Excellent record with Everton (given the resources at is disposal)
Intelligent and driven individual.
Seems to be an inspirational leader.
He wants to win things (he knows that he can't win the premiership. best he can hope for is a cup final every couple of years)

I don't think we'll get him.....unless he has a release clause.

Steinreignedsupreme on May 26, 2009 12:59 PM

Thank's for that.

Wasn't me who mentioned Jol but it's a shame he is no longer an option. IMO someone of that ilk would have been ideal.

The board must start at the top and work their way down.

The best man for the job is Davie Moyes.

Show some ambition Dermot and do what it takes to bring him to Celtic Park as he would jump at the chance to manage our club if the role gives him the control he wants.

Paul67,

I've heard that the board are only considering two names (but I do not know whose names they are), are you able to confirm?

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moyes is on £80,000 a week at everton

I for one would love a team similar to the team that we had under TB, imo that team would sail to the spl title comparing what we are up against now to back then. Good attacking football because it never won trophies then doesn't mean it wouldn't win trophies now.

Paul,
Glad to see you didn't list Mowbray, McGhee and Levein.IMO they would be a step backwards. Surely the selection criteria should be:
a) proven winner
b) experience in Europe
c) his teams play attractive, but winning football

I don't list 'Celtic minded" as one, but a nice-to-have.

CelticgetoutoftheSPL CSC

MaBaw on May 26, 2009 1:07 PM

Agreed......go get him Celtic.

whoever has been earmarked, sooner rather than later please.

Motherwell just awarded a place in the Europa cup.....Skysports

vmhan
off ooot for a bit.

Kittochbhoy,

I'm with you on a change of subject

SpanishJohn, I'll share a secret with you. For most of the 80's and half of the 90's I too had that kind of moustache which if not trimmed suffficiently could come perilously close to a Mercury type moustache. Coincidentally, I shaved it off just before going on a business trip to San Francisco.

MaBaw

good point mate

we MUST start at the top and work our way down

Sorry Antsman - didn't mean to call you Antsbhoy.

I like the Hitzfeld and Lambert suggestion. No chance of Henke coming as a number 3 though in my opinion.

Motherwell have been awarded Europa cup place on fair play system. Hopefully that will entice Mr cGhee to stay there for a while longer.

Donegal Danny,
If Solbakken goes anywhere I expect his assistent Baard Wiggen to follow

MaBaw on May 26, 2009 1:07 PM

Agreed......go get him Celtic.

whoever has been earmarked, sooner rather than later please.

Motherwell just awarded a place in the Europa cup.....Skysports

vmhan
off ooot for a bit.

Maleysbhoy

Why should McGhee stay at Motherwell for European football when he can get that at his new club......Aberdeen!!

disgruntled again,

Where have I stated that "you're not a true fan if you don't like our mananger"?

I was also not commenting on who wanted Gordon Stachan to leave; I believe you are probably correct that most eventually wanted a change and I fall into that category.

I was commenting on the statement that 'most' fans did not 'respect' Gordon Strachan and that he did not respect the fans; this I belive is complete nonsense.

Jim The Tim

Would absolutely love Henke back as a coach at Celtic Park but don't think he would entertain it. Think 18 holes at some golf course in Sweden would be much more his thing.

Only way we could see him in a coaching or managerial position is at a Swedish club then maybe, he would take the carrot in front of him at Celtic Park - but only if he is successful.

Quite agree on Paul Lambert, has had limited success and decent experience in the lower levels of English Football, so would not find an Assistant Manager's role a step down, with Herr Hitzfeld as Number One. Also, Hitzfeld holds Paul in very high esteem and that partnership can hold attraction for both of them and not to mention the name of Celtic being a big pull.

The Chief

It's maybe just me but there's something about Moyes I just dont like, cant put ma finger on it just something about him. Before you starting chucking cyber bricks at me if he gets the job then so be it and he'll have my support but there's just a gut feeling about him that rubs me up the wrong way.

Bhoy Fett on May 26, 2009 12:24 PM
'you haven't mentioned any of the other tipped candidates Paul67.
McGhee, McCarthy, Levein, Mowbray?'

I'm sorry Bhoy Fett, but thank God Paul hasn't mentioned them. Celtic is still a big name. We can do better. These men are suspects, not prospects as wee Fergus described Dalglish & Co..

Hitzfeld & Lambert is the dream team thats being mentioned that excites me, has all the attributes, cant think of anything thats missing there

DrogDave

An anagram of Davie Moyes - Domesday V I

I would think that Gordon Strachan recommending Mark MgGhee as his successor would automatically rule Mark MgGhee out as a candidate for the vacant position. The reason Gordon got himself and Celtic into such a fankle towards the end of his stay was his inability to think clearly and make good decisions.

If he is recommending Mark we should stay well away from him if only because we now know that Gordon's previous good judgement during his time at Celtic has well and truly deserted him in recent months.

mcgrain

i think he's still contracted to the swiss national job and turned down an offer to go back to bayern munich when they sacked klinsman.

I see that someone called mcgraininspainagain has had his comment deleted by the moderator on the comments section relating to the Ewen Murray article in the Guardian. If indeed it is our very own mcgraininspain, could he please post it on here so we can see if our moderators are up to the task?

For those touting Co Adriaanse, wasn't he Ajax coach when we tore them apart at the Amsterdam ArenA? May be wrong but he has a chequered career. Massive risk in my book.

luckybhoy

I like it or then again do I......my gut feeling not any better now hahaha

DrogDave,

This isn't a brick.

Have a look at his interview on the Sky Sports web-site.

I think he comes across quite well and he also speaks well of his time at Celtic.

It might not change your mind but it's worth a look.

DonegalDanny,

I did exactly as you suggested - spot on. Media mince again. Why didn't I do that to start with?? Peter Rafferty's interview as actually quite good this time. Credit where it's due.

Farewell to Gordon Strachan and thanks for the great memories. Always sad to see a manager leaving a club but he has assured himself of a place in Celtic history with 3 in a row and two last sixteen CL places. Oh and a few quality press conferences.

Dermot Desmonds comments were at best ill conceived and at worst a GIRUY to the Celtic support. If he had an inkling of a notion about how the Celtic fans are feeling at the moment he would know that the last thing, the very last thing that Celtic fans want to know this week is how good the balance sheet looks.

I fear that will he still exerts influence at the club we are urinating against a force 10 gale.

By geebee1978 on May 26, 2009 1:26 PM
Co Adriannse was the coach of Ajax when we beat them in the CL qualifier, if i remember correctly he was also the coach 2 weeks later when Van Der Vaart ripped us apart at CP. His managerial record is patchy to say the least, and he seems to be a bit eccentric.

geebee1978

by all accounts Co Adriaanse has taken the Galatasary job, thats what I read on here earlier anyway. Also we'll be hard pushed to find a manager that doesn't have a black mark against him somewhere down the line.

Has anyone read the Sun article "He brought a sad end on himself" written by anonymous. It really is garbage of the highest order and so shameful the "author" wouldn't even put his own name on it.

Mort

With regards to Davie Moyes (probably my own preferred choice), I was down at Everton earlier this year (doing a bit of corporate "entertaining") and had 8 Everton lads in my company (all season ticket holders).

They all to a man love Moyes, but they all to a man reckoned he would leave them to come to us.

In fact they mentioned that Moyes had mentioned previously that he would love a shot at managing Celtic............or rangers!

I also had a wee word with Derek Mountfield ex centre-half and now "corporate host" at Everton. I cheekily told him that I was sure Celtic would be happy to take Moyes off their hands if and when WGS left. His reply......"don't even go there"! It was not something he wanted to contemplate.
I tried to get him to elaborate, but he wouldn't and headed off.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Having not had the comp on for a couple of days i had to come on as i was hearing my cheery pal Sydney Tim was making an arse of himself on Monday morning on here and other places
(by the way its your round ST)

Having spent many a night having strachan debates with him
and as you would expect they were very passionate it saddened me that after the hibs game he had lost my support

He had said things that puzzled me like "my team don't need a team talk " and gave the strange vibe of delusion

It pained me as it just gave fuel to ST to start ranting again

but although i understand he rightly mistrusted the old media it just seemed so tired and not the right vibe to be giving his team before three bloody big games

I liked the guy
liked his moral compass and sense of honour
but to quote the man himself about 8 years ago
" a manager has a shelf life of around three years then players and even yourself stop listening"
this year i think he proved himself correct

Good luck to a decent man whom brought us 3in a row
and a trophy every year he was here
PS sydney tim don't leave me with a drink in my hand for you to go and type badly but i can picture you typing so angrily that that's why the keys kept repeating you have made me laugh after a sad ending to the season

bhoys from the county hell @1.16
yer man solbakken is so leftfield i'd expect chief clancy wiggum as his deputy

Haven´t had a chance to Hail Hail Gordon Strachan since the announcement was made. A brave and hounorable man. He will be marked down as a legend by me. It was a pity his teams were not as good as his media work. Where he is the master. The laptop loyal will be having a party this weekend and that is a shame. Gordon Thank you and your family for all your sacrifices and turning the club around.

Although I have stated many times that I feel his removal will be cosmetic without structural changes. I cant see any of the candidates mentioned that I would consider contemplating working under PL.

So I hope it is the beginning of a new direction for the club or at the very least a consolidation of the direction that we are going in. If we again accept the recommendation of the outgoing manager ..serious questions need to be asked.

I would go for Steve Coppell. Someone who has a wealth of experience. Understands big club mentality. Is good at developing youth and is a realist who would uncover a few gems within our price range.

Would he be willing to work under PL - We need to ask the question

Hail Hail

Out of the names mentioned so far its Martin Jol for me.

hope they get the new manager so we can see what the team will be like in Brisbane on the 12th
god i can believe i am actually looking forward to the 12th!!!!
i truly live upside down
i would give willy mcstay a shout

TBFTL

Just watched the 'Everton pushing for final win' video on sky sports, is this the clip you were reffering to ? To be honest he sounds like he thinks he can take Everton "the best side in his time there so far" on to bigger and better things, so would probably rule him out.

Listen I appreciate you pointing me in some sort of direction but I have no logical reason for my Moyes mistrust other than Luckybhoys anagram I suppose. Honestly its just one of these starnge things that cant be explained.

Like I said if he gets the job he'll will have my 100% support.

Paul 67

Assuming the club knew before the weekend that WGS was leaving........and I believe that highly probable.........would the club not already have honed in on their desired target(s) and be well on their way to getting their man? Kojo said as much last night.

I'd love us to go and get a big name like Hitzfeld or Jol or Moyes but lets face it every penny is a prisoner and I'd rather we didn't blow a large % of our filthy lucre on a manager who is immediately restricted by the fact that a large chunk of the clubs transfer spend was actually used up on himself.

I've no idea about the Norwegian bloke or who else is out there that fits the boards requiremets but whomever it is I hope he's arriving pronto and giving PL plenty of time to get out into the maket place and bringing in a quality striker and a midfield general.

I reckon we've a nucleus of a decent side, some added pace and directness and bite in midfield and we're gonna do just fine.

Not been WGS biggest fan I admit, but wish him good luck wherever he decides to take on as his next club.

Hail Hail!

Some very interesting names there Paul. Are you merely throwing a few in to add to those mentioned previously as the favourites, or do you know something??

Would love to see a Gerets/ Hitzfeld/ Jol/ Hodgson type appointed. Someone with European experience, a winner. None of the SPL names quoted do much for me. They have not had a high pressure job before and an appointment of a McGhee or a Levein would be a gamble. Of course gambles sometimes pay off... but can go spectacularly wrong too.

Why not the likes of Adrianse or Avram Grant? Good reputation with a number of clubs.

From left field, how about Glenn Hoddle for an appointment with imagination? I suppose some would want to know if he is a Catholic Bhuddist or a Protestant Buddist though. Wonder what he thinks Kyle Lafferty was in a previous life?

I am glad to see some creativity and positive suggestion today. The ‘Not so and so’ ad nauseam was driving me to distraction and, thankfully, drink.

The manager’s job. Therein lies the key word. Job.

It’s not a riddle and it’s not a lottery. We need a set of criteria and we need to prioritise. We need to draw up a list of candidates then approach them to allow them to decide if they will work within our salary parameter and spending budget. Easy!

So what is the measurable criteria?

The CV. History of achievement and its relevance to the Scottish game, i.e relevance to ‘the job’.

Personal opinion of the employer will come into this to some degree. For example is winning the Danish league comparable with the SPL, or is the English Championship a better measure? Or La Liga? Or Serie A? Many coaches and managers have not travelled well, particularly Scandinavians.

Experience. Longevity of employment in isolation is not enough or Barry Fry would be on the shortlist!

It’s experience of working with the class of player we would hope to bring to Celtic. There are players who would sign for one manager but not another, regardless of the Club. The appointment may therefore be the first measure of where our Board see us shopping.

It’s experience within competitions that we would be part of, or at least aspire to be, namely SPL and The Champions League. Martin O’Neill and Gordon Strachan had none to speak of. Both had to learn for themselves under intense scrutiny.

It’s experience of dealing with challenging football competition. Winning a domestic league probably.

Training. Has the candidate learned the basics, are the foundations all in place to ensure they understand structure and the game.

Potential. Possibly in contrast to experience, or at least a different angle. Maybe even using the limited experience and CV as a guide to likely future achievement. A bit like players, but perhaps an analogy might be that a player of 21 may still be mostly potential but far less risky a purchase than the potential of an outstanding 17 year old.

Personal and personnel management skills. Is there a history of strong, respected leadership? Has the media spotlight shone sufficiently to allow a measure of the likely reaction within the job on offer?

References. These may be utterly invaluable when considering a lesser name or foreign manager. Speak to trusted sources who have a much better knowledge of the candidate.

Ability to work within the environment. Will the candidate fit with the permanent personnel already in place, the Board, the Supporters. Style and vision would be under review here. George Graham had almost all of the attributes above for example but his style and ability to fit into the Celtic dynamic would have been badly lacking.

These are just some guidelines off the top of my head. Sadly it is not leading to an all encompassing stop-you-in-your-tracks answer, but if our Board have had the advance knowledge that we all believe they have had they will have had time to draw up criteria massively superior to this and should have a list of candidates. I hope they shoot high and are prepared to take rejection. The skill is in manoeuvring in the job market with a view to extracting likely replies to an offer without ever having to make the offer, something they buggered up big style on with Guus Hiddink.

