Double Tennent's

We are Celtic supporters, faithful through and through...

Keep the faith!

KTF

Hat-trick?

up tha celts ... KEEP THE FAITH

podium?

Not even close.....fail.

hello

Terrible deal

Where did my second post go?!

Top 10?

no no no no

ohhhhhhhhhhh so close

Wonder if Tennents will acquire a charitable outlook? If they read CQN they will know that they need to do something!

Just think what we’d be capable of if we replaced Tony Mowbray with Walter Smith!

Whats the official line? Are you a hun if you support the deal or reject it?

damnedifyoudodamnedifyoudontCSC

Auldheid from previous

I too am wondering why Rangers never seem to struggle against the other teams like we do. Why is this?

Teams are super motivated against us. This is understandable. However, a large amount of their players are from a Celtic minded background or else from abroad so they should also be motivated against our rivals.

One could say that the managers of these teams may not prepare them properly against TFOD. However, last night’s match was a typical example of a Rangers game where they won quite easily. I don’t believe St Johnstone, as a club weren’t trying to get to their first final in years.

My feeling is that a lot of these teams are beaten before they start against TFOD. They know they’re in for a nasty brutish experience quite often – see McCulloch and Lafferty. In contrast, they see us a soft touch and can go flying into tackles or play football if they desire. Their crowds are probably more against us than Rangers, as well.

I can’t explain the difference in goalkeeping performances other than we apply more pressure so that the keeper is involved a lot more and doesn’t have time to get nervous.
That’s it, I suppose. I don’t really see a lying-down conspiracy.

BigChipsUK

With this new blog set-up we'll likely see a

"Surely Not?"

At around 8pm tonight....

kitalba

from previos post.....i agree wholeheartedly with you....well said

Agggghhhhhh! I’m so frustrated after reading the Walter Smith interview about Rangers having “dark days” in the summer even if they win the treble. So if they are friar tucked even if they win the league 2 seasons on the trot – imagine the mess they’d be in if they hadn’t won last year and weren’t on course to win this year?

I can’t believe how the incompetence of EVERYONE at Celtic (Board, manager and players) has let them off the hook. You’d almost be inclined to believe there is a conspiracy about keeping Rangers alive….

Tennet's Paul?

Árd Macha

Herodotus, what is the relevance of your poll? Can't you tell how people are feeling just by reading their posts...? Do you need to see it as a statistic.....? or is it simply a case of it makes you feel important? Pfft!

Iam sure we could have found a better deal than what Tennants have offered.We are always getting told by liewell
that we are a global brand. if so they must be other sponsors battering our door down.

Guys,
Saying you think the League is over doesn't make you a loser, it's just logical. The blatant facts are there for all to see and if we do it I will celebrate it like all other fan's. I'd be happy to be told, told you so by one and all but let's be realistic. If we win 13 and draw 2, that would me athey have to drop 15 points because of the goal difference. I will keep the faith but I am realistic. There's nothing wrong with that.

Celtic have a lot of fans from Catholic backgrounds - FACT
Celtic was founded by a Catholic - FACT
Being proud of both facts does not make you a bigot - FACT
Being proud of both facts and not being a bigot - MAKES YOU A GOOD CHRISTIAN

I repeat being a proud Catholic does not mean you hate/despise other religions. As a Catholic and a Celtic fan I am proud of the fact that many of our graeatest Celts were from other religions.
However I am also proud of the role that people of my faith have played at our great club.

If Celtic has nothing to do with Irishness or Catholicism - why do you think the two Keanes signed?

Hail Hail

By fairtrade on February 4, 2010 12:06 PM

Do you ask that about all the other polls on this site? No, didnt think so,

jumponthebandwagonCSC

Herodotus last post,... NO and another big NO. Can't believe you posted that.

Living the Dream,..... Until the final whistle.

Surely not?

Árd Macha, opps! I’m on a roll.

Paul,

’Celtic have to be sharper than their immediate rivals, partnering with them in this way is self-defeating on at least one level.’

Got to agree, apart from the cash – that I feel could have been raised on a different deal – there is little upside to this partnership!

I was curious when i read the press releases from Celtic & R@ngers
Celtic described it as a ‘Shirt’ sponsorship

&

R@ngers described it as a ‘Club & Shirt’ sponsorship

Can you enlighten me

Is the deal the same for both Clubs?

AND

Is it a 50/50 split?

Hail! Hail!

We missed a major opportunity to generate cash AND solve a big part of our problems.

We should have sold McGeady for EIGHT MILLION POUNDS.

By henkestongue1969 on February 4, 2010 12:07 PM

Good point.

Provincial buys Global

Herodotus, didn't see the negativity in the other polls, just a bit of fun...However, I have made my point and I shall move on.

A response for Larry.bhoy on febuary 3, 2010 8:40 PM

lurking from the mineshaft...... @ 6:29pm
Great run of games, but.... I need stats !
What were the teams ?Who scored
?Possession ?
Attempts on target ?
Penalties... missed ?
How did the Huns get on ?
I need to know ! Now !Or whenever, but just tell me
Cheers
07/02/2010 Dumfermline A scottish cup win 0-2  Keane Raasmussen 55%
10/02/2010 Hearts H win 1-2 nervy Ki Keane 51%
13/02/2010 Aberdeen A win 0-2 good showing Raasmussen Kamara 54%
20/02/2010 Dundee United H win 3-1 better KEANE (2) Ki 53%
28/02/2010 Rangers A 1-2 closer than cp by a long way Keane Raasmussen at the death! 50%
07/03/2010 Falkirk A win 0-3 good win Raasmussen (2) Fortune 57%
20/03/2010 St. Johnstone H win 4-0 good win KEANE (3) McGeady 62%
24/03/2010 St. Mirren A win 1-2 nervy RAASMUSSEN (2) 50%
27/03/2010 Kilmarnock H win 0-5 revenge KEANE (2) RAASMUSSEN (2) Kamara 65%
03/04/2010 Hibernian A 0-2 hard fought Kamara Fortune 51%
10/04/2010 Motherwell H win 3-0 good win KEANE (2) Brown 60%
Penalties HAHAHAHA!! We have had all of the penalties we are going to get!
Huns drop points at home to Aberdeen ( draw )Hibs (draw) Defeated at Bigotdome by Celtic
Lose away to Celtic, Hearts & Hibs, Draw at Motherwell and Dundee Utd.
They drop a total of 18 points in the run in
we don'tWe win the league
Simples!Happy Days!!
Towels get retrieved, Season tickets purchased,
Mowbray Sainted, Still no one buys the football tops with Tennants on them,
Jobs a good 'un!

Nite Nite from OZ

away2mabedCSC

pol1888 (12.04pm), I see what you mean!

GM (12.12pm), and we could have bought Rangers with the proceeds... then wound them up and sold all their assets.

Disgusted Celtic. Not another penny.

Celtic fans on the Board? Ha Ha Ha.

A straight question Bhoys!
Do any of you Bhoys, Ghirls see us pulling back 10 points!
With the way we are playing just now?
Im not a happy clapper, and do believe we will click at some stage this season!
But we really needed them 3 points to keep in there!

Westy1888

Bhoybhoywalter 12:08pm

Proud of every bit of our clubs history including the two facts you list, Im not a christian never mind a good one. Thats the problem with generalising things, it doesnt always work.

For the record I think the two keanes were signed because they are very good football players, crazy idea I know but Im just a football fan. Why do you think we signed them?

EN

No comment from me on this subject as I will be in breach of my positive vibe declaration especially if I was to respond to lubo1977 above.

Lets hope we start to see more commanding displays coupled with an increasing Ibrox injury list.

Due to the present hun financial outlook. I cant see BTM been given the bullet if we win nowt this year. Which is fair enough. In fact I predicted this last summer.

Will T in the Park this summer become a blood bath if we win the SPL ?

Hail Hail

Maybe everyone should stop having a go at each other, and stop coming up with reasons why people are crap celtic fans, spineless cowards blah blah.

Whether someone is positive or negative makes no difference it doesnt make them a hun, coward or anything else. Im not going to fight with anyone, or name anyone but Im pretty despondent about this season and I have the right to say so.

Biggest reason people are getting annoyed this year is because we are holding all the cards and not using them well at all. No one can tell me its acceptable to be 10 points behind a team that is bankrupt and has no money to spend, that we cant beat Kilmarnock, Falkirk etc etc

What do I think? Past thinking now to be honest, been up and down so much this month dont know what to think anymore. Does TB stay, does he go? Again dont care anymore, I remain to be convinced now.

Before I am assualted as spineless, happy clapper, hun etc I have paid over £800 on tickets and merchandise this season alone, rolled up to watch in person the shameful displays against Falkirk, Hibs and Kilmarnock (take it from me being there made it hurt far more) and am now needing convinced I shoukld spend my time going again this season.

No more false dawns, or false hope. Tony and the team need to show us something now, something big. Will humping dunfermline get me out of house to go and use season ticket on wednesday, nope need to see a bit more than that. As the Who said 'Wont get fooled again'

Lurking from a Mineshaft whilst Clapping Happily @12:13

I've just logged on to coincidentally catch this as latest post....

Brilliant ! Job is indeed a good 'un :-)

Looking forward to it,

Hail Hail

Lurking @ 12.13:

10 goals for RaRa and 12 for Keano? I'll take that.

Can't see TFOD dropping that many though.

Don't like Tennents much, although I don't want to bhoycott T in the Park..

Paul67

I have deliberately waited two night's sleeps (or lack thereof) following the Kilmarnock match, before posting.

Goes without saying I want the management team of Tony, Mark and Peter to work out - I don't think anyone outside the Grant family was as happy as me to have Peter back home - but the following statistics worry me greatly.

In the SPL we have secured:

11 out of the last 24 points available.

21 out of the last 39 points available.

28 out of the last 51 points available.

Upon being told this I had to check it (twice) myself to be sure.

As the independent accountants who will one day sort out the mess across the city might say: "The numbers don't lie, son"...

Worried CSC

TLOPG

Westy1888 I am certain it can be pulled back Rangers this season have not as yet hit a bad patch as most teams do and I believe they will as well.Celtic second half of the season are a different team than the one who played the first half.Once they have had some time on the training ground to get to know each other im sure they will start scoreing the goals there outfield play deserves and haul Rangers back. Hail,Hail

Of course the title race is NOT over.

Two years ago Rangers were a 'CERTAINTY' to win.
They Lost.
Last season Celtic were a 'CERTAINTY' to win.
We lost.

NOTHING is a certainty,...until it is achieved.
__

The Tennents deal is SICKENING.

Paul

Celtic are often accused of treating fans like customers, inaccurately in my view, but perhaps use of a customer focus group on this occasion would have averted some dissatisfaction.

I think this would have been a good idea. This blog may not be representative of the Celtic support as a whole but from reading the postings since this deal was first mooted, it's clear the vast majority of these posters didn't want the deal and would have been content to sacrafice the £1.5m per year. In fact over 4000 signed an online petition against this deal.

There is no getting out of this now, it's been signed for 3 years but we as a support need to ensure that such a deal doesn't happen again. A motion at the next AGM (and subsequent ones) should be the first thing we do to bring our dissatisfaction to the board. It's not enough to just say we don't want a joint sponsorship deal with Rangers, we need alternatives if the board are going to listen.

The first thing I thought off was a return to our charitable roots. Each supporter could be asked to donate £30 a year to the Celtic Charity Fund with half the money going to the charity and the other half going to the team (in terms of sponsorship money). 100,000 supporters signing up to this would generate the £1.5m Tennents have agreed to provide.

That is just one option, I know money is tight but the club may lose more in loss of merchandise sales by agreeing to this deal. I know there are a lot of fans who won't buy any Tennents branded merchandise and I have always bought from the official shop because as you said 5 years ago, the money all goes to Celtic, I won't think twice now about getting any Celtic stuff I want from unofficial sources. That may also extend to how I watch the games.

C67 have just launched a Premium service for UK viewers and on Tuesday I was all set to upgrade but why should I give my money to the club when they don't even seem to care what we think.

I understand there wasn't much fuss about previous "joint" deals but things have changed now and if we want to progress to be a big player in European football. we shouldn't be associated with a club who cause trouble where-ever they go. I bet Carling were delighted to see their logo on crimewatch.

Hail Hail

Mort

I'll tell you what a HUN is... somebody who publicly professes on a Celtic board how he wants Celtic to lose their next game in the Cup and then goes on to post a sick perverted plea for associated support of just such an outcome so his narcissistic desire to see a man lose his livelihood is fulfilled.

And if we do sack Tony Mowbray, what manager worth his integrity is going to really want the job?

We are, not what we profess we are, we are… what we do.

Get those gloves of Tony, get stuck into that dressing room, get stuck into the press, and please, for the love of our club and our heritage… the next time a referee cheats us on the field… speak out about it. Do it with honesty from the heart. Do it live; do it live in the after match interview with SKY. SKY and Robbie Keane will take it to the world.

Set out your table so that every player… every Supporter… every journalist… every referee… every single stinking detractor of Celtic Football Club… all the slime without exclusion… knows where you are coming from. And if it does not work out… so be it, but Tony, you will have gone out a fighter, you’ll go out with adulation ringing in your ears, you’ll go out knowing you gave it your best shot; MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL… you will go out with your pride intact. You will be the same proud man that walked into the job and pulled on the Celtic Jersey all those years ago.

But chin up Tony, when you bring the Celtic down to Brisbane next close season, you can buy me a pint and I’ll buy you one back and me and you and Mr. O’Dea can sing a song of how much we hate the huns and how well we’ll fare in 2010/2011.

Get away from the misery Tony… Get Angry. Get a midfield with aggression. This is your time… our league.

Estadio Nacional (sorry didn't mean to infer that being Christian was any better than being non Christian - was trying to make the point that being proud of your religious heritage does not make you a hater of those of other religions).

My point about the Keanes was that (IMHO) they would not have come to the SPHell were it not for an emotional bond that Irish people have with the club. That bond is based on the heritage of the club. While only part of that heritage (Ireland and the Catholic faith have played a positive role in Celtic's history - and I don't mean as a reason to hate others).

From the last thread

BigChipsUK on February 4, 2010 11:47 AM

You say the huns are quite good, fair enough, personally I think they are rank rotten. I know they are 10 points clear and in a cup final.
Only and I mean only, because they get every single dodgy decision that is going, from 50/50 tackles to offside goals, everything that is going, I know that may sound biased but that is how I see it.

You ask where are Celtic, we are in a transition period big man keep the faith, the huns have been together for nearly 2 years once we gel we will be back.

Hail Hail

Why are some people objecting to Herodotus's wee poll? There was a similar poll last week and nobody objected then. Is it because the results are now a bit different?

Auldheid (from previous thread)
The anomaly or incongruity you refer to is partly the result of bad luck (dodgy refereeing), but it's really down to Rangers' ability to get results in the SPL environment even though they are very ordinary.

They were shown up in Europe - and while we "praise" Smith for his record in the SPL we should not forget his abysmal record in Europe. Rangers were humiliated by a village team from Romania, and they were very comfortably beaten by a Stuttgart team that was in crisis and came over here on a run of 11 games without a win.

Amazingly, Rangers found their best form immediately after going out of Europe. To any other team the disappointment of going out of Europe would have dented morale. Not them. It's as if they know they aren't good enough to play against teams with superior skills in games with proper referees.

They relish the SPL. Because Smith knows what is required there. He is not interested in playing attractive football, and why should he be? Look at his midfield last night: Davis, McCulloch, Thomson and Fleck. Davis is a decent player, the others just offer the ability to chase and tackle (and foul) and, in Elbows' case, to shoot as well.

Compare Celtic's midfield. It can be nice to watch, but ..... That's one of the reasons for the mess we're in. Over to Mr Mowbray (or preferably, his successor).

Steins a legend

I have the faith! but dont know when we will click!
I hope we havent left it too late!
We play the same teams as the Huns! but they always look stronger against us! Lol
I think we have the right man for the job! BTM!
We just have to click! and the supporters to be on his side!

Westy1888

Paul67 - Also, Carling is much better than Tennants.

Carling is made from all natural ingredients and isn't all chemically and headache inducing like other lagers.

Tennents is made in the same way as Red Tick Beer from The Simpsons.

(thumbsup)

bhoybhoywalter - "didn't mean to infer that being Christian was any better than being non Christian"

It is though. (thumbsup)

My disappointment on this sponsorship is that it's a drinks company. The fact that they also sponsor Rangers isn't a concern for me. There is clearly a problem with the behaviour of many Rangers fans, but we're not guilty by association. Others may try and lump us together but this would be the case if we shared sponsors or not.

Also, Tennents sponsors that annual ned-fest, T in the Park.

Now, I wouldn't object to gathering together every ned in Scotland for the purposes of building a moat around them and declaring them the independent state of Nedidonia, but that doesn't seem to be their plan. (thumbsup)

Westy 1888 I agree with what you say.I cant believe how many fair weather supporters on CQN where have the Fighting Irish gone ? Hail,Hail

kitalba

I presume you were against the sacking of John Barnes?

You are right about the things Tony Mowbrary SHOULD do, like speaking out when referees and linesmen cheat us, but you know very well he WON'T do it.

You ask what manager of integrity would want the job if Tony is sacked. This seems a trifle naive. Football managers are sacked all the time (and are well compensated). Is it only managers without integrity who jump at the resulting job opportunity? Does Gordon Strachen lack integrity for taking the Middlesboro job after the sacking of Southgate? Get real.

Paul

Can only assume it was the best if not only deal on the table. It does appear the type of companies interested in sponsering Celtic also have more than a passing interest in the social fabric of scottish society and therefore dont wish to alienate one particulur part of the community ( I wonder if McEwans felt an impact )

Does anyone know what happened to Skol lager??

SMD

kitalba on February 4, 2010 12:01 PM

He is a Hun (or at best an attention seeker).He is consistently negative and posts 100% derogatory remarks on all things Celtic.Read back to this mornings posts even, this guy is no friend of Celtic.He has just posted he wouldn't give a toss if Celtic lost on at the weekend

His name translates as "father of lies", says it all .He has now started a poll on whether the manger must go .(A regular occurrence on FF).

Seems to be fooling quite a few people too

Bhoybhoywalter 12:25pm

Im not bothered about the Christain thing, was just pointing out the generalisation didnt work but know what you mean ;¬]

Understand now about the Keanes, read your post wrong thinking you meant thats why they were signed, they were drawn to our club because they felt a connection to the club.

I think we are jinxed when we give Keanes a debut, but would be deighted if the season went the way of the last time we gave a Keane a debut starting with a win at Ibrox...

EN

A focus group !!!

But we have fans on the board ????

Paul67,

Do I detect a softening of this stance ?

Hail Hail

I come in here to see debate I would log on to other web sites if i wanted to see polls.

I find it totally unreal, from the joy of Keane signing, the high fives to the board and manager, and then one result and they all must go!

The world we live in, what ever sells papers, magazines, radio shows etc.... A lot of people jump on the band wagon then jump on the next one.

As for Tennents - that was the best beer around when the rangers had McEwans!! I hold my hands up and say i moved to Carling when the pub got it in and it was ice cold, rather than a tennents, but that was the whole idea of Carling sponsoring both of us, it worked on me, sounds like it worked on the rest of us.

I'm disappointed we are still linked with them, however for the past 6 / 7 years i have bought the hoops with no sponsor on the front.

