Aberdeen, progress and truths of competition

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Winning the league is hard, or at least it should be.  Aberdeen are finding that out as they unnecessarily dropped points on Saturday.  Celtic have had it easy for so long we’ve forgotten a few truths of competition.

Sitting 6 points clear, and (again) confident of winning the league, we can constructively appreciate the job Derek McInnes has done at Pittodrie.  They are very likely to come up short this season, but the gap between them and Celtic is not the chasm it used to be.

For years we discussed that what Scottish football really needs is teams like Aberdeen and Dundee United comfortably outperforming Motherwell and Inverness.  No disrespect intended for the latter two, but Aberdeen have hugely better resources, if we are to receive a genuine challenge, it will come from there.
I was also delighted to see the 15k attendance at Pittodrie on Saturday, reflecting the bounce that has occurred at Tynestle this season.  Figures like that will help Aberdeen (and Hearts) solidify.  Both can make a profit at that level.

Progress isn’t linear, so don’t be surprised if Aberdeen or Hearts don’t leap forward next season, but the chances of them being overhauled by a smaller club is slight.  The future looks healthier than the past.

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  1. Glass 2/3s

     

     

    Cheers. I’ll check highlights apres work ;)

     

     

     

    Tgm,

     

     

    Normal service resumed I see!? I was wondering where your film and book references have got to. :D

     

     

    HH

  2. Any update from the SFA on the new rule Steven Craigan invented on Friday night? – You know the one where when Celtic player makes contact with the ball ‘it doesn’t matter’

     

     

    Public Relations Officer CSC

  3. We all know about ‘King Midas in Reverse’ – are some suggesting that Broonie is ‘Samson in Reverse’?

     

     

    He must then be only atrracted to trustworthy women – honest barmaids perhaps?????

  4. lennon's passion hated by the clique on

    EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL on 29TH FEBRUARY 2016 3:52 PM

     

     

    That told them. Just shows you how bad RD is we would go back to Neil.

  5. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Geordie Munro

     

     

    Straight from the pages of the anarchist/surrealist collective(me) scrapbook:)

     

    You would not believe what’s in it….not sure if i do myself:)

     

    Remember though, that i noticed the connection between SB’s hair and Kryptonite first:)

     

     

    HH

  6. lennon’s passion hated by the clique on 29th February 2016 4:53 pm

     

     

    Or that people view his whole reign through green tinted glasses due to one individual error by Xavi :o

  7. Dubaibhoy-Ur they still deid? on

    EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL on 29TH FEBRUARY 2016 3:30 PM

     

    Imagine it was Ronny in charge that season.

     

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/aberdeen-progress-and-truths-of-competition/comment-page-3/#comments

     

     

    Eddie,

     

     

    you seem to be forgetting that we were in the last 16 of the chumps league, having beaten Barca at home, only to go out to Juve. How many of those poor results were the weekend before or after a big game?

     

     

    HeadinthesandCSC

  8. Saint Stivs says SACK THE BOARD on

    who’s applying ?

     

     

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    Business Development Executive

     

    Vacancy posted: Tuesday, 23 February 2016 Celtic FC Foundation

     

    Salary: £Competitive

     

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    Business Development Executive (1 year fixed term)

     

     

    (Based at Celtic Park)

     

     

    Salary: Subject to experience and qualifications

     

     

    Celtic FC Foundation is looking to recruit a Business Development Executive. Reporting to the Head of Business Development and Projects, the successful applicant will be responsible for income generation, bid writing, funding research and applications, contract management and partnership working. In doing so, the main areas of accountability will be:-

     

     

    Research and identify funding streams and opportunities to help increase Celtic FC Foundation’s impact

     

    Generate income through a variety of sources e.g. trusts and foundations, government and local authority funding, private investment, etc.