Paul has thankfully come up with new names today and we’re only a day on from the resignation. The bookies shortlist looks too limited to me and I’m sure with enough time Paul, me or you could source candidates that exceed the levels of criteria satisfaction that would come with the likes of Levein or McGhee. Shouldn’t Celtic be a coveted job for all in football? If not, why not? I don’t believe it’s all the SPL’s fault.

Other than that you draw up a list of all the best managers in the world and grade them. You work from the top of the list down until the best available says yes! That method certainly worked in losing my virginity.

Reading through Celtic cyberspace the worry is that whoever is appointed, unless from out of nowhere and a foreigner, already faces objection from within. Let’s hope that the reality of Celtic Park on matchday one is a welcoming cauldron of noise, passion and enthusiasm, backed with budget and ambition from above to recapture the Title, to progress in Europe and to make the Celtic Park hot seat the most coveted in world football!

Hail Hail!

I have heard that Curbishley had a meeting with Celtic last Wednesday. Reasonably reliable source but don't know where he got his info.

Would have quite liked Felix Magath but he's away to Schalke.

hello all,

not sure how i feel about wgs resigning (sorry that word looks like it is re signing! just noticed it and it gave me a bit of a shiver) but i suppose we all owe him a bit of gratitude for taking on one of the toughest jobs in football. History has recorded the killing fields on which many a manager has perished when taking ont the mantle following the retirement of a great manager. Wgs was one of the c*ckiest so and so's going but i think thei arrogance/supreme confidence in his own ability is a pre-requisite for the next celtic manager also as in a club of our size the amount of opinions and directions which the fans, board, coaches, ex celtic players and current celtic players will want to pull could end up destroying a manager with an ounce of self doubt.

Sorry for the ramble but i guess what i am trying to say is i havent shed any tears over wgs resigning but i would like to offer my thanks for the bravery and persistance during his stewardship of my team. He has left us in a hell of a lot better shape as a club than we were before he joined also so to hell with the begrudgers

Paul67 - I hear the A Team are due to arrive in Germany very soon. Any info? Is this for managerial replacement duty? Marc Janko meeting? Both?

Paul67 and all,

I like the sound of the Copenhagen manager. It is someone like that we need. Not some "Celtic minded" person automatically. Why not bring Marc Rieper back with him and Morten Wieghorst? They have already contributed well at Celtic Park. They could help the new man to understand the pressures that go with the job and they would have the bonus of being Celtic Minded.

DrogDave,

I lied - it was on the BBC web-site in an interview with Gabby Logan.

Time for a little gloaty gloaty,

for all of you celtic fans who were involved in the fantasy football league thanks for the fun and competition this year. A special mention should go to Burton, john gilligan and billy stark who were leading for most of the year until yours truly sneaked in there.

After the horror of last sunday's shattered dreams it was a little consolation to have a good finish among my most repected and knowledgable (about football anyway) celtic fans.

For anyone who cares you may be able to see the final leaderboard from the link below

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/M/table.mc?id=58193

I'd go for that Irish guy
That manages in Germany

What's is name
McGrath big Felix

CelticmindedCSC

TBFTL

I'll check it out, did you watch the one on sky sports ? sounds very much like a man VERY happy where he is.

I've just spoken to a mate "in the know"

His friend is a chauffeur who picks up celebs at the Airport.

This chauffeur used to go out with a girl who knows a Taxi driver in London.

Anyway this taxi driver was talking to one of the stewards at the Emirates Stadium.

This steward had just spoken to a friend who once went fishing with Paddy Power's uncle. According to him it is an odds on certainty that the next Celtic manager will be .....

And as they say in Private Eye - continued on page 94 .... zzzz ....

BTW - Paul67 - Not convinced on Solbaaken. Norwegian coaches don't travel well.

Hail Hail

Care is needed we need a manager who will unite the Celtic support.I for one cant see either McGee or Mowbray doing that Owen Coyle im sure would be given a chance but my own feeling its to early in his career for such a large club.However,as I said on an earlier post it depends on which direction the board want to take Celtic?As fans we will have little or no part in any decision unless large numbers of fans get in touch with the club to voice there opinions and even then they may choose to ignore us.The only way to make our point is to boycot season ticket and merchandise sales hitting the finance is the only way to get the board to listen.May your day be Blessed.

Dino,

Well done on your come from behind victory.

I peaked in Week One when I was in first place, but my team was decimated by injuries and it was all downhill from there. Still, 44th out of 203 is respectable.

But who is that way down there in 202nd??

WGS said that his mind was made up earlier this year and win or lose he was offski at the end of the season. CQN hinted earlier this week before the hearts game that this decision was known to the board. I don’t know exavtly when the decision was passed onto the board, I wonder how long they have known this and what steps if any they have already taken. (Similair to the MON situation) The failure to spend last season did not make sense. Did the board know at the January window?

But the board should be aware that there is significant unrest and apathy amongst the celtic support who have failed to see our financial advantage being turned into points.
Not one single fan will be cheering the accountants books on the opening game of next season.
I hope they don’t underestimate the strength of this.

As a minor point, now might be a suitable occasion for the board to correct some anomalies in the general parkhead celtic experience as well. Attempts to improve atmsosphere, etc. Essential that the tix sales remain strong.

Bhoys, I would take all the reports that PL/DD have had a meeting with X or flown off to speak to Y with a pinch of salt at this stage.

Glasgow Celtic PLC must go through due process of advertising the post and interviewing potentially suitable applicants. They will therefore likely speak with several of those applicants before appointing the new man to the role. So whilst X and Y are potentially in the loop, along with Z, A, B and C, there isn't necessarily anything to be read into the fact that they may or may not be speaking to the club at this stage.

We will know who the new mhan is when an official announcement is made by the club. And I would rather wait and appoint the right man than rush into a decision that we later come to regret.

Faithful through and through.

On the same thought train as Paul67 - none of the domestic names quoted excite myself 1 iota with Moyes perhaps being an exception.
But instinct and Paul's stat on premiership managers not leaving thier own environment suggest that appointment to be highly unlikely.
Echo the sentiment also on having a scouting network with bus passes that allow them to travel further than Dundee and Easter Road.

By Gordon_J on May 26, 2009 1:56 PM

cheers gordon. well done on your stay at the top! I never thought it would be possible to reel you in :)

as to who is that in 202? is that our Paul? (paul brennan?) our font of knowledge and messiah whom we trust to show us the light? well i wont be taking any betting tips from him for the EPL anyway

I think if we have no sign of white smoke by thursday then it may be a good bet that we are waiting for Moyes to get the FA cup out the way before starting compensation negotiations with Everton, just a feeling I have got

Still should be Laudrup for me, worked on a tight budget at Getafe and done well, and gutted spartak moscow of the deadwood, and although they took their time are now back up and running due to the players
He put in place before he was prematurly sacked

Clare's bhoy - Keane and cowardice in the same sentence, tsk tsk, Clare knows more about football than you;)

Paul,
What a wonderful view fae the windae, opening your blinds to Eric Gerets at Bhoystown, yeah spot on, I'd trust him with my football investments. As it all unfolds it will be interesting to find out if the board knew WGS was for the off and is the new man already in place. Let’s hope he’s in place by the end of the week, there’s work to be done.

Go on you Celts.

Just a brief comment off subject for a minute. John Hartson. "most Celtic fans hated Strachan"

Hated?

Most fans probably HATED the brand of football.

Most fans probably lOVED the successes

NO fans HATED Gordon Strachan as a person.

Get a grip Hartson and engage brain before you open your mouth to the press in this country. It's not as if they need further ammunition such as comments like this.

The last 2 foreign managers uncovered arguably 2 of the real classy players we've had on our books in the last decade Jansen > Henke and Dr Jo > Moravcik.

Not suggesting only a foreign coach will do similarly but in the tough transfer times we're facing, a foreign man may just have that obscured knowledge to get us some gems in the making and the sway it needs to get em on board.

I know each manager will contribute to a clubs legacy and bring in gems but those 2 stand out as being pretty special.........

Before anyone reminds me I know Dalgleish\Barnes unearthed Petrov but I'm thinking it's the right time to look beyond the UK shores.

Tis a massive decision for the club..........

Cadizzy at 1:25 PM

It was indeed your very own mcgraininspain being deleted. I don't have the original post, but I was making the point that the author's linking of Celtic fans to religious hatred was at best spurious, and at worst irresponsible the day after it was reported a catholic had been beaten to death by a sectarian gang in Coleraine.

I used the phrase 'gang of Rangers supporters' rather than 'sectarian gang'

Prejudicial perhaps? Anyway I stand by what the main point of my post, it was a very poor and shocking article.

Agree with you on Eric Gerets. He is the sort of manager we need at this point.

Notoneofthpeepil,

One positive about Laudrup would be his connections in europe and how that would help us attract better players. I very much doubt though that the man has the strength of personality or staying power to deal with the pressures at Celtic Park

Dino
Have you handed your application and cv to lawell yet?

Uly McGhee,

You Have Mail!

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

FANTASY PREMIER LEAGUE

im in the last quarter !!!!! cant believe with my knowledge that i had a disaster.

would have helped if i transferred a few and looked at this thruought the season.

ill learn from that.........

now, GIVE ME the big job

Dino
Pauls refusal to pick SBrown was reason for his lowly finish

Moyes is the only realistic candidate from that list.

If DD is prepared to go the distance for him, I think it will be more than worth it.

I envisage big things for Moyes on his next move, so act now or lose out Dermot.

By fan-a-tic on May 26, 2009 2:12 PM

Actually now that you mention it i was interviewed for the job two months ago but at the time i was only in third and i think Burton was favourite. I should think that if they are looking for a "celtic minded" manager with a good grasp of EPL players that i could be back towards the top of the list again.

Maybe i should give DD a quick call? what do you think? :)

Still not heard any reason why it shouldn't be Ottmar Hitzfeld. So it seems like we're all in favour.

Has Gerets not gone to Saudi already?

Ottmar = ceud mile failte

By mackybhoy from the village on May 26, 2009 2:15 PM

For what it counts and going on the theme of the last few weeks here,

BELIEVE

Bottom quarter? better than Paul Brennan anyway (is that really our Paul can anyone tell me?)

twists n turns

"NO fans HATED Gordon Strachan as a person. "

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Guess you don't actually read too many other posters then?

C'mon guys! Which one of you is going to be brave enough to step up to the plate on this one, and admit it? You know who you are. The one's sporting the big cheesy grins since yesterday.

BloodStillBoiling.csc

PjDali. Why is every penny a prisoner? We have no debt we will lose several large salaries soon Bobo,Donatti,JVOH.Hartley,Killen,Naka.

TBFTL

Watched the interview, I'm swayed....a little, mibbe more.

Walter Neff

HAHAHA you should have stuck a name in there just for the craic. I know its a serious business the appointment of a new manager but I like those daft stories 'etims rumour mill' style.

Viewfae....

If it is Geret's would big Bobo stay as his assistant:)

By mcgraininspain

'gang of Rangers supporters'

I have to say I am a wee bit disappointed. I was hoping there would be some real fireworks stuff that could start a whole heated debate on this blog.

I doubt if the extract above will get deleted here. Our moderators are more,well, moderate....or maybe just asleep all the time.

A lot of good names mentioned today to fill the empty manager's seat. In my opinion none of the above is a guarantee for success at Celtic park. There are many things that have to click.

One thing is clear though. Whoever fills the spot the one thing that he won't have is time. It is either success or the support will be on his back because of the worst-rangers-team-in-living-memory nonsense.

I remember being at Hampden making this video in 2005 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVuLGrb_rm0). I believed that there's not a man under this sun to get close to MON. Strachan was my last cup of tea but I bow to the man as he proved me wrong and made me being part of Celtic's history in 3IAR.

His decision to leave I believe is right but I still had mixed emotions. Simply because it will be hard to fill Strachan shoes as well. It will take a stubborn enough man (MON and WGS certainly were) to get over moaning and unfair criticism from a big part of our spoiled support.

Winning CL with Borussia doesn't guarantee success at Celtic. Playing silky football at West Brom doesn't guarantee success at Celtic, taking Burnley up doesn't guarantee success at Celtic, lifting silverware in Kopenhagen doesn't guarantee success at Celtic, bla bla bla.. You could go on with this till dawn.

Choosing a manager is a hard choice and a bigger gamble than signing most players. I hope the gamble will pay off.

Greetings from Slovenia

By fan-a-tic on May 26, 2009 2:15 PM

aye pure stubborn. He should get it into his head that good players can play in any formation as long as they are picked correctly a la FPL! well spotted btw he probably stuck with mc ph sm amcg and sn in midfield with the one up front. Never going to work obviously :)

There is one candidate who earned his managerial stripes in Germany. He has CL experience, UEFA cup experience. Has managed Internationally. Has a knowledge of the Scottish / British game. Has worked under small budgets whilst winning a Manager of the Year title, reportedly unhappy that the club are not matching his ambitions and would require small compensation.

Step forward Cszaba Laszlo

:-D

Dino
If it's between you and McGhee your getting my vote.

FatherTim

we may not lose Donati. After all, he has said that he'd stay if the manager left. Mixed blessing? Double Whammy?

I would not profess to remotely know who our next manager will be ,as I don't have the knowledge and nobody in authority at CP is going to ask me my opinion.
I know who it shouldn't be......and that's anyone not up to the job. ( You know who you are).My main concern , however, is that whoever it is , will have been chosen by our relevant Board members, and as I've no faith in their judgement whatsoever......
God only knows where we go from here. Interesting times ahead..

Hi there I'm a long time lurker and an oft-times staunch Strachan defender. Over the past few days I've been thinking about what needs done. Any new manager does not have a lot of time to reorganise the team in time for CL qualifying. We need to consider what the team needs before we consider who can accomplish this:

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In my opinion we should cash in on:

Boruc: He is an outstanding goalkeeper-- and I'm sure has earned us quite few points each year with match-saving performances. However the lad Zaluska is solid and I think his wages would be better spent on strikers that would win still more points.

Nakamura: I love him but his time is up. He has gathered precious few points this season and his corners seem now to unerringly hit the first defender.

Hartley: I really like Paul-- and he used to score loads of goals from midfield (for Hearts I mean)- which we sorely lack. At the moment though he is a solid useful presence in midfield but not a match winner. His role will be filled by Barry Robson if fully fit.

Naylor: At times this season he has looked a bit happier. Yet I doubt he will stay. So we will need a left-back or maybe 2 FFS.

JVOH: He just hasn't been a threat much this season. he has scored some crucial goals but I do not think justifies his wages. He is not helped by refs blowing fouls against him for every 50/50.