So to start going mental about not buying any more hoops cause it has tennents on the front, it was something many fans hadn't even thought about until sites like this made them actually think about it.

So paul your point about the customer focus groups i agree but thousands of fans have their chance to make a real difference at the clubs AGM, but the loud mouths think its better to crack some jokes and moan about things that have already been apologised for, and explained, it leaves no time for people with these sort of thoughts and ideas to be put to the board.

How do you select the right people for a focus group?

Rangers play a rejuvinated Motherwell at Fir Park on Wednesday, a ground where they escaped with a very undeserved point earlier this season.
We have our own job to do on Wednesday of course, but this is certainly no gimmee for them.

westy1888, @ 12:17

’Do any of you Bhoys, Ghirls see us pulling back 10 points! With the way we are playing just now?
Im not a happy clapper, and do believe we will click at some stage this season..

Yes it’s totally possible, R@ngers are not ten points clear because they have been great – we have been v poor - I’m sure Celtic FC’s January Quantitive Easing will pay dividends –

AGREE - We will click this season but how long will it take? And are the current management/coaching staff the ones to deliver?

@ CQN We’ve gone from-

Happy Clappers V Mineshafters

TOO

Towell Chuckers V Blind Optimists

ME

I’m interested in Celtic V R@ngers,

Can it be done this season?

WELL

They are beatable

AND

We are Glasgow Celtic!

Hail! Hail!

Not surprised, by this announcement, but I will always remain
disappointed that Celtic are continiually being linked to a deeply
offensive Football club.

Celtic have current more pressing immediate problems
outwith the commercial business of the club.

Hail Hail

Regarding poor Tony

As much as i want him to be a success thats decision is slowly outwith his control. Lose this weekend Celtic have no option but to remove him from office. Its not even a hard decision it's just something that will happen by default due to the high level of expectation when managing this club. Mowbray knows that as does Lawwell who knows that it will be either you or me so it will be taxi for Tony.

SMD

Steins a Legend and Westy,

I too believe we can do it. The biggest frustration is the amount of chances we are not taking and some silly defending which always appears to be punished when other teams get away with it.

However think about the second half of last season. We were not creating any chances to miss which was far more worrying.

Once we start taking the chances, watch us go!

Notthebus,

Just an observation, someone else took a poll last week.

Kilbowie - I think it was.

And to be fair, I think our managers future is a valid talking point at the minute.

I hope we click before Sunday's game and destroy Hunfermline, but fear that if we don't, there will be no need for a new poll next week, as our manager will be unsaveable (is that a word?).

Hail Hail

CU Twitter 5 minutes ago.

"Sportsdesks in Glasgow say huns to go into administration if we go 16pts or more behind them. Some desks have sweeps already running on pts."

Interesting.

bhoybhoywalter

I first mentioned Sean St Ledger's comments about him being a Catholic and wanted to play for Celtic. I have no problem with players wanting to play for Celtic for whatever reason and I know we have a catholic history but I thought we had moved past this and left it in the past. Appears I was wrong and I apologise for mentioning St ledger's quotes.

My point about the Keanes was that (IMHO) they would not have come to the SPHell were it not for an emotional bond that Irish people have with the club. That bond is based on the heritage of the club. While only part of that heritage (Ireland and the Catholic faith have played a positive role in Celtic's history - and I don't mean as a reason to hate others).

I have lived in Ireland all my life and I can tell you that there are very few people in Ireland (north and south) with an emotional bond for Celtic. Sure many like to say they have but the stark reality is that English premiership teams are supported by far far more Irish people.

We overestimate our appeal in Ireland. Here are the reasons the 2 Keanes came to Celtic:

Roy Keane - Contract terminated at Man U because at 34 he wasn't good enough for them and injuries were getting too bad. Came to Celtic for one last big pay out (£40k a week) and we even contributed to his testimonial. He played 10 games and scored 1 goal before retiring due to injuries.

Robbie Keane - Out of the Spurs side and in need of some football. Had West Ham stumped up the loan fee they were asked for I doubt he would be at Celtic.

Hail Hail

Mort

By kitalba on February 4, 2010 12:25 PM

Kit
well said

folks now is the time to stop telling people your a cetic fan and start acting like one.

walter has admitted that the future of his club wont be affected by the out come of this league title (there future is still going to be bleak) I would suggest we are building a team for the future
it might not be delivering results right now but it will

are you here to support your team for one season or for the long haul?

get behind YOUR team, YOUR manager and YOUR players

We are Celtic fans apparently we boast "we dont care if we win lose or draw"

lets grow a pair and get behind the team ........

TT

philvisreturns@12.34, not a very christian way of thinking,,, :-)

Estadio Nacional

I dont understand? 16pts behind?

PeteTheBeat on February 4, 2010 12:04 PM

I don't believe teams are any more motivated against us than against Rangers. Nor do I believe goalkeers are inspirational against us and insiopid against Rangers - I know you haven't said that bit I have read it else where.

I believe its more simple than that.

Rangers get the ball forward more quickly than us. putting the opposition under greater pressure leading to more defensive mistakes. Their shots on target ratio is much more impressive than ours and they see their front two - most notably Miller and Novo - as a first line of defence. These two put a defence under considerable pressure. Their speed of play causes the opposition to make mistakes.

We on the other hand move the ball less quickly and are over dependant on Aiden who is usually double teamed and often receives the ball in an unadvantageous position. He often has to try to beat a full back from a standing position, very rarely does he get a ball to run onto.

We often over elaborate taking too much out of the ball, making one / two /three more passes than necessary giving a defence more time to recover, block, tackle and put our forwards under pressure. Added to that is our crossing from wide is appalling with the ball failing on too many occasions to beat the first defender.

As for the reasons for this? Haven't a clue.

Keep her lit.

Hail! Hail!

Simian Mobile Disco - Put it this way, do you know of anybody who drinks McEwans' vile brew? Me neither.

You can still get Skol abroad.

Remember Gordon Strachan's favourite drink, Kestrel lager? (thumbsup)

fairtrade - Yes it is. Jesus didn't die on the cross saying "it's cool guys... whatever religion works for you" (thumbsup)

It's apt that we got Tennents for this sponsorship deal as, just like Wellparks' fetid output, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
A dreadful deal with a dreadful partner to sponsor a dreadful product that's been irresponsibly marketed before (page 3 girls on the cans IIRC) and Celtic can only end up looking worse off for the whole sorry affair.

I seems that many are against the new sponsorship deal, but there are a variety of different stances within that grouping.

Some object to any joint deal with Rangers on principle, and would be happy for a lesser reward on a single deal, if one were available.

Others object to sponsorship by a company selling alcohol.

And a few seem to be OK with alcohol but not with Tennants!

In principle, I would love to see the hoops with no advertising at all. But I accept that the club needs to generate income in any way that it can.

And I can't get too upset at the choice of company. I can't see any moral difference between being tied up with an alcohol company and one that, for example, sells chocolate. Both are using the club because they think they will make money from it. That's capitalism.

But I would prefer us to take every opportunity to stand alone. To emphasise the differences between ourselves and that other club that we have to share the city with.

PS - has anyone told Follow Follow and the like that their club is now taking money from an Irish company? Will they be told to go home too?

I disagree if we lose at Dunfermline I believe we must continue with Tony Mowbray he deserves the time to work on his plans for the team.Remember hes only been here a few months and it takes time to build a succesfull team. Hail, Hail

Mort,

I agree with that, Celtic are everyone's second team in Ireland and very few's first.

I come from a 100% nationalist town in Co Armagh, and there are probably 10 people including myself who call Celtic their first team, 2 of them are from Scotland.

Everyone else supports Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal.

At least there are no huns.

1 defeat in 34 versus 5 defeats in 23!!!

Cmon guys,there is supporting the club you love,there is wishful thinking again st all the odds and there is blind loyalty ignoring the facts,I am definitely in the first two groupings but the 3rd?

Sorry not for me.

We need to at least make a decent attempt to win the Scottish cup and start planning for next season.We have made a monumental feck up of the last two seasons time to accept it and move on to the next challenge.

By Estadio Nacional on February 4, 2010 12:39 PM

there was some talk of this at the start of teh season

if they go into administration is it not an automatic 10 point deduction
hence they could lose 10 points, settle thier debts at X amount in the pound and still win the league.

not sure of teh technicalities but it sure does sound like a paln/pipe dream

TT

Mort - "I have lived in Ireland all my life and I can tell you that there are very few people in Ireland (north and south) with an emotional bond for Celtic. Sure many like to say they have but the stark reality is that English premiership teams are supported by far far more Irish people."

I think that's true, particularly in the Republic. Most Celtic supporters have an emotional bond with Ireland, so we tend to assume it's reciprocated, but sadly this is often not the case. (thumbsup)

Paul,

Thats what I was thinking, beggars cant be choosers.

Although I hear that Cheggers can be a boozer. Boom boom.

Swiss

Gregg - "page 3 girls on the cans IIRC"

What's wrong with that? (thumbsup)

Once the bookies have paid out on the huns winning the league then I'll start to entertain the possibility.

Not before.

Chairbhoy

We are Glasgow Celtic!
I hope and pray!

Westy1888

philvisreturns

I cant think of many people who go out there way to drink tennents to be honest

Your right McEwans was rotten as were the adverts they had on tele! mind the one with the two rangers fans pushing that big rock up a hill?

Mort on February 4, 2010 12:39 PM

Thats a sweeping generalisation and the fixation with EPl teams only really came to the fore during the mid 90s when Celtic were losing and Man U started winning.

DD

Sheany, I did last week's poll because I was CERTAIN that the vast majority of us backed Anton Mor. It was an act of support.

I hope I am wrong in thinking that the present poll is an attempt to UNDERMINE the manager.

philvisreturns, you're correct, he didn't say that; remind me, what was it he said?

Sheany on February 4, 2010 12:39 PM

Just passing info onto kitalba .That particular poster is not worth getting uptight about.

He has previous.

@ kitalba

Loving the posts, keep the faith

Simian Mobile Disco - "mind the one with the two rangers fans pushing that big rock up a hill?"

That was a warning of the Sisyphean punishments that await them in the Bad Fire. (thumbsup)

Vinibhoy 12:41pm

Just a rumour but Im guessing if they may think a 16 point gap would be ok for them to take a 10 point deduction (if it was enforced) should they go into administration.

I stopped reading their financial news a while ago so not sure of the current status of that but say it was 16 points reduced to 6 Id take that right now. Though there is a huge risk if we loost the league to a team in administration, now that would be an embarassment.

A bit of Celtic magic and we can get the current ten points back.

EN

Let's say they do get 16pts clear (ouch) this huns/16pts/admin thing would all be dependent on when the gap happened. If it happened by the end of Feb they wouldn't do it cos they could still lose the league as 6pts is hee haw, even to a team stuttering like ours. If it were to happen in May however…

It's a nice little theory but not being a financial whizz, who is it that decides you go into administration? Is it not someone other than yourself that makes that call for you? Should they be in administration already? (any other club in Scotland would be, I'd suggest).

fairtrade - I'm sure you know how to use Google or read a Bible. (thumbsup)

Estadio Nacional -

That would be typical ! They go into adminstration, 10pts deducted and still win the league.

Cheers Gordon.

Sheany

In my year at school there were 160 or so of us and only 2 would have professed to support Celtic, I was one and the other also supported Liverpool. Funnily enough after our 2-2 draw with Liverpool and we went on the run to win the league in 1998 many others came out of the woodwork wanting me to get them tickets for games.

There was such a low number of Celtic supporters in our town that at 16 I was secretary of the Supporters Club (ok there were only 15 of us and that has decreased to 3 or 4 now) but very depressing.

Philvis, agree 100% (thumpsup)

Mort

Can we still win the league ?

Since the return of the Cardigan in 2007 , also with 15 games to go, the Huns have dropped an average of 12 points in their last 15 matches over the 3 seasons, although worryingly last year they only dropped 9, only 2 of which were to us.

Given the goal difference we probably need them to drop 11 points. Take 6 points off them and we need them to drop 5 more. That has happened in each of the last 3 seasons.

So it is possible.

The main stumbling block is us. Can we win 15 games on the bounce. We have only managed to win 4 matchs in a row once this season.

Last season after our defeat to the Huns at Parkhead we won 12 in a row.

In 2008 we famously won 7 in a row to win it, after a 9 in a row sequence earlier in the season.

Those were different players and a different manager.

Let's face it's going to be pretty hard.

And another point for those who think the cardigan is a poor manager. The facts are that since he came back he has gained more points per match than either gordon strachan or tony mowbray over the same period. (incidentally mcleish and o'neill had far superior points per game records to smith and strachan which backs up the view that the 2 teams are currently at their poorest level in some time). He was won more derby matches than he has lost and he has taken the huns to the final of every domestic trophy he has competed for. He is a formidable opponent. the famous choir conductor graham roberts remarked when he was appointed that the celtic fans would be terrified. I remember some people laughing because we were so far ahead at the time they could never catch us. I have to admit I was scared. This is not a cardigan love in, I absolutely despise the man with every bone in my body, he is a bully, a dyed in the wool hun with not a shred of dignity or integrity about him, he tells kevin thomson and scott brown to honour their contracts then walks out on his, shortly before inducing them to break theirs to come to "his" club. he has the press in his pocket, he badgers the refs , he instructs his players to go out and injure their opponents.

I tell you what though I would like to see someone at our club who was actually willing to fight back against the bully instead of throwing out soundbites about the fightback and the holy willies.

Mort

Wolves were in for Robbie Keane on loan and as Mick McCarthy said - They offered to pay over the odds. Why do you think Robbie choose to play on the cabbage patch that is Rugby Park?

Roy Keane had offers from a number of premiership clubs including Bolton.

I'm Irish and have lived all my life in Ireland and Spain. I have no political affiliations. All my family are Celtic supporters. In the years that I have been able to, I have been a season ticket holder (had to let it go this year because I lost my job). I've been to four games so far this season.

My point is that you can't airbrush things to make them completely black or white. I simply pointed out that the link between Celtic and Catholicism is not all bad. The religion does not promote hatred, violence etc. - people do that!

Hail Hail

For all of our 'international profile' we've ended up not with a global brand but a brewer situated on the same bus route as Celtic Park.

Ghentlemen, Lhadies

Both Carling and Tennents is Gnats urine after they have gorged themselves on asparagus. Illegal to sell it here in Germany due to the chemical content or is it just cos its so bad they know nobody would buy it

Avram Grant = Vagrant Ram

We should try and hook up with a brewery here in Germany.

Fly PL over tell them they´ll do a deal to singularly to promote their product. Get the Irish pub chains to promote it. Expand the life line of the Celtic Support.

my personal endorsements

http://www.pfungstaedter.de/start/

http://www.schmucker-bier.de/start.htm

Peter you can save on expenses by staying the night in my house. I would like a few constructive words.

Hail hail

PhilvisReturns

That is a profoundly sweeping generalisation of all attendees at the festival, one which I have been to on a number of occasions.

lubomiraculous

Walter Smith is not exactly a shrinking violet when it comes to criticism of refs.
Of course down south Ferguson - notice i don't use the term "SIR" a term which like serfdom and the stocks should be consigned to history - and that other gurrier Rooney continually bate referees. Don't get me wrong Rooney is a fabulous player and is the only Brit that would walk straight into Barca's or Real Madrid's team.

Estadio

Very interesting!
I would rather be 6 points behind! Lol

Westy1888

Lurgan53:

If you don’t mind can I interject here?

I do believe teams try harder against us. If you remember back to Scott Brown’s interview after he signed for Celtic (after turning down better offers from south of the border) he was asked why he chose to go to Celtic. He replied "that every ‘professional’ football player in Scotland wanted to play for Celtic".

After all, they often play in the Champions league; they also pay the biggest wages; they also play in front of the biggest crowds; they are (on paper) the best team in Scotland.

If you ever want to pull on a Celtic Jersey what better chance to impress than in a game against Celtic, when the focus is on you. The vast majority of players who play against us raise their game because they perceive it to be the highlight of their season.

Even at my geriatric level I still raise my game against the better teams. I try harder… I get stuck in more… I get more aggressive.I want to beat them to show that I am as good as them.

Now we all know there is a tiny percentage of bigots in the game who raise their game simply because they hate us. Such is their sad lives.

Paul67 - Mort

The AGM is the right place to get something done.

Paul you may well have an ear at Parkhead, even if we could get a list together of ideas and thoughts and get them passed to the board.

I was next in line for a question again this year! I now have 4 points / ideas for the next AGM, this time i will just sit at a mic!

Damo - Stereotypes are a real time saver. (thumbsup)

By PeteTheBeat on February 4, 2010 11:44 AM

I'm not suggesting a "they are lying down" argument (although after Aberdeen beat Rangers there were plenty of Rangers supporters saying that they try harder v Rangers (funny that)
but one possible answer is in your point about how Rangers play the game with flying tackles that go unpunished.

I saw a few on Tuesday night I thought were clear fouls against our players that went unpunished so something is not right in that department.

Paul,
I would be interested in your views on the following. Feel free to be as circumspect as you feel you'd like to be.....

Change can occur as the result of long term strategy, thoughtful consideration, panic and/or a knee jerk reaction.

Tony is still in place. I always look to the first 24 hours on these things, and having survived that, I think it is fair to say that there will be no quick movement by him or the board.

I would suggest that there are likely to be those on the board who want to stick with the long term strategy, and as such will be thinking that Tony should have at least the next 18 months to get things right.

I would also suspect that there at least some who are currently thinking of an exit strategy, considering a short list of candidates, fully aware that IF any change happens, the new manager would need the WHOLE close-season to prepare.

I am suggesting that there would be wisdom in immediately (ie yesterday) greasing the wheels of a 'what if' option.

Thoughts?
All the best,
Ronnie

Maybe Peat and Smith will give us a helping hand,through gritted teeth, after all :)

10 point deduction isn't it AUTOMATICALLY

Love Lloyds

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/revealed-banker-s-ultimatum-to-debt-hit-rangers-1.928574

By falkirkbhoy on February 4, 2010 12:35 PM

"I find it totally unreal, from the joy of Keane signing, the high fives to the board and manager, and then one result and they all must go!"

Well, there is another way of looking at it, isn't there?

One could find it unreal that despite being 10 points behind (with a game in hand)we were all high fiving to the board and manager on Monday.

It's not just one result....we have lost 4 other games (in 3 of them we scored first). We have dropped 4 points to the team at the bottom of the league and have only been comfortable against St Johnstone who still scored 3 against us.

The team is not functioning properly (and it's not Gordon Strachan's fault). People argue that give Tony the time to build his own team. Okay but what he had at his disposal in the summer should still have been good enough to beat Falkirk at least once.

He is not up to the task in my view and that has translated to the players. Whether he should go now is hard to say but I seriously doubt that he is capable of leading the team in a successful comeback. The players are good enough but if they pull it off, my view is that it will be in spite of the manager not because of him much as it pains me to say it.

At this stage, what is in the jersey is more important than what is on the jersey.

I think the blog works better when people exercise a bit of self control. To this end, I would suggest a ban on ad hoc polls which contain possible detrimental views to members of the club.

Some see it as "a bit of fun".I don't

It is a type of bullying or pillorying of people we should be supporting. Private opinions are one thing, trying to gather a mob is something completely different.

