Keep our name out of it, Salmond

I’ve heard some utter tosh from politicians over the years but never anything so blatantly untrue as the comments from our First Minister, Alex Salmond, reported today.  This clown is telling people Rangers need to be saved for the sake of Celtic.  He said:

“The most diehard Celtic supporter understands that Celtic can’t prosper unless Rangers are there. The rest of the clubs understand that as well. Therefore you have to have cognisance of these things when you’re pursuing public policy.

Keep our name out of it you incoherent fool.

If our prosperity depends on the survival of Rangers it’s time our values and priorities changed.  You of all people should know this after your lecturing last year.  Celtic have not been well served by their association with Rangers, nor vice versa.  As a combined entity, the ‘Old Firm’ have not been good for Scotland.

I’m keen to hear what his “public policy” on the matter is.  Salmond goes on to say:

“We’ve certainly been arguing to HMRC on one hand, and indeed to Rangers, to for goodness sake get a settlement, get a settlement and a structure over time whereby Rangers can continue because Rangers must continue for the future of Scottish football and for the fabric of the country.”

How dare you argue with HMRC?  Even Rangers admit the potential underpayment could be £75m.  How many nurses, teachers and policemen would that employ, Mr Salmond?  This is the true cost of his position.

This sorry business has nothing to do with Celtic, I hope our club make this clear to provocative politicians.  All you die-hard Celtic supporters out there better let this man know he has no right to speak for you.

“Fabric of the country”. He got that bit right, alas.

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  • Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

    Trevor Steven career went so Everton-Rangers-Marseille-Rangers

    Everton valued him at £2m+, Rangers offered £500K, it went to a tribunal, RFC were ordered to pay £1.5m, 12 months later he went for treble that. Stank at the time, even more rancid now.

    I wonder if that´s being investigated.

    I wonder if that´s why mild mannered Trevor is now au fait with hun demise ?

    Hail Hail

  • hen1rik

    I got a text there saying Murray will buy rangers and take them out of admin, press conference at 15:30 and he will get them there 10pts back lol.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

  • voguepunter

    Will some nice CQNer call Gordon wiggy Smith,and let him
    know what’s going on.
    Thank you.

  • RalphWaldoEllison-is Neil Lennon Season 2011-12

    HMRC know who they are dealing with.
    They have had years of dealing with his equally dodgy predecessor.
    Whyte has shown himself to be dishonest and unreliable.
    While arguing over two tax bills from HMRC, he fails to pay his current tax bill.
    HMRC would be mad to enter into any arrangement with Whyte or the Administrators representing his interests.

    Whyte is the type of guy who used to be exposed in a column in the Sunday Mail years ago. Maybe it still exists.

    The Judge would expose double glazing firms that took orders and money then didn’t do the work or sent in clowns to install the wrong stuff.
    Owner would then fold the firm and blame the economy, bad luck, the taxman (Hee Hee) or his mother-in-law.
    He would drop off the radar and then reappear 3 months later selling the same crap to the same people with the same result.

    HMRC beware!!

  • ernie lynch

    lochgoilhead bhoy says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:39

    You appear to be an SNP sock puppet whose purpose is to win Celtic fans over to support for your party.

    I suspect your efforts are being counter productive.

    Keep up the good work.

  • smickster

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:08

    Take it Margaret Curran gets a bye?

  • lochgoilhead bhoy

    Len Brennan says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:41
    “Politians amaze me.
    Now David Cameron has stated that he hopes Rankers can survive and thrive and that he hoped the HMRC could work with the club to help make this happen!”

    OK, ernie lynch – Che, what do you think of that quote from your leader?

  • RalphWaldoEllison-is Neil Lennon Season 2011-12

    hen1rik says:

    16 February, 2012 at 13:43

    I got a text there saying Murray will buy rangers and take them out of admin, press conference at 15:30 and he will get them there 10pts back lol.

    Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

    Aye I heard that he offered a pound for them.

    And Whyte accepted it.

  • ernie lynch

    hen1rik says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:43
    ‘I got a text there saying Murray will buy rangers and take them out of admin’

    Sir David?
    Paul?
    Al?

