TITLE: When the good guys play the work-shies
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 4/25/2008 12:23:00 PM
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BODY:
On Sunday Rangers play only their third away game in the league since February (when they last collected all three points on the road) in what is correctly being described as a league decider. Their away form in the league leaves little doubt as to why they are so reluctant to do a honest day’s work in the time allocated.
The good guys have an opportunity to open up a five point gap at the top of the table. The work-shies have games in hand, but nothing in football is more important than points in the bag. Rangers have eight confirmed games remaining this season, six of which are away from home and all of which will be played under enormous pressure if Celtic win on Sunday.
I have several concerns about Sunday many of which will melt away if I see Barry Robson and Paul Hartley playing central midfield. These two won the physical battle 9 days ago and have the experience to cope with this kind of fixture.
The good guys are about to write a page in our history, they will never know a greater honour.
Labels: Match Preview
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:25
COMMENT-BODY:We're the good guys - and the devil doesn't even have the best tunes.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:25
COMMENT-BODY:Cleek Him In The Hum 'n' Haws
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: inkybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:25
COMMENT-BODY:Hail, hail
Mon the Hoops
STANDING UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:26
COMMENT-BODY:A bird in the bush is worth two in the hand.
NestyCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:27
COMMENT-BODY:I thought I recognised that tall guy in a different strip to the others for Fiorentina. He was chatting to Cousin and Hemdani at the end. Frey, I think his name was. Did he come on at the end of the game?
STANDING UP
(For: Us. Against: against anti-football)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: St-Gris
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:28
COMMENT-BODY:Spot on Paul.
1) Its a league decider
2) Hartley & Robson must play if fit
3) Crowd must be vocal but above all patient and understanding.
It took us 93 mins last time to collect the 3 points - it may need the same this time.
Get behind the bhoys ALL GAME
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:29
COMMENT-BODY:Two points clear, having played three games more.
Perfect
We have them in our sights and will hunt them down like dogs.
DBBIA/BobtheNailerCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:32
COMMENT-BODY:Quick post and back to lurking.
DBBIA the mighty blues tomorrow?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:37
COMMENT-BODY:Lord for tomorrow and its needs
I do not pray
Keep me, my God, from stain of sin
Just for today
But if thine eyes should sweep Parkhead
This fine Sunday
Give us a barraload of goals
Like McGrory
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: blantyretim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:38
COMMENT-BODY:It's now really kicking in that I will miss the game on Sunday.
My nephew makes his first communion..12.00 mass. second half in the boozer i hope..
They are nackered so we must run them into the ground and destroy their confidence.....
HAIL HAIL Keep the faith
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TerryO'Neill
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:39
COMMENT-BODY:I expect us to impose our game on theirs.
I expect us to be be fitter.
I expect us to concentrate ,relax and compete.
I expect positive to overcome negative.
I expect victory.
Eliminate the Negative
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BigSwee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:43
COMMENT-BODY:Been away all week and been really busy so not seen too much to be affected in the usual manner.
Starting to get that buzz now.
Agree re the midfield. Any word on Hinkel?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:44
COMMENT-BODY:Paul, I agree Hartley and Robson must play together. I also think Brown would be devastating as a substitute. It is clear that Rangers are tired and that they have a depleted squad so Brown's energy could terrorise them if he was introduced late on against their tired midfield. Samaras could also be used in the same way and between them I think they could cause a lot of problems.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Battered Bunnet
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:48
COMMENT-BODY:It crossed my mind that, with the state of the Rangers pitch, a little bit of unforeseen wet weather, or an errant groundsman for that matter, could conceivable cause one of Rangers' few remaining home games to be postponed.
In which case...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:52
COMMENT-BODY:GL2- I don't know- away to Millwall.
If only Carlisle could be in the same shape as Carla, I'd be a happier mhan.
This is not the time to lose form,but an away win is not beyond them.
Spread the word, keep the faith.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:53
COMMENT-BODY:WG... Cheers not been in it either... Why is it in me head...?
Re: Sunday... looking back at our stats today...
JVOH has been booked 6 times... 5 since Samaras came...Interesting since i have gave him a hard time...not on here more with mates in NL... I have looked on him as a lightweight...yet most bookings were in Crunch Games...
Statistics who looks at them...?
1.Sarkozy...
2.Putin...
3.Presscot...
o1bhoy
3inArow
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulster-Celt
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:56
COMMENT-BODY:spl champions 11/05/08
Ulster-Celt
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: possilbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:56
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA ,
thanks for your help yesterday.
As for Sunday, you're spot on with the "hunt them down like dogs".
We must extract the blood without waiting for a sniff of it. They don't like this kind of thing.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: lurgan53
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 12:58
COMMENT-BODY:One Star Means More - from last thread.
Are we against Transvestites now?
For goodness sake!! Nothing sacred anymore!!
Reminds me of a bit of grafetti which appeared on a wall some years back.
"Equal rights for grils!" (incorrect spelling)
"Grils" was scored out and replaced with "Girls"
Some wag adds "What about us Grils then?"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:02
COMMENT-BODY:The deafening silence from other SPL member clubs in favour of a league extension surely says it all......do any of these clubs have any sympathy with rangers plight?
St Mirren players away on holidays.
Dundee Utd pointing out financial aspects of the thursday game.
Celtic may have players away on international duty.
Aberdeen may not have many players left.
I'm sure Hibs, DU, A'deen M'well would rather face a tired rangers side and stand a greater chance of picking up the points!
Why would they want to help scotlands shame? Would you want to?
Rangers have done zilch \ nada \ nil for us on our Seville run and as was pointed out in archived media articles...we were told just to get on with it and quit moaning!
Won't suprise me if theyt're still pressing for further extension even they have havn't 'asked for one'........Paul you hearing any runmblings of strings being pulled for further favours to them......
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: AbMucker
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:06
COMMENT-BODY:Lurgan 53,
Nothing like a bit of toilet humour...
DBBIA
I thank you once again for brightening up my Friday with your links to these intellectual sites.
Mucker
Standing up ....ahem
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:10
COMMENT-BODY:01bhoy -
you may have passed it on the way to Carfin Grotto or on the way to Hugh Dallas's windaes
SameDifferenceCSC
dontbratt -
" You're incorrigible "
" What does incorrigible mean ?"
" It means you want to be treated as a man. "
ClimbEveryMountainCSC, Salzburg
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:10
COMMENT-BODY:Lurgan53 - I think we should be against TVs if it means a section of the Rangers support would then feel compelled to wear blonde wigs, padded bras and sing "We are the Girly Girls"!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:11
COMMENT-BODY:ClimbEveryTVTransmitterCSC, Salsburgh
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Martin42
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:16
COMMENT-BODY:Winningemmell,
Had that Hymn "Lord For Tomorrow And Its Needs" sung as a Post Communion solo at my wedding 17th August 1966.
Wonderful memories indeed,
Thanks,
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:16
COMMENT-BODY: We are some of the Craigneuk Ghirls
We are some of The Ghirls
Now we all know our manners
And how to spend your tanners
We are some of The Ghirls
And as we go walking daintily through the streets of The Neuk
Doors and other things open wide - open wide
We can hear the polis shout
Comin round the roundabout
We are some of The Ghirls.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:19
COMMENT-BODY:OK...I'm gonna say it...
I think ...IF...tfodarkerness get through on Thursday they will... To a Point... Practically throw the League...
A euro finale OK it's only mancland but they Will have their minds on that...
Manager...coaches...players...sugar even Le bounci bounci...
So I've said it...as you can see i believe football is 95% in the head...
So Hammer them Sunday... if they sneek through...3inArow
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the devil plays 4-5-1
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:20
COMMENT-BODY:They say in football, no game is more exhausting than when you are camped in chasing the ball. No coincidence rankers have a lot of injuries and knackered players then.
We need something on Sunday which has not been in much evidence under WGS - come oot the traps like rabid dugs!!
lets go for them from the off and watch them wilt!!
HAIL HAIL
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:20
COMMENT-BODY:Incorrigible? Moi?
If it would help Paul67 out with his workload I'm more than happy to post a link, say every 100 posts or so, to keep excellent CQNers up to date with Mme Sarkozy's busy but interesting life.
Which I'm pretty sure has not, so far, included a trip to the delights of Salsburgh.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:22
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA:
I went out with a lassie very much like Mme Sarkozy once but it didn't work out.
She had nae conversation!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:22
COMMENT-BODY:WG/Martin 42
I loved that hymn and still think of it frequently even though we never sing it these days.
I like the line: "Let me no wrong or idle word unthinking say. Let me be kind in word and deed, just for today."
It's a good motto for CQN and for life.
Nevertheless, Martin, "help me to mortify my flesh, just for today" must have been an unusual choice for a wedding day, even in 1966.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:22
COMMENT-BODY:My beloved friends in Celtic,
In the year of Rangers resuscitation 2008 we have been witness to a litany of subterfuge
Ah ah
Something ain't right
It is therefore imperative that Celtic Park on Sunday morning reeks of CL atmosphere. Everybody either get in bed early on Saturday night or do not go home on Saturday night.
I'm gonna get myself
I'm gonna get myself
I'm gonna get myself connected
They might well manage a very sneaky draw so its important that we celebrate Celtic and being Celtic fans.
I ain't gonna go blind
For the light which is reflected
I see thru you
I see thru you
I see thru you
I see thru you
Ya dirty tricks
Ya make me sick
I see thru you
I see thru you
Its an absolute must that we scare the living daylights out of them at a time in the day and week when CP is not normally associated with CL atmosphere. Smell the glove and New excuses. Celebrate not being them I beg you. Remember last Wednesday and how they clung on. Penalties, red cards, lashing out etc. We need a confident repeat.
I'm gonna do it again
I'm gonna do it again
Ah ah
I'm gonna do it again
Gotta do right
'Cause something ain't right
Gotta do right
Come on
If you make sure you're connected
The writing's on the wall
But if your mind's neglected
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
So as Franny from Travis would say sing sing sing.
The game on Sunday will also play a big part in their UC return leg performance on Thursday. Deflated I hope is how they will be described.
Ah ah
Ain't gonna go blind
I see thru you
I see thru you
I'm gonna get myself
I'm gonna get myself
I'm gonna get myself connected
I ain't gonna go blind
For the light that is reflected
Hear me out
Can ya hear me out
Can ya hear me out
Do it again
Do it again
Do it again
Do it again
I wanna do it again
I wanna do it again
I wanna do it again
Ya terrified
Ain't gonna go blind
Ain't gonna go blind
Here we go
Who knows how it will go but if they lose the next two games then ... maybe it will be three :-)
If you make sure you're connected
The writing's on the wall
But if your mind's neglected
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
Hear me out
Stumble you might fall
Wouldn´t it be great if it was left to Ally Mc Coist to do the post match interview at Hampden after we had been crowned 3inarow Champions.
Interstate 5
Stayin' alive
Won't someone try
Open up your eyes
You must be blind
If you can't see
The gaping hole
Called reality
Wanna do it again
I gonna gonna do it again
I wanna do it again
Come on
I'm gonna do it again
Hear me out
Terrified
Something ain't right
Here we go
If you make sure you're connected
The writing's on the wall
But if your mind's neglected
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:26
COMMENT-BODY:WG...
It might have been where i took my Instructions...only kiddin...
o1bhoy
dopriestslurkhereCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:27
COMMENT-BODY:St Gris, well said.
PjDali, there will be no further extensions of the league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: porridgeandbananas
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:31
COMMENT-BODY:I see that having Scottish referees in their back pocket isn't enough, their now intent on taking over Europe!
Masons and the EU
I'm just worried that I'm feeling too confident about Sunday. I'm not one for being overly confident about a Glasgow derby but I can't see past us winning on Sunday after watching them last night and knowing that their best player (by a long long way) will miss the game.
Hopefully Sunday will work out fine. Go to game, celebrate and get smashed, then home to watch LOST which returns on Sunday night! If not swap celebrate for drowning my sorrows!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:34
COMMENT-BODY:Question...
Who were the first club in the World to have a DUG-OUT...?
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: porridgeandbananas
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:35
COMMENT-BODY:o1bhoy
Was it not Aberdeen?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Cadizzy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:36
COMMENT-BODY:Re Monsieur Sarkozy
"He also accepted "part of the responsibility" for having pushed his private life into the public eye. His intentionally public whirlwind courtship and marriage to the ex-super model Carla Bruni caused his poll ratings to nose-dive in France"
Wouldn't you flaunt her too? DBBIA doeas and he's never even met the wee lassie
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Martin42
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:39
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic First,
That line apart, the hymn is beautiful and meaningful.
It was one of the highlights of a wonderful wedding day.
One of the other highlights was my speech which lasted all of 32 SECONDs, and that was including standing up and sitting dowm time as well.
Looks like I am still STANDING UP,
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:41
COMMENT-BODY:porridgeandbananas... Correct Amoondo...
Invented by Trainer Donald Colman in the 1930s...
You would of thought his name would be Doug...?
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:44
COMMENT-BODY:Porridgeandbananas;
would agree we should approach this with a sense of real determination and unfaltering will to win and play Robson\ Hartley as a middle pairing with Brown as fresh legs in the 2nd half but they will also see this as the league clincher and will probably use every means legal or otherwise on the field of play to gain an advanage knowing the big prize!!
If ever I wanted to peak for 4 games and bag solid wins it's now......to heap all the pressure back onto them. If they cope with it and come out on top...then they deserve the title.
Never believed we still stood a chance of SPL glory after Ibrox and then M'well winning......but it's still there if we can grasp the nettle!
Starting to belief now that the gers bubble is indeed slowly deflating....but it sadly aint burst YET!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:44
COMMENT-BODY:the huns were knackered and crap last night
with the exception of wee bazza that is the best team they can muster....with one further exception ...their POTY is out that means Dailly and Weir at the centre of defence ...if Still Game did football???
lastly the reason that the huns have games to play is their inability to beat Hibs and Thistle in the SC at the first time of asking and their postponement of the Gretna fixture to allow them max time to prepare for the humping from Lyon
No excuses Celtic .....this mob are rotten and must be put in their place
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: whitedoghunch
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:45
COMMENT-BODY:Anybody going to the St Marys charity do tonight ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:47
COMMENT-BODY:Question...
Who holds the UK Record for an Unbeaten run in Professional Football...?
Games...Date..Year...Please...
porrigeandbananas... Disqualified...name2longViolation...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pastyface
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:50
COMMENT-BODY:pfyar
no weir either isn't it. Didn't the red and the yellow card take him over his points total?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:56
COMMENT-BODY:The longest unbeaten run in World Fotball is 108 games for Ivory Coast wizards Adsec Abidjan, between 1989 and 1994.
I think the British record may be Forest, under Brian Clough.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:56
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA
At the end of the season CQN Bloggers Awards, I am going to nominate you for the "Best Blogger that is obsessed with a Politician's Missus Award" I think you are a shoo-in for the award.
Just heard terrible news on TALKsport Radio, the Huns are coming down to the midlands for a preseason game with Tamworth, they are getting closer to Warwick. The Huns get all the glamour games. Poor Tamworth, saying that I once took my narrowbhoat through Tamworth a few years ago and a kid on the bridge over the canal tried to spit on me, I hope the huns behave like their abnormal selves.
Idon'tholdgrudges CSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:57
COMMENT-BODY:Question...
The Name "Ibrox" Stems from an Old Gaelic Word which Means What...?
o1bhoy
thismustbeawindupCSC...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:58
COMMENT-BODY:PS that is if my name doesn't get me disqualified.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:59
COMMENT-BODY:Brood of Vipers
er......
Place of the Badgers
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 13:59
COMMENT-BODY:Halitosis Hill
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:00
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA...
Not the MON Mentor...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:00
COMMENT-BODY:Midden; orc-infested stank; the place of impetiginised inbred intolerant imbeciles.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:02
COMMENT-BODY:Wattie's anti-football being found out
*warning contains bad language*
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:02
COMMENT-BODY:Hades
White Fart Lane
Old Brafford
The Place Of The Skull ?
Lilliput
The Abyss
Port William
Little Big Horns
Megiddo
Darnelville
Harthall
Larkhill
Um Ah close ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:03
COMMENT-BODY:Tamworth - where they make Reliant Robins. Could be handy of weary Dave does his hamstrings.
Anyways, I am not obsessed; just taking a healthy interest in current affairs.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Lardo66
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:05
COMMENT-BODY:Hi folks, just up, nightshift, and just received a worrying text. (not about a family member) Don't want to go into details but those of you who pray please say one for the sick and those of you who don't please blow together to chase this particular cloud away.
Lardo
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:07
COMMENT-BODY:pastyface
Weir was suspended for the SC game against St Johnston...violent conduct dismissal means suspension for the next domestic game regards of the competition
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:08
COMMENT-BODY:WG...yoo skunk...no pun intended...
Question...
Who at the age of 17 became the Worlds Youngest ever First-Team Football Captain...
o1bhoy
Anyone who answers Roga Milla... will face a 2 question ban...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Terrymac
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:12
COMMENT-BODY:Unfortunately I won't be at my beloved Celtic Park on Sunday due to holiday commitments.
I will however be watching the game at 7.30am in the Lucky Leprechaun on International Drive, Orlando.
If any other CQNers happen to be in the Lucky L. for the game please introduce yourselves.
Depending on the result, I might still be there at midnight!
Hail! Hail!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:12
COMMENT-BODY:Extensiongate part 12 - SOME HISTORY
Back in 2003 we were forced to play the huns less than 72 hours after the UEFA semi with Boavista. This because we were told by Gold and Blair that this game was not to be a title decider AT ALL COSTS, with much being made of police opinions. This also presented a convenient opportunity to rake up some good Dallasgate Celtic hooligan copy.
I will leave aside the question of what would happen should a Celtic-Rankers cup final arise [in fact it did the previous month!] and the farcical situation, where you have the only entertainment business on the planet actively trying to make its product less exciting.
I note that when the dates for the two Celtic-Rankers games at Parkhead were finalyl announced, the SPL made a statement to the effect that they were not concerned about either of these matches being a title decider.
This example of bias was actually even more transparent and demonstrably prejudiced than we are currently witnessing with Extensiongate [which is still pretty transparent nonetheless].
Consider the SPL criteria in season 2002/3 to decide the champions in the event of two teams having the same points tally -
1. Goal Difference
2. Higher number of goals scored
3. A play-off at a neutral venue
Now let's consider FIFA and UEFA's criteria for the same scenario in the Champions Leage and World Cup qualifiers at that time -
1.Goal difference
2. Higher number of goals scored
3. Head to head record of the teams concerned
4. Play off at a neutral venue.
Spot the difference?
It is enlightening to consider the head to head record between Celtic and Rankers in season 2002/3
Celtic P4 W2 D1 L1 F8 A7 PTS 7
Huns P4 W1 D1 L2 F7 A7 PTS 5
FIFA and UEFA's criteria clearly weren't good enough for our pub league.
A more blatant example of favouritism you couldn't find yet this was not mentioned at all in the media.
The same media who are using us bringing a fixture forward [i.e. opposite of putting fixtures back thereby extending the season, for the benefit of Leckie & co.!] as a "precedent" to justify the present shenanigans.
A legal team could tear this mob to shreds if we could ever get it to a courtroom.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:13
COMMENT-BODY:pastyface
you may be correct with the suspension on accumulated points
i had understood that they take effect 2 games after the threshold has been breached
therefore not until next league game after our one
no matter he looks bushed and very slow
IMO Samaras to play against Dad`s army ...straight running at them ...don`t think they`ll fancy it
and without ugly betty they will be significantly less proficient in the air
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:13
COMMENT-BODY:Video of the Huns training at the Home of the Badgers
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:13
COMMENT-BODY:Hopefully Hartley & Robson will start, and be able to win the heart of the Midfield again. I'm a bit worried that there's been too much made of Robson's 'statement of intent' in the first minute. The MIB will be watching for similar and would probably hammer him for it this time.
Also, Fergushun and Thomshun will come out and try to show that we don't own them. Obviously they're allowed to 'impose' themselves on our players with impunity.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:18
COMMENT-BODY:o1bhoy,
Was it Ray "Butch" Wilkins at Chelsea?
I think his older brother also played for the team at the time, but I can't remember his first name.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:20
COMMENT-BODY:stuart
Thomson is suspended
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pastyface
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:21
COMMENT-BODY:thanks pfayr
according to the beeb
Carlos Cuellar and Kevin Thomson are suspended for Rangers, although Barry Ferguson is available after being banned from midweek Uefa Cup action.
Six members of the first-team squad are missing through injury.
Goalkeeper Allan McGregor, midfielders Charlie Adam, Lee McCulloch, DaMarcus Beasley and Chris Burke, plus striker Steven Naismith, are ruled out.
Agree on Weir, actually the whole team. Last night they were devoid of leadership and ideas.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:26
COMMENT-BODY:thanks pfayr,
You've enhanced my afternoon, my good man. Who do you think they'll play instead? Hemdani? You rate him?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:27
COMMENT-BODY:Answer...IPOX...Place of the Badgers...
Answer...Longest Professional Unbeaten run...?
SeanSouth...Has just contacted via Satelite Web-Cam Ipod-Fone...To convey He Knows the Correct Team and Who they Beat... also will Forward Match Reports In English Aribic AND Tamirin...But... ... ...
Will Not Divulge until After TFOD game when everybody is in Bed...
Wonnabet...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: thismancraig
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:27
COMMENT-BODY:Tony Bananas
That is a particular issue of mine and one I think which is relevant in a competition such as Scotland where the head to head matches carry such importance.
As recently as last year Real Madrid won La Liga due to their superior head to head in the classico despite having scored less goals and having an inferior goal difference.
No great conspiracy of course as MON knew the rules but there's no harm in seeking an improvement. So, basically we need to beat them 3-0 on Sunday :-).
Suits me!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:31
COMMENT-BODY:Gordonj...
Closer to Home...?
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:34
COMMENT-BODY:stuart
Hemdani is a welcome addition if he plays as he did last night ...however he can be good
he didn`t really look interested last night ....long may it continue
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:36
COMMENT-BODY:Here we are, still together
We are one...
So much time, wasted,
Playing games with love
So many tears I've cried
So much pain inside
But baby it ain't over 'til it's over
So many years we've tried
To keep our love alive
But baby it ain't over 'til it's over
How many times
Did we give up
But we always worked things out
And all my doubts and fears
Kept me wondering, yeahhh
If I'd always, always be in love
So many tears I've cried
So much pain inside
But baby it ain't over 'til it's over
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:37
COMMENT-BODY:PjDali@13.02
TFOD did zilch to help us on our Seville run so why should we help them?
Not only did they not help us they offered training facilities and spy dossiers to our opponents for the ..em... good of Scottish football.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:38
COMMENT-BODY:So have the rules been 'enhanced' to incorporate the 'better head to head record' this year?
Personally speaking I think that it should be:
1) points
2) goal difference
3) alphabetic order of club name ;-)
Also, since this season has been a shambles, next season's games should be cancelled. I'd happily be second to Aberdeen, as Rangers would be relegated (Somone quickly rename St Mirren to Paisley United)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheLeftWinger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:52
COMMENT-BODY:This will be more apt, ironically, 'tomorrow'
I see you falling
how long to go before you hit the ground
You keep on screaming
Don't you see me here.. am I a ghost to you?
Now your grips too strong
You can't catch love with a net or a gun
Gotta keep faith that your path will change
Gotta keep faith that your luck will change tomorrow
tomorrow,
tomorrow
Why are you phoning
What am I to do when you're miles away
You're always calling
From the darkest rooms... and we're both scared
Now your grips too strong
You can't catch love with a net or a gun
Gotta keep faith that your path will change
Gotta keep faith that your luck will change
Now your grips too strong
Can't catch love with a net or a gun
Gotta keep faith that your path will change
Gotta keep faith that your luck will change,
Tomorrow..
I'm just out of your range
tomorrow
all your suffering's in vain
tomorrow
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 14:59
COMMENT-BODY:CELIC HOLD THE UK RECORD FOR A UNBEATEN RUN IN PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL-62 GAMES FROM NOV.13.1915 UNTIL APRIL.21.1917...
o1bhoy
62inArow...
Youngest Ever First-Team Captain at 17...
Gary Gillespie...And the Team was young too... The Bairns...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Malcolm
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:01
COMMENT-BODY:Off topic, kinda... has anyone seen the "Glasgow Colours" documentary currently showing on ESPN Classic, Sky 442? It really shows the hypocracy and mentality of "the Peepul"... there's one scene where Steven, hun pub landlord and his mother are being interviewed, and she is bleating on about how "we're no bigots, naw, no us..." the somebody in the background shouts something at him, and replies... his mother gives him a slap and he says "He shouted at me, the Fen...Bas...." - priceless.
Naw, you're no bigots at all...
Well worth watching, educational.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:09
COMMENT-BODY:Here's a scenario.
Poland, Holland & Greece insist on having some of their key players available for their warm-up friendlies.
We refuse to play Dundee Utd outwith the official season.
Hissy fits all round, Celtic serve notice of intention to quit the league, begin lobbying EPL for access, and considering a plan for Atlantic leagues.
Worst comes to worst, we could joing a lower league in England and work our way up. I know this isn't a trivial undertaking, but do you think that the Celtic Support could propel the club up through the various divisions, or would they stop going until we made the EPL? Frankly, we'd have more money in the Championship, and could give the FA Cup a real go for a European spot each year.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:10
COMMENT-BODY:sadly malcolm I fear there's nothing educational watching theses knuckle dragging morons make fools of themselves on TV.....i know what you mean to see it laid bare for what it is.....but reckon your wording suggests we can learn from them....yeap maybe learn that the snip is maybe good for some and the gene pool!
I've known enough bitter twisted biggots on both sides of the religious divide to last me a life time......and seeing these morons on TV makes me cringe.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Madra Rua
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:12
COMMENT-BODY:I know we have the biggest game of the year coming up on Sunday, but, circa 3pm, as we celebrate in our local hosteleries, ask your friendly barman to put on Sky Sports, where you can then roar on the mighty men from Munster as they rip throught the dastardly English, Saracens.
It would be an even better weekend if London Irish can defeat the Gallic, Toulouse, tomorrow night.
Munster v London Irish in the European Rugby cup Final and the huns put to the sword;
It is for weekends like this that sport was invented.
Bring it on !!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: danny
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:13
COMMENT-BODY:The final league game takes place before the Scottish Cup Final.
Assuming all players would have been available for it then they'll be available for the Dundee Unt game.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dylan
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:14
COMMENT-BODY:Hi everyone, the question was asked how do we beat anti-football, one way requires three Celtic touches the first pass being a controlled chip from just outside the D to the flank of the penalty area where it's headed back across the face of the goal for either the Celtic strikers to finish off the move, or alternatively the orc's may put it out for a corner, our baw again, repeat this procedure till you get bored of scoring bhoys, what I hear you say, you can never get bored of scoring against der hun, good now just prove it.
for evidence of this set play check out big Jan's winner against them last time out, what's so great about that goal is how defenders must track and move with the flight of the ball, their eyes will be averted momentarily from our strikers as they begin moving towards the wing to close down the space, before they can fix their position it's then headed behind them into the gap they have just vacated where there is a good chance a Celtic player will be smashing the baw intae the net.
PS, Hemdani like Weir has a huge blind spot so stick close to them cause I think forced errors will also get us goals.
Paul thank's for this place it's amazing, to remember how we coped when all we had was the fourth estate for Celtic information.
Hail Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the long wait is over
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:28
COMMENT-BODY:Stuart
14.38
Wouldnt that just hand the league to
Absolutely Awful R.F.C.?
TLWIO
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:28
COMMENT-BODY:Madra Rua
The last time Munster won the Heineken Cup against Biarritz in Cardiff i was in Smyths in Limerick
It was amazing
so good luck to the stags
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: wolfietone
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:29
COMMENT-BODY:Good Afternoon all, long time reader, first time posting. I will be watching the game in London with some friends. Unfortunately since the demise of the glorious Hoops Bar near the Oval I have yet to find a decent pub with a great atmosphere and a bit of singing. Anyone have any suggestions.
I have heard that O Donohues at Sheperds Bush is OK Anyone Been there?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Madra Rua
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:30
COMMENT-BODY:Good on you Spirit, you know what I'm talking about so.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: lurgan53
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:34
COMMENT-BODY:Dylan,
For me it has to be speed. Speed of thought and pass. Their anti football is more effective if we undertake the slow build up which has been evident a lot this season.
I love watching Naka. You can see him looking where he wants to put the ball just before he receives a pass. He is two passes ahead of most others..
C'mon the Hoops.
Speed! Strength! Skill!!Conviction! Belief!
Support!!!
Starting to sound like Billy Graham here.
Brothers and Sisters!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:35
COMMENT-BODY:Here is a wee song (chorus and third verse) for someone I don't like, Ally McCoist ;-
With apologies to Frankie Valli - yeaeeeeahhhh!!!
My Eyes Abhorred You
My eyes abhorred you
Though I never laid a hand on you
My eyes abhorred you
Like a million miles away from me
You couldn't see how
I abhorred you
So close, so close and yet so far
Headed for Sunderland lights
Climbed the ladder down to fortune and shame
Worked your metatarsals to the bone
Hardly got a game
Funny how I seem to find
That no matter how the years unwind
Still I reminisce
Bout the sitters you missed
And the size of your behind
My eyes.......