     

    Bid writing and completing funding applications

     

    Research and develop ideas for new and existing projects

     

    Manage the Service Level Agreements/Contracts process

     

    Attend events as directed by and provide support to the Head of Business Development and Projects

     

    Promote and present the ethos and aims of Celtic FC Foundation to partners, potential funders and decision makers as directed by Line Manager

     

    Liaise with Operations Team to ensure accurate data capture, information management, report writing and monitoring and evaluation

     

    Record and monitor income generation against individual targets

     

    Assist the Head of Business Development and Projects to maintain and develop relationships with partners

     

    Provide copy-writing for PR/Editorial and details for social media outlets

     

    Key administrative duties

     

    Other tasks as agreed with the Line Manager

     

    Applicants should have at least three years’ demonstrable experience in a business development role including a successful track record in income generation and achieving individual financial targets. Candidates should have experience of completing successful bids and funding applications with an understanding of projects that address a variety of social issues impacting on our four key areas of improving health, promoting equality, encouraging learning and tackling poverty.

     

     

    The successful candidate will possess excellent interpersonal, negotiation, written/verbal communication and influencing skills. They will have strong networking abilities, planning, organisational and administrative skills. They will also have strong financial management skills. Candidates must have working knowledge of Microsoft Office or XP software applications and a full UK driving licence.

     

     

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    Can you tell us about a time when you have been part of a successful bid or funding application and describe the role that you played?

     

     

    Application deadline: Friday 4th March, 2016

  9. What a waste of time this Boyata appeal is and all the hoo haa surrounding the sending-off.

     

     

    Just because he got to the ball first does not mean that he didn’t foul the player in the attempt – why are people so blind and biased?

     

     

    The challenge should not have been made – Ronny was right the first time and has been persuaded otherwise by those accusing him of ‘throwing Boyata under a bus’

  10. glendalystonsils on

    Not many people know this, but……………..

     

     

    Broony is not growing his own hair. He is a surrogate hairmother for Stokesy and Griff.

     

     

    BaldyBain CSC

  11. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Saint Stivs

     

     

    Do you think ive got a chance:)

     

    I might even wear a suit for the interview.

     

    Will they accept a 20,000 word thesis on Scottish Football as my CV.

     

    Ive got some good ideas:)

     

     

    HH

  12. Eddie why are you copying and pasting my comments?

     

     

    KLV

     

     

    EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL on 29TH FEBRUARY 2016 4:08 PM

     

    kevinlasvegas on 27th February 2013 9:37 pm

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    You guys can be snide but it still doesn’t make this performance right. Far Too many times we sit here and watch these indifferent performances and the happy clappers clap and defend that guff, The bottom line is we have no consistency from one game to the next in selection,performance or personnel. I expect better and so should the rest of us, we have no rivals and yet we still struggle. Own worst enemy. Off to bed have a good night Bhoys. ; )

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    KLv

     

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/aberdeen-progress-and-truths-of-competition/comment-page-4/#comments

  13. It’s very rare an ex defender ,not to back up another defender ,when it is very obviously a clear decision,Craigan is a rat.

  14. eddieinkirkmichael on

    Maidenbhoy on 29th February 2016 4:50 pm – This post by SFTB prity much says it for me and a few others I know, wont change your mind but hey it’s all about opinions.

     

     

    setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox on 29th February 2016 12:44 am

     

     

    HT @ 1038

     

     

    “Ok, honestly, how do you rate him against previous Celtic managers and how do you think he’ll fair against European opposition if he’s kept on next season? ”