I was talking to Pabbers the other night; he is working in the famous rebel county of Cork and says most of the locals couldn't care less about Celtic; even when we're playing the Horribles on TV the pubs are empty.

The bedrock of the Celtic support, sorry customer base, is Scotland, especially the West, with important contributions from the nine counties and the northwest of England.

get the birds back on the cans that will sooth the blow

Mr Understanding 12:50pm

Im the same no financial expert but think its got to be a creditor making a claim for money.

In that case I was at Ibrox in October last year and paid good money for a faulty product that was old under the pretence that it would be a fair game of football. Cheated out of my money and the result, so they owe me.

Still waiting on Watchdog to get back to me on that one but just need to know where I start proceedings as a creditor..

EN

Do'h ran a wee bit ahead o masel there

sorry troops :)

We recently signed the future of Korean football in Ki. Surely we could have found a Korean company willing to be associated with his name for a tidy sum.

The question is did we even try?

By lubo1977 on February 4, 2010 12:04 PM

I think you have to detach yourself and your understandable personal dislike of Rangers from the business of ensuring Celtic have a competition to play in.

Keeping them alive but weak makes much more business sense than killing them off.

Step back and look at the big picture.

By Mort on February 4, 2010 12:39 PM

"I have lived in Ireland all my life and I can tell you that there are very few people in Ireland (north and south) with an emotional bond for Celtic."

I think you'd need to qualify that statement. You wouldn't have any figures so you assertion could only be supported through anecdotal evidence, And that can be subjective at best. Of course the same would apply to anything I said as well.

I would certainly contest your point that very few have an emotional bond to Celtic. I cannot put number to it of course but that would not be my belief at all. There is no doubt that there are more EPL supporters in Ireland than Celtic but I think only Man Utd supporters would out number Celtic.

As you know other sports in Ireland enjoy nationwide support. Gaelic football, hurling and Rugby. Many of those who participate in gaelic and hurling would certainly have a bond to Celtic - in that they would know the history - of the club. They may not be supporters - actually go to Parkhead - but they would certainly have an emotional bond.

You would also find that as in the norm in Ireland many footballers follow two teams. They would have a team in the EPL but their second team would be Celtic. ( Or Rangers!)

There will of course be areas in Ireland where there is little support for Celtic because there is little support for Soccer. Cork, Kerry and Limerick would come to mind.

Just my opinion of course and it is offered with respect.

Keep her lit.

Hail! Hail!

tannochsidetim

Going into administration isn't a get out of gaol free card for the huns.

Their debts wouldn't be written off.

Administration would give them some protection from competing creditors for a limited period to allow the administrator to save the business or wind it up.

It's hard to see what an administrator would do that the bank aren't already doing.

Kilbowie,

And so it turned out to be, the results last week showed unequivocal support for Tony.

Notthebus,

No worries.

Off topic so apologies.

Can any of the Donegal readers recommend restaurants or pubs in the Rathmullan area.
Heading over at Easter for a short break with the family.

Thanks

FROM A PREVIOUS THREAD...

By Herodotus on February 4, 2010 11:09 AM
I would like to poll members on whether they

1) Think the league is effectively over

and

2) If they think Mowbray should be sacked now

My answers are

1) NO
2) NO

BTM is rebuilding a team and I, for one, like the players hes brought in and like the way hes got them playing.

There have been many darker days than this; from the elation of Monday to the misery of Tuesday night.

Rankers are a busted flush; their only way is down onfield AND off.

Whilst the only way is up for us. (Feel a song coming on!)

Still surprises me to see team, lying 2nd bottom of the SPHell, play with such tanacity yet are unable to play like that at any other time.

Hate must be a very powerful motivator!

Celt4life

pin76 (12.31pm): "My disappointment on this sponsorship is that it's a drinks company... There is clearly a problem with the behaviour of many Rangers fans"

And the irony is that the Rangers fans' behaviour to which you refer is largely fuelled by excessive consumption of alcohol.

Furthermore, bearing in mind the fact that excessive alcohol consumption has recently been identified as a major social & health issue in Scotland, should our club really be agreeing to carry the name of an alcoholic beverages producer on their jerseys, and thereby advertising such harmful products to thousands of children every week?!

Surely it would be more socially responsible for Celtic to carry advertising for Innocent smoothies or some other healthy product, or perhaps publicising the "stop smoking" campaign. There would be plenty opportunity for football related puns such as "Kick the habit with Celtic and Nicorelle", or whatever. Or we should go with the charity route like Barcelona, as suggested by many others.

Come on Celtic, do the right thing and tear up the Tennents contract!

Se7en:

On my sons lives... YES.

donegaldanny

Thats a sweeping generalisation and the fixation with EPl teams only really came to the fore during the mid 90s when Celtic were losing and Man U started winning.

Ok it is a generalisation but based on personal experiences. I'm only old enough to have started supporting Celtic in the early 1990s but even in the 80s when at Primary School I knew a bit about football (not as much as I do now!!!) but all I ever remember was people talking about about Liverpool or Man United.

I only heard about Celtic when in the video shop one night when I was about 9 or 10 and I saw a video of celtic. It had a nice green and white cover so I picked it up and gave it to my da who rented it for me. We sat down and watched it and I was mesmerised by all the old black and white footage and stories of sadness, Johnny Thompson the one that stuck out most, followed by highs of winning the European Cup to the early 80s stuff. To this day I haven't been able to find a copy of this tape and if anyone has any ideas I'd be really greatful.

Anyways, even after I left school and went to Uni, no one else supported Celtic. Sure some came over to games with me but their first team was always Man u or Liverpool. I see the same thing now with my nieces and nephews who only have eyes for the big premiership teams despite my persistance at trying to get them to support Celtic.

Off course there are Irish people who only support Celtic, I have seen enough on boats and planes to know that but the majority in Ireland don't really care about us.

Mort

westy1888 12:54pm

They would probably think 6 points would be a good enough gap, take a point from the games against us and step the referees up a notch to full on hun attack mode in their other games.

EN

In today's Herald. On the way to work this morning, looking at the paper online via my phone, the main sport story was:

"How costly will Celtic's failure to capitalise on Robbie Keane fervour prove?"

Another negative Celtic article, I rightly thought. I go online again via desktop just now and the main sport story is:

"Rangers 2 St. Johnstone 0... Treble on as Walter Smith maintains record of reaching every dometic cup final...as manager"

... And alongside which is, that's right, the said negative Celtic article... Nothing else though.

However under the "most read" column is a story of some import, objectively speaking, if I may. However there is no main or sub-link to this very important story anywhere on the screen. The headline reads:

"Revealed: banker's ultimatum to debt-hit Rangers."

Oh the irony - "REVEALED"! - they couldn't have concealed the story and revealed their own sympathies any better!

HAIL! HAIL!

Maybe the erudite Ed may be able to comment on the current Ibrox financial situation if he is lurking?

Swiss

Ernie

true, I know we all thought that they would be selling off the family jewels this window but it will be intresting to see who they sell and who leaves at the end of the season.

I would have thought that we would have seen an influx of younger players signing if they thought that the buying days were over and the future was developing thier own talent

TT

BigChipsUKAuthor Profile Page

the Rangers fans' behaviour to which you refer is largely fuelled by excessive consumption of alcohol.

Canny be ! Naybdy else has this issue

I think it´s their genes

Hail Hail

Joshsdad

I love the players he has brought in!
But they arent playing yet! they will! But when?
We are on the right road! we have to click!
Westy1888

BigChipsUK - Do you really believe people drink booze in Scotland because it's advertised, or that they would stop drinking if it wasn't?

Smoothies, and anti-smoking, these things are... how do I put it? Gay. I'd rather we were sponsored by Tampax than either of those. (thumbsup)

kitalba on February 4, 2010 12:54 PM

No problem.

Maybe I haven't made myself clear.

You're right. Teams will raise their game against us - and Rangers. My point was that I don't think teams will be selective and raise their game against us but not against Rangers.

Hail! Hail!

McGhee praises Keane and says he will reignite Celtic’s season

Mark McGhee believes no player other than Robbie Keane could have created the stir he did when signing for Celtic on loan from Tottenham Hotspur and that his arrival will kill off any aspirations by Hibernian that they will finish second in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League this season.

McGhee, who, as manager of Wolverhampton Wanderers, can lay claim to having discovered Keane, reckons the Irishman’s mere presence at the club will boost Tony Mowbray’s side and spur them on to better performances and meaningful results.

“I think Celtic have bought well,” the Aberdeen manager said yesterday, “and Robbie will eventually produce performances that will keep Celtic ahead of Hibs in the SPL.

“What Robbie will do is enthuse all the others. When they’re working with him in training they’ll realise what an amazing player he is and his energy and his effervescence will rub off on the other players. He’s a player you would love to play with. He’ll make goals and he’ll score goals and he’ll lift the whole place.

“I know that Brian Laudrup and the De Boer brothers were all great players when they came to Rangers, but I don’t think any of them could argue, in terms of a star player, a marque player, that they are any better than Keane.

“There are only a few players who could have pulled out 5,000 at midnight to see him after signing for Celtic. Robbie is the one signing they needed to make to re-engage the fans and reignite their season and, although they lost against Kilmarnock, I think he’ll do that for them.”

McGhee recalled handing Keane his first-team debut as a 16-year-old at Molineux after recognising his prodigious talent and a maturity beyond his years.

“He was, even at such a tender age, mature physically and, probably more importantly, he had the temperament and the belief in himself at that age that he was able to play,” he said. “And, of course, he has ability. Yet, early on a lot of people looked at him and didn’t buy him from Wolves, even though they were looking at a real talent.

“They couldn’t quite work out where he would play and one of the things that happened was that Gordon Strachan, as my mate, saw more of Wolves than any other manager because he was coming to our games. He saw what Keane could be and that’s why, as manager of Coventry City, he paid £7 million for him.”

BigChipsUK,

One of my favourite lyrics is from Southern rock band the Drive By Truckers:

"The bottle ain't to blame and I ain't trying to
It don't make you do nothing, it just lets you."

Alcohol does not turn Rangers fans into hate filled potential rioters. Many of them are like that when sober!

Out of interest if a club goes in to administration after the last day of the season what happens? Do they start the next season -10 or if European qualification is involved does the penalty apply retrospectively?

Lurgan 53

There are about 5 Celtic Supporters Clubs in Cork. I think that the EPL is a marketing machine and for a long time lack of exposure meant that Celtic were out of sight and therefore out of mind. I'm not a member of a club but have seen the Friar's Walk Tavern packed on many occasions for Celtic matches (not just against the huns). Lots of Polish living in Cork also support Celtic. I don't think people should make sweeping generalisations.

Clearly McManus and Caldwell were never going to be on bus shelter ads the way Rooney and Torres are - thus the paucity of young fans.

Hail Hail

Kitalba:

Keep telling it like it is.

If it talks like a hun...and smells like a hun.......

So we are to enter into a pact where the shirt has shrunk to accomodating the periodic tables symbol for panther urine?
We are also dressed up like Siamese twins with the forces of darkness.....

Seems like my glass is Half Fool....
And the PLC considers their glass only 95% full.

Bitter........ Anybody? Plenty to go round....

I thought there was no chance of Rangers going into administration, this falls to the largest creditor which is the bank who are already in control.

AndyM,

If Leeds is taken as an example they were actually docked more points as they were seen to be 'evading' the rule deliberately.

However in Scotland... frankly who knows... it would probably be allowed with a sly wee wink.

B

On the back of the Tennents deal The Daily Retard
are also trying to link Celtic and Rangers with a firebomb attack
on Damarcus Beasleys Beamer.

They offer many theories as to why it's linked to Celtic
all of course, without a single shred of evidence.

HH

joshsdad @ 1:02

There are 4 on-loan-til-the-end-of-the-season players who will, undoubtedly, be regularly featuring in the team that TM is 'rebuilding'.

That is a strange kind of 'rebuilding' - it seems more like fire-fighting to me.

PJBhoynyc - "So we are to enter into a pact where the shirt has shrunk to accomodating the periodic tables symbol for panther urine?"

Sixty percent of the time it works every time. (thumbsup)

Gallagher (12.55pm), I am a bit confused by that article. The date at the top, just under the Herald banner, says Feb 4th, but below this it says "Published on 26 Oct 2009". So isn't this just old news regurgitated, and as such not of any particularly immediate relevance?

Dontbrattback

You are not a hun by any chance. There are Celtic supporters clubs all over the Ireland.
Pubs are also empty when the big EPL teams play.
Penalties are too severe for drink drivers. I should know I live here. Rugby and GAA are huge in this country. WE hold European Cup at club and international level. An interest in both games does not prevent me from following Celtic.
I hate watching football in pubs anyway.

PJBhoynyc

:o)

Lurgan53

You're right that I don't have any figures and off course what I say is anecdotal but as I said to DD above based on my personal experiences.

I take on board what you say and I may have been wrong to say few have an emotional bond, but then we have to try and describe what an emotional bond is. I have an emotional bond. I care when we lose and I hate it when we do and when I'm not working (and actually even when I am) or doing other things Celtic is always in my mind. I've just thought about that and that's pretty depressing really but thats the sort of thing I think off when talking about an emotional bond.

I really don't think there are many (even those who would say Celtic are their second team) who would have that sort of a bond like we do.

Anyways, glad you're on as I have a non-Celtic question for you. Do you have a GAA season ticket and did you have one last year? I think I remember reading that you do so anyway, I just got a couple this year for Tyrone and heading to Celtic Park to see the match against Derry. Would you happen to know which stile you enter and how do they keep a record of what games you were at?

Cheers

Mort

bhoybhoywalter

Right. Thanks for that. 5 supporters clubs. That's pretty impressive. I was down in Cork last Easter for the Cork v Armagh National League game and did see few Hoops righ enough. In Clanecy's I think it is called.

Hail! Hail!

Molly Malone - "I hate watching football in pubs anyway."

Me too. The smoking ban has killed pubs, they're no longer fun places to be, they've turned into joyless clones of Wetherspoonseses anti-pubs. (thumbsup)

I work for an Irish company in the UK. The vast majority of my colleagues are Irish or 2nd or 3rd generation Irish.

Ask them who they support and it ranges from Liverpool to Man U to Chelsea to Leeds, Celtic are usually their 2nd team.

Any colleagues from the occupied territories or from Donegal usually support Celtic. Strangely a lot of the 2nd & 3rd generation Irish are stronger Celtic supporters than the Irish born.

You only have to read the Irish press and it's view of Scottish Football to realise how much they hero worship the EPL.

PhilvisReturns

Stereotypes reflect lazy reporting & lack traction

A likeable & honest hun in my work (did I just type that?!) has just shown me the player stats in the DR, he was laughing too.

Get this;

Lee McCulloch: Strong and dominating. Scored cracking goal.

Graeme Smith (goalkeeper) Should have done better at second goal.

Step forward Colin Duncan. So what is it, a great goal or a keeper's mistake??!!!

thismancraig
Do the bank want to stay in conteol of Rankers?
Or would taking 18mil say and the hun taking a 10 point deduction benefit both parties.
Bob.

mort

have to agree, i am from a 100% nationalist village in derry, i along with a couple of others are 100% celtic supporters, and i do mean a couple. we had a game on 1 sunday i think, manu v liverpool were on at same time, there are 3 tv's in our local pub, everyone was watching man v liverpool, i didnt see celtic game, i can gaurantee only a few of those watching man v liverpol have ever been to a game, must would also probably sneer when we are watching eg celtic v falkirk, they think they are superior as their team is worth millions etc, i detest all english teams, esp man & liverpool

Mort on February 4, 2010 1:04 PM

Maybe Donegal has more of a Celtic connection than most and maybe that clouds my expereinces. I'm sure guys like Pat Bonner, Shay Given and Aiden McGeady have a lot to do with it aswell.

Don't get me wrong I've had abuse shouted at me on the streets of Dublin for wearing a Celtic jersey but then again thats Dublin and to be expected from the EPL loving west brits.

However I've been in many midland counties aswell as most in the west and you'll always see a love for Celtic. Granted the younger generation follow the EPL first and foremost and I've seen bigger Chelsea displays in sports shops in Mayo than Celtic.

I think there are many reasons for this not least Celtic taking Ireland for granted themselves and doing little to build the brand. I mean when was the last time a full squad came to Ireland to play a game?

I speak to alot of Irish guys even in Edinburgh who follow Man U AND Celtic but when you ask them why they support Man U there is almost always a uniform answer - because they win stuff. This IMO only really started to be an issue in the mid 90s when the EPL began to completely overshadow Celtic.

DD

Mort.

Yes. Got the season ticket this year again. You'll get an email indicating which stile / gate to use. Make sure you get your ticket swiped every time as they use this info when dealing with matchday tickets for the future.

We have Derry in the preliminary round of the Championship - at Celtic Park too. Enjoy the game - I'm for Navan on Saturday night. Meath'll probably kick seven couours out of us. They usually do!

Hail! Hail!

AndyM

From the SPL Handbook

'A6.8 Where a Club takes, suffers or is subject to an Insolvency Event that Club shall be deducted 10 points. Where the Insolvency Event occurs during the Season, the points deduction shall apply immediately. Where the Insolvency Event occurs during the Close Season the points deduction shall apply in respect of the immediately following Season, such that the Club starts that immediately following Season on minus 10 points.'

Cardiffbhoy,
I agree Re the Irish press.........it is ridiculously scathing of the SPL and Celtic. A proctoligist is required the way the Irish journalists pander to the EPL.

flat5@1.02
I think it is called the Beachcomber in Rathmullan. Great views of LochSwilly. It is just beside the old castle where The Flight of the Earls took place. They've got a big telly to watch Celtic games. In reply to other posters I can tell you in Donegal Celtic come first.

delbhoy01

Whereabouts in Derry are you from. I hail (hail) from Magherafelt, and while not 100% nationalist, it has a large enough population to expect quite a lot of Celtic supporters. I haven't lived there for a while but the only pub to show Celtic games had a full house for the Rangers matches (or league deciders) and only 3 or 4 of us for the other games.

Mort

Does anyone know if we will have a stupid big red T on our shirts or the words themselves.
heres another thing, have you noticed that none of the additional sponsorship badges worn ever have green in them. it's almost like the powers that be would deliberately avoid a company whos corporate colour was green as to not upset the Hun.
I know it is incredibly petty but I reckon the Hun Directors would intervene if they thought they would have to put some green on their shirt. imagine for instance that the dirty big tennents T was green, do you think der Hun would have signed............I DONT! whereas if it was blue I dont think we would mind, apart from the fact that it is a joint deal.

Just had a quick look at the fixtures between now and next Glasgow derby. On present form we could be 14-16 pts behind. Defeat would spell the end for Tony.
Faithful through and through is proving very difficult.
On another point. Rangers are not going out of business. They will be taken over. They will be back in the market for players. Probably in the summer. It will not be with moonbeams blank cheque book, but they will be stronger than they are at present. We need to be better than we are at present. This is an extremely important juncture for the club, decisions made must be on the money.

Celtic Bob

Why would they accept any less than they are due? I don't think there is any acceptable precedent for that.

tmc

Lurgan53

Cheers for info

Celtic Park's a long way to go on a Saturday night for a match from dear old Belfast but sure what else would I be doing.

I'm for Navan on Saturday night. Meath'll probably kick seven couours out of us. They usually do!

