Mowbray free to talk at last

woooooooooo

yehhhhhhhhhhhhh

Derbyshirebhoy, in my reply to you yesterday I said that Channel 67 was run by Setanta, which, of course, is incorrect. Channel 67 is run by Celtic, it’s Celtic TV that is run by Setanta.

St. Michaels Bhoy, of course.

yehaaaaaaaaa

Welcome

Anthony Mark Mowbray

You have my full support to sell any of the current squad to help fund your transfer targets.

A Lee

Paul67....

From last thread:

I apologise in advance as I'm sure you'll be asked this loads but how accurate do you believe the reports to be of the £2m comp?

If true, why as I was under the impression we weren't entitled to and only had to pay off his contract subject to him quitting.

Lastly, if this is true, why did we baulk at the £2m quoted for Martinez?

Paul67

You'd mentioned a potential game plan previously involving TM resigning and then being hired by ourselves with us reimbursing him......at a reasonable sum. Why pay compensation when we needn't.

Did that plan go off the rails so we had no choice but to pay full whack for TM?

Just seems a whopping figure for a manager who's hardly in much demand outwih Celtic and WBA?

So why the hold up in agreeing to pay the compensation is it because mogga was 2nd choice ?

I'm sure that he will have money to spend on players but it never ceases to amaze me why we would refuse to spend while in a position to cement our superiority over Rangers and yet when we suffer the consequences we spend when a new manager comes in.
MON's team was not enhanced yet money was given to WGS, and the same thing last year and now we'll spend.
It frustrates me to no end

Welcome Mogga!!!!

geebee1978,

(From previous article)

You're correct to state that winning the SPL is always the primary objective for any Celtic manager.

But as well as the financial aspects of European football, we also need to maintain our position/ ranking. I haven't given up hope of the much discussed change of environment, which I think will eventually come at a European level. We need to make sure that we are in position to be involved in whatever might some to pass.

pleas please please play football the celtic way and a winning way hail hail

this appointment is as good as we could have expected,i think tony will be brave enoungh to give some of our youth a chance that gs didn,t.get behind him,and give him time to shape things his way....
my first post of the mowbary era,coorslad back on top....

Lastly, if this is true, why did we baulk at the £2m quoted for Martinez?

Celtic knew that Wigan wanted Martinez,and Marinez wants to go to Wigan and the EPL.

Paul,

Thank you very much, I think I'll wait a day or two before making my appeal though, as until the dust settles, it might get lost in the hubbub!

jamiebaby

you`re not asking for much :¬)

Posted on previous thread

pauloantony

Agreed that Hitfeld is a great manager but he has worked almost always in a German speaking and professional environment

We need someone who knows the ins and outs of scottish football

We are not blessed with the sums of money required to field a team of European class players - would Hitzfeld be capable of working with what we can recruit ?

We should have won the league last season - Rangers were playing to their potential far more than we did
( I know that Edward might disagree )

The huns will be weaker next season - though not as weak as they would have been had we won the league and denied them the money !

So we need someone who can get more out of what we have and be prepared to bring in what we need to beat the hun

WGS certainly identified what was required
" Bigger - stronger - faster "
Unfortunately he never actuall delivered these players

My one doubt about TM surrounds his willingness to be pragmatic and do what is required to win

It is all well and good sticking to your football principles but in Glasgow being second is nowhere

Welcome back Tony - now lets go and get the league back

I am so pleased that we Aussie Bhoys will be the first to see the new Celtic under the new manager.

I know. I am such a smug barsteward am I not?

Good luck Tony; I hope you're around for a long time because that will mean you have been a success.

The gap between dreamCeltic and realCeltic has been getting uncomfortably wide lately, as we have drifted aimlessly through 2009.

Time to close the gap Celtic.

Sir Paul

Working on the Presumption..

That..

Celtic,have never ever interviewed Tony, at any time, concerning
his Suitability, of becoming our Next Manager..

Then...

That tells me,that this so far unsuccessful quest, by Celtic, may possibly have still further to go.

The Result of any Interview with a Candidate for an Employment Situation, is heavily influenced by the Impression that the Interviewee makes on the Interviewer, in an actual face to face environment.

Therefore, that is why I am still of the mind to withhold my full acceptance that Tony the Tiger shall become our next Manager.

I was never a Presumptuous Chicken Counter,and I see no reason to become one,at this late stage in life.

Kojo.

Paul67 have we agreed 2 pay 2million comp i thought ya said we would not have too

absolutely gutted!

mediocrity!

a massive step backwards!

raging

Welcome Tony, but £2M ???? I can’t believe Peace’s line on the WBA website

"These are complex but important negotiations and we can assure our supporters that we continue to aim to get the right man for the job in the right way." Celtic Chairman John Reid

Until I know from a reliable source that Celtic just caved into all his demands I hold that Peace’s line is about his ego and hiding that
‘HE HAS JUST BLINKED’

Hail! Hail!
Trust the Board CSC

Lionroared67

I think the question should be
"Why did we baulk at £2million for Tony Mowbray when Wigan wanted that same sum for Martinez"

Welcome home Tony.
Sometimes it just feels right.

Ard mhor ort.
Beidh ar la an.

53

Kojo - I take yer point mate.

But we all know, it disnae work that way in football.

UEFA Under-21 Championship Fantasy Football

How about this competition to break up the summer boredom of no league football!!! Starts on Monday.

It should be interesting given that the only players anyone may have heard of play for England. However, there's also Italy, Germany, Spain, Finland, Serbia, Belarus and the hosts Sweden to choose from.

I've created a private league called CQN.

So, if you aren't already playing the game then you can register at

http://en.u21fantasy.uefa.com.

Once you have logged in and entered your team, click on the 'Leagues' link you can find at the top of the page. Now enter the code 2714-330 to join the private league.

Enjoy the game.

Michele

Why do we need someone who knows the scottish game so well?

Do A'deen or Hearts or even us terrify european sides when we play them? Did Laslo shudder with fear when he arrived or Wim Jansen at the prospect of playing football the SPl way?

Seems to me until we change our game plan and start thinking beyond the SPL crap football we've endured then we will forever be SPL fodder along with the rest of the teams.

Maybe we've chosen well or maybe we haven't but I'd love to have seen us stray off the predctable path that was always gonna lead us to Tony Mowbray...we're like a moth to a flame when it came to this managerial appt'

geebee1978, clearly we didn’t baulk at £2m for Martinez, who told you this?

No idea what the compensation was. I suggested the deal would be close to the value of Mowbray’s outstanding contract as Mowbray could be due to pay this in compensation, which would be circa £1.4m. If Mowbray was not prepared to resign Celtic would have to settle with West Brom, but....

I’d not believe everything reported at this stage, West Brom have gone public with their position so will not want to be seen as backing down.

PjDali, clearly Tony didn’t resign.

Kojo, I suspect you can start to count you hens now.

Celticeoin, see above on both points.

Good luck Tony Cant wait to see a Celtic team play the Celtic way
And maybe with a few good singings we could keep Pete Fae Ayr happy A for wee while.

jbj717.

Don't know how you can claim Rangers will be weaker next season. They may get rid of a few bench warmers but the nucleus of the side will stuill be there. Kevin Thompson will be basc - arguably their most important player. And the £10 million fron CL will at least allow them to stand still.

What matters most of course is how we react to losing the SPL but it does no harm whatsoever to keep an eye on them from afar. Talk of them being in the financial brown stuff, or in turmoil on the pitch is dangerous. We should always assume they will be stronger. Last season should have taught us that at least.

53

The Aphex Tim

good contribution mate

nice of you to join us

Lurgan

for Wigan read Swansea ...

Is Marc Janko type signing possible?

We need strikers!

Thats over an hour Mowbrays been in post and not a single signing.
I'd rip up my ST if it wasnt made of plastic.
Typical.I'm never going back .Never.

PF ayr.

Of course - Swansea. FFS!
Glad to see you're keeping up.

53

At last....Welcome home Mogga - great to have Peter the pointer back...I am looking forward to him directing tactics from the dug out!!!

Paul67 when will this busy summer begin...I hope PL is dusting down the cheque book!!!

Bazninja

According to my knowledge and news from Austrian press Marc Janko transfer to Celtic is possible. I hope Celtic will continue talks with the left back from Red Bull. It seems he is waiting for more news from Celtic.

For those of you who read my posts this morning regarding my local Tesco and our new manager...here is an update ....

"TimBucktwo's local Tesco is pleased to announce that we have been given permission to speak to the Manchester manager regarding the managerial vacancy at this Scottish store. Whilst compensation has been a factor , we confirm that both sides will now try to reach a compromise regarding this and will resolve this issue as soon as possible.
We are disturbed , however, to hear that some of our customers are unhappy about this appointment , as they think it is a backward step and that he is not good enough for the post, and we could have done better !!
Let me assure you that we tried very hard indeed to secure the services of only the top people , in what proved to be , ultimately. a very limited field.
Without naming names..some candidates were offered more money and resources to manage elsewhere , and politely refused.Others stated, quite frankly, that Scotland was a backwater and this would be a country they would not entertain, thank you very much.
Yes we can assure you that filling a store manager's vacancy is not an easy task with all the vagaries surrounding it.
Thank God we don't run a big football club!
So if we are successful with our appointment, please show your support by turning up and buying stuff and give the new man a chance.
End of Statement.

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Tom McLaughlin.

Your remark that " it doesn't work that way in Football", is possibly the correct way to view this matter..

Howevahhhhh...

I can only base my own belief, on how an assumed cut and dried result, can sometimes fall apart, during and after, that all important.. Tete a Tete confrontation, between both interested parties.

In having participated,myself, in many Interviews,in the capacity of the Interviewer, I can assure you, that there is nothing more important in the Selection Process, than a personal meeting with the job applicant.

Tony the Tiger, sure looks a Gold Plated Cinch to come out of this upcoming interview,as the New Celtic Manager.

But Still...........

Kojo.
yer pal...who likes ye a loat.

Kojo,

You're correct of course. Nothing is done until it's done. The issue with the backroom staff could be more craic.

And of course I pay attention to the "woids"

Agreed "in principle".

Eh?

53

Disappointment doesn't cover it, but we more or less knew last weekend that Tony Mowbray was the person the board deemed worthy of this job.

We could never be uanimous but I believe Celtic have underwhelmed the fans again, so it will be hard for Mowbray to succeed in a smiliar way to Gordon Strachan.

On the question of credentials I also believe Tony Mowbray is a very, very fortunate young man to have landed this job having did very little in football terms to deserve it. Maybe if the fans warm to him quickly, after he does some emergency major surgery to the sqaud, they won't be long in forgetting his awful losing relegation run in the EPL.

I hope so.

Paul,

It looks like we got our ghuy at last - Tony Mowbray bringing his team with him - will be good to see Peter Grant back!

Lots of work to do!!! To bring good attacking Fitba' back!

Good Luck to Tony et al a Champion appointment!

I don't know what sum we paid but I can't help feel we've just lost a massive chunk of our transfer budget.

I know sometimes you have to pay but there was managers out there who had higher pedigrees and wouldn't have cost the earth.

Lurgan53

Even the laptop loyal have reported that the huns will need to try to get down to a squad of 20 supplemented with young players

Injuries and suspensions ( OK injuries ) - will leave them down to the bone

Thompson will come back - but without wishing misfortune on even a hun - will he be the same player ?
Is this not his second bad injury ?

Weir will be another year older - so about 45 then !

They were a poor team last season - we should have taken them and did so in the LCF

Only WGS knows why he picked the team and formation for Ibrox

Even then two wins against Hibs and Hearts and we would have won the league

I am not underestimating them but neither should we build them up into something they are not !

Power and pace - Tony Power and Pace

We can destroy them !

I read somewhere (might even have been on this site) a few years ago that Tony Mowbray was only invited to interview with Hibs out of courtesy - they already had someone else earmarked for the job.

When the board met him though, they were blown away with his vision for the club and gave him the job there and then.

GetBackToCelticStyle (from last thread)

Neil Lennon was promised that he'd be kept on if he wanted the job, it was on the official site last week. Can't really see Mowbray having a problem with that, no reason they shouldn't both stay.

I think Peter Lawwell and the Board have played a blinder.

They have kept quiet while Peace has been more or less trying to desperately punt his manager for a large sum of money.

The media have been saying that Celtic have been undignified and unprofessional in the last week, while Peace has been using the Birmingham Mail on an almost daily basis shouting about how "Celtic have not came back to me" and "I am still waiting" etc. Hardly the words of a man who wants Celtic to go away and leave him and his manager alone, while Peter Lawwell and Celtic have said nothing.

I would put my mortgage on Peace having phoned Lawwell and said, "Ok let's talk." In other words Peace blinked first. I bet the final compensation figure is not what Peace wanted.

Well done Peter Lawwell and the board.

Hail Hail.

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Mr. Z.

Salutations, palomine!

The Left Back that you mention has been also mentioned as a Celtic Target, by my friend, collie.

I believe that he will be on a Bozoman, the Left back,of course, I mean... not collie.

I also believe, Celtic spoke to him, that is the Left Back, no the dug.. last January.

Interesting that you should bring this up.

Kojo.
yer Przyjaciel.. who thinks ye ur the best thing tae come oot o Poland since the Sausage.

cheers zbyszek!!

I posted earlier that a person I know was tipped off very early about mogga and went for it with a £2000 bet at 3to1 he was upset when it was reported about Owen Coyle and went back to his source to complain but was told it was still mogga.

I took it that mogga was 1st on the list after he told me this.

Does anyone think this is the case?

jbj717

power and pace is something we'd love to see in our side, but having spent a whopping £2mill (TBC) of our budget on a manager and who knows for the backroom staff do you think we'll have much left to spend on many players?

I really hope we do have some money stashed away to back TM cos the squad is devoid of real pace.....we've been about as incisive on the field as a Davie Weir lung bursting surge up the park....

St Michaels Bhoy - Good post. In the last couple of weeks, I have been impressed by how a few pros have voiced their admiration of Mowbray as a man manager, Steven Fletcher for one. That is always a sign of a good manager, when ex-employees wax lyrical about their time under his tutelage. When it is heard from several pros, it is even more encouraging.

So The Fat Lady has entered the Building?
She might even be about to walk on stage...
But that is all.

Dick Byrne
I Don't Know...? I posted a couple of her songs I think...
She playing here again next week....
Amazing Lady.
Nice distraction while waiting on The Fat Lady...

For the first time in two summers, I'm really looking forward to the new season.

I never wanted WGS out, he was a very successful Celtic manager after all, but I felt that he never allowed the team to express themselves.

Watching Celtic had become a really excruciating experience for me, and the enjoyment had been sucked out of watching matches.

One thing we can be sure of if Tony Mowbray is appointed, is that the team will play open, inventive football. We saw in flashes last season what the current crop are capable of producing, just think what it could be like if they are really let off the leash.

Mogga will get the best out of Scott Brown. I also think he'll play Paddy McCourt, having tried to sign him last summer. There should be no more Gary Caldwell-in-midfield-cos-they've-got-some-big-guys, and the opposition will be shown no more opposition than they deserve.

Getting quite excited already!

Tom McLaughlin:

Nae offence..but is it no' bed-time where you are?

Tom McLaughlin

'Gallowgate. Grow up.'

Tom, you've made my day with that comment. Makes me feel young again. Good man.

I see already we're talking about 1.4m com-pen. Not quite the 2 pence I predicted was on it's way. Then again, it's early days. We'll get there eventually. For the past 3 weeks there's been a lot of spinning. More on its way I'm afraid. If you can't see that then maybe....

Anyway, thanks for the compliment.

backtheteamCSC.

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Lurgan53.

I am glad that you, also, are a wee bit reticent tae indulge in a spot of "Chicken Coontin'"

There is a lot of that ..Going Aboot.

Best tae keep yer Powder in a Damp Proof Place.

Ye never know when all Hell wull break Loose... and ye wull need awe o' the Pooder that ye kin lay yer Hauns oan!

Nice chatting,pal.

Kojo.
yer pal.. who likes the wey ye think.

Kojo

So now Celtic can ‘officially’ talk to Tony?

Just suppose that all the talking has already taken place. Celtic could never have been accused of ‘tapping’ since they were always free to talk to him. The FA & SFA both confirmed that they had no interest in his contract with WBA as it was cross border and no agreement was in place. They could always talk to him with or without the permission of WBA.

Celtic were always going to go about things in ‘the right way’

Hail! Hail!
Just a formality CSC

no more *respect* than they deserve

I think I'm going to start watching the Celtic of the future - by nipping into my local club, Hibernian.

Compensation? For a manager of a club who won 8 out 38 league games? Don't slag off Jeremy Peace, that man knows what he's doing alright. He could show SSM a new cut of cloth

By bournesouprecipe on June 13, 2009 4:04 PM

So, it was ever thus. After all the angst and time some have a leader to follow. The brothers Grimm could not have written it and so to sleep and another day.

Hail Hail

With Peter Pointer et al back and Celtic going 80's penny pinching retro, fans should be paying pittance at the gate. I think anyone willing to pay 'Martin O'neill era' prices wothout questioning the value for money should have their head looked at.

St. Michaels Bhoy - You don't half talk a lot of sense. Wher have you been these last few weeks? :)

Tim Bucktwo - It's 1:30am and I am sitting having a few jars with my son. But yes, I reckon by 2am I will be ready for bed. Thanks for asking mate.

Gallowgate - Very well said and thanks for being so understanding. I salute you.

Malceye

Since it appears you were in the room or managed to tap into the phone call between Celtic and WBA, what was the exact figure we paid. Cause unlike you i dont believe everything i read on Sky or the papers.

Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;-)

PjDali

Why pay £2M for a manager and then not back your judgement in bringing him ?