  • jmcgtimalloy

    From today’s Evening Times

    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/council-and-government-ready-to-aid-rangers-as-ex-mp-demands-probe-so-how-can-we-help-1.1148189

    Tory councillor David Meikle is talking about assisting the rotten mob. Labour councillor Alistair Watson is quoted as saying that the council should facilitate the rotten mob’s survival. Wee Feck has already made his feelings clear.

    As a Glasgow City Council Tax and UK income tax payer (like everyone else apart from bankrupt FC), I find these comments very illuminating. I shall certainly remember them when I next vote.

    Actually, I don’t find them that illuminating. I always knew that establishment would circle the wagons.

    Let’s aim for a hun free and socialist Scotland.

    And remember, there’e only one team in Govan…….. St Anthony’s!!!!!

  • philvisreturns

    The Battered Bunnet – What School of Economics did you go to Alex?

    One where he learned that Scotland can be “independent” while simultaneously being subservient to the EU (ask the Greeks, the Irish, etc. how “independent” they feel now).

    One where apparently an “independent” Scotland would be a whimsical place, full of rivers of chocolate, rainbows, and children laughing with gumdrop smiles, and no need to increase taxes to pay for it all – no, siree! The magic money tree will take care of it all.

    So I think he went to Hogwarts. (thumbsup)

  • Dobbo

    hen1rik says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:36

    That is written from an administration professional’s (assuming she is not support staff) perspective.

    Legally it is not so simple in practice.

    Unless there is a buyer prepared to take a £100m hit, or HMRC take a hit, Rangers (in administration) will be Rangers (in liquidation).

  • THE EXILED TIM

    Joe Filippis Haircut says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:39

    I have been banging on for months about the power of the goatfiddlers, these people are NOT to be underestimated.

  • lochgoilhead bhoy

    ernie lynch says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:44

    Che, I’ve told you already that you do not know me or my political allegiances.

    What I do object to is your inability to have an original thought and your persistent technique of passing off guesswork as fact. I have yet to come across a post of yours which is either original or interesting. You really are a waste of space.

  • up_over_goal

    OK, so that’s SNP, Labour and the Conservatives all calling for Rangers to be saved. United they stand.

    Green Party it is.

    Recycle the huns.

  • Silas

    On their “assets”,

    I thought that murray park has been sold to MIH and that they leased it?

    The book value of asbestox might be £100m, but the real value is probably negative as the cost of the clean up would need to be met.

    Anyone know?

    Oh, and £49,000,000 = 13,000,000 portions of jelly and ice cream.

  • Paul67

    Fighting the Fuz, cheers.

    Glover, good point.

    Folly Folly, aye, the “fabric of the country” is not worth saving.

    Sneddoni, ha! Never thought of that. All that missing data has not been seen by the First Minister.

    playfusbal4dguilders, cheers.

    Papa John, Dissolved is the term used by Companies House to describe a company once it has been liquidated and the forms filled out. Thanks.

    southbhoy, cheers.

    Stephen Black, too true.

    IanBhoy929, cheers.

    obonfanti1888, I sure will.

    BroonSauce, cheers.

    ulysses mcghee, many thanks.

    Headtheball, thanks.

    Billy’s Bhoy, yes, I am sure he will.

    Richie, aye, I know how to turn the ‘tanks’ on when needed :-)

    Freddiebhoy, the people from Donaghy Limited must be wondering when the help is arriving.

  • ernie lynch

    philvisreturns says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:45

    Salmond’s vision of an independent Scotland.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs5bnVoZK4Q&feature=related

  • bamboo

    We need to find out a bit more on the Uefa -Fifa rulings re goverment interference in football business.

  • Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

    Come on bhoys get with the program.

    Hun cannot pay the tax man back if he cannot play and qualify for European competition. In fact some would argue specifically the Champions league.

    Huns CANNOT play in Europe if they owe 1 penny in tax….. even if David Cameron and Alex Salmond were to promise to do a naked floor show wile covered in gel it woudl not change the UEFA statues ONE LITTLE BIT

    Any talk of a solution that will keep all partners happy is due to arithmetic ineptness.

    Anybody who wants to run an economy CANNOT be arithmetically inept.