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Ronny has achieved nothing yet to rank him anywhere in the top half of Celtic managers I have known. He also has no record of playing for Celtic which counts for some people. However, I do not see a visionary, a Norwegian diddy, a cheap option, a PE teacher, a No Plan B merchant, or a “just a nice guy”.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The way Ronny talks about football impresses me as a guy who is grounded and who knows that talk is cheap. He knows he was brought about to change the structure and direction of the club from the pragmatic football of WGS and the “here and now” winning attitude of NFL. Ronny has been charged with using the absence of the deid club to make us a fitter team that can cope with the continued regular predations by richer clubs and leagues, to produce player development that will leave us a stronger club to face the challenges we are going to face. He is a development coach and that is what we need.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    It is pie-in-the-sky thinking to believe we can cheque-book our way out of our marginal situation by taking a Redknapp or MON approach to getting in a core of tried and tested players (or in Redknapp’s case- a glut of them). When we cannot attract McGeady or Hooper back because our wage ceiling is too low for them, then it is delusional to believe that managers like MON, Redknapp, Moyes or Brendan Rogers are going to come here when they are not yet damaged in the eyes of the EPL or English Championship, where they will get paid 4 times what we can afford. As thinking, that is right up there with “Where did the Seville money go?” – the very reason this blog started.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    We might, I admit, get Malky Mackay to come up from England because he is truly toxic and won’t get job offers there. We could get Ron Atkinson too for the same reasons. We could easily get John Hughes, Paul Hartley or Alan Stubbs too but it would make a mockery of all the jibes directed at Ronny Deila when he came.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I have posted before about this “cheap option” jibe and the inexperienced jibe ( I have the post on file ready to bring up every time we become forgetful). Celtic have never employed big name, sought after managers. We have never sourced managers with vast Euro experience. Ronny Deila is clearly in the top 5 of managers with a track record and Euro experience (club level management) compared with any of our more respected managers. Most Celtic managers had done little in management before coming here, most were inexperienced managers, and most had no Euro experience.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The only two managers that cost us money to source were Tony Mowbray, who failed and lost his willingness to fight, and Tommy Burns, for whom we, uniquely, were ordered to pay compensation to his previous club because Fergus was honest and did not lie. Neither of them won a league. There is no correlation between how much we paid to recruit them and how well they did for us.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The great difficulty we face with judging Roony is knowing whether we are dealing with someone who is laying foundations and that is why there is no sign of a house yet, or someone who is laying bricks haphazardly and that is why there is no house yet nor will there ever be one.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Dario Gradi joined Crewe as manager in 1983. It took 6 years before they won promotion after 25 years as a basement club. He took them all the way to the top of the, now Championship, at Xmas 2004 before he sold Dean Ashton to Norwich and they started a slide back to their natural level.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Alex Ferguson joined Man U in 1986 as manager. It took him 4 years to win a trophy, the FA Cup, and 6 years to win the league. He stuck to his development task but he was very lucky not to have been sacked as he was subject to the same jibes of being a Scottish diddy who won an easy league, no plan B, a cheap option who lost the dressing room because he tackled the worst of the drinking culture there. He went on to be, arguably, the most successful British manager of all time. Now, you cannot find one person who owns up to having made those jibes against him but there were legions of them. They were all convinced they were right and, if the board had sacked him before 1990 or 1992, they would have remained convinced they were right because he would have had to retreat back to Scotland again as a failure.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Now Ronny may fail to be granted any more time. The majority of the Celtic support have turned against him. But, even if he does get sacked, I will remain unconvinced by the cheap arguments re cheap option, inexperienced, came from a poorer league, no Euro background etc; because those arguments will remain the nonsense that they are.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    If it ends in failure, it will be because what he has done so far has not borne fruit and his sacking will damage him and us. He may well get sacked because there is a climate of fear around them appearing in the top league and, potentially, getting the odd good result against us. I am sanguine that, if they survive financially, they will beat us again at some point and, at some point further, might take the title from us. I see no point in worrying about either of those two inevitabilities (inevitable subject to their financial health).

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The corollary of the argument that RD has left us unprepared to face the mighty Warb’s team is that he has only had one opportunity to gain the cheap kudos earned by a win over them. Nothing would make Ronny’s life at Celtic easier than a chance to rub their noses in the stink of their own inadequacy.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    If he goes, I believe he will leave as the only Celtic manager ( I don’t think Frank Connor counts) to leave with a 100% winning record against the ibrox team.

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/some-reasons-why-celtic-will-drop-a-lot-of-points/comment-page-23/#comments

  15. “Just because he got to the ball first does not mean that he didn’t foul the player in the attempt – why are people so blind and biased?”

     

     

     

    Mr Pastry,

     

     

    Winning the ball doesn’t always mean a foul has been committed.

     

     

    But winning the ball first usually means no foul is given.

     

     

    99 times out of 100, when the ball is won first and no dangerous play is involved, a foul is not given.

     

     

    HH

  16. glendalystonsils on

    !!BADA BING!! on 29TH FEBRUARY 2016 5:19 PM

     

    It’s very rare an ex defender ,not to back up another defender ,when it is very obviously a clear decision,Craigan is a rat.

     

     

    Being a member of the huns union takes precedence over being a member of the defenders union.