I would imagine that in an interview BOTH sides have to be satisfified or one will walk away

Tony knows Scottish football - he knows what he needs to do things the way he wants

If the board are not prepared to back him I would hope that he would walk away !

Lets wait and see

But we need fresh impetus - a new manager get you a little of that but new faces on the park really drive you on !

People say ST are not selling

A couple of exciting signings - and by the way they do not have to be millions of pounds - but players who would get supporters enthused again - would do for me !

Lets go continental

the Dutch play 2 holding midfielders which allow their attackers freedom to do just that - attack !

Lets free Naka - McGeady and Brown from too much tracking back !

Sign two big powerful holding midfielders and a big powerful pacy front man like the guy Fortune TM had at WBA and get back to making teams fear playing us - instead of being so predictable and pedestrian

Bring it on !

celt for life

I make as much an assumption as you are by implying that there is no compensation payable.

However, 8 out of 38 is not a stat lifted from the papers.

Tom McLaughlin,

Thanks!

I'm a very infrequent poster here, and even then, I don't usually get much of a response :-(

To all the unhappy Celtic fans in the thread today? how valid are all your criticisms? main criticisms seem to be:

We have showed no ambition or imagination.

Biscuit tin mentality, not prepared to pay the money required for TOP talent.

It is a backward step, Mowbray is not the man to take the club forward, he hasnt won enough trophies.

In just short of three weeks the Celtic board have now it seems plumbed for Tony Mowbray, if, as it seems certain he will be the next manager, to criticise this appointment is easy without knowing all the facts of every candidate approached, an ill informed criticism IMO, but, what is the point of any criticisms at all, what i cant get my head around are the direct criticisms of Mowbray, before he has even signed a contract? seem to me to be unbelievable!! I am 51 yrs old, been lifelong Celtic supporter also been a player, semi professional, also a coach and manager, football isn't an exact science, there isn't a definitive formula for success!!! as for managers, quiet men succeed, bullies succeed, intelligent men succeed, no one knows for certain if Tony Mowbray will be a success or not, NO ONE FOR SURE 100%!! However, if he is going to succeed, he needs the support and loyalty of Celtic fans, supporting a new manager the CELTIC WAY.

Delighted, absolutely delighted, welcome aboard Tony and look out huns, your in for a pasting next season!

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. O'Rourke's a Tim @ 4.21.

Formality?

Perhaps,pal, ..Perhaps.

Howevahhhhhhhhhh..

If you did not notice,pal..

I must inform you that I had Prefaced my Discourse on this matter in making a "Presumption", on my part. ( @ 3.44.)

I stated this clearly, in my opening sentence.

And if I may be so bold..

That is exactly what you are also indulging in, as well.

Maks sense tae me.

Kojo.
yer pal..who likes ye.

St.Michaels Bhoy:

Here's anither wan then.. .....good post .
BTW you might not want some of the responses you could get!!
Hail hail

Kojo
Like always my big thank you for your kindness.

Our man from Austria has many advantages.
He is:
Free agent
Celtic don’t have to pay transfer fee
At least two other clubs are interested in him but Celtic is first option for him
Wants to play for Celtic Glasgow
He thinks that Celtic club is distinction for him
Speaks Hinkelish language and will be settled quickly in the team by our right back
He is very young
Not mannered yet
He is International Level player
Fits Mr. Pierre criteria
...mine too.

I hope to hear more news from Austria early next week.

Zbyszek, your friend who things that Collie was right.

Is it true that Celtic PLC are going to have a flashy Barrowlands style sign erected on the Gallowgate saying 'Mugs this way'?

NeverGiveASuckerAnEvenBreakCSC

Tom McLaughlin:
Enjoy your "tinnies" ....sleep well when it comes.
Hail hail

Well finally some positive movement, who caved who cares.
The important thing here is Celtic have got the man they wanted.
Coyle and Martinez IMO should have been secondary candidates surely they would have been for Celtic also. No disrespect to either manager but they are embryonic in terms of football management.

12 months ago Mowbray would have looked all ends up a winner, bringing WBA up as champions. If we had appointed him last term we all would have said he´s the next big thing in management. Plays exciting successful football, yes he relegated WBA from the EPL this season. So is he now all of a sudden a bad manager?

Coyle was the first name on many lips for the job, why is he considered by some as a better candidate? Promotion by finishing 5th no doubts a fine achievement but not on the same level as Mogga´s a year earlier. Unlike Mogga has not managed at EPL level time will tell if he´s up to it. The head says he´s a chance but not with Burnley he´s no chance. They will go straight back down next season, just like WBA this season and just like Mowbray through no fault of his own.

Martinez the next name uttered, again what has he got over Mogga? IMO nothing

At this stage like Coyle he´s on the up but just like rookie managers before him they can go straight back on the down just as quickly. Not saying he will just that he´s a huge gamble more so than Mowbray.

Any manager is a gamble just some less than others and in the three front runners that where banded around no doubt in my mind we´ve got the best possible chance with him than any of the other two.

Like many others was hoping for a galactico type appointment like a Rijkaard, Ranieri or a Trapatoni type. That kind of an appointment was obviously not on the agenda.

So Mowbray it is, heart on his sleeve, played through the pain and terrible personal tragedy for the Hoops.
In my eyes a quality person a once top player for Celtic, always a 100%er he will do for me.

Welcome Big Mogga.

Hail Hail!

Lionroared67.....it wouldn't matter who Celtic signed as the new manager, there will always be those who criticise/listen to the 'agenda' media etc!!!.....some people have their cups half empty ALL the time..............can't wait for the new season.....!!!!

As a wee side note was thinking perhaps the compensation package may include a player or players.

Will be interesting to see if any WBA players join up in the coming weeks and for what fee.

Paul67

Thanks for the clarification. I wondered whether Channel67 was dependant on the Setanta infrastucture (cameras etc) for SPL matches and how the coverage they provide might be affected if Setanta went into administration and there were no buyers willing to cover the SPL.

What I'm really looking forward to is Tony getting a hold of the current squad and givin them a flippin good shake, we have got a lot of good players and - apologies to all WGS fans - but he simply wasn't get the best out of any of them , not one of them, from the guys on the bench to the goalie to the forwards, all of them under performed, I'm certain TM will not put up with players swanning thru games as they were allowed to under WGS.

harry fathersham on June 13, 2009 4:26 PM

Don't know when the Celtic board ever played a blinder
maybe they are just blinder.

Not posted for a very long time, hope you are well Paul67

I'm not sure that BTM would have been my first choice but I genuinely believe that the board have probably got the best available to us.

We still have some good players, who should be revitalised with a new way of thinking, if they aren't then lets find out quickly.

He wants the job and knows what we want, that's invaluable

from yesterday: Lurgan53 - was it Woodhey?

Kojo 4:11

I don’t want to mix up left back, me and sausage in one post.
Sausage provenance is more complicated. These were Polish Jews who made sausage first. In Polish language sausage means kielbasa (pron. colbassa ). Word kielbasa comes from Hebrew “col bassar” and means “only meat” or “strictly meat”

I hope Peter Grant also comes north but cant see a place for lenny if venus comes as well

my preference would always be grant over lennon

So TM is the new manager?

DEF?

LOTPAM

St Michaels Bhoy - I know exactly how you feel. When I started posting here, I was ignored. Then I thought, why should I expect people to respond to my comments? It's like a club. If you go in as a newcomer, nobody will speak to you at first. Then when they get to know you, they will start making conversation, and before you know it, you are a member of the club.

Yet, like any club, there is always a clique; the ones who say, "I've been here a lot longer than you." It is universal. It is the only way they can feel important. CQN is no different to the rest of the world.

So I posted something a little bit cotroversial. I got a response. I didn't set out to post something contoversial. It just happened that my thoughts at the time were contoversial.

Even yesterday I was told by a veteran of CQN "When you have posted as long as I have . . . " etc.

I just signed off and went on to something more important.

You are welcome anyway mate. Hope to see more of your posts.

Hail Hail

zetabhoy,well said,was just thinkin the same.wonder what he will make of the bobo situatation?

he'll swap Bobo for Martis

Lionroared67

"Celtic board have now it seems plumbed for Tony Mowbray"

ha ha ha

Kojo

"Presumption". Of course! That's where the fun is.
Boredom is the enemy. That's why I must say ' onwards and upwards with Tony Mowbray'

Come on the 'Tic CSC

clnmckec67...........One thing about Peter Grant, he certainly knows what Celtic are all about......difficult one, between him and Lenny....!!!.....think TM will opt for PG...

LOTPAM:4:49

Can't say it's definite ...but...John Reid has made a statement , which suggests to me, that's the direction we're heading in.
Others, more sage and qualified than me,however, are still hedging their bets.
Hail hail

Tom McLaughlin

can you explain in that case why someone I know's critical comment about mowbray was deleted despite having no vulgar language?? That is almost Celtic style censorship.

Mowbray... Don't want him. Bring back WGS (and by the way I was Strachan's biggest critic, that is how disenfranchised I feel about "mogga."

Good. Welcome Tony. Now get to work, there's a shed load to be getting on with.

malceye,i think the board will still want bobo out..

I was going to leave this for a day or two, but as the blog doesn't seem overly busy considering today's news, here goes.

I have been quite perturbed by the reaction of many Celtic fans to losing the league this year. I'm not trying to come over all superior either, because I include myself in this (was unable to speak for about three days after a rant post-Hearts match).

It was my Dad who helped calm me down (well, a little bit), telling me, "Ye cannae win the league every year."

That got me thinking. Have we become spoiled by success in the 21st century? In my lifetime (I'm 38), we've won the league 17 times. My Dad's comment made me think. He was 21 when we won the European Cup, and in his lifetime to that point, Celtic had won the league just THREE times. By his 18th birthday, we'd won the league just ONCE.

With that in mind I've decided to do a bit of research, which I hope will become a book, on the generation of Celtic supporters born between 1935 and 1955. Those fans, too young to be aware of, or remember, the good times of the '30's, grew up in the most unsuccessful spell in the history of the club, when winning the league was no more than a pipe-dream.

I want to find out about what kept them coming back for more? We owe them a lot, because they are the people who by their continuing support ensured there would be a Celtic to pass on to us today.

I once read a book on Irish history which had a line I've never forgotten, because it seemed like it could so easily have been applied to Celtic fans (this was during their 9 in a row):

"Until the final great battle the Irish always lost. But every defeat only added to the growing legend of defiance."

I wonder if we still have that quality about us? The type of quality our forefathers had in spades.

As part of my research, I have prepared a questionaire, and I would really appreciate it if anyone reading this, born between 1935 and 1955, would be prepared to take some time to answer it.

If anyone is interested, you can email me at stmichaelsbhoy@yahoo.com

Thanks to Paul for allowing me to post this.

Twelth man posted>

Is it true that Celtic PLC are going to have a flashy Barrowlands style sign erected on the Gallowgate saying 'Mugs this way'?

NeverGiveASuckerAnEvenBreakCSC

It is indeed shocking that Celtic are the only club in world football who have greedy shareholders and directors, Celtic the only club who sell expensive merchandising made in sweatshops, the only club in world football with expensive match tickets to pay players exorbitant salaries, i mean you don't see that happening anywhere else ? Mugs this way, yeah at 99% of the main avenues to the top clubs in world football!!

Just thinking...
The Lurkers from FF and other tawdry web sites, must be having a field day.
Hail hail
GieitarestCSC

hoops1990........do you ever feel enfranchised about anything ????.......how can you admit you were one of WGS biggest critics, now want him back.....wouldn't it be more sensible to promote the idea of 'someone else' instead of TM, rather than someone coming back whom you didn't like.....strange, I'm afraid !!

coorslad, I would exempt Skippy from my earlier rant, I'm sure he was giving it his best shot, but he was the only one. If Big Bobo was to write a book about his time at Celtic I'd be first in the Q to buy one. Can't understand what happened there, he went from hero to zero without explanation, a real mystery.

Coors

I was being "tongue in cheek"
Martis is a huddy. He was at Hibs. He was taken to WBA. We should worry about our defence.

At last! We need to remember that we already have a squad with a fair number of good young players. Our problem over the last 18 months is that we have not been getting the best out of them, and with the right manager (which I believe TM to be), we can get vastly improved results without a lot of financial outlay. That is not to say that we do not need to strengthen in a few key positions, but I am sure that if all of us on here recognise that fact, it will not have escaped the attentions of the incoming manager.
By snatching the title and the CL money I believe the Hunz have done little more than ensure they can stand still next season, no more than that. Retaking the title should be well within our grasp with moderate adjustment to the playing staff. If we need to raise a bit of capital then I would sell the Holy Goalie. If we are scoring plenty then leaking a few should not be a showstopper.
A bit more hopeful on the back of today's news, now let's get Janko aboard and see how we go from there.

Does anybody on CQN take the so-called Celtic fanzine Randalstown Hoops seriously? All they do is copy and paste stories about Celtic from various news sites.

So much so that the latest offering starts as follows: Tony Mowbray was(sic) set to become the new Celtic manager after the Scottish club agreed a two million pounds ($3.30 million) compensation deal with West Bromwich Albion on Saturday.

The Scottish Club? . . . from a so-called Celtic website?

Twelfthman,

going by your posts should your name really be Man of the twelfth?

Tom McLaughlin

"The Scottish Club? . . . from a so-called Celtic website?"

I presume that was tongue in cheek. Either that or you need to reign in the tinnie consumption.

:-)

St Michael's Bhoy

As I was reading your post, I was all geared up to take part in your survey, quite looking forward to it, in fact, but I'm much too young.

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Mr. Z.

I luv Polish Sausages.. although.. I must admit that they are always Purchased in a Local Jewish Delicatessen.

As they were called.. Polish Sausages, I assumed that they Were named because of their original Homeland.

Mebbe, as you have informed.. the Really are..

Jewish Sausages.

While I am on the Subject..

I like Jewish food..

Their Bread is very Tasty.. and Chewy.. and To me.. Bread that is not Chewy, is not my Cup of Tea.

I luv Sour Jewish Rye Bread.. Pumpernickel, Black,Onion... on and on.

I suppose Polish food will be closely related to the Jewish.

That is only a Presumption,of course.

Anyway..

I hope Mr. Bodnar, comes to Celtic.. Mr. Janko?

Mebbe .. he will come.. but, I believe his Buying Price, will be far to Rich for our Blood.

Kojo.
yer Przyjaciel.. who likes ye a loat.

Football is all about opinions. No one can say for definite whether any new signing will be a success or a failure. And that goes for managers as well as for players.

So what can we base our opinions on? Well we can read the papers, listen to the pundits or let our own predujices dictate. But surely the past record of any candidate is the best objective evidence we have to examine?

Tony Mowbray has not yet managed a big club, has not had the weight of expectation on his shoulders, has not had to cope with a hostile press and has little European experience. Those are the negatives.

On the plus side, he is a highly respected young manager with good footballing principles, has a knowledge of our club as a former player and he is a man whom many tip to become a top manager. And I will be as delighted as anyone if he achieves great success at Celtic.

Differing opinions on the appointment of a manager do not make us "better" or "worse" Celtic supporters. We are all entitled to our opinions.

But what is now of the utmost importance is that we all get behind our new manager. Whether we think he is a great appointment or fourth choice does not matter any more.

Tony Mowbray is the Celtic manager and every Celtic fan should get behind him.

zetabhoy,i was a big fan of bobo,but i think it would be best if left.i hope he does,t tell stories,the supporters will then suffer for the actions of a former manager and the board..

Shaunbhoy,

I think Tom's point was that a Celtic website would not refer to us as the Scottish club but as "us" "we" Celtic etc. He is pointing out how they have simply lifted something from elsewhere verbatim. Only a non Scottish media outlet would refer to Celtic as the Scottish club (for the education of their non Scottish readers no doubt). Even the media in Scotland would not refer to us as such (no need to) so why would a Celtic site unless they are printing someone else's words?

Celtic First

As I was reading your post, I was all geared up to take part in your survey, quite looking forward to it, in fact, but I'm much too young.

Now that begins to explain many things:>)

Why not mark the arrival[d.v] of our new manager with a stylish CQN badge[or six]?

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Celtic_First,

No problem. As long as you'll still buy the book ;-)

Thanks Cadizzy, saved me a post, thought it was obvious what Tom was suggesting.

Shaunbhoy - I suggest you read my post again.

The Scottish Club? - was a quote from the website, which was the point I was trying to make.

Hail Hail

badges, badges, we dont need no stinking badges!! Great movie.

St Michael's Bhoy- astonishingly even I am too young to take part in your survey; but without seeing the questions I can tell you my answers would be:

1/Modern

2/Life

3/Is

4/Rubbish

5/All of the above.

Is the Sunderland game the 1st home game next season?

Dubai Tim, I hope so.

Chairbhoy, aye, lots of work to do indeed.

Derbyshirebhoy, I am sure there would be a highlights package either way.

Rammybhoy, yes, keeping well, thanks, hope you are too.

St. Michaels Bhoy, sounds like an excellent and worthy venture.

Gordon_J, wise words.

Cadizzy, Zetabhoy,
I take your point, but there is surely a role for fanzines that simply do the task of cutting and pasting? Not a particularly highbrow style admittedly, but hardly a tactic that should see them belittled. Maybe they don't expect to be taken too seriously and simply seek to inform sections of the support with limited internet access? Live and let live surely?

Gordon_J

Tony Mowbray would not have been my choice but like every manager before him I will support him and rein in any criticism until there is no other choice.

That should take me through till the Brisbane Roar's game:>)

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Tom MCLaughlin.

Controversial?

Ye jist said the Magic Woid,pal.