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: danny
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:39
COMMENT-BODY:lurgan53
Agree on the need for speed. The teams they have played at home in Europe have largely gone for the slow build-up which has resulted in no goals.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:41
COMMENT-BODY:Wg
The big cousin is away for more drink and said you are a ****T but enjoyed your company yesterday.
AL
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:42
COMMENT-BODY:Another wee turn for a musical Friday afternoon- a big hand for the Lady on the Piano
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:49
COMMENT-BODY:TLWIO,
Absolutely Awful Animals Anti-Football Club?
Just to be safe
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Didas sore face
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:58
COMMENT-BODY:Predictions for Sunday
Celtic 3 R*****s 0
JVOH 5
Barry R 23
Skippy 78
What are the odds?
C'mon The Hoops!!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dylan
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 15:58
COMMENT-BODY:Good afternoon Lurgan sir, workrate and tempo are important as are all the other qualities you mention, but control and intent are the ones that will win Celtic the league,
those three Celtic touches I mentioned are a quicker and more energy efficient way to get big stookey defender's turning. What say you ?
Hail Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:06
COMMENT-BODY:o1bhoy @13.34
Question...
Who were the first club in the World to have a DUG-OUT...?
Was it Blackburn ROVERS?
Wolves?
Leeds?
MK Dogs?
Colliechester?
Rochairedale?
The manager was:
Terrier Venables
Dave Bassett Hound
Borzoi Johnson
Lee Sharpei
Andy Greyhound
Saint Bernard Slavin
Samoyed Lee
Shikoku Nakamura
Wei(paul)mariner
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: lurgan53
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:09
COMMENT-BODY:Dylan
Amen to that Brother!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:19
COMMENT-BODY:SFTB- Johan Crufts, to manage the chain-smoking beagles?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:25
COMMENT-BODY:dbbia
Is that an Eagles tribute band
Desperado (for a fag)
Ol' (holburn) 55
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:29
COMMENT-BODY:No, more like the Capstan and Tenille.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:33
COMMENT-BODY:Or Woody Woodbinesy's U-boat
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:33
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA
What are Carlisle chances tomorrow for I will be putting my football lines shortly. They were the only one that let me down on a 7 team line. I thought they were a cert against Southend at home.
SFTB
you forgot the Merseyside dug team - Liverpoodle managed Ruff Benitez
I'll grab my coat
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:34
COMMENT-BODY:porridgeandbananas
Try this for a Masonic conspiracy story.
http://tinyurl.com/4s89s3
Warning: like most such sites it has some apparently interesting facts that have probably not been verified and is peppered with hokum, in my opinion.
However, any time anyone wants to hear my theories on Freemasonry, please invite me to let rip.
I've known a couple of good guy masons and I'm sure there are a few here but it's decidedly not my cup of tea.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:36
COMMENT-BODY:Or Shirley Embassy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:48
COMMENT-BODY:Dylan, you are very welcome.
Welcome wolfietone.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:48
COMMENT-BODY:For the Kerrang CSC Smokers
David Lee Rothmans
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:58
COMMENT-BODY:Elvis Castella
Sad Cafe Creme
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 16:59
COMMENT-BODY:Arthur Lee -
aye, we had a good drink yesterday so I was feeling a bit Richard Guff earlier; chokin fur a pint right now, roll on 19:15 when badass is on the bell
WeeGargle
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: jimtim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:00
COMMENT-BODY:paul you have mail on your about page
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:00
COMMENT-BODY:George Benson & Hedges
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BigSwee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:01
COMMENT-BODY:TSOAL
Many of the pubs in Limerick offer good memories and many more of which I have none despite knowing I was there for the evening.
I love the place.
The feel good factor in the city after the Rugby was indeed a sight to behold.
Watched Celtic win the treble over there in Tims bar.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:08
COMMENT-BODY:Season 1978-79 Revisited
April 25
Celtic 2 St Mirren 1
Darling Buds:-
Latchford, McGrain, Lynch, Aitken, Edvaldsson, MacLeod:
Provan, Conroy, Davidson, Burns, Doyle.
Huddies:-
Thomson, Young, Munro, Fitzpatrick, Dunlop, Copland;
Weir, Torrance, Bone, Abercrombie, The Blessed Squig.
Att - 18,000
0-1 The Blessed Squig (24)
0-1 HT
1-1 Shugmeister (75)
2-1 The Bear (88)
So close to doom but the Bhoys remain in the hunt for the title.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:09
COMMENT-BODY:NarrowBT- I discussed this earlier with GL2- they have come off the boil at exactly the wrong time. Against Southend they got level only to have a player sent off and lose a very late goal.
They really need a win tomorrow- why not, against the soft Southerners of Millwall.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:10
COMMENT-BODY:Big Swee
I have stayed in the Old quarter lodge in Denmark street about three times not good if you enjoy your sleep but if you like to drink and party there is no better place.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:20
COMMENT-BODY:Best Smokers Album Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake by the The Small Faces
Root-de-doo-de-doo Root-de-doot-de die day CSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:20
COMMENT-BODY:Arthur Lee -
Ah'll lodge ye, you'll be drinkin in Girdwoods wi NAFOS next
WoodsofGird
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:21
COMMENT-BODY:Football Could at last win something on Monday night if Stoke fail to win Tomorrow and West Brom...YES... Beat Southampton...
I will STAND UP FOR BIG MOGGA...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the long wait is over
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:22
COMMENT-BODY:Stuart 15.49
It does have a certain ring to it , I'll give you that !
Winningemmell
Hope you dont mind a bit of sycophancy but practically everyone of your posts makes me laugh.
Heres hoping for Sunday -- got to be our day.
I just fear well get kicked off the park as I think THEY'LL think that given a couple of our challenges early doors last time they'll have licence to do what they like.
No Cuellar and no McGregor should be enough for us to do them and really open the league back up.
TLWIO
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:22
COMMENT-BODY:narrowbhoat -
Ah don't doubt it !!!
Ah'll get ma smokin' jaickit....
AlanStubbsCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:25
COMMENT-BODY:100% proof that the Devil has the best choons
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:29
COMMENT-BODY:TLWIO -
glad to be of service, amigo
I normally get told I'm as funny as the toothache
WalliesGemmell
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:29
COMMENT-BODY:o1bhoy
Stoke is a cert to beat Colchester, they will be one of my bankers tomorrow. remember Adam Virgo still plays for them
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:34
COMMENT-BODY:WorthyGrandmaster
How is your own Lodgin business doing these days
Sofa so Good CSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 17:46
COMMENT-BODY:NarrowBhoatTim...
I would'nt like to be DRAWN on that one...
Says the Dude who told the world to Bet 0-0 and Hammered Mutu at the Bell...
o1bhoy
isadamvirgoacigaretteCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:00
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic TV showing Good guys v mankies Sept 2006.
T Graveson just scored his 1st for us and by all accounts he'd a very decent game.
Tis a shame the guys playing style \ methods aren't what we hoped for, cos I really liked the guys energy and he did seem to enjoy playing for us but his performances went from bad to worse at times and well he's prob had his chance.......still onwards and upwards......we've another derby game on sunday to win.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: brigtonbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:00
COMMENT-BODY:Pride
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:08
COMMENT-BODY:PjDali...
Re; Graveson same as you imagined big things for him... Me i would have gave him the Armband...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Lardo66
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:19
COMMENT-BODY:Enjoyed lurking today in the grey, daysleeper light of the computer room. Posted earlier re worrying text and, having now read most of this week's blogs I am now aware that this has already been touched upon and is hopefully a story for another day in the far future.
As for Sunday, and in relation to last week's game, I feel quite confident that, if we play the same team we will get a result. Having watched reruns of the last game safe in the knowledge that we won I could come out from behind the sofa and properly analyse. We were never really in danger of losing, just not winning if you get my drift. We can certainly breach an aging back line and fairly immobile midfield. I fancy Aiden to be right up for it as long as he keeps his tongue inside his mouth. Novo will foul him repeatedly if he starts on their right. Two nights left and four hours sleep before kick off on Sunday. Late afternoon happy haze anyone?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dublincelt
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:22
COMMENT-BODY:test
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Martin42
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:26
COMMENT-BODY:Winningemmell,
I posted at 13.16 in answer to your 12.37 post.
If you missed it go look it up and thanks for memories of a wonderful day.
Martin.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:27
COMMENT-BODY:01bhoy;
Might have given him some addedresponsibility but i suspect his type of play and lack of discipline in his allotted position meant his trust was used up very quickly under WGS. Maybe 2nd time around with better midfielders round about him he might become the guy we hoped.....but then again where's me pills....
I once seen on T'internet a fantastic picture of him with the rain streaming down and he looked illuminated...think it was taken at Ipox....he looked manacing!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:29
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA
You right about the Devil having the best Choons
One of my late Dad's favourite but maybe not this version.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Benny Cake
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:36
COMMENT-BODY:I fully expect the tfod to besmirch Paradise with a banner in response to "Scotland's Shame".
The question is, how low will they stoop? (Can they get any lower?)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 18:58
COMMENT-BODY:Sir Paul
This Submission is actually an Admission.( Whit?...ed)(Haud yer wheesht... It is, it is, so...so?...)
It was after reading a very perspicacious and illuminatingly informative piece,from your good self... that Hauled me,in the nick of time, .... back...from the edge of Abyss of Despair.....( Where wus ah When awe this wus going on?...ed)( Sh! This is whit ye ca'...Rhetoric,pal...)( Rhetoric? We used tae call it .. Bull Pucky!)
As you weel remember, at that dark period of my life, I had perilously fallen within a Midge's Overcoat.. into the dreaded realm... of Apostasy... and had even gone as far as discarding the markedly, Pusillanimous... Terry Towelling, to boot...( To Boot?....ed)( Don't ask!... but everyboady says it!)
(Noo, comes the explanatory explanation....)
What was the information that was contained in your Piece, that Switched my headlong rush into Despondency and Dejection, to the Path that has led me to my present attitude of Hope and Confidence?
Your current contribution, contains the answer to that question...
Thanks, pal...
(That's it?...ed)( That's it!)
Kojo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: jimtim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:09
COMMENT-BODY:edward. if you are lurking. do you fancy going up to aberdour to the golf day , meet a few of the names , and have a wee dram with the bhoys . i am sure they would all be pleased to see you . let me know and i will pick you up, and take you home again .
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:16
COMMENT-BODY:The Times tells it like it is in their report on last night's game, with the following marks for players.
5 Neil Alexander
6 Kirk Broadfoot
5 David Weir
5 Carlos Cuéllar
6 Sasa Papac
5 Brahim Hemdani
5 Nacho Novo
4 Christian Dailly
6 Steven Davis
4 Steven Whittaker
5 Jean-Claude Darcheville
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:19
COMMENT-BODY:PS The marks are out of 100 :)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:23
COMMENT-BODY:NarrowBT- a finer group of young men you couldn't hope to meet. A far cry from the long-haired, pinko soapdodgin' scruffs who pollute the airways these days.
Listening to the' Bob Dylan Radio Hour ' CDs- great stuff.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dharma Bam
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:26
COMMENT-BODY:Evenin' all
here's a good example from Roddy Rorsyth of how to neutralise and trivialise
I seem to remember it was "Nakamura eat my dog"
DarnTheHairWeCare!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dharma Bam
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:28
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA
I wish they had been able to include some of his Bobness'between song banter
DarnTheHairWeCare!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:31
COMMENT-BODY:dharma bam,
far more serious is the story that the SPFA paid Frank Carson to "entertain" at their bash:
"This year's affair, held in Glasgow on Sunday, featured the veteran Northern Irish comic, Frank Carson, whose faux pas apropos Neil Lennon - 'I know he's here - I can smell the Semtex' - was greeted with a tumbleweed silence.
"Fortunately for Carson, there were enough guests over the age of 40 to raise a scattered cackle at his most up-to-date joke, about the beggar with a sign which reads 'Falklands War Veteran', who responds to a donation with the words, 'Muchas gracias, Senor.'
"The word in the hall was that Carson's music hall routine - including a selection of Paddy jokes - earned him a tasty £12,000."
Questions should be asked of Fraser Wishart - if he isn't too busy commentating on Rangers games.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Benny Cake
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:35
COMMENT-BODY:Bloke109
Can we safely assume a good +3 each in the D Ranker then?
With an 8 for Ferguson for good measure? :~D
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dharma Bam
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:35
COMMENT-BODY:Gordon_J
I read about that one. It was just a baffling attempt at humour by someone exetremely out of touch.
Glad to hear it was a tumbleweed moment.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:35
COMMENT-BODY:Dbbia
Don't tell Wg or he will tell Robyn to hijack more of Mr Zimmerman's songs
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:36
COMMENT-BODY:I was clearing out mail today and came across this from SDTIM who had sent a post from TontineTim. I will post it in smaller sections as blogger did not liek it first time.
30/11/07 22:05, TontineTim said…
Gordon Strachan spoke frankly about the championship win last season, "I would have loved to have seen far better football." He also complained about "someone in the media" for highlighting an unflattering defensive record away from home.
Listened tae Snyde recently with Ned Flanders rabbiting on about how due to our abysmal away defensive record we would have to score at least two goals to ensure victory, when was it ever different; however a comment that Graeme Spiers made got me thinking, he said that too much emphasis was being put on our away record as most of the games involved happened last season and yet we still ran away with the League.
Celtic from its inception have always been an entertaining side, as we all know we won our first game 5-2 against a lowly Kinning Park side and only seven years later we recorded our highest victory to date 11-0 against Dundee following that up a year later 9-2 against our local rivals fae Barrowfield.
In fact our first captain was regarded even back then as an attacking centre half and actually played at centre forward for the national side.
Some of our legendary performances have involved free flowing attacking football:
• On April 15, 1916, we were forced to play two games on the last day of the season, which we did winning the first 6-0 at Parkheid against Raith with a 3:15 k.o. going straight tae the former Dalzell Estate for a tea time kick off, ironically the home team would prove to be as much our adversary in future years as the evil ones, which we also won 3-1, setting a new record for most goals in a season.
• The Patsy Gallacher Final, which we reached after a memorable 5-0 victory over the Govan side at Hampden, where the wee Donegal genius, in his last cup final and Jimmy McGrory's first incidentally, with seven minutes left and the Beano publisher's side leading 1-0 took a pass from Peter Wilson and waltzed past man after man before the big jam eating full back pulled him down in the box, before the cry "penalty" had left the Tims lips Patsy somersaulted with the ball gripped tight between his feet and landed in the back of the net.
As we would see more than 60 years later in the Centenary Final in which his grandson starred by the way, urged on by the Peerless Patsy the Bhoys didn't settle for a replay and in the closing minutes James Edward heidered the winner.
• Another of our great escapes involved a Cup Final against one of the finest Steelmen sides in their history, a side that would win the Championship the following season and contained the legendary Wullie MacFadyen whose his 52 league goals for the championship winning side remains the record goals total for a single season in Scottish League history, he also topped the scoring charts again the following season, netting 45 times.
We were behind 2-0 with eight minutes to go, the homing pigeons were already ML1 bound, singing da doo ron ron, with attached messages telling the locals the cup would be arriving shortly when James Edward pulled one back, it looked like too little too late and with just seconds to go a hopeful cross was floated into the 'well box, the keeper had it covered until the alleged cry "ma baw" went up, as he let it go the unfortunate centre half Craig nodded it intae his own net.
In the replay we won 4-2, two classic games with ten goals scored.
• In the historic game at Dens Park where apparently if we did not win we would be relegated, instead of backs to the wall and hoping for a breakaway tactics which was alien to us we won coming back from 1-2 to a cultured marmalade side to clinch victory in the dying seconds 3-2, although Jock Weir was the hero with a hat-trick the saviours that day were Bobby Evans, who throughout his career at Celtic Park personified the "play tae the final minute and even more", and big John McPhail who incidentally had two early goals chalked off, for their all out attacking play.
• In the early 50's Clyde had to win to avoid relegation, the Celts were booed from the park by the home support after we won 1-0, WE were the home side as the game was played at Parkheid
• Several years later in the final match of the season, a game which meant nothing to us, the visiting and at that time current League holders needed a win and a home loss for the huns against the sheep, at half time the jambos were one up while the huns were still tied 0-0, 45 minutes later and TFOD are champs even though they lost 0-1 as we came back and defeated the Calvinists thanks tae goals fae a young Bertie Auld and Eric Smith.
• Even in defeat we still played the only way we knew how, the Celtic way, the greatest manager this country has known knew that which is why his Pars side absorbed wave after wave of Celtic attack in the Cup Final and replay and then hit us on the break, twice.
The Celtic side that night had contained five internationals, with five of the other six being capped later on and four players, who were future European Cup winners.
• The following season we were cheered from the park with a lap of honour after losing 1-3 to a Real Madrid side that contained di Stefano, Puskas, Santmaria and Gento, we even had a disputed goal knocked off which would have made it 2-3 and the way we had played who knows what would have happened, for that night it was all about the performance, as Bartholomew Dick sung:
"We don't care if we win lose or draw,
Darn the hair do we care,
For we only know that there's going to be a show,
And the Glasgow Celtic will be there".
Unfortunately we did care and although we continued playing some fabulous fitba we invariably flattered to deceive, how can you explain going tae Love Street on a Monday night and gubbin them 5-0 yet five days later slumping 1-3 tae the same side at the D-Day Dodgers Social Club:
The morning of that game the media were salivating at the prospect of a final between us and the Ancell Babes. A side similar to us with some terrific players including internationals Charlie Aitken, Bert McCann, Pat Quinn and the Saint, yet just like us still underachievers. As it was they lost also that day to the Buddies Paisley Road neighbors, ironically on the same day as the final we gubbed them 4-0 at Fir Park.
All this fine play however was winning us nothing and reached its culmination on April 29, 1964, our final game of that season, when we went to Budapest in the semis of a ECWC with a 3-0 lead from the first leg, and lost 0-4.
The response from the Celtic boardroom amidst much warranted criticism for failing to defend a three goal lead in a major European Semi was that Celtic did not know the meaning of defensive football; it was not "the Glasgow Celtic way".
Despondent though we were little did we know what lay ahead exactly 364 days later when in the final minute against the Pars, who had been in the Championship race that season along with the embra and ayrshire brithers but slipped up near the end while chasing the double so the Cup was their last chance of a trophy, visibly wilting after being ahead twice, Big Billy, at that time uncharacteristically up for a corner, rose tae a Charlie Gallacher cross and grown men shed tears of joy, and yet true tae form we lost 1-5 tae the same mob four days later.
Now let's be quite clear about this, our misty eyed memories indicate that when the Big Mhan returned it was all magical, far from it, we were still an inconsistent side.
Although we won his first game back the very next day 6-0 at Broomfield we struggled after that and lost five and tied one of our following eight games.
Yes we won the Scottish but it was oul Jimmy who had got us to the semis, a game in which we were fortunate to tie 2-2 with our old adversary from Steelopolis coming back fae two Joe McBride goals with wee Ten Thirty tying it up with a penalty.
In the replay on an unseasonable sunny end of March night we trounced them 3-0 with a John Hughes inspired victory, so here we were in the Final and happy just tae be there and League losses like 2-6 at Brockville as bad as they were didnae faze us too much at that time.
I often wonder where we would have been had we lost that Final as two days after the League loss tae the Pars we faced the huns in the Glasgow Cup at Celtic Park winning 2-1 and eleven days later the GC joined the Scottish in the Parkhead boardroom, we were trophy winners at last and not from corners or the toss of a coin.
That summer as I recall we were bursting with pride waiting for August to roll round and even though we had lost 76 goals while scoring 133 in all competitions that previous season, Jock signed only one player, no not a defender but journeyman centre forward, Joe McBride.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:37
COMMENT-BODY:Season 1965/66 started off badly and we lost two of our first three League Cup games but managed tae bounce back tae win our section, we even lost the first hun game, however it should be noted that Jock left out Joe for this match readily admitting his mistake later.
The catalyst for me that led tae the Big Cup and our own NIAR was not the Scottish Cup win that April but a victory on October 23rd when we got the monkey off our back and beat the darnel in a major Cup Final.
After that we were now singing:
"We don't care what the animals say,
What the hell do we care,
For we only know that there's gonnae be a show,
And the Glasgow Celtic will be there".
That side had three changes from the April side but one of the most notable was the Faither in goal.
As Jock built his historical record breaking side out also from the "Celtic Celtic that's the team for me" team went veterans Jim Kennedy, Johnny Divers who contributed to our great achievement of being first with NIAR by scoring the initial goal of that period away against the Arabs after our dismal League Cup start, Ian Young, and John Hughes.
He also bought one more player, Wispy another forward, this was at a time when Joe was still fit, meanwhile we still had three potential all time top goal scorers on our books.
Defensive repairs were made internally, with Caesar adding an edge to his play and wee Luggie progressing from an ordinary wing half tae the fulcrum of the defence, we had evolved from a Scottish team to a European one and were now playing 4-2-4, which with our personnel and attacking style had the ability to switch to 3-3-4 and as was demonstrated in Lisbon 2-4-4.
• And the never say die trait continued with memorable games like the League Cup semi against the Hibbees at the coven where a Bobby Lennox goal in injury time would earn us a replay which we won 4-0.
• The final home game of the season against Morton who had tied 3-3 with the huns on the Wednesday night to give us the chance of retaining our title. We're now in injury time and it's 1-1 when down the main stand side wing went big Tam and over intae the crowded box comes the ball tae be bundled home by the Buzz Bomb, cue bedlam at Parkheid and despair down in Knights Templar country as they exit Rugby Park cheering at the early news the Tims had dropped a point.
• The Hibs and Dunfermline games where we clawed back goals tae win in injury time, with Joe contributing six of them.
• Big Billy again replicating his Pars goal with a last minute winner against the best team IMHO we had met in Europe up till then Vojvodina.
• Hibernian again at Hampden 6-2, 6-1 and 6-3 – "Dixie Deans Superstar, how many goals have you scored so far".
• Even after we suffered our biggest Cup Final defeat in my lifetime against the Maryhill Magyars, a game we could have actually won in the second half but for the immaturity of our young forwards Skip tae ma Lou and the King in front of goal, Jock's response was to sign Dixie Deans who was actually in the middle of a long suspension for indiscipline, four weeks later in his debut we went tae Firhill and thumped them 5-1.
The Celtic way continued on even after the Big Mhan left:
• Thrilling European victories against Real, Sporting and Ajax away.
• The Davie Provan Cup Final.
• Love Street on the Albert Kidd day.
• And especially during the Centennial season where we doddy said "most teams are in the bath while Celtic are still playing", that coming fae a rabid hun tae says it all.
The common factor in all of the above is that we Celtic played as we always have, even with mediocre players, to win.
While the huns were renowned for their dour aye ready cromwell style, we as Big Billy once said were the Cavaliers.
They have the likes of speedie, meiklejohn, cox, woodburn, symon, young, baird shearer, greig etc as their past heroes.
We have "Sniper" Joe Cassidy, Tommy McInally, Patsy Gallacher, Johnny Crum, Charles Patrick, Bobby Collins, Bertie Auld, Jinky, Big Tam, Dixie, Charlie Nick, Macca, Henke, Lubo, the big Hunskelper and Thommo and who could forget the Three Amigos, talented but also gallus. I could have added another talented and gallus striker but he sold his soul tae don the black mass vestments.
Some may question Henke but he had it in spades, cunning, deadly and tough as nails just ask betty konterman, colin hendry and gus mcpherson.
We have had an abundance of great strikers and players that I've missed out such as the Mighty Quinn, Jimmy Delaney, John and Billy McPhail, the Buzz Bomb, Stevie Chalmers and the original Bear as well as "James McGrory and Paul McStay, Murdoch……. and Hay", Brian McClair, Frank McGarvey and George McCluskey, however I'm concentrating not just on talent but that great Celtic trait, cheek.
In all my travels I've never came across a cheekier culture than the Scottish and Irish, and that's what makes us different from the dour Aye Readys, well it did until MON came on the scene.
Now this is not a MON bashing session and I do recognise that we played some exciting stuff during his reign battling tae victory with late goals fae the Road Runner, Big Dolph, Joos, the Hunskelper and Thommo and not forgetting the King of Kings, but then again so did the huns during the 60's and 90's.
I'm also forever grateful to him for giving us back our self-respect, I was going tae say dignity but that would involve wearing brown brogues and sitting in the best seats in the pictures, but and this is a big but, there was a cost.
Watching the Brady and Burns sides was like a throw back tae oul Jimmy's teams, lots of talent but nae guidance, especially when Jock left for the Pars. So when WTT gave us our pride back and the oul Doctor had us playing with a style and verve not seen by a Celtic side in years with a bit of grit at the back fae Stubbsie and Dolph it looked as if we would retain our title as we were scoring for fun, six 5 goal games, one 6 and a memorable 7-1 away tae Harri Kampman's side, that is until the yellow cards and injuries took their toll.
The poor Doctor also suffered humiliation from the meeja and didn't return for the next season and so we were left with the Bardal fiasco. March 26, 2000 a day to forget, humphed 0-4 going on 10 at the midden.
That summer as I was coming out of Mass, I had just returned fae a trip to Varadero, I bumped intae a Tim I knew. "What have you heard about a Manager" he asked, "well according tae the CNN Spanish it looks like Guus Hiddink", "hmm, my contact is saying Martin O'Neill" he replied.
I must admit that I wasn't truly enthralled especially after he was seemingly going tae bring Matt Elliot with him, Leicester O'Celtic I thought.
He then went out and signed a Chelsea reject who was in trouble for allegedly spitting on a customer in a restaurant, Oh God I thought we've just signed our own version of the Geordie nutter, further signings such as a Bolton reject with a disciplinary problem and who had just been red carded in an Inter-Toto gemme didnae really fill me with optimism.
That soon disappeared after our opener up at Tannadice with the big Hunskelper opening his account. At this point I thought I don't care how we play as long as we can get some trophies on board and end this hun domination, I was willing tae prostitute my ideals for some success.
We next went tae swinecastle and won convincingly and then came the 6-2 gemme and it was starting to look good now.
Our first domestic reverse exactly eight months after the humiliation at the same stadium, even though we were without Lambo and Stubbsie, initially caused me some doubt but when MON went straight out and signed Lenny and "Ramon the Treble" as he called him then I knew it was just a blimp and the rest is history, we were a big intimidating side who could also play a bit, our only concern was we had an ultra cautious manager, which was to cost us dearly, not just in trophies, but also in "playing football the Glasgow Celtic Way".
As we all know the first two seasons were magical and even though we can look at the Seville season and the amount of favours they received if we look closely enough we had more than our share of single goal victories, that IMHO is what cost us the League.
The proof in the pudding for me is when MON said that summer he knew how and why we didn't win any trophies and that would be sorted, the following season after a poor start at East End Park we started racking up the victories with goal scoring reminiscent of the good Doctor's season only this time we won the Championship in glorious fashion scoring 105 goals and losing only 25, the following season we continued where we left off, alas we were Henke lite and the pattern of season 2002/03 returned.
In the pursuit of success we did indeed lose our way and paid the price with "Black Sunday"
Now, we are back trying to play the game as Wullie Maley and the Big Mhan envisioned it, however, old habits die hard and there was and still is a price to pay.
Nevertheless for every Broadwood and snotterwell there's a Caledonian Stadium and a swinecastle, for every Bratislava, Donetsk and Copenhagen there's a Benfica, Manure, Spartak, Milan and now a Shakhtar.
Paul you inadvertently opened up the can of proverbial worms when you leaked the info about our away non clean sheets, as a support in the past we never worried about that and frankly while it's nice not to lose a goal I would rather watch a 5-3 victory over the lowly Spiders than 1-0 against the huns, eh lets rephrase that, a 1-0 victory over any team except the huns as any win against them is heavenly and none more so than:
"And then in 1957;
We faced a guy called Georgie Niven;
The game is etched on every Celtic fan,
Wilson, Mochan and McPhail;
And Willie Fernie scored as well;
As Celtic beat the Rangers 7-1"
So here in the silence of the night as we wait another dreaded away game, let's not forget:
"And they gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay;
They gave us Johnstone, Tully, Murdoch, Auld and Hay;
And most of the football greats;
Have passed through Parkhead's gates;
All to play football the Glasgow Celtic way"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:41
COMMENT-BODY:A couple of questions.
I cant rememeber Aiden scoring against them am I correct. Aiden 5-1 gives you 155/1 with Corals.
Also when was the last time we came from behind to beat them?
GL2Abouttostart hisnightlytaxijob forthecubs
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:50
COMMENT-BODY:A propos of hee-haw, but on music, Cherry Ghost are quite good.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:51
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA
Are you listening to the Bob Dylan Radio Hour while sitting on your rocking chair on the porch whilst swigging from your little brown jug of Moonshine
Copperhead Road CSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dharma Bam
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:53
COMMENT-BODY:greenlion 2
Fantastic. I forgot how well we played under Jo Venglos - that season was a close run one.
I don't forget the wat he was treated by some of the press.
I am retiring now as I don't think you posts can be topped.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:58
COMMENT-BODY:dharma its not my work its from Tontine Tim. I only wish it was mine rather than the drivel I usually post.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheLeftWinger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 19:59
COMMENT-BODY:GL2,
Aiden scored the third(?) in a Celtic Park victory at least two home strips ago.
Right foot tap in under the keeper.
Gravesen also got an old fashioned 'goal-snatch' in the game currently on Celtic TV when Aiden's header was about to cross the line.