Donati: A forlorn figure who though technically gifted doesn't seem capable of adapting to teams that press for 90 minutes.

Killen: Sorry Chris but you probably need a different challenge.

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Then there are must keep players:

McDonald: I have faith that this guy despite sticky patches now and then will always recover to score goals-- at any level.

McGeady: With the right team and tactics can be the most effective player in Scotland. He needs another creative presence in midfield and a full-back to overlap.

Robson: I admire Robson and think we suffered badly through his injury this year. Hopefully he will be bossing next year and cracking a few shots.

Brown: Very talented hard and competitive but really needs help in midfield.

Hinkel: Andreas really started sticky but has began to look like a much needed threat going forward.

Caldwell: He is under-appreciated and would cost a fortune to replace with a similar skilled foreign player.

Loovens: For me at this time he is preferable to McManus as he is tough and rarely makes errors.

Crosas: I would like to see him from the start next year. Strachan didnt want to play him in high pressure matches. Sadly from December on just about everything was a high pressure match.

Then there are the enigma:

Shaun Maloney: After a couple of good games he has looked lost. Is he going to regain his form?

Samaras: from time to time he looks like the best player we have- strong, direct, skillful-- and then next match he looks like he has never played before. Can a new manager get the real Samaras to every game (i.e. the Greek International striker).

I think we should keep these guys for now and cross our fingers.
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I would not expect us to get a whole lot of money in selling fees (except Boruc) but would hope to free wages considerably. With that I would hope to see bought

Left-back: First choice and perhaps a back up too (cripes)!

Midfield: We badly need a mobile defensive shield (Brown shouldn't be asked to do this) and someone who will compensate for the loss of Nakamura contributing goals and assists.

Strikers: We need a bit of power, pace and experience here.

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So.. thats a lot of changes needed in my opinion. As for managers I think we have to be realistic.

Coyle:I do not expect Coyle to leave the side he just got promoted to the EPL.

Davie Moyes: is a brilliant manager but he is respected and loved where he is has a bigger budget and probably a bigger wage than we can reach-- and lets be honest probably does not need the grief. Surely he is waiting for Alex Ferguson to retire.

Tony Mowbray I am not sure about-- on the one hand WBA gained promotion from a tough athletic (agricultural!) league playing fast attractive possession football-- on the other they went straight back down playing the same way with precious few points or goals. I'm not sure he has ever been a whizz in the transfer market though he has certainly got the most out of average players and he has no European experience.

Mark McGhee: is a decent manager but seems like Strachan mark II. You would expect him to play exactly the same way and expect teams to exploit us exactly the same way-- again no Euro experience and no experience buying better players.

Roy Keane: Eh? Could be inspired choice but more likely an expensive disaster. I do not want to go down the Newcastle United route of football management.

--I should just stop there as i have absolutely no idea who should manage Celtic. With the Euro games so close i am really flummoxed. It could be we simply do not have time to change the manager and team drastically before. In which case given our form I worry about our chances.

I'd like to declare my intrest in the job. 193rd out of 203 but definately 'celtic minded'

hI pAUL67 et al,

ANNAOAN

Yet another insigtful post. I really enjoy reading your comments and that also goes for a lot of the other posters on here too. Personally I think Coppell would be great for us but fear that he wouldn't please a lot of fans who would rather a "bigger" name at the helm.

PAUL67 do you have any thoughts about ours mid/ long term transfer budget?

Hail Hail

Rouge,

I reckon Janko is on the agenda. How far is France from Germany?

First time poster (a longtime lurker!). The Davie Moyes interview can be found here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tv_and_radio/inside_sport/8058346.stm. In it he says he regarded Celtic as the biggest club anywhere and when offered the chance to go on loan to Arsenal, saw it as a step down! I think that sounds Celtic-minded enough! What else has he got? He's passionate, articulate, commands respect from everyone within the game and he knows what the club is about. In short he would do for Celtic what MON did and give the support a manager we could all be proud of. This is not meant as an anti-Strachan comment, but the divisiveness of his tenure is very much apparent on here.
Despite this, I can't see him leaving the bright lights of the Premier League at this stage. To my mind Coyle is very similar to Moyes. His players love him and he seems to have an infectious enthusiasm and commitment to the job. His passion for Celtic is also not in question.

To give my tuppence on the WGS debate, I think it can be distilled into those who believed he cared enough and those who believe he didn't. To be 'Celtic-minded' an obvious degree of passion and emotion is required and not whether you were an altar boy as someone suggested earlier. TB and MON had that passion in abundance and it united the support instantly. After painful defeats, Strachan's pithy comments to the media worked against him in some people's eyes because it did not demonstrate the right amount of emotional rapport with the fans. Put simply, the fans wanted to see him hurting as much as we were after Clyde, Artmedia, Rangers, St Mirren, Aalborg etc.

Having said that, he demonstrated an admirable dignity after TB's death and proved beyond doubt in those few days what a great human being he is. For this and much more he deserves our thanks and best wishes.

Tombhoy

dino, congrats on a great bit of male picking.

you have an eye.

ill have to get a new method for next year. too many didnt turn up for me.

if i could have got a hold of some of them, that would have helped, along with my password and username.

lesson to be learned,

show some desire, (owen coyle would do for me)

fearso81, I'm afraid that I am TopOfTheList, and not a congratulatory word proffered!

RogueLeader
..and he'd be cheap. Look after the pennies and the pounds take care of themself.
Hitzfeld is still the one that excites me and possibly Bilic.
Moyes would be a good shout , can't see us matching his 80k per week or whatever he's on though.

PjDali. Why is every penny a prisoner? We have no debt we will lose several large salaries soon Bobo,Donatti,JVOH.Hartley,Killen,Naka.We have players who can raise cash in the transfer market THG,S.Brown,McGeadie,certainly could bring in around 15 million.You are falling into the old sob story of our board that we cant compete financialy.Money is available at Celtic Park the question is do the board have the will to spend it?I for one do not buy the no money to compete story if you go out side of England where everything is quoted in silly Money terms to say, France,Sweden,Denmark,Greece,Holland,Belgium etc.etc.Prices for players and salaries are much more sensible.Thats why in my opinion a manager such as Gerrard Houlier is the type of guy I would go for.May your day be Blessed.

as an aside, how on earth can we pick up players if we dont have a manager.

would anyone sign a contract if you didnt know who your boss is. ?????

isnt this whats been happening all along........ who buys our players. ???

SSN reporting David O'Leary in the frame, who next Stuart Baxter?

For the Celtic Minded amongst us, take a peek at the Wiki entry for Slaven Bilic.

For the rest of us, an awesome start to his football management career at international level no less.

Played 27, Won 19, Lost 3

Still saying Pellgrini, Rijkaard, Moyes or the Bhoy Bilic

TBB

tombhoy

"After painful defeats, Strachan's pithy comments to the media worked against him in some people's eyes because it did not demonstrate the right amount of emotional rapport with the fans."

I always admired his laconic attitude to victory and defeat-- and after all those were only battles. This is the first time he lost the war.

BigChips

Gordon took the podium away with him.

Father Tim

The reason I suggested that was purely that I don't see the club embarking on a spending spree and incurring much debt (if any).........hence every penny we spend we gotta get value for money.

Dermot Desmond's own comments on the back of WGS leaving clearly indicated the balance sheet pleased him greatly......so it must be a priority.

Tim Bucktwo

Do you think the board made the right choice in appointing the last 2 managers?
?
Why do you have so little faith in them making the right decision this time?

fearso81 - "SSN reporting David O'Leary in the frame"

Hells teeth....I would rather have Dermot O'Leary

or Cszaba Laszlo

By fearso81 on May 26, 2009 2:26 PM

well done huge effort i imagine? seriously it was a good bit of fun and myself and burton had a bit of craic over the season + fraser mcinnes earlier in the season.

Roll on next year i have a good feeling no matter who takes over we will see a reaction and with the superior players we have i expect to have the league tied up by end of march!

A bit of a curve ball but what about the old boot room philosophy of some of the bigger clubs down south? why not paul mcstay? he has had a cracking run with the reserves. Also if you are looking for an ex player with euro experience who has managed on a budget what about mr P Lambert? see i even put the Mr there t accord him with the respect he would command as a euro cup winner as well as a celtic stalwart for a the years he was with us

All,

I honestly believe that Tony Mowbray would be the best choice for next Celtic manager. He would bring back good entertaining attacking football and that would be enough to beat the huns at castle greyskull to the next title.

Oh....and Father Tim

may your day be doubly blessed.

Dino
I seemed to pick every single player who would go on to pick up a long term injury. There wont be many EPL players want in my team next year.

Or Michael O'Leary!! The no frills football team...

fearso81 - "SSN reporting David O'Leary in the frame"

& callers to BBC's Off the Ball are also reporting Tommy Ring in the frame ...

Cut oot the middle man and ask the media who they want. Save them the time and energy of turning our support against someone who doesn’t bow and scrape to them. Not that it took them too long with Gordon.

By fan-a-tic on May 26, 2009 2:24 PM

cheers i think i will need a bit more of a petition than just myself and you but if all i am up against is mcgee then i may just have a chance! i wonder could we get paul to do campaign manager? i'd really have a shot then as he can make anything sound possible he nearly even had me believing we could win the league this year lol

I've read many comments on here from people saying they disliked/hated/etc Gordon, I've heard many people say it on the phone-ins (most of those guys are press poodles though) and I've heard it at many games from many people with many disgusting wordings.

People certainly were offended that he wasn't Celtic Minded but once again, not anywhere near a majority, just a minority of fools.

To deny and close your eyes to this after witnessing it for four years is just as bad as being one of the minority of fools, if you weren't indeed a part of that minority from the outset.

The vast majority of Celtic fans were delighted with the successes but wanted an improvement on the waning performances. The vast majority would have been happy for Gordon to stay if the football had picked up this year. It didn't and with Sunday's result, it was then the opinion of the vast majority that he should leave. Entirely acceptable.

The vast majority didn't force him out or want him out from day one. The vast majority acted as Celtic fans do, supported the team and the manager. When things were clearly not progressing, the fans rightfully wanted a change, for the correct reasons. This can not be constituted as a hate mob.

As several posters have already expressed: A hate mob is what you would class as the heinous thugs who murdered an innocent man in Coleraine.

Jonathan88

By fearso81 on May 26, 2009 2:41 PM

not a good strategy buddy but one the wgs seemed to be following also??? you are not wgs incognito are you????

GetBackToCelticStyle

He lost 40 times (that's once in every two games there) when managing Hibs. That's in our league not EPL !

I hope we are aiming higher.......

Big Wavy

Battered Bunnet - my reservations on Slaven Billic are that he's never managed at a club level or within budgets really. He must have £50m+ worth of talent in the Croatian squad at his disposal which makes it a lot easier to do your job and increase your profile.
I can't say I'd like him to cut his teeth at domestic level with us - we can't afford another season of not winning the league in my opinion (CL revenue), although any management appointment is a gamble I grant you.
That said, I do like the way he plays the game and he certainly comes across well in any interviews I've read.

I think job No.1 for any incoming manager would be to remove the captaincy from Mr McManus.

Dino

Think you'll find it's been Willie McStay doing good things with the reserve team

John Hartson's comments may have been taken out of context. remember this is the scottish media were talking about.....

Didn't O'Leary once speak at the Tory arty conference?

I'd imagine that would push some in the support over the edge...

maleys bhoy:
First of all: Did the current relevant Board members appoint the last two managers?
Secondly: The Club is run as a Bank and not a Football Club as far as I'm concerned.Hence my concern for matters of a Football nature.
I have absolutely no concerns regarding our fiscal prudence.
Hope this answers your question.Hail Hail

By Jonathan88 on May 26, 2009 2:42 PM

well said

Ellbhoy, just my opinion.

pather tim, no chance of Keane.

oisin71, yes, I knew.

Bhoy Fett, who tipped them? I didn’t mention you or me either.

jscscno1, did Skovdal beat Ajax or draw away with Valencia etc?

Steinreignedsupreme, let’s wait and see.

jvoh67, no info.

celtic4orme, agree.

Chairbhoy, totally agree.

hoops1990, my gut feeling is no more reliable than yours but I would prefer a non-UK manager, or to be more specific, someone who is not limited to the UK market.

Antsman, yes, there seems to be some on here ready to condemn the new man, whoever he is, before he is even appointed.

Bhoy from the County, indeed. I hear excellent reports on him from Denmark.

TheLeftWinger, ha!

dziekanowskis_dazzlers, no info.

CanajunBhoy, yes, yes and yes.

PjDali, no info..... but, the risk of undermining the manager in the last week of the season is likely to have inhibited much activity. Secrets cannot be kept, but the one thing I do know, is that no one knows who the next manager will be, so little if anything was said outside a very select few before Sunday.

Gordon_J, no info.

RogueLeader, no info.

Parkheadcumsalford, good call.

Walter Neff, this Norwegian has travelled and won three titles!

Viewfaethewindae, aye.

Dino, never heard of him.

The private memoirs, no info.

Welcome tombhoy.

Dino
If i was wgs id have to be pretty thick skinned to still lurk on here after some of the stuff written on here over the past year or so.

betterthedevilyouknowcfc

The Battered Bunnet, just my luck!

Billy Connolly for manager. At least if we were unable to wi nanything he'd still have us rolling in the aisles, and the players sporting some entertaining & colourful hair- and beard-styles. And we'd get a whole new approach to taking the pith out of Rangers.

AppointTheBigYinCSC

PjDali. What your saying is if im reading you correctly is not that there is no money available but that the board choose not to spend it.If you are correct the dowsizing will continue we are likely to get Mowberry as our next manager the support will remain split seats will remain unsold Europe will continue to be a non starter in terms of competeing.Not a pretty picture and to make it worse Rangers will continue to challenge us.I think you should write to the board and tell them your hopes and dreams for Celtic let them know they can kid some of the supporters some of the time but they cant kid all of the supporters all of the time. May your day be Blessed.

I think we should be looking for an experienced coach and none of the ones mentioned would give me great confidence in winning the title back.

Tony Mowbray will have us playing great football, just relegated from the premiership playing great football though.

We should push the boat out and go for Giovanni Trapatonni, doing a wonderful job for ireland and would comman instant respect for the experience he has in the game. More importantly a winner.