It's ok, they do that to us all.

Mort

Can we start a poll to find out how many posters have been incorrectly accused as a hun?

thisplaceisbonkerssometimes.CSC

Kitalba thanks.

Unless you are on the board I'd have to wonder why you are so sure. It's probably all those years of watching an inept board run the club into the ground that left me suspicious of all future boards.

By joshsdad on February 4, 2010 1:02 PM

'BTM is rebuilding a team and I, for one, like the players hes brought in and like the way hes got them playing.'

TRULY? You like the way we are not beating falkirk and losing to hibs and kilmarnock? Do you think its acceptable while rebuilding to have results like this? Not having a go here but please enlighten me

Killerheels

A joint deal.

Now your talking it´s being in partnership with them that I cant tolerate.

Hail Hail

PjDali,

Apparently if you criticise Celtic in any way shape or form you are a blue nose. Sad but true. If we hadn't criticised the last 'custodians' we wouldn't have a club at all.

PjDali

Lol
I must be the biggest! In my short time here!

Westy1888

Rangers have been in administration in all bar name since Muir was appointed to the board.

Lloyds won't put them into administration as they frankly don't have to. They are in control and can do what the hell they like to get their money back. Rangers would be better off in administration as it would give them some semblance of protection from a rabid creditor.

Smith was referring to the "Plan B" that Lloyds have if there is not a buyer for Rangers by the summer. I have told you all before what that is. Armageddon budget wise. Aberdeen will have a bigger football budget. All playing assets will be sold. Wages brought right down. Currently, contrary to the media, there is absolutely nobody in the running to buy the club. Nobody. They are hemorraghing cash on a daily basis. If Lloyds did put them into administration it would be an admission from them that, in their opinion, they have stripped all of worth from the carcass and are now leaving it to swing in the wind.

However our own troubles are far far more pressing.

Pjdali,

I have never been accused of being a hun while on CQN

HAil Hail

By killerheels on February 4, 2010 1:22 PM

Think we should all just buy sponsorless shirts, that is the best way to show our displeasure. Have a feeling though that after 3-4,000 sales of sponsorless shirts you would suddenly find they werent available to buy anymore.

Thoughts anyone??

DD

Donegal was always different to the rest of the country so it's no surprise that more from that fair land would support Celtic.

Was in Waterford during the summer and was pleasently surprised with the number of hoops on show so maybe we are going in the right direction.

I speak to alot of Irish guys even in Edinburgh who follow Man U AND Celtic but when you ask them why they support Man U there is almost always a uniform answer - because they win stuff. This IMO only really started to be an issue in the mid 90s when the EPL began to completely overshadow Celtic.

That's football for you. It will always attract glory hunters.

Hail Hail

Mort

PjDali,
On more than one occasion, same culprits all the time right enough.

Fellow bloggers, does anyone else think that the timing of this was deliberate?

Paul, WE know for fact this has been under consideration for weeks and if the Board were of a mind, the proposal could easily have been roadtested to gauge opinion.

I remember recently having the oppertunity to speak with PL and stated that the term Old Firm was abhorred by a sizeable majority of fans and was one that should be exorcised from our Family,s vocabulary.This action shows that the point was not taken on board.

We as a business need all revenue streams to be explored, not all of them should be persued...bigger picture etc etc. Tennants would not have sponsored only one side therefore this deal provides much needed oxygen.

No doubt said oxygen will be put to good use on their next visit when the scum follow followers once more pollute our stadium with the usual non football despicable songbook.

A massive own goal imo by those that lead us and a slap in the face to those of us who have wanted the end of the GUILT BY ASSOCIATION/TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN nonsense the media love to trot out.

Anyone else of the same angry mindset??

Awe_Naw (1.06pm): "Naybdy else has this issue"

Have you never been in a town centre on a Friday or Saturday night? The whole country is afflicted by people indulging in at least anti-social, and often aggressive and/or violent behaviour, whilst under the influence of alcohol.

It is true that alcohol does not create bad people. It merely lowers or removes their inhibitions and allows their true character to come to the surface. If they are denied access to (or at least not encouraged to consume) alcohol, then hopefully they would be less inclined to behave in such an anti-social and unacceptable way.

Philvisreturns (1.06pm): "BigChipsUK - Do you really believe people drink booze in Scotland because it's advertised, or that they would stop drinking if it wasn't?"

No I don't, but they might not drink quite so much if they weren't bombarded with brand images at every turn! And if it were more expensive... and thankfully the Scottish Executive is trying to effect that change. For the better in my book, as long as the extra revenues raised go towards the tens of millions of pounds spent dealing with the effects of excessive alcohol consumption, from damage to property, through policing and medical staff, to treatment of related long term health problems.

"Smoothies, and anti-smoking, these things are... how do I put it? Gay. I'd rather we were sponsored by Tampax than either of those."

No Philvisreturns, those things are healthy. Perhaps it is time for you to take a more socially responsible and mature attitude. I for one am fed up with having to do without things I could otherwise afford if I wasn't shelling out so much in taxes to pay for the inevitable effects of other people's bad lifestyle choices.

By Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on February 4, 2010 1:27 PM
Pjdali,

I have never been accused of being a hun while on CQN

HAil Hail

The question for you Awe Naw should be how many times have you accused others of being Huns....:)

DownForSam

'Rangers are not going out of business. They will be taken over.'

Are you BFDJ?

You certainly sound like him.

Who is going to take them over?

How much will they pay?

When will the deal be done?

Why hasn't it happened already?

So they are waiting for us to slip 16 points behind before going into administration:-
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Otherwise they are going to go into administration at the end of the season after they win the league and collect a guaranteed 10 million.

So the bank are delaying administration until they get a pay day.

So this season Rangers are enjoying an unfair advantage over every team in the SPL by not calling in the administrators when they obviously need to.

Surely this is enough to inspire every non hun player in the SPL to take more than 10 points off them before then end of the season.

C'mon Celtic pick up 10 points so that we put the nail in their coffin.
Chase them down, show no mercy!!!!

celticfoo,

buy your hoops from a french outlet.

Illegal to advertise on a sports top there.

Hail Hail

Cadizzy

I hear you, it was just the fact that many posters had put all the other results behind them, the issues with the board were gone, we are united here we go, one final push.........

then after just 1 result, 1 rubbish game, it was again open season on the manager the board etc....

No thoughts of the long term goals, it was just hype by the media sky sports news, radio... and i think the way in which fans reacted and post in here shows that there still is a vast majority of celtic fans that still read the red tops and listen to radio clyde and real radio.

By jonnybhoy on February 4, 2010 1:29 PM

I think many of us are angry, its a case of finding best way to vent it. It needs a huge majority of the support to take it on board to be heard though. Best way would still seem to be 50,000 new celtic tops sold in summer with no sponsor on them, do feel the board would stop this though

Lurgan 53
I'd disagree that there is no love for the EPL in Kerry. There is an Arsenal and Chelsea supporters club in Tralee and i can think of two pubs in the area called 'The Stretford End'.

By the mighty atom on February 4, 2010 1:11 PM
joshsdad @ 1:02

There are 4 on-loan-til-the-end-of-the-season players who will, undoubtedly, be regularly featuring in the team that TM is 'rebuilding'.

That is a strange kind of 'rebuilding' - it seems more like fire-fighting to me.

Strange analogy to use 'firefighting' I would hope BTM is trying to ignite some fire in the bellies of the team.

It seems to me the 4 loan signings represent a WIN WIN situation for us.

scenario 1

4 loan signings help us to win the league GOOD TIMES possibly keep 3 from 4 at end of the season.

scenario 2

4 loan signings don't help us win the league BAD TIMES but we ship 3 out (keep HEID2) and use the money saved to bring in Ramis and Kujovic and one other.

Hence part of a longer term plan of rebuilding.

a WIN WIN in my book

Hail Hail

Surely the Celtic fans on the board would know the...erm...Celtic fans Don't want this deal?

PjDali

Sadly, yes. I dared to disagree with some members of the CQN knitting club ©GCT.

Donegaldanny

Calm down there. The EPL gets massive worldwide coverage, it's the only game in town in most countries thanks to SKY's brainwashing tactics.
Sure people like to watch Manure play attractive football. Does that make them a WEST BRIT?

Molly Malone- no, I'm not a Hun, although I'm quite pleased that I can now join the ever-expanding clique of posters who've been labelled that.

Ernie Lynch = While out with a friend for a drink last night we discused this very thing.
And he had a very good idea I think.

He had suggested that instead of buying all the players that the Celtic did in the transfer January, Mr Desmond should have bought the Rangers debt and then foreclosed on it immediately.

This would have immediately started an Insolvency Event that you mentioned and they would have been deducted the 10 points. But also they would have been forced to sell every asset to repay the debt.

Very funny I thought. lol

Fred C. Dobbs

are you suggesting there may be some hun infiltrators :-)

BigChipsUK - I pay more taxes than most people, and I can tell you I'm sick of being taxed to pay for anti-smoking campaigns, anti-drinking campaigns, and other nanny state foolishness.

The government is not our parents, and adults should be free to make their own choices. (thumbsup)

Tennents & Carling are the same company, just different brands within INBEV's beer portfolio. It could have easily have been Stella Artois that was used.

The decision was probably made two fold.
1)Tennents is a Scottish brand & Celtic are a Scottish Club. &
2) Change of sponsor means more shirts to be purchased by the fhans.

Hail Hail
KTF

Gerry

Ernie
I'm not BFDJ. I just don't buy all this doomsday stuff from Walter. He's a clever operator, not to be trusted. Same for his positive comments about Celtic signing Keane. He hates us and loves Rangers.

soldierbhoy,

as designated CQN chief hun skelper a few will be caught in the friendly cross fire. :-)

BigChipsUK,

I meant at football games.

I have followed Celtic, Eintracht, Scotland (formerly), Ireland, Germany all around the world and have never seen a riot. Nothing like it. I wasn´t allowed to go to the 1980?1 cup final ... but again it was they that couldn´t take the beating.... leopards spots etc.

I see punters getting smashed in Germany every night and dont see anything like it is in Scotland.

It´s simply cos the UK has a medieval mindset when it comes to drug policies. Keep the UK punters propping up the country with tax.

HAil Hail

PjDali

But in all respects i can see why!
I dont go to work on the Monday morning! lose or draw!
And get abuse! Ive been here for 6 years now!
It still hurts all the same, and the people who know me!
Will try and rub it in, as its the only thing that gets to me!
They more interested in AFL here! Not my cup of tea!
So they find my weakness! Celtic!
So i reckon i got it easier than most you Bhoys, Ghirls! Lol
But im a far from being a HUN! And it still hurts to be called 1.
When i shop on the net! its for me and my kid, and Good women!
We all have the ever strip, polo tops for work!
And i will post my facebook to prove it! if needed!Lol

Westy1888

Philvisreturns, "I am fed up with having to do without things I could otherwise afford", like getting to Celtic Park more than once or twice a season for starters!

By Dontbrattbackinanger on February 4, 2010 1:34 PM
Molly Malone- no, I'm not a Hun

...and you've got the CQN badges to prove it!

At what level of expansion does a clique cease to be a clique?

It may have been asked already, but whats the UEFA rules for teams in administration?

Can they still play in Europe if in admin?

GSC

Auldheid

Interesting reply. Do you mean that in general you think it's better for a weak Rangers to stay alive or do you mean something is being done deliberately at Celtic to keep Ramgers alive (or both!)

On an another point, to any CQN Cork residents: I'm over there for a stag do this weekend, I've been advised to go to Fordes for the game on Sunday - is that good advice?

Gerry
InBev sold Tennents to C&C(IRE).

Geoje-si Celt on February 4, 2010 1:41 PM

A 3 year ban is been sought by thee CFC .. which is due to be ratified by the financial and standard committee at a meeting scheduled for Monday the 19th April.

GoBrianQuinnGoCSC

Hail HAil

Dontbrattbackinanger on February 4, 2010 1:34 PM

I think that the premise is that if you aren't one of the first group of contributors to the site from its inception then you are 'a hun until you can prove otherwise'.

Within the first week of posting I was labelled a hun for daring to contradict the mighty Kojo our erstwhile poet laureat.

Anyone who knows me knows that is far from the truth; with me being good looking, intelligent, knuckles not dragging the floor etc.

If it makes you feel good I know you are not an orc from reading your previous posts

kepp the faith

Why don't C&C put Tennents on hun tops and Magners on ours. Would that make it any easier for those against the deal to swallow?

Flat5

Rathmullan House

or

The Waterfront.

Not cheap places, but highly recommended.

Enjoy.

May be home myself at Easter too.

TLOPG

philvisreturns

I suppose you don't mind paying taxes to fund the burden that smoking and alcohol abuse puts on the NHS, the criminal justice system etc etc?

By joshsdad on February 4, 2010 1:46 PM

"Within the first week of posting I was labelled a hun for daring to contradict the mighty Kojo our erstwhile poet laureat."

I don't see why you should take stick for that. Nobody contradicts Kojo more than Kojo

Johnnybhoy- I'm so angry I've stopped calling them 'Empire biscuits' and gone back to calling them 'German biscuits'.

TLOPG
Last week you offered a bit of advice for places(pubs/clubs) to go in London. Sorry I didn't get back to you.
There 5 of us. 3 married and 2 happy. Over on a Sat night.

Much as I'd like to believe we can somehow claw back the 10 points and make a fight of this league, I just can see it.

Look at our comparative league records since we beat the Huns last Christmas to go 7 points clear:

Celtic: P41 W 21 D13 L7 Pts: 76
Huns: P41 W29 D10 L2 Pts: 97

They're as dominant results-wise as they were in Wee Dick's heyday (without spending any money!) and I can't see injuries weakening them enough to drop the number of points we need.

That said, it's time we seen the fight in the team. Scrap for everything. Make them look over their shoulders all the way to the line. We need a midfield who can look at what Hartley and Robson did for us in that amazing run-in - and better it. We need ruthlessness in front on goal and solid, frightening NONE SHALL PASS defending. If we see all of these things I will be hopeful for the future. If not, we need to manage our under-performing managerial and playing assets.

First things first: a solid win against Dunfermline - do not gift wrap a treble for the Huns.

philvisreturns (1.36pm), I totally agree that responsible adults should be free to make their own choices, as long as they pay for these.

If I want a bigger house then I have the right to choose to buy, and pay for one.

If I want a designed watch then I have the right to choose to buy, and pay for one.

If I want an expensive, luxury car then I have the right to choose to buy, and pay for one.

If I want an exotic holiday then I have the right to choose to buy, and pay for one.

If I want to eat a cholesterol & fat rich but nutrition poor diet then I have the right to choose to do so, and pay for any medical treatment that I might need later in my life as a result of my deficient diet.

If I want to smoke then I have the right to choose to do so, and pay for any medical treatment that I might need later in my life as a result of my smoking.

If I want to drink alcohol excessively then I have the right to choose to do so, and pay for any medical treatment that I might need later in my life as a result of my excessive alcohol consumption.

If I want to smash up bus stops and injure myself in the process whilst drunk then I have the right to choose to do so (actually I probably don't, as vandalising third party property is a criminal offence!), and pay for the repair of the damaged bus stops and any medical treatment that I need to deal with my self inflicted injuries.

If we demand or cite rights then we must also accept responsibilities. The state owes us nothing that we have not justifiably earned.

Ernie Lynch - Smoking puts a burden on the criminal justice system?

I believe the NHS should be abolished and healthcare should be looked after by the free market. That way people would be responsible for funding the health implications of their own lifestyle choices.

Alcohol related crime, etc. is a consequence of living in a free society where alcohol is legal. (thumbsup)

Thanks for that ANNAOAN.

BTM Evening times today

“"But injuries and suspensions are part and parcel of football. You have to take them on the chin and keep going and not moan about it.”

With a chin like Tony's, you would think he would come up with a better catchphrase

As a Derry bhoy in my group of about 10 close mates, there's

2 x Celtic
6 x United
2 x Liverpool supporters

The reason being that it's not that easy to get the SPL matches on TV. So because of that we are forced to watch the EPL every weekend since we were young and eventually you start to follow a team. But of course I feel my love for Celtic is much greater than theres for united/liverpool because of the history. Plus the fact once and a while a derry bhoy makes the squad.

MC COURT FOR CAPTAIN :)

mort

swatragh, live in dublin now, dublin is anti-celtic and pro english teams. have actually went into pubs in dublin and been told they dont show celtic games, but they would have no prob showing any english matches. of course there are celtic fans in dublin, but heavily outnumbered by english supporters, just 1 reason why i see dublin is very much a west brit town

Ernie Lynch,

ahhhh Lazy journalism

if you read the BMJ then you will see that the treasury is losing a fortune on the taxes that are levied through cigarette smokers and that the treasury is now having to look elsewhere.

Basically it has been a case of smokers and drinkers funding the operations for ingrowing toe nails etc.

The sums dont add up for your assertion according to the BMA.

I can remember my father moaning if they spent the road tax on the roads they´d be gold plated.

Hail Hail

joshsdad on February 4, 2010 1:46 PM

My claim to fame is that I was called a "Hun" for defending Stephen Mc Manus.

Ironically , in a perverse way, I can see the logic behind it!

Keep her lit!

53

philvisreturns

Not sure if you had your tongue on your cheek, but personally I was absolutely delighted when the smoking ban in pubs and clubs was put into effect.

Passive smoking kills people.

TLOPG

joshsdad @ 1:46 PM

'I think that the premise is that if you aren't one of the first group of contributors to the site from its inception then you are 'a hun until you can prove otherwise'.'

I have been reading/posting on CQN for getting on for six years - Dontb is certainly one of longest & with Kojo definetly the most regular poster on this great site.

IF

Somebody disnae know that it's their credentials that need to be proved IMO!

joshysdad,
I think you were labled hun because someone else used joshy in their blog name, people immediately associated you with that sad little hun.

Cody: "... it's time we seen the fight in the team. Scrap for everything. Make them look over their shoulders all the way to the line ... solid, frightening NONE SHALL PASS defending."

Amen.

-----

Come back with your shield, or on it.

Not got time to read all comments, sorry, but I was under the impression that any team who was in administration at any point in the close season started the next season on minus 10.....but that may just be a Football League (down south) rule. This was brought in to prevent manipulation like Bates at Dirty Leeds. Thus the buns would have to be in and out of administration this season to prevent starting next year on -10....

Just my tuppence worth

Hail Hail

BigChipsUK @ 12:11 and 12:16

Haha very good!

I find this talk of winning 15 games in a row, nothing short of pure fantasy. I couldn't even bet on us going unbeaten for the 15 games.

A quick review of our games in 2010 -

Home v them - Should have won, missed chances, typical MIB, but appalling goal to lose from their one chance

Home v Falkirk - turgid performance (strachan-esque), should possibly have won

Away v Morton - should have won by more v lower division - bit of a huff and puff game

Away v St Johnstone - Appalling shambles of a first half performane, though losing to a very soft penalty. I'm convinced had the man not been sent off, we would have lost this game.

Home v Hibs - had our chances but the usual schoolboy defending leads to yet another home defeat for Tony.

Away v Hamilton - Really turgid performance probably just deserved to win, but not a lot to shout about

Away to Kilmarnock - chances again, but yet more schoolboy defending and a total lack of heart in the 2nd half - yet another defeat for Tony.