He's 16-1 to score first on Sunday. That's where my money is
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:03
COMMENT-BODY:tlw I still cant remember his goal, I remember Tommy G stealing his goal in that game.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:10
COMMENT-BODY:Beer drinking possums and Bambi the Jaikie. Brilliant.
More entertainment in that short clip than the Horribles have produced all season.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: daveinlondon
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:11
COMMENT-BODY:Wolfietone @ 15.29 today ....
Still there? I often watch matches in the Tavern in Somers Town, just by Euston; corner of Phoenix Rd. and Chalton St.. Yucatan up in Stoke Newington has also been good. Yes, Hoops Bar has been gone for some time now.
Hoping to be in one or the other this Sunday.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:17
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA
Just good ol'Country living, I believe that moonshine is quite powerful stuff, the guy in the clip is only 23 years old. Does it resembles Tesers Beer Garden.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ElDiegoBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:19
COMMENT-BODY:Paul
Hunt them down like like dogs.
Cheats. We all know it.
This is not about football.
This is about us against THEM.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:24
COMMENT-BODY:Wolfietone
If you go to Yucatans in Stoke Newington it is quite good. I went there a few years ago for a game. Across the street to the right is a corner Turkish Kebab restuarant at the front of the resturant they have a huge charcoal grill, they do the best Shish Kebabs ever. The restuarant is always busy and you can bring your own bottle of Buckie too.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:25
COMMENT-BODY:NarrowBT- it has an ambience that the Teser can only dream of.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: daveinlondon
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:26
COMMENT-BODY:Buckie in Stoke Newington? In N16? Shurely not.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: daveinlondon
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:26
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:28
COMMENT-BODY:"Now hear this Robert Zimmerman, I've wrote a song for you 'bout a strange young man called Dylan with a voice like sand and glue" he says get right intae them!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:31
COMMENT-BODY:DaveinLondon
It was alright it was Halal Buckie made by Immans in Devon.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Benny Cake
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:34
COMMENT-BODY:Greenlion
Cheers for that, and cheers to Tontinetim for the penmanship.
Initially daunted by the length of the post, I nearly scrolled past.
A worthy read.
The Celtic Way this Sunday to commence their humiliating implosion.
Our one trophy this season will be so much sweeter than their two secondary ones.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Hoople
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:35
COMMENT-BODY:Chaps.
Can you please stop referring to poor displays of football, players, songs,whatever,as "mince".
I love mince.
Mince and tatties.
Lasagne.
Chili con carne.
And the quintessential Scottish meal....
A mince roll.
Thanking you in advance.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: daveinlondon
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:35
COMMENT-BODY:Narrowboat -- close enough to be plausible. Anyway, time for a couple of London Prides.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: EdwardUrsus
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:37
COMMENT-BODY:JimTim :- Thanks for that offer but I wouldn't be able to make it that dat due to family commitments that week. Once again thanks but for the above reason I have to decline.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:38
COMMENT-BODY:what a hat trick
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TuttiFruttiTractionHoose
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:39
COMMENT-BODY:Long time lurker not posted in ages. Looking for a wee bitty advice, where can I watch the game on Sunday in Bangkok. I am going to be by the Khao San Road in Banglamphoo. I realise many CQNers may be able to point me in the right direction being such a cosmo diaspora.
Cheers Tutti
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:41
COMMENT-BODY:Daveinlondon
That is a good as cue as any to go for a pint too. No Possum or bambi is going to drink out of my pint of Barnsley Bitter.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Lennondinho18
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:41
COMMENT-BODY:Edward Shun
whats this new song all about the Rangers fans are singing
I heard it last week at celtic park and have now been shown all the words
The famines over so now go home
absolutely shocking
prob the worst song of the last 10 years
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:42
COMMENT-BODY:it's on Copeland road tortured brow adam's sisters grown up a cow, and now the Rankers have struck for fame, wee Lennon's come home again, see the gers and their million hoards, from Larkhall to the Norfolk Broads, Rule Brittania'll be sung on Sunday by the scum, the dogs and clowns as i ask you to focus on Celtic beating up the Rankers, Oh man look at those cave men go, they are the freakest show, take a look at the unwashed in the Rankers end, smelly and racist too, we're in the freakiest show, it the Rankers game!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: daveinlondon
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:43
COMMENT-BODY:Cheers!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:47
COMMENT-BODY:Benjy
should that be sung the same as a song by Mr David Robert Jones?
Love
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:48
COMMENT-BODY:Benjy,
alles nicht so Hunky Dory ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 20:58
COMMENT-BODY:benjy............Brillaint ! Can't find the first song from HD, but thanks for sharing my bestest, favouritist Bowie song of all time........
Life On Mars
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:00
COMMENT-BODY:And we can be Heroes just for one day, I, I wish we will win, like champions, like champions win, and the SHAME fell on the other side, and we can beat them, for ever and ever, and we can be heroes just for one day......
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:00
COMMENT-BODY:And we can be Heroes just for one day, I, I wish we will win, like champions, like champions win, and the SHAME fell on the other side, and we can beat them, for ever and ever, and we can be heroes just for one day......
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:05
COMMENT-BODY:scary monsters and super creeps, we've got them running, running scared.....
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TontineTim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:06
COMMENT-BODY:Thanks Greenlion for reposting that, forgot about that one, it was written when I was off the don revie tae, just shows how eloquent I can be with a clear mind.
Away for another glass of chardonay now.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:11
COMMENT-BODY:Heaven loves ya
The clouds part for ya
Nothing stands in your way
When you're a bhoy
Clothes always fit ya
Life is a pop of the cherry
When you're a bhoy
When you're a bhoy
You can wear your hoopyform
When you're a bhoy
Other bhoys check you out
You get a ghirl
These are your favourite things
When you're a bhoy
Bhoys
Bhoys
Bhoys keep winning
Bhoys always work it out
Uncage the colours
Unfurl the flag
Luck just kissed you hello :-)
When you're a bhoy
They'll never clone ya
You're always first on the line
When you're a bhoy
When you're a bhoy
You can buy a home of your own
When you're a bhoy
Learn to drive and everything
You'll get your share
When you're a bhoy
Bhoys
Bhoys
Bhoys keep swinging
Bhoys always work it out
WHIteDUkeCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: McManus69
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:14
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67,
Seemingly Smith moaning to the newspapers today about the fixtures and also missles in the direction of the SSM, after the TV guys left. Expect the rags will be dancing to their beat tomorrow...nothing new....maybe a good time to highlight some of their remarts from the Seville season..
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:25
COMMENT-BODY:let me put my arms around your head (Watty to Bazza) gee it's hot let's go to bed, don't forget to turn out the lights, don't cry Bazza it'll be alright, pour my out another phone, I'll ring and see if Moonbeam's home, perhaps the strange one's in the dark (Findlay)will lend us a title we only but dream and try to get it on like once before, when hunnites stared at sad Watty's eyes and cried "why can we no be like the tims?"...........
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: McManus69
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:26
COMMENT-BODY:Bitter Smith trying to fire up his running on enpty players. Timing says it all.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/scotland/article3818959.ece
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:26
COMMENT-BODY:GL2, TontineTim, our friend Archie MacPherson, friend and biographer of Jock Stein, spoke to me about that League Cup final. He and Jock both agreed with your assessment of the importance of that victory.
GL2, could you send me a link to that original post from TT?
EDB, “hunt them down”, can there be any other way?
McManus69, he is a ned and a bully and not worthy of your attention.
And a loser.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: loumacarisbettingslip
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:27
COMMENT-BODY:walter ned from govan mocking our SSM in the TIMES even goes as far as lampooning the SSM sporting integrity statement,then blames the spl for them having to play US knowing they had a semi final to play
I think walter ned is being economical with the truth
waltersporkies csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:36
COMMENT-BODY:Me, I hope that I'm crazy
I feel you driving and you're only the wheel
Slow down, let someone love you
Ohh, I've never touched you since I started to feel
If there's nothing to hide me
Then you've never seen me hanging naked and wired
Somebody lied, but I say it's hip
To be alive
Now your smile is spreading thin
Seems you're trying not to lose
Since I'm not supposed to grin
All you've got to do is win
that's all ya gotta do)
(ooh, it ain't over)
Me, I'm fresh on your pages
Secret thinker sometimes listening aloud
Life lies dumb on its heroes
Wear your wound with honor, make someone proud
Someone like you should not be allowed
To start any fires
(that's all ya gotta do)
(ohh, it ain't over)
(thats all ya gotta do, ohh)
All you've got to do is win
(it ain't over)
When your smile is spreading thin
(seek and believe in you)
Since you're trying not to lose
(it ain't over, no, no)
Since I'm not supposed to grin
(that's all ya gotta do)
All you've got to do is win
(it ain't over, no)
(seek and believe in you)
All you've got to do is win
it ain't over, no, no)
Wo-ohh, all you've got
Is all you've got
(it ain't over)
It ain't over...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: EdwardUrsus
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:38
COMMENT-BODY:Lennondhino18 :- I agree it's not the type of song or taunt I go for at all.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:41
COMMENT-BODY:Awe_Naw_No_Annon...
Amazing ... excellent and one of my all time favourites - as it says in the song .... all you've got to do is win!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:44
COMMENT-BODY:Lets laugh, laugh at the Rankers and dance the blues, lets laugh, laugh at the Moonbeam that big fat Moonbeam, and when we say Hun we mean Hun, ugly and vile and full of bile, because my love for celtic would break my heart in two, if we should win, under the floodlights our glorious floodlights.......
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: moonbeams wet dream
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:44
COMMENT-BODY:Burberry Cardigan, you remind me of a child, who without asking (yeah right) is offered a sweet as a treat only 2 cry because they want 2 sweets.
Grow up you sad, ungrateful excuse for a human being.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:46
COMMENT-BODY:Nothing cheers me up more than reading a fresh bleat from the cardigan. It lacks so much sustance that I am not even going to analyse his whinge.I just still hope that he is sounding the same on Sunday afternoon. A 1.0 win after scoring with a dubious penalty will do me nicely.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:51
COMMENT-BODY:billy connelly classsic
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: loumacarisbettingslip
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 21:57
COMMENT-BODY:walter loses his marbles
calls Peter Lawell "The chief executive of the sporting integrity committee" then goes on to say that Lawells "outburst"keeps reminding him of a monty python sketch
then says managers dont usually get involved in these matters,but it could result in me losing my job says walter trying to extract as much sympathy as he can haw haw haw
deadparrotsketch csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Fred C. Dobbs
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 22:03
COMMENT-BODY:Lay off Walter it can't be easy...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Spirit of Arthur Lee
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 22:05
COMMENT-BODY:skip to my loo for u
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 22:25
COMMENT-BODY:Is Walt bidding for a disrepute charge?
Naw, don't think so.
Sunday is shaping up for the mother of all battles.
Never known them to be so blatantly aggressive.
A time for cold, calculated, powerful football, without getting drawn into their disruptive tactics.
They will set out to disrupt our concentration and try and involve us in retaliation, thereby incurring the wrath of the man in the middle.
I feel our most important player could be Neil Lennon.
He knows how to play them.Cold and hard,like steel.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 22:26
COMMENT-BODY:Paul just back in and ive sent it over to you.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Benjy Bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 22:29
COMMENT-BODY:The game is almost upon us, death or glory? Man or mouse, hero or zero?
They are so dire, cumbersome and downright lucky that they surely must be due a doing sometime?
Wattie the tattie is I feel drinking at the last gasp saloon, WGS must get it right and remain brave no pandering to those that wish Bobo back in place of Caldwell, no Caddis (his time may come) and no Brown (his time WILL come). Bravehearts and cool minds is what we need.
hail hail!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Benjy Bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:25/04/08 22:30
COMMENT-BODY:The game is almost upon us, death or glory? Man or mouse, hero or zero?
They are so dire, cumbersome and downright lucky that they surely must be due a doing sometime?
Wattie the tattie is I feel drinking at the last gasp saloon, WGS must get it right and remain brave no pandering to those that wish Bobo back in place of Caldwell, no Caddis (his time may come) and no Brown (his time WILL come). Bravehearts and cool minds is what we need.
hail hail!
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TITLE: Crash against Aberdeen more than possible
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 4/19/2008 12:11:00 AM
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BODY:
Aberdeen have been good value recently. Since winning at Celtic Park they drew 1-1 at home to St Mirren, beat Inverness Caledonian Thistle 3-4 with a last minute goal, beat Falkirk to secure a top six place before that 4-3 reversal at Hampden against Queen of the South.
Turmoil behind the scenes might have something to do with the inconsistency. This week six players were told their contracts would not be renewed at the end of the season and Barry Nicholson told the club he would not accept their contract offer. I understand other senior players told manager, Jimmy Calderwood, what they thought of the club’s offer for next season in no uncertain terms.
Although they are a club in disarray they are also capable of raising their game when it suits and that is certain to be the case at Celtic Park today.
Celtic were at their best on Wednesday night, but the adrenalin crash after snatching an injury time winner against Milan in October, when goals in the final three minutes were required to win the points against Grenta, should be a concern.
We need to win every game and none will be easy.Labels: Match Preview
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TrueTim
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:13
COMMENT-BODY:McGregor out for season
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WizardofOz
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:21
COMMENT-BODY:Truetim
Better no' be a wind up. That's a massive blow for them if true.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: logger 'GG
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:21
COMMENT-BODY:Wave effect from Wednesday will carry us to victory.
'GG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:24
COMMENT-BODY:Pablo-That was magic,I always remember as a wee bhoy,my granny would sing "all around my hat" & my granda would sing "the foggy dew" at family reunions.Legends.Hail,Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WizardofOz
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:25
COMMENT-BODY:As much as I think McGregor is way overrated by the laptop loyal, he has been huge for the Huns this season and has undoubtedly won a few points for them. If he is out for the rest of the season, Smith will be in panic mode because Neil Alexander is nothing to write home about.
Is the luck finally running out for the Huns?
If so, couldn't have happened at a better time.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Domino
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:26
COMMENT-BODY:Aberdeen are in turmoil and we should be looking to hammer them and boost the GD.
I'm glad we are facing them tomorrow and not later in the season, possibly when they have sorted things out.
Frankly if we can't beat a team that ships 4 goals to QotS, we don't deserve to win the league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: EdwardUrsus
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:26
COMMENT-BODY:WinningGemmell :- From last thread.
It would just be shear coincidence of course that it just fell open at that date.
Would it by any chance also have fallen open at ant specific game? Was there one of notice that year :-)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: inkybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:26
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic can beat Aberdeen, they know they have to, and it's a momentum thing right now for the Hoops, a case of building some up in many ways.
Are the Aberdeen players going to be putting themselves in the shop window tomorrow as they don't have much to play for in terms of silver and many won't be playing for the manager, so Celtic just have to make sure they win.
I'd be more concerned about Aberdeen's last fixture of the season.
STANDING UP..so I'll sing a song of liberty
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TommyTwistsTommyTurns
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:28
COMMENT-BODY:Pablo/pfayr - thanks for that lads.
There are three reasons that I don't get into blog master debating :-
1) I'm snowed under with work and I don't know how some of the guys find the time to follow the blog, never mind get into long-running heated arguements;
2) I'm more comfortable with the spoken word than the written (engineering graduate who was ridiculously poor at english and probably still is);
3) I once called Kano a "cyber hard-fud" on here because of the aggresive nature of his posts! (believe me, you don't want to do that!).
The ex-pat lads get quite irate about things on here. I briefly met Kitalba in BB's last year - nice lad, but you get the feeling that he doesn't take prisoners!!
Gordon & WG are already proving tonight what I said earlier about learning stuff about the club and our history.
Ed - bearing in mind the fixture situation, coupled with injuries & suspensions, are you still as confident about the treble?
I'm also curious about something - pick one : a strong chance of a treble or a place in the UEFA Cup Final with the possibility of your first European trophy in 36 years?
You decide (in daft Geordie accent)!
TTTT
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ross Common
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:28
COMMENT-BODY:He has been a top player for them.But lets just win 5 out of 5 and lets see how the Huns(sorry edwardUrsus)Cope with the tension. RC , Mouldy67 ,Bull67 we would Love it just Love it if we beat them..................
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TrueTim
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:29
COMMENT-BODY:We will now be playing a team without McGregor and Cuellar - their best two players. Weir is now 1 booking away from a 3 match ban - he'll be walking a tightrope.
McCulloch will be out and Ferguson is clearly still carrting an injury.
Adam, though not a great player, hinders their options.
Its a late assualt towards the tile but certainly one thats gathering momentum.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:30
COMMENT-BODY:ssm et al -
Aha the mountain and molehill scenario !
I've thought of little else since Wednesday.
I've been working hard on The Project and got by the 1937-38 Season earlier this week :
25 December 1937
Scottish League
Celtic 8 Kilmarnock 0
5 March 1938
Scottish Cup
Celtic 1 Kilmarnock 2
Our history is littered with the implausible and not all good. A week or so after Good Shepherd Sunday, the Bad Shepherds return to The Dale of Kerry,The Field Of Dreams, The Garden of Eden. Complacency was the first sin therein and we've been toiling ever since.
They have nothing to lose. We have everything to lose. Fig leaves for starters.
Adam Kojo, how do you like dem apples ?
WG, treeofknowledgeCSC, Craigneuk.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:32
COMMENT-BODY:Sorry to be a pest, but, Mr Strachan, today, requested information from the SFA on, who in his team were cautioned after the final whistle of the
(glorious victory)glasgow derby.
The SFA have advise that Celtic have been informed officially.
This dispute is now being censored by setanta sports news, can anyone advise if its just setanta????
Oh can anyone tell me if theres a bookies that will give me odds on rev McCurry being in charge of the final glasgow derby game???
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TrueTim
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:34
COMMENT-BODY:Rangers team for next derby:
Neil Alexander
Kirk Broadfoot Weir Dailly Papac
Hemdani
Novo Davis Ferguson Thomson?
Cousin
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TrueTim
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:35
COMMENT-BODY:canamalar - I believe craig thomson will take charge, I good ref on what i've seen so far.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:38
COMMENT-BODY:Ed -
I also had a peek at 'It's Rangers For Me', some seriously flawed stuff in there.
This is true - whilst I was browsing the Davie Provan chapter a good friend of mine (Celtic-daft) came up to me and started nattering away. I'd have preferred if I'd been caught wi Arthur Lee's Larkhall Readers Wives anthology.....
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: EdwardUrsus
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:38
COMMENT-BODY:TTTT :- I'd have to pick the UEFA. With rare exceptions titles get sgared out roughly 50/60 so the title would come again but as you said, the first time in 36 years.
On whether we will take the treble I still have to say yes. Two first division teams in the cup and we still have the advantage in the league. What worries me most is the abcence of A. McGregor he has pulled us through a good couple of times. So maybe not as confident but still aprehensively confident :-)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Peat Blog
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:39
COMMENT-BODY:Truetim
I also believe that Kevin Thomson is suspended for the next league game.
Could be wrong, maybe someone else can confirm.
Peat
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:40
COMMENT-BODY:ed -
50/60 ?
Even your lot canny get away wi that..... then again, mibbes aye
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: EdwardUrsus
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:45
COMMENT-BODY:WinningGemmell :- I can only blame inebriated fingers :-)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:46
COMMENT-BODY:True Tim
They have options.
Could be
Alexander
Whittaker Weir Dailly Smith/Papac
Hemdani/Thompson
Novo Davis Ferguson Naismith
Darcheville
Still leaves them subs of Broadfoot, Burke, Buffel,Cousin, Webster (?) & Boyd plus whoever does not play from above pairs.
We need to get Aberdeen out of the way first but it will be another tough game when it comes about.
We've had McCurry's one sided heavy handed refereeing and Kenny Clark's liberal interpretation of what constitutes a foul. I think we'll be under discipline pressure again and our tackling will need to be hard but not as blatant as some were last weekend. That was what was needed then. Cool heads needed for the next one but Aberdeen first.
Lee Miller is our immediate danger.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:46
COMMENT-BODY:Thomson is definitely suspended for the next game at Celtic Park.
I predict this team for Rangers:
Alexander
Broadfoot Dailly Weir Papac
Hemdani
Whittaker Ferguson Hemdani Davis
Darcheville
Hemdani has been looking like a man who doesn't play regular football in recent European games, and Davis is no left-winger.
As much of a ned that he is, Novo causes us the same problems that Lovenkrands did. Should he come on or start, I expect Robson or Hartley to absolutely flatten him within 30 seconds.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:49
COMMENT-BODY:Craxa
You have Hemdani playing twice.
I think that takes him over the appearance limit and Rankers have to pay him extra. Also means that, if he gets sent off, he can stay on the pitch.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:50
COMMENT-BODY:sftb -
quick response appreciated
are you for BBs tomorrow ?
I may see or phone you regarding our convy in the Lud, plenty more evidence this week. take it you've clocked on ?
WG,Dial Square FC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:50
COMMENT-BODY:Haha, sftb, I just noticed that.
I meant to type Novo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TommyTwistsTommyTurns
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:51
COMMENT-BODY:WG - is that the 12th man being factored in by Ed?!
Ed - the reason I ask, is that most of your fellow fellowers would probably rather have the treble. A tad myopic IMHO.
I expected you to say the UEFA Cup because of your long-term exposure to Timdom via this great blog and our appreciation of the bigger picture! ;-)
Nite y'all
TTTThopingtomeettheBBcliqueCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:54
COMMENT-BODY:WG
I should be there.
I believed you were right then and there's more evidence tonight.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:55
COMMENT-BODY:sftb -
be in touch
nite all
LISBON, CORPUS CHRISTI
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kingoh
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:57
COMMENT-BODY:ed
Glad to see a bit of perspective.
I was beginning to think that majority of Ranger's fans wanted the league title the most.At least that's the impression they give.
I remember being gutted THAT day at Motherwell but nowhere near as gutted as walking out that stadium in Seville as I ,like you, thought that at least we will win the league again.I have no memory of euro finals and being in my 40's now realised there was a real chance I would never see my team lift a Euro trophy. I simply can't believe that any Ranger's fan sees the treble or indeed the league as more important than a Euro final.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Greenwells Glory
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 00:58
COMMENT-BODY:Edward One for the good guys I would gladly trade our position for yours. What do do think made the difference in our performance?
I actaully thought it was a great match and the nonsense at the end was pure theatre mind you I am glad to have beaten watty having another 12 Year odl Aberlour and an Innes and Gunn oak aged beer quite merry at the moment. Hope all is well with you and tat you are worried or the next game
The cannon no the canoncsc
Anulos qui animum ostendunt omnes gestemus!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Michael Collins
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:01
COMMENT-BODY:Стахановец
Much as I agree that Novo should be cemented early I think the ref whoever he is will be looking for this kind of challenge and we may, if we're not careful , end up down to 10 men very early in the game.
Please God an early goal today and spare us another brown trousers second half.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:04
COMMENT-BODY:Previous thread, re the flying of the swastika at Ibrox under the direction of the SFA.
"Vee ver only obeying orders", said Bill Struth.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:04
COMMENT-BODY:Craxa-Will we get into trouble if we sing "There's only 2 Hemdanis"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: southbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:06
COMMENT-BODY:Paul
A sense of caution is never a bad thing at such crucial times however I feel that the example you gave of Celtic's composure slipping after those tumultuous matches we won with so little to spare, could also be true of the Dons. Indeed Aberdeen found a fine scalp in dumping us from the cup but this was then their chance of competing in a cup final against Rangers if it all went as most expect it would. But the ultimate sucker punch was delivered by QOS in an extraordinary match you only see the likes of in Roy of the Rovers and I feel that this along with all matter of background shenanigans should present Celtic with the ideal opportunity to avenge that unfortunate night. Yes Celtic were at their best on wednesday night in that they added the final ingredient to their game, blood & guts, until then the footbal had been exquisite in places but no fight backed it up, this is in place now and it's a grand old thing to see.
I hope that aberdeen have only one game on their minds and it falls on May 18
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:06
COMMENT-BODY:Ross Common,
why are you apologising to Ed for the word hun, Ed is a hun, he is proud to support his team regardless of the history and has no problem with the connotations with said history. Ed has made his choice and that is his inalienable right to make. To back his club in its opresent reality is what he does, therefore, nothing less than hun can he be :o))
Ed am I wrong ?? :o))
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:10
COMMENT-BODY:Still can't believe this guy is no longer with us. Just goes to prove two things. Talent is given and only the good guys die young.
Jeff Healey
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:12
COMMENT-BODY:michael & sam:
I guess it is possible we will not get away with the kind of challenge Barry Robson announced to the world. All the same, we should try and wind him up. We have seen how much of a hot head that he is, a bit of ankle-biting, a shove or two, some words in his ear, and then all it will take will be one wee trick from Aiden and his two-footed lunges will come out, resulting in an early bath.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:17
COMMENT-BODY:I am quite happy to be shouted down, but the main reason that I (and others of far greater imagination and talent) post rarely is because of the naval-gazing self serving nature of the leading posts.
Paul and I have met on a number of occasions, and I have in the main agreed with his drift and thrust.
But over the last few months we have become an anti-rangers site and not a pro-Celtic medium.
Unfortunately Paul has decided to accept this baton and has run with it. And now that we have a wee glimmer of light in a universal season of bland opaqueness, now that we want a thousand supporters to to do what the word defines, and now that we want a million hearts to burst just once in the way that we demand the heart of each and every player should do, what do we get?
!Crash against Aberdeen more than possible'
If I had written for the red tops, I could have penned that and I would have been less than proud!
See you in BBs tomorrow. I'll be the one wearing the shirt that says 'Estadio 67' on it!
Hail Hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:18
COMMENT-BODY:Nothern Lights
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:18
COMMENT-BODY:Setanta, SPL tab, censored again, me and a few muckers have been watching the chanel waiting for the Celtic challange to the SFA's non-existant notice of post match cautions. still not newsworthy??
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: EdwardUrsus
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:24
COMMENT-BODY:GreenwellsGlory :- I'm not sure, we seemed to be second to the ball and Celtic seemed to want it more. For the first time in a long while we were outfought.
btw, won't you be embarrassed if your ring turns blue?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:30
COMMENT-BODY:Estadio, your's and WG's never-say-die attitude and self-belief in the team has shown me the other side of mine. I'm no mineshafter, but I see our failings and I expect (note, not want) them to be fulfilled. We all see things differently and perhaps Paul is trying to head them off at the pass, ie, he's trying to keep a wee bit of perspective before this place descends in to the risible "Ah tellt yeh........Naw yeh diddny" crap that lurks just around the corner in here at times.
Just my opining BTW and not in any way meant as a slight on your opinion of this site. The s**t that's thrown at the Ghuy beggers belief some times. Me, ah don't think I'd bother !
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ross Common
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:35
COMMENT-BODY:Canamalar
You are spot on . I have used that term many , many times and to me it just means a rangers fan. cant believe I am getting caught up in a PC world . Maybe it was too many Buds !!
HAIL HAIL
PS I think EU is one of the best Posters on this quality site run by Paul67.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: moonbeams wet dream
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:36
COMMENT-BODY:EdwardUrsus, the chap who told me the story also mentioned Scotlan v nazi germany at ibrox and the swazi flying but he was adamant that there was a game pre WW2 in Germany too. As I say most probably rubbish but the fact he mentioned the scot ger game seems to point to a poss truth as I thought both were pants stories.
Paul67, if the celts come out tomorrow and get any less than 3pts after Wednesday I would personally sack each and every single one of them.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:36
COMMENT-BODY:Ah remember when this place used tae be jumpin' on a Friday night ! WTF happened ???
Diamonds And Rust
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:41
COMMENT-BODY:Sandy Denny
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:41
COMMENT-BODY:Estadio-I posted @00:07,let's not get complacent because we beat huns on Wednesday.Paul,in his post,used more words,but imo meant the same thing.Not preparing for defeat.Au contraire,preparing for victory.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:46
COMMENT-BODY:Pablo,
As you probably have sussed, I am not into negativity. But to use the phraseology of someone who posts from beyond the pond....HOWEVAH
I am, as each of us is, a Celtic supporter.
Football and Celtic does not need 'managed expectations', it does not need ' a dose of reality', and it definitely doesn't need a 'pace back to see the oil painting of perspective'.
Celtic is our passion, Celtic is our dream, Celtic is our ambition and Celtic is our essence.
Win. lose or draw!
Win regularly, lose sometimes, draw occasionally, but Celtic for ever!
Self-belief in the team has little to do with any of that.
Faith in what we were built on, where the walls were heading and the stained glass depictions of where we came from and the demons that were defeated on the way, well that is what made me a Celtic Supporter.
Possibility of defeat? I leave that to others.
Handling defeat? Pile that on me!
hail hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:47
COMMENT-BODY:Ross Common,
your right Ed is a good poster, but for me its because his motives are clear, he still chooses to support, financially and emotionally his team/club warts and all. That's the bit that confuses me about him as his posts appear intelegent yet he does seem blind to the scottish conspiracy.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:50
COMMENT-BODY:Canamalar,
What Scottish conspiracy?
Speaking as a Scotsman!
Hail hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:51
COMMENT-BODY:Woodstock
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:54
COMMENT-BODY:I notice a few people make comments about how they like EdwardUrsus, but can't fathom how he still supports Rangers even though he knows how the fans can be.
