‘Only Newco option is SPL’ utter rubbish

Scottish Premier League chief executive, Neil Doncaster, yesterday told the BBC that no provision existed for a liquidated SPL club to reconvene as a Newco FC at the bottom of the Scottish Football League (reported at 1821 on their crisis timeline).

This is being grossly misreported to suggest that the only opportunity for a Rangers Newco to phoenix is to slip straight back into the SPL – completely and utterly untrue.

There is also no provision for a Newco FC to slip into the SPL.  Newco FC would be able to apply for membership to the Scottish Football League (where they would unquestionably be accepted) or the Scottish Premier League.

The default position when a club goes out of business in the Scottish Premier League is that the club that finishes bottom of the league at the end of the season escapes relegation.  As things stand, Dunfermline would remain an SPL club and Ross County would be promoted.

No moral, legal or football administrative argument has been made to suggest that Dunfermline will be relegated to allow a new club entry into the league.  None whatsoever.  Dunfermline Athletic will remain a SPL club if Rangers are liquidated.

The various parties seeking to phoenix Rangers would get the lawyers onto securing a stadium, scouting some part-timers, buying a ticketing system, applying for entry into the Scottish Football League and finding cash to employ stadium stewarding. This could take weeks but is more likely to take months or even years.

Football needs to get used to this idea.

Neil Doncaster did not suggest a Newco FC applying for entry into the SPL had any primacy over an application to the SFL.  In fact, an application to the SFL would not have to overcome the unfortunate objections of Dunfermline Athletic  - who pay their BBC licence fee and are worthy of due respect.

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  • Ellboy – I am Neil Lennon, YNWA.

    Paul67

    Any chance a Newco could replace St Mirren in the SPL.

    St Mirren’s statement today seems a tad fishy, perhaps a deal is already in the works to buy St Mirren along with it’s SPL status.

  • blantyretim

    ellbhoy

    do ou think Danny Lennon would remain as the manager? o))

  • ASonOfDan

    Funny how the bares always referred to us as the Kerrydale Street Accountants every time we brought up their finances in the last couple of years.

    Not laughing now ya bunch of feking imbeciles…

  • gordybhoy64

    GENIUS AGAIN

  • themightyquinn

    For Sale: £49 Miilion Tax Liability framed within a bottomless pit. No Time Wasters.

  • RobertTressell

    Paul and others, you say it will take a long time for Newco’s people to do the necessary and you rightly add that Scottish Fitba needs to get used to this idea – a world without rangers for a significant length of time.

    My question….. are you or is anyone else aware of what clubs like Aberdeen, Hibs, DUFC or indeed others like the Mothers of Well are doing to prepare? Do they have the first clue? Are they standing idly by? Is anyone out there formulating a plan to fill the vacuum? Are they rubbing their hands Dick Dastardly style and looking to reap the abundant crop that has been fertilised by Rangers failure?

    I would hope so. I might sound like a broken record on this but I believe Celtic need strong and healthy competition (as a Celtic supporter I of course hope these strong challenges fail in the last few weeks of each season! But I think I could cope with two or three in a row and a good ‘New Firm’ or Hibs side picking up a league trophy if they are worthy of it)

    Who do you and others think are the ‘most likely to succeed’? Or am I in cloud Cuckoo land?

  • Ellboy – I am Neil Lennon, YNWA.

    blantyretim

    More chance of John Lennon.

  • blantyretim

    ellbhoy

    Imagine?

  • Agent Craig “Green and” Whyte!!

    The talk of newhunco having to aquire a ground,players, staff etc etc before appling for membership to the SFL.
    Well what about clubs already up and running and more than capable of playing in the SFL.One example being Spartans F.C. who applied along with Annan Athletic the last time a vacancy became available when Gretna folded.
    Surely it makes more sense to invite Spartans into the league.Rather than wait and hope newhunco get to the required level in time for the season starting.
    Newhunco then wait until the next vacancy comes up, which surely wont be long looking at the debt hearts are carrying.

  • Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

    Do HMRC have a say in how the assets are broken up to maximise return

  • RobertTressell

    traditionalist88 on 7 March, 2012 at 20:05 said:
    Eyes Wide Open

    Will have a peek later, comedy gold some of it… this will keep ye going:

    “We dont lose our history. History isnt owned by a company. The history is held by the people who support the club.
    So what if were liquidated. GLASGOW RANGERS will still be playing at ibrox stadium. We’ll all still go and watch every week.”
    —————————————————————————–

    Wonder if they will still want their history when it becomes covered in Asterix’s (plural???) and a footnote saying Title stripped due to cheating. Or simply a succession of ‘Last Places’ and Eliminated from Cups by default/ cheating………

    If they know their History!