Now we are all set up for 15 wins in a row.....

HAPPY ARE THOSE WHO CANNOT SEE!

Celtic player McGeady accused of speeding

From STV site....

why not old firm player accused of speeding? hmmmmmmmm

I have been called a Donegal residing Orangeman. Is that the same as being called a Hun?

ineedacliqueCSC

DownForSam

No problem. Just one thing, can you tell me the area you are staying? i.e. Leicester Square / Knightsbridge / Earl's Court etc.

Then I can put together a couple of options for you.

TLOPG

delbhoy01
This 'west brit' label for those watching EPL is a ridiculous one. Perhaps they just prefer watching better football than the EPL. Most people i know in Kerry couldn't care less about Celtic or the SPL and support an english team. I can't blame them either. Compare last weekend's Hamilton game with Man U v Arsenal on the sunday and it is not hard to say what was the best game. Why should anyone support Celtic who is not Scottish? If they want to watch an irish team they tend to watch the Republic, the local GAA side or even Munster. Most people just like watching the EPL because it is good to watch!

No longer living in Scotland, I am struggling to understand exactly what the main issue with this Tennents sponsorship deal actually IS for most people. Is it because it is a Joint deal with Der Hun or is it because it is a crap lager? Personally speaking I could not give two hoots who the sponsor is, I am only interested in what the team are doing on the park. In an ideal world it would be good if we had our own independent revenue stream that exceeded the Hunz, but for me we have far bigger issues to wrestle with than what logo we have on the front of our shirts. Bit of perspective surely?

SupposeI'llbecalledahunnowCSC

By philvisreturns on February 4, 2010 1:50 PM

"I believe the NHS should be abolished and healthcare should be looked after by the free market. That way people would be responsible for funding the health implications of their own lifestyle choices."

Well said! You believe in me, no doubt!I could have done with you in my cabinet instead of those lily livered pinko chameleons like Tebbit and Ridley.

"we're going to melt them down for pills and soap" Another young man who had vision. Wish I had thought of that.

At least speeding implies some degree of extra effort. Our defense would have been standing on the curb ...

As for the joint sponsorship agreement, I will not be renewing my season ticket next season. I will be buying no more merchandise and I will be watching games on tinterweb streams, I do not believe the board have the club, shareholders or supporters interest at heart, they have in their tenure gradually killed the magic for me, I no longer have any interest in financing either directly or indirectly this PLC.

On the administration thing.
I may be wrong, but I think that there is a cut off point in the season, beyond which a club cannot enter administration.

This prevents a club with a plus ten point lead from acting the maggot.

Geoje-si Celt

I don't think UEFA have any regulations regarding clubs in administration playing in their tournaments.

It seems to be left to domestic associations to deal with.

heatleader & TLOPG

Cheers

Hola
Totally agree with all posters saying the shame will not go out of business/admin.It will not happen even celtic minded MPs are bidding for them,so don't even think about it.
Also agree about the Irish and their love for Celtic,EPL teams 1st Celtic 2nd,not a problem,but I totally disagree about the rest of the world,here in very rural Spain to a man all football people love Celtic,I even have my Spanish neighbours kids wearing Celtic tops,I also saw a poll from Kansas University in the good old USA,the students were asked to name 5 football clubs,results were
1st...Bocca Juniors
2nd...Real madrid
3rd...Celtic
4th...AC Milan
5th...Man Utd
Kansas was picked for their lack of being football minded.
Agree should have tried the far east for sponser,we have the next Korean superstar & the Chineese captain,must have been worth a punt.
I will say it again and again,get the midfield sorted and we can win this league.
KTF
Hail Hail
Also forget the poll thing about our manager...all it is good for is to undermind us,forget it.

Now surely we can all agree that Margaret Thatcher is a hun??

A minute's silence for all those who should be dead.

What if the Huns were 13pts ahead with a superior goal-difference going into the final league game?

Could they still go into administration and have the 10 points deducted in this years league?

When do the point deductions take effect? Would there be any other penalties (apart from the last minute ones at Ibrox)?

A truely scary thought if this situation materialised and they could get away with it?

Shaunbhoy.

Posted exactly that three / four days ago. Really can't get my head around all the fuss.

philvisreturns

You're either a moron or you're at the wind up.

Have you ever considered moving to Somalia?

They have the sort of laissez faire system of government you prefer.

Dbbia 1.50pm

:))

There are a KING amongst mere confectionary!

By Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on February 4, 2010 12:19 PM

you have been correct in your predictions all along, the PLC board are morally repugnant.

well they have lost one customer in me with this continued strategy of being in bed with Rangers FC, Im sure there will be many of thousands like me.

such loose morals for filthy money and short term gain. Absolutely disgusted with them. Hobsons choice? what a load of tripe

Gordon_J

I am not dead yet. While there are evil acts to commit in this world, I shall never die

Lady Gaga

PjDali,

I think even the Huns knew we didn’t want this deal.

Just our Board it seems. So a cannae even call them Huns.

margaret thatcher,

Gaga is the word! Is it true that Tony Blair is your secret lovechild??

Ernie

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/download/regulations/uefa/others/77/40/04/774004_download.pdf

article 41h and article 55 in it´s entirety.

HAil Hail

Why do the Irish support teams from a country that occupied their country for 400 years?

oisin71Author Profile Page on February 4, 2010 2:06 PM

Did you not read my post? Does anybody read my posts?:>)

thomthethimAuthor Profile Page on February 4, 2010 2:03 PM

the only evil acts that Margaret Thatcher commits today is in a potty

HAil Hail

By assetmanager on February 4, 2010 2:14 PM

Because people are easily manipulated and Sky has been shoving the EPL in there faces since they were born.

By Estadio Nacional on February 4, 2010 12:59 PM

If only! Can you imagine? Approx 9,000 Celtic tickets refunded multiplied by however many (umpteen) games we've been cheated out of at Mordor? That would sink that festering pit easily, never mind any other financial matters!

Paul67,

"perhaps use of a customer focus group on this occasion would have averted some dissatisfaction"

I have been thinking about this over the past few days and came to the following conclusion, although I did not post my thoughts on it:

Could you not persuade those that be in Celtic PLC to use CQN as one of these 'focus groups' (after all many of the staff already use CQN apparentl!y) and perhaps in return get them to foot the bill to solve the bandwidth problems that the site has been experiencing recently?

If this has already been raised, then apologies to that poster or posters, i've not had time to read through the blog today.

D_D

PS: please use a url when using 'New Article Posted'! (small bug bear of mine!)

assetmanager

Why do some Celtic fans support St Pauli?

Look what the Luftwaffe did to Clydebank.

There wasn't one chip shop left standing.

joshsdad

I remember that altercation with Kojo. I myself may have backed him up but as Camalar said, prior to your arrival we had a poster called Joshybhoy who was quickly outed and returned using a series of other monikers with josh in the title.

He was quite persistent and started off normal enough before quickly showing his true colours while telling everyone about how much money he had etc. I suppose we assumed (incorrectly) that you were another incarnation of that poster and I don't think I have apologised since so I apologise now for thinking you were a hun.

I have read many of your posts since and while I don't agree with them all (don't agree with all of anybodys!) I was too quick to pass judgement and don't think you are the same poster and therfore not a hun.

Hail Hail

Mort

assetmanager

Do you think a 5 year old Irish boy who enjoys watching say Van Persie on MOTD should not support Arsenal because of what oliver Cromwell et al did? Are you for real?

Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_NooAuthor Profile Page on February 4, 2010 2:14 PM

I don't know if it is just my computer, but the link you posted is causing my mouse to freeze.

monthetic

i said:just 1 reason why i see dublin is very much a west brit town.
i said this as, i and other dublin people i know see many dublin people as wanting to be english and trying to lose their irish identity, following english teams is 1 example, deliberately not showing celtic games is another, flying english flags outside pubs etc, not showing gaa matches - instead showing english soccer games, having no prob with the queen coming to ireland or orange order marches through centre of dublin, will i go on ?
i wouldnt be so stupid to call anyone in my local a west brit just because they support an english team, i am saying there are a cumulative number of factors which contribute to the phrase

Ernie Lynch - I'm a moron, eh? At least I have manners. (thumbsup)

The Legend of Peter Grant - I don't really want to get into a smoking debate today, but there's not a lot of evidence to suggest passive smoking is as harmful as has been claimed. Anyway, the point of smoking bans and other health crusades has nothing to do with public welfare and everything to do with the neo-puritanistic, controlling impulses of the modern political and media elite. I see they're already talking up sanctions against fat people.

First they came for the smokers... (thumbsup)

Margaret Thatcher - I am honoured. However, the real Mrs T increased NHS funding during her administration. (thumbsup)

Canamalar,

"they have in their tenure gradually killed the magic for me, I no longer have any interest in financing either directly or indirectly this PLC"

You've written exactly how I have felt since the season MoN left. I wish to support and fund a football Team/Club not a PLC!

By killerheels on February 4, 2010 1:22 PM

The red T issue is something that concerns me too. I've never seen it displayed as any colour other than red but surely the board won't bow down to sponsorship money, a sponsorship with the huns, and wear a logo on our jerseys that is one of THEIR colours?

I remember the stink when we had Peoples on our jerseys (orange AND blue no less). A pathetic decision by a desperate board. Surely we've moved on from that?

I know sure as hell, no matter how skint they are, they'd NEVER have green on their tops. That they are the most intolerant bunch of non-people explains this, but they'd have the balls to stand up for themselves.

Tony Blair visits me and cuts up my food for me. Together we reminisce (he has to do that bit mostly)about the wonderful misery we inflicted on people. My favourite was how my policies drove desperate people to end their own existence. And they called that kind of thing self inflicted. Stuff and nonsense! The credit should all be mine.

Potty? Me,Lady Gaga?

D_D,

Do you honestly believe the Board didn't know the general feeling of the fans on this? That would be unbelievable!

thomthetim,

not guilty !

You have lots of apps open a tiny computer or an ancient version of adobe ??

It´s the new proposed UEFA licensing laws superceding the previous inept laws that allow you to gain a licence. Without that license you can forget about European football.

HAil Hail

THE EXILED TIM on February 4, 2010 2:05 PM

Have you got a link to the Kansas University poll ... Few people I'd like to show that to.

Cheers

On th every first Celtic strip the badge was a black Celtic cross on a red background, so we have used red before.

And of course against Leeds we wore red socks.

PjDali,
Just wanted to confirm that I said that you sounded like an imposter. Not that you were.

I would never accuse anyone of actually being one
That would be too harsh ;0)

monthetic on February 4, 2010 2:20 PM
assetmanager

Do you think a 5 year old Irish boy who enjoys watching say Van Persie on MOTD should not support Arsenal because of what oliver Cromwell et al did? Are you for real?

Not the demographic I had in mind. I don't really expect a child to know any better.

delbhoy01
If i wnated to watch a Barca match in a pub rather than a SPL match would i therefore be a 'North Spaniard'? Maybe a lot of people are secure enough in their Irish identity without having to watch Scottish football to compliment it

philvus...,
you must have a great big library full of "not a lot of evidence to support" as basically every major discussion facing the world and its population you have raised this not a lot of evidence counter argument, I'm begining to suspect you are just a contrary indian.

assetmanager on February 4, 2010 2:14 PM

We've a vested interest.

We built that country

philvisreturns

"Margaret Thatcher - I am honoured. However, the real Mrs T increased NHS funding during her administration. (thumbsup)"

as I say.... lily livered pinko chameleons in my cabinet. They even baulked at shooting the miners and the unemployed (many of whom used to be miners).

Hilda

Mr Understanding

I have no doubts that it will be red T on the jersey. Rangers will display the red T and if we ask to display the logo in any other colour we will be the ones laughed at in the papers for not wanting red on the jersey.

Mort

assetmanager

5 years old would be whan many people decide who 'their team' is for whatever reason. I do expect an adult to use common sense and see that football is a sport and it is laughable to bring Irish history into a debate about the EPL

Was Cardihun informed last night about BoE ditching the latest money print run ?

Bad news for those sitting on toxic debts hoping for a miracle

Man with a crown， the one that always frowns，
Id rather have a hat， than a broken back.
Show you a man with a lot on his mind，
Ill show you a self confessed trendsetter oh，
because the man said no.
Live like a king for a day， skint for the rest of the week.
Say your nothing special， say your lying through your teeth.
Its just our way， why should we throw away a sunny day?
We should not!
Its just our way， why should we throw away a sunny day?
Its the realisation your not ten feet tall，
the realisation you dont know it all.
World domination makes you feel so small，
Realisation of it all.
Stealing， coppers off your mantelpiece.
Stumbling , through life without one good deed，
and youre not living for tomorrow， dealing with some sorrow.
Competing with the neighbours， waiting for that six number saviour oh.
Buy some brew with some ill gained currency
what a nice way to spend every day
never had beamer， never been a dreamer.
Your barks worse than， worse than your bite，
why should we throw away a sunny day?
The night has overcome your apocalyptic way.
Its the realisation your not ten feet tall，
the realisation you dont know it all.
World domination makes you feel so small，
Realisation of it all.
Realisation your not ten feet tall，
realisation you dont know it all
World domination makes you feel so small，
Realisation of it all.
Take for granted Eagers omen，
Stories lost its moment.
Take for granted Eagers omen，
Stories lost its moment.
Take for granted Eagers omen，
Dryburgh Stories lost its moment.

HAil Hail

What I notice in Belfast is that for EPL supporters, Protestants are much more likely to folloe Liverpool than Catholics whose Premiership team tends to be Man U or Arsenal.
This obviously doesn't bother me except from a curiosity point of view. Is it a hangover from the times when there were sectarian tensions in Liverpool?

By Dontbrattbackinanger on February 4, 2010 2:27 PM

I just can't see red as anything other than a hun colour. And as for red socks, we all know the story about their red topped ones.

Shaunbhoy

My brother Stephen remembers you well, you used to hang about together, I had my suspicions that I knew you on the blog but I also remember you well. You will also know "Big Price" who is also joining for a pint Friday.

Stephen sends his regards.

Take it easy.

Hail Hail!

RobinBhoy

Dontbrattbackinanger,
against Leeds the socks were in fact orange. When we arrived at Elland Road our kitman had forgotten to pack ours. Revie, in trying to destabilise us lent us them. It backfired upon him and we won anyway.
However, for me the point is "Does it really matter?"
There are people on here claiming we should prove that we are not like the Hunz then, hypocritically, praising them because they would never allow any green on their shirts. Which is it?
It is akin to folk standing on the deck of the Titanic whining that the lifejacket they had been issued was a colour they didn't like!!
Can't believe the interest this topic is generating!!

By Mort on February 4, 2010 2:30 PM

Which makes the board's decision all the more angering, for me anyway, putting us in that position.

By Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_NooAuthor Profile Page on February 4, 2010 2:25 PM

thomthetim,

not guilty !

You have lots of apps open a tiny computer or an ancient version of adobe ??

I presume the above is written in an obscure German dialect, or perhaps it is clear to someone who knows about computers.

Have you any idea how old I am? :>)

Hi Maggie

When are you going to die? so I can relieved myself on your grave, I've been holding it in for ages and my back teeth are begining to float.

Bursting CSC

Tony Blair said that I was the most evil, dreadful and wickedly despotic politician ever to manipulate the unemployment figures..... I smiled shyly and thanked him profusely. I also blushed red when he asked me for my autograph.

Doctored Roberts

Donegal Danny,

My old man's from Donegal, near Annagry and only supported Man Utd. before he moved to Glasgow in the late 60's when he started to follow Celtic as all his relatives would go to the games over here. He had a small liking for Celtic due to his relatives from Scotland going over to visit him during the summers but his team is Man Utd. When I queried him about it he says it was the English league that was mainly reported in the newspapers and only occasionally was Scottish football mentioned in a big article.He was first and foremost a GAA man but this has mostly disappeared due to emigrating here.

D_D

Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

Thanks for the link.

None of that prevents a club in administration taking part in a Uefa competition does it?

Robinbhoy,
cheers mate, my regards to you all. I'll get to one of these QMA reunions someday.

Hail hail

I saw a mention of Clydebank and to associate that with Tennents can I say that Celtic friendly pub Chandlers in Clydebank sells the worlds most gassy pint of Tennents lager. The head just keeps growing until you have a Mr Whippy topping.:-)

5 year old Irish boys watch Spongebob Squarepants.

They've a bit of sense.

Thomthethim,

LOL

You need to download a new Adobe PDF reader I reckon.

you can the original article from here

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/keytopics/kind=128/newsid=919302.html

search for "2008 UEFA Club Licensing Regulations" once the above page has been loaded and click on it.

HAil Hail

Fred C. Dobbs,

I'm pretty sure they know the fans/customers feelings but if it helps Paul sort out the bandwidth issues without anyone having to pay to view the blog it's the very least the club, sorry PLC, could do as after all i'm sure they do use it as one of their mechanisms to gauge fan reaction.

D_D

Shaunbhoy- I believe the socks were red , but looked orange under the floodlights.

Anyway, it's not the Tennents I object to; it's the sharing of the thirty pieces of silver with the Horribles

By Shaunbhoy on February 4, 2010 2:33 PM

Cant agree more, issue is having joint sponsor not what colour it is, even if its green im not wearing it. SPONSORLESS jerseys until board remove them from shop!!!!

By Shaunbhoy on February 4, 2010 2:33 PM

What I'm saying is that these things should be taken into consideration before an agreement is reached. We've backed ourselves into a corner and now will be running out with a) a sponsorship no one wants b) in a jersey a lot of guys on here are not going to buy (sans sponsor) and c) in one of the main colours of the hun.

I don't want to be anything like them but they wouldn't stand for it. Why do we?

I'm not happy about it. That's all.

Ernie Lynch.

What ?????? Really ???? That wasn´t my take on it at all. Is there a Rangers exclusion clause ? Do you need to Iron the document and that becomes apparent ?

No need to be so concerned Ernie Celtic finances are well in order.

Stop worrying about it. :-)

HAil Hail

all this talk about giving Tony time until the end of season.
ok what happens when he gets them playing good football and of course winning nothing and all the loan players leave at the end of this season. do we let him start from scratch all over again?

DBBIA,

the socks were blue naw ?

Is Dryborough's Keg Heavy still around? And their colours? Are they fine?

"Drink the beer that's bright and clear.Drink Dryborough's Keg Heavy"

ianinascoli

Are you sure it is beer they sell in Chandlers? as I have been in there a few times.

By Mr Understanding on February 4, 2010 2:43 PM

Buy the top but without the sponsor, lets see how many we can buy before the board remove them from sale.

BUY SPONSORLESS JERSEYS

dziekanowskis_dazzlers on February 4, 2010 2:35 PM

Fair do's mate.

My experiences are different, both my grandfathers, one from Brinalack and one from Gortahork were Celtic men and my father who went from Gweedore to London first in the late 50s early 60s to work is a Celtic man with a soft spot for Arsenal.

Gweedore was predominantly Celtic which was proved by the local team being Gweedore Celtic who have exisited from the early part of the 20th century. Even teams who were eventually merged with Gweedore Celtic from the surrounding areas had the name like Glassagh Celtic along with other teams like Foreland Dynamos.

And of course there's the association of DOnegal CSCs even today which is quite large.