If Celtic were taken over by a despicable element, would you find it so easy to simply walk away and find another team? An emotional bond is formed between supporter and team, almost akin to, dare I say it, a child and the parents.
EdwardUrsus may not believe in a fenian-blood-spilling Rangers, but in his heart he holds his vision of Rangers, an honest-to-goodness vision, and with every beat of his heart, it spreads a little more blue around his body.
How can you let that kind of bond just break?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 01:59
COMMENT-BODY:estadio,
are you kidding me, the not so secret shame is a starter for 10. Maybe the press can advise you about the hoards of bead rattling immigrants stealing jobs and up-setting the status quo of the supremicy of ra peepil. Then again as a simple fenian scotsman I may be reading too much into the whole thing eh.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ross Common
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:00
COMMENT-BODY:Canamalar
I am not big on conspiracies. But then again............
PS If the HUNS ( God forbid ) get to the UEFA final And they get an extension ( I think they will ) it will be a Tainted Title.................
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:01
COMMENT-BODY:Estadio, ah git where yer comin' from and I agree. But our host has his own opinion and I think your mild chastisement was a wee bit disingenuous. This site loves you. Your absence is mourned ny many. Saying that you don't post because of your disregard for the host's opinions is your prerogative. However, I'm sure he will and does welcome your counter point of view. Just my opinion tho'.
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:02
COMMENT-BODY:Craxa-Nice wind up mate,ain't falling for that one.Hail,Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:04
COMMENT-BODY:The Incredible String Band
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:04
COMMENT-BODY:ssm:
Care to explain?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:09
COMMENT-BODY:greeky, (i'm no even trying to start yer name), Eds team have no history, other than being a violently anti-catholic collection of people, who have declared themselves christian, religous or not its an oxymoron and intellegent people should know better.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:14
COMMENT-BODY:Fairport Convention
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:14
COMMENT-BODY:Canamalar,
There is without a doubt a toxic attitude towards the Celtic football club, those who support(ed) it, and those who see value in its founding principles.
To see this as an all embracing Scottish Conspiracy is untenable.
I am Scottish from a 'Fenian' background and proud of both.
I have many freinds who are Protestant, Catholic, Episcopalian, Baptist and none of the above but all Scottish and all Celtic Supporters.
I also have family who hale from Bray, Galway and by God even Coatbridge!
Celtic supporters through and through!
Antipathy towards us and our kind - and the virtue of being a Celtic supporter is that 'our kind' transcends boundaries that were artificially created to destroy a set of values rather than a group of people - comes from bigots NOT from Scots!
Hail Hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Greenwells Glory
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:17
COMMENT-BODY:Edward now that was funny
I shall take comfort in the certain knowlege that there are decent Ran ... Oh... I ccannot bring myself to say thatword but rings.. well done Try this Camus fearnea not latin btw and most propbaly spelt wrong.
However The cannon not the canoncsc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:18
COMMENT-BODY:From all the time I have read his posts, I don't think he is some sort of violent anti-catholic. The fact that a sizeable amount of the fans of Rangers are, has no consequence. EU sees something in the club that keeps him going back game after game. It is quite likely he was raised as a Rangers fan rather than choosing it in later life, but that changes nothing. If he didn't love something about Rangers, he wouldn't keep supporting them. The same reason we are all here today supporting Celtic, something keeps bringing us back, through highs and lows.
Would you rather ridicule and banish the few good fans that Rangers have, such as EU? And if so, why?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:19
COMMENT-BODY:canamalar, would you walk away from Celtic if Donald Trump or Rupert Murdoch bought Celtic ? I know I would, physically, but my heart would still wait on the day when my club would return to accept ale hands and I would return in a heart-beat.
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:20
COMMENT-BODY:estadio,
maybe you can explain to me why the bigots are accommodated by the scots and indeed encouraged by the scottish establishment?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:21
COMMENT-BODY:Before I work my way back though the usual stuff. Estadio I sent you an e-mail a few weeks back did you get it?
A wee song to listen to while im going backwards
Powerful words
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:25
COMMENT-BODY:Just got word from Paul67 he took Kilbeggan Blade for a workout on the sands at Seamill, he said that its a cert tomorrow so all CQNers except for the mineshafters should pile on it.
The Hun team that I predict that the cardigan will play against us - an untried hun goalie - 2 old ugly central defender huns - 2 useless ugly fullback huns - 1 spanish ned of an ugly hun - 1 elbow swinging ugly hun - 1 Ulster ugly hun - 1 ex hibee ugly hun - 1 spawn of satan never get carded ugly hun and a french ugly hun
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:25
COMMENT-BODY:Craxa-Explanation as requested.Rangers(can't believe I used that word)have NEVER been taken over by a descipable element.Celtic are Celtic.He still continues to support that team,who have not changed their beliefs from day one.Please don't try and defend the undefensible.HAIL,hAIL.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:26
COMMENT-BODY:Ah remember it well !!!???
Them was the days !
Ah'd like tae huv seen the witch take on the unions in them days.
Part Of The Union
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:32
COMMENT-BODY:ssm:
I am happy with my stance. I know some good Rangers fans, and I am not surprised when I see one. Rangers have a fair amount of bad fans, but we are not a pure and untouchable support either. We have our bad elements too. It is one thing to recognise problems with another teams support, it is another thing to ignore when there are good parts of it too.
But, you are entitled to your view on the matter. We shall disagree.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:35
COMMENT-BODY:greeky,
how do you know he is not??
every celtic supporter I know and most of england know what TFOD stand for. As I said earlier I have no problem with Ed's choice, but I hope he has no problem with me condemning his choice, as the club of his choice have very few principals but the perpetuation of racial/religous hatred. This site has a very high proportion of people who have rejected the teachings of the catholic church, yet they were indoctrunated, so they become closet tims, even non-catholic supporters are catholics and as such are fair game for discrimination/attack. greeky, explain to me, if indoctrunated catholic's can turn their backs on their church, why would it be so hard for a hun to see sense ???
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:39
COMMENT-BODY:Janis Ian
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:40
COMMENT-BODY:Greenlion2
No e-mail at all.
Canamalar.
I am not sure how much longer I can keep this going, but let me try once again.
There are many bigots in Scotland.
There are also many Scottish Celtic Supporters. There are many good people who are not Celtic Supporters.
There is also a spectrum of the Celtic support who despise everything Scottish.
Such is life's colourful palette.
Those who decide to view things only in black and white are missing so much of the rainbow's magical kaleidoscope!
There are things worth fighting for and one of them is the future of a country that our forefathers settled in.
That was a shock to the entrenched attitudes of the residents, but there again it would have been the same if the Moors had invaded Spain. or the Christians had attacked Saladin, or woe upon woe if the Israelis and Palestinians had found something to be fractious about.
Now what about getting rid of the English Anglicans.
Wait a minute. They are not all bad are they!
Well apart from the Scots that is!
Simpson, Craig and Gemmell,
Murdoch McNeil and Clark,
Johnstone, Wallace, Chalmers, Auld and Lennox,
I hope that helps!
Hail hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:41
COMMENT-BODY:I watched a few videos tonight of the centenary season
It amazing how your old memory goes. The amount of games we drew also the games we also did not win in the last minute ie the 2-2 games with both the sheep and the huns.
It was good to see real adverts behind the goals with Eldorado prominent.
The haircuts were tremendous. Speaking of which TTTT I was talking to your sister tonight in the club.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:42
COMMENT-BODY:canamalar, I await a reply !
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:44
COMMENT-BODY:canamalar:
It is cyrillic script just so you know, Russian usage.
The only person who can tell you why EdwardUrsus continues to support Rangers, is, surprisingly, EdwardUrsus. I would bet he has very good reasons for doing so, and not, as you seem to think, purely because he wants to be up to his knees in your blood.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:45
COMMENT-BODY:Craxa-descipable,sure I meant to say despicable.I have rankers relatives who I love dearly & I'm sure eveyone on here does,but,sorry I'm a Celtic supporter & when it comes to us against them,well it's a no brainer.Hail,Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:49
COMMENT-BODY:Canamalar
Can I just say before I hit the sack, that never having been part of a clique or any other bunch that sounds like the french for a door snib shutting, I will be in BBs for a short time later today.(12 - 12.30)
I would be delighted if you were there and would be pleased to buy you a pint.
Hail Hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 02:57
COMMENT-BODY:That's The Way
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:00
COMMENT-BODY:ssm, I don't Im glad to say.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:01
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:04
COMMENT-BODY:ssm:
I want Celtic to beat Rangers 100 times out of 100 too, but I wouldn't ostracise friend or family just because they happened to feel the opposite.
Let me give you an excerpt from our very own club's website.
"The best that Celtic stands for is an inclusive organisation being open to all regardless of age, sex, race, religion or disability.
Celtic has always been a Club willing to offer a welcome to all."
Welcoming to all...unless Edwardursus does something unbecoming, I will not tar him with the bigot brush. If he displays inappropriate behaviour, I will condemn him for it, but not before then.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:05
COMMENT-BODY:S'ppose I'd better hit the sack then.
One more afor I go.
Jefferson Airplane
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:05
COMMENT-BODY:estadio,
sorry, I'm not following your drift, it looks like you are saying that anti-catholic/irish is not a problem in scotland compared to problems elsewhere so its ok.
Black is not a colour and white is the combination of every colour so if I see everything in white it means I got the rainbow. My rainbow shows me that blinkers to injustice is inexcusable and should be identified and erradicated without hesitation nor remorse. Sympathisers to unjust organisations only perpetuate the injustice and ensure the continuation. Wether they seem like nice people or not. Lots of people could have told you Hitler was a nice guy.
Get my drift ??
In the words of Peter Tosh:
Everybody's crying out for peace,
but none is crying out for justice.
there'll be no peace till man has equal righs and justice.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: EdwardUrsus
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:09
COMMENT-BODY:Moonbeamswetdream :- Going by my records we didn't play any German teams in the 1933 - 39 period. We did play two Austrian teams at Ibrox, 1934 and 1937 but as both were before anschlus with Nazi Germany I can't see a swastika being flown.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:10
COMMENT-BODY:greeky ok rusky what does it mean??
and lots of very nice people allowed the nazi party to take power.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:11
COMMENT-BODY:Pablo-thats most unusual,but the'yre not all bad people as Craxa says.Craxa-Can you quote me their method statement.Bet it's nothing like ours.Hail,Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:11
COMMENT-BODY:Canamalar
Yep you're right.
All Scots are a really nasty piece of work who should be shot at dawn!
Especially that team of '67.
I give up!
But I'll still buy you that pint!
hail Hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:13
COMMENT-BODY:canamalar:
It means Stakhanovite. Best to type it into wikipedia or google for an explanation.
Not every German was a Nazi.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:18
COMMENT-BODY:My Stakhanovite friend it pains me that the younger generation know nothing of your name, to call you greeky is the same as saying Naka is Korean.
I have no problem with Ed choosing to be a hun its a dirty job but somebody has to do it.
As long as we play in the SPL then long live the Huns, you couldn't make up a more despicable foe, there is nothing to like about them and I for one am glad of that. I wouldn't want it any other way, I don't want them to change, It dont bother me what they are.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:19
COMMENT-BODY:estadio,
glad you got there, and I'll be first against the wall.
howmany scottish cap's did the team of 67 get.??
The pint sounds good, if I'm in town I will take you up on the offer, cheers.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:22
COMMENT-BODY:narrowbhoat:
As they say, youth is wasted on the young, maybe even myself included in that!
To call a greek 'greeky' would be disrespectful too, although maybe that was the intention, a little belittling along with the rhetoric. ;)
Every hero needs a villain. Has noone here seen 'Mystery Men'...
Off to the game tomorrow?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:24
COMMENT-BODY:Crax-was that a no then.G'nite.Hail,Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:25
COMMENT-BODY:Canamalar
I leave you with a fond farewell, a recollection that celts with a hard 'c' all came from the plains of northern Europe and a prayer for your soul!
Shades of Alba
Ye can keep your toon tae wander roon, ye can keep your cities fair,
ye can keep your land-locked burns and lochs, cos the place to stand and stare
is where the sand and the rock strewn shore, meet the pools of foam filled life,
where the breakers beat and the seagulls scream and the wind cuts like a knife.
Aff ye go ye romantic lud, yer winds are full of pain,
for colours on the hills abound and life comes wae the rain,
where the heather’s green, the bracken’s brown and the mosses every hue,
where the land beneath my feet is sod and the earth is rich and true.
Yer both of ye well aff the mark, ye've held our country down,
the place tae see the heart of man is the city and the town,
where coal and iron fashioned lives, where the smiddies’ hammer’s call,
formed ships of steel, from calloused hands and made this world so small.
Whit’s a’ this row yer spouting forth, wae selfish ignorance,
yer senses miss the subtleties of nature’s simple dance,
each step and twirl, each bow and spin, each partner on the floor,
is touched by music’s haunting spell and the sum of parts is more.
For no wan colour shades the map, no wan contour its height,
no wan sound and no wan voice has a stranglehold on right,
like daein’ a jigsaw in the dark, nae box tae gie us clues,
the task’s tae find the place to fit each bit we huvnae used.
Hail hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:27
COMMENT-BODY:ssm:
Apologies for not replying, I didn't think it was a genuine request to get their mission statement.
My overall point was that a football club should not be your only point of reference when judging a person. You were playing on the side of things that a football club is everything about a person, thus I referenced the Celtic club statement.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:29
COMMENT-BODY:googled it and nothing.
I've never claimed to be an historian and am wondering why I would know about the word in english/greek/russian or any other misinterpretation?
wikipedia, never done it and was told it can be changed by the last viewer so dont use it.
But yourself and TNT seem well genned up so could one of you give me a sentence on it, please?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:37
COMMENT-BODY:canamalar:
Not to worry, I don't assume everyone knows what it means!
Wikipedia gives a basic overview, but I can understand that it's not the most definite point of reference.
Stakhanovite was in reference to the name for exceptional workers during the Stalin era of the Soviet Union. Named after the basis for it, Aleksei Grigoryevich Stakhanov, it was given to people who performed heroic feats of labour and who excelled and produced results far beyond those of the norm. Some of their methods used to achieve these feats were only later discovered after the period of 'glasnost' at the end of the Soviet Union, and slightly tainted their achievements.
This is the first link I found from a google search, it might give you further details.
Stakhanovite Movement
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:42
COMMENT-BODY:Stakhs
Life as a Celtic supporter would be boring if we didn't have the Huns to complain about. Not only that they make us feel better about ourselves, saves paying for expensive therapy. God bless the Huns I say, best of all is when we win the league through adversity and cheating MIB victory is so much sweeter I wouldn't have it any other way,
God 10 pints of Barnsley Bitter makes me Righteous and Sanctemonous and a bad speller
Goodnight mon the hoops
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:44
COMMENT-BODY:Craxa-you've got my type of character wrong there mate.I do not judge a person by the team they support.As stated earlier,I have relatives who support them,I support Celtic & this is called CQN.G'nite.Hail,HAIL.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:44
COMMENT-BODY:narrowbhoat:
Mind and add a wee pint of water before bed then. ;)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:46
COMMENT-BODY:ssm:
Celtic Quick News, not Celtic Supporters Only. ;)
Goodnight! We are all on the same side at 3pm tomorrow.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:48
COMMENT-BODY:estadio,
beautiful words, but our freedom to express ourselves was won by martyrs, my right to speak and dissent is bathed in the blood of my forefathers, the fight is not done and the fabian society would not exist wothout the blood of revolutionaries.
I'd love to see evolution take our society forward, but my interpretation of the trends of scottish society is that it is becoming more insular and less tolerant towards my kind, this country would have muslim royalty before a catholic. The law exists to exclude only catholics.
The queen is first amongst equals, but not allowed to be catholic, therefore, a catholic cannot be an equal in his/her country of birth.
As a republican in the literal sense I do not like the argument, but cant think of a better one to analogise.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: lubo1977
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 03:59
COMMENT-BODY:we're gonna win the league
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 04:06
COMMENT-BODY:ctaxa/narrowbhoat, cheers for taking the time.
Ed, I am honestly confuse by your choice and abhor what your club represent historically and what appears to be a majority outlook even today.
Its like I abhor what capitilism represents and am confused how any intellegent person can tell me that equalibrium can ever exist, for the exact same argument as the capitalist tells me human nature will not allow socialsim cant exist.
To me capitalism represents greed,
your club represents oppression.
pass me the toilet paper.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 04:18
COMMENT-BODY:I do not hate Ed, I hate his choice and the conditions required to make his choice look attractive.
I will fight to protect his right to his choice, but will not give succour to his misadventure.
nitol
dont care who plays or what tactice are used as long as we get a result.
onward and upward.
hail hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 05:03
COMMENT-BODY:Craxa-just got up to go to loo there & heard pc still on.Can you explain your statement of "You were playing on the side of things that a football club is everything about a person" & refer me to any of my comments,from which you came to this conclusion.Chance for you to retract & apologise.Hail,Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: logger 'GG
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 07:12
COMMENT-BODY:to:IanBrynes@mib.com
From:Duffield@sfahq.com
Urgent
Ian
Following the unplanned result Wednesday, the fixture pile up for Walter and the loss of a few players, drastic action is needed at the Aberdeen game tomorrow.
To even the playing field and ease the pressure on our team can I politely request that you book a few players tomorrow or send them off making them ineligible for our next league game against Celtic.
Concentrate on a few vital players in the squad and ensure we weaken them for the run in.
Players to focus on:
Boruc has been flapping at some crosses this year and could be contravening the edicts on inciting the fans. ;-)
McManus gives the opposing captain a hearty handshake at the coin toss. This should be deemed dangerous play and a yellow card is well deserved. That should stop him from making a full blooded tackle during the game.
JVOH (How the hell could I spell his name, he's not even Scottish). Walter pointed out to me that when he undeservedly scored the winner on Wednesday, he dived on to his knees. This is obviously an overt religious display influenced by the bead rattlers at Parkhead, and as such it should be punished with a red card. As Kenny did not do it, I suggest you do so, and if it's in the tunnel before the game we would be very happy.
Robson also clearly deserved a card for his tackle in the first minute. Not only was it dangerous but also ageist. I suggest you give him a yellow card when you get the teamsheets.
We are all relying on you Ian and believe me when I say that your actions will not be forgotten in high places here.
Your good friend
Duffield.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gweedorebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 08:08
COMMENT-BODY:Paul an honest post. Also keep up the pressure on the huns. Anything anti hun gets my vote.
Living in west lothian i see the bigotry and scum behaviour every day, red white and blue paving stones orange flags etc. Thank god i can escape to civilised gweedore every few weeks.
I was caught up in a traffic hold up last saturday due to a massive orange walk out our way. i went down a side street and three wee boys where walking past a car when three men who you could only describe as attractively challenged dressed like toy soldiers with extremly tight trousers proceeeded to shout
Get out my way ya wee bead ratteling tattie munching bxxxxx.
The crime two boys had hun tops on one the hoops.
The majority of huns are scum as we all witnessed on wednesday we should never ever give them an inch.
Now to the game Aberdeen are a strange team and it is hit and miss which version wil turn up.
We must keep the momentum going but some issues will impact on that
Caldwell for all his faults is a better defender and organiser than mick.
With Caldwell out then i hope we go with balde rather than odea for no other reason than someone with a bit of authority needs to keep mick focussed.
Naylor may be out and wilson is a bit short of match practice but i am pretty confident he will do the job.
Hartley carried a a knock into the huns game and may miss today. Please strachan do not be tempted to play that imposter Donatie. If anything go with Sno to partner robson.
Looks like JVOH will be out so a chance for GG.
Now Mcdonald i love the guy but he is running on empty, infact the orange light came on a good few games ago and while i would start him is it time to bring on hutchison second half?
We must maintain the tempo. i know not easy after such a pasionate game but victory is needed to make sure the manky mob can't win it next sunday. Lets make sure they have to wait for as long as possible and who knows the miracle may happen.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nakasleftpeg
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 08:40
COMMENT-BODY:Can someone please help.
I'm looking for a tried and trusted source to watch the game on PC , as I'm in Germany and no Setanta today.
I've tried one or two previously but they never seem to work.
Thanks
NLP
C'mon the Hoops !
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 09:07
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 09:19
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 09:28
COMMENT-BODY:TTTT:
Read your retort and good one too. But in saying my post was condescending of you can’t you see the irony where I think your post was condescending of John Reid.
It was not my intention to be condescending (I was merely taking a little ump over your ‘do I work for the club’ jibe) and if it annoyed you I apologise. Again it was not my intent but reading back I can see how you took it so.
I have done you the courtesy of a ‘sincere’ apology please allow me the same in explanation of my perpetual stance vis-à-vis Celtic and Scotland.
First though I would thank you not to invite me to call you a ‘hun’. I never passed assertions on your Celtic credentials. Just for the record – I have never, under any name, called any poster on here or anywhere else a hun. To imply by innuendo, whether deliberate or not, that on that count I have previous, does me an injustice.
Back to the explanation.
When it comes to Celtic, and the politics of Celtic, I am as far to the right as I can possibly go. I make no apology in that. Being ‘right-wing’ in Celtic, does not in any way impair my ability to assess the individual, and collective, efforts of our board.
Like you I have been around here for quite some time; in my case, since Paul’s very first article. I first posted the night Jimmy Johnstone passed on.
Since the very beginning I have been constantly aware that this is indeed the most public of forums. Open to any of any persuasion. What is said here is not kept here; it is often taken (often verbatim) and regurgitated (often with a derisory spin) elsewhere.
I have always been careful of what I say on here and any frustrations that I may feel towards my club I keep to myself or discuss them in a face to face environment.
I try hard not to feed those who would most do us harm with the ammunition with which to do it.
Now if others wish to post stuff which can easily be lifted and used against them. So be it - that - is their prerogative. THEIR individual conscience is their judge of what is appropriate and that which is not. But in posting, their posts are then open to retort, just as mine are.
To a separate issue: a poster of late, whom I was going to reply to, but didn’t have time at the time.
(I’m not being rude, I just can’t remember who it was that wrote the post)
A poster said that it was easier for the Celtic supporters who did not live in the West of Scotland to accept our present situation.
Not true. It may not be harder but I don’t think it is any easier. We have Rangers supporters and huns here in Australia too. We have Orange Men and masons too.
(Twice I tested that link to the masons and twice it worked. Twice I posted it and twice it screwed up. So I’ve cut it. ???)
They are on the streets too as well as on the web pages. We might not get it in the face as much as you guys back home. But we still get it. They are best ignored but they are not idle.
Pfayr:
I might be posting under a misapprehension; I thought you were an Ayrshire Procurator Fiscal. Apologies if I got that wrong.
I replied to one of your posts that was apportioning blame on Lee Naylor and Scott Brown for Motherwell’s winning goal against us. You think that was Lillian – that is your prerogative but I still think both of them were blameless.
Motherwells Goal
I love my history and I love its ‘mottos’
This is the motto of the Fianna.
"Truth in our hearts, strength in our limbs and deeds according to our words"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ianinjesi
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 09:33
COMMENT-BODY:Five games left and all Celtic can do is collect 15 points. Mr Brines is ironing his blue outfit at this moment. He will try to upset us, don`t fall for it! :-)
Today will be a fair test. Come on Celts!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: EdwardUrsus
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 09:36
COMMENT-BODY:GreenwellsGlory :- You have me beaten on that one.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 09:51
COMMENT-BODY:Southbhoy, I fear Aberdeen are falling apart and will be in no shape to compete for anything come 18 May.
My hope is that they have better players than their results suggest which may count against us today and against Rangers next month. At least this time Jimmy Calderwood will have a support to answer to if his team fails to compete on the last day.
Estadio, averaging 3 articles a day, you can only stretch positive material so far.
Gweedore, thanks, I have no intention of letting up on them.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 09:53
COMMENT-BODY:Ed:
I really enjoyed the game the other night, no doubt you didn’t but what were your views on your own teams performance?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Taurangabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:05
COMMENT-BODY:Estadio and Canamalar enjoyed your discussions. It does show what a diverse family we come from. I come from a big family , I am lucky. The priest at my Mum and Dads wedding said that my brigton kin , the ones that had the courage and foresight to step into a Church , would have made good Catholics , some of my cousins go to Ibrox and have partners who hail hail in Celtic Park. So Donegal was joined with Skye. That was a long time ago and things have changed for our familes but not for the greater community. There is too much bigotry , bias and blatant anti Celtic sentiments and by too many of the people in Power who we expect to lead. I experienced this again when I brought my own family home for three years , I keep hoping that time and years will allow chnage to happen but it doesn't. It will take a real shake of our political , media and sporting hierarchies to change a single thing. Scotland's shame indeed.
Back to the football. Estadio I think that Paul is only trying to bring some balance to the extremes with his small hits at rangers after the hits we've takem from everywhere.This blog is about tempering expectations and I thinks he's spot on , its not a def three pointer , even after Wednesday. I regard Paul as a very good reader of the mood amongst the Celtic family and he tries to put a balance to the headliners so that we can have our say to the right ,left ,centre and far away. Cheers Paul. Canamalar I don't disagree with your republican views or anger at Scottish society but unlike you and more like Estadio I am a proud Scot and Celtic man. Its not exclusive.
Celtic 3 - Sheepies 1
Will be intersting to see who replaces Caldwell and if we miss him. Good to see his game coming on and some well earned respect from many posters.
stillmathematicallypossiblefor threeinarow
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: lubo1977
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:19
COMMENT-BODY:can anyone post a link to the fight at the end of the game - where weir and caldwell got booked
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the devil plays 4-5-1
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:36
COMMENT-BODY:Ahhh magic...just back from a long walk with the pooch and devoured the rolls and sausage washed down with a large mug of coffee. Now about to get ready, hit the boozers for a few pints and then head off to the game. I feel a great Saturday coming on.
Yes Aberdeen are hurting after last week, and yes the won (fortunately) the last time they played at Parkhead....but I think we now have a scent for something special. No coincidence that the results of the last 2 games have been built on a team that has handled the physical aspects of the game and allowed the better quality of the Celtic players go on and do the business. Its a shame to have to say that at this stage of the season...however all is not lost yet.
Same again today Celts.
Celtic 5 Dons 0
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gary67
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:40
COMMENT-BODY:Being KO'd by QOS & 11 players not getting their contracts renewed, Aberdeen are teetering on implosion for the remainder of this season, an early goal and it could be 5 or 6 today.
Celtic 6 Sheep 0
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: barcabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:45
COMMENT-BODY:i don't want to downplay anyone's experience of high level bigotry in scotland, but i haven't experienced anything like that in a long time....admittedly i only spend about half the year in scotland, and even then not in the west coast, but i just don't see any evidence of this bigotry....not at a high level, and my business exposure brings experiences from all over Scotland....
the naked sectarian bigotry we see from some rangers supporters and from the OO is surely only carried out by the knuckledraggers.....it seems to me that nowadays there is nothing like the bias and bigotry exhibited by industry and elements of the state that existed in the past....
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the devil plays 4-5-1
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:48
COMMENT-BODY:Gary67 - your one goal up on me...I'll settle for your score.
The only slight concern I have with the situation at Aberdeen is that, no one should ever underestimate the beast that is a footballer about to go out of contract. We've all been duped here before and thought a player going out of contract was a thoroughbread...as soon as the new contract is signed, it turns back to a donkey!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Lubo
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:50
COMMENT-BODY:Lubo1977,
You can see it on the BBC page.
Square Go
Lubo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bryce Curdy
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:50
COMMENT-BODY:I've struggled to keep up with the blog recently, so apologies if this has already been discussed.
If the season is extended (and I don't for one second believe it shoud be) then surely it would have to be extended for all clubs so that a club does not gain the advantage of knowing what result is required. This effects both the champions and the UEFA Cup spot, and I believe is now standard practice. Remember in the 1978 World Cup when Argentina played Peru knowing they had to win by four goals, and ultimately won 6-0.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:54
COMMENT-BODY:Its quite ironic that injuries and suspensions are forcing WGS to play the team that everyone has been screaming for recently, and lo and behold they do like they have a chance of pulling this off.
A team containing
Boruc
Hinkel
Balde
McManus
Wilson
Naka
Hartley
Robson
Aiden
Samaras
JVOH/McDonald
seems to be the strongest team by a roughly general concensus.
However WGS has made a tactical masterstoke in giving Naka the "Lubo" role in the last few games, so credit where credit is due. I personally think this has had a bigger impact than the enforced personnell changes, as no one seems to be able to pin the wee man down and he has had a major impact in the last two games.
I have no doubt that they will drop at least the 7 points required for us to win the league on goal difference.
It is back in our own hands again.
Celtic 7 Sheep 0
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: EdwardUrsus
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:55
COMMENT-BODY:StoirMhaChroi :- I thought the main difference was in Celtic, they didn't give our players time on the ball and in midfield tended to pick up the second ball most of the time. We were outfought by a team that seemed to want the result more.
Much as it's a sickener to lose in the last minute like that I can't say the result was unfair.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 10:58
COMMENT-BODY:barcabhoy
think you have answered your own point there mate
if you dont spend any time in the west coast of scotland your are ulikely to experience the bigotry that goes on here
it is not publicised by the scottish meeja as it is still accepted as the norm, so unless you see it first hand you wont hear about it.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:01
COMMENT-BODY:Some interesting discussion on the night shift about what it means to support a football team, and in particular us and them.