There was a time before MON was appointed that I wanted DD to get David O'Leary who was in Peter Ridsdale's words the best young manager aroung at that time. Hopefully his association with that regime and the extravagant failure that led to Leeds's demise to League One status should be warning enough for Celtic. Worryingly though, Desmond seems to rate him and he wouldn't cost a penny. Would probably do a great job on the balance sheet!!

Paul67

I never realised the French league finishes this coming weekend, so if it is Geret we shouldn't expect any white smoke this week as Marsaille can still win it

For the next victim of the more irrational Celtic fan to denigrate and media to trash how about Lucescu of Shaktar??

To add to my comment, people were also deluded by the press into thinking Gordon was wrong to disrespect them.

Since when do we care about the press!!! We all know what they are. And they aren't US.

He treated them as they should be treated, like the scum they are.

These people write and report on us negatively time and time again and they incite anti-Catholic and anti-Irish hatred. They allow sumbags like Warren Feeney a voice and they encourage thousands to abuse teenagers such as McGeady and McCarthy. There's a lot more than that if you care to cast your mind back to some of the complaint campaigns that have been run through this very site against certain journalists, papers and tv stations.

Don't remember The Messiah being hated for hating the press. But he was Celtic Minded after all...

Some thoughts from afar …

I cringe …

I cringe every time I think of the JJPD Cup Final.

I cringe at Armedia; at Clyde; at "good team mates," at Virgo, at Du Wei, at me not understanding your tactics; about you never having a settled team, never mind a settled midfield.

I cringe at every substitution taking 10 minutes while clipboard Gary swung into action.

I cringe at pedestrian movement, at square passes, at our lack of pace and your blindness to it.

I cringe at your “inspirational” team selections and choice of team captain.

I cringe at a back 4 against a lone opposition striker - frequently.

I cringe at zonal marking.

I cringe at our left back.

I cringe at team selections in fear of Dunfermline, Hamilton, St. Mirren, ICT and Falkirk.

I cringe at players in fear of doing something spontaneous they haven’t been (over)coached to do by you.

I cringe at dropping 27 points since December to second-rate crap.

I cringe at “the worst Rangers team in 50 years” (quote Jim Craig) winning the SPL.

I have been exiled since 1993, but travelled 20,000km to be at the SC/LC/UEFA finals in 95, 97, 99, 00, 01, 02, 03, 05 and stopping the 10 in '98, to mention just some of the many, many trips I have made in the past 16 years.

Thank God I didn't waste my hard-earned on much travelling during the past 4 years of “entertainment.” The last one was the Villareal game in December.

I still have my season ticket (and have renewed it for next season) - since 1990 - and my shareholding - since 94. I watch every game, like many others, at ungodly hours on Ch67. Many times in the last 4 years I have wondered why.

In short, I have been a Celtic supporter at home and in exile for 47 years.

I love Celtic.

You never understood how much we love Celtic.

If you are a Celtic legend, I am the Wizard of Oz.

Legends are measured by quality, not quantity. 3 league titles, but at what cost?

When I woke this a.m. I had two text messages - "Strachan resigns." "Strachan gone."

Deo gratias.

By The Battered Bunnet on May 26, 2009 2:45 PM

ah! and the penny drops. That would make a hell of a lot more sense. I never took too much notice of it when reading the match reports. But still the bootroom philosophy could work with either Paul Lambert (he was with wycombe {semi final of league cup?} and colchester?) and John Collins (he did manage hibs to a first cupin ages?)

Sorry about the brackets it's just with getting the previous name wrong you have me doubting that these are the guys who i thought they were. If they are then they both have considerable experience in europe both have managed on a budget and both knowthe scottish game as well as celtic inside out.

OttoKaiser

Yip, all valid comments on Bilic, but you can't deny the success he's had with one of Europe's smaller nations. He could get the job solely for beating England home and away.

The structure at Celtic now is such that the manager manages the team, and the CEO the budget.

Agree though, the most risky of my 4 candidates, all of whom mind you have been evaluated against BlantyreKev's procedure.

stuff the celtic minded nonsense I keep reading on here, Id rather go with FOOTBALL MINDED. Get Bilic in ASAP!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8066968.stm

PacificPete,

Did you cringe more or less in the 90s ?

Did you cringe when Barnes took us down a road to near destruction ?

Did you cringe when we collapsed in the last 5 minutes on black sunday ?

Did you cringe when we left Europe by autumn every year ?

...or have you only developed a cringeworthy disposition since our last manager delivered us success after success at home and abroad.

And just like the wizard of Oz I suspect you are just a little man hiding away behind a curtain spouting nonsense. In my humble opinion of course...:)

Big Wavy

Did you have a team in the FPL Paul? if so where did you finish? thanks for the updates and the info over the past year btw.

I think i can speak for all on here when i say your articles and hosting of this forum give us endless hours of pleasure and you insights into the finances of both ours and other clubs have been most informative. so thanks for the efforts and hail hail lets look forward not backwards towards the rest of our G.O.D.

ps is there anyway of attaching a spell check tool to the comments box? this archaic way of writing is constantly showing up my literary demise since leaving school :)

McGhee making "come and get me" comments I see: "flattered to be lnked" etc.

Oh dear.

BBC saying Mowbray will cost us £1million in compensation.

jonathan88

His distain and treatment of the press was never a problem for most fans.

What was problematic was those snippets were all that connected us with the manager. He never tried too build a rapport with the faithful.

If he had addressed us more often gave us the benefit of his thoughts, perhaps through Celtic.net. Then like many fans I would not have felt a disconnect from the club.

Your last comment, surely you don't give this "Celtic minded" nonsense much credence?

If you read through this blog and others like it it’s obvious most are looking towards a foreign coach, I think that fact should tell you it’s a nonsense media hyped term.

What would the tabloid tittlers make of a 6'2" tatooed tim, with 4 languages and a law degree to hand? TeeHee

Sorry to see Gordon Strachan go after his fantastic 3 League Titles in a row, however it was the right time to go.

It's also taken the media glare off of the r@ngers title win, which is a little bonus too.

If we're waiting for the Cup Final at the weekend before announcing a new manager, I hope Yogi gets the result we all want in his last game in charge..........

Paul67 - "but the one thing I do know, is that no one knows who the next manager will be, so little if anything was said outside a very select few before Sunday"

Never a truer word spoken and it is still the case today. Nobody seems to have any reliable information going about not even a whisper, which as you know is unusual to say the least. A few, particularly the media, are very frustrated at this hence the rampant speculation.

Celtic are playing this one very close to their chests, we might just get something out of left field...we know how the SSM likes to bamboozle the media by pulling something they didn't know about out of the bunnet!

Get Simon Cowell

He can spot home grown talent

SC

Jonathan88
Well said ....scumbags sums them up perfectly.
Just as an extension.....due to circumstances beyond my contol, I now have to get my Celtic matches via BBC Radio Scotland, and if you thought the red-tops were bad.....check this Hun lot out!!
From Richard Gordon ( Aberdeen fan my ass) to David Begg ( total Hun)John Barnes ( son of Begg) Craig Paterson ('Nuff said ) Chic Young ( Sad git) and Billy Dodds ( used to be fair and reasonable...not now). The point about them is......
They are paid as a result of Licence payers like us , so shouldn't we have a say in their "behaviour"?. If so.....
Sack the Bazzas!!

Going Dutch?

Mmmmm.

Weird - been trying to log in from my hotel and from an internet cafe but kept rejecting me - now at the airport i can get through? Last time i tried to log in from a public terminal (HK airport) it banned me and said there was unsuitable content! What have I been missing?

Anyhoo, firstly in reference to the complaints and subsequent tsunami (sorry asia) on the guardian's site - i take issue with the presbyterian bit, but the rest of the article was pretty much bang on for me and I have read the author's other pieces on varying matters and i bepieve he's irish and that seems in certain quarters, that he is deemed of right mind.

I say this because Paul67 seems to be implying only somone of a celtic-mind would leave the middle echelons of the english leagues to come to the SPL - I have been on sites where guys who were the most vocal critics of WGS have ben suggesting, with all seriousness, that we should be courting Hiddink and Hitzfeld not Coyle and Levein. But they'd have those two if the othjers drop out.

Whit???!

Seriously, we complain on this site about the "old media" but nothing I have seen there has been incorrect. Some fans were agasinst Strachjan before a ball was kicked and sure there have been times we haven't playewd well, but until
given the rpessure, WGS had no option but to win, however it happened. It turns out even that wasn't enough. No wonder he bailed. Saw a quote from a Barca player re game tm - it doesn't matter how we win, as long as we win.

There endeth the lesson.

BlantyreKev 1.44 pm

Good points well made.

You got mail.

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Tombhoy

You have it - Michael O'Leary is the man!

Paul67 - Can you delete this post before Mr Desmond sees it? :>)

Nobody paid more than £500 a week. Players have to clear up litter and tidy stadium after match. Fans have to take passports to CP and pay £10 to bring anything into the ground.
£15 to know what your seat is before entry.
Match tickets of 2p plus £35 taxes to see League Cup game against Cowdenbeath.
Tickets for Barca home game starting at £400.
Home games played near Prestwick.

PeteTheBeat - you forgot about adding a coin slot to each seat so you have to put a £1 in to make the seat come down.

Jockybhoy

I have read the author's other pieces on varying matters and i bepieve he's irish and that seems in certain quarters, that he is deemed of right mind.

Yawn............

Pacific Pete

You've cringed that much you must at the back of your shell.

oh and we also know what Michael O'Leary and his underlings think about "idiot bloggers".

Paul67 beware :)

Rl

plus season ticket price increases for 'larger' people

Ellbhoy,

I completely agree, I know it wasn't a problem for most fans, I wasn't suggesting so.

I'm having a go at the minority who had very poor reasoning for hating Gordon. The press issue was one of the reasons banded about by them.

Not sure if you read my previous post, but the post you refer to was tied to that one and might be clearer if you read that one first.

Also in a couple of my previous posts I've stated that I don't want any of the candidates who are actually in the 'Celtic Minded' category. I definitely want a foreign coach, I mentioned Rijkaard, I also like what I've read about Solbaaken and I wouldn't say no to Van Basten or Billic.

My use of the Celtic Minded phrase was in mockery, it also links to the post previous. I was suggesting that the minority of fans hated Gordon because he hated the press, wasn't Celtic minded etc etc whereas Martin O'Neill could hate the press as much as he liked but wouldn't be derided by these same fans because he was of the Celtic Minded variety.

Jonathan88

RogueLeader
Watching some of the fare on view at Celtic park this season a coin slot for a vibrating seat might have helped keep fans awake.

i dont know a single fan who was "against wgs before a baw was kicked" i do know quite a few who changed their position aafter artmedia though
the celtic minded pish is a myth. it never was or has been the issue

IF Paul67 has ANY inside information on who Celtic are going after, then given Paul's integrity this would mean that we should automatically discount ALL of the names in his article i.e.

Davie Moyes
Martin O'Neill
Thomas Graveson :-)
Owen Coyle
Eric Gerets
Ståle Solbakken

Now, who does that leave? ...

Yours in Celtic,

Jim.

KeepTheFaithCSC

Father Tim from earlier.....work got in the way of a blog post!

My own opinions may be born from the lack of 1st team investment in recent transfer windows.....

I guess there's a difference in us spending monies we've accrued and saved against spending money and incurring debt (by using an available overdraft).

I guess only DD and PL will know just how much dosh the club will make available.......

Paul67 could maybe hazzard a guess at a likley transfer budget?

tonybananas

I tick the box as far as not having to pay compensation. I don't expect a phone call anytime soon

coyle is being hammered at the bookies fav everywhere now

Sorry to go against the thread but...

I think the first signing we should make is Brede Hangeland - Tall Commanding Center back at Fulham fc.... i see him being the perfect partner for Loovens or Heid and would scare the bejaaysus outa Boyd/ratboy/Ballerina !!!

Problem is i think after a very handy season down at Craven Cottage he would demand a hefty fee of around 4 - 5 million !!

I think its an INVESTMENT and a defender not seen around Paradise since Big Johann was playing for us...

Thats just my opinion however...

I know we're talking about managers but would anyone like to give me there opinions on what our first signing should be player wise, realistic and around the 5 mill mark - as that is what we should be spending i feel on at least one to two players in the close season!!

HAIL HAIL

tamrabam

well said on the Celtic M****d bit sick to the back teeth hearing the phrase and of his Irishness for that matter WTF

Jonathan88 on May 26, 2009 3:24 PM

My bad for picking your comment up wrongly.

Any of your choices would do me just fine.

Hail Hail!

TBB- yes please!

Pete, Rogue, Drog

It's an extra £6 if you want to skip the queues and get in before the game starts, plus of course a £4 credit/debit card handling fee.

Pather tim,

I see that the betting on celtic manager is currently "unavailable" on Paddy Power site!

yesterday Owen Coyle was 6/4 fav with TM 7/2.
About 1400hrs TM was Evens fav with OC out to 3/1.

Interestingly Curbishley was 33/1 last night in to 14s earlier!

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

By Dontbrattbackinanger on May 26, 2009 3:28 PM

MODERATOR!!!

paddy power have stop taking bets on the new manager

This is someone you'd love Ned Flanders to have a go at..

http://www.vecernji.hr/system/galleries/pics/080713/tattoo-1.jpg

Short arguement I'd think! :-D

/Bishop B

fan-a-tic - vibrating seats would probably get more women through the gates :)

West Brom no longer silent on the matter:

http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~1667323,00.html

RogueLeader

is it more expensive to pay in Euro's ? Also will there be any food or beveredges advertised available before half time ?

DBBBIA
If she promised to wear that kit match days on touchline then she get's my vote

TBB,

Think you forgot the addendum to your post

MODERATOR!!!........More please :-)

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Notoneofthepeepil, I think we are too late for Gerets.

Dino, no idea what the FPL is so probably not. Thanks for your kind support. No help with the spelling, sorry.

RogueLeader, yes, lots of names but zero information.

PeteTheBeat :-)

RogueLeader :-)

Jim the Tim, I would not even ask who was in the frame for this job as I’m sure I would not be told and it’s the kind of information that should not be passed around.

TBB

:-)

tamrabam

i dont know a single fan who was "against wgs before a baw was kicked" i do know quite a few who changed their position aafter artmedia though

Wow, they gave him a long time didn't they.

Mort

Ellbhoy,

No worries at all!

Hail Hail!

Take your Celtic Minded and shuv it up your jacksies. That phrase I am sure was coined by someone in the media in order to use it as a big stick to beat us with. Like the OF (uuuuchhhtoooo) it is a phrase I cannot stand hearing or seeing in black an white.