DD

Pete the beat

I,ve always considered Liverpool the catholic team and Everton the proddy team bit like Hearts & Hibs Dundee& Dunden Unt.I don,t think it is so prominent nowadays.

When Celtic, led by Stein, went to Elland Road to play the first leg of the European Cup semi-final in 1970 Gray was given an insight into big Jock's genius for seizing the initiative in any situation.
He said: "Both sides wore white socks and the referee ordered Celtic to change.
"We had to offer them one of the two sets of colours Leeds used, namely red or blue.
The blue ones were out for obvious reasons and Big Jock took the other lot.
"His reasoning was that red would look like orange under the floodlights and the Celtic fans would think their team was wearing the colours of the Irish tricolour."

Talking of Catholics,

Billy fae Brigton called Radio Clyde's phone-in regarding the Pope's visit to Glasgow..

"I think it's terrible they're cutting down trees in Glasgow Green for the Papal visit".

That's very noble says the presenter. Are you some kind of environmentalist?
.
.
.
.
.

"Naw I'm a sniper", says Billy.

or we could go for McEwan's Pale Ale (green can)
Usher's Pale Ale (green can)
Carlsberg (green can)

Toilet Duck do a green bottle.

we could wind the Huns up that he big T in fact stands for TIM and that it is a catholic inspired conspiracy at boardroom level in Tennents and that just before the strips go to print they will review their corporate colours to Emerald Green with Gold trimming. In my dreams!

CaltonTongues February 4, 2010 2:48 PM

Was that Billy E. Mentalist ? :-)

HAil HAil

Pete the Beat
Correction it should rear

I,ve always considered Liverpool the prod team and Everton the catholic team bit like Hearts & Hibs Dundee& Dunden Unt.I don,t think it is so prominent nowadays.
The old brain does not work as good as it used to.

Mr Understanding,
we don't know that they were NOT taken into consideration though. Perhaps, despite the opposition to it being a joint sponsorship, it was still, financially at least, the best deal around by a country mile?
The Hunz will not live or die on the back of an annual £1.5M sponsors deal. Their future will be determined far more markedly by what we do to them on the pitch. That is what concerns me at present.
Personally I'd be happy to wear a big red "T" if only to show the Hun that I am not as small-minded as they are, and to highlight the fact that I am a proud Tim that is not hung up on such petty emblems. If people don't want that I can accept that. Buy one without the logo on, job done.

KTF

'There was a conundrum for Celtic before the kick-off. As both teams normally wore white stockings the away team would have to change. Though Celtic claimed they thought Leeds had agreed to do so. This meant that Celtic did not have an adequate replacement with them, but never fear Leeds stepped in to offer them an alternative. They could wear blue or red.

"We'll wear the red stockings," said Jock Stein, sensing a little bit of gamesmanship from Leeds. "Under their floodlights, they"ll show up more orange than red and our supporters will think that we're wearing the colours of the Irish tricolour. That'll please them."

-lifted from KDS, which is not [yet] under the control of evilWebmaster Lenny Murdoch.

timjim

You've got that the wrong way round.

Everton are/were regarded as the Irish/Catholic team and Liverpool were the other lot.

It doesn't seem to have been much of an issue. Typical Scouse gits, can't take anything seriously.

Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on February 4, 2010 2:51 PM

No, I think it was Billy D.O.B. Mentalist:-)

TENNENTSICECOLDcsc

Guys

Can someone confirm if any team goes into administration then the players registrations are effectively handed back to the players?

I thought I read that somewhere and if true then any bank would be mad to seek administration if they considered the players realisable assets.

Only when the main players had been sold and as much money as possible secured from those transfers would administration be viable.

I suspect that is what worries Wattie in that the strategy for the dark hordes may well be to secure a buyer and if that does not happen then every player that can be sold will be sold to recoup as much cash as possible.

It seems to me that if in Rangers situation the bank thought administration was the wisest course of action they would have taken it already.

These news reports are ratching up the hatred of Lloyds (and by extension Muir) because if the suggested or hinted at strategy does come to pass then it will effectively be their Under-19's team that will be competing for them next year (even God forbid in the CL)

It only highlights again how much we need to sort our own issues out.

Donegal Danny,

I'd agree about the large number of CSC's in Donegal and perhaps my fatehr is one of the odd few but what I was trying to say is I don't think it is merely a recent thing...I think it goes way back and it's due to the fact it is the English leagues that get more of the prime real estate in the media.

I myself support first football, then celtic and Man Utd (as well as it being my fathers team, my grandfather was friendly with Matt Busby and a distant relative played for them).

Interesting question I think - How many of you would consider yourself first and foremost a football supporter and then a Celtic supporter?

D_D

Here is a thing......

Celtic are guaranteed to win the league next year and are hot favourites to win it the following year.

The reason? Well apparently you cannot transform the team in one season and expect to do well, you have to bed them in, take defeat on the chin and look to the future!

If that is the case Rangers will either be:

a) tranforming their team with new investment (unlikely) in which case they will be in our position next year

b) downsizing with reserves with one or two SPL players

c) stay still

Therefore, the logic follows that they cannot win the league next season!

I've just googled Lenny Murdoch

The BBC "Lenny is the local hard man, famed for terrorising The Adams family"

I would have thought, with a family that keeps a hand in a box, it would have been the other way round.

Could Tennents be pursuaded to put a green T on our shirts? The other lot would hardly boycott their own sponsors would they?

doesnt Goodison have a chapel integrated into the ground?

SMD

Ernie
Thanks I realise that and reposted as you will see.
I must check my posts before I submit.
Hail Hail we can still win this league

dziekanowskis_dazzlers

Interesting question I think - How many of you would consider yourself first and foremost a football supporter and then a Celtic supporter?

Definately a Celtic supporter first and foremost. To be honest I don't even care that much for football. I can't remember the last game I watched that didn't involve Celtic or Ireland, (probably the last European Championships as i quite like them and World Cups).

Give me a game of gaelic football anyday.

Hail Hail

Mort

'Internet addiction' linked to depression, says study
A teenager on his computer
Any direct causal link between internet use and depression remains unclear

There is a strong link between heavy internet use and depression, UK psychologists have said.

The study, reported in the journal Psychopathology, found 1.2% of people surveyed were "internet addicts", and many of these were depressed.

The Leeds University team stressed they could not say one necessarily caused the other, and that most internet users did not suffer mental health problems.

The conclusions were based on 1,319 responses to an on-line questionnaire.

Recruitment was via links on social networking sites. People were asked how much they used the internet and for what purposes.

They were also asked a series of questions to assess whether they suffered from depression.

If a web addict is substituting meaningful friendships and socialising with virtual contact on the internet, this might have an adverse affect on their mental wellbeing

The authors found that a small number of users had developed a compulsive internet habit, replacing real life social interaction with online chat rooms and social networking sites.

They classed 18 respondents - 1.2% of the total - as "internet addicts".

This group spent proportionately more time on sex, gambling and online community websites.

Lead author Dr Catriona Morrison said: "The internet now plays a huge part in modern life, but its benefits are accompanied by a darker side.

"While many of us use the internet to pay bills, shop and send e-mails, there is a small subset of the population who find it hard to control how much time they spend online, to the point where it interferes with their daily activities."

The internet addicts were significantly more depressed than the non-addicted group, with a depression score five times higher.

The average score of the internet-addicted group put them in the category of moderate-to-severe levels of depression.

There is no good evidence that the problem is the internet itself
Dr Vaughan Bell of King's College London

"Our research indicates that excessive internet use is associated with depression, but what we don't know is which comes first - are depressed people drawn to the internet or does the internet cause depression?" said Dr Morrison.

"Now we need to investigate the nature of that relationship and consider the issue of causation."

Critics of the research say that internet addiction cannot be diagnosed reliably.

Dr Vaughan Bell, from the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London said that by definition, those identified as "internet addicts" are emotionally distressed, so the conclusions are "not a big surprise".

In terms of cause and effect, he pointed out that previous research has suggested that people who are depressed or anxious may be more likely to use the internet rather than the other way round.

He added: "There are genuinely people who are depressed or anxious who use the internet to the exclusion of the rest of their lives, but there are similar people who watch too much TV, bury themselves in books or go shopping to excess.

"There is no good evidence that the problem is the internet itself."

Mental Health charities said the way people spend their time and the kind of social interaction they engage in could well impact on mental wellbeing.

Dr Andrew McCulloch, chief executive of the Mental Health Foundation, pointed out that, in some ways, the internet can be helpful.

He said: "To the extent that the internet encourages meaningful friendships and social connections it can be a very good influence on people's lives.

"However, social interaction online should not usually replace an offline social life. We should take note of this study's findings - it suggests that further research in the area is needed."

Sophie Corlett, of the mental health charity Mind, said: "Evidence suggests that active pursuits such as exercise and socialising with people face-to-face are among the factors that help us stay in good mental health.

"Although excessive internet use can't be said to cause mental health problems, if a web addict is substituting meaningful friendships and socialising with virtual contact on the internet, this might have an adverse affect on their mental wellbeing unless they are huns of course."

Hail Hail

dziekanowskis_dazzlers on February 4, 2010 2:56 PM

I'm a Celtic fan first and foremost, football is an integral part of it but without merely using rhetoric we are more than a football club.

I only ever get bothered by 3 results Celtic, the Republic and Donegal.

DD

I was built from bits of hitler

I notice when we go to Lanzarote(Old Town) usually go into the Blarney Stone pub, TVs everywhere all with different matches on the english game is on the big screen and Celtic game is on one of smaller TVs.

donegaldanny

You'll have been happy at the weekend with Donegal retaining the McKenna Cup. I saw most of the game but changed channels after Tyrone went a point up in the 78th or 79th min and the next time I looked Donegal were being handed the trophy.

Had to wait until the papers the next morning to see yous got a goal straight away after I turned off but I sort of thought that was the case.

Hard to guage how things will go based on that as it really is just a friendly tournament but Donegal are definately going in the right direction. Who do you have in Ulster first round? The draw could be good with Derry and Armagh in the preliminarys.

Mort

D_D,

I imagine Paul would rather keep the blog independent of the Board, even if we have to chip in. See what you’re saying though.

I am just so angry about this joint sponsorship cos I believed that this time they would listen. More fool me. In all my years posting here I have never openly had a go at our Club, but this is beyond the pale for me. :O(

We should try and incorporate the Tennents T with our Club

badge in Centre of top to look like a "celtic " cross.

Get it right up der hvn.

phils

once again i find myself totally at odds with your version of history

did you have kids at school/or hospital during her reign

not enough books for each kid
repairs stopped- rain coming into classes
teachers stopping taking football cause she stopped them getting paid for time spent
class sizes up to 35/40
hospital waiting lists doubled /trebled
complete communities cast aside and forgotton
unemployment trebled

so please i and many others lived through this period and saw the damage she caused so yes everyone has the right of opinion but please leave your support of this despicable person at the front door

Awe Naw...

Thanks. I read that article previously

I'm with celticfoo on this one. Whilst I don't see the point in having jerseys without a sponsor, a huge groundswell of support in buying them will hopefully leave all concerned with no doubt as to the feeling of the support be it about the sponsorship deal in in general or the logo the team have to wear.

Just thinking though, it's not just the huns. Would Liverpool wear blue? Everton red? Man U? Man City?

From the official Huns website - (i know i feel dirty)

Cheers! Tennent's Sponsor Old Firm

SCOTLAND'S leading brewer Tennent's Lager has today announced a multi-million pound three-year sponsorship of R*****s and Celtic Football Clubs, bringing together three of Scotland's most iconic brands.

From the official Celtic website.

Celtic announce shirt deal with Tennent's lager

"And the new sponsorship deal will also see Tennent's Lager sponsor R******s"

They are well aware we do not want to be associated with the Huns, they don't care, the jerseys have been sold and shrunk to fit.

Paul67, you made a very good point earlier on about the AGM being the place to address this. It is difficult for some of us who don't live locally to attend the AGM, even Dermot finds it tricky to make every AGM,due to it usually being on a weekday. Harder still if you have jobs and kids, hence you usually end up with muppets asking questions such as "why does samaras not get his haircut" and jolly backslapping and chortling as the chairman makes his wee cracks about holy willies.

I've attended a couple of AGMs and even managed to ask a question of Brian Quinn at one, which I'm still waiting on an answer to some 6 years later. At least Mr Quinn was courteous when providing a different answer to the question I asked.

Our current chairman does not appear to tolerate dissent or disagreement from the cheap seats, his comments to Jeanette Findlay are evidence of this. How then do we ask a challenging question of our board ?

Fergus once proposed to hold the AGMs on a weekend to accommodate more shareholders, do you know if there is any way
this may be done in the future?

'On that Thursday afternoon 5,000 fans packed Glasgow Central train station to see Celtic return.

The station's switchboard had been bombarded all day, with fans asking when the team's train was arriving. British Rail had set up a special path, ringed by metal barriers to control the crowds.

As Celtic's train pulled into the platform they burst into song. A tremendous roar erupted when Jock Stein emerged.

Jock Stein said, "This is a tremendous reception. Once again the Celtic fans have proved how great they are."

A bewildered George Connelly said, "This homecoming is really something."

shimmies33

Not that I want to stand up for Margaret Thatcher but

Teachers NEVER got paid for taking football.

The Tory Government introduced LMS ( Local Mabagement of Schools)which paid school budgets directly to the schools giving them greater autonomy in spending. In my experience this was what reduced class size.

It also meant - again in my experience - more resources -books, AU Equipment and teachers / CA's in schools.

Suggested banner for next Celtic Rangers game at Celtic Park....

" Shameless => "

Everton FC were founded at St Domingo's Methodist Church. They originally played at Anfield, but when they moved to Goodison the man who owned Anfield started Liverpool FC to take their place.

jc2

While we're at it let's add on a pint glass and coaster! Ayr right!

What's a hvn? Some kicking about close by!

CRC

Mort on February 4, 2010 3:08 PM

Last minute goals are usually our style! Ah as you say these tournaments are more about fitness etc especially with the colleges being involved.

Its hard to say as league form usually doesn't matter once the Championship starts. If we keep our young players from going Aussie rules then I think we're looking good, but then again I say that every year.

I've a good steer on the Mayo team as well and if they can get a bit of bite about them they could go very far, some exceptional young players coming through and to be honest O'Mahoney has one last chance to get to the final or I'd say his time is over.

DD

I have to say that I have a soft spot for Tennants since the original photo on the sweetheart stout bottle was of my gran.

Unfortunately she had to give it up when my granda got his sweetheart stout with my mum.

Striker Scott McDonald has insisted he did not fall out with Celtic boss Tony Mowbray to hasten his move to Middlesbrough.

And the 26-year-old Australia international is adamant Mowbray wanted him to stay at Parkhead.

But McDonald, who this week joined the Teessiders in a deal understood to be worth around £3.2million, eventually took the difficult decision to head south of the border in an effort to keep his World Cup dreams alive.

He said: "I wasn't too happy with not playing as regularly as I would have liked. There was no fall out, as was suggested, between me and the manager.

"There was nothing like that going on. Relationships were very good. They wanted me to stay at the football club, but I felt I needed to get more game time.

"I had worked under this manager [Gordon Strachan] beforehand and I believe I played my best football under him, so it was another chance to team up with him and Garry Pendrey and try to progress even more as a player and keep getting better and better.

"With the World Cup at stake at the end of the season, that was a massive factor also."

McDonald admitted he agonised over the move, adding: "It was massive. I had to sit and really have a long, hard think about it, especially with the family.

"Celtic was a club I supported growing up, I was brainwashed into it by my Glaswegian parents, so it was quite difficult.

"It was a massive honour to play for the club for two and a half years and is something I will always treasure and always have with me.

"I leave, I would like to think, with a lot of success under my belt. Hopefully I can do the same for Middlesbrough and help us get promoted."

McDonald is one of five former Celtic men to have followed Strachan to the Riverside Stadium during the winter transfer window, and another of them, central defender Stephen McManus, was equally split over his decision to leave the Bhoys on loan until the end of the season.

He said: "Obviously, it was a big decision for me to leave. I have been there from being 14, so you make a lot of good friends at the club and played with some wonderful players.

"As a footballer everybody is different and you want to win things. When you are brought up at Celtic you have got a winning mentality for trophies and the chance to play in Champions League games.

"In that instance, it was a big decision. But with Gordon Strachan in charge, that was a big factor for a lot of the players.

"It's a fresh challenge for us all and it's one we are looking forward to."

The mass exodus from Parkhead comes at a time when Celtic are trailing in the wake of Rangers, with Mowbray's critics becoming increasingly vociferous.

However, McManus was diplomatic when asked about the situation he has left behind.

The 27-year-old said: "That happens in football. There are some wonderful players who have come in, especially in the transfer window, which for Celtic is great to see."

Meanwhile, Boro have failed in an attempt to extend Aston Villa midfielder Isaiah Osbourne's loan spell.

Lawells picks..am i right in assuming that Ki and Keane were not Mowbrays targets? and therefore that of the chief executives[refer also to Lawells insistence that HE had been chasing Keane for a number of seasons] and is there anything contractually to say that they are both first picks in the team?..worrying if the chief exec is exerting authority in team matters and selection.
anyone know? or heard anything
regards

Long term lurker, first time poster, I thought that after the Tennents announcement I wanted to post my displeasure. I am upset with the Boards position regarding this Joint Sponsorship and the disregard of the feelings of section of Celtic Support who feel that this is a backward step in moving our Club forward. I cannot quantify the figures or percentages as facts but most of the Celtic supporters in my work, on my supporters bus, my section of the ground and my Celtic supporting friends when discussing this proposal, state that it is time to move away from the joint association of Celtic and Rangers. Celtic do not need Rangers to be commercially viable, Celtic do not need Rangers to attract worldwide appeal, Celtic do not need Rangers to be able to attract finance into our Club. Celtic only need Rangers as opponents on the football park. As has been shown before most recently as Monday night our Board know what the support want and are aware of the feelings of the support. So why then enter into a sponsorship of this kind when there is a growing anamosity towards being associated commercially with Rangers. This is the time to strike out on our own, gain our own deals on the back of our (good) reputation and not be tainted with any association with a team who financially are in the gutter, and whose fans drag their teams name down with their European trangressions. Celtic should be looking at breaking the association of the 'Old Firm' tag. The first step in doing so is to stop sharing a name on the front of the hoops.

No to the RED T.

READERS WARNING - skip on by , not football or team related but some insight into the new owners of the TENNENTS brand.

In the interests of research I decided to have a look at C&C Group PLC, in particular, is there any linkage between their strategies and sponsorship of Celtic and the other mob.

So here goes - C&C Strategic Vision :

C&C Group plc is a leading manufacturer, marketer and distributor of cider. C&C also recently acquired the Tennent's beer brand which is primarily sold in Scotland and Northern Ireland. The company also distributes a number of beer brands in the Scottish, Irish and Northern Irish markets and niche spirits and liqueur brands across a number of international markets.

Our strategy is to develop in the LAD and Spirits & Liqueurs markets internationally through:

- our skills in consumer insight, marketing and brand management
- creating international markets for Magners cider
- leading brand positions in growth categories of cider and Irish whiskey
- the effective use of our extensive direct sales infrastructure in Ireland

We have achieved significant operational and financial success with this strategy. We are building our major International brands, in particular Magners Irish Cider and Tullamore Dew Irish Whiskey, through a strategy of focusing investment on specific brand and market combinations with identified growth potential. We drive organic growth in Ireland through investment in key brands such as Bulmers.