Loyalty to a team, may well start in childhood, but I know have come across ex Rangers fans who simply stopped supporting the club when they were old enough to realise what it stood for. And other CQNers have reported knowing similar people. I have never met an ex Celtic fan who has left the club in the same way.
I think this difference demonstrates the very real gulf that separates the history of the two clubs. We all know what our club stands for and are rightly proud of our history of inclusiveness and being open to all.
And everyone knows what they stand for. The protestant supremacy, open bigotry and only being dragged a little way from that stance by the football authorities. The bile that spewed from their support on Wednesday demonstrated just how far their support has moved – not that far! Booing a song sung in memory of the Hillsborough dead and the Famine reference show exactly what they are all about.
For me every adult supporter of that club has made a choice. Either they follow the club because they support the bigotry, or they are apologists for bigots, or they bury their head and pretend that it is just another football club.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ~Kevtic
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:02
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Taurangabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:03
COMMENT-BODY:Barcabhoys , that is very good to hear. I hope that your experiences are shared by more rather than less people.
I am not particularily keen on exposing my own personal experiences that have grounded my opinions but what about just looking at a few simple but real facts from People in power
A Catholic cannot be King or Queen (or Prime Minister , I am not sure)
The procurator fiscal went quite far in examining a case against a Celtic goalkeeper for blessing himself.
The recent Herald newspaper headliner about bead rattlers and the focus on the coin throwing incident without muchado about the pototoes thrown onto the field by rangers fans. This might be the media pandering to the masses but surely people in power read the papers and have a duty to do something. Perception is reality.
If you don't think that the SFA have done as much as they can without actually awarding points to Rangers , see Aidens bookings versus Bazza , games away and home , will an extension of the season convince you even slightly.
Barca I am a positive guy , I think I am fairly well grounded and I always look on the bright side . I do think Scotland , maybe the West more than anywhere else , has a way to go for me not to think of Scotland shame....but I hope your reality is more right than mine.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bryce Curdy
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:04
COMMENT-BODY:I don't like having a go at other CQN posters, but am I the only one whose blood was boiling reading the first two sentences of the second paragraph of this post from Lurgan53.
There was me thinking the whole Celtic-minded thing was 95% an invention from our cretinous sports media with Keevins in particular leading by example, and then I read this. I agree that O'Leary should not be allowed to darken the door at Celtic Park but only because purely and simply he is a quite hopeless football manager. To describe his lack of affinity with the club as being more important than this is utterly disgraceful.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ~Kevtic
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:05
COMMENT-BODY:Team selection is vital.
I applaud the manager for sticking with his preferred centre back paring because I think both will delevope into a fine partnership. I wish fans would get off their backs. However when one is missing Balde must play. If this policy had been adopted all season he would be in a much better position.
I applaud Gordon for sticking with JVoH and Skippy because no one else in our squad is capable of scoring the amount of goals they score. Take their goals and numerous assists away and where would we be?
I applaud him for sticking by Naka.
Robson is a real Celtic player he must be in the starting line up for the last five matches. Still can't understand the decision to take him off on Wednesday.
A win today would begin to put pressure on them but a big win would send out a clear message.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: jeez_I_thought_blinker_was_pants
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:06
COMMENT-BODY:Sorry, if this has been posted before, but both sides of the motorway at the Royal has lanes closed, added to that, there was an overturned tanker opposite Royston. Don't know if it will be cleared up before kick off, but I was an extra half hour this morning going to work.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:07
COMMENT-BODY:Nipping out now but just a quick couple of comments before I go.
I was not criticising Paul or his efforts. It is not my place nor am I qualified.
I felt that the responses to the articles were tending towards a siege mentality rather than an offensive (in the best sense)approach.
No negative criticism was intended other than on my own inability to contribute.
Secondly, back to the Camnamalar discussion supplemented by a number of contributors notably Taurangabhoy.
I have never doubted that in various dark places in our society, people (and I use the term loosely - although they seem to like putting 'we are the' before it)exist, thrive, and breathe to fulminate and connive against Celtic, Celtic Supporters, Catholics, Republicans, and all those other ne'er do wells who threaten their self endowed supremacy or even those who happen to have green socks on!
That is the intellect that we are talking about here, those who use the term 'enemy' when considering a child's education who we then provide a soap box for to broadcast their evil seeds!
They exist in the SFA, The SPL, The Lodges, the Pubs, the streets, and under stones.
I personally have known and fought against many of them.
I have no doubt that blatant actions of bias are perpetrated, encouraged and overlooked by those people and their mates in some sections of the press.
No way will I try and justify their existence never mind their actions.
But I also know of others representing thousands upon thousands possibly millions of magic personalities who see them for what they are and treat them with the ridicule they deserve.
It is for that reason that I refuse to accept any statement that generalises bigoted actions and makes them characteristics of all Scots. That is as racist as the bigots who sang 'the famine's over' song, and I will not stoop to their level.
You may as well say that all priests are Paedophiles.
Anyway off out now.
May see you in BBs between 12 and 12.30.
Hail hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: moonbeams wet dream
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:14
COMMENT-BODY:EdwardUrsus team a due to play a friendly against Liverpool according to the DR (don't worry - didn't buy it just took a sneeaky peak when I was in shop getting my rolls this morning). I wonder how the Booing of the Walk On will sit with the Kop?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:22
COMMENT-BODY:Important notice about today's articles
I have scheduled a Live Updates article to appear at 14:45 and a Match Reports article to appear at 17:00.
I am unable to leave a "new article posted" comment, so please look out for them.
If someone can leave a "new article posted" comment I would appreciate it.
Thanks.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: goldstar10
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:30
COMMENT-BODY:I am an infrequent poster but constant reader.
Gordon J 11.01- my own father comes into that category, when he was younger apparently he never missed a game at Ibrox.
Now- he has nothing but contempt for the club, in fact he has been to a few Celtic games over the years and no doubt roots for us in games against them.
My 2 siblings are bluenoses (I don't have a problem debating football with one but not the other). My aul man views their football attitudes with a sense of resignation, but 1 thing for sure is that he is proud of me for my views and love of our club.
Anyway, after 92 mins of Wednesday, today's match was shaping up to be one I was dreading, 1 minute later and everything changed- I am as pumped up for today as I was for Wednesday.
They are crumbling, it is up to us to keep the pressure up.
Hail Hail and onwards to (a very unlikely) 3 in a row!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:40
COMMENT-BODY:We are on the way back it seems and todays game cannot come quick enough for me - 3-1 I'm sure.
Some posters seems to forget that we have our share of knuckle dragging swampmen that follow the hoops; I saw the saddest sight ever on Wednesday after the game - a father a child (the kid was no more than 5-years old) walking past the Celtic Shop in the car park; the area was mobbed so others must have seen this sorry sight too: The pair hand in hand were belting out the Nacho Novo hope you die in your bed song .......... followed by a rousing chorus of "if you hate the feckin Rangers, hate the feckin rangers ..."
In this day and age how can this still be happening? Some posters see everything thro' green tinted glasses - wake up guys we have our share of wasters too.
On a happier note - how sweet was that feeling on Wednesday evening when the ref blew for time up? Hail Hail!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:52
COMMENT-BODY:benjy,
Every club has its share of undesirable supporters, ourselves included. I sometines go to first division games if we aren't playing on a Saturday and there are some similar chants there.
But while we should not forget that, we should acknowledge that it is a small minority in our case. Which can't be said by a certain other club.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: moonbeams wet dream
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:53
COMMENT-BODY:Bryce Curdy,
I see what you mean after re-reading that but it is not how I took in on first instgance. I felt lurgan53 was stating that DO'L would fit the mould the media peepul feel we fit 'Celtic minded' because he is Irish and most probably Catholic and that his nationality and religion he is most certainly not one of us and never will be. It's funny how we read things differently.
The only person who can confirm/deny is Lurgan53 but I tend to think, and hope, he meant it the way I took it.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: moonbeams wet dream
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:53
COMMENT-BODY:Bryce Curdy,
I see what you mean after re-reading that but it is not how I took in on first instgance. I felt lurgan53 was stating that DO'L would fit the mould the media peepul feel we fit 'Celtic minded' because he is Irish and most probably Catholic and that his nationality and religion he is most certainly not one of us and never will be. It's funny how we read things differently.
The only person who can confirm/deny is Lurgan53 but I tend to think, and hope, he meant it the way I took it.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: twosheds
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 11:59
COMMENT-BODY:There are 3 works of art:
1) The film There Will Be Blood
2) Blue Nile's Saturday Night
3) Jan's goal in 90+4 minutes against the huns.
2S
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 12:11
COMMENT-BODY:even managers should stay to the end of the game
ROY Keane has already endured one nightmare derby moment this week, so he is determined not to suffer another when Sunderland head for Newcastle tomorrow.
The Irishman was at Parkhead on Wednesday when the battle of the Old Firm looked destined to finish in a 1-1 draw.
At that point, with 15 minutes remaining, Keane disappeared to his car in a bid to miss the crowds and missed the injury-time winner from Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink that has raised Hoops' hopes of catching the Gers in the title race.
But Keane, a former Celtic midfielder and childhood fan, was not around to witness the green and white celebrations - although he was soon left wishing he was.
"I was literally 50 yards from the ground when I realised Celtic had scored," said Keane, who insists that he was north of the border purely as a spectator, rather than on a scouting mission.
"I was locked in the car park because they wouldn't let us out. We left but not early enough so I had an interesting conversation with the police woman for about an hour.
She wouldn't let us out - and she was a Rangers fan!"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: celticlover
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 12:12
COMMENT-BODY:Estadio & Canamalar
Thank you both for allowing me to eneter the 'public gallery' and listen to your discussion, it was very interesting and revealing (Estadio .... Shades of Alba is top class work).
The one thing I am sure of (apart from my God)is that mankind never changes but it is mankind that changes everything. Look for good and you will find it everywhere around you but never be naive in not realising that power is something that most find impossible to give up and, as a result, will do almost anything that will allow them to hold on to it.
Ther are many sayings/ quotations which,I feel,almost touch the real heart of mankind and one of my favourites is one which goes something like this:
"The reasonable man adjusts to the world around him, the unreasonable man expects the world to adjust to him. That is why the unreasonable man is the one who achieves change!"
I think Canalmar last post which included the words "our freedom to express ourselves was won by martyrs" sways the discussion for me.
Thanks again.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: celticlover
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 12:23
COMMENT-BODY:11:40, benjy
I too heard that song on Wednesday and was mortally offended that our Club will be associated with it. To me it is as vile as the group of Rangers supporters who continue with the "BJK" slander.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TommyTwistsTommyTurns
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 12:43
COMMENT-BODY:Stoir - apology accepted from me. I should have just posted the first response, so please accept mine to you.
I'll never criticise anyone for defending this current board and the last thing on my mind is giving amunition to our enemies. They come up with plenty of that by themselves.
I understand your concerns, but the beauty of this blog is that for the most part posters say what they are thinking and from the heart.
We all operate within Paul's guidelines as it is his blog. In fact I mailed him directly last week to ask about a rumour I heard rather than put it up here as it would have been potential ammo. Unfortunately, another poster put it up on the blog anyway!
There is a broad spectrum of opinions on here and long may it continue, but there are posters on here like myself who get dismayed at the levels of abuse sometimes. Negative posters should be allowed their opinion without being shouted down or ganged up on. They, in turn, should have the courage to come on here when things are going well, otherwise we'll just think that they are "Green Huns".
Hope you enjoy the game today, wherever you are watching it. A couple of thousand ex-pats in the stadium would be a welcome replacement for the thousands of "customers" who just sit there and don't get behind the team.
Hail Hail
TTTT
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 12:47
COMMENT-BODY:ssm:
Sorry I did not reply earlier, I had already went to bed by that point.
In reference to that post, I took from your posts at 2.45 & 3.44 that you do judge or categorise people to whatever extent by the team they support. An us and them mentality even within your family, and seemingly judging EU on the basis that he supports Rangers regardless of what their fans do.
If your view is something different i'm happy to listen to it, but what I typed earlier on this morning was just what I took to be your stance from your posts.
On a happier note, I had a dream last night, that Celtic won 4-0.
Okay, I didn't have a dream, but I'll go with it anyways.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Madra Rua
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 12:55
COMMENT-BODY:Estadio,
Who wrote that poem, Shades of Alba ? I really enjoyed it. Passed it on to a couple of Writer friends of mine. Reminds me of that powerful song "A Parcel of Rogues".
Very good interview with WGS on Celtic Tv last night. None of the sharp answering nonsense. Made a very valid point when he stated that G Caldwell is a very brave player, not diving into tackles brave, but is prepared to hold/carry the ball and look for a team mate to pass to when under pressure.
Match no longer on Polsat (thanks Celtic plc) so I'll be watching on CQN.
C'mon The Hoops !!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ssm
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 13:14
COMMENT-BODY:Craxa-Want to clear something up here.When I used the "us & them"term,I was talking about 90mins of football or sometimes 95mins.To suggest,I have that mentallity at all times,is where you have got it wrong.Anyway,got to go.Got a game to get to.Hail,Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: druiddude
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 13:16
COMMENT-BODY:Estadio ..Shades of Alba
Hats off
tableaux parisiens csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: hail hail
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 13:18
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They're the finest team in Scotland, I'm sure you will agree,
We'll never give up till we've won the cup and the scottish football league
They come from bonnie Scotland, they come from county Cork,
They come from dear old Donegal and even from New York,
From every street in Glasgow they proudly make their way,
To a place called dear old paradise and this is what they say.
Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They're the finest team in Scotland, I'm sure you will agree,
We'll never give up till we've won the cup and the scottish football league.
There's Fallon, Young and Gemmel who proudly wear the green,
There's Clark, McNeill and Kennedy the best there;s ever been,
Jim Johnstone, Murdoch, Chalmers, John Divers and John Hughes,
And sixty thousand Celtic fans who proudly shout the news.
Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They're the finest team in Scotland, I'm sure you will agree,
We'll never give up till we've won the cup and the scottish football league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Historyreader
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:18
COMMENT-BODY:In Donati, Samaras and Wilson; out due to knocks Naylor, JVOH and Hartley
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:22
COMMENT-BODY:Sir Paul
No, No,... a thousand times...No!
There will be no let down/up, against Aberdeen!
For you see...
Like I said...but wise woids are oft forgotten...so... I will remind all o' ye.
Listen, ma chilun...
As claimed by the redoubtable John Paul Smith...
"Don't fire till you see the white o' their eyes!"( That wiz Andy Jackson... or , mebbe it wiz Bo Jackson... anyway, it wiznae Smith...ed)( Who ever it wiz, hid the right idea,doncha think?)
I have goat it ,noo... my ever Astute...Amanuensis... has just reminded me...
It was John Paul Jones... who said...
"I have not yet begun to fight!"
So?
I have now gone and lost my train of thought...... darn!
Anyway....
Celtic 19 Aberdeen 0
Kojo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: whitedoghunch
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:23
COMMENT-BODY:Donati is a donut.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:26
COMMENT-BODY:Paul,yer lead article smacks of running scared.
Lets gub them.
4-0 will do.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:27
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:30
COMMENT-BODY:TTTT,
aggressive?
Moi?
You must be getting me confused with somebody else.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: enrico_annoni
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:31
COMMENT-BODY:1 Boruc Artur
2 Hinkel Andreas
6 Balde Dianbobo
12 Wilson Mark
44 McManus Stephen
18 Donati Massimo
19 Robson Barry
25 Nakamura Shunsuke
9 Samaras Georgios
27 McDonald Scott
46 McGeady Aiden
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kano
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:32
COMMENT-BODY:Can't wait to see all the hypocrites coming on and saying "we missed Gary Caldwell"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: enrico_annoni
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:36
COMMENT-BODY:Subs:
Brown , Pressley , Killen, McGowan, Mizuno, Caddis and Sno.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GingerAvenger
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:42
COMMENT-BODY:Mon the Hoops!
Missing the game today, but I'll be listening online and keeping an eye on CQN for updates.
3-0 win
Keep the Faith.
GingerAvenger
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: aviewfromabovethemineshaft
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:46
COMMENT-BODY:I guess its just me that thought that the rangers game was the mirror image of the game at Ibrox the last time with the exception of a gret Naka goal and a last minute winner...
We outplayed them 1st half
They showed very little but still managed to score
We relied mainly on the high ball to grab the winner
The main difference was because cuellar had been sent off the high ball actually worked this time...
The decision to take robson off was a disgraceful decision...he was the player that was giving us impetus in midfield with the ball on the deck...
We won the game despite the manager not because of him....Hopefully we can do the same today...
Hail Hail....
Welcome back Bobo!
Darren I hope you are fit as you will be playing next week as Mick is sure to get booked today...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:51
COMMENT-BODY:New article posted
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 14:52
COMMENT-BODY:Aview
That submission was the best revisionist piece...that has ever graced these pages...
My congratulations...
"It is not the fault of the Manager... It is the fault of the players... for our dreary season"
Who said that?
I dinna know... but,by jingo...
He knows his onions~
Kojo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: enrico_annoni
COMMENT-DATE:19/04/08 15:09
COMMENT-BODY:
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TITLE: Home support can lift Celtic over winning line
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 4/16/2008 01:10:00 PM
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BODY:
Would there be any doubt in the outcome of tonight’s game if the 53,000 of us in attendance gave the team eight times the vocal backing approximately 7,000 Celtic fans give at Ibrox?
Every team in European football is familiar with the phenomenon of having a more vocal away support, when fans are concentrated at one end of the ground and outnumbered, than when home supporters are dispersed throughout the stadium, but Celtic Park remains one venue that can rise to the occasion.
Our Champions League endeavours have produced one of the best home and worst away records in the competition, which leads me to believe that the Celtic Park support contributes enormously to the outcome of home games.
You and I have our part to play tonight. Enjoy yourself.
There will be two Live Updates and a Match Reports articles tonight:
Celtic v Rangers, first half live updates, will publish at 19:30
Celtic v Rangers, second half live updates, will publish at 20:45
Celtic v Rangers, March Reports, will publish at 21:45
I will not be available to issue a “new article posted” comment, so watch out for them.Labels: Match Preview
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 13:12
COMMENT-BODY:In terms of you cheeky comment about my "untutored nonsense", let me retort; you might well work with budgets, but that does not mean you understand them. I drive a car with an internal combustion engine, but I know as much about engines as a monkey knows about a banana.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 13:16
COMMENT-BODY:Sorry about that, I couldn't think of a decent comment quick enough so I 'recycled' one of Paul's old ones.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 13:30
COMMENT-BODY:TTTT are you getting a beer before the game tonight or are you still grounded from that Scotland game?
If I get out of here quick enough I might go up on the train else I'll be in the usual.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: blantyretim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 13:34
COMMENT-BODY:well spotted Dick Byrne or should that be Dick Barton special agent..
BT
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: moonbeams wet dream
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 13:35
COMMENT-BODY:moonbeams wet dream said...
Well that's if folks. I'm off. Unfortunately not to the game or as I would prefer the pub at this time but to Ayr sea front with my son and his friends as I am on an entertaining children afternoon. This makes work seem easy.
So it's Ayr, drop kids of at 5'ish, pub for a few jars, to the game, celebrations all round, another few beers in celebration of a fine 3-1 victory, home and then bed.
As if I am not tired already that is going to knock the 7... out of me.
Hail Hail. Enjoy everyone, apart from you EdwardUrsus.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: rw1798
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 13:37
COMMENT-BODY:A big shout to our wee Gary Donnelly in Norn Iron!!! C'mon the mighty Hoops 2nite!!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BigSwee
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 13:52
COMMENT-BODY:Afternoon!
How's everyone feeling about tonights game?
I'm quietly hopeful with a slight twinge of trepidation.
Usual us v them scenario!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TommyTwistsTommyTurns
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 13:54
COMMENT-BODY:GL2 - due to work won't make it into town, but depending on which son my mate is taking to the game, I might be in your usual before the game.
The boys are currently fighting it out for the remaining ticket - one could pass for 18, but the other couldn't and the big man isn't keen on leaving him standing out on Duke St. Can't think why!
txt U l8r
4Ts
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celt33
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 13:55
COMMENT-BODY:How to beat them......
Shoot on sight......
Terrorise their defense......
Wave after wave......
Above all else......
Show them why we are the CHAMPIONS.
Celt33
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tully57
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:03
COMMENT-BODY:It's an ALL or NOTHING game.
Paul is right. The fans have to be up for it big time.
No point in moaning about any perceived lack of effort from players if YOU are not belting out your support for the team.
ALL or NOTHING games from the past?
I'm thinking 4-2 v huns in 1979, 5-0 v St Mirren in 1986, 1-0 to the treble-busters v huns in 1989 Cup Final, 2-0 v St Johnstone in 1998.
I was at every one, and I'm there tonight.
Winning is all that matters.
Go out and support your team, The Celtic Way.
Tully.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: newsletter
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:12
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67 - 'I will not be available to issue a “new article posted” comment, so watch out for them'
Why? Where are you going?
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: SeaBee
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:18
COMMENT-BODY:Quick reference to the Sunday Herald nonsense. Just received the email below from the Sports Editor - seems a reasonable INITIAL response!?
Thank you for your email. Please accept my apologies for the unacceptable terminology used by Kenny Hodgart in his article of last Sunday.
We are currently looking at why this reference was included in the first place and how it slipped through our production system. We are also formulating a response for the newspaper next week. In the meantime I can only sincerely aplogise and assure you we are treating this matter very seriously.
Kind regards
Stephen Penman
Sports Editor
Sunday Herald
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:24
COMMENT-BODY:Good to see an apology. Hopefully the printed version in the next edition of the Sunday Herald will be clear for all to see.
On a separate note, is it true that Rankers have won the best matchday hospitality award ?! After CockroachGate ?! Now we definitely know the institutions are behind them !
Big score for us tonight. Goals to rain in.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BigSwee
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:27
COMMENT-BODY:Agree re. the Heralds reply.
Be interesting to see the full print in next weeks version.
Wave after wave.
We need a Celtic Tsunami led by our Japanse Bhoy as I really think he should lead by example tonight!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Big Joe
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:27
COMMENT-BODY:A very goooooooooooooooooooood afternoon.
From notjustSOsunnySpain……………………………..
BigJoe is sparking up the…………………………………….
1st CQN……………………………………………………….
Old Firm Game BBQ…………………………………
Oh Sh&^*&$$((*^^%%£$”t what’s Spanish for…………….
the fire brigade phone number…………………………
lets hope the hoops follow bigjoe’s lead 2night
BigJoewhoHasTHEfireextingusherStandingBY
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:37
COMMENT-BODY:malceye
it was the refs who voted in the poll.....something to do with brown envelopes ....the food was crap and the company even worse
:¬)
ps i`ll drop you a line tomorrow re the thing from last week
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Alobundy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:40
COMMENT-BODY:In my humble opinion tonight more than most is about discipline. The players will hopefully realise that he who laughs last laughs loudest. Walk away from confrontation. Keep a lid on thy holy gob, yes sir, no sir the order of the day. Take the tackles and get up with even more conviction to beat this bunch.
I have witnessed several teams try to out do Watties tactics, and believe me I still believe lady luck has shone upon them. Those who have a good shot on them try the good shot. Those who can harass an bully do so. Those who have the skill to dazzle, dazzle. We can beat this mob and I still faithfully believe do so convincingly.
ps, Those who need to concentrate 100 percent all of the game, DO SO. No stupid mistakes, pass the ball about, give 100 percent its all we can ask.
ps WGS dont take 15 minutes to make a substitution when they can be done in several.
I do hope Paul Hartley makes it (not another bloody hamstring), or is WGS playing mindgames.
In his abscence oh who to play. Well I actually think Evander could step up to the mark.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:44
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr Did anything ever come of that referee thing a while back?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:44
COMMENT-BODY:How will we know if the SH prints an adequate apology next Sunday?
Someone will have to be nominated to buy a copy.
Any volunteers ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Maestro
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:52
COMMENT-BODY:I fully agree that the 100% support from the fans is important tonight.
With our full backing im sure that the team will win but if for some reason we don't win we can puff our chests out and feel pride that we did everything we could for the cause and we were united as a club.
Don't let them be heard on our patch
Over and Over
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:53
COMMENT-BODY:BigJoe...
Gonnae keep me a Square Sausage Pleeese... Gonnae Pleeese... Gonnae...
o1bhoy
thatmissestattiesnneepsCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: og
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:54
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: SeaBee
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:56
COMMENT-BODY:Thom the Thim,
In my email to them I siad I would be buying a copy of the SH next week to see if an apology is printed and that it would be my last if it wasn't, so I'll volunteer and post accordingly on Sunday.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: og
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 14:59
COMMENT-BODY:tonight we will see the real colours of the MIB he is a big celtic man, his career always came first in the past, but this is his last season and more importantly his last celtic game against them, he will book a fair share of that lot and award us a penalty, no danger of losing if he has anything to do with it, mark my words.
hail hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: possilbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:14
COMMENT-BODY:Right...the clothes are all ironed & hanging up in the bedroom,the tickets ate sitting on the worktop,the car's sitting outside awaiting me. The butterflies are slowly creeping in.
Goodness...these games don't half get you going !
To all those lucky enough to be going tonight, let's hear it for the Bhoys. To the rest who will be listening to the game or watching on t.v., i hope your neighbours hear you roaring away like lion tonight.
C'mon the Hoops.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:16
COMMENT-BODY:Seeings as we're all feeling a wee bit nervous……...
Two men out on the Golf Course,
One of them is about to T off at the 10th hole, which happens to be alongside a main road, when he sees a funeral procession going by,
Instead of teeing off, he lowers his head, removes his golf hat, holding it against his chest until the funeral had passed,
At this point the other golfer remarks "You know that was one of the most touching things I've ever seen"
It was the least I could do he replied, I was married to her for 25 years.
………the old ones are still the best!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: possilbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:21
COMMENT-BODY:itzallova,
very good. That made me laugh out loud. Just wha the doctor ordered.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Big Joe
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:25
COMMENT-BODY:o1bhoy………………………
Square Sausage……………………………..
You canny get that for love nor money in spain
I will keep you 6 sardine……………………………….S
And some entrecote………………………………
bigJoewhoKNOWShow2BBQ
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: jimac
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:26
COMMENT-BODY:good luck tonite bhoys
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheLeftWinger
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:31
COMMENT-BODY:A girl consumed by fire
We all know her desire
From the plans that she has made
I have her on a promise
Immerse me in your splendor
All the plans that I have made
This is the one
This is the one
This is the one
This is the one
This is the one
Shes waited for
This is the one
This is the one
This is the one
Oh this is the one
This is the one
Shes waited for
Id like to leave the country
For a month of sundays
Burn the town where I was born
If only she'd believe me
Bellona belladonna
Burn me out or bring me home
And this is the one
This is the one
This is the one
This is the one
This is the one
Shes waited for
This is the one
This is the one
This is the one
Oh, this is the one
This is the one
Ive waited for
Oh this is the one
Oh this is the one
This is the one
Ive waited for
This is the one
Oh this is the one
Oh this is the one
This is the one
Ive waited for
This is the one
This is the one
This is the one
Oh this is the one
This is the one
Ive waited for
It may go right
But it might go wrong
This is the one
This is the one
Shes waited for
And this is the one
This is the one
This is the one
This is the one
Shes waited for
And this is the one
Oh this is the one
Ah this is the one
This is the one
Ive waited for
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:35
COMMENT-BODY:BigJoe...
Cheers next time yoor down in OZ i'll throw the Big Shrimp on the Barbie Fir BigJoe...
o1bhoy
whothinksBigJoeis weejoemillersBroCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:39
COMMENT-BODY:PFAyr
who should we sing "who ate all the flies" to then? The rankers fans or the refs?!!
Note what you say re: other thing.
Are you going tonight?
Apparently the M8 is closed which is not good for those travelling from the east.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ianinjesi
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:45
COMMENT-BODY:Had a look at a few of the links to Celtic beating them on the previous thread and the thing that stood out for me was how tough our team was. Some of that toughness added to skill will do for me.
Come on the Bhoys!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:45
COMMENT-BODY:Nice 1 TLW.
Took me back to my brother's madchester days and his middle shed and droop-shouldered walk/couldn't-give-a-monkeys attitude. He soooowanted to be Ian Brown
Me? I was just that wee bit older and not quite cool enough for that :-)
Loved the Roses though.
I'd love 3-0 playing wonderful football, but will settle for a scrappy 1-0 anytime!!
C'MON THE BHOYS,
GETRIGHTINTAETHESCUM!!!
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:50
COMMENT-BODY:malceye mate,
any ideas as to where the M8 is closed???
I'll be travelling in from Newhouse junction - not that far admittedly but still if its closed being forwarned means I will go M74and leave that bit earlier.
Cheers mate
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:54
COMMENT-BODY:Token Tim
you're fine, its the Edinburgh end that the accident occurred.
3-0 please
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Big Joe
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 15:57
COMMENT-BODY:o1bhoy………………………
If you hear the door knocking…………………………
in the next ½ Hr…………………………….
It’s the BigJoe possie……………………..
bigJoeSAYSbecarfulwhatUwishFOR: - )
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mickybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:01
COMMENT-BODY:how to beat rfc part4(simplified)
play better football (optional)
score more goals than (essential)
7 in a row csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:07
COMMENT-BODY:Malceye,
Cheers for the info mate.
3-0 sounds just magic!
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:09
COMMENT-BODY:BigJoe...
Nae Worries Miate...
A CQNer from Budapest is comin @ 4am...