The Big "C",as it is known in the Trade..is an absolute vital and essential ingredient in any Type of Reportage.

and that includes Everything.. from.... The Length of Women's Skirts to what is Oprah's Present Avoirdupois.

Nae Controversy..

Nae Circulation.

That is Why ..Mr. Keevins..acts.. like..weel..

Mr.Keevins!

And Why Mr. Speirs is now turning his back oan the Celtic Fans.. and showing his True Allegience.

The Big "C" is whit it is awe Aboot.

So..

If ye want a Reaction tae ye submissions.. then..

Ye now know whit tae include in them.

S'Awright?

Awright!

Kojo.
yer pal..who likes ye a loat.

Kojo

I think Collie's first choice was Ronald Gercaliu. He was natural left back at Red Bull Salzburg. I told you about his adventages. I want him at Celtic. Tell Collie he was right. According to the Austrian press Gercaliu and Celtic are after words.
If I'm not mistaken Collies second target was Bodnar. He is free agent too.
Marc Janko is possible signing. Let's hope Tony Mowbray knows how to tie him up for Celtic. From the Austrian press I have learne that he would be excellent striker for Celtic.

Yes, Kojo. Polish food, history and many other things are closely related to the Jewish.

I can't understand why fans who would be critical of Peter Grant. He always gave 100% in a hoops jersey and never let anyone down. He was man of the match in the Airdrie 1995 final when he should not even have played due to injury.
We would all agree that he was not the most talented player to wear the hoops but he made up for that with grit and determination.

What will happen to Neil Lennon with Mark Venus and Peter the pointer coming on board?

Derbyshire

In turning the other cheek, I will share with you a remarkable experience this afternoon. You may have realised this already, but if not, you, as a Francophile and French speaker, will like it.

I was looking at flights to a US destination for work, travelling a month from now.

Because it's the summer holidays, all my usual online booking sources were very expensive. I was about to book the trip for £900 when I thought I'd just have a quick try on a couple of French language sites and I saved £300. Amazing. Charges and taxes much lower.

One site I use a lot seems to have decided to apply a percentage credit card charge. Worse than Ryanair. If you want to save money, google.fr is the place for you.

Welcome Tony and the very best of luck. Let's hope Tony stays at Celtic Park until he retires, continuing our domestic GoD and winning a few European Trophies.

paul67 would you like tm to have a clear out or try to get more out of the current crop?

Shaunbhoy - I'm in such a good mood after the seemingly never ending saga is now more or less ending I'm gonna agree with you, they appear harmless enough and yes why not, live and let live.

t mcl 4-10

ever thought that Peace was happy for TM to go

he just got his team relegated and never ever looked anything other than relegation fodder

and

he got circa £2mill for his failing manager

just who has played the blinder here ......

St Michael's Bhoy.

Reading your exchange with Tom @ 4:49 made me go back to check what the heck you were talking about. Then came across your post at 4;18. I had read it and thought how much I had agreed with it and how your "getting excited for the first time in two years" said exactly how I felt. Why didn't I reply. DKAF! Should have really. Will look out for your posts in the future.

PS. You can join our Lurgan Clique.

The ML2'ers think they're mighty. But see us? We laugh at them!

Grrr!!

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St Michaels's Bhoy - A superb idea. I was born in 1953, which just lets me into your age group. I saw my first Celtic game on 16th December 1961 v Hibs at Celtic Park. At half-time we were 1-2 down and I was crying. My dad told me not to worry as Celtic would win. We won 4-3. I have been a Celtic fan ever since.

I would be happy to take part in your survey.

Cheers mate.

Oh the irony .

We are regularly entertained by the usual suspects droning on about celtic NOT spending money.

Now it appears Celtic HAVE spent money on the most important guy at the club and the reaction is ..indignation!.

All we need now is Neg Anon posting his disgust at the board wasting our money!

Welcome Tony, good luck mate you are going to need it!!

Gordon J

I tend to agree with you on that one. We can only judge Tony Mowbray on what he does for us, what he brings to us. We need to see how his first choice team plays, and the results they achieve, in all competitions. We will see also, how well WBA do without him, will they bounce back under a new Manager, or do a Charlton, or Southampton, who knows? One thing is for sure, if he does indeed bring a successful attacking game to Celtic Park, that coupled with an enthusiastic support, will make it a very difficult place for any team to play.

Tom McLaughlin:

You STILL up ?
Hail hail

PF Ayr - I am so glad you are so sure of your facts. Have you got that down to the nearest penny?

I mean, Peter Lawwell is not going to tell us, so we might as well believe you and Mr Peace.

How fortunate we all are.

To those with an agenda trying to cause ructions about £2m compensation - I would draw your attention to the actual phrase used on the WBA web site - £2m compensation 'package'.

Your guess is as good as mine as to what 'package' actually means - £1Million this year the balance next year - maybe a young player or two heading towards Birmingham - maybe a friendly match at some point next season - but I strongly suspect that we aren't delivering a brief case full of used fivers.

I think that there is often a case of the right man in the right place at the right time if any good manager is allowed to reach their potential. Let's face it, most managers never truly 'succeed' as they are stuck with clubs with big limitations -and even when they do succeed, failure is often just around the corner if they make a bad move.

TM ticks an awful lot of boxes - and he certainly doesn't strike me as being some kind of boradroom 'yes man'.

Good luck Tony - I think that your time might just have arrived.

notthebus - Superb!

I am shocked by the Randalstown sites copied article also.

they should know better, Celtic is an Irish Club.

Ulster-Celt

PF ayr, dont think Tm failed at W.B.A when you consider how little money they spent last year along with the fact the strength of the EPL i think they performed as expected they never budgeted to stay up but budgeted if they went down so as not to risk there long term future.

Tim Buckto - I am having enormous fun. But today is Sunday, and it's not every day my beloved Celtic buy a great manager.

Hail Hail

ulster-celt, you made me laugh,well said....

DBBIA
Just thinking about you, and my promise to share more Jorge Valdano brilliance.

From a section in his masterpiece, Sueños de Fútbol (Dreams of Football), that helpfully lists some of his aphorisms. I think you'll like this one, especially the beginning.

Even football has come under attack from the Bacillus of efficacy, and there are even those now who dare to ask what point there is in playing well.

It's tempting in the face of this to recount that critics once dared to ask Jorge Luis Borges what point there was in poetry, to which Borges responded with a series of questions of his own:

- What is the point in the dawn?
- What is the point in a caress?
- What is the point in the aroma of coffee?

With each question Borges asked, it sounded like he was handing down a sentence.

The point of playing football well is that it generates pleasure, emotion and life.

coorslad

I didn't even use a smiley!

UC

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend.. Mr. Z.

You are correct.. Gercaliu,is collie's tip.

I only added Mr. Bodnar to the Mix.. he is Thirty Years Old.. and I believe that he would be a useful addition,on the cheap.

I have many Jewish relatives..

That is probably why I am fond of the Jewish Food.. and the Jewish People.

The Jews are the Chosen People.. and dinnae ye evah forget that~

Kojo.
yer pal... who likes ye a heap.

I know this is the worst type of rumour but anyway Pele for celtic?

Ulster-Celt.

What about a songs debate?

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Tim Buckto - Your perspicacity knows no bounds.

My wife has just came downstairs and asked me why I am up all night on the computer in the dark and in my pyjamas.

Did she believe me?

Did she heck as like, as they say in Weatherfield.

I was told celtic are still speaking to owen coyle unofficailly even though we have permission to speak to mowbray and coyle is dermot desmonds 1st choice and is'nt pleased with the way the initial talks with coyle were handled.

ZetaBhoy

your question about what happened to Bobo ?

suffer the UEFA cup final once more and you will see what happened to him.

he was gash.

TMCL

the word "circa " was put there intentionally

if i was "so sure" then there would have been no need for it`s inclusion

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let the people sing

UC

Looks like some more wheeling and dealing required if we want TM's backroom bhoys......

WBA official site

"Celtic would also pay an additional compensation figure for the services of Albion assistant manager Mark Venus and first-team coach Peter Grant."

Lurgan 53

:¬)))))

I suppose if one were trying to genetically design the archetypal Celtic manager you would want someone that believed in fast attacking football. Someone that was a "celtic man" and that had a distinguished career with the Hoops would probably be a welcome attribute too. Continuing the wish list you would probably hope that he arrived at the club at a time when our nearest rivals were operating at a financial disadvantage, and it would be no bad thing if were to inherit the nucleus of a good young squad. Well that, I believe, is where we are at fholks. And from my viewpoint the future looks bright, and definitely does not look Orange!!

Hail hail, Welcome Home, and Good Luck Big Man!

Hoops4ever - You were told?

Cool

bigjie,put last seasons team in the stand this year if thats what happens when your gash...

Thanks to everyone who has replied re my research. I'll get the questionaire out to anyone interested over the next day or so.

Lurgan 53,

A clique? Count me in!

Dontbrattbackinanger,

Sounds just like my Old Man.

Tome Mclaughlin,

Thanks!

Paul,

Thanks again.

SMB.

Sorry *Tom*!

coorslad

i'm only giving my opinion on Bobo , not defending the indefensible.

BTW , it wasn't the defence that cost us the league.

St Michaels Bhoy

re your research

what time was you`re post re it

i don`t mind helping if i can

bigjie

losing all those goals from set pieces ....i wouldn`t be so sure

btw we scored the most goals in the league

bigjie,they played thier part in it,and i dont think bobo was to blame for seville..

If Mowbray is the man than he shall get my support, although like any player or manger he will have to earn the rest, I only hope the board back him properly

Glad Owen Coyle didn't get it, the world and their mother (and the rest of coyle's family and friends) seemed to know what was going on at every stage of talks

Now for the 3 players we need and then on to 1 in a row

no goals in our last three games cost us the league.

St. Michaels Bhoy

I'm too young but my Auld Man fits your age range so I will get him to help you out.

Looking forward to your finished article... consider this your first confirmed order!

TLOPG

I am actually looking forward to Peter Grant back at Celtic. Assuming he is part of the package of course. Oh yes I know about his limitations as a player. Just as I am aware of Jock Stein's limitations, and Sir Alex Ferguson's . . . need I go on? If he is good enough for Tony, he is good enough for me.

bigjie

ultimately

however had we not conceded stupid goals earlier in the season then the league may have been in the bag before the last 2 games

btw ..no goals in last 2 games

we beat DU 2-1 in the 3 rd last game

I think the Celtic board feel they are being pragmatic. Under footballs current climate we are never going to do anything on the european front, perhaps a decent Euro cup run, but I cant see a Scottish team even getting to the Champions League group stages again for a long time after this year, there are too many teams with big money around, to negotiate a way through the qualifiers. Celtic will not get into debt to stay in a Scottish League, so there will be no big signings, I feel Mowbray has been brought in to try and keep Celtic where they are, tread water until other opportunities, ie a european league come along, but it might backfire as footballs markets are increasing, if we have no decent product, then who apart from die hard Celtic fans would watch it. We can only hope that either Mowbray is an unsung genius, or that a financial crisis hits the rest of fotball as it is the only way I can se a level playing field.

Tom McLaughlin

Well said.

I have absolutely nothing against Neil Lennon - in fact it is no secret on here that I am a big fan of his and pleased to see him at Celtic. But I still think that the manager should get to assemble his own backroom staff. And if he wants to have a first team coach who is a very qualified, highly respected (in England) coach who was Assistant Manager at West Ham for 3 years and has managed a Championship side on his own then I think that can only be a good thing.

TLOPG

Pf Ayr

i stand corrected , i'm meaning no goals v der hun , hibs and the mini huns , but i'm sure ye get my drift

I couldn't help noticing that the people who were immediately against the idea of Roy Keane getting the job, because of his lack of experience, and quite rightly so, were the same people who were having tickly bellies at the mere mention of Henrik Larsson.

You know who you are.

Go figure.

Looks like a good day for Ex Celtic centre halfs

Tony Moybray set for Celtic and Malky Mackay set for Watford

Jobsforthebhoys

This is the letter

Glasgow Celtic was a Club that I did not know a lot about when I was told that Liam Brady had been in touch with Middlesbrough about acquiring my services in 1991. I knew that they were a big Club with an illustrious history; the first British team to win the
European Cup, and to achieve the amazing feat of winning nine championships in a row.
When I was an apprentice professional footballer at Middlesbrough in the 1980, my youth team coach
would eulogise about Celtic and the great players who had played for the Club. The coach in question was indeed one of the very best ex -Celts; his name Bobby Murdoch.
By the time I left Celtic on 1995, the Club and more importantly the supporters, had left an indelible mark in my heart, which will never leave me.
I feel honoured to have played in “the hoops” and to have given my all for the Club at very difficult period in the Clubs history. It was a volatile time in the East end of Glasgow what with the “sack the board” campaign and the domination of the field of the team from across the city. It was a time of change at Celtic, but what stood firm throughout all of my time at the Club was the belief the supporters had that good times were just around the corner and that the Celts would be “singing in the sun” before too long. Their support of the team on the field was total and the players strived to reward the fans with performances that made you feel as if you were part of a huge family unit - and that feeling of being as one with the supporters could not of been highlighted more than when I was to lose my wife to cancer on new years day 1995. At a time when my life was decimated, and I was as low as any human being can get, the love and warmth I will never forget. Words of support poured in from Celtic folk, from all over the world and at a time when my life was empty, they helped fill that void with their compassion.
So as I said earlier, Celtic will always be ‘my club’ and I feel very humble that I played alongside such great Celts as McStay, Nicholas. Collins, Grant, Bonner and many more, but most importantly that I know whenever I pulled on the Jersey, I gave my all because I knew what it meant to the supporter on the terraces, to be proud to be a Celt.

Take care and God Bless

Tony Mowbray wrote this open letter when he left Celtic in 1995.
At the very least it shows an emotional attachment to the Hoops.
I think he can and will deliver attractive/winning football, and bring the league flag back to Celtic Park.

On Mogga's backroom staff

Just like MON - we might have to wait a while

Will WBA really want them AND a new management team on the books ?

I think not

Remember we have Lenny already at the club who can help TM until the others follow

Player recruitment will be bigger priority in the next few weeks

Power and Pace Tony Power and Pace please

I was in Seville, along with what seemed at the time, 100,000 other Celtic fans. I remember clearly big Bobo being sent off, immediately Porto seemed to go up 2 gears, it was almost as if they'd scored, we went from front foot to back foot in the blink of any eye, from that moment on (bobo's dismisal) defeat was inevitable.

However I also remember the good Bobo, the guy who terrorised the entire SPL, including the huns who couldn't believe we had him in our team, they were supposed to be the team with the big heavies, not us, and bhoy they were not happy taking some of their own medicine.

I was a fan and I miss the big guy, guess he's too old now.

Good luck Tony. I'm looking forward to some good attacking football next season now. Hopefully we can welcome home Peter the pointer too.

notoneofthepeepil - I take your point, but I still refuse to believe that all the quotes that were posted on here in the wake of the so-called "Owen Coyle snub" were genuine.

Celtic asked Coyle if he would be interested in the job. No more. No less. He said no. End of story.

The media reported it as "Coyle snubs Celtic" which then degenerated into CQN - mostly courtesy of one poster whom I shall not name - as Celtic told Coyle he would have no money to spend, and we were all supposed to believe such nonsense. Apparently this came from Coyle's granny, or was it his aunty? It doesn't matter. The point is made.

Are we to believe that Owen Coyle, who was only asked if he was interested, but even if he was told there was no money, would go to his family and tell them every detail? Of course not. But that is what we were told on CQN and expected to believe.

A lot of posters did believe it. That is their problem.

Not mine.

Are you watching Danny?

Onwards to 1 in a row

TheBarcaMole

Will be in touch mañana, amigo mio

zetabhoy,i was at the game in seville,yes bobo was sent off,but i think porto handled the heat better as the game went on..on celtic tv recently,i heard big rab saying he felt that he was singled out for the blame...

Kitalba -

I'll take 3 of your tickets for the Suncorp.

Let me know. You have my phone no already.

Hail Hail

The key for TM if he arrives is how he will deal with the current squad. I'm sure he will have kept tabs on the Celtic side over the years.

Perhaps he has the best idea on the number of Hibs players in the team, maybe he'll think there's too many at the club already, instead of buying a few more: Murphy, Jones, Fletcher, Riordan etc...

My hope is he can improve the existing playing staff, something not seen under WGS which is of course the cheapest way of improving the squad, but not without some very necessary additions.

Not that they are worth a second outing,.. but I will repeat my initial thoughts on the first glorious mystery....The Annunciation.

Not for one MILLISECOND do i believe that Celtic will pay £2m. to WBA.
I have known my club for far too long to make that mistake, & this particular leopard is very much a cat which won't change its stripes...or in this case Hoops.
What I do see is a statement which allows a bit of face-saving on both sides, & I look forward to the benefit match with the Baggies, which will be about the height of what they will get from this particular deal.
More importantly, Welcome Home, Tony.
You are a giant of a human being & a natural match for our great club.

So, we're coughing up £2M for Mowbray, mixed feelings for me, as much as I like his footballing philosophy, he dosen't come with a huge amount of experience (3 or 4 seasons?) or with the reputation/contacts that might attract the suitable calibre of player required for his brand of football. He's what would in other circumstances be called the "cheap option", however as it stands, £2m is significant money in Scottish football.

Especially disappointing was seeing an out-of-contract Frank Rijkaard going to Galatasaray (surely no more than on a par with us financially) without even the most tenuous of links to the Celtic hotseat.

Perhaps we can be won over by a couple of soon-to-be-out-of-contract Barcelona players pitching up at paradise (Sylvinho & Gudjohnsen)

just back in from one very long, seafood and MR Beamish lunch, amazed that the blog is not frozen/ clogged with fevered debate about a potential signing of a new manager.

