There’s always a bit of trepidation before Celtic play a meaningless game, like they will do in Turkey tomorrow, the propensity to pick up injuries feels higher, although this is possibly not borne out by statistics.
Before Sunday the team look like they needed a break but no injuries, please.
It’s been a long time since I’ve heard allegations that some or other council are controlled by, and for the benefit of, an ethnic or religious minority. This is an old-time prejudice, up there along with allegations of criminality or the personal hygiene habits of the minority. But like Corporation buses, they come in groups.
Anyone can report Celtic for whatever they like, and believe me, many do. Which is a great pity, as there are real targets worthy of attention elsewhere….. For years, while others were buying football bling, Celtic were acquiring land, all appropriately, as is their borrowing. More importantly, they have been able to establish all of this without question. Confirmed.
Just because one club was an omni-shambles doesn’t mean any others are. Enjoy the laugh.
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One-nil
imatim and so is neil lennon and may god bless wee oscar
11:53 on 8 January, 2014
I see the Media House presence on the site has increased significantly. Did someone mention
money and laundering in the same sentence?
Like it!
trois!
NatKnow – Supporting Wee Oscar
12:00 on 8 January, 2014
greenmaestro
11:43 on 8 January, 2014
Zombie Grief Cycle:
1.Stupidity
2.Anger
3.Deady-ness
4.Anger
5.Liquidation
6. GOTO 1
PAUL67
Don’t mention Corporation besets to huns of my age group.
When we were kids,they were decked out in a rather fetching Green,White and Gold.
Besets?
Buses!
iPads!!
Morning CQN!!
TC45
8th….?????…..
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
12:00 on 8 January, 2014
Aye they were. But then Christine Graham decided things needed to be “evened up” and painted the underground a horrible orangey colour.
Bonne Année, Paul
Oh, and…
Celtic don’t play friendlies
;o)
Just been on the newsnow Celtic page and according to the rangers standard we have representatives in Brussels trying to prove the land aquirred was not state aid.
I wonder if Chris Graham ever wakes up in the morning and thinks to himself as he pulls on his wee red, white and blue socks ” Who really owns Sevco, I mean like who really owns the club I blindly follow whilst all the time racking muck on that other mob across the city?”
Th problem with the ole Sevconians is that they judge everyone else by their own impossibly low standards, they lowered the bar consistently that even a world class limbo dancer with the belly of a snake could not pass under it!!
There are none so blind etc etc..
Excellent article, Paul67 ….concise, and to the point….
East Dumbartonshire council was lib dem in 2005 when planning permission was granted for lennoxtown , so not labour and not within the borders of Glasgow City council .so as I asked Chris graham earlier lets see how this one pans out …….
Hail Hail and a happy new year to everyone.
This hasn’t been a good week for us in my opinion.
CQN server goes haywire
That Alex Thomson “piece”
Sammi continuing to divide our support
Joe continuing to divide the support
The MSM trying to unsettle our best player in VVD
Show the Jam Tarts some leniency – give me a break the embargo is there because they would continue to over spend
The huns on a campaign to question our business deals
And I’ve had sore guts for the last few days.
NAT KNOW
Is that what they are?
I simply avoid orange buses.
Blue taxis,though? Now that’s a different matter……
Omnishambles and Omnibuses in the same post Paul?
Omniscient blogging. Omniblogging indeed.
Any truth in the rumour that we have representatives in Brussels trying to buy Scotland and norn iron below going rate off of the Jesuit infested eu?
For our Tim golfers.
Have a read of “Miracle at Medinah” by Oliver Holt. Ryder cup heroics. Very good
Hail Hail
KINGLuBO
Paul67,
Great article, he’ll slap it in tae them stupit huns!
AR
Paul 67
On the land deal stuff the same folk put up an article (and no doubt contacted the EC) last week which elicited this response on TSFM at
http://www.tsfm.org.uk/2013/12/reflections-on-goalposts/comment-page-11/#comment-79501
but I copy paste below. (You have to admit though that Divers is a right Tim sounding name)
ecobhoy says: (2189)
January 2, 2014 at 2:43 pm
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I see that the Bears have been presented with a massive New Year squirrel by the claim that Celtic has been illegally granted massive’State Aid’ allegedly in contravention of Euro Legislation.
I would have thought that any Rangers supporter in this financially dangerous time might be more interested in what is tearing their own club apart and finding out who actually owns it rather than worry about non-existant State Aid to Celtic given that Rangers has had a helluva lot of ‘State Aid’ through failure to pay taxes at local and national level.