    NOBODY CAN TALK ABOUT A VIABLE BUSINESS PLAN FOR THE HUN WHO IS NOT WILLING TO GIFT 75M POUNDS TO RANGERS

    HAil HAil

  • Folly Folly

    Parcel =====>

  • Divitbhoy

    Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon says:

    16 February, 2012 at 13:16

    Is it just me or is anybody else concerned that the people writing these things have had their names and addresses published. If I was one I would ensure my doors were locked tight, we all know what thems are capable of.
    I can’t gauge the feeling of other clubs supporters fully but I get the impression that any public bail out or thems seemingly getting away with years of cheating could have a worse effect on the state of the Scottish game than thems going bust, just a thought.

    Jelly and ice cream

  • Neil Lennon says NO to BESNA!!

    So their 3 major sponsor have come out with words of support for the hun..
    Tennents..already on my blacklist and have been for years, rancid stuff.
    JJB..already on my blacklist and have been since they whored themselves into bed with the huns..
    Audi..i think im on their blacklist..

  • Kevtic

    Salmond now aiding this National Scandal and abetting criminality in Scotland.

  • hen1rik

    ernie lynch says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:45
    hen1rik says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:43
    ‘I got a text there saying Murray will buy rangers and take them out of admin’

    Sir David?
    Paul?
    Al?

    share
     
    Paul

  • Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon

    jmcgtimalloy,

    Wasn’t Cllr Alastair Watson previously chair of Strathclyde Passenger Transport Executive? And wasn’t he one of a delegation that was in Manchester of the day of the UEFA Cup final, supposedly for a meeting?

    And didn’t their Manchester equivalents later confirm that there was no meeting on that day?

  • musters

    Big fan of Salmond usually but you’re right he’s talking out his elbow here. I suspect he’s simply being political although how many Rangers fans vote SNP is questionable.

  • Frankly Franky

    Fellow Celtic Fans. Its time to let a little reality creep back into our lives.

    The ongoing problems across the city are hilarious, self inflicted and well deserved but the latest string of posts following Salmond’s comments are mainly drivel. I have never (and will never) support the SNP but if you read the comment quoted by P67 by Salmond it does not suggest “letting them off” with anything.

    They face almost certain liquidation and will almost certainly attempt to phoenix as a new business. The SPL then has a serious dilemma on its hands. Do you re-admit them to save tv contracts etc and in doing so encourage Hearts, Killie etc to follow suit, or do you punt them out and risk weakening the brand of Scottish football. And make no mistake – the brand is weaker without them. The self deluded majority who are on the “better without them” bandwaggon are in for a rude awakening if it happens.

    In the late 90′s a worldwide tv network (sky etc) carried out research into the popularity of derby matches. A Spurs v Arsenal game returned viewing figures of 850,000. Celtic v Rangers was 35 million, a week or two later. We can only guess what any other 2 SPL teams might muster. We dont want to be associated with the Manchester marauders and each of us can justify why we shouldn’t be, but the world sees us as a couple. Get used to it.

  • Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

    wile=while
    would=would
    statues=statutes

    Spelling checker = switched off Mmmhhhhhhhhhhhhh…………..

    Hail Hail

  • quonno

    Mort says:
    16 February, 2012 at 12:22
    starry plough at 12:19

    Not half as grateful as the Dublin folk were that THEY failed to reach last year’s final.

  • row z \o/ (O) Truth 2012 (Truth? – You Can’t Handle The Truth!)

    Now let me get this right (not as smart as you think you are) Alec;

    You have been insistent that for several hundred years Scotland and England have prospered together in a union, but now it’s time to end that union and that Scotland can not only survive but prosper on it’s own. A divorce if you will. That’s what you want me to vote yes to in 2014? This is because we have fundamentally different outlooks and values and should pursue those differently?

    For over 100 years Celtic has been locked into a union with Rangers, a forced marriage by all accounts, (some would call it the Old Firm) but now it’s time to end that union (since one of us is dying). A bereavement if you will. However, whilst my honour spouse has been sickly for some considerable time, used various doping methods to prolong life and largely ignored the health warnings, I have been extremely healthy and my personal outlook is looking pretty good. My inheritance is looking sound and is likely to increase my own personal well-being for some considerable time. In fact I expect to prosper. My values and outlook remain far from those of my honour spouse, even though we have spent so long together.