Much to be said and done methinks before anyone treads the hallowed turf at Celtic Park as new gaffer. Lets wait and see.

Also spotted a certain poster from the Antipodes with a remarkable, "robust" ( dare I say adversarial) debating style which is definately eye-catching :)))

I'm guessing our antipodean chum has a gargantuan appetite for the "frosties"! (Not that that makes him a bad person mind.)

Is it nite, nite or G'day cobber!?

Strewth!

with regard to seville, of course various individual mistakes were made, but the more talented team won - unfortunately.

Been working all lads' any news? I gather from the article Mogga's all but done?

Paul67,

I take it informal discussions between TM and JP might have taken place the targets have been identified and at the ready?

Scott Brown to be TM's captain or a experinced midfield general ot centre half signing ? You heard it here first.

Can we start speculating on new players now? Who'll be his first signing? My money is on Steven Fletcher

If the wait is over then great. Welcome back Tony. Let's hope you remember that playing "The Glasgow Celtic way" also requires a steely nerve and ability to win when it matters....style and 3 points is the name of the game! You were a CH big fella...merge steel and flair and you're on a winner...and be in no doubt...as Celtic supporters, faithful through and through, we'll give you the support that you will need.

We are all in this together!

Hail hail...and on to success...and to play football the Glasgow Celtic way

Bankie Bhoy -

That that?

and

Nite nite?

Tsk Tsk

Gary 67

Craig Beattie

Habemus managerum? Has white smoke been spotted over Parkhead?

gary67 i think he will bring somebody from wba..

Here's hoping cedrtain posters stop having a dig at the messenger . . . ie Paul67

Seems ironic that those, me included, that are not that excited about the imminent appointment of TM, are chastised by those that think he'll bring the glory days back. Optimism based on what....

To use one of Kojo's mantras "what have you done for me lately", 8 wins out of 38, relegation, sticking to your principals (which is enviable) at the expense of survival.

Criticism is always misconstrued as negative. Dr John's comments just dont add up, it should read, best man for the job that we were willing to pay for.

Lets be honest, the boards ambition will never match that of the supporters.

Would someone please lock Peter Rafferty up, to me he's one of those Celtic supporters you just wish he wasnt. Does he still have the combover????

Not that, that makes him a bad person, mind.

read it again without the beer goggles.

And btw, I find your style quite engaging, at least its not dull.

(now someone help me off with my drinking breeks.)

From the BBC site, chants from last season:

"Sell your tower, build a ground."
Barnsley fans to Blackpool at a half-finished Bloomfield Road.

"You're just a fat Maradona!"
Stoke fans to Carlos Tevez against Man Utd.

"Super-cali fragilistic Roman Pavlychenko,
Came to us from Moscow and he's better than Shevchenko.
The only guy we know who drinks his vodka from a kenko,
Super-cali fragilistic Roman Pavlychenko!"
Chant heard at White Hart Lane.

"You should have gone for the salad!"
Chelsea fans to a large West Ham supporter.

"I predict a diet!"
Leeds fans to large Plymouth fan at Home Park, to the tune of the Kaiser Chiefs' I Predict A Riot.

Mr Z,

Looks like the some serious shopping will be done in Austria. The two strikers i mentioned last night, look like the choice. Janko no 1 target then th eother guy i posted last night will be no 2.

Celtic might suprise us and sign both. Wishful thinking on my part :)

I wouldn't be at all suprised if we make another move for Kjelstan again. I reckon there is some unfinished business on him. I haven't got a clue what happened in January, but something never added up. He seemed to have made a big impression on the coaching staff.

Paul67, i blogged a couple of months ago after doing some research into the kid, that i reckon ia big move would be in the offing for him after this seasons MLS and we might have missed the boat on this dude. I think JP might alert Mogga and make a move again. Just a guess on my part, but like i said above, something did not add up for me when he was over in Jan. We were really interested, then nada. Something happened.

cedtrain

Tommy bhoy!!!

Off to your hammock!

Tsk indeed.

Go tell the Spartim

in a word (or 2)

Who would you have appointed

Gentlemen,

I have been "lurking" for quite some time now so it is high time I admitted to my presence. Plenty of informed comment on this blog which has made fairly addictive reading over the past year. This informed comment and debate, when allied to the illinformed gut-instinct reactions of others,such as myself, give voice to the full spectrum of emotions experienced by the celtic community. As a Glasgow man now resedent in the Emerald Isle, I am a less frequent visitor to Celtic Park than in my youth (I even surrendered my season ticket two years ago); however I was present at the Hearts game Gordon Strachan's last, the atmosphere was very poor. I do not have a crystal ball and so have no idea how Tony Mowbrey will perform as manager, but I do believe that the board made an honest attempt to get the available man whom they believed would do the best job for the club. It is my hope that there will now be a full hearted vociferous support for the new man, and that any carping or worrying about his appointment can now cease. He is the man, he needs our full support, and I am jealous as hell that it is not me.

Go tell the Spartim - Where are you getting such lofty aspirations? Is it because you have been reading about the 80m transfer of Ronaldo?

SLAP SLAP Wake up. Wake up.

West Brom have given Celtic permission to talk to manager Tony Mowbray about the Parkhead vacancy after agreeing a compensation package, the English club have confirmed.

Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell targeted the Baggies boss, a former Celtic defender, as the replacement for Gordon Strachan who departed three weeks ago.

A possible appointment had been held up by West Brom's insistence that Celtic would have to meet their £2million compensation figure. The figure has now been agreed in principle, and will rise if Mowbray decides to take West Brom assistant manager Mark Venus and first-team coach Peter Grant, a former Celtic team-mate, with him to Parkhead.

Former Celtic star Charlie Nicholas is happy with Mowbray's imminent return to Glasgow but insists the Parkhead club should have moved to get the deal done last week.

Nicholas told Sky Sports: I have to say I'm happy with it. Tony is very honest and a very devoted individual.

"I think it will be good news for Tony and the good news of the majority of Celtic fans, they don't all want him.

"But I'm amazed. Why did they not just do it a a week ago?

"Why can't they simply say the most important person at the club is the manager of the playing staff and if the man is available a week ago, it's simple business.

"Don't muck about, get the business done.

"But typical Celtic, they have delayed it but if they have moved it on and got the deal done, I will be happy with Tony, Peter Grant and Mark Venus."

Is Charlie the new Peter Raffertay??? Charlie pipe down my son, nobody cares what you think.

Sorry...

Peter Grant sitting in the Celtic technical area is killing me...

BT

I have been too hard on 'The Operators.' I know that now and I am suitably remorseful. I, like others, allowed my impatience to get the better of me. All I wanted was the best for our Club and thought the unbearable delay in attaining a new manager had no justification whatsoever, despite what the cheerleaders said.

I was wrong and I have no difficulty in admitting it.

On reflection, there was no call on my behalf for submitting posts dripping with...well...a lack of understanding. Hindsight is easy, they say, and I confess to opining without being in possession of the facts. Also, I should have been more compassionate in my views. I offer a full and unequivocal apology for not taking into consideration something which I realise only now to be true. Our betters had other issues, apart from Celtic, on their minds.

For example, our esteemed benefactor's mind may have been elsewhere these past weeks. It is not for me to speculate, idly or otherwise, but perhaps that elsewhere may have been Dublin Castle where the Moriarty Tribunal continues to probe some thorny issues. Like payments made to Charlie Haughey. And how a certain company won the competition for the Republic's 2nd phone licence in 1996. Not that I am in any way casting aspertions. Why would I ? Anyway, fear not, for it may amount to nothing more than a hill of beans. Nothing so grave as say, a donation to the Tory Party.

And then there's the good Doctor. Now, if ever a person's mind were to stray into matters other than football then this would be the very man. Indeed, it is he who thought for many years that the TIC referred to Tony's Inner Circle. The secrecy surrounding those Cabinet minutes in the run up to the Iraq War must be a constant worry. Just how long can Jack Straw stall the Freedom of Information people with court injunctions ? The wee fellow saved Pinochet all those years ago but he can't stave off their efforts for ever. Not, ironically, when he is the Justice Minister.

Also, that nagging irritant, extraordinary rendition, won't go away either. And seasoned observers know full well that when Obama's people turn the full glare of their torch onto Dubya's chest of secrets there is a chance that some unpalatable truths may cross the Atlantic, lapping Ireland's shore on the way.

And then there is 'our man'. What can be said other than his plea of mitigation is that he was on holiday ? This while we, the emotionally and financially exhausted support, fretted day after day. He was building sandcastles on a Portuguese beach apparantly. Not exactly a crime worthy of the Hague but disconcerting enough to discover he won the Junior Competion with a Union Jack planted in one of the ramparts.

So there it is Bhoys. How could I have ever doubted our Right Honourable Operators I am so very, very sorry.

PS. Is there time for a troublesome journalist to be discredited tonight ?

backtheteamCSC.

WGS

On the Klejestan deal, I got the impression that fell through because he would need to be guaranteed first team football for both his own international career and for Visa purposes. With Brown, Crosas and Robson all having credible shouts for a first team spot in the CM area, and McGeady, Maloney, Naka, Mizuno and perhaps McCourt (if he ever gets fit) on the wings, I couldn't see such assurances being offered.

All just speculation though...

Something occurs to me.

How long will it be before some of the following things happen:

1. Some paper gives us a doing over preseason results?

2. We get people who whinged about the bad Strachan football saying Mowbray needs to be more defensively / tacticly aware?

3. Some idiot phones Clyde and wants Mowbray out?

I predict that all of the following things will happen but quite when I am not sure.

I hope I am wrong but I know how the world works.

Can somebidy tell me what;s peoles gripe with Peter Grant. He Celtic through and through!! Alright he was mediocre player, but he gave his all.

Trust me the guy is good coach. Hie reputation as a coach is very good indeed. I have a friend who was at one of his coaching seminars he was hosting and he was very impressed with Grantie and knoledge.

I for one can't wait for him to return. Tell you something if you had a peter grant in the technical area in the run in this year or his attitude he took onto the paRK, THEN WE MIGHT NOT HAVE LOST THE LEAGUE.It will be good to see someone kick a few arses in that dressing room. Some ego's and big heads need a dent put into them or shipped out. Mogga and PG won't stand for these guy's

The usual teachers pet under GS and we know who they all are will be in for a big shock. No automatic picks from now on i hope.

stmichael'sbhoy,

As I was born in 1950, I dare say I qualify for your questionaire. Actually, as I was told forcibly by an auld primary school teacher a couple of years ago: I am also, quite literally, a St Michael's Boy. So, I suppose that makes me doubly qualified.

WGS

Well said

The negativity of some supporters on here is staggering.

One possibility would be Tapia, adriaanse, solbaken, would have loved eric gerets, would even have taken rijkaard

Looking for a new project, knows how to play fast attacking football, knows the loan market, has a good tactical mind, might not know much bout scottish football, did Jansen.

Is Mowbray the best we can get? If its a yes, then i think we need to take our dreams and amibitions and water them down dramatically, much the same way as the "sheep" need to do.

More than willing to give him the opportunity to change my mind, provided the board dont have his hands tied behind his back.

If he gets us to the champions league proper, then i think there will be very little to hold him back. he's not my choice, ive said prior to his appointment my views, its not something i'll harp on about. Just not excited.

squire danaher 3.20pm

that was an insult calling me a hun from the six counties for your information my son was the mascot for the home game against Dumdee utd i have followed Celtic for 40 years and because i think the manager to be is second rate you call me a hun and assume that from another forum if you wish to discuss the matter face to face no problem

By blantyretim on June 13, 2009 7:04 PM
Sorry...

Peter Grant sitting in the Celtic technical area is killing me...

BT

Blantyretim - I sincerely hope you do not have a REAL problem in your life.

WGS
No doubt that Peter Grant's enthusiasm and love of Celtic will be a major bonus. Allied to his experience, we've won a watch here,

I think we have made an astute move here.....It's certainly not the cheap option....McGhee or Levein , both bright articulate knowledgeable managers would have cost much less from a salary perspective and also with regards to the "get on board cost"

I hope now that the board have set aside sufficient budget to ensure that we get the significant quality advantage in the playing our financial superiority entitles us to...

To those who are feeling underwhelmed, let me provide 2 lists and maybe the initial reaction, might be seen to be an overreaction...

Unqualified success....

Jock.....from Hibs
MON....from Leicester
Gordon...from the BBC couch
David Moyes....from Preston
Bob Paisley.....from the Anfield boot room
Guardiola....from Barca B
Walter Smith (1st time)......from the assistants position
Tony Mowbray at Hibs....from Ipswich reserves
Vicente Del Bosque ....from Castellon to Real Madrid
Louis Van Gaal.....from his holiday home near Barcelona to AZ.....where he won the title for only the second time in their history

Unmitigated failure
Scolari...from Brazil to Chelsea (fired after 6 months)
Vicente Del bosque ....from Real Madrid to Besiktas (fired after a year)
Guus Hiddink...to Real Betis (he got them relegated and was fired)
Louis Van Gaal...2nd time at Barca, where he was fired after 6 months
Kenny Dalglish...at Newcastle
Ruud Gullit....from Chelsea to Newcastle, fired in his second season
Frank Rijkaard...Sparta Rotterdam, got them relegated in his first season and then he was fired

It's not how famous you are, it's how good a manager you are and how supportive everyone at your club is...from the board to the players and most importantly to the fans

RE Charlie Nick and his 'typical Celtic delaying it'.

I think PL was correct when he had a pop at the guy for knowing nothing about how football clubs are run. To say 'just get it done' is the height of ignorance. david Murray has always operated in a 'just get it done fashion - pay the extra few quid to make my business dealings look efficient'. Enough said.

Chic Nic - time you were commenting on something you knew about. I don't know what that is, but good luck with it.

http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/2009/06/mowbray-free-to-talk-at-last.php#comment-325049

Now some of you ghuys gonna give this man a chance?

Gallowgate -

What a pile of crap.

But then again, you have obviously had it ready for about 3 months, so I guess we must give you a silver star for patience.

just welcoming a good bhoy fae belgium to the site, travels all over europe to watch the hoops, welcome danny

bonzo67 @ 7.14pm - dont get too worked up about that mate, anyone who has a view he doesn't agree with gets called a hun, you've not been singled out for special attn.

Tom
I will answer you only because this is a Celtic site, my life, family and otherwise has nothing to do with this site.

I give my opinions on this site as a Celtic fan and I relate those feelings in a Celtic minded way....

I, imho don't think that he is worthy of a seat on the bench, I also thought the same of Tommy Craig...was I wrong there too...?

St Michael's Bhoy
You have mail.

Forgot to mention - the board must be sacked now. What kind of time is Saturday afternoon to announce that they are talking to Tony Mowbray? It's a disgrace. Sack them all, bring back strachan and sack him too.

rant rant rant rant rant rant rant rant

blantyretim,
what if we gave him a clipboard? Would that help?

barcabhoy
excellent summary.

roberttressel
Charlie Nick talks so much garbage. Quoting David Murray as spending more to get what he wants is exactly why Rangers have financial problems.

Bonzo

Pull your neck in and behave yourself. You are in company.

Welcome Danny from Belgium. Travelled to Ekeren and had a great time.

shaunbhoy
he is from Chapelhall?
it would be a clapperboard, is Chapelhall it not full of happy clappers? o:)

BT

Hey all. Got into Celtic thx to the some good bhoys I got to know in Milan. Grtz

Strange to see such animosity towards Peter Grant, isn't it already a fairly well established fact that most good coaches & managers weren't necessarily the most talented in their playing days?

WGS,

Without getting too deeply into why Peter Grant is not revered as a player, I for one am still annoyed that he got so many years wasting our time and money, playing on his love of the jersey while taking the Daily Rangers shilling oft and on. Yet, I do believe he could well be a great coach, as has been proved with many mediocre players. If he comes, let us all hope so.

Blantyre Tim - I am so glad that your family and your own life comes before the the thought of Peter Grant having anything to do with Celtic, and that you are still alive under such strain.

Would that we were all so lucky.

TG/TML
My gripe with Peter Grant was that he had a testimonial then left, he was lucky to play for Celtic for all those years in the wilderness, take the money then run away.

BT

squire danaher

i will when you apologise for that insult

Tom McLaughlin at 7:18pm.

Tom, aren't you the person who wrote a manuscript then rushed to the Vanity publishers with it ?

If the answer to that is no, then I'll give your criticism some thought. If, on the other hand, the answer is yes then, I'm sorry, but I can't take you seriously.

McGrain

Any news on the baby front?

But remember no one can accuse Peter Grant of not being Celtic minded. Maybe that rubbish will vanish from the tabloids now.

Bobby Evans - it was me who was using Murray as an example, I was pointing out that Charlies 'get who you want immediately' attitude leads to the Murray inspired mess that is RFC! Sorry I didn't make that clearer.

Just been on FollowFollow. they have a rather interesting rumour about a potential new signing who is a Republic of Ireland international!!!! I pray for the day.....

Barcabhoy - fantastic.

Well done mate. Restored my faith in CQN.

Blantyre Tim, I wouldn't worry about the comments of Tom McLaughlin too much, he has been throwing some sarcastic sh*te around for the last couple of days now. We are not apparently allowed opinions.

Wait for it...

Tom McLaughlin

I'll slap yeh

You've got about as much imagination as the board.

I'm no expert on coaching but Peter Grant appears to be very well respected. Why anyone would judge a coach on his abilities as a player is beyond me? On the basis that Peter Grant has coached in the EPL, is respected by his peers, lives and breathes the hoops, I for one am glad that there will be much pointing done in the new Celtic dugout.