My only advice (for what it is worth) is that DD & PL must set their sights high before working their way down to SPL level type managers. If push came to shove I'd much rather steal Lazlo from the horrible hordish Cousins of William than have McGhee or Levein. First Celtic PLC must cast the net wide and bring in a manager who has the credentials to take Celtic on a step in Europe (I mean win home and away with a possibility of last 16 or last 8 or an extended run in the Europa).

Personally I have no idea who that man should be although I have heard and read mentioned a few good possibilities on here and elsewhwere.

However gets the job must be allowed the time to gel his side into a team and be allowed at least 2 seasons to do so. I expect it will not take 2 when I condsider what he will be up against but if my understanding that the Orcs are gash proves to be incorrect then our new man must be allowed the time to sort it.

In an ideal world I would love Alex Ferguson, Jose Marrinho, Arsen Venger, Guariola. Hey, I can but dream.

Geret, Hitzfield & Moyes would be the type of replacement that would get the fans back on board. That is the level we need to start at before working our way down.

I have a wee sneaky feeling though that the PLC already know who there man is and it is just a matter of crossing the I's and dotting the T's. I would love it though if they were dotting the I's and crossing the T's but I do not hink they have it in them to pull a rabbit out the hat. I recon we may get a mouse instead.

MWD awaits the white smoke .CSC

TBB- modern moderators is rubbish

token tim big mogga was fav everywhere today but in the past hour it has all changed must be heavy money on coyle

jonnybhoy,

hope that's you and Kev (with taggsy) getting more praccy in for 3rd July!

In saying that got a wee outing arranged for this Friday down at Mouse Valley assuming the ankle can stand it!
Will let you know how badly I play :-)

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

MWD: I think Jock Brown was the originator of that particular phrase- indeed, it might even have been the title of his book.

For me there are 3 wazs to go with the new manager but they all depend on Dermot Desmond's own preferences.

1. go European - get someone from the continent with a former Celtic PLayer as number 2 a la Jansen and Mcleod. This will possibly unearth new Euro talent and not cost the earth although some real money must be spent.

2. Go to England. Several choices exist but frankly other than Moyes, none has the best record with spending successes and European football (even Moyes has a rotten Euro record). These would be expensive appointments and if these candidates are English then they would come with the attitude of it's easy up there which would be all wrong to start with.

3. go Spl - we have seen what happens by signing players in this league, managers would be no better. McGhee and Levein are all wrong and their appointments are purely and simply the cheap option.

In terms of rebuilding the squad we need physicality back in the team. The huns will play their usual turgid kick and rush and to beat them you need to outmuscle as well as outplay. Something Martin O'Niell understood too well. Smith will stay now and that is a good thing because any REAL manager worth his salt will not play tippy- tappy go nowhere football aginast that lot. By all means we need talented players but we also need aggression because EVERy team we play week in week out has it and that was one reason why we failed last season. Crossed balls were bad for us for 4 years so get some big
noggins in there to heid the ba so we avoid anymore Mulgrew free kicks or Dundee UTD conrners.

The New man must see this pronto. Nice football is not what is required all the time in Scotland so Mowbray is out for me. Great to watch, wins nothing, his Hibs teams regularly lost to physical Hearts teams in derbys, not a good stat especially when you consider who the playing staff and manager are across the city.

put yourself in john hartsons shoes....

he is asked a question about his ex boss and probable personal friend....

...he is asked it with a microphone shoved under his nose along with some hacks notepad and biro...

he has to respond with no time to prepare his answer

which in all probability has been twisted for sensationalist purposes...

give him a break...his support of the club and the fans is beyond question

Keep ur Grubby Mits off Trappatoni !!! He's ours :)

Good shout but id hate to see him leave the Irish set up just now

8/13 coyle with paddy power from 3/1 today

wonder what the media would say if george burley walked out on scotland and was installed as celtic boss?just a thought.

I'm from Cork bhoy

Talking of managers hows Paul Doolin doing at Cork so far, not touting as Celtic manager obviously just wondering, I live in Drogheda.

danny_1888 - now that is something I would love to see...the obvious downside being Burley would be the manager.

Davy,

It was merely my childish attempt at an "in" joke !!

I can assure you we are not practising more than 4 times a week.

Your humble golf correspondent,

jonnybhoy.

Owen Coyle now favourite with all bookmakers, odds on with some (Paddy Power & Wm Hill). First time since books opened yesterday that there has been unanimity on a favourite

By Moonbeams wet dream on May 26, 2009 3:37 PM
Take your Celtic Minded and shuv it up your jacksies. That phrase I am sure was coined by someone in the media in order to use it as a big stick to beat us with

MWD, I'd love to agree with you fully on that point and it may well have been someone in the media who opened that Pandora's Box. However, there is a Celtic fans' website called celticminded.com, which unfortunately indicates that not all Celtic fans have your sense and can see that buying into such terminology can be damaging.

Owen Coyle in to 8/15 with Paddy Power now. Interesting....

jonnybhoy,

that should of course have read "hope that's you and Kev (with taggsy) NOT getting..etc.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

HandicapsSlashed CSC

pather tim - I would not give an iota's credence to bookies odds for the manager. They know as much as the rest of us about this one...that is hee haw!

WaitingForTheSSMsCurveballCSC

According to Ned Flanders it's....

.....Artur Jorge.

Nor would I go with the bookies odds, they simpley go with how much money being laid on an individual. More money lower the odds.

funny how burley was well regarded until the spat with boyd.

Mort @3-36pm
I am one who had serious doubts after Artemedia + Motherwell games.
It was unbelievable to me that a professional coach failed to spot what was obvious to opposition in both games that the area between left back and left central defender was huge and exploitable.
Most of those 9 goals came from that area.It's an area that has been problematic during his entire tenure.
I still wanted him to prove me wrong though.
Have always said he would have been a great GM as his vision for our club was excellent.
Having the vision is only one piece of the puzzle and his ability to transfer that on to field of play was found wanting.
If he had found the means to play the football he described we would not be debating his leaving and reasons for today.

danny_1888

good point mate

Burley was hung on to dry to save the face of an ORC

rogueleader fair enough but this has been a lot of money put on by punters maybe even family

TTT

It's a bit awkward trying to post in between shots but now that I'm hitting it 300 yards I get a bit longer to do so. See you later, need to go, I've got a tap in for an eagle........

danny_1888

he would get pelters for leaving his country in the lurch

unlike wattie cardigan who just had to take it

also note that Gordon 'god save the queen' smith has never chased rangers for the compensation due

Tamrabam/Mort/fan-a-tic,

I personally know several Celtic supporters who did not want WGS and were very unhappy with him BEFORE a ball was kicked in anger.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/celtic-specials/next-permanent-manager

even Desmond's betting firm has him favourite

Bill Leckie on TalpSport just now talking about the Celtic managers post.

/Bishop B

That bassa Leckie on TalkSport just now perpetuating the "Celtic fans hated WGS even though he won 3IAR".

"That's the level of fans you are dealing with here"!

Scumbag!

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Im_from_Cork_bhoy shun

hangeland would cost £15million

sorry shun

i would love him an aw

shud have signed him for £2.5million when we had the chance

he was OUTstanding against us as well for Copenhagen

Big Wavy

When I said disrespect in the last post I was referring to indirect disrespect by claiming we were playing good football when 60,000 others would disagree. Refusing to comment on major talking points.

Nobody expected him to give the media ammunition but the fans have a right to know what is going on (particularly now that we no longer train at barrowfield).Alienating the fans, the life-blood of the club, is not what a Celtic manager should do and that is how a lot of people felt.

Yes to David moyes but he is out of our reach money wise and his heart will now b set on Alex Fergusons job.
I would give the thumbs up to Mowbray aswell if he brings Peter Grant with him but 1million is a bit much for someone who has just been relegated.
But I think we should try and pursue Slavan Bilic he has the international experience and he is young exciting manger who plays attractive football. Bilic could have a couple classic players up his sleeve aswell much like what Dr Jo did with Lubo and Wim Jansen did with Henke. Also he is a practing catholic which would win over the fans instantly!
No to Mark McGhee he cannot get Motherwell into top six.
No to Craig Levin, doesnt play attractive football and has no european experience. Coyle is out of it aswell I feel.

People seem to suggest that because Burnley have been promoted, there's no chance Coyle will come. However, another way of looking at things, he could be on a hiding to nothing there. The EPL can be unforgiving at times (Derby, West Brom) and while I never thought Stoke or Hull would survive, they did spend some money (outspending Blackburn I believe), had big fan bases and decent resources. If he left Burnley now, he would be leaving as a hero, his stock higher than ever and no need to risk his reputation as Burnley get chewed up and spat out of the Premership.

However, join Celtic now, win a few trophies, progress in Europe (if he really is as good as people say he is), then he can go back to the Premiership later on with a club with more resources and ambition than Burnley. Thoughts?

gordon is gone so lets look forward to who ever is installed,lets hope that the board are sensible and provide the new man with what is required,this is were the real change has to be shown otherwise its gonna be more of the same.

why are people getting upset at "celticminded". What is wrong with that?

if you read any of the books of that name you will understand that it relates to people that love Celtic football club.

gordon was not Celticminded because he was not brought up to support them, never played for them and had no affiliation so (some would argue) never felt what it was like to think that way.

Don't jump on the media bandwagon and criticise what is a positive term.

People are afraid to upset those with their liberalism.

I am Celticminded - it doesnt mean i am a bigot.

Ok my suggestion, (titter ye not!)

This isn't Hitzfeld or even Leftfield (bdoooom cha),

how about..

Glenn Roeder and Peter Grant?!

Hat, Coat and brolly!

Leckie: "Celtic fans ALWAYS want a man with Celtic pedigree"

In saying that, he did say that we weren't happy because of the standard of football played by WGS - "stodgy".

We also weren't too happy with MON because his football wasn't always good, but we loved him because he won everything and took us to Seville.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

DBBIA

It's true. They is.

BTW Appreciated your comments this morning.

my concern on Coyle is his ability to attract quality players to Celtic. Same issue Strachan had.

Same would apply to Mowbray , O'leary, Macarthy etc

If any of these names or similar come to celtic - expect a youth policy and continued under investment.

Had the board bought fletcher in January i'm convinced we would have won the league - they need to deliver now1

Two Andy Goram

Also he is a practing catholic which would win over the fans instantly!

Well that wouldn't win over me nor the fact that Mowbray invented the Huddle or that Coyle is a die hard Celtic man or Levein hates the huns.

I completely agree with the rest of your post though

The SSM was on the same flight to London City as me last night. Don't know what for but he was in a hurry, that's for sure.

I think most of us would like Moyes but more realistically it'll be Mowbray.

The key is the balance: good football but positive results on the pitch - something that was beyond the Baggies in the Premiership.

Owen Coyle has doen a remarkeable job with Burnley with very limited resources & a small playing squad. Also, he performed a decent job at St. Johnstone.

BlantyreKev,

Eagle??? What is this eagle you talk about??? :-)

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Geebee, there is also the scenario like Billy Davies at Derby.
Over perform and scrape into EPL with a limited team. The inevitable struggle occurs and the star is soon on the wane and the axe falls. It also why some people dont rate mogga.

In some ways it probably benefitted Davie Moyes career that Preston were never promoted.

Not sure about Bilic....

They did well to qualify for the Euros but did have a load of talent and was against a very poor England side in complete disarray.

The were slightly disappointing in the finals and since England appointed a decent coach have since been put in their place. Add the fact there is no club experience and the fact he would demand a decent salary, I think this represents a massive gamble.

tangbhoy

The problem with Celtic Minded is that we as a support are being potrayed as only looking for 1 qaulity in our manager and that is his Celtic Mindedness and probably would be even better if he was Irish. This however is so far from the truth its unbelievable. I like you am completely Celtic Minded but if our manager and indeed players are its merely a bonus.

Token Tim
You are probably right but don;t think it was a huge amount.
I admit to being curious as hadn't seen anything at his previous clubs to suggest he was brilliant.
But my reservations where always based on his tactics and our playing system/style under him.
Stated often that we where tactically flawed and not the some of our parts.
To clarify for those who think my feeling against GS where because he is not Celtic mided i felt the way GS's supporter's do today when Wim Jansen left after our 1st title in 10 years.
I would choose a coach with tactical savvy over affection for our club everytime.

Malone19

Fair enough. My reading of that was that he did his talking behind closed doors and he showed an ability (whether you agreed or not) to be ruthless to certain players. Also, given his contempt for our so-called media I suspect he knew that anything he would say would be twisted negatively.

I never paid much attention to those aftermatch speeches but as our perfomances got worse I suspect they grew more currency in the eyes of our fans rightfully seeking answers. I seen a man besieged at that stage, let down by players and his own judgement calls and not an issue of treating us with disrespect. I guess it fed the frenzy of those who had made their mind up for him to leave rather than an objective look at the cause and affect of such actions.

Big Wavy

ItaliaBhoy

I think Billy McNeill first coined the phrase 'Celtic minded'. It was code to let the fans know that a new signing - Miller? - was a Celtic fan.

It was Bertie Auld on Celtic TV who first mooted GS as a potential successor for MON in the event of the latter's departure. Bertie was fulsome in his praise of Gordon but I think recently his admiration cooled in the light of the playing style.

Finally, my last plea to anyone in authority reading this - don't go anywhere near Tony Mowbray. A good man, yes. But what has he ever done to merit such a prestigious appointment?

two andy goram

The problem with Bilic is that he has no club management experience. I think international management is vastly different to club football with its daily involvement in coaching, scouting, man management etc. Also he is on a new contract with Croatia and was unwilling to break the last one to take the West Ham job, a team with which he has an affiliation(westham minded?)

"Also he is a practing catholic which would win over the fans instantly!"

The exclamation mark is really a smiley, right?

the reason martin is revered is because he got the ball rolling in europe for us again dumping to epl teams in seville season just added to that, but his team showed rangers and murray that no matter what his laptop poodles peddled we were not gonna be bullied on the pitch,you felt under martin that when the team took to the field against rangers most times we would win because of belief,under gordon we won 3 in a row but some how i was never as confident in beating them, its just how i felt.

Hello Bhoys

Forgive the late entry to this particular discussion, work etc...