    So tell me Alec, why is it that I should remain in an abusive relationship derived of an arranged marriage in order to prolong the life chances of my abusive partner yet you don’t apply the same logic or loyalty when it is elevated to issues of nationhood? An answer prior to the vote in 2014 would be desirable!

    Yours in independence and freedom

    Celtica (victim of personal and institutional abuse)

  • Big Nan

    Salmond says “ Rangers must continue for the future of Scottish football and for the fabric of the country.”

    That’s now what was said in Newcastle, 1969, Barcelona, 1972 and Manchester more recently. Read these Mr Salmond:
    ———————————————————————————–
    The Scotsman, Friday, May23, 1969

    ANIMALS OF OUR FOOTBALL JUNGLE

    NOT so long ago, we were talking of football animals from another continent and sneering about moats and wire fences to keep them in their compounds; then, suddenly, at Newcastle there was the need for the moat or a fence and the realisation that here in Britain there was a football jungle.

    There should have been no surprise, for the frenzied extremists who have attached themselves to the Rangers Football Club have grown in numbers, in arrogance, and in ferocity—and they seemed to be all in Newcastle.
    ———————————————————————————–
    Page 1, Glasgow Herald, Friday, May 26, 1972.

    Spain protests to Britain over rioting Rangers fans

    By CHARLES GILLIES

    The Spanish Government yesterday called in a senior British Embassy official in Madrid to complain about the conduct of Rangers supporters who invaded the pitch in Barcelona on Wednesday night at the end of the European Cup-Winners’ Cup match against Moscow Dynamo, which the Glasgow club won 3-2.

    In London the Foreign Office said last night that they were waiting for a full report of “these regrettable incidents” from their Madrid Embassy and that they were also in touch with their consulate in Barcelona.
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    SEPTEMBER 2010
    Last week, a judge at Manchester Crown Court jailed nine of the troublemakers, and detained two in young offenders institutions.
    He described the events as “the worst night of violence and destruction suffered by Manchester city centre since the Blitz”.

  • celtic40me

    we all knew this was how it would play out, doesn’t make it any less infuriating.

    what is it about the huns (no on likes us we don’t care) that makes people want to save them. a football club that goes out of its way to make themselves unpopular wherever they go, that gives scotland a bad reputation in cities all over europe, that promotes social discord, and is the catalyst for sectarian violence all over the country. they cheat on the pitch and in the boardroom.

    if fans really are a football club then hell mend every single one of the scottish politicians who is making comments about “helping them out”

    turn off the life support machine and give us all a break

  • St Martin’s Bhoy

    Re Cameron, I expected him to come out with something along those lines. He’s a politician….and not a very good one.

    As many have pointed out on here over the last 36-48 hours, politicians are in politics for two reasons: to hear their own voices and to TRY and get people to like them. The perception/myth is that ran**rs are wonderful and that lots of people love them. The hope is that if they (politicians) say “nice” things about them all these people will think “actually, Cameron/Salmond/whoever isn’t that bad”.

    Yes it’s crazy, egotistical, self-publicising, naiive, wrong and horribly mis-guided but as I say…he’s a politician……and not a very good one!

  • Joe Filippis Haircut

    THE EXILED TIM You are correct I personaly have fell foul of them a couple of times and they dont mind useing every dirty trick in the book and some that are not.Somone on CQN said recently prepared to be amazed well if our eyes are open we are starting to see amazing things a Prime minister and a First ministe showing support to the fraudulent cheating Rangers and asking HMRC to go easy. H.H.

  • Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

    Frankly Franky says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:52

    I dont give two tuppeny sucks about Scottish footballs brand only Celtics brand.

    Hail Hail

  • Celtic Mac

    Paul67 et al

    Does not Alex Salmond know that Rangers are already but a hollowed shell, literally and metaphorically. There is nothing to save, but only to prolong. A casualty of their own design, deceipt, hypocrisy and hubris. And David Murray!