The new managerial team deserve our support. Erses kicked, some signings and here we go 1 in a row!

BT

he had a testimonial then left? Isn't that the norm? I doubt he picked himself during all those years with the club, but even at the ripe old age of 51, if Celtic asked me to turn out for them tomorrow I would jump at the chance. Hard to be too harsh on PG because he was "lucky" IMHO.
I grew up in Ayr (for my sins) and sometimes used to go see Ayr United when Alex Ferguson played there. He hardly set the heather alight on the pitch, but that has not stopped him succeeding at managerial level. I say give PG a break.

Welcome, Tony Mowbray, a genuine Celtic Hero in ways that most of us pray will never befall us.

A person of great humanity, humility and keen football knowledge.

We know what he can do. We hope he can do it for us and bring back flair and swashbuckling offensive football.

We know he has form with the Orcs - don't be kidded that Watty and Ally aren't viewing this appointment with a little apprehension given the memories of Rangers teams unable to handle Hibs sides going toe to toe.

We know that he'll give it his all and will expect the same of any player who lines up in one of his sides.

What we don't know yet is if our expectations will all fall into place.

What we must do is give him time and FULL support.

This means the moaners going back and watching vids of what we were like pre-2000 before they declared the Hoops 'their team'.

So ditch the fantasies - we're not Real Madrid, you might wake up to find - and back the man who will try and build a flair-based Celtic side to compete at the very top level on a limited budget.

If you can't raise any enthusiasm for a new man at the helm who shares our ideals and is as passionate about the Hoops as anyone I've ever seen on the park, then perhaps you should think of choosing that club with the 'loftier ambitions' many of you have been whining about.

C'mon the Mogga!

P.S On Peter Grant's return - What we DEFINITELY know about that one is there's going to be a lot of pointing from the dugout this season...

By Go tell the Spartim on June 13, 2009 7:36 PM
Tom McLaughlin

I'll slap yeh

Is that IT?

Wow

Great stuff,lets get going with Mogga.

Can we speculate about who is gonna be brought into the first team and who,s losing their place?

Out of the team,,,,,,,,,,
Hartley,,sorry paul but its Crosas and Brown in the middle
Samaras,,slipped down pecking order due to poor play/goals ratio
BigMick,,Loovens and Gary looked good at the end of last year.Very erratic season for the last managers captain.
LeeNaylor,,to be replaced by one of these austrians the boys are talking about

Into the first team,,
Maloney,,Shauns a cert to play under Tony,and why not.
Mark Wilson,,has a long term contract,young,attacking,decent cross.Tony will like this and might see him more a right midfielder bringing Shaun more inside.
Crosas should start most games
Striker X,,,,,pacey(please please please),clinical,Tall,no older than 27
LeftBackX,,,probably foreign, pace, no older than 26 please,clears the first defender with a cross/corner most of the time,decent in the air
Our new captain who I can reveal for A FACT is Ismael,that Somalian kid who knows how to play!Whats the betting he makes his debut this coming season.Play him in the cups Tony,Blood the Bhoy!

To any baggies fans lurking,,,was Kevin Phillips always captain under Tony?I guess he was the easy choice!Did he come to the club and appoint a new captain or stick with the existing geezer?

Parkheadcumsalford

I don't respond to people when they say that they don't like Peter Grant due to not rating him as a footballer, everyone is entitled to their opinion after all.

But I do take umbrage with statements such as "while taking the Daily Rangers shilling oft and on".

Could you please explain what you meant by this.

I look forward to your response.

Hail Hail

TLOPG

Tom McLaughlin at 7:24pm.

Do you know that that team in Belgium doesn't even excist? Neither their stadion. Celtic played there in season 1991/92.
2-0 in Parkhead, 1-1 in Belgium

Sandman -

Absolutely fantastic.

A genuine Celtic fan speaking fom the heart.

Well said mate.

Hail Hail

Not read the full thread but great to have some movement - let's get Mogga in and get the cheque book out for some new players - we need it!

Hail hail

EHIY

Free at last, free at last

With Tony Mowbray we want...

Three... at least

No claps but no pick axes either

It's time to fulfil our part of the bargain.

No sooner will WGs bee tormenting season be over, give or take the walks (I'll give them if someone will take them elsewhere) and we'll be looking at Celtic playing football and travelling parts of the globe.

I look forward to looking forward

I apprehensively await goals. loads and loads of goals.

God Bless Everyone - here and abroad

C'MON THE HOOPS!

Libertad!!!!!

U

My point is that you don't have to be Celticminded,Peter Grant like all of us is Celtic minded but he is only interested in number 1(nothing wrong there)..

The media have got their way Celtic minded, not football minded, we have undersold our club by going for TM,PG and MV.

Welcome home Mogga lets get back to playing football the Glasgow Celtic way and i for one look forward to watching attacking football and let the trophies return back to Paradise and the feel good factor too Hail Hail Tony Mowbary .

To the intellectual leviathon Tom McLaughlin

What is it you want? recognition, everybody to think you've got big cajones, personnally, based on your pompous blogging, i think that you're a bit of a tool.

Is that better?

What people have to remember about Charlie Nicholas is that he learnt his media trade from Gerry McNee. The story was that Charlie was McNee's mole inside CP in the mid-1990s, providing the Fat One with a long list of grievance stories against Celtic. Not long after he retired, Charlie ended up at STV, where McNee was head honcho. Quid pro quo.

Now Gerry's style of "journalism" is quite simple: it is based on the notion that Scots love complaining. About anything. We always feel we are being "betrayed". "Sold out". This defines our parochial, angry, visionless, politics. Someone is always seeking to do us down, to pull one over on us. Only in scotland could a serial moaner like Alex Salmond look like a statesman.

Football fans take this to extremes. Gerry simply applied these methods to the seething chaos that was Celtic in the 1990s. He knew the fans were suspicious of the old board, and of McCann too. The best way to generate sales of newspapers and get viewers was to play on that, to exploit it. To become the man who always "exclusively reveals" that next slight, the next outrage, the next fiasco, from inside the corridors of power.

And it worked. Celtic fans lapped it up. The reason McNee hated McCann was that Fergus was a success. He stopped the need for these stories, and plugged the leaks. He effectively stopped McNee's lucrative career in its tracks. McNee's last throw of the dice- an attempt to get "The Fields of Athenrye" banned- was a desperate and pathetic failure. Since then, he has virtually disappeared.

His legacy lives on in Nicholas though. So for Charlie, an announcement by Celtic requires not fair-minded analysis. It must be seen in terms of a failure. Mowbray was appointed too late. Celtic dragged their feet. Didn't open the biscuit tin.

If we win a game in the CL, well, the opposition weren't trying. They still wouldn't beat Arsenal. it's all about passion rather than technique. They still can't win away etc etc...

Following McNee's rules means that Charlie will never welcome any news about Celtic as good news. He believes the fans still want to see cover-ups, failures, discord.

As a player he failed to successfully move beyond about 1983. As a pundit he is stuck in 1993.

Jamiro - I didn't know that. It was Germinal Ekeren and we had a really nice time with the fans. It is sad to know they do not exist.

Peter Grant is a legend and a Coatbridge man to boot - I'm delighted to see him back at Celtic.

ItaliaBhoy - Why now?

Tom McLaughlin-

You still up?

That wife o yours will be downstairs again shortly.

HAIL HAIL

Paul67,etal.

I'm really disappointed that Celtic have capitulated to the WBA's Owner,regarding payment for TM.Is Mowbray worth that kind of money,to be paid to their braggard Owner.

I hope I'm wrong re the payment,and they just get a nominal sum,I was under the impression that there wouldn't be any requirement to pay ,Did you not mention that on the blog,I know Celtic give to Charities freely,but surely WBA doesn't come into that area regarding Charities.

No I think we have had our pockets picked by a smarter man than the SSM,And if that is true then the fall out is still to come from the Sunday Papers,and we will suffer from the Redtops all next week and onwards.

I don't purchase papers, but I feel sorry for those that do.

I'm quite happy with TM being chosen as our new manager,I like to see entertaining football being played the Glasgow Celtic way,And hopefully Tony will bring that to us.Maybe wash away the blues?from last season,we were dreadful.
But blame shouldn't all fall at Gordons door,I have a suspicion that all was not well in the dressing room, who's fault, I don't know,but there were non-triers playing in a lot of Celtic games last season,I may be wrong,but if there is a vast improvement in certain players next season,then what I have written,will be true.

I found that hard for me to write,but I've thought it nearly all the season that's just past,It happened too often for there not to be some truth in it.

That is solely my opinion.

theBHOYfromU.N.C.L.E on June 13, 2009 6:28 PM

No worries bud (whenever time allows)just glad that we established (and agreed) that we were the real deal re the Camp Nou (City Public playground, is that right?)............... or Kennedy St., as we knew it!!!

'Happy days indeed'.....

God Bless Kano.

Regards & Hail Hail
TBM

BT

watch out

you`ll be labelled a hun or at the very least your support of your team will be labelled disingenuous

have`nt you noticed that if you don`t follow the required line of all in the garden is rosy/no way will we pay £2m to WBA/TM and PG are magic ...then all forms of calumy will pour forth on you

the self rightous approach of some is actually quite amusing

anyway ,....well pal?

wgs always read your articles with some intrest but have any actually happened with the free this one or that one i think you might have to change your tactics so some might happen

PF

You have summed up perfectly what this blog is turning into.

Oldtim67, I have a feeling that you may be right about the dressing room. I also hope that we have not parted with £2m purely as a compo payment for tony and that stories appearing that we may need to pay for his management team (in addition to the £2m?) are also wide of the mark.

Time will tell.

Not my first choice, but if TM's to be our new boss, welcome back,
hopefully we'll see a return to Celtic playing our way and not changing to accomadate the opposition, need to get back to teams worrying about playing us, not the other way about.
As to the mob across the river, any money they make from the cl,the banks will be waiting to take care of it, and the man with no surname has already told the mankey mob not to exspect any signings. Once it's confirmed it's TM, can we give him a chance.

Sparetim

argumentative/irrascible/irritating ......

or maybe your plain description is more apt

oldtim, i strongly suspect that Celtic will not willingly tell us how much they paid for TM. I don't know if that kind of payment shows up in the public accounts??

I suspect that we have not paid £2 Million for TM alone. As paul keeps pointing out Celtic may have to pay what Tony Mowbray owes WBA for terminating his contract early. I cannot see a way around this unless Mowbray wants to pay it himself - but then what message would Celtic be sending him by doing that? Pay yer own compo and then join us TM!! Biscuit tin wouldn't be in it....

can't see what more Celtic FC could do here otehr than tell Peace - yer manager wants away, we'll give you x amount of his due pay off or you'll have an unhappy manager on your hands and we'll go elsewhere.

Perhaps this is the case and perhaps we have told Peace as part of the deal you can say what you like about it and we'll keep schtumm.

Wonder what kind of wages he is going to be on at CP??

Tommmmeeeeeeeeeeee!

Time for baw baws,

get into that hammock.

:)

Betfair latest-Next Celtic manager,

Mowbray 1/20 f

Coyle 55/1 sec fav.

Think I'll make myself an easy pound.

HAIL HAIL

Go tell the Spartim -

You posted this . . .

By Go tell the Spartim on June 13, 2009 7:36 PM
Tom McLaughlin

I'll slap yeh

You've got about as much imagination as the board.

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To which I replied . . .

Wow

. . . and you have just replied

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To the intellectual leviathon Tom McLaughlin

What is it you want? recognition, everybody to think you've got big cajones, personnally, based on your pompous blogging, i think that you're a bit of a tool.

Is that better?

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I leave my fellow bloggers to make up their own minds.

Thanks

Tom @750pm- not sure of your point? you mean why did I post? In response to comments about Nicholas further up the thread...

philvisreturns

Peter Grant (like me) is a former pupil of St Patrick's Coatbridge, but he doesn't come from that sophisticated metropolis...

...he's a Chapelhall country-bhoy!

blantyretim

I can assure you that Peter Grant leaving Celtic was absolutely not something that he wanted to do.

Peter was offered numerous chances to leave Celtic over the years and always fought tooth and nail to stay at the club.

He even signed a new contract for less money than his previous one!

Given the choice, Peter would never have left the club. But when you are told you are not needed anymore... AND you are told that you leaving is in the best interests of the club... then if you truly love the club you would not stay and receive money for nothing.

That is what he did.

If you do not like Peter for leaving the club when he did I assume you must love Bobo Balde for staying? Or Thomas Graveson for demanding to be paid off?

I would like to know your thoughts.

Hail Hail

TLOPG

OT

wise words as ever

how you keepin pal?

I'm going to give you all a controversial talking point:

It will be better for TM and Celtic FC in general if we drop in to the Europa league this season. I'd love to see us in the CL proper, I really would, but my logical brain tells me that Mowbray will benefit from cutting his Euro teeth on lesser opposition. Money wise we will not suffer too much from this situation. It might be useful for some of our players as well.

I have had a spectacularly good day and it is now Beer time for me, but I'll leave you with this:

Prediction for the coming week:

now that we look to have a manager in place expect to see a list of signing targets appearing in various newspapers (mostly fictional/ guess work) and then Celtic being 'snubbed' by all of them. it is the twice yearly game of 'demoralise the Celtic Support'.

However, with a new manager in place things usually go a bit quicker in the first season as he will be anxious to get the squad together ASAP.

Enjoy yer evening and I look forward to catching up with any replies to my last post, indignant, outraged, bemused or otherwise. that's what it's all about is it not?

Paul67
Correct me if I am wrong, the board meeting at CP yesterday went like this
Who do we want 1. Martinez
2. Mowbray
3. coyle
Who is the cheapest to get????
Answer Mowbray
OK Go for him.
But make sure he knows there is no money available to him .
EVERY PLAYER IS UP FOR SALE.
He cannot buy till he sells.
Sorry folks this is what will happen

roberttressell

Are you a hun? No controversial points allowed on here. Stick to the party line please.Begone!

PS I know you're not a hun.

roberttressell - It's 5am here in Australia and I have been up reading all the comments. Thanks for your post which will be the last I will read before I go to bed. I agree with every word mate.

Cheers.

johnbay

with a post like that you`ll send some on here into apoplexy

ItaliaBhoy - " This defines our parochial, angry, visionless, politics. Someone is always seeking to do us down, to pull one over on us. Only in scotland could a serial moaner like Alex Salmond look like a statesman."

Scottish politics is pretty much a depressing little bog of eternal stench, the likes of which even 1986-era Labyrinth David Bowie wouldn't be able to hold his nose at. Salmond looks like a genius compared to some of the tragic genetic anomalies that get elected to the Scottish Parliament, who seem to range from psycho-left Castro-worshipping senga nutcases like Rosie Kane to mainstream left politically correct smugtoids like most of the SNP, Liberals, and Labour, whose opinions all come from The Guardian., all of them agreeing that what we really need is to steal more of the public's money via taxation so they can micromanage people's lives even more.

Mind you, Westminster isn't much better these days - too many chinless professional politicians who haven't done an honest day's work in their lives. People shouldn't be allowed to become MP's until they've worked in the private sector for at least 10 years - if they can't be shown to be able to hack it in the real world, they shouldn't be legislating for the country. Either that or there should be some kind of IQ test administered to all prospective parliamentary candidates and the bottom 50% subjected to electrocution of the genitalia as a means to discourage the thickies. It could all be televised and the public could phone or text to vote for their least favourite politician to be put in a burlap sack and beaten to a bloody pulp by the cast of Joseph and His Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat, with the proceeds going to help pay down the national debt.

"McNee's last throw of the dice- an attempt to get "The Fields of Athenrye" banned- was a desperate and pathetic failure. Since then, he has virtually disappeared."

I remember that one, he pursued that bizarre, vindictive, and nasty little campaign through the Daily Record, if I remember correctly.

What made it even more outlandish and offensive was the context. This was at the time of Dignity FC's debt-funded nine in a row, when there wasn't a peep of dissent from the Scottish media about the foamy-mouthed regulars at Ibrox singing about effing the Pope and frolicking in Catholic blood. In fact, the media revelled in Rangers' success and Murray's bombast, they openly celebrated it.

And here was poor, bitter, cantankerous Gerry McNee trying to sell the idea that an Irish ballad about love and loss in the time of the famine was a terrible scourge on Scottish football, nay, society at large.

What an eejit.

I don't know what he's doing now, but I bet his children put him in a home and rarely visit.

robertrtressell - Almost forgot. The book. The best socialist book ever. I read it as a Glasgow Uni student in 1971.

The one book that really did change my life.

PFayr.

I'm feeling fine,Looking forward to the golf day,20 days and counting.

I walked into a bit of furniture in the house,and have a nurse coming in to dress it (my leg)every couple of days,I just hope it heals before golf day.

Pujol - He's an honorary Coatbridgian, an adopted son of the Athens of North Lanarkshire.

PF ayr
Agree wholeheartedly.Cant be arsed posting these days due to these blind apologist's.