Well I can honestly say a weight has been lifted from the shoulders, as many that know me will testify I was never a fan of carrot top, and never bought into the whole " best manager since Stien " thing

He inherited a superb team that were wholly dominant, and slowly but surely dragged us back into the pack, that is how I'll remember him I'm afraid

As for a successor, Mcghee being recomended by WGS is enough to rule him out, Coyle, Mowbary, Curbishley ( YOU MUST BE JOKING !!! ) are none of them of the caliber we require, if we want a Scottish manager with vision, talent and hunger then Craigy boy from the Arabs is the only credible option, but, like Paul I'm thinking a foriegn coach with a wealth of experience is the road to follow

The sad thing is, apart from the names that paul has mentioned, there is no-one obvious. Mr Desmond ( for he will have his way no matter what ) had better get this one right, another strachanesque appointment and he could be learning the same lesson as many before him, being the majority shareholder means nothing if the fans arent with you.

Whomever arrives has a massive task to complete, Boruc will go. Mark Brown will end up at Arbroath or similar, Naylor is history Donati, Hartley, Mcmanus, Venegoor, Samaras, Nakamura, and McDonald should all have played there last games for the hoops. Its going to take a manager of the highest standing to manage the clearout and buy and build a credible team in a little under 8 weeks.

The task is enormous amd to misquote big Jock, the Celtic job doesnt shrink to fit the inferior man, I fear it would be easier to elect a new pope than a new Celtic manager

Ming

TTT

it seems my luck ran out. :o(

MWD

paul,
any info on tony mowbry being appointed, my mate who is a manager in a willie hills has just called me and said they have been tipped off

Drog Dave

He's doing fantastic actually seen as Cork City are nearly at the wall, just about a kick away from administration - Top of the league and unbeaten in 12 i think ! We're getting crowds of close to 5000 aswell which is by far the best in the Eircome league!! Colin Healy is playing some very tidy stuff in midfield, shame about him at Celtic with career threatening leg breaks

Lennondinho

Ya i remember him playing well for them also, we deff should have made a bid. I think 15 u quoted tho, is a bit unrealistic in fairness. Id take 8 for brown and offer it straight to fulham for Hangleand???

It just begs the qustion, why arent we searching scandanavia for talent ??

Surely some of out better players over the years have started there careers there

Mjallby, Rieper and to a lesser extent Brattback

and some unknown lad with a strange haircut, Henrik sumthing or other?????

MWD,

Nah mate. It was my fault......I was there!

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Why hasnt Stuart Baxter been linked yet? He usually gets a mention everytime a job comes up in Scotland!

I have a feeling Solbakken is who we're after, it's way too left-field a name just to suddenly pop up in a CQN lead article!

As an aside, I'd like to see Davie Hay back at the club in some capacity, perhaps alongside DMcG as a youth coach.

Im from cork bhoy

Glad to hear it, I followed Drogheda Utd closely for the last 2 seasons but work has stopped me going this year. Thought Doolin was a good man though and was a big loss when he left, him and the entire sqaud that is.

ExiledBhoy

Which planet do you come from?

Gordon Strachan "Inherited a superb team that were wholly dominant, and slowly but surely dragged us back into the pack"

As I recall the football in 2005 was atrocious, Henke had gone to Barcelona and the rest of the Martin O'Neil team were dying on their feet, oh and by the way we lost the league to Rangers! Some memory you've got mate

RobinBhoy

Alex Mcliesh....... discuss

That the SSM flew to London is an interesting one. I imagine any prospective EPL manager would be met in London, big city, easy to hide from the cameras, a chance to keep a secret. The fact it was London and not Birmingham he flew to does not mean it will not b Mowbray. If it is Mowbray not only will I not renew my season book, I will not buy any shirts or other club merchandise, if he'd kept them up maybe. But Tony Pulis kept stoke up, Mowbray went down, and (black sunday aside) never really showed me he could fight or beat rangers although I will admit the Ivan Sproule notable exception.

We need a foreign gaffer. Desmond and the SSM do not I plead with you appoint Mowbray, McGee, Curbishly or the likes

Please not Tony Mowbray! He is simply not good enough.He didn't do all that well at Hibs nor at West Brom(they are one of the bigger teams in the Championship and should always be promotion candidates).

pather tim - it is more likely exactly what you said, punters, punters are dropping the odds. The football people have not got a scooby who the new manager will be. Believe me, not a whisper has gotten out yet, if they don't know the bookies sure don't either. I have also not seen any of the usual very accurate suspects coming on with who it is going to be. This is for the same reason Paul said. Only a very small handful know at the moment.

stebhoy - I completly agree with you and I said as much earlier. Coyle et al would not be capable of attracting a high calibre of player to Celtic. Recruitment is hard enough for us being in the SPL without making it even harder by having somebody with zero reputation trying to do the persuading.

As I said this is a big appointment.

We are Celtic. We should have a better manager than the ones being listed so far

MWD, Cadizzy, Martin47

I asked last night about 'Celtic minded' being coined by Jock Brown or Fergus McCann. I'm not 100 per cent but I think it came from one of the two of them at press conference when Brown was general manager under Fergus, ie it was used by the club to describe someone with a support or a sympathy for Celtic.

It has however since then been used as a cudgel to beat us with at times.

Hearing very disappointing word that Mowbray is a shoe-in.

STANDING UP

By big wavy on May 26, 2009 11:19 AM

Finally, a big well done to the bhoys and ghirls of the spirit of 67 csc in Kilburn who at the end of the game on sunday, despite their collective disappointment, delved deep into their pockets to contribute to the kano fund. I'll let hoopyathome come on and publicise the final figure but made me proud of what a special family we have in celtic and a great bunch of folk in that corner of north west london.

Hail hail

Big Wavy

Big Wavy & Bukowski: In reply to above post from previous thread.

Our supporters club decided that we would match the top bid for Big Wavy's ticket, which he put up for auction to aid the Helping Martin fund. That bid was £125.00 by Bukowski. Superb gesture by both you bhoys!! We also held a collection after the game and raised a further £136.00.

I will post a cheque to Pablo for £261.00. No paypal as they want to charge a fee. As someone posted earlier, 'every penny a prisoner'. In this case it makes perfect sense!

Big Wavy, you are a big hearted man and it's a pleasure to stand in the same bar as you and watch the Hoops. Bukowski, even though the day didn't pan out the way we all wanted, your generosity will help Martin in his fight for recovery. Respect to both of you.

Hoopyathome, now heading back into full lurking mode.

Hail Hail to all.

By Dontbrattbackinanger on May 26, 2009 11:44 AM

Celtic from its humble origins was intended to be an inclusive Club, regardless of race and religion. Once you start wondering whether someone is' Celtic minded' then you miss the whole point of Celtic.

TTT

Ah, never thought of it that way.

MWD :o)

geebee1978 on May 26, 2009 3:57 PM

That is exactly how I see it. Of course we could be way off the mark but I agree with your logic. Right now he is seen as the next best thing in management, he could consolidate that with us where as chances are Burnley will get badly burned in the EPL. IF he is the man we are after and we get the chance to make him an offer, can not see him turning it down.

Before 'boozegate' I would have been dead keen on George Burley based on the excellent job he was doing at Hearts who were top of the league when he walked away.

Drog Dave

Ya he seems to have his head screwd on dosent he.

Did u get over to Parkhead much this year?

Leabrannagh....

Exactly. If Coyle is canny, he will see this as a way out of what is basically a hiding to nothing at Burnley and a possible way to take his stock even higher as opposed to ending at another Championship club a la Davies...be it Burnley or someone else.

Inkybhoy, how are you? I hope the employment situation gets sorted soon.

As I said last post, please not Tony Mowbray. How "shoe in" is shoe in? Could it possibly be glass slipper/ugly sister type which fortunately won't fit?

Celt4life,

PL was in a hurry? How do you know?

Was he on a faster bit of the plane than you then?

tojo - perplexed

Stebhoy, Rogue Leader

Coyle not being able to attract a high calibre player, that's the reason he's no.1 choice, we're not in the market for that type of player. We're looking for a manager that can build a team within a very limited budget and utilise the 'development squad', not someone who needs to splash the cash to get a winning team. Sad but true.

I really now believe its between Mowbray, Mcghee or Coyle which just isn't good enough, however whoever it is will get my backing from the off as i'm disappointed now to admit WGS never did. We can all learn from previous mistakes.

Onwards to 1 in a row.

Robin, first of all I'm not your "mate"

Secondly, please demonstrate those players which Carrot top brought to the club that brought us the success, and before you begin, you can exclude the deals already done by the club on MON's instructions

Strachan was a mistake, he installed a credible youth and academy structure but couldnt hack it at the top level with the first team

I'm old enough to have watched Jinky and Dalglish, I recognise talent when I see it, I also recognise failure, I know which category I'd put Strachan in

Thanks for the reply Paul.

"By The Battered Bunnet on May 26, 2009 4:23 PM
By Dontbrattbackinanger on May 26, 2009 11:44 AM

Celtic from its humble origins was intended to be an inclusive Club, regardless of race and religion. Once you start wondering whether someone is' Celtic minded' then you miss the whole point of Celtic."

I agree but try telling that to folk in the Cotswolds (DBBIA knows what I mean).

Tim Bucktwo on May 26, 2009 3:07 PM

I have to disagree, would far rather listen to Radio Scotland than Clyde, Chick Young, Craig Patterson and Billy Dodds excluded. The rest are all reasonably neutral IMHO.

On Clyde even the so called Tims are over critical to$$ers.

Only managed over twice all last season unfortunately Motherwell at home at the beginning of the season and the Villarreal home game. Shifts at work just been a total pain not to mention tax levvys and increased prsi.

I travel on the Roy Milne CSC out of Alloa when I do get back though, was my CSC before we moved to Drogheda 3 years ago.

ExiledBhoy - would you have settled for three titles out of four and the last 16 of the Champions League when WGS was appointed?

Stevie Clark?

No reason to say so other than the flight to London and the fact that his name was mentioned from time to time before in despatches.

TLWIO

Maybees Peter Lawell was going to London coz its the centre of the universe and anyone can fly from anywhere in the world to London where theres a multitude of hotels that can be used to meet an individual or a group of individuals without making the front pages of the scottish sun or record.

Its at this time of year that Mr Lawells family never see hyde nor hair of him.

t'boo - sneaky Pete-ing

Clarke even.

gary67 - "not someone who needs to splash the cash to get a winning team"

Yeah but it isnt about attracting superstars. Even by your own admission our new policy will still require an attractive manager, especially if you want to compete for the cream of the youngsters. Mowbray, McGhee or Coyle are not good enough.

Think of our top target just now, Janko. He is still considering our offer. We know say, your manager will be Tony Mowbray. "Erm, no thanks then."

The board have the chance to show a bit of ambition. The managers are out there and available. I hope they get them.

Im from cork bhoy

and you, do you get over much ? There is actually a CSC that runs from here St Margarets CSC they will be putting on their end of season Celtic festival soon, its over 2 days in Duleek, been before its a good craic awrite. Info will probably be in More than 90mins fanzine which is printed in Drogheda.

Cadizzy,

Still industrial unrest, expensive legal action pending, no sign of swift resolution, grim biscuits all round.

I would not be very impressed if Mogga, nice fella that he is, is the next Celtic manager. Thanks for the Huddle, Tony, but I just don't think you're the right man for the job.

How much of a shoe-in? I'm in the same boat as everybody else, not privvy to the exact details, but TBH, I wouldn't be surprised if he does get the job.

Still hoping that a total surprise comes out of left-field on this.

Wim who?

STANDING UP

I remember watching an interview with Davie Hay on CTV,it sometimes gets repeated,at the end of the interview the wee guy asked him if he'd ever wanted to manage us again and he didnt exactly say no.

Could he do a job for us in modern day football?

tinhatcsc

Drog Dave

Im a smelly student so i didnt even get over once this term and it pains me to say it!! With no job opportunitys i doubt ill get any pre season fun in either, i was hoping to go to the Tommy Burns Tribute game(it being my 23rd birthday) but i cant even afford that, and its as cheap as chips really when u think of it. I made the Phil O Donnell game this time last year which i thought was a great occasion but alas no such luck this time round.

What can you do i suppose....

By RogueLeader on May 26, 2009 4:32 PM

The board have the chance to show a bit of ambition. The managers are out there and available. I hope they get them.

I'm with you but unfortunately the board are not. I was told before Strachan resigned they wanted Coyle because he can build a team on the cheap.

ExiledBhoy,

"carrot top"?????

Away an bile yir heid ya 5yr old balloon!

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Paul67

Would Frank Rijkaard be a possibility or even Claudio Ranieri ?

ExiledBhoy,

I too hope we don't get another manager in who guides us to 3iar and the latter stages of the Champions League.

Oh and I'm sure the CEO's checklist starts with; "No Carrot Tops".

(rules Moyes out and your suggestion of Alex McLeish then)

cta!

ifwegetanotherstrachanesqueappointmenti'llbehappycsc

Afternoon all,

Firstly I'd like to thank Gordon for some great memories and great times over the past 4 years. I've been hearing the anti-strachan rubbish pretty much from day one and I feel these people (you know who you are) decided as soon as the appointment was made they didn't like Gordon and even after 3 consecutive titles didn't have the ba**s to admit they were wrong. Even if Gordon would have delivered the European cup, these people still wouldn't have given him the time of day. Thanks Gordon, I hope you succeed in whatever you choose to do.

Secondly, I think we need to be aiming higher than Tony Mowbray or Mark McGhee. If we're talking about Mowbray, why don't we go for Tony Pulis or Phil Browne at least they succeeded in keeping their teams in the EPL, Tony Mowbray didn't but then again he is Celtic minded!! I would go for an expereinced European coach, who can attract players, ensure we qualify for this years Champions league and get our trophy back from that Mob

Lurgan 53 & Mort, Big Joe would be a good choice but then again he is a Rangers man through and through, how would the 'fans' like that??

Lastly, I'd like to give my sincere condolonces to the widow and children of Kevin McDaid, everything else pales into insignifigance when you think what this guys's family are going through, RIP.

Slan AFB.

Gary67 - "I was told before Strachan resigned they wanted Coyle because he can build a team on the cheap"

I hope you are wrong. I fear you are right.

Bradford Bhoy,

I would love to see Davie Hay back with a scouting remit. Did a great job previously in this role. As for bossing our bhoys. I dunno. Possibly.

MWD

I must admit I am very nervy over who will be the next manager and to be honest if you asked me to pick any manager in the world, I'm not sure who I would pick.

At least we are in a reasonably strong position and the other mob are easily catchable.

Interesting times, hopefully not like the Chinese curse.