RonnieBarkerOpenAllHoursHoose...IfyreaHoopsman...
o1bhoy
wholovesPorrigeCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheLeftWinger
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:09
COMMENT-BODY:Token,
Mani from the Roses/Primal Scream is a Celtic fan.
"It’s hard to gauge the number of musical styles that Gary ‘Mani’ Mounfield has brought to the fore through his work with both The Stone Roses and Primal Scream.
And while he may have stamped soul, funk, reggae, folk, dance and even country styles all over his tuneful indie rock rhythms and grooves, he admits that it is his Irish background that has been essential in playing with the more traditional English style of John Squire in The Stone Roses and Scots in Primal Scream.
He said: “I’ve got the Celtic in me. We (the Irish) feel the folk and country more. John is a good mate but it’s true that we feel music in a slightly different way.”
“We’re more in touch with the folk and it filters through similarly to black music there is a certain soul. It’s an unconscious thing but always there. It’s an unseen force.”
Mani believes that while a unique Celtic presence remains strong in Britain, he feels an autonomous Irish identity is no more.
He said: “The Irish identity is getting lost from generation to generation. It will always be there with the Celtic thing but we have assimilated.”
“We are The People’s Republic of Mancunia no one really considers themselves English. We are made up of many cultures and creeds.”
“My mum and my uncles still speak with the thickest Irish brogue and they have been here about 45 or 50 years why would you change it?”
“They went through some difficult times, you had to work your way up but it makes you try that bit harder. It’s always there, it’s who you are.”
Celtic manager Gordon Strachan recently said he often whistles the Primal Scream song Sometimes I Feel So Lonely after games at Parkhead a revelation the group were honoured to hear about.
Mani, whose roots lie in Co. Wicklow, said: “I love Gordon Strachan. I thought: ‘We are going to have to play a gig at Celtic Park’ when I heard that. Gordon is invited out with us next time we are in Glasgow we are all big Celtic fans.”
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ianinjesi
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:32
COMMENT-BODY:That`s the M8 opened again. Terrible accident this morning.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:37
COMMENT-BODY:Left Winger
That Primal Scream tune, just for the manager.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:39
COMMENT-BODY:TLW,
My brother had told me that Mani was a Celtic man - i also remember seeing him on Soccer am a few years back and he mentioned that he was a Celtic man as well as being a man u supporter. I think his quote was along the lines of "like most of the Manc bands we love our footy and whilst the guys are split between both Manchester clubs most of us love Celtic!" if I remember correctly!
As to his national allegiances I think this wee quote from an interview says it all:
"So, your thoughts on the World Cup?
I'm glad England didn't win it.
Why?
I don't support them. They are a piece of shit. I support the Republic of Ireland"
I also know Bobby Gillespie is a mad Celtic fan.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:47
COMMENT-BODY:TheLeftWinger...
Can you Do the Li
nk thing Re:PS...TSR...
If you can Cheers...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:49
COMMENT-BODY:Bloke 190...
Cheers...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: smc1888
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:51
COMMENT-BODY:Mornin all,
If Hartley doesn't make it I also would like to see Sno given the nod.
Wave after wave,,attack and rattle them.An early goal,,,,,,,,
8.50am and 18degree's on a beautiful San Diego morning.
If Carlsberg did Wednesday's???
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: smc1888
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 16:51
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: half and half
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:02
COMMENT-BODY:We have all read about the scandalous state of Ibrox's Kitchens being infested with sewer flies,beetles and rotting food.
Can anyone come up with a good slogan for a banner regarding this?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: oldtim67
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:05
COMMENT-BODY:Zbyszek asked me,if I was going to BBs before the game to-night,would I look out for a Polish guy who should have on a Legia supporters scarf on.
I've told Zbyszek that I wont be at the game to-night but I would pass on his message to anyone going via BBs.
Seemingly he wrote a great article about Celtic on the Legia Warsaw site about Celtic,and Zbyszek told him to go to BBs before the game,where he would meet up with Celtic supporters there.
So if anyones there at BBs, and you spot a guy with a Polish Flag or scarf wrapped round him,make him welcome.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mr angry
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:09
COMMENT-BODY:half and half
Off the top of my head how about
"E coli worky!"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:11
COMMENT-BODY:Half and half:
"And you wouldn't eat Eggs Benedict"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:13
COMMENT-BODY:No, it's NOT brown sauce!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:14
COMMENT-BODY:I guess Gordon Ramsay will be the next veteran dusted off for action by Walter Smith then? =P
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: half and half
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:15
COMMENT-BODY:hahaha
pmsl guys.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:16
COMMENT-BODY:Why are you all so ugly - is it something in your food?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: half and half
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:18
COMMENT-BODY:ramsey's kithcen nightmares
Why I would'nt sign.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: half and half
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:19
COMMENT-BODY:UGLY HUNS, WELL YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BHOYSFOUR
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:28
COMMENT-BODY:half and half,
how bout "Ranjurs Supporters Trust, new members needed! Only fly men need apply!"
BF
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:34
COMMENT-BODY:The good old, simple approach.
Picture of Ibrox with 'KITCHEN FROM HELL'
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: hoopsIdiditagain
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:40
COMMENT-BODY:Who eat all the Flies
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: possilbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:47
COMMENT-BODY:The guy in charge of the music tonight should play The Fly by U2 just for them tonight.
Righty ho, i'm away to get ready for the match.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TrueTim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:56
COMMENT-BODY:Stats for tonight ref,
Won
Celtic 3 Huns 5 Draw 2
Yellow Cards
Celtic 29 Huns 22
Red Cards
Celtic 5 Huns 3
Penalties
Celtic 0 Huns 2
His last derby match as well. Lets ensure he goes in style and his masonic mates have a good last memory of him.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: stebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 17:58
COMMENT-BODY:news just in...
Rangers have been ordered to remove two michellin stars from their jerseys.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: loumacarisbettingslip
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 18:01
COMMENT-BODY:hello hello we are the e-colli boys
we"re up to our knews in beetle juice
eat us and you"l die
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: hail hail
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 18:05
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They're the finest team in Scotland, I'm sure you will agree,
We'll never give up till we've won the cup and the scottish football league
They come from bonnie Scotland, they come from county Cork,
They come from dear old Donegal and even from New York,
From every street in Glasgow they proudly make their way,
To a place called dear old paradise and this is what they say.
Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They're the finest team in Scotland, I'm sure you will agree,
We'll never give up till we've won the cup and the scottish football league.
There's Fallon, Young and Gemmel who proudly wear the green,
There's Clark, McNeill and Kennedy the best there;s ever been,
Jim Johnstone, Murdoch, Chalmers, John Divers and John Hughes,
And sixty thousand Celtic fans who proudly shout the news.
Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They're the finest team in Scotland, I'm sure you will agree,
We'll never give up till we've won the cup and the scottish football league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TerryO'Neill
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 18:21
COMMENT-BODY:Intaethum
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 18:27
COMMENT-BODY:Terry
Wee man's at the table,last throw.Surely the men picked will pull him thru.
Dont care about the other results this season as long as they are Pumped twice.
The Good People need some Pride back.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: HHBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:00
COMMENT-BODY:Rihgt , I mean right - I’m a bit excited here – all we’ve got to do is win the game, (and then spend hours of complaining afterwards, because of this and tha). I’ll get myself something to eat after the game; I had to start on the grape juice to calm the noives.
It’s 2 -0 Celtic? Why not? But 1st we must score first and then see how we play against a more open minded opponent. In a “normal” game against the Fod we’re winners, which they know. That means they know they can’t compete with our talented players which explains their tactics. To defeat the Fod means to address their tactics. It’s up to you Gordan to get this one right.
This time we have to show them whets what.
BTW I'm so pashed / noives I posted this on the last thread, dear oh dear
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:06
COMMENT-BODY:Hail Hail, the Celts are here,
What the hell do we care,
What the hell do we care,
Hail Hail, the Celts are here,
What the hell do we care now...
For its a grand old team to play for,
For its a grand old team to see,
And if you know the history,
Its enough to make your heart go,
Nine-in-a-row
We don't care what the animals say,
What the hell do we care,
For we only know,
That there's gonna be a show,
And the Glasgow Celtic will be there.
Sure it's the best darn team in Scotland
and the players they are Grand,
"We support the Celtic"
'cos they are the finest in the land.
We'll be there to give the bhoys a cheer
When the League Flag flies,
And the cheers go up 'cos we know the Scottish Cup
is coming home to rest at Paradise
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:08
COMMENT-BODY:3 in a row, the fightback starts tonight.
Mon the Hoops
3-0 the bhoys
Same line up that started against Motherwell.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:16
COMMENT-BODY:Robson first goal scorer
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: HHBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:21
COMMENT-BODY:TNT
If he’s playing :-)
HHB
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:24
COMMENT-BODY:Team has been announced, same team that started against Motherwell. Hartley and Robson in the middle
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tic Talk
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:25
COMMENT-BODY:The holecoli will say a prayer for you.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ignatius J. Reilly
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:26
COMMENT-BODY:Same line-up as Sunday:
Boruc
Hinkel
Caldwell
McManus
Naylor
Nakamura
Robson
Hartley
McGeady
JVOH
McDonald
C'mon the hoops.
2-0 the Bhoys.
Fancy us for a penalty tonight.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: HHBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:27
COMMENT-BODY:TNT
Sorry didn’t know. In that case 2nd goal.
HHB
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:28
COMMENT-BODY:I fancy Wee Bazza getting sent off tonight or am I asking for too much like an unbias MIB?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tic Talk
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:28
COMMENT-BODY:Who`s on the bench? I am glad he is playing the same side.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:29
COMMENT-BODY:Sorry for the Oxymoron - "unbias MIB"
Self-Pedantic CSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:32
COMMENT-BODY:CELTIC (4-4-2): Boruc; Hinkel, Caldwell, McManus, Naylor; Nakamura, Robson, Hartley, McGeady; McDonald, Vennegoor of Hesselink
Subs : M.Brown, Balde, Wilson, Sno, Donati, Samaras, McGowan
Strange choice of McGowan, under 21 rule I guess.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:37
COMMENT-BODY:Great rousing edition of you "Never Walk Alone" coming through the radio.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Lubo
COMMENT-DATE:16/04/08 19:40
COMMENT-BODY:There is a new article posted lads...
Lubo.
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TITLE: Celtic have opportunity to resolve recent paucity against Motherwell
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 4/13/2008 12:03:00 AM
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BODY:
Not so long ago I remember discussing the dangers of complacency before a game against Motherwell, a problem that will not be in evidence in the Celtic dressing room at Fir Park tomorrow. If anything there will, or should, be a few worried men.
I don’t subscribe to the lucky/unlucky explanation of football results; last week Celtic were predictable and easily managed by 10-man Motherwell, so it is perhaps fortuitous that the players and manager have an opportunity to make amends and put on a true Celtic performance tomorrow.
Team selection will be critical. Having brought Giorgios Samaras and Barry Robson to the club in January Gordon Strachan has been reluctant to start them, which I think has cost Celtic points. If both don’t start tomorrow I will be a stage beyond amazed.Labels: Match Preview
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Richie
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:04
COMMENT-BODY:P67
Any word on the state of the pitch? There were rumours earlier that yet another cancellation was possible.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: cardiffbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:09
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67 from last post
Paul67 - i specifically stated that was not a dig at you, but you seem to have taken it as one.
James Forrest for one has been tonight asked was he auditioning for the Express or the Mail , thats not exactly an agreement on his opinions, and in fact is almost as bad an insult as being called a hun
The party line, in my view, and perhaps it wasn't the best choice of phrase , is that as Gordon Strachan was chosen by our board then until they decide otherwise he should be backed and supported.
CQN remains a place where opposing views are allowed, (even Ed's) , spending as much time as I do reading it, (as my wife has often pointed out) I am aware of that. Just not sure they are actually welcomed. Some posters on here are more pleasant to Ed than they are to fellow Celtic supporters, and yes I know Ed is a gentleman, but he is still one of THEM.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malone19
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:10
COMMENT-BODY:I can't see the game going ahead tomorrow, and if it does the pitch will be in an awful state.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Richie
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:10
COMMENT-BODY:James
Erudite reply, as I expected. Thanks.
Have been reading here for years now and look forward to your posts, along with many others, and understand the raw nerve endings at this time. You been hiding?
On Gordon's situation, he is betweeen a rock and a hard place.
Change and fail, slated. Change and succeed, I told you so.
Do nothing and fail, bye bye. Do nothing and succeed....on this one I'll be on here hitting the F5 every 5 seconds!
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:11
COMMENT-BODY:Paul -
I disagree on the luck thing but Gordon needs to experience an unseasonal Epiphany tomorrow if we are to prevail.
With the odd/glorious exception Celtic have struggled in ML1 for almost three sorrowful decades, time for some jhoyful.
Nite all
Celtic 1 Rest of the World didny
WG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: James Forrest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:14
COMMENT-BODY:Reposted from previous:
Bhoysfour:
Totally in agreement with you that Del should have kept his anger in-house, but such is his anger at present I doubt it would have stayed there long. But yes, I wish to God he hadn't done it because there is no way any incoming manager can keep him having undermined this one. So, I don't think he will stay.
As to not singing One Gordon Strachan, at the time I was in total agreement with you and on the few occasions the troops did sing it I thought it was less than full or sincere.
I think this is a measure of the deep misgivings many people have had about Gordon Strachan (there, giving him his due) for a long, long time, and much as it pains me to say this, they were right.
I hate feeling this way. Not since Barnes have we been in this position, where some honest to God soul searching is going on. It seems a lot of people are finding it hard to deal with.
I grew up with two constants in my life during my teenage years and a bit beyond: Tory General Election wins and Rangers winning leagues.
I never would have believed Labour governments which have won landslides could bring me such heartache and inner turmoil, or that a Celtic manager who had won two out of three titles would be a source of my feeling this way.
In the last few weeks I've had to wonder if what's changed isn't me, have I become too used to victory now? Does part of me actually CRAVE the relative comfort of defeat?
I have also wondered if perhaps success has not made me selfish, and I do believe that might be it. I want a Labour government to behave like one and I want Celtic to look like Celtic and play like Celtic, the Celtic I heard about from my father and he heard about from his.
But more, I realise, I think, that mistakes made have made contributed to the present state of affairs, and they were mistakes made in the process, not simply in the here and now and the end result.
When Labour decided winning was everything, they became a lesser organisation. When Celtic's board of directors hired Strachan, we settled for less than what we could get, probably because the best would have cost more money.
And so the sickness has spread. The pain has grown. The solutions have been put off. And I am back to where I started. With the likelyhood of a Tory government in the next election and my honest to God fear that Rangers will emerge from this season not only with a treble but with momentum on their side and a coach who has the beating of ours. There we have a political party which could and should have been cast into the wilderness for all time pulling itself back into power and a Rangers team so skint and bereft of imagination they actually went backwards. And right now they hold all the cards.
Continuing down these roads is the pathway to disaster. And what makes it worse, far worse than anything I've known before, is one unescapable fact:
It didn't HAVE to be LIKE THIS.
That makes me absolutely sick.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: James Forrest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:16
COMMENT-BODY:Steinbusbyshankly:
That's not the way we should be doing business, no, but as the manager does not care what the fans sing then it will do him no harm at all.
Richie:
Thanks mate. I have indeed been very busy! I've been editing my novel like mad, watching Celtic through closed fingers and, of course, work, work, working away!
And drinking. Yes. Lots of that. It's become a neccessity I'm afraid. See "watching Celtic through closed fingers" for details!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:18
COMMENT-BODY:James -
great post there, very pertinent and thoughtful.
Tomorrow I go to battle 100% behind Gordon and the Bhoys
Nite mate
WG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Richie
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:24
COMMENT-BODY:Today has been CQN at its best.
Varied views with very little of the 'party line' talk and personal insults.
And some of the arguments put forward are hard to argue against!
My own tuppence worth is that one of Gordon's biggest mistakes, in my humble opinion, was giving big Mick the captaincy.
Left him with no room to maneouver with a relatively inexperienced player in a key position.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:25
COMMENT-BODY:SFTB,
very pertinent points from the previous thread
"I think he should walk because he does not deserve what he's getting. And I fear for our next man because I fear what we've become.
But, hey, if the worst happens, we're still Celtic fans, right? And there must be something which still distinguishes us from the dark side."
At a time when we were at our lowest ebb the Bunnet came in and rescued us. He implemented a plan and with his and our financial backing we were resurrected. The board DD raised expectations and injected cash due to courting future EPL entry on the back of the costly Barnes failure. We got to Seville and enjoyed fantastic times under MON but it has resulted in a more parsonimous era. We are paying still for those decisions. Was the MON era worth it. You bet it was ? but while nipping the financial bud made sense, to change the emphasis so severely to profits rather than football development highlights an administration bereft of ideas and whose real ambition for Celtic is associated with money and kudos rather than glory. I have to say I appreciate what they are doing and understand how they are going about it but dont know where they are going with it as the last few years incongruent financial returns to actual spend has perfectly illustrated.
So is it any surprise that the machinations of plc´s has alienated a support that is being squeezed as customers. This is one of the main reasons why their has been a change of atmosphere and perception.
I cringe when I hear the response to any deep assessment of Celtic from its employees recently. At a match level it´s statistics and a lecture that I have just seen a marvelous game of football when I know I haven´t. At a club level it´s profits, turn over, wages, income stream and profiles.
What we need to be careful of is accusing everyone associated with Rangers of being in denial when we are in even bigger denial.
It all comes down to the issues of respect as was being discussed earlier. I wouldn´t be surprised if it was referred to in the board room as customer dissatisfaction.
I would call it supporter frustration with the work in progress and the assessments of where we are now. I think; if I could coin a phrase the, support wants more bang for its buck. It´s been well acquainted with better recently and it expects better. Not the same and not worse. To then be told dont complain will result in aggressive tendencies. It´s human nature
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dick Byrne
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:28
COMMENT-BODY:James Forrest, although I disagree with some of your views (particularly re Derek Riordan) it's very good to have you back on the blog. Your debate with SFTB earlier was first class.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: U2_1888
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:33
COMMENT-BODY:Bhoysfour (from previous thread),
Agree that Derek Riordan's comments were ill timed. I also, however, feel that the content and sentiment of his comments were 100% spot on.
Given the choice, I would have Derek Riordan available for selection next season. I would also have him available for selection this season, but someone else has decided otherwise. Unless we are 1 goal down with 5 minutes left, of course.
No man is bigger than the club.
I would suggest that failure to use your best players when they are available, to the detriment of the club, is a more valid demonstration of someone behaving as if they were bigger than the club than what Riordan has demonstrated in his interview.
Simple questions leave me puzzled.
Why was our best central defender not selected during a long period when we couldn't keep a clean sheet?
Why was our left back allowed to have nightmare after nightmare without getting rested or dropped?
Why was Scott Brown allowed to play game after game when he was clearly off form and consistently failing to deliver?
Why was Paul Hartley dropped after his best performance of the season in the 5-1 win at Pittodrie?
Why was Paul Hartley dropped for the next match after two excellent back to back performances away against Spartak Moscow (1-1) and St Mirren (5-1)?
Why was Paul Hartley and Giorgios Samaras dropped after "better than the rest" performances at Ibrox a couple of weeks ago?
Why has Gary Caldwell retained his place despite numerous errors and occasional calamities?
Why was JVOH not rested or dropped when he was clearly unable to hit a bovine animal's back end with a string musical instrument?
Why has the "best finisher at the club" not been given a chance to show it during a period while everybody else is struggling to locate the bovine animal and the forementioned musical instrument?
It is totally bewildering. No, it's worse than that I think.
One or two of these decisions are bewildering.
All of them combined amount to negligence.
We have someone who is failing to manage the players, to manage their performances and, as a result, is failing, in my opinion, to manage Celtic.
Donati - no.
Hartley - yes.
Caldwell - no.
Balde - yes.
Naylor - no.
Wilson - yes.
JVOH - no.
Samaras - yes.
If all the 'nos' are 'yesses' and all the 'yesses' are 'nos' I will guarantee we will not win.
When the whistle blows I shall be standing up for the Campions and singing support of the team - all the way. I shall not vocally abuse the manager or the players and no boo shall utter from my mouth against anyone wearing the hoops.
C'mon the hoops - give us something to go for on Wednesday night.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:34
COMMENT-BODY:Sir Paul
Whatever the composition of team that Mr.Strachan selects,tomorrow, will be accepted in it's ENTIRETY... in good faith by, my good self...
As being, the most feasible one,that could be fielded ,under the prevailing set of circumstances.
For you see,I am of the unalterable belief...
That the Celtic Manager, whomsoever he be,is the man on the spot.
Therefore, his team selections shall always be viewed by me, as the best team selection that is available to represent us... for who am I to know any better?
I always delegate authority...especially, in cases where I have not the slightest knowledge or expertize.
The Management of a Soccer Club certainly qualifies,most definitely, as being such a case.
Kojo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BlantyreKev
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:39
COMMENT-BODY:Paul
What exactly is "the stage beyond 'amazed'"?
Is it astonished? Or does that come after perplexed and before astounded? Where exactly would you rank flabberghasted? Personally I don't think dumbfounded would rank all that more highly than staggered, but 'surprised' would be the thin end of this particular wedge with bamboozled or bewildered most definitely at the thicker end. Thunderstruck has to be the daddy of them all though, but I don't think you were intimating that as a potential state of mind, were you?
I'll certainly be stupefied if Giorgios sits this one out, especially on that pitch where we will have to go long.
Now how would you describe that pitch? Boggin'? Mingin'? Quaggy? Soggy?........
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Richie
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:46
COMMENT-BODY:A mire of Quag?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: U2_1888
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:48
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo,
Kop out.
If Henrik Larsson was available for selection and Gordon failed to select him while we were losing games and not scoring goals, would you be so passively supportive of the manager?
At what point do you have an opinion of your own on the player selection?
You are flying a flag of convenience.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:50
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear friend Richie..
In making the appointmet of Mick to be the Celtic team Captain, I wholeheartly agree with your stated opinion.
I am on record, as claiming that move by Mr.Strachan was a total disaster in the making...one that our Manager would live to regret.
It is well known, that traditionally, the team Captain is ... UN-DROPPABLE!
You are spot on,pal... it has turned out to be... a disaster that is rapidly turning into...
A CATASTROPHE!
Kojo.
Yer pal... who likes yer thinking.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 00:59
COMMENT-BODY:U2
As I have stated...clearly and succinctly...
I never second guess the Manager...any Manager..on the Matter of Team Selection...
I bow to his superior knowledge.
He knows of the ALL the current exigencies that are extant,which heavily influence the selection process...and he takes all of that information,to which I or even your good self...are most definitely NOT Privy...into consideration, whenever he sits down to compose his team sheet!
Makes a wholelotta sense to me...
Doncha think?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: awalkacrosstherooftops
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:01
COMMENT-BODY:evening all..can only concur that the blog has been great reading today..pity about the mudslinging last night tho..poor stuff and certain parties should stay off the sauce methinks...
anyway fir park sunday..well hopefully the manager will get wise a bit tomorrow and play samaras and robson(centre mid) if we go down,lets do it with a bit of fight not the gutless nonsense of the last few weeks
regarding one of the previous threads about getafe and similar clubs signing policy another contributory factor could be the work permit situation in the uk..it may be easier for a spanish/portuguese club to sign these players than a uk club..maybe one for mcgrain/celtic first..
as for getafe..would have cata diaz here tomorrow as celtic first would verify..
free the other madrid one...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ~Kevtic
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:05
COMMENT-BODY:U2
On your list of "Whys?" you omitted Naka.
~
Where is Sean South?
Keane v Sven yesterday; if I was chosing a Celtic manager from these two it wouldn't be Roy!
~
Early team news - CQN Exclusive:
Boruc
Hinkel Balde McManus O'Dea Wilson
McGeady Lennon Hartley Robson
JVoH & Skippy
Based on above team, comfortable 2-0 win Goals JVoH & Skippy (as usual when we managed to score)!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: CanajunBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:06
COMMENT-BODY:Amigo Kojo,
Yes indeed too long since we chatted.
Well, on our debate about the manager's culpability, let's just say that I might be wrong......but then again so may you. For every Celtic fan there's a different opinion on the state of the team, but united we all are in our love for the club.
Tomorrow we'll see if "real men" (copyright GS), turn up or just plain boys. Somehow I think we'll see some steel.
Hail, hail
CB
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: awalkacrosstherooftops
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:10
COMMENT-BODY:kev the mib mite spot 12 players if we went with that team...mind you no different to what we are up against every time we play the F.O.D
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: U2_1888
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:18
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo,
If John Barnes was still picking the team would you have the same passive, no opinion, massa-knows-best approach??
If you have no opinion you can't be wrong.
You also can't be right.
Nightynight.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Richie
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:25
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Richie
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:27
COMMENT-BODY:U2
Surely one of the worst examples you could have chosen. Did John Barnes refuse to come out for the second half against ICT? In a game where the team we had on the park should have skated it?
Not saying John Barnes was blameless, but the team on the park have to do the business. That's what they're paid for. Handsomely.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Richie
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:43
COMMENT-BODY:Anyhoo..
I don't think that there is a black and white scenario here.
Our failures of late can be put down to The Board, The Manager, The Players, The Establishment, and even The Fans.
Look back through this blog and you'll find eloquent (not always) arguments for any or all of these factors.
But we should be able to put forward theories and suggestions without getting personal with anyone other than The Establishment. IMHO.
Give them both barrels.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ~Kevtic
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:46
COMMENT-BODY:walkacross
Well counted. Lenny can't play he was just a bluff.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: macjay
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:48
COMMENT-BODY:KOJO 00.59
Dead right
Spot on.
Perfectly correct.
On the money.
As far as coaching is concerned,
Those who can,do.
Those who can`t, post on C.Q.N.
[Apologies to G.B.S.,I think!]
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:51
COMMENT-BODY:I attended a birthday party for a famous Drummer Man last night who 36 years ago had months to live do to Alcoholism...The Humility of the Man was Humbling...
Alcoholisim tainted the lives of 3 of the British Isles greatest ever Soccer players who had everything life has to offer...Except Life itself...
To suffer from a Mental Handicap that slowly takes your soul...Can be soul destroying for these unfortunates loved ones...
The man shook my hand as i left last night...If we all had Humility being Humble would be a lot Harder...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: awalkacrosstherooftops
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 01:53
COMMENT-BODY:kev never spotted lenny..just counted 12...
dyslexic csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BHOYSFOUR
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 03:27
COMMENT-BODY:James Forrest,
Thanks for the reply all of your points are well taken.
I have been feeling sick since the Rangers game and last week was a compounding of the previous one.
I do not agree with shouting down a manager of our club in any manner.
U2,
You are correct in every way regarding the support of our manager players and club, and may it continue until they have closed the door on Paradise.
Hail Hail
BF
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 03:53
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: VALEBHOY
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 04:04
COMMENT-BODY:'mon the Hoops
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 04:12
COMMENT-BODY:If you have a sofa - hide behind it now, because here comes season 93-94. The year of bucket seats in the Jungle, Lou Macari and, of course, Wayne 'Bertie' Biggins. And if those Three haven't got you reaching for the pills then read on...
The departure of manager Liam Brady in October 1993, a mere twelve games into the league season, lit the fuse. Discontent had spread during the previous months, and the board had done nothing except fuel this with a series of empty gestures designed to placate the masses, notably the Cambuslang fairy story. Endless reams of nonsense, littered with the phrase 'Green for go!' appeared in the View in a futile attempt to convince the fans that the board had the Cambuslang situation under control.
Many supporters remained unconvinced simply because they were boycotting the View. With a backdrop of a debt of £10 million, and an operating loss of £2 million, and a customer boycott in full swing Dr Michael Kelly chose this moment to announce that the bank was 'not uneasy' with the current state of the club's finances.
Emphasis should definitely be put on the word 'state'.
The resignation of the manager chosen by the board to take us in to the 90s put the seal on it. The board had failed in every conceivable area; the team were sub-standard, the stadium was a national joke, the fans were boycotting in the thousands, and you had more chance of catching a Celtic - related story in the financial section of the papers than anywhere else.
The search for Brady's replacement would involve hunting high and low, down the highways and byways of Stoke. For that was where former Celtic hero, now talismanic manager, Lou Macari was based. The word that he was The Chosen One emerged almost as soon as Brady fell on his sword. Whether or not this had any bearing on what happened next is open to debate.
Brady's assistant manager Joe Jordan took training on the Thursday morning. Once he'd finished that he cleared his desk and resigned. He said it was because he had been hired as an assistant to Brady, and felt it would be wrong to step into his shoes. Others felt that he was put out by the fact that the board hadn't appeared to have even considered him for the job.
Whatever the truth of this story the fact was we were now on our third manager in three days, as Frank Connor was asked to take charge. Incredible that Connor, who had been fired by Davie Hay in 1986, should now find himself in charge.
To top off the perfect end to the perfect week, it was AGM time! Yes the annual shooting gallery, when the board stumble through several hours of serious abuse, with only David Smith having the faintest idea of what all those numbers meant. That year's event was enlivened by the introduction of some court injunctions to the proceedings. Under the rules of the injunction only fully paid shares could be used for voting, thus reducing the power of the board. During the summer Fergus McCann and his people had been busy. They had travelled far and wide to meet every shareholder they could, no matter how small their holding, and asked for permission to use their vote as a proxy. Thus they arrived at the AGM far stronger than the board ever expected.