Our new product development activity aims to accelerate the introduction of new brands, to refresh and broaden our current brand portfolio and generally to capitalise on consumers' willingness to try new products.

We pursue international acquisitions selectively, primarily of niche spirits and liqueur brands with growth potential and acquisitions in the long alcohol sector. In Ireland, we also seek to acquire strong brands and agency rights selectively to leverage existing core skills and develop new market opportunities.

SO WHAT ARE THEIR CORE BRANDED PRODUCTS -

Divisions
Cider - Bulmers and Magners (both classed as IRISH ciders)

International Spirits and Liqueurs -
Carolans Irish Cream
No.2 Irish cream liqueur in the world. 8 million bottles are sold each year in over 90 countries. No.2 Irish cream liqueur brand in the USA and Canada. The overall cream liqueur category continues to grow on an annual basis. Carolans also performs well in both established EU countries and emerging markets such as Russia, Poland and the Czech Republic.

made in County Tipperary - the heart of Ireland’s dairyland - using only the finest local ingredients.
Carolans has won numerous medals and awards at international drinks competitions - the latest being a gold medal at the San Francisco World Spirits Competition.

Tullamore Dew Irish Whiskey
Premium Irish whiskey. No.2 Irish whiskey brand in the world. the fastest growing Irish whiskey brand globally in the fastest growing spirits category.

With growth rates of +20% per annum Tullamore Dew continues to far outstrip the category growth rate. It is now the No.1 Irish whiskey brand in Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Czech Republic, Bulgaria and Latvia. In the last three of those, it is the No.1 overall whisk(/e)y, significantly outselling Scotch.

The origins of an be traced back to 1829 when the Distillery was founded in Tullamore, County Offaly, situated in the heart of Ireland. The original site now hosts a Heritage Centre where the full history is on display.

Frangelico
is a premium liqueur with an irresistible flavour of hazelnuts, infused with berries (cocoa and vanilla). Frangelico’s unique ‘monk-shaped’ bottle and rope have been important factors in tempting people around the world to try the brand. The brand sells primarily in the United States, Spain and Australia, and is manufactured in Canale, Italy.

Irish Mist -
a classic liqueur with a great taste and steeped in history.
Based on a traditional recipe for heather wine, Irish Mist’s delicious blend of honey, herbs and spices was first experienced by the chieftains and nobles of Ireland’s ancient clans.

The secret recipe all but disappeared with the last great exodus of the Irish Earls in 1691, only to be rediscovered on an ancient manuscript brought by a traveller from Europe to Ireland.

BEERS
Tennents, drank primaraly in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

So playing devils advocate for a moment, given all the product lines this company runs, stressing their international reach, their US growth , their Irishness, and the Monk shaped bottles ........

why would you accept the BIG RED T, surely there was other options there ? some opportunity to differentate the sponsorship for both clubs while enjoying the leverage of joint sponsor, but with different brands on the shirts ?

check out the website for the brands :

http://www.candcgroupplc.ie/our_brands.asp

DD

been hearing that about Mayo for as long as I can remember :-)

Mort

This report from Ronnie Cully of the Evening Times today worries me a lot. With regards to centre back cover, it seems BTM didn't get everything he was wanting during the Transfer Window. Sounds to me by not getting Ivan Ramis in was a big blow to him, and by gambling on Jos Hooiveld's fitness ( now crocked) and loaning out Stephen McManus, it look's like we need to go with a CB combination of Josh Thompson, Glenn Loovens or Darren O'Dea for the next few weeks !! I sure hope his midfield and forwards start doing the business soon !!

Extract from Evening Times
Unfortunately, not all of his men will be able to meet this challenge in the next few weeks with Andreas Hinkel and Jos Hooiveld the latest to succumb to injury.

The Dutch centre-back pulled a hamstring at Rugby Park, having condensed his pre-season into a couple of weeks’ intensive work before answering the call to step up to the plate ahead of schedule.

It’s a gamble which has backfired, and Mowbray admitted: “I think it’s a very, very pertinent point. Jos is not ready.

“But the situation where we were is that he needed to play, and needed to get up and going.”

The boss went on: “On nights like Tuesday, when we were having to go that extra little bit as we were chasing the game, he found himself picking up an injury.

“That’s the balance you’ve always got to try and find.”

Ironically, Hooiveld might not even have had to be risked had the agent of Real Mallorca defender Ivan Ramis not scuppered the deal to buy him for £2.5m late on Monday.

That was a big blow to Mowbray, who had earlier seen Sean St Ledger and Matthew Kilgallon slip from his grasp.

“I’m just trying to add quality all the way throughout the team, and increase the competition for places,” he reflected.

“Ramis is one who sort of got away. He’d have brought that competition at the back. And, if you’re going to pick up injuries, you need high quality players to replace high quality players.

“That said, Josh Thompson has shown over the last few weeks he’s more than capable of playing in our team.

“But I’d like to give a boy of his age the chance to develop rather than have to throw him in.”

Quiz

"But everything will not be all right at the end of the season. It will only get worse"

1) Who said this ?

2) When did he say it ?

3) Who was he talking about ?

4) Does the fact that he is working without a contract give him license to discuss this in public ?

clock starts now

Just read Evening Times article on Tony Mowbray.

He's juggling his options to decide on a captain.

Loovens-no,Brown-no.

Hand the arm-band to Robbie Keane.

Enthusiastic and a self-motivator who has the ability to positively motivate those around him.

And he's done it before.

It doesn't matter if he's a loan deal.He has more celtic in his heart than almost all of the rest of the team.

No brainer.

monthetic on February 4, 2010 2:31 PM
assetmanager

5 years old would be whan many people decide who 'their team' is for whatever reason. I do expect an adult to use common sense and see that football is a sport and it is laughable to bring Irish history into a debate about the EPL

It isn't a debate about the EPL per se but rather why Irish people follow English teams.

However, take your point - Irish history and a football team? - What could possibly be the connection?

And you ask if I'm for real!

Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS
1 Rangers 23 9 3 0 36 8 7 3 1 18 6 40 54
2 Celtic 23 6 4 1 22 9 7 1 4 22 15 20 44

If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the seriousness of the situation.

can i change my name from james fullerton to jimbob james fullerton is my real name i would like for security reasons to change thanks

According to the Herald the guy who took the pictures of the Tennants 'lager lovelies' has just died.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/man-behind-can-campaign-dies-1.1003647

Perhaps the thought of the T on a Rangers shirt was just too much for him.

mac1888 let me fix that for you

Team      P  W D L  F A W D L  F  A GD PTS 

1 Rangers 23 9 3 0 36 8 7 3 1 18  6 40 54 

2 Celtic  23 6 4 1 22 9 7 1 4 22 15 20 44

still makes for horrible reading :(

Cheers cody lol

Mort on February 4, 2010 3:31 PM

Yes, yes I'm the same! :-)

I was actually at the final against Kerry in 2004 and they inevitably bottled it really.

But could be a good year for both this year, Mayo is a fantastic county and a Mayo v Donegal SFC final would be the stuff of dreams!

DD

saint stivs fp

Perhaps C&C view us differently than we like to think others view us. They perhaps see our core support being from Scotland and NI and may consider that we have little appeal outside these regions.

I may also be wrong but I think Tennents is still a fully functioning company in its own right, but just owned by C&C but free to do their own marketing and advertising in whatever way they see fit and so it is Tennents as the sponsors rather than C&C.

Still don't want to see a big red T on the hoops.

Mort

Hope is not a Strategy

james fullerton

Above the comment box there is a line that says:

"Thanks for signing in, Mort. Now you can comment. (sign out) "

Click on your name and you can change your display name on the next page.

Just for info, there is another poster here with the name jimbob so you might want to change it to something else to avoid confusion.

Hail Hail

Mort

Celtic player 'caught speeding'

Feb 3 2010

A footballer was clocked driving at 54mph in a 30mph area, a court heard.

Pc Alexander Walter Smith said he saw the speed on the screen of the Unipar SL700 equipment, which was being held by a colleague.

Aiden McGeady, who is a winger for Celtic, denies the speeding charge which allegedly took place on Carmunnock Road in Glasgow on February 15 last year.

Gordon_J,

I don't think his replacement is gonnae work out.

The new T girl?

lurgan

in scotland teachers were paid as overtime any extra carricular activities they took

the reason she introduced lms was her way of reducing the budgets for education while distancing the tory govt of direct cuts

more teachers,more comp,lower class sizes ,better equipment,new schools, new hospitals etc only happened,certainly in west of scotland,only happened after a change of govt

but this is not a political forum so my friend we will agree to disagree and move on to more important things like why did we let mcmanus leave without having secured cover and that, in my opinion, is for all the good things done during this window,why the argument on net spend is relevant

on my calculations we are net spenders,at best, of £1m and i believe we should have exceeded this to get another centre back or kept mcmanus

Lenny Murdoch evil Wiki Web Master, off sick following the transfer window, has allegedly just called an emergency meeting with Tony Mowbray at the Asda carpark in Robroyston.

HH

Fred C. Dobbs,

Maybe someone should have shown that image to Tennents. Might have made them think twice about what their brand is going to be associated with.

Only got time to say this. In defence of my big pal DBBIA, when I came on site on Tuesday morning, I thought surely now people will want to talk to me about Celtic, us having just signed their favourite son in an 11th hour deal ? I could hardly sleep, such was my excitement.

I should also say that most of the Irish people that have to do any work here, have to come through me so I see plenty of them very single day and do you know what ?

Not one single Irish man mention the Robbie Keane signing. I had thought surely they must have heard about this and will at least mention it to the obvious wee Tim in the Permit office and as I say, not one single person commented.

That is why I said to DBBIA on the phone that night, that the widely believed "perception" that most Irish folk have at least an interest in Celtic is well wide of the mark in my experience !

And before anyone says it, I get on very well with these people and we blether every day about all kinds of things, just not Celtic Football club.......FACT !

pablophanque

Very concerned about this Poll business.
Any Stato worth his amoral knows that the only poll with validity and figures of interest are ones with a dancing girl....

T for two
Two for T
Me for you
And you for me...... CSC

shimmies

Scottish teachers have never been paid overtime for extra curricular activities
They started a work to rule over a pay claim and that was the end of Saturday morning schools football

Now when the happy day dawns that MT is toast
Oh how the Bells of Hell will be tingalinging !

National holiday for this Bear !

Gas man knocks on a house door. Little boy answers wearing lipstick, knee high boots, stockings, suspenders, and smoking a joint. Gas man says: "Is your mum in son" Little boy replies: "Does it look @@@@@@@ like it"?

HH

Lurgan53, Shimmies33, philvisreturns - first up the teachers and work to rule. My mum was a teacher when dear old Maggie was in power, and I'd need to check with her for the exact details but when Keith Joseph was Sec of Education there was a change to working working conditions that caused the teachers to adopt a 'work to contract' as an industrial action. I'm pretty certain it wasn't about pay.

Pretty much no extra curricular activites when I was at school. There are plenty that put this as one of the roots of the demise of Scottish football because schools football never really recovered.

Other reasons to ensure her party never get in how about 15% interest rates. We lived in a pretty decent 3 bed detached in Dunblane at the time must have been about 1984. I distinctly recall the mortgage being something like £800. That's a lot more than I pay now for my house. People weren't hit as hard generally because most people had a lot less personal debt, and had personal finances been organised the same as they are now who knows if it would have got that high but it's scary nonetheless.

Labour might be bad, but they're a pleasant country picnic compared to the Tories.

Lurgan 53:
and shimmies;
Just for the record, the reason school football collapsed (and has never recovered to anything like the same extent) under Thatcher,was because of a boycott of all voluntary unpaid duties called for by the teaching unions in Scotland. Thatchers strangulation of the public sector, eroding schools, equipment and salaries.
By the time the "work to rule" was over, many teachers had found other things to take up their time.

Mort,

I agree partly with what you say and how they as a company might view the two supports as just Scotland and Northern Ireland based, I can see that angle.

But also, I could see a value proposition for them, in growth terms to put Magners on the Hoops ( EU appeal, especially in the growing Eastern Europe markets) or Irish Dew.

if we must have this agreement then lets at least have seperate branding.

NO TO THE RED T

Two questions:
1. Is (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais better than White Riot?
2. Is (White Man) in Hammersmith Palais punk?

If you take part in this sham poll then you're a hun.
GallupCSC

Can all the St Trinian affeciandos please stop. It´s called Shinty anyway and you guys are only holding our cup. If Shane Dooley had heard the final whistle instead of pretending he didn´t then we´d still be world champs !! ;-)

FlashHarryHoodCSC

saint stivs fp

That's all well and good if C&C are the actual sponsors or if Tennents are indepently run and took the deal on themselves.

Even if not, C&C probably would be correct in assuming that the majority of people won't know (or care) that they own the 2 sponsors and could find both products boycotted by "the other side".

For instance if C&C had said, tennents will sponsor Rangers and Magners will sponsor Celtic, it's quite conceivable that Rangers fans would stop drinking Magners and Celtic fans would stop drinking Tennents.

Celtic should never have agreed to this and will suffer the fall out when the new jerseys come out.

I hope no Celtic fan purchases any merchandise with Tennents on it or indeed any official merchandise full stop. I can understand that children will still want the new kits but buy them sponsor free ones and buy from other sport shops.

It pains me to say that, as merchandising is one of our main income streams after gate receipts but I think we need to take a stand and if the board see merchandise sales drop substantially then maybe they will take more of an interest in our views.

Mort

Oh, and I should have said, you can't even get in to the local pub when the top 4 are playing each other, nevermind get to the bar !!!

Last derby game, 4 of us and one of them was the barman It also tunred out the other two were also Scots working down here ! Says it all to me.

BTW, not having a go at anyone, just telling it as I've experienced it.

EPL first and Celtic a distant second. Found it all to be quite sad TBH 'cos they're great people and I expected them to share the same love and bond as mentioned earlier by Mort.

pablophanque

if it had been someone else speeding headline might have read//
WALTER GOES DEAD QUICK?

Police today denied that any officer had stopped the blessed walter in his car,Chief Inspector William Larkhall said the very thought of any of his officers attempting to stop Mr Smith appalled him.A report has not been sent to the procurator fiscal, walter speeding!..how very dare you!

canamalar - "you must have a great big library full of "not a lot of evidence to support" as basically every major discussion facing the world and its population you have raised this not a lot of evidence counter argument"

Can I help it if we live in an increasingly irrational age? A lot of received wisdom today is based on an echo chamber effect rather than facts and logic.

"I'm begining to suspect you are just a contrary indian."

I'm Scottish. (thumbsup)

Mort,

I am in agreement with you, I dont want any joint deal.
I wont be buying anything with it on it.

Having accepted it though, I am just trying to get my head around why !

Tennets away back to the Scottish CUp will yease, and gies peace.

Poll Q-
Has Katie Price-Jordan found true love at last?

Poll A-

Y/N/Here's 20p?

I'm a definite Yes!, and I hope the poor wee lassie will just be left alone to get on with her life.

Tennents truely is lilian Gish,I was glad when Carling got introduced to Scotland so i had something decent to drink when I came back up the road.

SponsorlessShirtcsc

Paul67

I like your well-argued posts normally.

However, on this occasion, I really must take issue. I truly feel you are being over-forgiving to the club.

Do you really believe that £1.5m/year is a fee that no other company(ies) would be willing to pay to sponsor Celtic, particularly looking beyond these shores? I can think of an Irish billionaire with certain business interests that might benefit from a deal. I can also think of companies with interests in the far east or America who would surely be interested.

Do you not accept that since the inception of the Carling deal, the tide has moved substantially against the 'Old Firm' tag (particularly in the last couple of seasons). A customer focus group was not required by the club to know that. If is was, they are more out of touch than I ever thought possible.

Are there not other possibilities regarding merchandising/sponsorship that would make up the measly £1.5million? Stadium rights? Even with a smaller package, would the difference not be made up in increased merchandising sales if different from Rangers FC?

What about a sponsor-less hoops? Fans could donate to a charity (even Celtic's own trust),say £20 or £30 a season. This could result in all or a portion of the monies (substantially more that £1.5million I venture to guess) going to charity.

£1.5million/year is not a major revenue source. Indeed, the potential impact on merchandise sales represents a greater amount, I would have thought.

I expected you might have got torn into the club for getting into bed with a morally bankrupt club about whose fans we have complained incessantly.

Why the continued association with alcohol? I like a drink, but children should not be exposed to such blatant advertising in a sporting context. Indeed, such advertising on kid's kits is outlawed. The west of Scotland is blighted by alcohol and its malign effects. Such promotion runs contrary to the ethos of our club.

Are you satisfied with the quality of product of our new sponsor and the message that sends?

The joint approach only perpetuates the Old Firm tag as well the myth that both clubs are as bad as each other. We do not need to give the media encouragement in this regard.

The guy(s) with responsibility did not face Hobson's Choice. They had some simple business and ethical decisions to make.

Does the brand image of the new sponsor improve the image of the club?
Will the branding lead to an increase in merchandise sales?
Is there any compelling reason to tie ourselves with a smaller club?
Are there, worldwide, any other suitable companies?
Should we be sponsored by an alcohol company?
Should consideration be given to a sponsor-less home kit or a charitable sponsorship arrangement?
Does a joint sponsorship deal result in a perception that we are umbilically tied to Rangers FC?
Does such a joint deal increase or decrease the likelihood of escaping the SPL?

The running of the club should be more about the financial bottom line.

My bottom line is that the deal is financially unsound and morally inexcusable.

WE ARE NOT THE OLD FIRM, WE ARE CELTIC

Bradford Bhoy,

what is it with Scotland and crap beer ?

Becks is the most predominant German beer I have found in Scotland and it is nothing but weak bubble bath.

Hail Hail

saint stivs fp on February 4, 2010 3:58 PM

The point is not 'NO TO THE RED T', the point is no to joint sponsorship. Who cares if we get Magners its still joint sponsorship. Only way to make your point and be heard is buy a sponsorless shirt. Not buying the shirt at all hurts the team and we dont want NIKE getting peeved with us.

Tennents see thousands of brandless tops they will brick it!

BUY SPONSORLESS JERSEYS

Awe Naw

Ask Bourne to send you a truckload of Czech

Awe Naw,

yellow card , Becks is a wonderful beer.

On my Germany trip, I love Becks, and Dortmunder.

and when in Belgium, big Duval please.

funnily enough, ive never met anyone on my travels who enquires about Tennents.

As I have said before the next six fixtures IMO will decide the fate of BTM.We are at home twice and of course away four times The huns have three games each home and away.This is how it pans out.
---Celtic------------Rangers

Dumfermline-A-------St Mirren-A
Hearts--H-----------Motherwell-A
Aberdeen--A---------Hibs--H
Dun-Unt-H-----------St-Johnstone-A
Huns-A--------------Us-H
Falkirk-A-----------St Mirren-H

Celticfoo,

i agree, i agree, i agree, its NO TO JOINT SPONSORSHIP.
in all its guises.

Awe_Naw

We have Becks Vier over in NI now and it's certainly much nicer than Tennents, Carling, Carlsberg or Harp (NI's own brand and it tastes worse than a Tesco Value brand).