Gary67....

True and thats why, although a big name appointment may be more "ambitious" it could also lead to disaster. The end of the market we'll be competing is very difficult. Martin O'Neill wasn't particularly good at it, Strachan was okay at it but how good would the likes of Eriksson, Klinsmann, Houllier or Ranieri be with just under £5m to build a team? Untried and probably unwilling.

People say the names linked may not show ambition but it's horses for courses. Unearthing the "New O'Neill" or the "New Moyes" maybe the safest way to go....

sorry that wasn't meant to be posted at 4.37pm,pressed the wrong button.

Im from cork bhoy

I know how you feel bud, both me and the wife are in full-time employment but Celtic Park is still a luxury that can only be afforded once or twice in a season for me, what with living in the most expensive country in the world (well thats how it feels at the min) Its expensive and I'm skint but still love it here dont get me wrong. Now if only I could convert all the Liverpool and Man Utd fans to Celtic...........

Gary67

Who told you?

I was told by a mate of mine that that was also the case and he heard from someone who knew someone who knew nobody apparently.

MWD waits only on white smoke .CSC

Stein

the question is pointless, I wouldnt have appointed Strachan...

Its interesting to see Steve Clarke's name get a mention, he's Celtic daft, I spent many a happpy night round at his parents place watching Celtic vids when we were kids at St Andrews in saltcoats. on a personal level I'd love to se it happen since he has been the guiding hand behind a number of succesful teams, but I just wonder if he is prepared to stp into the harsh light of being the Celtic manager

I'm afraid I regard Mowbary, Coyle and Mcghee in the same category as Strachan, not good enough

we need to think bigger and search further

Brian Kerr at 16/1 is that the wee git that managed the Republic and had a go at Celtic over Liam Miller? Is somebody having a laugh!!

oldtim67 -

"Tony Mowbray.....6/4.
Owen Coyle.......7/2.
Mark McGhee......6/1.
Craig Levein.....6/1.
Paul Lambert.....8/1.
Neil Lennon.....10/1.
David O'Leary...12/1.
Alan Curbishley.12/1.
Brian Kerr......16/1
Lubo Moravcik...16/1"

Maybe that wee list is a wake up call. Is this really where we are now fishing for staff? Or are the bookies just being lazy as they know hee haw like the rest of us as the list contains just about every "celtic minded" individual you could name.

No disrespect is intended to these guys, all honest pro's...but hells teeth...is this the best we have to look forward to?

That is the top 10...as somebody said earlier...there are more suspects than prospects!

MBCelt,

Shhhh.

MWD

Cheers,I half expected to be laughed out the place but I would love to see him back in a pro capacity too,possibly my favourite Celtic manager in my lifetime.

By oldtim67 on May 26, 2009 4:37 PM

where do those odds come from?

Coyle seems to be odds on with all betting firms now

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/celtic-specials/next-permanent-manager

Drog Dave

Ya, ive read about that b4 in the MT90M - and even tried to get a few of my Tim buddys to come along for the festival..

If i can remember correctly it has a 5 a side tourno and plenty of ceoil agus craic :)

How many people attended when u went the last time(rough estimate like)....id be very interested in going this year actually!

Glad you reminded me

ExiledBhoy - forget that question. I've just seen a couple of previous posts.

I realise now you are ‘exiled’ from reality. What a silly billy boy.

With such a parsimonious board and such expectant fans ...apart from a lower league manager or a celtic man(ex player /bhoyhood fan) ..would anybody really be interested in all the hassle

not a bad wage mind

Burnley'78 on May 26, 2009 9:19 AM
from last post the Burnley game was mental ..i got back home around the same time as you my da' was up waiting for me and going nuts -was not given permission to go to game supposed to be in my kip - snuck off to game and he made me do my milk rounds in the morning and then go to school -slept all thro' every class and during the breaks told tall tales of my acts of "glory" the previous day ,...

...my first ever pint in the Royal Scot bar 33p a pint at central station - wellied before train left platform 1 ... - we got in for nil quid because the crowd forced a gate and remember the dugs were terrified in no-man's land and forced onto the pitch -Leeds fans and others stirring it up and the mighty roar from 2 sides of the ground "youze are in the middle..youze are in the middle" I was glad i was not in the middle i can tell you

those were the days when fighting was part and parcel of the game- and quite scary for a 16yr old tho' not directly involved and even now sense that the whole thing kicked off due to poor police control- their glesga counterparts for all their many faults would have had all the loonies sorted out in jig time - the english bobbies seemed to be a bit bemused by it all and were getting whacked from all angles -sorry to say -but their attitude left a lot to be desired and they got what was coming to them as they were picking off wee boys with batons to the face for no reason - the big brothers uncles and dads just got stuck into them -it was bedlam.

The closest I have ever seen to that other than the '80 Hampden Riot was outside of Easter Road in '79 when about 800 hibs fans (pre-casual days ) all decked out in green and white scarves (just to confuse us ;-0) just launched into the celtic support at full-time - I remember a huge shout of "the hibees" and they just started punching everyone dunno how they knew the difference - they probably didn't worry about such things - that was a right ding dong lasted for about 30 mins before the cops had any control

I remember some nutters using darts at games in those days -recall standing behind my big pal who had a huge bonce -a sensible precaution -some will remember that and there was a foto of a guy in the sunday mail (back when I thought it was ok to buy that rag...) with 2 darts sticking out his head -"Double Top" was the front page headline (or it should have been ..)

shocking stuff and that was just the standard of fitba then -tho' all was forgiven when 10 men won 4-2 in '79

note: not advocating for or glorying in the violence back then - but it was all very real and -I remember watching wee kids getting hit with bottles flung by their own fans from the back of the terraces when a decision did not go our way (which was a lot more then than now)- dads racing up the terraces just lamping the first likely suspect by way of retribution -and more bother -it really was not for the faint-hearted - and anyone who thinks unrestricted access to booze in grounds is a great idea needs their head examined or forced to stand at the front of the terraces -or row 'A' nowadays- without one of the ubiquitous crash helmets the wee boys all wore at that time to protect them from brain damage

Don't remember anything about the Turf Moor game -the stadium was tiny and we were terrible when we got them back in glasgow and they put us out -that was the anglo-scottish cup and burnley had been out of the top flight for a few seasons then -and folk greet about us now hehehe

rankers had just won their 2nd treble in 3 years and we were as rank as it is ever likely to get -Kenny had been sold for 440k and Big Jock had been in a car crash and I think Danny had a serious illness ...GOR IT WERE 'ARD THEM DAYS

maybe it is memories like those that have us thinking that things maybe not so bad when we have 3 in a row and just miss a 4 by 3/8 of a bee's ba'

any white smoke yet?

I hear there is a manager available won 3 leagues in 4 seasons and 2 last 16 in CL --just become available -----just kiddin' guys relax :-)

M

Interesting that Neil Lennon is being quoted. It could well be argued that he had a part to play in the failure to win the league this year or serve up football worth watching.

Come to think of it the Pendogram removal van has still not turned up in Glasgow. Are Garry and Neil still employed? And if so, will that continue? I imagine any new manager will want his own diagram drawer at least.

Mort @ 12:42pm asks "Will you still be saying this if we play football the Tommy Burns way over the next 2-3 years but fail to recapture the league?"

I've already stated my preference in this respect. I'd have the TB team any day of the week. Titles or not - I enjoyed watching Celtic play.

Im from cork boy

I only managed the 1st year i was here and due to work only managed the Saturday night, Charlie & The Bhoys played that night and the place was mobbed, its held in a bar called O'Neills in Duleek (1 mile from Drogheda) Yes your right about the 5 a sides also amongst other family fun day stuff that would be on. Never went last year because we were away on summer holiday/got married but will definetley be going this year.

RogueLeader...."Are the bookies' being lazy?"

Not when they stand to lose lots of cash. Bookies aren't stupid and are not usually TOO far off with things like that. I'd be pretty sure our future manager is somewhere on that list. Let's hope they've got this one wrong and forgot to put Hodgson.

Slight tangent here, but the first line of the article "only one manager has left an FA Premier League club to take charge at another club in the league's 17 year history". If Martin O'Neill was the manager in question, didn't Steve Bruce also do it (Birmingham - Wigan a couple of years back)?

Just as those who believe that Starchan was a Celtic great, and whose opinions I respect, those of us who never rated him are entitled to that view too, the nature of the Celtic family is that it allows all opinions and favours none

we are deluding ourselves if we think we can attract another MON, his passion for the club, combined with the recognition that the time and conditions were right will not be repeated

We need to be looking for someone who is a proven winner, has demonstrated that they can cope with the intense pressure, and who can build a crap squad into winners very quickly

ergo Levein and Mcliesh are credible, however odd the latter might seem

the other names in the frame fall at either the hurdles of experience or achievement

Token Tim, a well named individual, I'll gladly boil my head, if you'll come and tell me face to face....

M

Drog Dave

''Now if only I could convert all the Liverpool and Man Utd fans to Celtic...........''

HAHAHA - - its so true tho isint it, this country is swamped/brainwashed by Andy Gray and Martin Tyler - admittedly sky could sell carpet to knackers but in all fairness, its like they cant make up their own minds or something.

An example was just last Sunday (Survival Sunday) , they built up this day as something like a box office prize fight held in Madison Square Garden - When in actuall fact Middlesboro were effectively down, Hull were gonna lose no matter what, Sunderland were bound to stay up and i felt not even involved. Newcastle didnt register a shot on target in the last 67 minits or something like that...Toothless upfront!!!!

I fell asleep during the Villa v Newcastle match!!

geebee1978 - there are 10 names on that list and I could not honestly pick one that I would want. None of them jump out of the page at me. A mixture of not enough experience right down to the downright absurd.

I don't know about you, but that scares the bejesus out of me....

Bhoyswillbebhoys on May 26, 2009 4:52 PM

Slight tangent here, but the first line of the article "only one manager has left an FA Premier League club to take charge at another club in the league's 17 year history". If Martin O'Neill was the manager in question, didn't Steve Bruce also do it (Birmingham - Wigan a couple of years back)?

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What about Harry Redknapp

SuperSutton

I agree 100% and have a funny feeling the Tommy Burns team of then would easily sweep aside our opponents in the here and now, in Scotland at least.

Regarding los galacticos - is it just me or are we slowly going radio gaga?

The lure of Champions League Football. Hmmm. Why would someone on £80,000 per week in the English Premiership want to come to the SPL, see his wages more than halved, be unable to recruit the calibre of player he was used to working with day in day out, and have to trudge up and down Scotia visiting backwaters such as Rugby Park and Pittodrie before the 'glamour' tie against the hoofing Huns?

A simple, sobering exercise: pick a manager you would like. Look at the team he's in charge of. Would a player from that team better their career financially and professionally by coming to Celtic? At the very least, would their wage remain unaffected? If the answer is a resounding no, cross that manager off your list. Have a cup of chamomile tea. Repeat.

Remember Darren Bent, Pavlyuchenko coming to Celtic? In tossing these ridiculous (a twice apt word in some cases) names about, all you are doing is setting yourself up for whinging disappointment. This is turning into the Kinder Surprise of fansites.

Whoever comes will hopefully get our full, not grudging, support. At least for the first 100 days, eh? How about it?

Apropos, someone on here quoted Jock Stein, saying 'The Celtic shirt doesn't shrink, unless you boil wash etc etc' and therefore we must discount Mowbray and Coyle. Wha? Having managed only Dunfermline and Hibs, on that basis, Stein would have ruled himself out of the job! Two cups of chamomile for you, my man!

I've heard that 31003 rates Tom Boyd for the job.

Paul 67

I like your thoughts on a new manager.

With the media it seems that those who you can think of in the first few minutes after the manager resigns become the definitive list. I hope the board takes time to assess the qualities required of the new manager first and then derives a short list.

Like many on here, whilst respectful of the achievements of Coyle, Mowbray, Leven and McGhee, i see no obvious outstanding candidate amongst those four. Whilst i am realistic enough to believe that David Moyes and those with big clubs in big leagues are outwith our grasp, I would like to see an experienced manager with some European experience and a record of achievement greater than the four mentioned.

Solbakken is an excellant candidate as to , and I may be in a minority of 1 here , Steve McLaren (ignoring the England debacle). Perhaps way way out in left field and only if he is fired Ramos the current Real Madrid manager more than likely to be fired after the weekend.

Anyway heres hoping the board put as much thought into it as you did.

Well spotted, the barber of samaras.

He's probably done it a couple of times?
West 'aaaam, Portsmouth, totting ham....

25/1 with the bookies before we get an exciting prospective boss - does not bode well.

Mon the board - surprise the bookies!

Sir Paul

Who wull we get?

Ah asked the Fair Alyss.. and she said.

" Ah know how ye kin find oot.

Who are the smartest guys you know?

Watch wit' they ur tellin ye.

And they ur tellin ye..

Minute by Minute.

Remember,

Ye should never fight the Ticker or the Public Opinion.

Kojo.

Rogue Leader..

We dont often agree, but you are spot on this time, I havent heard a name yet that even vaguely excites me....

Ming

Exiled Bhoy,

yet another cyber hard man eh?

Your derogatory comment was pathetic and something I expect from a child, hence my reply.
If I ever saw you/met you I would happily give you the same reply to that ridiculous comment.

If, however you are a child, then stop being so silly and start to grow up.

As to my nom-de blog, you are correct, hence my decision to use it. Why else would I choose it???

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

It’s time for the SSM to earn his money and sell Celtic to a top class manager.

Just for a moment imagine you are a successful football manager (not a Celtic Fan) and someone approaches you with 2 job offers

Offer 1

Salary £3m per yr
Destination – English premiership – the best league in the world
Transfer Budget circa £30M
Target for 1st season – don’t get relegated.
Long term target – don’t get relegated.

Offer 2
Salary £1m
Destination – SPL
Transfer Budget £7M-£10M
Target for 1st season – Qualify for Champions League, Win the SPL, win at least 1 domestic up, qualify for last 6 of champs league
Long term targets – see previous answer. (If these are not attained, you will be asked to leave)

Which offer would you take?

We don’t want the kind of guy who would choose option 1 (the easy option). We need a manager who will relish a challenge and has the driving ambition to realise our goals and take us to a higher level.

I don’t envy the SSM’s task here. But i will be 10% behind the new man

maleys bhoy on May 26, 2009 5:02 PM

We don’t want the kind of guy who would choose option 1 (the easy option). We need a manager who will relish a challenge and has the driving ambition to realise our goals and take us to a higher level.