  17. MAIDENBHOY on 29TH FEBRUARY 2016 4:50 PM

     

    They are not Huns on the wind-up. They have there own reasons, it might be blind loyalty, it might be that they believe he can turn it around, that he deserves five years or some other reason. It is all about opinions. For me as I have already posted and you reference the points I made, I am one of those that think it is time for change. However, I do not believe now is the time, there are only a few games left. Perhaps though we should take a leaf out of Man. City’s Book and announce there will be a change for next Season but as Ronny is under Contract and unlikely to decide to go it will not happen.

     

    We must get behind Ronny and the Team for the time being.

     

    Keep the Faith!

     

    Hail Hail!

  18. mr pastry

     

    does that mean the “dougie dougie” penalty shouldv been a penalty?

     

    goalie got to ball first then wiped hooper out!

  19. eddieinkirkmichael on

    Dubaibhoy-Ur they still deid? on 29th February 2016 5:04 pm – What difference does it make whether we played in Europe prior to a defeat that season. Are squad is big enough to cope and with our resources our second team should wipe the floor with any other team in Scotland or at least that is what we are led to believe from some posters on here.

     

     

    BTW I left out the glorious cup runs that season where we were put to the sword by both Morton and Aberdeen at Celtic Park.

  20. eddieinkirkmichael on

    kevinlasvegas on 29th February 2016 5:18 pm – It wasn’t personal mate just showing some posts from Lenny’s time questioning his ability etc.

  21. glendalystonsils on

    BSR

     

     

    Stop showin’ aff.

     

     

    Ma computer’s wan o’ thae coal powered jobs that cannae dae fancy black writin’ :))

     

     

    Apple CSC

  22. TET-McDonald had the brass neck to keep Stokes away from the resulting drop ball,so DU could clear it up the park,there was 2 clear penalties in the incident.

  23. I think we all agree that Scottish football would benefit from a huge dollop of honesty.

     

     

    Yet we have a Celtic manager being honest after the game based on a replay he saw from an angle that suggested a foul had happened.

     

     

    A couple of days later based on more looks at the incident and a still frame I put to Celtic SLO on Twitter well after game finished that took ten runs to isolate, the manager is honest enough to say he got it wrong.

     

     

    Only in Scotland is such honesty criticised,even by Celtic supporters.

     

     

    Is it any wonder the game is corrupt?

  24. Eddieinkirkmichael,

     

     

    Don’t you think that that SFTB’s post this morning was a little unfair on Tommy Burns given the activities being conducted at Ibrox and elsewhere during Tommy’s tenure?

  25. 16 roads - Celtic über alles... on

    Propaganda and lies.

     

     

    Like the Communist/Marxist faction on here – they see themselves as Chairmen or Ministers – not ploughing the field like old Boxer, or working in the salt mines – that’s for the peasants and the proletariat – they are the thinkers, that’s beneath them – they’d be living like Fidel Castro, in the lap of luxury.

     

     

    The manual labour, the graft, the real work is for everyone else.

     

     

    Ivory towers bs.

     

     

    Same as your corrupt politicians – preaching diversity and multiculturalism – you can bet your life that those rats aren’t living alongside the hordes of immigrants from medieval cultures – nah, they be living in their plush houses, in gated communities with armed security guards – as far away from diversity and multiculturalism as is physically possible.

     

     

    Ivory towers bs.

     

     

    Don’t believe the tripe.

  26. Auldheid

     

    There is honesty and throwing your player under the bus, all he had to do was a Wenger.

     

    The truth as you see it can often get you into bother, and it sure has alienated RD with much of the support, he committed a cardinal sin in my and many others opinion, you defend your players in public whether you believe them to be at fault or not.

     

    Just my opinion mind.

     

    HH

  27. eddieinkirkmichael on

    lennon’s passion hated by the clique on 29th February 2016 4:53 pm – For me it just proves that some of our fans are a bunch of greetin faced weans, who spit the dummy at the slightest set back.

  28. Auldheid

     

     

    There is a big difference between being honest and being naive to the point where it’s bordering on negligence.

  29. eddieinkirkmichael

     

     

     

    lol. I was like what is that? Have I been hacked? ;)

     

     

    Yeah no to Lenny for me as well.

     

     

    I think we need a bit of stability and experience in the dugout after Neil and Ronnie.

     

     

     

     

     

    KLV