  • Ron Bacardi

    Ellboy – I am Neil Lennon, YNWA. on 7 March, 2012 at 20:26 said:
    Paul67

    Any chance a Newco could replace St Mirren in the SPL.

    St Mirren’s statement today seems a tad fishy, perhaps a deal is already in the works to buy St Mirren along with it’s SPL status.
    ————————————————————————-
    records would surely then have to be changed to show that St Mirren won hunners of things

  • sixtaeseven

    rANGERs may have played their last game.

    That is all
    ;o)

  • sparkleghirl

    Surely if they buy St Mirren, they inherit St Mirren’s history, even if they later change the name?

  • Percy Vere

    Was having a bit of fun on twitter, then it got a bit out of hand. Or did it? You decide? It began with:

    Re Gers adoption of One Step Beyond as goal celebration – maybe they should play this if they have another home game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdAcG24iI_w
    Then:
    Or, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDfvXrMnJu0&feature=related Geddit? or is it too “taxing”? Or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iibpewIA_ik&feature=related. Or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwBCu4-6UuA&feature=related. What about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Znh0OM9jiA.
    Before I knew it I’d tweeted:
    Or, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDfvXrMnJu0&feature=related Geddit? or is it too “taxing”? Or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iibpewIA_ik&feature=related. Or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwBCu4-6UuA&feature=related. What about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Znh0OM9jiA.

    Anyway, my favourite was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si3Dxc4fv8I, for Sugg’s incredibly apt question, at the very end.

    Do Do Do Do Do………I’m lovin it

    HH

    PV

  • Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon

    So where is the mass Save The Huns movement? Where are the millions raised through their wee web site? Where are the plans for the future?

    Or are they all still thinking this is just a timmy scare story and it will all come right soon?

  • sparkleghirl

    Rangers. Out of Europe 3 times in one season. ;)

  • jackie mac

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/
    admin meeting new owners on the blue flashing bar on bbc website

  • sixtaeseven

    I may have to explain to my grandchildren that their name is “NewCo” not “NewCo Nil”

    ;o)

  • pheersy

    more comedy gold on follow follow :
    How do we contact UEFA…
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by smkz23 who wants to report SFA to EUFA
    someone replied :
    How have the SFA shafted us?? – seems to me Craig Whyte has done that.
    his reply
    Are you havin a laugh here, mate?? The S.F.A., have shafted us for at least 15-20 years. Duncan Ferguson, no European Final at the only 5* Stadium in Scotland, before the abortion that is known as hampdump. Derek Johnstone top goalscorer before 78 world cup, & Joe ‘F8ckin’ Harper gets on before him.
    Yes Craig Whyte shafted us, but for god sake man get a grip!!!

  • roy croppie

    I knew they were jingoistic but they’re taking this euro-scepticism too far.

  • The Onlooker

    Unless someone has beaten me to it I would like to be the first to congratulate Ally and the FoD on being the first team to achieve a remarkable treble.
    OUT OF EUROPE THREE TIMES IN ONE SEASON !

  • jimtim

    THE EXILED TIM on 7 March, 2012 at 20:14 said:

    jimtim

    That’s who I thought you meant, but am surprised as the flying pig was there as well, but needs must I suppose

    the goalie was how goram referred to himself . .

  • Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire

    Dont the same rules apply to get a license from the sfa

  • The Onlooker

    Sparkleghirl ya beat me to it

  • sparkleghirl

    The Onlooker on 7 March, 2012 at 20:38 said:
    Unless someone has beaten me to it I would like to be the first to congratulate Ally and the FoD on being the first team to achieve a remarkable treble.
    OUT OF EUROPE THREE TIMES IN ONE SEASON !
    ———————————-

    Sorry mate :

    sparkleghirl on 7 March, 2012 at 20:35 said:
    Rangers. Out of Europe 3 times in one season. ;)

  • wonkyradar

    Seriously: how much would the much vaunted Blue gimps of the rim actually need to consolidate the huns as a viable competitive business for next season?

    At least 100m…

    Long term: 150-200m? Is it really possible any buyers would actually have that kind of liquid funding available in this current financial climate?

  • voguepunter

    hamiltontim on 7 March, 2012 at 20:23 said:

    That’s a beaut ,Kittoch will be raging,which is nice.

  • kikinthenakas

    Wee post fae Gordon j from yesterday

    Super Sally McMoist could go down in history as the only manager to leave Rangers with fewer league titles than when he took the job.

    See, there’s yir credit!