Lidl have some German beers in stock but haven't tried any yet. We have an annual Oktoberfest in Belfast each year with a huge selection of German beer but I think I'm too used to the "weak bubble bath" variety we get her as that stuff would blow the head of ye.

Mort

bradford bhoy at 4.13
do you no like a cold pint of stella ,strong lager but a cracking pint also budweiseer on tap ye canna beat it
wased down with a few vodies

Was there not a big thing about Tennants lager in Japan 90's time? Maybe we are trying to get back
Into that market after Naka left :-)

Awe Naw

I tend to drink Bud in pints if can get it,I remember i used to love going home n getting into the pub n asking for a "Tinnints" cos everybody else was drinking it ,when I tasted it Id give the boys pelters for not knowing any better;-)

I've seen draught Tennents on sale in New York City.

It looked vaguely exotic.

By Mort on February 4, 2010 4:07 PM

Cant agree with not buying the strips and dont think the vast majority would go with it anyway (and as i said lets not get nike annoyed with us, we may god forbid have to go back to umbro).

Kids tops take care of themselves (alcohol banned on kids tops), we as adults must buy sponsorless shirts, its the only way to get the point across.

2 things will then happen:

A: after around 3-4,000 sales of sponsorless shirts board remove them from the stores. Then we all know board couldnt care less about our opinion

B: Tennents see 70-80% of celtic jerseys going around without their name/logo on it and ask Celtic to terminate the deal

BUY SPONSORLESS JERSEYS

henkestongue

I ALWAYS try n get Bud on draught up the road,I used to drink stella when I was young enough to not have a conscience over the things I got up to when I was drunk!

It's got to be a bottle of Budvar for me, I've taken a liking to Leffe recently, only in smalll doses, very bitter, but nice none the less.

There is a bar in the Oltrarno in Florence, close to the Ponte Cecchio, which sells Tennents lager & even Tennents super. No idea why- it is gash!

ponte vecchio...

glendalystonsils on February 4, 2010 3:57 PM

Does that not back up my arguement? Teachers never got paid for taking football after school -or at weekends.

Why have many who supported Tony Mowbray previously changed their stance?

I contend it has very little to do with the result on Tuesday and much to do with the strange team selection in the first place and above all the strangest of strange late substitutions to bring on Scott Brown in the most unlikely of positions. I think that's when the scales fell off for most people. I'm sure that many like me pondered after the game "Does he know what he's doing?"

I said when he was appointed that I was not happy. I said I had a bad feeling about the appointment. I said that although I hoped different it would most probably end in tears.

Tony I'm trying hard to support you but by God you don't have make it difficult. I can change but can you?

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IT IS WHAT IS IN THE JERSEYS THAT MATTER JUST NOW. NOT WHAT IS ON THEM!!

Sorry for shouting.

I'm so piston bitter about this tennants joint sponsorship.

I mean, why encourage the huns to breed more ,is there not enough on this friggin planet ?

http://www.allposters.co.uk/gallery.asp?startat=/getposter.asp&APNum=2671099&CID=0ADF64DAD32A4F189CFA8613D208A127&PPID=1&Search=hun%20beer&f=t&FindID=0&P=2&PP=86&sortby=PD&c=c&page=2

didnt thatcher try to tie in the volintary work as part of the contracted work, thus try to force hours up, and when you think about it, with the hours and holidays they get I think she might have had a point, I mean whats so hard about teaching eh ?

Tora Tora Tora!!!!!!!

Served very cold

SushiCSC

This sponsorship, like the Carling one, is wrong. Ethically wrong.

We could do so much better, in so many ways.

Philvis - you are George Bush. In fact you are both of them. Banning Free Health Care!!!! Psuedo science about passive smoking. And you say you're not a neo-con. Perhaps you are somewhere to the right of them.

You're a funny guy.

Credit to Scott McDonald for his comments to the press re his move away from Celtic...that's the way an ex Celtic man should behave. Good luck son!

Delbhoy: English flags outside Dublin pubs?! I have never seen this! As for the rest, a lot of people in Dublin have no interest in the dross that the spl dishes up, or in gaa, but this does not mean they want to be English as you put it! Someone can be Irish without feeling the need to cling to the same set of cultural paraphinala as you do. In fact, I would say someone from say south Dublin, with no gaa heritage and no Celtic background would be somewhat false in adopting these just to prove his native irishness! As for the queen of england, if she does so she will visit as a foreign head of state as would Barak Obama or Nicolas Sarkozy, and we will all be free to express or displeasure or otherwise at the event.

TLOPG@2.00pm
Sorry been of-line. Thanks for coming back to me. We're staying in the Hyde park area.

pablophanque on February 4, 2010 3:55 PM

"Favourite son?"

Robbie Keane is a Dub. No self respecting Corkman pays any attention to a Jackeen. Its a bit like if Stephen Gerrard was transferred to Celtic. D'ye think Man Utd fans would be taking any notice?

As I said before - soccer wouldn'y be the biggest sport in Cork. However I've since been corrected and a poster has informed me - and the rest of the blog - that there are five Celtic supporters clubs in Cork. I'd say thats pretty impressive.

Anyway - its difficult to ascertain the degree of support for any team. Some go by the number of Hoop jerseys you see. I would say that - match days apart - I see more hoops jerseys in Lurgan than I would in Glasgow.

Keep her lit young man.

53

TBB,Mort,saint stivs

Yello card appeal: Lodged.

Czech bier is delicious and FYI it is the original pils fropm the town Pilz would you believe :-)

Belgian beer excellent beer especially the trapist and abbey beers - blame catholic schools i,e (triple trapist, Duvalle) 12% but not exactly refreshing after a hard game of football having scored the winner ;-)

If I´m back home I´ll drink 3 Irish beers (no more) headache the next day and then move onto becks unfortunately - becks vier is the same crap as becks 1 with less bubbles.

If you are buying beer from Aldi I can recommend the green plastic bottled Belgian pils beer whose name escapes me... dont let the plastic bottle put you off

I would also drink Warsteiner that you can get at Aldi´s or DAB- Dortmunder A??? Bier and nearly any Weissbier, kristal weitzen .. nearly all from Bavaria Erdinger, Paulaner, Franziskaner etc.

But it´s pretty sad to take your Aldi bought beer to the best night club in Glasgow on a Saturday night ... I tend not to get in and get funny looks from the bouncers.

Hail Hail

Quick word about the sponsorship. I;m not going to get into the joint deal, there's enough been said about it. I'm going to talk about the value of it. this article shows that £1.5M/year is actually looking like a decent amount.

I've said over the last couple of days that given the size of it, we (the fans) may have been guilty of over-estimating the size and sellability of our global brand. I think I might have changed my mind.

The article points to Bolton and Wigan only being able to secure sponsorship of around £750k/season. Now I'm not going to argue for a single second that they have hte brand we do, but they do have far greater global exposure than us. On that basis I'd expect the deal to be a lot higher. Chelsea's Samsung deal is worth £10M/season but given their exposure in the EPL and the Champions League I'd have expected it to be higher.

As I'm reading through more articles I'm starting to the think the amount we're receiving isn't bad. Whether that's now offset due to drops in merchandise remains to be seen.

That sponsorship deal. Time for a reality check.

It's fine having a debate and letting off some steam about an issue but some of the stuff I'm reading on the blog at the moment is totally over the top.

As someone who works in the area of marketing and sponsorship I'd like to flag up the state of the market at the moment and the difficulty companies are having trying to secure a major sponsor in any marketplace, never mind a shrinking one like the SPL.

The list of suggested sponsors drawn up by some of the armchair marketing gurus on this site is hilarious. Dream on guys! Budgets are tight and the multi nationals are cutting back on secondary sponsorship as they focus on investing in their key partners. Unfortunately, we're not seen in that bracket.

The reality is that Celtic have to produce a sustainable business model and the reported £1.5m p.a. deal is as good as we'll find in the present climate. If it's a matter of accepting a joint deal, like it or lump it, it's all that is on the table and we need the funds. Full stop.

And as for going without a sponsor and 50,000 fans paying an extra £30 on their season ticket, fine thought but no chance. The club needs this cash but could it really ask the fans to reach into their pocket again? I doubt it.

Celtic are in an almost impossible position. The market being as it is and with Scottish Football's stock at its lowest ebb for ten years, the club is in the situation of being damned if they do and damned if they don't. If it's not one fan threatening to cancel his season ticket because we've agreed to a joint venture, it's another cancelling because we're not investing money in the squad. They can't win.

Unfortunately we are now beginning develop a section of the support who are malcontents and sadly, whether they realise it or not, they are beginning to undermine the very fabric of the club. They seem to be unhappy or find fault with every other business decision taken. I really don't think they realise the danger of their actions.

Those of you that have heard old Walter's radio interview on the state of the nation over by, take careful note, Scottish football and not just Govan's finest is on the brink. This is not the time to be stirring up unrest or withdrawing support for the club. It might just set off a chain reaction....

We need to unite as a support, get behind the club and believe that it is acting in our best interests.

Hail. Hail.
Fender

canamalar
yer a bad lad and a poor spellar of sorts ?
if teaching is so easy - I take it you've tried it ?
detention for you me lhad !

Lurgan 53:

This might sound corny but I did it because I loved the school football. It never once entered my head to want anything for it and I never met another teacher who did either. Nothing gave me greater pleasure either than to see one of the boys I had coached going on to wear the hoops.

http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/2010/02/double-tennents.php#comment-514113

pablophanque

Over a 4/5 year period of regular work visits to Dublin and Cork I found the same regrettably. My passion for Celtic was generally met with more looks and words of sympathy rather than interest.

My family is from Derry. We have two teams.

1. Celtic
2. Derry City FC

We could all give a rats ar*e about the EPL.

So many posters discussing their favourite alcoholic drinks.

So many posters opposed to promoting a company that makes alcoholic drinks.

Isn'tThatIronic CFC

Did the Dubliners not regard their city as the second city of the empire many moons ago .Maybe thats why they dont mind flying the English flag outside pubs.

Imagine doing the same in the real second city ,say like up the Gallowgate .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ymFx69SElg&feature=related

Gordon_J

That's paradoxical, not ironic.

gordon_j

Never seen a subject causing so much unlurking.

HH

Pablo,

I'm in agreement. I'm Irish, just returned to Donegal after many years abroad and had to go through 5 pubs in town before I could find one to turn on the telly for me to see the match on tuesday night. Had the Hull v Chelsea game been on live I wouldn't have stood a chance!

Gordon_J

Nobody does irony like us Celtic fans. :-)

and besides, I couldn't give two hoots about what our sponsor does, it's the fact that it's a joint deal with Rangers that annoys me more than anything.

I remember the Winchester was it where we had the quiz last year for Kano only sold Tennents. Did you know something we didn't when booking it? :-)

Mort

I wanted to post this in response to the last article by Paul.

Calling all Celtic supporters.

When Gordon Strachan was appointed to replace MON in 2005, I was 100% behind him. Younger, faster, fitter was the promise as Strachan inherited an aging squad who had broken our hearts on Black Sunday. He deserved every ounce of our support and I believe he got it. The football was not exactly inspiring but we won our title back. I began to have concerns well into Team 2. I couldn’t see any continuity or development of a style of play. Younger, faster, fitter,… Steven Pressley. I was genuinely concerned and began to wonder if the Emperor had no clothes on. The appointment of Walter, for that is how he shalt be known, saw the Huns catch up and eventually overtake us from a position of near bankruptcy. Strachan had to go. His signings, on the whole, were poor and we were left with a squad which again needed dismantled and rebuilt.

Tony Mowbray left Hibs to join WBA on 18th October 2006. “Mowbray inherited an aging squad, still tottering around the Championship wondering how they’d been relegated to begin with; a squad full of reputations and names who had tasted the big-time and craved to be back in the limelight – hardly the best combination for a promotion scrap in what many consider the most competitive league in the world, The Championship.”
http://soccerlens.com/tony-mowbray-destined-for-greatness/5782/#ixzz0eZK6lQuk

In season 2006-07 TM led WBA to 4th place. They outscored Champions Sunderland by 5 goals. They lost 1-0 in Play off final.

In season 07-08 He led WBA to the semi finals of the FA Cup. They were Champions of the Coca-cola Championship and again top scorers above Stoke and Hull City.

In the Premier League, WBA were relegated on the same points as Middlesbrough, 2 points less than Newcastle and 3 less than Hull, who stayed up.

Tony left WBA to take up the task of rebuilding Celtic into a side that can compete in Europe and Scotland. He needed to clear out some poor squad fillers to make way for his team. Meanwhile the Huns have the continuity of a lot of fairly decent players with experience of winning the title last year.

Tony Mowbray is only 8 months into the job. He deserves the same level of support afforded to MoN and WGS. He deserves our support as Celtic supporters. Anything less renders us no better than those whose hatred of us is their only raison d’etre.

Now is the time for us to be true Celtic supporters. Now is the time to show Hooiveld, Ratmussen, Fortune, NGuemo, Braffheid, Kamara,, Rogne and Keane they were right to choose us. Now is the time to show Tony Mowbray he was right to give up his comfortable life in the Midlands to lead us back to our rightful place, in spite of the slander and ill will pouring in his direction from those who despise us. Now is the time to stand up for Celtic.

Bhoy from the County Hell on February 4, 2010 4:54 PM

Where about in DOnegal was that? I've experienced similar in Dublin and Galway but never had much trouble in Donegal.

Mind you there are some pubs in Scotland that you'd find it hard to see the SPL in over the EPL.

DD

fender

Well said.

A more relevant poll question for this site might be.....

DO YOU THINK CELTIC WILL KNOCK DUNFERMLINE OUT OF THE CUP THIS WEEKEND?

Then on Monday morning we would all know whether or not CQN polls were any good at predicting things.

I still haven't recovered from Tuesday night, that was a sore one.

fender @4:47,

''Unfortunately we are now beginning develop a section of the support who are malcontents and sadly, whether they realise it or not, they are beginning to undermine the very fabric of the club. They seem to be unhappy or find fault with every other business decision taken. I really don't think they realise the danger of their actions''

Well said. I just thought that sentence was worth highlighting again.

MrUnderstanding@2.32 :- I'm not sure which story about Rangers wearing red topped socks you are meaning. If it's the story that we wear red tops on our socks to be up to our knees in fenian blood then it's an urban myth.
Rangers were wearing red tops on the socks for a good few years before either the Billy Boys gang was formed or the Billy Boys song was sung.

DD,

I'm sorry to say it was in Donegal Town, a town teaming with Tims when I left 10 years ago.

derbyshirebhoy on February 4, 2010 4:35 PM

spot on, nail on the head

Fender,

are you Peter Lawwell ? ;-)

This deal will make us lose more than 1,5m in lost merchandise sales and lost ST sales.

It will be the first time this has happened granted and it´s all due to being associated with them.

They could have got a sponsor that offered them less so that needs taken into the equation too

We can revisit this in one two years time trawl through the accounts and contrast and compare.

No more Old Firm it doesn´t do us any favours.

Most tic fans I know tell me they would love to see them go to the wall. That alone is an indication of the feeling.

HAil Hail

Hello Ed,

I was going to post earlier, "MrUnderstanding you will soon be put to rights by Ed on this"

and then coundown for how long it would take.

cheers, make mines a lager tops.

Mort - "Nobody does irony like us Celtic fans. :-)"

Alanis Morrissette? (thumbsup)

roberttressell - "Philvis - you are George Bush. In fact you are both of them. Banning Free Health Care!!!! Psuedo science about passive smoking. And you say you're not a neo-con. Perhaps you are somewhere to the right of them.

There's your problem. There is no such thing as "free" health care.

"You're a funny guy. "

I have a direct line to your funny bone. (thumbsup)

Donegal town has been like that for years, in 1997 it was impossible to find a pub showing dunfermline game.

glendalystonsils on February 4, 2010 4:48 PM

I know what you mean for I did the same. None ever went on to play for the Hoops though. The nearest I can get to that is at least my boys did get to Kick Neil Lennon a few times.

I did have a few (3) who did get to play in England. One of them - I was just talking to him recently - claims that he slept with Chris Sutton. A very funny story.

Ernie Lynch,

I went with ironic as it is not necessarily the same posters. If it had been that would be paradoxical, if not hypocritical.

Mort,

As a non drinker I didn't even look to see what the Winchester sells! But I would go back there ...

Alanis Morrisette's mum invented the 'Taser' stun gun.

emusanorphan

totally agree

Preston defender Sean St Ledger has blasted his own chairman for keeping him in the dark over a glamour move to Celtic.

From t'imternet somwhere.

MalcontentscopyrightJack McGinnCSC

By fender on February 4, 2010 4:47 PM
That sponsorship deal. Time for a reality check.
As someone who works in the area of marketing and sponsorship -

can I tap into your expertise please, are "armchair marketing guru's" the one who give us the dreadful DFS adverts ?

saint stivs on the couch.

Bhoy from the County Hell on February 4, 2010 5:00 PM

Ah I see, haven't really been there but passed through it a few times. My cousin is a principal of one of the national schools there.

Sad to hear that, never really have a problem up in Gweedore or around Dungloe Annagry areas either.

DD

S.O.ArthurLee :- While catching up with the blog I read a couple of threads back that you are now a hun, I'm glad that talking to you in the pub has brought you to the light ;-)

To all of those who requently accuse other posters of being Rangers men, stop and think for a minute, if the poster has a history of pro Celtic posts then it's unikely.

Out of the people I have met on here (all very strong Celtic fans) I think the best accusations (as in most ridiculous) have been against SOAL, WinningGemmell and Pablophanque.

To the three amigos above, see what happens when you talk to huns LMAO

Edward

In my head I said 'story' but forgot the '' when I typed it. I'm not aware of the ins and outs of it (like you do) other than I know it's, like you said, an urban myth that some of my Rangers supporting friends like to play up to.

Apologies for the mix-up.

Bhoy from the County Hell on February 4, 2010 4:58 PM

fender @4:47,

AH the usual pathetic emotional blackmail put out by shareholders who want to frighten the support.

Maybe they should try and behave in a civilised manner rather than whore themselves for every penny.

If they were Celtic fans, Tims they would know this.

They are about to find out when they look at the books next year as that is how they operate as the DESPICABLE BUT ENTIRELY PREDICTABLE timing of the announcement emphasises.

The fans are not lemmings any more. Check out the swathes of Yellow and green colours at Man U games.... but no we will wait until we check the books next year like the good little bean counters that they are

THEY HAVE BEEN FOUND WANTING. THEY NEED TO UP THEIR GAME OR MOVE OVER.

HAil HAil

Fender and emusanorphan, good posts...hope everyone reads them.

Scotlands shame,

there were two Celtic bars in town when I left. The Paradise bar and McCaffertys on the corner which is still there. They weren't showing the game because they didn't have ESPN. Can't really fault them considering the current economic climate but would imagine if there was enough demand for Celtic games they would have it.

Ctrl Alt Delete.

StStivsFP @ 5.01 :- As I was told at the poker last night (though still made a profit) sometimes I'm a wee bit too predictable :-)
One cyber pint on it's way.

I believe as part of the Tennents deal we wont have a red T on our tops and they wont have 'irish cider'.

seriously, it was a deal breaker in the contract that the word irish could not appear on their merchandise at any time.

EdwardUrsus@4.59, you rotten mythbuster! :-)

saint stivs fp

sofa so good!