Totally underwhelmed,but will look forward in hope.Hope you and yours are well .

evening all, as jack warner usd to say

to those who doubt Tony's ability and choice as next celtic manager and have understandable reasons for doubting him, there are no candidates that we could get that will not have some form of doubt about their ability. only Moyes for me would be a better choice but in plain terms - we cannae get him!

very soon we will have a leader back at the helm of Celtic football club, he deserves our support, he will play football which is more attractive than what we witnessed under Gordon Strachan in the last year or so.

can we play winning attractive football or do we have to play winning football? (is this not the dilema we had under WGS?)were the critics of WGS not those who wanted attractive football, well it seems most of the same critics are the ones stating TM is not good enough.

i have yet to see anyone other than Davie Moyes listed as a better candidate, even Paul67's wee dark horse from Denmark would still be a gamble. as would Martinez, Coyle, McGhee,etc etc

as has been mentioned Jock Stein was not of great reputation when he came to Celtic, he was a manager much like Tony Mowbray is, a guy who has his teams "play football the Glasgow Celtic way......"

welcome to celtic Tony

long may you reign at Paradise

Hail Hail

OT

unfortunately i will be on holiday and will miss the golf day

not a keen golfer ...but would have enjoyed the apres

PF Ayr
Thats whats coming out of CP.I can assure you from a good source.
Same as the cream buns

johnbay

i always thought they were the "current buns"

Hail Hail

johnbay

i always thought they were the "currant buns"

Hail Hail

Kingho
Nice to hear youre now converted to the "the party line" and you will support big TM.Look forward to sharing a pie with you next season

johnbay

i hear what you are saying , but a clear out is needed regardless of any budget.

PFayr.

Apres it is for me,and befories,and inbetweenies,and into the small houries too.a good weekend your missing.
Ah well there's always next year.

C1ST @5.34- I look forward to the Bacillus of efficacy taking hold in the Celtic dressing room; sharing genetic material with the Virus of flair to mutate into Mogga's marvels.

After dreading water for far too long it's good to be moving again.

Come on Celtic, close the Gap!

johnbay

i think you have been drinking

nelsbhoy

very well

a real stonkin` hangover ...i was at the EBA dinner in the Balmoral

it was a long train journey home this morning
self?

johnbay

I'm not rising to the bait this time!!

Re the Mowbray/Hibs interview story, that is 100% true and was relayed to me at a charity function by a member of the hibs board at the time. Basically they were going to appoint Alan Kernaghan for the job and interviewed Mowbray last out of common courtesy. They were so blown away by Mowbray's outline for the club, bear in mind Hibs had had a dreadful season 03/04, they gave him the job in the room.

My dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,dear,friend ..Old TIm
@7.52

Your Inner Man is correct.. you should listen more often to his promptings and suspicions.

The Blame for us losing the League in the run up .. must be placed prominently out side of the Player's Dressing Room Door.

It was far from being Completely the Fault of Mr. Strachan.. who was let down badly by his Player's.

The All Round Individual Performances of the Celtic Team, from January, until the Season's End.. and in this I am referring to most members of the Team.. with the shining Exception of Ange..were frankly, abominable.

The Strikers, refused to Strike.. and ..insisted in refusing to take any and all scoring opportunities that happened to fall their way, in a most determined manner.

The Mid Fielders,persisted in being very Inconsistent in their individual Performances,and in a most Consistent Manner.

Yes,pal..

Your Inner Man, was right..

Mr. Strachan, had lost the Dressing Room.

Why?

I do not kmow.. but, he most definitely had lost it, during the last Six Months of his Tenure.

So

Let's hope our new Leader, whomsovevah he shall be.. can re-kindle the Bonhommie that has been much missed in the Celtic Dressing Room, during the last few months.

Kojo.
yer pal..who likes yer style.

were, Frankly, most disappointing.

entouradge

thats very interesting pity he didnt blow away the huns on the last day of the season 04/05

Bono 67
Yes i was at the local Gala today but my mind is semi clear. I have now got time to chill out and update CQN on the texts i have received today. I feel it is right to share the what I hear from the upper echelons.

PF

Back on the Red Wine these days,finished a nice wee Merlot this afternoon having won a case at a Golf outing on Thursday.Went to Shops at Falkirk beforehand.

Apologize to anyone from those parts,but my God Ugly Huns and Stepford Wifes.Also lots of folk drinking Lucozade??

Think we need to be seduced by quality in comings before my Juices are flowing again.

Keep tellin it anyhow,regards NB.

Mowbray it is then. He will get my support, because he will be managing Celtic. I love Celtic. I think there's a few fholk here that do to.

Obscure I know but Woodrow Wilson, said

“We grow great by dreams. All big men are dreamers. They see things in the soft haze of a spring day or in the red fire of a long winter's evening. Some of us let these great dreams die, but others nourish and protect them; nurse them through bad days till they bring them to the sunshine and light which comes always to those who sincerely hope that their dreams will come true.”

I hope Tony is a big dreamer, we have had such men before you know.

jvoh67

nelsbhoy - "Think we need to be seduced by quality in comings before my Juices are flowing again."

Stop that, this is a family blog.

Frankly im embaressed.

How can people slag Peter Grant.

No he wasnt the talented , ball playing midfilder, but you know what, he lived his dream, my dream, and most people who post here dream.

Should he have declared himself not good enough and walked away, or savoured every second of his boyhood dream? i know what i would have done.

He is as much a celtic man as Tommy Burns, Paul McStay,Billy McNiell etc.

What possible kick do folk get out of slating a guy who is one of us????

I watched his interview the other day on Celtic tv, and i would be proud to have him associated with our club in any way, shape or form.

Welcome back Peter.

mindboglingCSC

robertressell

Nothing contreversial about it. Best possible thing as we currently stand. Would be good to restore the co-efficient and there is the possibility of a good run which could not only benefit us finanacially but would restore some excitement if there were actually a possibility of success in the competition.

The only financial difference would be the amount of money guaranteed by CL entry and that little pang when the cl anthems are played but not for us.

pf ayr

I was called a hun earlier because i dared to say that mogga as he is known is a second rate manager

Hail Hail

Peter Grant
Been there, bought the teashirt etc

Parkheadcumsalford,

You could say that statment about McManus as well as well as few of the present team.

johnbay

who is your source sounds as if you have an insider

johnbay - don't take this the wrong way but I severely doubt board members text their mates with details of meetings. In person, yes, on the phone, maybe but texts I doubt it.

In the past few seasons the mantra has been been spend what we've got. This season we've still got money. Next season (if we don't get into the CL or have a decent run in the Europa Cup) we'll have none and then it really will be sell first, buy later.

That's not to say we'll have loads to spend, and I think that we'll need to to make all the changes required.

But absolutely no spending without sales. It would be out of sync with what we've done for several seasons.

It would appear that the ogligitory bout of interracine warfare has broken out on CQN....q the sacastic posts....the verbose retorts...accusations of hunism........accusations of pandering to the board line....just another day.

bonzo67
yes could well be,
lives over the water.
Enough said.
Although if Wigan had n't come in for Bobbie Martin I would be a rich man
gan

Johnbay, if that was the case, why pay £2m for a manager.

Let W McStay do it and give him £2M.

Just back home from supporters club AGM and EVERYBODY was happy that the announcement was made that Tony Mowbray will be the new manager.
Not everybody agreed that he was there first choice by any means but the overwhelming feeling is that of excitement for the season ahead.
We all expect to see the Bhoys playing exciting, attacking football 'the Celtic way' again and a genuine air of anticipation about the season ahead was palpable.

Good luck Tony Mowbray

Hail Hail

I dont mind selling as long as we spend what we get in.

the holy goalie needs to go for his own good so we should get around £3m for him.

Brown or Aiden may be sold thats another 4 or 5 million

donatie again maybe 500k

The greek tragedy perhaps 500k

Thats 8 million if tony mowbray gets it all thats a bigger spend than in the last 3 years.

Personally I think we are lucky if we have 2 or 3 million to spend without selling.

Hail Hail

weeminger

spend what we`ve got

aye but only after making concerted unnecessary effort to repay moderate debt

Boruc £3m....

What about his left hand side?????

johnbay

they are only talking to mogga you never know its not over until the contract is signed the board may see the light and employ an up and coming manager martinez will end up at Barca while mogga will be at East Stirling

eustace p

i would not be happy with 3 million for artur,we should be looking for at least double that

i know his form shaded slightly last season,but not that much.

hail hail

Navanbhoy

Are you Peter Rafferty?

RDK7
Wullie great guy no experience. PL frightened in case it went belly up. Wullie has to go and manager experience.

navanbhoy

There must have been a lot drink being consumed

PF Ayr

You are very crabbit today.

I am a mineshafter, I have never denied it, however, you are so deep in the shaft that I actually cannot see your boots.

C.mon, chin up, this could turn into a genius move.

jvoh67

Boruc 3 Million, Broonie 10 Million plus Aiden 6-7 Million..

3 Million for the rest of the crap squad players....

Some kitty for Mowbray to spend on championship dross

Glad Setnata have gone bust so i dont get to watch this horse$hit

bonzo67

come on mate i know your not happy that tony may be our new boss,but your ripping the arse out of it a bit now

all you have done today is run the guy down,why dont you give him a break,,give him a chance,is that to much to ask???

hail hail

Bonzo

You were called a hun because you were acting like a hun and posting drivel like you do on Betfair. Your opinion on the new manager is your own business and I care not a jot how you view the situation.

You proceeded to reinforce initial suspicions and invited me outside because I identified you as a hun.

Hope this clarifies the situation for you.

bonzo 67
East Stirling have a good manager in Jim McInally.
Could be ours in a few years

My prediction for the summer -

Rangers will try to sign Bobo Balde.

kingoh, that made me laugh
bonzo67 so did that

johnbay

i know what you mean but......

pep guardiola great guy no experience..

LA LIGA
COPA DEL RAY
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
TREBLE!!!

I just cant fathom how you can pursue a manager to the tune of £2M, then say he has nothing to spend, nothin personal mate, just dont believe it.

liveinhopeCSC

Is Mark Wilson and John Kennedy likely to be fit at any time this century.

A Lee

JK and MW for the door, hope will follow Mick oot an all.

I'm off now,

Is it just me or can you smell HUNTERLOPERS

Night to the true tims

Pather,

I think your right. I wanted Martinez first and Tony second. I am happy that we got Tony, not disappointed. Would have benn m ore disppointed if someone like Coyle or a few others that have been mentioned had got it.

Onwards and upwards with TM. I actually think that the revenge on Walter and his 90's domination may complete with TM. His style is similar to TB's and i hope that this kind of football succeds and destroys Walter and Rangers which it so nearly did under TB.

What is irominc about it is that TM and PG were part of the club that were getting done over by Rangers. I'm sure that is not lost on them. I'm sure they want to set a old score big time.

Just hope they know that to succeed they need to complement there great attacking play with a solid defence. I hope TM has been taking counsel on this via a few people. See Ray Clarke has left an opening has occurred. TM and PG might should contemplate getting somebody like David Hay on board.

Tobi Legand
Spot on
There only signing and already i feel sick

squire danaher

its bonzo67 please as said my son was the mascot against Dundee Utd so they let huns be the mascot nowadays we will soon be employing second rate managers oh sorry we are just about to

dunno about wilson and kennedy , although seen kennedy and mcmanus in the pub on thursday night, kennedy is a giant of a man.

and he deserves a bit of luck.

jvoh67

It's easy to spot. Good Tim people come on, thank Paul for his efforts and say ‘Come on the Hoops’, and that's them into CQN.

The people who are just pretending are much more arrogant, confrontational, self-important and opinionated from the off, challenging all-comers, playing the Billy Big Breeks.

Just an observation, based on years of, er, observing.

Kojo.

Thanks for your comments on my post,I posted my own opinion on my thoughts, and if were true,the perpetrators would never play football for Celtic,or any other team again,if there was an agenda not to play football for Gordon,and in saying that, Celtic,they would have no right to enter the field of play ever again.

But as I say,it's an opinion,my opinion, and that is all.

bonzo67, where u happy with strachan when he was appointed???

Paul, feel free to delete if inappropriate. I apologise in advance.

I was just talking with a good friend of mine, from the town of Coatbridge (in which Mr Grant used to own/run a hostelry, Cole's I think). He seems to remember a rumour regarding Peter. I do not know if this is the truth, but he swears it is gospel, as he used to drink in the said establishment. I know this may just be the type of rumour that followed another Monklands player.

Courtesy of Cartuja on KDS;

Welcome Home Tony

Cant wait for the press conference, hopefully we will get an idea of what kind of summer we can expect.

Surely we are not parting with 2 large for a manager and not giving him decent funds in which to do his job.

LB
DM
CF

Just for starters.

Kingoh

No i'm not Peter Rafferty

bonzo67
The usual amount of alcohol for an AGm (Well here in Ireland anyway) but seriously as i muted, not everybody would have had Tony Mowbray as first choice but the general concensus was that out of the REALISTIC suspects being mentioned, it was generally agreed that he is the one that has the best chance of getting us moving forward and making the best of what we have got. Loads of people would love an internationally renouned (not sure if that is spelled right) manager who could guarantee us the league,cups and european adventures but most are happy that at least we SHOULD be able to look forward to going to the games again!

Velvet underpants

That pub was owned bye his in laws as far as im aware, and its now flats, has been for years.

It used to have dozens of buses leaving from it each week for CP.

rdk7

yes as a matter of fact as he was endorsed by mon i think Gordon should have gone when he got to 3 in a row the signs were showing the team wre becoming stale

wgs

when did ray clarke leave?

plenty on here to go into the mental bank for this time next year. every single one of you dirty huns who's posted today will be in my thoughts.

bonzo67-

Perhaps you were called a hun earlier,cos that's exactly what you are.

No real Tim would come on & spew the bile against the new manager,like you have done.

Good Luck Tony.

HAIL HAIL

celtic4orme

Once his passport ran out.

A Lee

Cartjua wallpaper of Mowbray is class.

Got my blood pumping now for the new season.

Hail Hail Cartjua if you read this site. Belter mate, belter!!

navanbhoy

dont you not think we would have that type of football under matinez tommy docherty quoted swansea played the best football outside of Barca

""" rdk7 @8:47 PM
Frankly im embarassed.
How can people slag Peter Grant"""

Exactly. The man is one of us. Hope he can install the passion that has been missing...I will never forget him running back and making a game saving tackle in 95. Horribly injured in obvious pain. HE won us that cup that day as much as big pierre did in my opionion.

TM? I welcome Mowbray with open arms. If he actually signs. Its not done yet is it?

Tony may take a year, but we will have our celtic back.
games will be enjoyable although not always victorious. remember the barren years, I can accept defeat. What I will never accept from a celtic side is acceptance of defeat. TM and PG will hopefully never allow this.

What has owen / martinez done that beats tony?
Who is to say they would not be relegated from the big league?

I dont see all the fuss. A manager who understands the football philosophy we demand. Get him in and get the team sorted asap.
Can we have a left back please tony........

Peter Grant was one of us in a hooped shirt.

Whatever you consider the limitations of his ability, he never hid or gave less than blood for the cause.

So to hell with the pretentious 'experts' who never kicked a ball in front of a critical audience in their cosseted lives.

The one thing Pg will ally to Mogga's technical plans is passion. Technique, flair, and passion - the magic ingredients that went completely missing least season at the crucial moments.

Now, there's some on here acting like schoolboys with petted lips, claiming that to dare to support the new Celtic manager you're a 'blind apologist, or just 'towing the party line'.

Really?

Should we all be sat at the back of the class shouting at the big bad board for acting like sensible grown-ups with the clubs finances (for ONCE. Anyone remember the dreaded 90s and the 'families' maniacal efforts to destroy everything we hold dear?)?

Well, screw you weans. Maybe we should petition the board for a new stand - 'The Malkoptent', a section for petted lips and the generally disgruntled.

Dick Byrne.

I think he's looking at the haircut in the image with Peoples on the Hoops, and saying to himself, ‘What WAS I thinking?’

Bonzo67

Well if you found happiness with strachan, whats the difference with Mogga.

Roughly in managerial terms both are (at the time strachan took the job) about equal, only Mogga has a far better philosophy on the game.

If anything WGS over analyses (prob wrong spelling) football.

And i didnt agree with WGS appoinment because of his football style and personality.

Dont think you have much of a case , just because MON approved him.

It was only a recomendation, i feel we will be more pleasing on the eye with MOGGA.

everyoneentitledtothereownopinionCSC

Oldtim and Kojo,

I really must agree with you both.

We gave away a league that was won in December.

As to why that happened, well the players were just not performing at all.

I feel the dressing room was lost when Aiden acted as spokeperson for the rest of the players saying what he said.

I believe the players saw an opportunity to sell the manager short and took it.

I say again we gave away a league that was won in December.

Something was rotten in Paradise these last 5 months.

Martin.

Navanbhoy

So the concensus at the agm has changed from 'EVERYBODY' ( I presume you put that word in capitals for emphasis a bit like the way people use 'FACT' on here when expressing an opinion) to 'generally agreed' in your later post.

soal

sorry, you've lost me

gallowgate - keep up the posts mate, always entertaining, always thoughtful and always worth a read, still laughing at your story about your grandson's mate and the auld guy ! i for one agree with your views on charlie haughey's mate (allegedly) and the war criminal (alleged)

tom mclaughlin should have gone bed to hours ago, maybe when his view that dd was going to tear himself from the moriarty enquiry long enough to unveil us a manager that would surprise us proved to be a load of b@@ls. yeah Tony Mowbray, big surprise - ETIMS had that on their Rumour Mill about 3 years ago.

bonzo67

Maybe that type of football would have happened under Martinez and and one of the head scoutsin Ireland for Ipswich Town only mentioned that to me earlier today but the thing seemed to be that nobody really knew anything else about him and maybe it felt like too much of a risk, time will tell!

bonzo 67

im not having a go at you mate im just asking you a question,

are you a rangers fan on here at the wind up???

you are acting like someone at the wind up,,,if you are not then accept my appoligies,but my gut tells me that you are not one of us!

since the news broke today about mowbray,you have slagged him off non stop,unfairly in my opinion,so if your a tim i would say give the guy a chance before you knock him!

if your a hun at the wind up,then all i will say is BEAT IT,,

hail hail

Anyone slags me off and me and my best late Johann Mjallby will be round to shoe you in!