I don’t envy the SSM’s task here. But i will be 10% behind the new man

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Nice to see the new guy will get your wholehearted support!

John Terry- Big game coming up at Old Trafford/Anfield/Highbury this week boss. How are we going to approach it?

Jose Mourinho- Don't ask me- ask Steve Clarke. He's the guiding hand round here.

Anybody know a good lazer treatment centre, I suppose I'd better get rid of the Strachan forever tatoo :o)

im from cork bhoy

I pay no heed to the english game or the rantings of the Liverpool and Man Utd fans at work who happen to detest england and everything english (except Liverpool & Man Utd obviously). They in turn are amazed that I dont ferventley follow the EPL. Me I'm a Celtic man and I go watch Drogheda Utd when I get time to give me my live footy fix. I'll leave the english game to the english and er....Irish hahahaha

When recently asked (hypothetically) about becoming Celtic manager, Oweny Coyle felt that his kids were too young to subject them to associated hassle. That said, being asked hypothetically and actually being offered your dream job are two entirely different things, so i'd be surprised if he could resist the offer.

He also loves a punt, so it may be significant that he's now odds on with all bookies! :-D

TBGATB

the barber of.....,
10% thats more than you gave the exmanager, good for you.

By Moonbeams wet dream on May 26, 2009 4:41 PM

Source of what i was told is from within CP

Maleys Bhoy,

There's nothing like giving the new manager your full support - and that's nothing like etc etc etc ;-)

canamalar on May 26, 2009 5:10 PM

the barber of.....,
10% thats more than you gave the exmanager, good for you.

Hey, it was maleys bhoy who offered to get behind the new guy 10%, not me.

I was 100% behind GS, I was the guy with the scream mask on.

Dearest Token..

Take a look at the club you claim to support and hand on heart tell me that its in a better state now, both domestically and on the world stage, than on the day Strachan arrived

If you can do that, I'll respect your opinion, whilst recognising you for what you are

I supported this team before you were born, I supported it during my days in Dundalk in the 80's, which incidentally was not a time and place for the meek and the mild, I supported it during the huns 9 in a row, through the High's of Seville and the lows of Bratislava

I'll be supporting it long after your gone

Right, here are the latest mad rumours circulating in Glasgow media as of 5pm this afternoon.

1. Dermott Desmond was golfing in Ireland at the weekend with some accountant types and asked 'What's happening then?"

DD replied 'It's a done deal. An English-based manager and if I gave you ten guesses, you'd wouldn't guess it..."

2. Glenn Hoddle and John Gorman as no 1 and 2. Hoddle 33/1 with the bookies.

Will update as I hear more.

STANDING UP...please note the views above are not endorsed by the poster, just letting you know what rumours he is hearing

the barber of....,
apologies, that was of course directed at maley's boy oops.

If it's a "Strachan" forever tattoo, it won't come off 0-)

The big guy at the back
ownie has personally said that to me,i have just spoke to 2 of his brothers and his father-in-law and none of them know anything,ownies phone is switched off so none of them can reach him, his father-in-law also told me ownie, kerry and the kids are away to florida on friday so any deal would need to be done pronto"

inkybhoy

love the rumours and by that I dont mean the candidates just love the rumours that start with he met he and she told she, these rumours are always never about the people we dont want so it keeps the dream alive, where exactly in Germany did that plane land ???

Cadizzy,
lazers are magic :o)

Kojo -well met. Now tell me whence comes this great Captain of whom you speak?

In this time of dread and fear amongst Men is there such a man, or is it more mere prattle and poesy, mere trickery and riddles?

I am but a humble old horse soldier, I keep my sword sharp and my words blunt.To me there is nothing nothing better than sitting in my great Hall at Edoras, singing of our mighty horses and the great Heroes who ride them.

Master Kojo the noise that keeps you awake at night is the Wolf as he runs through the fold.

The West March is burning.

Give me the name of the One who will stand at my side and cut down our foes like the scythe through the wheat.

Plea to the SSM
Please, please, please make it a special signing.
One that will make us all give it the BIG WOW !!!
One that will make us all PROUD at the same time !!!
One that will make the red tops take a huge double take !!!
One that will bring the league flag back to Paradise
One that will make top line decent players sign for the Hoops.

And make it QUICK !

Paul67,

I know u keeping u head down but has anyone mentioned Mark Hughes.

I think Sparky would love the chance.

Man City owners want a BIG worldwide known name to take over.

tojo

If anybody wants a wee cheer up

Boavista v Celtic on CTV right now.

MWD

If God forbid it is either Mowbray, McGhee, or even Coyle how long before we get even the anti-strachan (yes I was one) wishing the ginga ninga was still the Celtic manager :)

And will we be comparing Strachan v ? record ad nausium in 3 or 4 years time

Hartson to Sutton to Petrov to Larsson to Thompson.

If only we could see that type of player again.

MWD dreams and awaits white smoke .CSC

Poster on KDS saying SSM flew to Rome from London yesterday, suggesting a deal has been done as he's going to the CL final.

He also say's that he's been told it's someone well off the radar and that Owen Coyle, as of yesterday, hadn't been offered the job.

WMBT

Did you see my post yesterday about the Aberdeen position?

An Fear Beag on May 26, 2009@ 4:36 PM

Yet another tiresome post from one of the 'Sun shines of of Gordon's jacksie' brigade. You only missed out that his critics didn't like him because he wasn't 'Celtic minded'.

There are a lot of supporters on this site who congratulated him on his triumphs during his first three seasons at the club - myself among them. The first time I criticised Gordon on this site was after the draw with Motherwell at Fir Park in January. I wanted him out and someone else in with immediate effect. I clearly said at the time that we would not win this league with him in charge and that this was one of the most important titles to win because of the Champions League qualification and the resulting money for the winner. If we won then we could effectively finish Rangers as a force for years to come. Conceding the title would let them off the hook. For the majority of the supporters who wanted him out the lack of attractive, entertaining football in a majority of games was the reason we wanted change.

There have been some fans against him from day one but they are a very small number.

ExiledBhoy,

I wasn't making any comment whatsoever regarding the state of our Club (notice the "our" there?).
I was having a go at your derogatory comment.

When you act like an adult capable of debate without resorting to peurile jibes then I will more than happily engage you on where I believe our club is in relation to before WGS as manager and now.

However your final paragraph and end line show me you are no more than a silly playground bully.

So on that note, I would say it's been fun, but I would be lying.

I shall now scroll on.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

tattoos are forever, forever,forever...

shirleybasseyCSC

DrogDave

I haven't heard anything about Germany. The only fabrications I'm updating are one's I've heard directly third hand in the office.

STANDING UP

Hoopyathome on May 26, 2009 4:21 PM

Thank you for the kind words.

As a lurker of long-standing here since the out-set, I wanted to do something to try and help Kano; even if only a little. Therefore, I could think of no better way to "introduce" myself to the CQN Family.

Wonderful response, too, from The Spirit of 67 CSC in Kilburn!

Now all that's left is the chance for me to buy both you and BIG WAVY a few beers next season.

In terms of titles won it'll be a hard act to follow for the next man. It might only be then we appreciate gs.

If the process of identifying the new man started in Dec when Gordon advised the board of his intentions would Owen have been prominent on the radar or is it more likely we are well down a different road?

up_over_goal

I was the person who quoted Jock Stein. When Jock Stein took over in 1965, Celtic hadn't won domestic cup since 1957 League Cup win over Rangers (7-1) and a championship since 1954.

We have won 6 SPL Championships and 7 domestic in the last 9 years.

So no point stating that Jock would have counted himself out based on his own quote. Different times call for different standards.

Tony Mowbray, Mark McGhee and Owen Coyle (at present) are beneath the standard we should be looking at.

The Chief

Kojo,
You old trickster, as you know the smartest around are the rich and you never meet a poor bookie, so as Owen is their fav, they must right, right?

Exiledbhoy

"I supported this team before you were born"

"I'll be supporting it long after your gone"

Are you a vampire ?

:)

Big Wavy

How about Artur Jorge - what is he doing these days?

AskBonkersCSC

hope you are reading this Shug

King Theodon

Great imagery. Posts like yours and many others on here are why Paul67's Celtic Quick News is the number 1 football site on the Internet. I love it. It's not only ENTERTAINING unlike the football but it's also educational.

Paul

Come on tell us - who is it going to be?

We know the site was down yesterday because Peter Lawell was seeking your advice on the new appointment.

Cadizzy,
I thought it was quite funny too :o)

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friens.. King Theoden

Ah like yer style..

It shows me ye are no jist anither run o' the Mill, Miller.

Ah wid like tae gie ye the Name that ye Crave,
but, that widnae be Cricket..

An' Ah'm NO... sae Brave!

Kojo.
yer pal..who thinks ye ur SPECIAL.

Bambi

"Poster on KDS saying SSM flew to Rome from London yesterday, suggesting a deal has been done "

The pope ?

Is he celtic-minded ?

:)

Big Wavy

InkyBhoy
I'm pretty certain that Billy McNeill deployed the term, 'Celtic-minded' well in advance of the Fergus/Brown duumvirate. Billy coined the phrase in the context of a prospective signing who was also a Celtic supporter. There was nothing sinister in the phrase as used by our manager.

Bradford Bhoy
Davie Hay would be a much more exciting appointment with a far better pedigree than the majority being quoted now at the bookie's.

Up-over-goal
Jock Stein was a very successful coach and a much admired manager before he came to CP.

inkybhoy

someone posted last night and again this morning that the club manifest showed a flight booked for Germany, also a chaueffer was to be picking up David O'Leary at Glasgow airport on thursday was another good 1. Like I said I like the entertainment value of the rumours. Now someone saying PL flew from London to Rome. Its like a Dan Brown thriller...........well mibbe not but I enjoy the banter of it all the same.

Hail Hail

darren ferguson

Exiledbhoy:

You said

"Dearest Token..

Take a look at the club you claim to support and hand on heart tell me that its in a better state now, both domestically and on the world stage, than on the day Strachan arrived

If you can do that, I'll respect your opinion, whilst recognising you for what you are

I supported this team before you were born, I supported it during my days in Dundalk in the 80's, which incidentally was not a time and place for the meek and the mild, I supported it during the huns 9 in a row, through the High's of Seville and the lows of Bratislava

I'll be supporting it long after your gone"

FIRSTLY: I suspect I supported this team before you were born - it does not make me a better, more loyal or more knowledgeable supporter than you.

SECONDLY: while I believe MON is overall a significantly better manager than WGS, their achievements have striking similarities. Both reached a point where we thought rangers would not win another title for years - wrong! Both had historic achievements, MON's treble, WGS 3IAR; both ehhanced our European profile, Seville and 2 x last 16; both ran out of steam (or money) final year, with both leaving their successor a sizeable challenge.

THIRDLY: I know this is subjective but can't you debate, argue & discuss without being so mean spirited to others?

anyone fancy this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZZNzsRDfFg&feature=related

Big Wavy,

Like it big man but I'm not sure he'd take the pay cut ;0)

Maybe Spaletti is fed up at Roma and fancies a wee spell in Glasgow.

I like this "foreign manager" idea, it's got potential.

Anyone know what Artur Jorge is up to these days?

Hail Hail!
HB

HughKeevinsLoyalCSC

Inkybhoy

Someone from down in England but also of radar.

McLeish - now that would knock me off the radar.

Hmmmmmmmmm.

MWD doesn't want to start any rumours but... .CSC

Paul67,

OK - so he has travelled from Norway to Denmark and won titles. That's like one of us travelling from the Scottish mainland to Arran!

All joking aside, I can't think of a Norwegian coach who has successfully coached in the UK.

PS - I changed my name by deed poll this afternoon from "Walter Neff" to "Celtic Minded"

As I am now Celtic Minded I fully expect to confirmed as the new manager in the next few days.

Martin47

cheers.I agree,the thought of Davie Hay is far more exciting than the bookies faves.

If we are pursuing Janko (and there's enough noise amongst respected posters on other sites to suggest we are) and have put in a bid for McCarthy, does that suggest we have our man and it's now a timing issue this week ???

Ted Rogers 3-2-1 clues csc

Big Wavy

heard hoddle suggested thing on Alan Brazil's show this morning and received text from another "guid source" hehehe- this afteroon

my own view - bad karma or mebbes in glesga bad korma either way not recommended for those with sensitive dispositions

local press would devour him and where would he get all the dosh he needs to spend on players who canny play as well as him >>?

;-0)

Big Wavy

Ted Rogers 3-2-1 clues CSC hahaha now thats fuuny I like it the most undecipherable clues ever invented

agreed, tommy burns teams were sometimes great to watch

but not when being gubbed by raith rovers

not when struggling to beat airdrie

gimme strachans success and the handful of great displays per season any day

Apologies if this link has been posted. I have not been on since early lunchtime.
This is the link to the 7Perth TV feature on our Martin.
Right on 5 minutes, you will see the man mouth the words 'I just wanna go home'
If it doesn't bring a tear to your eyes, they are glass.

Kano On The Box Down Under

I would like to see Celtic go for someone like Gerald Houllier. Probably as much a fantasy as most of the names banded about.

Still, concerned this could end badly

inkybhoy
Your man has got to be noneother than-----Roy Hodgson!!!
Just the guy to steady the ship and bring some sanity to paradise.
But also dont be surprised if its atually Steve Coppell!
It will not be David O'Leary . If it is then its out the frying-pan into the fire!!

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. AViewfraetheWindae

Ye twigged...( Whit?.. is that no illegal?...ed)( No that kinda Twig!.. Och... furgettttttttabbboootit!)

Back tae Maverick.

Ye goat the Inference...

Howevahhhhhhh...

Remember.. ye dinna hear that frae me!

Ah wiz only quotin' the woids o'

Alyss le Fey.

Anywey...

Kojo.
yer pal.. who likes ye a loat.

Martin 47

I also first recall Big Billy using Celtic-minded and "having a feel for the club" but he also went on to say "whether or not they have any past association".

Clearly he meant what was the players personality, could he grasp what this club is about? Would the player understand the link the supporters had with the players and why. And finally how quickly could he assimilate with the entire Celtic family

Given the team mates Caesar had (wee Bertie, Ronnie S, Willie Wallace, The Great McGrain, KD etc.) the idea that Celtic-minded is anything other than I've described above or is IN ANY WAY religiously inferred are either ignorant or deliberately twisting things for their own ends

Hail to the Chief

So, because we are successful we shouldn't appoint someone