In a true sign of the times around 70 people were in attendance at the AGM. Several hundred, meanwhile, were demonstrating outside. Although, in purely voting terms, the board remained in place after the meeting, they were alarmed by the unexpected show of strength for McCann.
Football. Remember Football? Connor's first game in charge was at home to Dundee the following day. Team matters seemed almost irrelevant, but it was worth noting that Irish winger Paul Byrne made his full debut (he had previously come on as a sub at Perth). Prior to the game was mayhem - outside the main entrance the stewards and had to make safe passage for the directors and there was a large demonstration with many fans having made large banners protesting at the way the club was being run (i.e. straight into the ground). Many of the banners were barbed references to Michael Kelly's time as Lord Provost of the city, when he championed the Glasgow's Miles Better campaign. 'Celtic's Miles Worse' was the gist of the message.
The game was played in front of a crowd of less than 17,000. Around 1,000 of these were Dundee fans. The rest sang nothing but 'Sack the board' for the duration of the game.
The match itself was an entertaining one - shock, horror and disbelief after some of the garbage we'd endured so far. Dundee took the lead after debut boy Byrne ran 60 yards to make a lousy tackle in the box, but thanks to fine headers from Creaney and McGinlay a league win was registered.
But really who noticed? We all knew that this season was already a wash out. The really important business of the season would take place in the boardroom.
The following game was played at Easter Road, and again Connor's bhoys had to come from behind, Gerry Creaney scoring with a spectacular shot from the edge of the box after a fine move involving McStay and Gillespie.
Two days later the Evening Times ran a story with the headline 'The Club I Love Could Die!'. Nice understated stuff. The originator of this quote? Kenny Dalglish, then manager of Blackburn.
Embarrassingly enough the next NTV asked the question 'What would we give for him as manager?' Oops. Careful what you wish for, you might get it!
Just to pile the misery on, Maurice Johnston returned to Scotland, although he had by now retired from football signing, as he did, for Hearts.
The next game for Frank Connor was the one that he will, surely, bore his grandchildren with forever. It was a UEFA Cup tie against Bobby Robson and Sporting Lisbon. On the face of it these two teams shouldn't have been on the same pitch, but Connor managed to convince his team that they could win. Specifically he told McStay to stop attempting to run the whole game from defence to attack, 'Just get your passes in' was his advice. The Maestro tore them to bits.
After the game Robson confessed that he'd been forced to put two markers on McStay in an attempt to stop him. Pity his team mates weren't good enough to take advantage of the space. We managed one goal, again from Creaney, but in the end Pat Bonner had more work than any one was comfortable with. The omens weren't good for the second leg.
Before our next fixture Lou Macari signed on as Celtic manager. Despite a modest turn around in results, and the backing of the dressing room (Peter Grant would later state that everyone in the dressing room would have had Connor for manager) the board felt that a grand gesture was needed to appease the fans. Apparently signing a man who walked out on the club as a player, was famous as a manager for his negative tactics, and had been charged with placing bets against his own team in the FA Cup was just the ticket.
To some he was, curiously, the ultimate hero, as the crowd at his testimonial in 1984 demonstrated. Others noted that he was the player picked out in the Campbell/Woods book 'The Glory and the Dream' as the perfect example of the mercenary footballer. He certainly liked to play to whatever crowd he was faced with; when Stoke had drawn Manchester United in the cup he had stated that United's was always the first result he looked for on a Saturday. Curiously, this story had changed by the time he became our manager.
At the press conference announcing his arrival he casually remarked that he hadn't asked the board how much money he would be allowed to spend on the team. Hacks stopped writing, tape recorders stopped recording, and several dozen jaws hit the floor in sheer astonishment.
Taken from NTV...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: syllawhowasmince
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 04:22
COMMENT-BODY:i think gordon has been given a tough hand. i think he has had us playing above our level for a while now. i don't think he's been able to buy the players he wants and has had to make do with a fairly mediocre bunch of players. there are many that gordon has little faith with but has had to try and get them through tough times. i agree that many feel he has made crucial mistakes in team selection and subs but gordon sees these players every day. i think the players availabe make it very hard for him.
other than boruc and mcgeady ( and occasionly the naka of last season) who do we have that would ever make it into a favourite celtic team. none of them cos they're mediocre
more or less that's it , i can't b bothered explaining more
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: VALEBHOY
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 04:25
COMMENT-BODY:Long time technophobe =
long time lurking.
Scene : Fir Park away dressing room this afternoon 5 minutes before kick-off.
WGS: I am Gordon Strachan.
Aiden McGeady: Gordon Strachan is 7 feet tall.
WGS: Yes, I’ve heard. He kills men by the hundreds, and if he were
here he’d consume the Huns with fireballs from his eyes and bolts
of lightning from his arse.
I am Wee Gordon Strachan, and I see a whole army of my countrymen here in defiance of tyranny.
You have come to fight as free men, and free men you are.
What will you do without freedom? Will you fight?
Donati: Fight against that? No, we will run, and we will live.
WGS: Aye, fight and you may die, run and you’ll live. At least a while.
And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to
trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one
chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take
our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom?!
Alba go bragh!
I'm just glad we don't need to go to Falkirk on the last day of the season
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: syllawhowasmince
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 04:31
COMMENT-BODY:welcome valebhoy
i enjoyed your first post.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: syllawhowasmince
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 04:40
COMMENT-BODY:another thing, if gordon had a real choice in buying the players he wanted, do you really think he would have chosen the players he has ( other than naka and hinkel-inspired and boruc-luck, to find him first but quick thinking to get him signed up)
maybe s brown
i really think gordon has performed miracles with a very limited bunch of players.
he has made some mistakes but his hand is limited.
and please don't mention deeks as he has done nothing to merit a place
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 05:00
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic Win Away in Europeb
Celtic in the 90s
Following Celtic's win at Aberdeen the team travelled to sun soaked Georgia (not the US state but the former Soviet republic that was in a complete state) to play Dinamo Batumi in the Cup Winners Cup. The social climate of the place was such that the phrase 'war torn' featured in almost every newspaper piece prior to the game. Fans were advised by the Foreign Office not to travel due to safety concerns. Chic Young was being encouraged by the fans to travel for the same reason. And so it was that we all missed the opportunity to see Celtic's first away victory in Europe for nine years - and that was against Shamrock Rovers. The last decent away win was 13 years previously in Amsterdam.
Now here's one of these occasions that really makes you feel the SFA doesn't like Celtic very much. We played Batumi on the Thursday, UEFA having split the tournaments up in order to maximise TV revenue; the UEFA cup would be played on Tuesday, Champions League on Wednesday and Cup Winners Cup on Thursday. Clearly the clubs playing in the Cup Winners Cup could be at disadvantage given that their fixture would only be two days away from the next league card. The journey back wasn't exactly a shuttle trip from London, the players only returning to Glasgow in the small hours of Saturday morning having been on the move for most of the previous day, yet Celtic were obliged to play a game against Motherwell. The club had asked for, and been refused, a delay of 24 hours in order to recover from the journey.
Despite everything, it all started off quite nicely. The fact that it was the first league game in the new stadium gave everyone a lift and O'Donnell scored a cracking goal, but by the last 20 minutes it was obvious that the players were dead on their feet. They conceded an equaliser and wound up hanging on for a point. Now, of course, it's standard for teams playing on a Thursday to have their games delayed to the Sunday, but this only came in to being after it had cost us a number of points. When it came to another team being hampered by these circumstances the league rules were immediately altered. Infuriating to say the least, although nothing compared to what lurked just over the horizon.
After we had slain the beast from Raith in the League Cup the draw had paired us with Rangers at Celtic Park. What a chance this was. Not only could we knock them out the cup and therefore have a great chance of the trophy, we could also make them fear Celtic Park again. The feeling was that we could certainly do it.
The lead up to the game, however, was anything but smooth. Basically, John Collins had decided that this was his last season in Scotland and given that the Bosman rule had just come into force the English clubs were hovering, hoping that Celtic would cash in on the player while they still could. Whilst the player himself seemed to be playing well through it all the fans' perception of him plummeted. If he was leaving we just hoped he'd go with more than one winners medal. Tuesday seemed like a good way to ensure that.
In the event a lot hinged on the man in the middle - Jim McCluskey. Already a hate figure amongst the Celtic Park faithful thanks to his lenient (to say the least) treatment of Hurlock in the early part of the decade he was about to cement his reputation as a less than fair referee.
The game started well from our point of view. McStay was clearly charged up for it and we had the most of the play. Midway through the first half the Maestro picked up the ball and twisted away from Gasciogne who gave chase. First he gave a tug on McStay's shirt before forcing his left arm over the Celtic player's shoulder and elbowing him in the face. The referee immediately blew the whistle, awarded the free kick to Celtic and approached the Englishman. But rather than show a red card (the rule book punishment for such an infraction) he let him off with a ''Quick word in the ear.''
One player who did wind up in the ref's book was Charlie Miller. He also managed to commit another 5 to 10 fouls during the remainder of the game but remained on the park. McCoist, too, got himself involved in an incident that had nothing to do with him (even running some 25 yards to get amongst it and attempting to head butt a Celtic player). No punishment. Can you guess which three huns combined to score the only goal of the game?
As if that wasn't bad enough Goram had one of those nights where nothing was going to get past him. With any other keeper on the park McStay would have had a hat trick. To round off a thoroughly terrible evening Andreas Thom injured himself making a rash tackle and had to be stretchered off. It was hard to take, especially just as we were beginning to look like a team again. Final score, 1:0 to Rangers.
Before the next league game the Collins saga really blew up. Middlesborough were the most interested team (it would have been a real blow to the ego if he'd gone there) but they were keeping their powder dry for now. Tommy Burns, on the other hand, was not so patient. Infuriated by what he considered to be a media campaign orchestrated by Collins' agent he dropped him for the trip to Hearts. Tynecastle hadn't exactly been a happy hunting ground for us in recent seasons ( then again where had?) but we seemed to be making life especially difficult for ourselves with Collins dropped and Pierre and Thom out injured. In place of these players came Brian McLaughlin, Chris Hay and Andy Walker.
This game again illustrated how far we had come since the previous season as we took Hearts to bits. We were two ahead within 10 minutes, both goals coming from an unlikely source in the tiny shape of wee Brian McLaughlin. First he mopped up after the keeper had failed to hold a McStay shot from the edge of the box and then scored a real beauty. Gathering the ball at the halfway line he ran straight through the Hearts defence, even nutmegging Dave McPherson before clipping the ball over the goalie. In the second half Walker added another two and real gubbing had been handed out. Literally as well, as Peter Grant was sent off for throwing a punch instead of a point.
Following the game TB gave an interview to Gerry McNee explaining his position on the John Collins situation; typically it was full of passion for the club and a complete disbelief that someone could want to play elsewhere.
The second round of our European tie with Dinamo Batumi was an enjoyable experience. Four goals were slotted past the Georgians as we went through 7:2 on aggregate, with the stars of the show being Simon Donnelly (who scored a fabulous long range effort) and Brian McLaughlin (who set up Thom for the opening two goals). It set us up nicely for the weekend when we had the chance for revenge on Rangers at Celtic Park.
But this time we had no complaints as we meekly went down 2:0. Hell, we even let Alec Clelland score. Gasbag scored the second.
Despondency about that result quickly evaporated after the draw for the next round of the Cup Winners Cup. We were drawn against Paris Saint Germain, at that time one the form teams in Europe. In the previous two seasons they had reached the semi final of both the UEFA Cup and the Champions League. They had lost two of their top players (Ginola we've already discussed and George Weah who joined AC Milan), but they were still a formidable outfit.
Nationally the Scottish game was getting a lot of coverage, not just thanks to the Sky deal. The arrival of Gasbag across the way had turned the spotlight to the perceived sectarian divide in Glasgow (can't be too much of a divide really; Celtic had supporters from all faiths and colours. Rangers... well what can you say?). Channel 4's take on the matter was a documentary called 'Football, Faith and Flutes'. It wasn't really designed to alter anyone's preconceived ideas about Glasgow and its residents who watch either of the big two. The Celtic fan featured was such a committed supporter that he watched the games on Sky in his local pub and spouted out absurdities like 'I'm Catholic, I have to hate Protestants,' while the featured hun had a home made tattoo on his inside lip and simply regurgitated things he'd obviously heard in his local lodge. Cutting edge journalism it wasn't.
The managerial response to the Rangers defeat was positive at least; Jackie McNamara Jnr. was bought from Dunfermline for £650,000, a fabulous piece of business. He immediately slotted in a right back and looked as though he'd been a Celtic player for years. In particular he struck up a great partnership with Simon Donnelly, who had been playing on the right hand side of midfield now that Thom and Pierre had taken the front two positions. Jackie made his debut at Brockville (oh the glamour of the top division), but he wasn't the star of the show on the night. That honour went to John Hughes, returning for the first time to the ground where he made his name. Typically he scored the only goal of the game to win a hard fought three points.
The following Saturday we Finally won a Glasgow derby, although it was only against Thistle and it wasn't exactly an entirely convincing 2:1 win. Pierre scored the first after neat play from Donnelly and Collins wrapped up the game with a nice free-kick, although Thistle did cause some tension by scoring just before the end. Truth be told it could have been pretty grim if Thistle's new Liverpudlian forward Rod McDonald hadn't been the worst finisher since Jim Melrose. Twice he was left with only the goalie to beat, twice the wee boys of Barrowfield had a nice shiny ball to play with.
Rod (who had already been 'outed' as a Celtic supporter in the press when it was revealed that King Kenny had been his hero as a kid so naturally he preferred Celtic) would go on to book his own place in football history that season when Thistle took on Rangers at Firhill; As the players made their way into the dressing room Rod, as was his wont, CROSSED himself as he left the pitch. So far so normal, happens in most countries week in week out. However, a hun in the crowd saw this and went mental (so far so normal) complaining to a policeman. And here's where it gets really wacky. The Policeman actually takes this loony seriously and goes to the referee's room with this complaint. The referee then calls McDonald into the dressing room and awards him a Yellow card!!! Not only that but in the second half Rod fouls Gasbag, gets a second yellow and hence a red, to the confusion of everyone in the crowd (except the Neanderthal who started the whole thing). Now whenever there was an incident of some kind at a football game in Scotland that wasn't too nice, crowd trouble that kind of thing, the pundits would bemoan the fact that this event would be broadcast all over the world and bring shame on to the game. Ordinarily of course they are talking complete cobblers, (do the good people of Lima really care if there was a fight at Pitoddrie?) but you'd better believe that the world's press was most interested in the backwards wee country at the northern end of Europe where the Refs book you for CROSSING yourself and the national association sides with the ref. That did catch the eye of the footballing world. Couldn't make it up could you? Of course it goes without saying that when Rod was dismissed the game was tied 1:1 and Rangers ran out 2:1 winners against the ten Thistle men who were sure to keep their superstitions and rituals well to themselves from then on. The MIB on that shameful occasion was Jim McGilvray. He retired shortly afterwards on the pretext that SFA regulations were cramping his style, but later admitted to the Scottish Sun that Gasbag should indeed have been sent from the field that afternoon but he didn't want to be the first to do it and thereby 'start a riot'. Celtic's paranoia right enough!
Back at Celtic Park we were about to royally shoot ourselves in the foot against Hibs. We murdered them. A team has rarely been so outplayed. They barely touched the ball. Except, of course, on the two occasions when they scored (they had a grand total of three shots during the entire game). It was galling. Celtic's football couldn't be faulted but rather than play a final pass we seemed to prefer making another pretty passing pattern.
With Rangers sitting on top of the league and PSG looming large on the horizon we had to start getting a bit more clinical.
Taken fromNTV...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: VALEBHOY
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 05:03
COMMENT-BODY:Sylla...
Many thanks for your reply.
Shooting off on a tangent.
I have fond memories of Sylla for one reason.
Like yourself I'm sure, I was at the UEFA Cup second leg against Valencia at Paradise.
If memory serves me correctly it was the hardest possible draw we could have got after losing out on qualification to the next phase of the Champions League despite beating Juventus on the last night.
Anywho, Valencia, despite being described as the Aberdeen of Europe (Ebbe Skovdahl era) by the experts in the Scottish media two seasons previously, confounded critics, well in Scotland anyway, by appearing in the next two Champions League finals.
Celtic had played well in the Metsalla, and managed to come away with a respectable 1-0 defeat with a certain Big Rab being singled out as man of the match (SHOckeroonie)
Of course, Valencia were oozing quality, (I think Mendieta probably had left by this point) but they still had the boy Gonzalez up front and a certain animal at the back - Carboni.
You will all realise by now, that this is a long winded version of this story, but I recall with great delight Momo coming on in extra time at the end of an epic European night and going into a 50-50 with Carboni and doing him!
Nae kidding!
Carboni was raging, so were all his team mates.
Sylla was having a wee laugh to hiMself and so were Lennon and all the other winners we had at the time.
Moral of the story - we need to get a winning mentality back in there. Strong characters - winners.
BACK OFF THE SOAP BOX
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 07:59
COMMENT-BODY:Morning ghuys and ghals -
I know some of the lurkers have been enjhoying the beer reviews so here are two exotic ales from yesterday's session -
NAMYSLOW ORIGINAL PLUM BEER 4.0% ABV
Brower Namyslow, Poland ESt. 1321
Had to do a double-take wi the name, thought it was McManyslow. The brewery in question is one of the oldest in Europe.
The programme blurb:
With a light ruby colour, this unusual beer has a distinctive character. Its pleasing, sweet and aromatic flavour is balanced by a gentle bitterness.
This ale is where a traditional English mild meets super-charged Vimto. I really can't say much more. Very sweet, I bookended the session on this stuff but not one you could drink exclusively all night.
The next one fitted in nicely wi yesterday's brassiere debate:
ECAUSSINNES COOKIE BEER 5.% ABV
Brasserie d'Ecaussines, Belgium Est. 1999
The programme blurb:
This light amber, top-fermenting ale is brewed using Kentish [Goldings - WG] hops and Pilsener malt and then flavoured with ginger and cinnamon, from the Belgian cookies added, to create a truly impressive beer.
This was the one I'd been waiting for but the travel was better than the destination. I expected my tastebuds to take a doing but, whilst never bland, the ginger and cinnamon was understated and a third of the way through the pint a memory. I had another one before returning to Pedigree 6 and finishing with the plumb number.
One of the Teser's duty managers gave me a list of the forty ales they had selected from the Festival Fifty. By my reckoning, going into the final two days, we have nine remaining in the cellar.
An extension is therefore INEVITABLE !
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 08:54
COMMENT-BODY:Quiet here, pre-match nervosity ?
Dontbratt -
pablo should be in ML2 around noon. I'm free anytime.
JohnInmanCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BigYinMilan
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 09:30
COMMENT-BODY:Two additions to the list of U2_1988:
1. How could Celtic expect to win by two goals in Barcelona with one forward?
2 In the same match, I still cannot fathom under what combination of circumstances Steven Pressley would be have been used as a substitute.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 09:49
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 09:51
COMMENT-BODY:Clinton Woods has as much bottle and self belief as most of the current Celtic team
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 09:52
COMMENT-BODY:WG
good morning
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 09:57
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr -
good morning to you sir, are you bound for The Motherland ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: st.anthony
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:11
COMMENT-BODY:As always the level of debate on this site is excellent even when discecting the pain of our current situation.
However let me make two conscise points.
Firstly, the majority of supporters will back the manager and the team until the (bitter) end.
Secondly, the manager will go in the summer whether by force or by choice. The jury have made their mind up and the verdict is guilty.
The prospect of 10,000 unsold season books and the lost revenue will prompt the suits to act.
For my own mind I have no sympathy. Had WGS built bridges during the good times them there would be a reserve of goodwill form to fall back on. As it is there is none because he made no attempt to give any in the first place.
These last few days have found him floundering in the papers issuing stats and more stats to anyone who would listen.
Just as patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel in this footballing example it is stats that is his last refuge.
He goes.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: celticrollercoaster
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:24
COMMENT-BODY:3 points today Gordon with style, pls (oh and also 3 goals for the bhoys). Prove the doubters wrong. Show us you can make team changes, formation changes!! Do you still have the dressing room on your side? The attitude of the players will be big here today. Anymore dropped points and poor performances really means your desk is moving closer to the door (and if you have not listened over the last couple of weeks or opened your eyes, it really is deserved!)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: st.anthony
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:30
COMMENT-BODY:celticrollercoaster,
He hasn't changed formation for 3 seasons, what makes you think he'll change now ?
A striker for a striker, midfielder for a midfielder.
Deckchairs, Titanic, anyone ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: st.anthony
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:30
COMMENT-BODY:celticrollercoaster,
He hasn't changed formation for 3 seasons, what makes you think he'll change now ?
A striker for a striker, midfielder for a midfielder.
Deckchairs, Titanic, anyone ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:31
COMMENT-BODY:Forty-Five Years Ago Today
Scottish Cup Semi-Final
Celtic 5 Raith Rovers 2
1-0 Divers (10)
1-1 McDonald (16)
1-1 HT
2-1 McKay (51pen)
3-1 McKay (57pen)
3-2 Gilfillan (64)
4-2 Chalmers (70)
5-2 Brogan (84)
Att - 35,681
Bhoys :-
Haffey, McKay, O'Neill, McNamee, McNeill, Price;
Chalmers, Murdoch, Divers, Gallagher, Brogan.
From The Celtic Football Companion:
"Only when McKay scored with two penalties in the space of 6 minutes in the second half did Celtic fully imprint their personality on a game devoid of excitement and finesse. Celtic should surely have put the game beyond doubt by the interval but for wanton disregard of their opportunities."
Plus ca change.....
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tinytim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:38
COMMENT-BODY:Syllawhowasmince.
Your asseration that he is unable to buy the players he wants is propbably true.
It is the same for every manager ,but a select few.
You are also correct you point out that we have a lot of mediocre players.
Here's the rub.
We still should be capable of beating Hearts and Aberdeen in home cup ties.
We still should be capable of beating a 10 man Motherwell at home.
We still should be capable of scoring atleast one goal in four OF fixtures.
He has had more resources available to him than his domestic competitors.
He is failing ,and by quite some margin.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:42
COMMENT-BODY:Forty Years Ago Today
Scottish First Division
Celtic 5 Dundee 2
1-0 Lennox (4)
2-0 Hughes (9)
3-0 Stewart OG (18)
3-1 Scott (38)
3-1 HT
4-1 Hughes (53)
5-1 Lennox (58)
5-2 G McLean (64)
Att- 41,500
BELOVED :-
Simpson, Craig, Gemmell, Murdoch, McNeill, Brogan;
Johnstone, Lennox, Wallace, Gallagher, Hughes.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: madeira bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:47
COMMENT-BODY:i hope Riordan stays with Celtic for 5 more years and never plays, because like Bobo, the longer he doesnt play the better he is.
Theres no myth to Riordan not getting a game, there are a few reasons, some are facts some are opinions, and the main two can be found clearly in what he bleated to the newspapers the other day. Bleating incidentally for which he should never get near the first team again. To complain is one thing, to do it publicly at a time where we have the slimmest of chances of getting our 3rd league title on the bounce.
Riordan doesnt play because:
1. Gordon expects his attacking players to defend. Aiden learned this and has improved immensely under Gordons reign. Derek Riordan doesnt think this is part of his job.
2. He has a dreadful attitude with a huge ego.
that is all. Its not voodoo.
Singing one Derek Riordan can only be explained in one of two ways:
1. You want to sing it because hes such a great player, when has he shown this for the reserves?
2. You want to sing it because it undermines the manager you dont like, even though by definition this will undermine the team. Shameful.
Heres to 3 points, a few goals and a bit of optimism before playing tfod.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: celticrollercoaster
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:52
COMMENT-BODY:St Anthony
I know, it's called blind optimism before the game. Anyway, I was just talking to your cousin, St Jude and she assured me today that there would be changes.
Either that or a lost cause!!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: st.anthony
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:53
COMMENT-BODY:On this day 1977.....
Motherwell 3-0 Celtic
Celts only needed a point to win the league and the unfortunate Andy Lynch scored 2 own goals.
We therefore had to wait until the next game and clinch it at Easter Road with a1-0 win against Hibs, Joe Craig having his moment of glory.
Mind you Lynch's day in the sun was to come three weeks later.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:58
COMMENT-BODY:1977 team
Baines, McGrain, Lynch, Stanton, Edvaldsson, Aitken;
Conn, Glavin, Craig, Dalglish Burns.
Att - 13,820
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: celticrollercoaster
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 10:59
COMMENT-BODY:St Ant
I was at that game hoping as a wee kid to see us win the league(may be my first memory of becoming league champions.
Lynch's goals were amazing. I am sure he lobbed Roy Baines (yes now there's a name from the past!) with a deft chip and the other rocketed off his knee. Poor Baines never had a chance!
So if McGhee picks Baines for his keeper and we have wee Lynch up front we will be okay for the 3pts!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: derbyshirebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:00
COMMENT-BODY:James Forrest at 20.57 12/04/08
Only saw your reply this morning.
I’ll accept your point but suggest you’re playing semantics. I felt you implied you were speaking for fans collectively and you seem to repeat that when you say “I am glad you feel the manager has respect for the fans, and I hope you are right. A growing number think his time is up.” Clearly you are linking his time being up with a lack of respect for the fans. Please don’t try to excuse the bully boy expressions of “Strachan GTF” with anything like similar provocation by Gordon Strachan. The people who mouthed those obscenities are well worthy of a Kestrel and Devil Dogs description. They wouldn't know respect if the devil dog got up and bit them. All in my humble opinion of course.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulster-Celt
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:12
COMMENT-BODY:i hope naylor,naka and skippy are dropped.
it is going to be tough today, we need to be strong.
wilson in
sno and hartley in the middle
robson on the left
mcgeady on the right
jan and sammy up front
jan first goal celtic 2 nil
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:19
COMMENT-BODY:WG...
I was at that Raith Rovers semi final and it was played at Ibrox.
Rangers also won their semi final 5-2 (v Dundee United at Hampden)that day too.
However, the day will do down in infamy as the date on which a certain Maurice Judas Johnston came into the world.
Odd that CELTIC were playing at IBROX that day with the home team nowhere to be seen.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Hazybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:23
COMMENT-BODY:If'd I'd had thousands of people singing, "Hazy GTF" I'd probably be pretty rude about them too (although they'd probably have a point!).
Don't really have a problem with that - it's back to the take-it-if-you-dish-it-out thing.
What I will have a problem with is if we see the same team line-up this week as last. My heart just sank when I heard the team sheet. It was all so predictable - the team, the performance, the result.
To be honest though, I'm on a knife-edge in terms of my opinion of Gordon at the moment. Half of me says that his previous two seasons have earned him a crack at redeeming himself next year.
But isn't that what he's been doing with this team? - giving them a chance to right the wrongs - and look where that's got us.
I finally uttered the words "Strachan must go" last week but that was in the aftermath of the game when all was black.
Title or, more likely, no title, the next few of games are all important. I think Gordon has a chance of being here next year but he sure as heck needs to start showing us why.
Starting today.
Mothers 0 Celtic 6 (Samaras (3); Boruc (3))
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:25
COMMENT-BODY:I'll be off to ML2 by noon.
I'll text Winning Gemmell and try to guess the secret phrase that allows you entry intae the Wishaw Clique.
Front running guess so far is "I'm paying."
Suggest a new song for today's match:-
Me and you and a Devil-Dug named Boo"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:28
COMMENT-BODY:Gordon/SFTB -
cheers ghuys, must get this show on the road - hope we get a fair crack of the whip from Mothers Little Helper
Hail Hail
WG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:30
COMMENT-BODY:WG
not today
even i am not allowed to drink and drive
BTW
i should not be driving anywhere at this time
late night /early morning watching the boxing
4 hours sleep and way too much brandy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ian_in_budapest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:32
COMMENT-BODY:At 13/04/08 10:38, tinytim said…
We are capable of all the things you listed - we simply haven't managed it in reality.
For the record, I agree with you that WGS is failing, as is his coaching team, the players, the board and, dare I say, the support. Our primary aim is to win the SPL and at this point in time that objective looks unlikely. None of the aforementioned parties can claim to have succeeded if we lose the league and given the atmosphere at Celtic Park I would suggest that the supporters have been one of the biggest disappointments this season.
By the way, does your boss threaten to fire you every time you fail to meet your objectives? Or does he sit down with you to work out went wrong and put together a plan for getting back on track? Reagardless, which of these two approaches represents a better approach to management?
If WGS does not feel up to leading Celtic into next season, or the board feels that he is not the best person to lead Celtic, then it will be time to appoint a new manager. Until then, by any measure, he has done enough in the past three years to merit one more season at the helm. Of course, continued failure to achieve objectives would place his job in jeopardy just as it would for both you and me.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:33
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67,
If Samaras and Robson don't start i actually think Gordon want's someone to make the decision for him to walk:)
Seriously though, Wilson and Balde or O'Dea should also be included.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ian_in_budapest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:35
COMMENT-BODY:Has Derek Riordan ever played a good game for the Celtic first team? Ahgainst Hibs over Christmas he was dreadful and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would be supporting his inclusion in our first team line-up.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: derbyshirebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:36
COMMENT-BODY:Please everyone
Currently we have a championship to play for which though unlikely is not impossible to win but perhaps more importantly we have two matches against Rangers where it is essential that we put down a marker for next season. Both issues demand that the Celtic team has a concerted, united, unreserved, unequivocal support behind it, a support worthy of those green and white jerseys, a support aware of the history and tradition of a group who do not lie down willingly and have their tummy tickled.