Guys
When I watched Peter Pointer my comment was with him in the team we would never win another European Cup. Nice lad but never Celtic class.

muckish mountain

so i take it pf ayr and kingoh are huns because they dont agree with you i am looking forward to the great attacking football like he did in 2005

I was dreaming the other day about being the new manager and what i would do if i had no money to spend but had a very very large pool of players in front of me.
I started noting the players that would be leaving (out of contract), could leave(i didnt fancy them as players) and heh presto at the end of it, if i could move them on, I would have £13M to spend on 4 quality replacements. I based this on saving approx £8M on wages and £5M on transfer fees.

Balde
Nakamura
Hartley
JVOH
Samaras (£1m fee)
Mcdonald (£3M fee)
Wilson (0.5M fee)
Donati (0.5M fee)
Mark Brown
Cuthbert
Kennedy
Killen
McGowan
Then just as i had worked it all out, PL walked in and told me not to be worried about money, those days were over.

I think TM will have money to spend, but guess what, if he has not then there is enough players to trade with, to improve considerably what's already there, and that is without having to sell what i consider our main assets (Boruc, Brown, McGeady)

celtic4orme

Ray Clarke was meant to be our top class european scout and would be all over the place watching our next great player.

all he done was collect air miles and get plenty of duty free.

A Lee

johnbay..

the phrase nice guy , but never celtic class....could be used for hundreds , possibly thousands of players, most of which couldnt come close to the passion and love he has for the club.

johnbay

with fans like you , we wouldn't deserve to win the european cup , you have no class.

ibleedgreenandwhite

I can assure you i am not a hun i feel the board have let us down it is important to get the right manager, in my opinion Martinez was the man watch this guy in the future he will go to the top

Dont get me wrong i love the holy goalie but after this season and his antics his value has gone down considerably.

Hail Hail

soal

do they even exist anymore? - duty free and airmiles all sound so 90s.

Bonzo67, your point is that Mowbray is a hun, that's what you're trying to say eh?

Eustace p..

What antics?

Craig Gordon £9M

Allan "v sign swalyer" £5M (reported price during his antics if someone wanted to buy him)

And Artur's "antics" have dropped his value to £3M

Add 3 back on for his save against the huns!!

navan bhoy

When Martinez was on the radar i did a lot of research he was looked at to be no 2 at man utd as i said earlier Toomy Doc said swansea played the best football outside of barca a compliment indeed in my opinion he would have been worth the risk

rdk7/bigjie
I watched the team every week during his era. It was painful.Two players we had- Roy and Paul, the rest came out the terracing. Yes they had heart but what was needed was skill

rdk7

We are all entitled to opinions

but international bans wacky goals etc and the fact its the spl impact on value.

Hey don't get me wrong if we get 6m i will be delighted.

I would rather he didnt go but i feel he will leave.

Hail Hail

entouradge

no he is a boro man

johnbay

and this makes him a poor coach ?

bonzo 67

martinez was my first choice also,but that does not mean we should be dissapointed about mogga getting the job,his teams are always entertaining to watch,is this not what we as a support have been crying out for?

come on mate give the guy a chance to show us his vision of how to play the game,i for one am very excited about next season,i cant wait to see what he will do with the likes of mcgeady,mizuno,mccourt,mcginn,brown,no more long balls,more pace,higher tempo,give me some of that.

hail hail

WGS & Zyb

Red Bull Salzburg reporting that Bodnar is definitely leaving and will not play again for them as they could not agree terms on an extension to his contract.
In midweek Marc Janko played 38 mins for Austria v Serbia, hit the woodwork but Austria lost 1-0 after goalkeeper made a mistake and conceded a penalty.
Dont know how Hinkelish sounds but Janko's Wienerisch and Glaswegian should make for interesting conversations!

By pablophanque on June 13, 2009 1:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BdAdRL_2Wo

Ulster-Celt

celtic4orme

The last time i checked i had enough airmiles for a flight from Glasgow to Prestwick.

MC Hammer, Tone Loc, and Vanilla Ice now that was the sound on the 90s.

Love

bonzo67-

Haven't read what PF Ayr & Kingoh said about the new manager,but I guess it would be along the lines of-

He wouldn't be my no.1 choice,
Why have we paid 2m for him?
There are better managers out there.

Don't think they would use the same choice of words as yourself.

Real Celtic supporters will SUPPORT him & the team.

HAIL HAIL

Paul 67

They are preparing the chemicals to make the white smoke!

Lets hope the dream team Mogga, Blue Jeans, and Pointer can hit the ground running. When MON took over Boydie famous comment 'it only needs a few tweaks here and there' and this after a 21 point defecit to Dignity.

Whilst, we may not quite be at that level, lets hope we can have more balance in the team, square pegs in square holes if you like, allied to a 'sargeant-major' like approach to attitude and fitness, and the removal of the complaceny which has inflected the club for the last 2 seasons.

One word on Pointer, is that the media will be lining-up to bait him about what we will do to Dignity, my consel would be for Pointer to keep his own counsel and let the team do the talking on the pitch.

To make his point, big Mogga will need to pick someone out and make a point that it is a new era. In this respect, I would hope to see the following:

- Arthur retained
- Hinky kept
- Heid thanked for his contribution and moved on
- Any competent CB signed who is at least 6' 2" (not Rob Jones)
- Loovems first choice
- Mike relieved of captaincy and second choice
- Naylor made available, Robinson from WBA signed as replacement
- Hartley sold, ball control not good enough for the type of football we should be playing, no left foot
- Crosas holding midfield, summer in the gym should help
- McCarthy signed and played wide right
- Naka sold
- Brown freed up from holding role and allowed to break forward
- AN Other experinced midfielder required,
- JVOH sold, he is 30 and will only get slower
- George sold, cant fit in to a team pattern plays for himself.
- Skippy kept
- Maloney kept but if we get a decent offer sold
- Fletcher Hibs signed
- AN Other big, fast CF signed
- Aiden kept
- McCourt kept
- Mizuno kept
- Flood sold
- Killen sold
- Hutchinson sold

Fairly straightfoward really.

It will take about 6 games to find out if big Mogga has got the hang of this defensive stuff, we are so poor at. I would really like to see the hoops not make it so easy to get crosses in to our box and to never close down at throw ins, it really was so so bad .....we need to try a lot harder when we do not have the ball...MONs teams were good at this..WGS less so.

....anyway change is about to happen, good luck big Mogga, blue jeans , and pointer ....may all your transfer dealings be good ones.

Its a great opportunity for Mogga to put himself on the football map and if he can get some self believe, drive, and confidence on the ball in the chosen 11, then who knows.....but he needs a game strategy that takes into account that for most games the opposition will have 10 men behind the ball (including Dignity)....so lets see the big Mogga adapt to the tic, whilst keeping the back door firmly shut.

IMO Walter will be expecting a wide open tic flicking the ball about with 4-0 wins one week, 1-2 reverses the next, lets get rid of our complaceny and see how Dignity can cope,

HBOS are still doing their sums.....

1iAR

bonzo67

Maybe you will be proved right IF Martinez does a great job at Wigan (If they sort it out and sign him) after all it's all about opinions but i still think that Tony Mowbray is the best option for Celtic right now.
Here's hoping i am right for the sake of Celtic

johnbay

you better not say anything or you will be called a hun just agree with the intelligent ones

bonzo67
You are right Martinez was the boards first choice unfortunatley he was more expensive to get than Mowbray.

navan bhoy

I respect your opinion and i hope we win the treble

Hail Hail

johnbay,

You are obviously in the know re our attempts to get Martinez. Tell us everything - every little detail - don't miss anything out.

johmbay

I feel the board have made the wrong choice but it is all about opinions

First choice second choice it matters not.

Tony Mowbray, a young intelligent coach with epl experience is now our manager. We need to support him.

If the board also support him then we may yet win the league. It wont be easy. The cardigan is a good coach and the best midfield player in scotland is back from injury.

We now need to build a decent team and no more midgets or floods, mcginns or mccourts.

Hail Hail

bonzo67

If that works out, the level of alcohol at next years supporters club AGM will be in no doubt what so ever. Here's hoping!!

Hail Hail

Thank you to everyone emailed me, re following Celtic in the 1940's-60's.

I have sent the questionnaire to you all and look forward to receiving your replies.

Thanks again.
SMB

Dick Byrne
Why? It aint going to happen so lets all get behind TM

100% right.

God bless you all.

- Arthur retained
- Hinky kept
- Heid thanked for his contribution and moved on
- Any competent CB signed who is at least 6' 2" (not Rob Jones)
- Loovems first choice
- Mike relieved of captaincy and second choice
- Naylor made available, Robinson from WBA signed as replacement
- Hartley sold, ball control not good enough for the type of football we should be playing, no left foot
- Crosas holding midfield, summer in the gym should help
- McCarthy signed and played wide right
- Naka sold
- Brown freed up from holding role and allowed to break forward
- AN Other experinced midfielder required,
- JVOH sold, he is 30 and will only get slower
- George sold, cant fit in to a team pattern plays for himself.
- Skippy kept
- Maloney kept but if we get a decent offer sold
- Fletcher Hibs signed
- AN Other big, fast CF signed
- Aiden kept
- McCourt kept
- Mizuno kept
- Flood sold
- Killen sold
- Hutchinson sold

eustace p, i agree artur didnt have his greatest season.

But £3m???

If its crazy time for players lets get 500k for flood, and we will throw in Naylor, JVOH, HArtley & sammi.....ooh hold on, thats a great deal..

EK bhoy my take oon the team would be this.

- Arthur retained
- Hinky kept
- Heid thanked for his contribution and moved on
- Any competent CB signed who is at least 6' 2" (not Rob Jones) who can pass.
- Loovems -nearly as bad as naylor for gettin caught down the channels
- Mike - moved on
- Naylor made available, Robinson from WBA def not signed as replacement
- Hartley sold, ball control not good enough for the type of football we should be playing, no left foot
- Crosas holding midfield, summer in the gym should help
- McCarthy signed and played wide right
- Naka sold
- Brown freed up from holding role and allowed to break forward
- AN Other experinced midfielder required,
- JVOH sold, he is 30 and will only get slower
- George sold, cant fit in to a team pattern plays for himself.
- Skippy kept
- Maloney kept but if we get a decent offer sold
- Fletcher Hibs def not signed
- AN Other fast CF who plays on the shoulder.
- Aiden kept and made the main man, give him the ball and let him do what he wants, the best talent to come out of scotland since John Collins. ( i know he is irish, kinda)
- McCourt kept
- Mizuno kept
- Flood sold/given away at boot sale
- Killen see flood
- Hutchinson sold

Paul67,

The new goal keeping coach??? It isn't Packy is it? Tm coach at WBA is Joe Corrigan who was with Liam Brady at CP. He's retiring at the end of the season.

If i was Mogga, i would look at good coaches like Tony Coton and Raimond Van der Goiu are not tied up just now. The again maybe with two poles in the posiyions we might look to their mentor from their own homeland?

Interesting times ahead big chap. The anticipation and excitment of the new man, new ideas and new signings have got the old Celtic buzz back into this supporter.

Dick Byrne

Johnbay is spot on Martinez was identified before Gordon resigned why did we ask to speak to him before Mowbray he was first choice regardless what they say at the press conference and Martinez was willing to come Celtic wre still trying as late as Monday even when big mouth whelan was saying we have got our man its a pity it did not work out.

Martin42

I say again we gave away a league that was won in December.

I couldn't have put that better myself.

bankiebhoy1

apologies for not getting back to you earlier as I was out and about for the first time this week after contracting the non pig flu earlier in the week.

Anyway. I believe, like everyone on here, you are entitled wholy to your opinion. I also know another couple of CQN'ers who also hold your opinion of Ed firmly.

Apologies if I was coming across all righteous as I a re far from it.

I am sure though that you will, like myself, enjoy the company of Pablo when you meet. Superb bloke.

MWD

EKBhoy

you can`t sell out of contract players

navan bhoy

I will be looking for an invite

Hail Hail

bonzo67

All Tims are welcome at our club, anytime

bonzo67

No 2 at United? That's the kiss of death mate.
Kidd.
Mc Claren
The Portugese guy.

Martinez WAS NOT THE BOARD'S NO1 CHOICE.
Not ever.

He had achieved bugger all in technicolor. Sorry - won promotion form the old Third Division.

Best football outside of Barca?

Bedtime

53

Willo fud should be one of the first out - RObinson would be a great LB

paulantony.

did you like Gordon Strachan?

MWD

Hello all,
Long time lurker first time poster.

Who would you fancy from the west brom side?

I like Chris Brunt and i think James Morrison is a decent wee player too.

Hopefully Mogga is the man to put a bit of fire back in the bellies of the current players, I still think we have a decent squad.
No more signing squad players, we need to sign players ready for the starting 11.

What is with the blog today.

We have not yet appointed a manager but already some are queueing up to slag off the guy, the board and others who disagree with them.

What happened to supporting the new manager once we get rid of Gordon?

As for the so called "confirmed" transfer budget of nil. If you have incontravertible proof, as is always claimed, then spill the beans and name names of source(s). If these sources are so willing to pass on commercially sensitive info like that then they shouldn't be afraid to have their names published to back up the stories they are peddling.

I have a sneaking suspicion that a clean sweep of all domestic and european competitions still wouldn't satisfy some of our "supporters".

Anyway going back to my Chilean Merlot.

Sack the Board, Manager, Scouts and the Tealady too.

Robinson is 30+ whats the point???

he is a bit mental though!!!

johnbay,

Sorry, maybe I misunderstood...from your posts today I thought you had some top level contacts (upper echelons, I think you said) & I was keen to hear the facts from someone like yourself who has the inside track on what's really going on inside the boardroom at Celtic Park.

Now I'm confused because it seems you're reluctant to talk about it. I can see, though, that someone in your position has to be careful about protecting his sources.

Unless, of course, you were just...Nah, you wouldn't have made all that stuff up.

Would you?

Moonbeams,

I am still in a state of shock conceerning the 2nd part of last season.

I probably do not want to know what went wrong, I would then have to make a judgement regarding certain players or coaches or manager,

Like Oldtim, I would then want a degree of retribution and that really is not my way.

Better not to know the real reasons.

Martin.

The Aphex Tim

brilliant name. Window licker.

MWD

Herr Villie

I heard the news about Bodnar but I'm much more excited about Ronald Gercaliu possible transfer. Something says to me that he did not agree for contract extension after initial negotiations with Celtic. I have read few articles where the journalists stated that Celtic was first option for him. Second was Twente Enschede, third PAOK Saloniki.The player kept his mouth closed which meant that he spoke to Celtic. I don't know if you agree with me but since few days there are no news about his new club. Probably he is waiting for new opening from Celtic.
Hinkelish language was a joke. I meant German from Baden-Württemberg which is not different from Wienerisch. Hinkel would be very helpfull for Gercaliu at Celtic. I don't believe Tony Mowbray can take Marek Cech with him. I thought it would be unacceptable for WBA stuff.
I'm happy to hear about Tony Mowbray at Celtic. I don't know much about him but I wish him best luck at home. Some negativity on the blog worries me today.

Dick,

Stop it,

let the man enjoy his fantasies

Martin.

Joey Barton would be a good bet, bit of steel..

owen 10pm

well said sir!

I was begining to think I had entered a parallel universe where the meaning of being supporters & fans was exactly the opposite of that on planet earth.

By Moonbeams wet dream on June 13, 2009 10:04 PM
The Aphex Tim

brilliant name. Window licker.

MWD

is that the one with the fekked up video????

wierd shittttttt!!!!!!!!!

Jings - whit am I like?

I've just read bonzo67's post @ 9.52 & I see it's actually him who's got the skinny on the board's shambolic search for a new Manager.

So go on bonzo67, tell us all about it - every little detail, please. As I said to johnbay, don't leave anything out. Not even the punctuation.

Navan bhoy

Thanks appreciated as i have been getting called a hun all day

Hail Hail

The only steel anyway connected with Joey Barton are the handcuffs he is usually led away in. Now go away and play with something explosive you wingnut.

cardiffbhoy at 9:24, thanks very much. Appreciate that.

Entouradge @ 4:30

for you.

Halleluja

MWD

Dick Byrne
No it wasnt made up if Steve Bruce had nt signed for Sunderland we would have had Roberto. Just look at the betting pattern last Monday from 40/1 to 1/1. Not just my money!!!!!

Barton and Brown would be a great midfield.

Following EKBhoy's post lets assess the squad against out manager's type of football

1 - The must keeps

Scott Brown - Potentially given a freer role and can thrive, but need to really improve his passing. He won POTY in Gordon's role not his Hibs role
Aiden - Hopefully will flourish and may even be given free role behind strikers
Skippy - Only proven goalscorer so keep for next year then reassess
Hinkel - Starting to really flourish and will fit into tony's type of team. Also proving it in big games
Crosas - Worth another year
Naka - Love to see him stay but concede unlikely

2 - The keep but sell if a decent offer comes in

Boruc - World class when on form but over £7m should be taken. Bad for team harmony at times
Robson - Wrong age and if we receive money back i would sell
Maloney - Injury prone, doubtful he would move again
Loovens - Done nothing to suggest he is capable and any money back offer should be accepted, however with a run of games may improve
McManus - Unlikely to happen tho
Caddis - Not set anything on fire at DU, any decent offer should be considered
Flood - Potential profit to be made
Donati - Would not be devestated if he stayed, needs his confidence built up and tony could bring out best in him

3 - Sell, Sell, Sell

Samaras - Doubt he will ever be consistent
Wilson - So injury prone it is laughable, also average player
Kennedy - see above
Naylor - Heart not in it, time to go
Killen - don't be fooled by his one decent season at hibs, offload
Mark Brown - Never looked like cutting it

4 - Worth a 6 month retention

Paddy - Dynamite in reserves if he completes a full pre-season without breaking down who knows
Mizuno - Need those japanese punters
O'Dea - make or break time

Release

Hartley, Doumbe, Jan, Bobo,

Just my thoughts.