  • THE EXILED TIM

    Awe_Naw

    I think you need to get with the programe :>)

    The hun have been playing in europe for years while they owed tax, or have I missed something ?

  • Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

    TET

    I think you missed the statement from Rangers administrators about there being NO AUDITED ACCOUNTS AND NO AGM

    HAil Hail

  • Billy’s Bhoy

    Ernie Lynch

    I am absolutely certain that these views are shared and echoed by labour politicians such as Andrew Kerr ex Finance and Health Minister, Brian Donohoe MP amongst other promininent Rangers supporting Labour politicians.

    Politics and votes make for strange bedfellows.

  • quonno

    What ever happened to keeping politics and politicians out of sport?

  • Len Brennan

    This is the interview from BBC which appears to be a straight-forward interview about Cameron’s political view of the independence question, however the sneaky wee barsteward interviewing him has a fly final question which is the one which will make all the headlines.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17063060

    Scroll to 8mins 11secs to hear the full question and his answer.
    Looks a bit like a mugging to me and I feckin hate the Tories.

    HH
    /Bishop B

  • Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo

    Billy’s Bhoy says:
    16 February, 2012 at 13:59

    Aye but they are not in power

    HAil HAil

  • Celticbhoy

    Copy of the letter sent to Salmond today:
    Dear Mr Salmond,
    There is a sea-change in the thought process of the People of Scotland.
    Non payment of tax is no longer seen as a non- victim crime as we all see the hardship brought on the poorer members of the People of Scotland.

    The People of Scotland now see tax avoiders in the same light as bankers bonuses or MP’s inappropriate expenses claims.
    You are usually good at seeing/feeling the mood of the People of Scotland, therefore, I am bemused as to your comments:
    “We’ve certainly been arguing to HMRC on one hand, and indeed to Rangers, to for goodness sake get a settlement, get a settlement and a structure over time whereby Rangers can continue because Rangers must continue for the future of Scottish football and for the fabric of the country.”
    What must continue `for the fabric of the country` is the abhorrence of organisations contrived non-payment of taxes!
    No matter who or what they are everyone must pay their fair share!
    This is the Scotland I want, the one where a `man’s a man for awe that`!
    This is the Scotland I had hoped to see when I changed my vote from being a member of the Scottish Labour Party to voting SNP (Please don’t let me feel I have made a mistake)!
    Those who withhold payment have to either pay or feel the full force of the penalties available to prevent others doing the same. Zero tolerance!
    I pay all the tax I am supposed to and am happy to do so in the knowledge of what benefits those taxes bring to my community and country.

    The moral issue is too important. The financial issue is too important. The need for as much money as possible for the services and benefits these taxes bring are to important for the People of Scotland.

    Yours,

  • Burnley78

    For my sins I worked in the Scottish Government for a year recently……

    I left on realising what an utterly rancid environment it is….

    Self serving individuals who have no grasp of anything ‘real’ at the heart of their endeavours.

    There every action is to protect their personal futures or enhance their public standing….morality doesn’t come close

    The Scottish media depend on them as they do the old firm………..civil servants or should it be self servants

    It is no surprise to see our politicians ‘buying the line’ and perpetuating it’ we need rangers…..even Cameron has been ‘got at’.

    The truth is most other clubs do not need them and many know that……

    We need to ensure every football club (not just Celtic) stands up and is counted this weekend……

    Banners displaying ‘WE DONT NEED THEM SALMOND’ ‘WE DONT SUPPORT CHEATS AND TAX DODGERS’

    ……at both ends of each every stadium for every SPL game would work a treat

  • THE EXILED TIM

    Awe_Naw

    I think you missed my :>)

    Of course they wont have euro football.

  • Timabhouy

    YES I VOTE SNP AS I AM A NATIONALIST ,ALL POLITICIANS SAY AND DO THINGS THAT WE DONT LIKE OR AGREE WITH,SALMOND IS NO EXEPTION BUT ONCE YOUR COUNTRY BECOMES INDEPENDENT YOU CAN GO BACK TO VOTING FOR LABOUR ,TORYS ,LIB DEMS AND PUT THEM BACK IN POWER .

  • northshorebhoy

    Great dodge by the PM.

    VERY, VERY careful what he said.

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