However I am always hopeful when any blogger claims to have conducted a forensic analysis and exposed wrongdoing so I was interested by the statement from footballtaxhavens.wordpress.com that: ”The Scottish Government in 2006, allowed the transfer of a £30+ Million 19.53 hectare property near Glasgow, at Lennoxtown, for the heavily discounted (1/60th of the valuation) price of £497,000 to be transferred to Celtic FC for their training facility via the signature of one person, the CEO of Greater Glasgow Health Board.”
Sounds a shocker but there isn’t a shred of evidence and that the total fabrication can be demolished through publicly available sources.
I have no intention of even addressing the tawdry allegations made against the CEO who has been pilloried apparently because he shares the same surname as former celtic players and officials – Personally I have a simple line with allegations of criminality – You report it to the police. If not talk’s cheap and dangerous if done through a sectarian motive. So let’s look at this piece of muck-raking.
Lennox Castle Hospital was finally closed in 2002, after a long process whereby mental health care was transferred to ‘The Community’ from decaying large-scale institutions – such as Lennox Castle – which had ended-up as a unit of Greater Glasgow Primary Care NHS Trust – itself a division of Greater Glasgow NHS Board.
Footballtaxhavens claim that instead of paying £493k for their almost 20 hectares training Ground and Football Academy in the grounds of the former Lennox Castle Hospital that they should have paid £32.5 million based on the averaged cost, according to annually published Government figures, of the value of housebuilding land in Scotland in 2006.
With apologies to my friends in Lennoxtown who know me well let me observe that the lovely village with even lovelier people is no Bearsden or Mingavie in terms of residential property prices/values. However more importantly the annual Government valuation figures per hectare of residential housebuilding land is predicated on the land in question having: ‘A planning permission typical for the location, is ripe for development and has services to the edge of the site’.
The situation with the Celtic ground at Lennoxtown is quite simple. There is not, never has been and is never likely to be any residential housing development on it because of Greenbelt restrictions and planning constraints. Therefore the site cannot be valued on the basis that it is for housebuilding because if it was Celtic wouldn’t have been able to afford or want it for training facilities. Perhaps Rangers had different intentions when they bought Murray Park and we may learn more on this shortly but it is not The Celtic Way to needlessly throw money away.
But let’s go back a bit and deal with the spurious allegation that this land sale was basically engineered by one person who is accused of possibly being a Celtic supporter; possibly being a Parkhead ST holder; and possibly being a Celtic shareholder but who definitely has a ‘suspicious’ name.
In 1998 the Secretary of State for Scotland approved the closure of Lennox Castle and because of the economic impact on Lennoxtown a taskforce was created by East Dunbartonshire Council, Scottish Enterprise (Dunbartonshire) and Greater Glasgow Primary Care NHS Trust.
Because the Lennoxtown regeneration was seen as a long-term process the taskforce and local community members set-up the Lennoxtown Initiative whose running costs and objectives were to be met through receipts from land sales on Governmernt-owned land. Tbf this is State Aid to an economically disadvantaged area in operation and allowed under Euro Rules and legislation.
However because of planning constraints and subsequent lack of interest in the land involved things didn’t look hopeful until a joint planning initiative between housebuilder McTaggart & Mickel and Lennoxtown Initiative which saw the builder relinquish planning rights on its nearby land at Hole Farm. This gave East Dunbartonshire Council the wiggle-room to allow planning permission for houses on the Lennox Castle lower site in-line with the Draft Local Plan.
However before it could agree to anything Greater Glasgow Primary Care NHS Trust had to seek permission from Greater Glasgow NHS Board which was given on 22 October 2002 – the minutes of the meeting and the draft document outlining the issue in great detail is a matter of public record lon.g before Celtic became involved
The 2002 GG NHS Board meeting also noted wrt to Lennox Castle upper site – now the home of Celtic’s training facilities and Football Academy: ‘The Trust has worked with East Dunbartonshire Council and Lennoxtown Initiative to reach agreement on the disposal of the upper part of the site on the basis that this will be developed for Greenbelt Compatible Leisure use. This disposal is embraced by the Tripartite Agreement.’
The Board Meeting also noted: ‘Forecast receipts from the disposal of the upper site are minimal on the basis of the Greenbelt Compatible Leisure planning use designation for this part of the site. Any receipts generated from this use will accrue to Lennoxtown Initiative. In the unlikely event that the upper site is developed for a use other than Greenbelt Compatible Leisure use, then the receipts will be shared on the basis of a formula contained within the Agreement.