Key players needed

1 - A striker with pace
2 - A creative midfielder - Wonder if he may try and bring Valero at a knock down fee
3 - A left back like Hinkel - not Paul Robinson
4 - A CB with some pace

Evening all,

had a very very busy day. Has the big fella signed then or just at the tickly bit??

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

antsman,

i actually agree with every single one of your judgements..

spot on mate

johnbay,

I can't pretend I'm not disappointed - not quite the incontrovertible proof I was looking for.

Still, I'm sure bonzo67 won't let me down.

Dick Byrne

The board have been trying but its all down to money they do not want to go into debt and they will not be paying wba anywhere near 2m mowbray was the cheapest option they could not compete with wigan on the financial front but i still hold out hope that they will have second thoughts you never know its not over till its over.

Just back from the town.

On my way back I noticed black smoke emerging from the East End, does that mean it has been confirmed?

Nah just another deep fried mars bar going up !

Dick Byrne
I will leave it to Bonzo67 he is obviously in the know

bozo67,

Hmmm...

Yes...

I'm with you...

I see...

But how do you know that? In as much as any of us can ever truly know anything, of course.

Names, facts & full stops, please.

rdk7 @8.47pm

Agree entirely.

My first dog I got when I was an adult (?) was a wee border collie that I named Fergal Spot Peter Grant. It was the days of the Young Ones on the telly and Vivian had his Glaswegian pet called SPG. I got ma dug fae Yoker and he had a spot on his nose so hence, Spot Peter Grant, with Fergal being his Sunday name. So a few months later I meet the legend that is the Pointmeister and I tell him that I've named ma dug after him. He pissed himself laughin, bought me ap int and sang Celtic songs together into the wee small hours...circa 1986

EN

That was the first heating of the pies for next season.

I hear our Chairman was on a flight down to heathrow this afternoon. Wonder if it was football related? If it was he wouldn't divulge.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Absolutely gutted, I despair at times I really do, some decisions make me wonder at times.

I really need to resist betting on horse tips.

001

Hope all is well and you didnt go too serious on it, give me a shout when you want to buy me that pint..

EN

TTT

No doubt it will be claimed back through his expenses.

Dick Byrne

I am sorry i cant name names all i can say is the facts are there who did we ask to speak to first? Martinez not coyle not Mowbray

The Spirit of Arthur Lee

When did they start heating the pies?

EN

Celtic fans infiltrate hun sites and some huns come on here pretending to be one of us.

The poster, Peter Grant (NOT to be confused with TLOPG), must be amongst the thickest because he keeps coming back here, convinced in his own mind that his disguise remains intact.

I'd say 2 more have appeared on here tonight backing each other up. Tiresome but, up till now,par for the course.

I, therefore, hesitate to ask one very hard question of the poster, bonzo67 but feel I must.

You have been asserting that you cannot be an infiltrator because your son was a mascot for the Home game against Dundee Utd. Yet, in the previous thread, you were stating that you could not be a hun because you were kano's cousin.

Now, surely being kano's cousin is good enough to vouch for your credentials. What surprises me is that, on your first appearance on CQN, you have launched into an attack on all things Celtic and not said a word about your cousin. There's much more important things in this world than TM's possible appointment. Would you not want to say more about your cousin? I cannot imagine any hun I'd ever met would sink so low as to use your cousin's name in impersonation so your credentials can be easily established and you can move on to debate fully.

EN

When you were passing by.

bozo,

Facts, you say? Facts?

How do you know we asked to speak to Martinez first?

Please don't tell me you read it in the papers.

Bonzo67
Dont sit on the fence come clean

Antsman,

pretty much agree with most of that.

my only point of contention is Loovens.

the bhoy has pace like no other CB we have and is able to attack the ball in the air like no other CB we have. Like the look of him in CB towards end of season. Don't get where you are coming from on that one.

MWD

Old Tim

Sorry to hear about you unfortunate collision with your furniture, I certainly hope you recover, I know for sure the furniture never will. The players let themselves down, let their Manager down, and ultimately let us, the supporters down. Some of of them will not play for Celtic again. Boruc must stay, his game was pretty much back in the latter part of the season, Poland are in a good position to at least reach the World Cup play offs, hopefully at the expense of the despicable Northern Ireland. That will give Arthur focus for the season ahead. A new Centerback is needed to support Loovens, with Misun as a support. A younger left back is needed, Mulgrew or Wallace seem to know the position. No shortage of midfield players, Fletcher to come in and someone who divides this forum, but who could do really well at Celtic Park, Dubliner Anthony Stokes!

TTT

he's away back to pay back all those expenses he has claimed over the last 4 years.

MWD

Dick Byrne

Paul67 help me out here you know that they went for Martinez i think Dick will believe you before me and i dont read the papers too many hun reporters

Peter Grant

please leave us alone

Well as it appears the big fella is the Anointed One I shall break my silence on the matter.

He wasn't my first choice, to be honest I don't know who would have been my 1st choice, but I am fairly pleased with Tony getting the nod.

He obviously tries to have his team playing football and lets be honest over the last 2 season's esp. the last one, one of the biggest complaints by our support was the lack of any football or even attempt to play good football. Here's hoping that will be consigned to the past. For that reason alone big Tony should be welcomed by the majority of the support.

He is welcomed by the is Celtic supporter for one anyway.

In addition he comes across well on TV, but as we know from his playing days, when he took no prisoners on the pitch, I am sure he has a cold, calculating side to his nature as well.

I happened to meet him and share his lift into Celtic Park the night before he signed for us as a player. He was genuinely proud at coming to play for us and we all know how much he enjoyed his time with us, albeit he won nothing and he was obviously enamoured with us, the support, as his subsequent statements showed.
The man was a total gent that night, considering he didn't know me or my mates from Adam.

WELCOME BACK TO PARADISE BIG MOGGA!!!

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Paul67 or somebody,

Going to tell me how the feck somebody can write that?

http://www.sundayherald.com/sport/shfootball/display.var.2514237.0.payout_will_cut_mowbrays_budget.php

No manager has been offically announced plus how the in god's name would Micheal Grant know.

soal

the nineties were indeed hip hops golden decade

it was always fewer airmiles to fly from london to amsterdam than glasgow. never made any sense to me that.

SFTB

BOZO 67 was rumbled as early as 3 pm today.

He is a six county hun who snipes at all things Celtic on the Betfair football and Irish Sports forums, and is thick enough to come on here with the same username and try to pass himself off as a Celtic man.

I was reluctant to raise the issue you have regarding his cousin for fear of offending those close to the man and his family/friends. However it is notable that no-one from that group of people have come on to vouch for him.

And another thing. If Bozo67's boy was the mascot v Dundee U then Moses was a test pilot and John the Baptist drove the 61 bus to Tollcross (c. B Hitler, 1980s).

He has spent all night complaining that people have all day been calling him a Hun.

You know he's a Hun, I know he's a Hun and HE KNOWS HE'S A HUN.

Quite clearly we all have our own opinions on the worth of current playing staff.
Who would have thought Martin O'Neill would have kept Bobby Petta?

WGS

your right, how would he know. so why get annoyed?

don't read the papers, they make it all up.

Ulster-Celt

Evening

Main target for new manager has to be a proven goalscorer.

Our inability to score goals at times last year was desperate and the main reason why we lost the league.

A new left back in any shape or form is an obvious neccessity and we'll miss Naka's creativity but I still feel the core of the current squad should have enough to win the league back.

So have the hunterlopers been on as its look like we have got our man then???

Running scared already huns???

We'll have our title back next season of that you can be sure!

Jog On ya half-wits.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

bonzo67

Your response to my enquiry and squire danaher's views?

Another day, another hunfiltrator. As well as the unwelcome return of the poster sullying Peter Grant's good name.

Don't make the mistake of trying to debate with these people. They are simply not capable of the standard of intelligent debate that most regular posters maintain on this fine site.

And they simply crave the attention of other posters. Just ignore them and they will get quickly bored, then leave us alone.

WGS

summation /conjecture/assumption

crap lazy journalism ......he kens as much as we do

squire danaher

I will vouch for Bonzo 67. He is indeed related to kano and his son was indeed a mascot at the game he mentioned.

I am sure Paul67 can vouch for the fact that I have been a member of this site for many years if nobody else cares to.

Moses a test pilot eh? Never knew that!

rdk7

just for you

Aphex Twin - Window Licker

brilliant group with very warped sense of humour.

MWD

Hi all,

Good news that Tony Mowbray is nearly all but signed. Loved the letter that someone posted earlier. Someone also mentioned the fact that Tony Mowbray and Peter Grant both played during a very lean spell in the 90's so I think they would restore a bit of passion and pride to the team. I felt that Gordon Strachan spent his 4 years weeding out the characters and strong willed players(luckily McGeady wouldn't go away), unfortunately when we needed a few winners in those last games none were to be found. Looking forward to a new Chapter in the club's history, which has a strange Back to the Future ring to it.

For some reason every time I think of Tony Mowbray it reminds me of the "Peoples Ford" hoops jersey. I remember the controversy in our house in toomebridge Co. antrim when we heard the Celtic Jersey would not have CR SMITH on it.

Regarding Peter Grant - When I was a kid starting to travel over to watch the hoops. Paul McStay used to make me say "WOW" and "pure Class", Peter Grant always me "ROAR" and shout "COME ON CELTIC". Most fans have dreamed of playing in the hoops, some fans have been lucky enough to realise that dream.

has Naka definitely left us then???

I have read more than a few posters on here and elsewhere stating it almost as fact.

Can someone please confirm this or otherwise for me please?

I have not read it on the fishul webby so.......

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

setting free the bears

as far as kano is concerned i was with his dad( my uncle) at a family wedding last week and we spoke at great length about MARTIN i did not want to bring this up but i was being attacked from all sides and accused of being a hun i am sure you would retaliate to that one and yes there are more important things than tm as manager and if you knew me better family come first what i will say in my opinion tm is not the man to take us forward i was wanting Martinez because it would have been a fresh approach but it is not to be. That does not stop me from wanting The tic to do well i just feel it is a backward step.
I hope you can respect my view.
God bless Kano

Gordon_J

would loved to have made next Sat but unfortunately I have aBBQ at mini MWD's school from 3PM.

MWD

Kingoh

Thanks

bonzo67
I know who the mascot that night was- it was Kingho*s nephew.
Are you really who the squire says you are.
Come on defend yourself

Moonbeams wet dream

Great tune, the freekiest music video Ive seen, cant watch it.

But listened to the first few minutes...

EN

bonzo67

Dont worry we have all been called huns by the gentlemens club at one stage or another.

We all have views would be boring if we all thought the same.

Hail Hail

johnbay

You know who i am and i know you are pished being stuck in the tent with all your hun friends

Cant believe the reaction that some people on here regarding Peter Grant's possible return to Celtic.On the day when it looks like we have our new manager.

Disgracefull behaviour.

Welcome back Tony!

Hopefully Granty too.

Surely Celtic minded enough!

bonzo67

I'm sure Martin's dad would vouch for any family member and be able to back you up.

You'd have to be some sort of irredeemable low life scum to come on with that as a cover story. I know Norn Ireland huns can be scummier than our own home grown variety but you'd hope that nobody would be that low.

Are you based in West of Scotland? Some posters are doing a lot of fund raising here. A family acquaintance would be welcome.

Would you post a few words about the kano you know for those guys.

Gordon_J,

As per MWD's post, sorry I cannot make it next sat afternoon.

I have a do on a Celtic Park on Sat night as I shall be away on business tomorrow until Thursday Mrs Token is unhappy enough as it is that I am out next Sat night as well, that to even consider mentioning going out Sat afternoon too would probably see me being seriously injured :-)

Hope it is both a successful and enjoyable afternoon.

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

bonzo67

If you are a Celtic supporter, I wouldn't like to meet a genuine hunfiltraitor!

Eustace p merryweather

I thought i was parsnoid thanks for your post i am feeling sane again

The Token Tim @ 10.36

Bet you made Mogga pay for the taxi ya cheap sod

MWd-Thankyou!;-)))

i thik today must have set a record for walter mitty's, fantasists, the deluded who are connected to the upper echelons, and one post which was true comic genius as one of these new arrivistes confused themselves over whether they had spelled (sic) thing right in their rush to share the thoughts of a high heid yin with us...as they muted earlier.....genius....chic murray must be birling in his grave

one final thought...anyone else think that the mutual appreciation society that is bozo,johnbay and navan, might not be 3 seperate people...in fact they might not even be 2

Moonbeams wet dream

He could not get in the team is my starting point. He does not appear to be a particularly proficient passer and i think he is fairly slow, hence why i think we need a quicker CB. I of course am not necessarily right, but i would take money back on him. He just has not shown anything that makes me think he should be in the team other than he is not Stephen McManus

I would love to see Naka under TM style of play. I think he would be playing more centrally like a playmaker. I also think that Koki and Paddy might revel under TM as well.

My mother liked Peter Grant. She saw him standing on the head of a Rapid Vienna player in 1984 and took to him right away. That aside, she was a good judge when it came to identifying players who played for the Celtic jersey. Grant, Paul McStay and of course Tommy Burns who lived along the road from us.

I will be delighted if Peter Grant returns to Celtic Park.

Tony Mowbury was not my first choice. I would have preferred Roy Keane or David Moyes. We were too late for the former and not in the running for the latter. The reason I wanted either of those was the same as why TM was not my first choice and the same as why I never supported the play the footballers line at the end of last season ie the kick and clugg nature of Scottish football.

I hope Tony Mowbury will set his team out to entertain. I'm sure he will. More than that though, I hope he sets out his teams to win first and foremost. Away from home in the SPL means players who can look after themselves and lend physical support to the more skillful individuals. Referees generally allow the opposition away with murder in these type of games. Venues such as Tynecastle, Tannadice and Ibrox require battles to be won, not only in midfield but all over the park.

It would be great if we could overcome these type of conditions by sheer football alone. To do so would require a higher level of player than what we currently possess unfortunately.

The good thing about the appointment (when/if it happens) is that the Big Fellow played for Celtic when Rangers used to wipe the floor with us. That type of feeling remains with a person. The Lions had years of it before Stein. Then they appreciated what it meant to beat the huns and how they lapped it up !

Looking forward to the new season.

Fine Girl Y'Ar.

hang the dj,

didny need to mucker, but I did have a comp for the game that night :-)

HAIL! HAIL!
Token

Moonbeams wet dream & The Token Tim,

Thanks for your support. I'll keep everyone up to date on everything we come up with.

squire danaher

Do you still stand by your post at 10.41 or would you like to do the decent thing of a CQNer and offer an apology to Bonzo.

It appears he has chosen an unfortunate username.

Or does the fact that he holds a different opinion from you make him a hun?

Martin42

no matter what Ed thinks about how much more rubbisher we were because his mob of bigoted Orc trash won the league. it still makes me sick knowing that that pile of urine won it by default due to our inept performances.

If I were to find out some of the bhoys throw the towel in I would run them out of town Clint Eastwood style.

Peter Grant (the hunfiltrator)- fancy a wee meet.

BB or the Louden Tavern?

I am meeting TTT soon in the ML2's. Fancy coming along. You are more than welcome. Bring your Celtic credentials.

I love you even though your Ma and Da don't.

MWD

MWD thanks for that video.

Bring on the nightmares...

Barcabhoy, continually impressed by your posts

The Token Tim

So you're going to the do next Saturday night, nice 1, you're on the bell 1st

Bonzo67

Am I missing something here?
Roberto Martinez wanted to come, we wanted him, the compensation is the same as for TM - but "it didn't work out"

Don't know about people smelling huns - but I sure can smell a load of horseshit!!!

What's the problem - lost a few quid at the bookies????

Pinner_bhoy - Tony Mowbray wouldn't have been my first choice as Celtic manager, but the more I think about it, the more I'm looking forward to the exciting, attacking, cavalier Celtic team I'm sure he will create.

I'm delighted to see Peter Grant back at Celtic Park. Maybe it's nostalgia for a more innocent time but I look back on the days when he partnered the Maestro in our midfield with great fondness. As a little boy at St. Augustine's primary I remember the time we all rushed across the road for the scramble when he got married at the church associated with our school. We didn't enjoy great success when Mogga and Grant played for our club, so it will certainly be cathartic to see them win the league and wipe the smile off Walter Smith's coupon.

We didn't deserve to win the league this season, the players seemed to lack passion and commitment in the second half of the season. That won't be an issue with the new fellas in charge. With Rangers being forced to hawk their players around the Championship despite winning the league and guaranteed CL income, we have an excellent chance of rounding off this decade as champions once again.

I can't wait to see the new management team in charge and some new players to come in and continue the marvellous traditions of Celtic.

Hail Hail.

Yes please.

By Kenny MacDonald, 13/06/2009
Mogga after Valero
MOWBRAY SO SURE HE'D GET CELTS JOB HE'S AFTER PLAYERS ALREADY
TONY MOWBRAY was so sure he would land the Celtic job he was planning targets and tactics before a deal had been agreed with West Brom.

Sport of the World understands Mogga wants to return to the Hawthorns for £3million-rated Spanish midfielder Borja Valero.

He wants him to link with countryman Marc Crosas, below, in central midfield.

Mowbray sees Crosas and Valero, right, playing together, with Scott Brown in the more advanced role he thrived in under his old manager at Easter Road