  • Percy Vere

    Woops, sorry fholks, repasted the same links towards the end, meant to do:
    Not forgetting Our (Big) Hoose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4RWBCEFRo, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpN_TOP9hg8. Last one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si3Dxc4fv8I. OK, 1 more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMnI1S5W4qI

    The third link is “Crying shame”, which has the apt question at the end – click on it if you can’t be bothered with the rest..

    HH

    PV

  • Auld Neil Lennon heid

    Auld Neil Lennon heid on 7 March, 2012 at 20:27 said:

    Walter Smithi still in denial.

    If anybody contributed to Rangers problems it was Walter Smith. They had £6M of debt in 2006 and by 2009 it had gone up to £31M mainly from transfers in and wages offered.

    He was not a manager who could develop players (Adams for example) but one who used a template of experienced but expensive ones to win games at any cost.

    Now that cost is being revealed and he does not seem to realise his part in bringing it about.

    I saw his reaction to the idea of titles being removed which suggests he is still in denial of the principles at play. These principles/values are about to turn his world and “achievments” upside down.

  • Ellboy – I am Neil Lennon, YNWA.

    blantyretim

    I’m an eternal skeptic, I don’t trust anything coming out of Ipox, Admin, The SFA or the Media. I have no doubts they will be liquidated however this for me is not enough. I can see a Newco being quickly established with current players signed over for buttons. In essence a clean club with playing Assets & no debts. St Mirren may well be a casualty to make this a possibility? Better to pee off a few thousand St Mirren fans than many thousands of Animals. If a Newco playing in the SPL becomes the likely scenario then I hope Celtic have a plan to stop this from happening. Probably extreme but ultimately this may come down too an us or them scenario.

  • By day I’m ‘Mike in Toronto’ but on Sunday ‘I’m Neil Lennon’

    bournesouprecipe @ 20:25

    Hopefully you will be able to post the same thing every week from now on!

  • hamiltontim

    VP

    Originally it was Paul McStay but I changed my mind at the last minute!

  • THE EXILED TIM

    jimtim

    Nothing like having a high opinion of yourself.

    Ths Goalie, ffs.

  • Timabhouy

    god bless her majesty

  • Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon

    kkikinthenakas,

    Cheers!

    Now if only I could find the one about Sally beating his own record for the earliest ever Europen exit.

    Love sparkleghirl’s line about three Euro exits in one season too.

  • Timabhouy

    s , revenue & customs

  • I am Neil Lennon… Larrybhoy

    Sparkleghirl and the Onlooker – not yet…. I mean surely Rangers will appeal to Uefa for special circumstances….. I mean, for the good of European football…. they must let Rangers in…. don’t Uefa realise this ? Won’t they simply change their rules ? Surely ? There will be riots if they don’t…. oh, hang on….

  • Magnificentseven

    Timabhouy……gtf……………….away and greet in a corner for the rotten corpse that was your team

  • gerald766

    The balloon is up, the balloon is up!

  • voguepunter

    James Forrest is The Emperor of Ice Cream on 7

    Very good James.
    Hamiltontim passed on your post from early Sunday morning ,I enjoyed it ,though a couple
    of paragraphs took me back to the old skinhead books from the seventies(I did read everything then)Don’t lose your passion my friend,it’s who
    you are.
    Hail hail

  • jimtim

    roy croppie on 7 March, 2012 at 20:10 said:

    Talk in ref circles is Collum for the league cup final and Brines for the next 7-1 game!
    share.

    roy my bhoy . the league cup final will take care of itself , We have a hard one coming up in the cup . Who is the mib for that one , as this game might be a tricky manouvre .

  • socrates mulligan

    Are they dead yet ?
    Are they dead yet ?
    Are they dead yet ?
    Are they dead yet ?
    Are they dead yet ?
    Are they dead yet ?
    Are they dead yet ?

  • hamiltontim

    Timabhouy

    Why do you persist on posting that on a Celtic site??

    Mmmmmmm

  • lennon’s passion

    West Wales Celt on 7 March, 2012 at 19:56 said:
    BTW what happened to Edward Ursus?

    Was wondering that myself,also where is our very own Sydney Tim not seen him on moaning about the board for a while.

  • roy croppie

    Probably street parties all over Europe as we speak as residents take in the good news, the threat of invasion is over.

  • jackie mac

    Details of a Charlie Tully commemeration in Miltown cemetary and afterwards in Paddy MCourts bar in July are at the bottom of the belfast celtic website

    http://www.belfastceltic.org/index1.html

  • 67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice will always prevail

    Messi….gonnie stope blessin’ yursel ……. it could be conscrued as ‘offensive’, and you wouldn’t be able to play for rankers at any stage of your career……

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