‘The Agreement provides for East Dunbartonshire Council to have a 17 year option on the upper site which it can only exercise on behalf of Lennoxtown Initiative.’
As well as the agreement of GG NHS Trust Board the Scottish Government Ministers also had to agree to the money raised from the land sales going to the Lennoxtown regeneration under the control of Lennoxtown Initiative. The guy with the ‘dodgy’ Celtic-associated name was the GG NHS Board CEO who was the authorised signatory for his employer and didn’t even have a vote in the decision to see the land sold. Still with a name like that he must be guilty of something – maybe it was doing his job impartially and professionally.
ANTIPODEAN RED
Laughed at your overnight post,bud.
HH
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
12:08 on 8 January, 2014
NAT KNOW
Is that what they are?
I simply avoid orange buses.
Blue taxis,though? Now that’s a different matter……
I only ever use big yellow taxis – with a splash of green and white on them. ;-)
Yossarian67
Great name by the way, one of my favourite books.
I was trying to remember if Lennoxtown was GCC or East Dumbartonshire or even Stirling Council.
The Honest Mistake loves being first
11.29 Repost
Re lennoxtown:
This land is our land
——————————————————————————————————–
Mockery at its finest. Can we all join in, please?
This land ain’t your land
Hendrix67
Lennoxtown is in East Dunbartonshire
Land deals?.What happened to “Pacific shelf”What happened to the money we stashed away when we used to cut 10,000 off the crowd every week.I am sure this was reported to someone,anyone.
I really am finding it hard to keep up with these scandals.How can our club not have deals with Adidas,tie ups with American giants,have 500,000,000 people all over the world watching our games for £1,have blue chip investors forming disorderly lines outside the “Big hoose with sackfuls of dosh to invest?.
I really am at my wits end .I am off to Antalya for a wee lie doon.
Look what’s become of us!
de minimus on CQN
We’re doomed.
AULDHEID
The simple answer is for all land/property deals involving councils and football teams to be investigated.
Albion Car Park. For instance.
hendrix67
12:19 on 8 January, 2014
Yossarian67
Great name by the way, one of my favourite books.
I was trying to remember if Lennoxtown was GCC or East Dumbartonshire or even Stirling Council.
Cheers great book it was under Stirling till 1975 I think then was under East Dumbartonshire after never Glasgow but hey why let facts get in the way of a story eh rangers standard indeed :)
The Battered Bunnet
12:25 on 8 January, 2014
Look what’s become of us!
de minimus on CQN
We’re doomed.
De minimis non curat praetor (“The praetor does not concern himself with trifles”)
Indeed not – Praetor67 is too busy with a moothfull of Jelly ‘n’ Ice Cream.
:-)
Like all good science – theories are improved with new observations.
NatKnow – Supporting Wee Oscar
12:00 on
8 January, 2014
NatKnow – Supporting Wee Oscar
12:00 on 8 January, 2014
greenmaestro
11:43 on 8 January, 2014
Zombie Grief Cycle:
1.Stupidity
2.Anger
3.Deady-ness
4.Anger
5.Liquidation
6. GOTO 1
Yossarian67
To be fair, this type of crap IS standard for them.
Trabzonspor v Celtic
Live Audio to all from 1830 tomorrow, at Celtic TV.
Video footage available from 2355.
The Turkish club Trabzonspor were formed in 1967.
2009/14 UEFA ranking: 71 (Celts 61)
2013/14 UEFA coeff: 28 (Celts 56)
No mugs, no injuries, please.
Oldtim sorry but unfortunately i cant get into my emails this morning . I,ll be in touch when i get it fixed .
Jimtim.
Last night i asked the great celtic family for some advice.i posted this.
Does anyone know if there are still flights going into carrickfin donegal from either Glasgow or prestwick airports, andi f so how frequent are the flights. Any help appreciated.. Not one fellow fan offered any advice . many thanks
liveonsat has game on tomorrow night on Turkish channel..
if you know of or have a moving dish you will be able to pick it up
hopefully CelticTV may show it also
Right, who’s gonnae ‘start the ball rolling’ on murray park and the albion car park….?
Wait a minute……no point, they’ll be ‘shut doon, soon’……..hahahahahahaha
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
12:34 on 8 January, 2014
liveonsat has game on tomorrow night on Turkish channel..
if you know of or have a moving dish you will be able to pick it up
hopefully CelticTV may show it also
Be on in Angels, surely? Last time I was in the entire pub was moving, never mind the dish! :-)