I ask the Celtic support to demonstrate unity in the face of adversity and suggest that the best possible way of beginning that process is by showing some respect for the Celtic manager, whoever he may be.
Whatever anyone thinks of Gordon Strachan accept please that until these issues are decided anything less than 100% support for everyone associated with the club is not support for Celtic. The psychological impact of constantly feeding this "We don't like Strachan" mindset will impact on your support for the team. That's human nature. Put it behind you and support the team till the issues are decided. Whoever is picked they're reppresenting Celtic. That means they deserve concerted, united, unreserved, unequivocal support. Let's give it to them
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:37
COMMENT-BODY:WG
Myspace message for you.
cheers
U
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:37
COMMENT-BODY:Roberto Matinez for Celtic
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:42
COMMENT-BODY:WGS
with BBJ as assistant manager
BTW
agree with you on WGS selection front
his performance last week was like a pee`d off employee wanting the sack
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:45
COMMENT-BODY:regarding riordan, gordon strachan might have said he was the best finisher, but that doesnt necessarily make him a good player. kris boyd is arguably rangers' best finisher, but he only plays against gretna and dundee utd. he's benched for the remainder of the games, coming on for last 10mins if rangers need a goal. it's generally considered that boyd isnt a great player either. but boyd, for all his faults, does not go to the press and say "walter smith is talking rubbish"...
riordan shouldnt be considered for celtic first 11 or indeed the bench. best finisher or not, he's not the type of character we need right now.
with regards formations, 4-4-2 is the best formation known in football. it is the most attacking, while allowing defensive stability/cover.
celtic play with attacking, overlapping fullbacks meaning at any one time we can have 2x fullbacks, 4x midfielders and 2x attackers attacking the opposition goal. that's 8 of the 10 outfield players attacking the goal. in times of defence, the full backs, centre halves and midfielders mean you have 8 players available for defending.
playing 3-5-2 means you always have 3 defenders defending, reducing the attacking options by one. the wide players are akin to fullbacks therefore while we would have 7 attackers (2x strikers, 3x midfielders, 2x fullbacks) we'd also just as defensive with 3x centre-halves, 2x fullbacks, 3x midfielders = 8 players.
so, what would you use? a formation that allows 7 attackers and 8 defenders, or the one we're using now, which allows 8 attackers and 8 defenders?
it's scoring goals that's our problem. if we score 5, then who really cares about the one the opposition score from their one shot? gordon strachan, in my opinion, is playing the perfect formation for an attacking team (excluding a 1-0-9 formation, of course)
support celtic, support the players, support the manager.
we're gonna win the league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:49
COMMENT-BODY:Pfyar,
The team today should be
Boruc
Hinkel
Balde
McManus
Wilson
Hartley
Robson
McGeady
Nakamura( be tempted though to put GC in the centre with Hartley Robson on the left and McGeady on the right.
Samaras
McDonald
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:50
COMMENT-BODY:ian in budapest
thank you for your comment on the last thread
i did read what you said, and was able to understand that in terms of bigotry you mentioned that there was a specific differentiation, between both sets of support.
some celtic fans however, feel increasingly uncomfortable with the ecumenical shepherding of both sets of fans, this coming together of convenience, labelling or branding, weighs much more heavily on celtic football club, than it does on our neighbours.
for example some of my english friends that thought that 'celtic only signed footballers of one particular religion' i.e. catholics, you know the kind of things i mean.
regardless of context we may well all be 'jock thamsons bairns' in the clear evening sky over budapest, but back home at the business end with the marching season approaching, a probable rangers treble, and potential quadruple it doesn't always feel that way.
ironically in between reading CQN, I took the dog a walk and en route could here "hallo hallo" being bellowed into the Glasgow air, fortunately a good half mile from my chosen doggy walkers path and my own particular fenian blood. make no mistake In the main part, they hate us much more than words could ever express, anywhere, let alone on this good site, and to say I hate them as much, is offensive, to me and the Celtic ethos 'in the main part'. if you find their hatred the same as our hatred of them, then you are looking in a warped mirror.
you tell us that celtic as a club and the directors are responsible for leaving behind
our old ways, i was convinced our manifesto was crystal clear in 1888 our declarations and brother walfrid's intentions were unequivocal, and impossible to
misunderstand. i am also pretty sure that since then the celtic support have stuck with it again 'in the main part'
your post is like many other posts on this site, to chastise celtic fans who have a different opinion from you. likening them to the rangers support was below the belt, beyond the pale, not the popular view and in my opinion grossly unfair.
the original subject for your post, the present debate and widely held views on the suitability, competence and credibility of the present head coach is valid, not only on celtic quick news but everywhere there is a gathering of more than one celtic fan. however, depending on that view and how it is demonstrated regardless of content if its negative in relation to GS it more often than not, becomes in the eyes of other celtic fans 'abuse'. then we have more opinion and certain other posters pitch in with condescending, systematic abuse of the original implied abuser, and so on.
hail hail
p.s. i agree with your latest comment on derek riordan, opinions eh.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:52
COMMENT-BODY:madeira bhoy
you are corrct re Riordan`s performances at times when he has gotten into the team
however WGS has two sets of standards for players
1.... a very forgiving standard for those he likes...i`m afraid personally
2.... a very unforgiving set for those he doesn`t
how else can one explain why Donati/Naylor and Caldwell have had so many games
whereas
BB /Riordan and previously Tommy G
have been marginalised
Favouritism is a very bad trait in a manager
anyway
no more infighting today
there is a game to be won
HAIL HAIL
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:54
COMMENT-BODY:Pfyar,
Steven Pinnear stalling on making his move from Dortmund on loan. Celtic just missed out on him when he decided to go to Dortmund instead of us. If i was GS i would go for him again.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:55
COMMENT-BODY:and now for my opinion on bobo and o'dea...
playing 4-4-2 and bobo, therefore making him accountable for 50% of the central defensive unit is far too much for a player who is too one dimensional. we've seen him win a tackle, then backheel it straight to novo. we've seen him win a header then wander forward watching the ball only to see it fire straight back over his head. he's too erratic and unrealiable. he'd need another 2x CBs to cover him (see my arguement for not playin 3-5-2).
regarding darren o'dea. everybody at celtic loves him. everybody in home farm (my local team) still love him. he rips the pee out of everyone, he loves to wind people up and that his mouth never stops. but everybody to a man and team mate will tell you that when he steps onto the field, his mouths firmly shuts and barely opens for 90mins. he's so quiet on the field, that his team mates often dont know where he is. that's not a great thing for a fellow CB to be feeling as he has attackers running at him. no one doubts his talent, but if a player who accounts for 50% of the defensive unit goes "missing" in the eyes and minds of team mates, then that's too great a risk. for all caldwell's faults, at least you know he's playing!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 11:58
COMMENT-BODY:WGS
I agree but would also drop McManus
the defencive triumverate of he /GC/LN have been awful lately
won £50 quid at the bookies yesterday...
bet you that £50 that they all play
and you can add to the mix Donati
i have never been waiting on a Celtic team selection with as much trepidation in my life
a repeat of last week with the exception of SB and he is looking for his P45
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:00
COMMENT-BODY:WGS
your namesake is not to betrusted siging anymore players
wouldn`t give him my son`s pocket money to spend
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:01
COMMENT-BODY:Dub Tim,
I would rather have quiet effective defender than a rent a quote, i want interviews with the papers at every opprotunity in effective defender sorry defenders.
Mark my words the vultures for O'Dea are circulating. The next Shay Given is about to be witnessed.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: madeira bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:02
COMMENT-BODY:At 13/04/08 11:52, pfayr said…
madeira bhoy
you are corrct re Riordan`s performances at times when he has gotten into the team
however WGS has two sets of standards for players
1.... a very forgiving standard for those he likes...i`m afraid personally
2.... a very unforgiving set for those he doesn`t
how else can one explain why Donati/Naylor and Caldwell have had so many games
whereas
BB /Riordan and previously Tommy G
have been marginalised
Favouritism is a very bad trait in a manager
Or maybe,
however WGS has two sets of standards for players
1.... a very forgiving standard for those who train hard and try to improve
2.... a very unforgiving set for those who dont.
Which would normally be considered sensible management.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:02
COMMENT-BODY:I think I agree re team selection today vis a vis GS's stubborness. Every manager has blind spots - good/great managers can rise above these when the chips are down.
I begin to wonder if there is a marked difference between picking the team that will do the job for you OR picking the team you HOPE will do the job for you.
U
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:03
COMMENT-BODY:dub tim
even as a confirmed GC malcontent i have to agree he is far from our worsed player right now
however your summation of BB/DO`D may be correct but surely they must be better than "hinge and bracket "
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:06
COMMENT-BODY:uly
i hope we have a better spectical to enjoy than last week
still depressed about it despite your excellent company
my mind has wandered back to it through this week ..as you said "mystified "
BTW still mystified
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:08
COMMENT-BODY:madeira bhoy
hard trainers don`t necessarily make good players
and bad trainers don`t necessarily make bad players
it`s what is done on the park that counts and his hard training favourites are not doing right now
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:11
COMMENT-BODY:wgs,
o'dea will be at celtic for a very, very long time. he doesnt want to go anywhere and no-one at celtic want him going anywhere. he is coming out of his shell and learning. he's still young enough, but should we have players still learning the basics of their trade in front of 60,000 people, where one mistake, especially this season, will set him back years in terms of confidence and development?
gary caldwell is a plyer i like. and strachan likes him too. he does on the field what strachan tells him to do. if my boss told me to do x, y & z and i did that, he'd be happy with me. if i did a, b & c (which is what gravesen was doing) then he'd be mighty hacked off. that's why caldwell is playing.
and as for mcmanus, the guy is trying his best. he takes knocks, physically and verbally, but he dusts himself down and goes about his business as normal.
strachan once said of mcmanus that you would not guess he was the inexperienced, young defender such was the way he talked experienced defenders through a match. mcmanus, as opposed to o'dea, never shuts up during a match. watch him today, he's forever tlaking, encouraging and cajoling.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:12
COMMENT-BODY:dub-tim;
It's amazing how many of us differ in our opoinions on certain players and what they bring to the team: That's what makes it all so interesting.
Bobo may well be becoming a better player with every passing week he DOESN'T play, but cmon you make Caldwell \ McManus sound like worldbeaters and Bobo a prize clown....."he's too erratic and unrealiable".
The big guy wins headers where neither Caldwell nor Mick would dare put there head in and whilst yeah he does not pass like McStay in his prime, show me what Caldwell or Mick are doing right now that make you think they are so superior. A'deen \ Mwell \ Gers they gift goals as well as Bobo could...
Interestingly Bobo's return saw our first away clean sheet to end that awful away run was with Bobo playing?!?
Sorry mate but all the CB's we have are all flawed in some way or other but I'd rather play BOBO right now for his sheer presence and drive than the present incumbants who are imposters. Mick is never a captain and that's shown week in week out when assaults on Aiden are unchallenged by him (just watch Bazza down Ipox way for what he brings as a captain...aherm...I'll now go wash my mouth out with soap)
O'dea? give the guy a proper run of games before slating him.....stepping into the celtic 1st eleven might just rendor most of us speechless until we're fully accustomed to the pressures that come with the job and realise what it takes....I've seen the young fella give mouthfulls of verbals to other players at times when the've deserved it, so he has a gob, it's armed and know doubt he's able to use it.
I'm sure others will agree \ disagree with both our thoughts but how Mick \ Caldwell are revered by some is an absolute mystery to me.......
Today we all get 1million % behind teeh team and hope we can get some momentum going and make TFOD earn the title the hard way .....if they can!!
hail hail
M'well 1 Good guys 2
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:13
COMMENT-BODY:I was hearing rumours about Mark Schwarzer as a potential goalkeeper. If that's the case then no more funds.
Never really like Schwarzer as he mkes some clangers. I just seen the one against Spurs yesterday.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:15
COMMENT-BODY:PF - I know, and we both knew that the Sunday's result was going to happen before it did which made it all the more harder to bear.
I think your £50 is safe although I hope it's not.
Off to visit my mum's before the game - will check in later.
U.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:15
COMMENT-BODY:Let's not pussy foot here.
Depending on team selection and result, we may be without a manager this evening. He must start with Samaras and we MUST win. I'm off to the game.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:22
COMMENT-BODY:wgs
agree, on schwarzer who has already stated publicly
that he has discussed an offer from celtic, but is yet to decide.
makes magnus hedman look world class
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: oldtim67
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:23
COMMENT-BODY:the debate about extending the league should be opposed vehemently by Celtic.
In 1919-20.Celtic took part in a ten game extravaganza in April,here are the dates and scores.
April-3rd St Mirren 2-0.
April-5th Partick th 2-1.
April 10th Aberdeen 5-0.
April 14th Albion R 5-0.
April 17th Motherwell 0-0.
April 19th hibernian 2-1.
April 22nd St Mirren 2-2.
April 24th ayr utd 4-0.
April 26th Dundee 1-1.
April 28th Airdrie 1-0.
Celtic played 10 Games in 26 days,an average of a game every 2.6 days.
I don't know if thats a record for Celtic,but it should be.
If Celtic can do it ,surely others can.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:26
COMMENT-BODY:pj dali,
i'm not saying that caldwell and mcmanus are world beaters or that neither are flawed. all i'm trying to argue is that of all our centre backs they are the ones who can be most trusted in those positions.
i know bobo played in the clean sheet away from home, but it wasnt a one man performance. nor has he played in any of the clean sheets since; the defence with the best defensive record in the league.
caldwell is the best passer of the ball (short, mid, long range passing) of all our CBs. and he actually can defend as well. unless we want bobo lumping the ball aimlessly out the park, surely having someone such as caldwell is a better option?
mcmanus talks and supports his team mates through the game. he can tackle and he does stick his head in where it hurts. the scars will testify to that. neither bobo nor o'dea do that. pressley does, but he's finished.
in my opinion, mcmanus and caldwell are the two best players for their respective positions.
if we had john terry and jamie carragher and caldwell and mcmanus were playing, then i'd agree with you and question why they are playing. but we dont have those players. the two best we do have are playing.
of course, this all just my opinion.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:29
COMMENT-BODY:i meant neither bobo or darren talk their team mates through games, i know they tackle / head the ball... was getting carried away with myself!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: derbyshirebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:34
COMMENT-BODY:Re Mc Manus I watched the Ibrox game on Setanta when they had Terry Butcher on. He was extremely effusive in his praise for Mc Manus and particularly liked his will to win. Since he'd just spent the week with him with Scotland and since George Burley had made him captain it made me wonder again about opinions when we read what's often written here about him.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: andycolo
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:35
COMMENT-BODY:I haven't been here for a while and therefore don't know the context but I am staggered to find a debate about the inclusion of Drek Riordan. Any arguments about his qualities are irrelevant in my view. His press utterances last week, at a time when the club and the manager were vulnerable, revealed him as a snivelling coward. I understand he is now training with the youths and while that is probably the best place for him I hope he is ostracised even in that company. If his stunt was to force a move then I believe his actions have guaranteed that only the rock bottom or truly desperate will come in for him now. All this for a guy who was not a regular starter for Hibs under their last two managers!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: James Forrest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:35
COMMENT-BODY:Mark Schwarzer ???
Dear God, someone tell me that's a joke ........
30+ players signed by this guy already in three seasons, and the vast majority of them useless. What's it going to take? Forty plus signings? Fifty? How long until the people defending this guy say enough is enough?
Last night I kept it reasonably civil, and reasonably rational. Now my every sense is screaming that he is dragging us down.
How much further down do we need to get?
I'm told that George Boeteng, who was recently linked with a move to Celtic (at 32), has been on TV or radio today slagging Strachan's management style.
I guess that rules HIM out, then!
If Schwarzer is representative of the "building" for next season this man is preparing for then SURELY the writing is on the wall.
He has to go. Soon.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:37
COMMENT-BODY:dub-tim;
appreciate the reply and agree each of us has our own expectations of players (as does our manager...)
BUT I don't think Caldwell is the passer some make him out to be.....of the two I recall Mick pinging a long ball for McDonald many games ago and he's done that a few times (not enough accurately though).....something I've never witnessed Caldwell doing as he's too often down the flanks giving the ball away cheaply.....
Mick for me claps his way through a game and does not support his team verbally in making sure the ref' knows EVERYTHING is questioned \ debated by our club captain. Lenny was what a captain should be loud and proud!!
I guess we'll agree to differ.
That's what makes it the beautiful game and why beer was invented to allow us to talk long into the night ( early afternoon) to convince ourselves we are better football managers than those in the job :-)
N-joy the game mate and may the good guys win......
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:39
COMMENT-BODY:Dub-Tim,
Either you are posting as Gordon or you know something we don't.
Quite scary to think that given what's happening to our team that you acutally think we could win anything with these two at the back. Artur Boruc being behind them has stopped even more criticism of the two.
If it wasn't for Boruc then they two wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning. Think December showed what the defence would be like without Artur.
Think it's time Gordon started to listen to his keeper on where it's going wrong at the back. It's down the left side where Mick and Lee play.
I'll actually give you something on Caldwell. Out of him and Mick i would probably go with him. He's does organise quite a bit, and having watched him closley he tends to cover his partner at the back rather than concentrate on his own area and game. Covers McManus big time. Big Mick's positioning is highly dodgy sometimes.
In the end of though i would still maintain two new centre backs will need to be bought or one plus give Darren a cahnce to make the position his own. Everybody else has been giving their chance.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: patnevinspen
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:41
COMMENT-BODY:No Scott Brown today - let's hope that makes a positve difference!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:42
COMMENT-BODY:james forrest et al,
dont believe what's in the press with regards potential signings. it suits the press to link us with less illustrious players and rangers with world beaters.
already this season we have been linked with geoff horsfield while rangers were linked with pizzaro. both eaqually unlikely.
come the end of the season, and if strachan's still at the helm, i expect us to be linked, in the press, with burnley, watford and carlisle players, while rangers will be linked with the cream of europe. remeber, the signing of jarosik came out the blue. there was no "exclusive" story 3wks prior.
i dont believe the schwarzer story any more than then i believe rangers will sign schevchenko.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tinytim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:42
COMMENT-BODY:Can anyone please confirm what George Boateng said about Mr Strachan?
He was on Sky sports this morning,on the goals on Sunday show.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dü the Hüsker
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:46
COMMENT-BODY:I'm going to give up reading this blog, so many of the contributers are desperate for Celtic to fail just so they can say "I told you so." It brings me and my team down.
How can they complain about the manager and players' attitude when they themselves are quitters with a serious bad atttude towards those that represent us?
There's still a league to compete for, 'support'ers should be the provervial 12th man. Customers on the other hand can always take their business elsewhere.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:46
COMMENT-BODY:dub tim
all the exclusive rangers signing stories are always wrong
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the right rev. david hay (preaching pure football)
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:47
COMMENT-BODY:just read comments from GS regarding our recent performances.
plenty of shots at goal...eh?
winning plenty of tackles...eh?
winning lots of headers...eh?
stato...stato...stato
im bored wee man.
your team is rank, your system is rank, your continual waving of pieces of paper is driving me insane but i love celtic football club. someone please help.
met big hesselink in paris on thursday...lovely big chap.
and djibril cisse on friday, tried to smuggle him oot the hotel in my holdall but he wisnae havin it.
come on the celts
at least start to make them work for the title
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gary67
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:48
COMMENT-BODY:I thought it was Jussi Jaaskelainen we were after when Artur leaves. Better keeper than Schwarzer, available on Bosman.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:49
COMMENT-BODY:I hope we do see Naylor being dropped cos he's not played well enough for way too long with Wilson brought back in as LB with Robson out left and Aiden on the right.
Now the middle pairing of Hartley and ???????
Big pause here cos I simply don't know who I'd play in there??
Donatti...not sure he's up for teeh fight or teh surface of M'well
Sno...maybe he should be given a chance
Caldell def' mid role ?? as someone suggested allowing Bobo and Mick at the back?
NAKA? away from home on a poor surface? maybe not
Maybe Gordon is having the same dilemna picking his team......it's his team and he'll see the effort in training.
or we could go;
BOB \ Mick \ Caldwell
Hinkel \ Hartley \ Aiden \ ?????? \ Wilson
Samaras \ Mcdonald
And surprise everyone even the players......
Sadly I suspect we'll see the same guys from recent weeks with Brown's ommission being forced through suspension.
A win please for the good guys
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:49
COMMENT-BODY:I hope we do see Naylor being dropped cos he's not played well enough for way too long with Wilson brought back in as LB with Robson out left and Aiden on the right.
Now the middle pairing of Hartley and ???????
Big pause here cos I simply don't know who I'd play in there??
Donatti...not sure he's up for teeh fight or teh surface of M'well
Sno...maybe he should be given a chance
Caldell def' mid role ?? as someone suggested allowing Bobo and Mick at the back?
NAKA? away from home on a poor surface? maybe not
Maybe Gordon is having the same dilemna picking his team......it's his team and he'll see the effort in training.
or we could go;
BOB \ Mick \ Caldwell
Hinkel \ Hartley \ Aiden \ ?????? \ Wilson
Samaras \ Mcdonald
And surprise everyone even the players......
Sadly I suspect we'll see the same guys from recent weeks with Brown's ommission being forced through suspension.
A win please for the good guys
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:51
COMMENT-BODY:pj dali,
beer... mmmmmmmmmmmm....
like i say, until we have two better players, i'll support the players in possession of the jerseys.
the good guya will wallop m'well today. mcmanus first scorer ;o)
wgs,
december showed us what is was like paying with brown in goals. if the young lad fox played we wouldnt have lost those goals against ICT, and i include the penalty in that.
incidentally, i agree that centre halves are needed, but until that happens i'll support those already there.
prediction:
m'well 0 - 4 celtic
we're gonna win the league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:51
COMMENT-BODY:davie hay
you`ve summed it up for me
haven`t given up ..but this is murder
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: darich67
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:53
COMMENT-BODY:I watched the Sporting Lisbon game the other night and while i could never ever cheer a goal scored by the FOD i am glad they progressed since it means additional games. I also think it'll be more dmoralising getting to the semi to be eliminated rather than an earlier round.
But i wondered something after watching the FOD progress.
Would the fact that the cardigan has guided the gers to a European semi cut WGS some slack?
Everyone can claim that the gers are rank rotten all day long but no team, no matter how bad gets to a euro semi being as bad as they're made out.
Hopefully they'll now be eliminated since they're missing captain unbookable (in Scotland anyway) and Kevin Thomson for the first leg.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: derbyshirebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:54
COMMENT-BODY:Today I'm in France. This afternoon I'll be visiting friends. I use the word friends advisedly since they have no interest whatsoever in football far less in Celtic so I will be attempting to appear interested in conversation whilst my mind continually drifts off to Fir Park and what's happening there.It'll be a long day till I get back.
When I get back however my first port of call will be CQN for the live match comments. I'll be hoping for good news.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:56
COMMENT-BODY:Du the Husker;
Not trying to sound funny or rude, but are you not actually chucking the towel (by way of this blog) in by saying you're not coming back simply because you disagree with some opinions posted.
In the last 48 hours I've read some very passionate statements from those who back our manager 100% and equally passionate arguements against him.......it's a blog, it's about opinions and it's addictive reading a lot of the time.
Can't see how some get all biscuit arsed with some text on a page.......
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 12:59
COMMENT-BODY:I think it's important to remember that a lot of people, myself included to a certain extent, have two voices - one which I post on here and one which I would call my pals in the pub voice.
I don't know anyone (And I mean anyone) who was smiling when they heard last Saturday's selection or was unsure of the possible outcome.
I save my worst vitriol for the pub. Because there's more than enough unrelated parties willing to have a pop at Celtic.
As for the manager arguments and criticisms - you can't put a level on it. You can't have a notion of what acceptable and what is unacceptable criticism. You have to allow it all and be damned to a certain extent.
I sat with PF last week and we witnessed a ridiculous amount of individual supporters (and not just younger ones) questioning the actions of our manager. None of these guys took up the chant. But they were completetly unhappy with the fare on display. And there was, worst of all I'm afraid, a helpless acceptance of what was coming to pass.
That's what hurts me most.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gary67
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:02
COMMENT-BODY:Pitch is in a disgraceful state (just shownon Setanta), waste of time playin Naka on that
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:04
COMMENT-BODY:Ulysees Mcghee;
You some it up very well....better than I could.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: geebee1978
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:05
COMMENT-BODY:darich67...
Rangers aren't poor. They're not particularly pleasing on the eye and we could debate all day about how many of their players would get into our starting eleven but the fact is Smith IS a far better manager than Strachan and has moulded them into a TEAM. Their success this season proves it and it shows the importance of a top manager. The comments on here regarding Rangers smacks of complacency and arrogance and has run through the club for the last two years from the board to the support. Let's get it into our heads bhoys and ghirls - Rangers are better than us and continuing this pig-faced denial will only compound the situation. We need to do something NOW.
Remember the galvanising effect Smith had last year when he cut our lead by half and beat us twice? They put a marker down for this season and the momentum carried them. Maybe it's time we took action, realised Strachan is a dead-man walking and brought someone in now rather than wasting a pre-season to do it. Ed says he hopes Strachan is here next season.....says it all I'm afraid.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulster-Celt
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:13
COMMENT-BODY:boruc
hinkel
naylor
caldwell
mcmanus
naka
hartley
robson
mcgeady
mcdonald
jan
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:15
COMMENT-BODY:Team is
BORUC
HINKEL
CALDWELL
MCMANUS
NAYLOR
NAKA
HARTLEY
ROBSON
AIDEN
JVoH
Scott MCD
no more comments from me......disappointed in the line up and hope I'm wrong.
3 badly needed points for the good guys PLEASE!!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gary67
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:15
COMMENT-BODY:good news that hartley & robson are playing but what does the dutch bollard & naylor need to do to get dropped?? if we want to sgn samaras for next season we ain't goin the right way about it
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ian_in_budapest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:15
COMMENT-BODY:At 13/04/08 11:50, bournesouprecipe said…
Bournesouprecipe, I would like to clarify further what I said. First of all, bare in mind that my post was a reply to dub-tim saying:
"see, we're not like them. i just wish we didnt turn on our manager, in a way they did with le guen."
I said that many Celtic supporters are exactly like them, meaning that they are unfairly turning on our manager. Do you think that those Rangers supporters who wanted rid of Le Guen, or perhaps more similarly, Alex McLeish, were any less justified in their views than those wishing to see the back of WGS? I think not, in my mind there is a clear parrallel. I thought that the treatment of Alex McLeish in particular was dreadful and I recall many, many Celtic supporters echoing that view at the time. I suspect that some of those same people are now lining up behnd calls for the removal of WGS. Is there a difference?
As for the hatred issue, I talked of Celtic supporters as a collective, meaning me, you and every other Celtic supporter. In my opinion, we have all been guilty of hating them. I didn't discuss whether our hate was justfied, nor did I delve into degrees of hatred, I merely pointed out that it has existed for a long time and it is still with us today.
I believe that our hatred of them has been a factor in maintaining the status quo - The Old Firm. If we want to get rid of this tag we will need to do it by changing ourselves - and particulalry in our relationship to them - because we have no direct control over them (We can only change what we control). Personally, I thnk that many outsiders are beginning to get the picture that we are different from them when it comes to our behaviour in foreign places. However, and let's be honest here, how many of us truly wish that Rangers supporters would follow our example? Can we all place our hands on our heart and say that it saddens us to watch them behave like animals in Barcelona and Lisbon? I think not. We need them to behave the way they do because it serves our sense of self-righteousness and justifies our contention that we are different. And as long as we are different we can can rightly claim that we should not be associated with them. However, this is only a single dimension of difference and I'd suggest that it's not the one that forms the basis for the Old Firm tag.
I did not tell anyone that Celtic as a club and the directors are responsible for leaving behind
our old ways - I said that "the Celtic Club and its directors are arguably the ones most responsible for encouraging our support to move on". In my opinion, that comment leaves enough room to acknowledge the considerable work that other groups have undertaken in bringing about a change on this front. However, let me repeat my question, if it had been left to the supporters alone, does anyone really believe that we would have made such huge strides in this respect?
My attack on the critics of WGS is justified in so much as many of those concerned have shown little humility in their attacks on the man. I have read few balanced or informative assessments of the problems that WGS and his coaching team have encountered this season. For example, few of the critics in question have acknowledged, or elaborated on, the success of Walter Smith and Rangers, preferring instead to paint them as a lucky team, just in the same way they described WGS when his teams were in the ascendancy. I assume that they would incorporate a roulette wheel in the recruitment procedure for a new manager since luck seems to be one of their primary criteria for a successful manager and team! Wasn't Alex McLeish also a very lucky manager?
I rarely hate Rangers these days but I do feel sorry for many of their supporters, whether it be the decent ones like Edward who forever have to point out that they are different to the ones that tar the his club's reputation (I know many Rangers fans of this ilk, decent people with hopes and aspirations just like you and I) or the ones who do the tarring. Largely the former comprises people who were born into biggoted families and were raised to hate Catholics, Fenians, Irish Republicans and of course, Celtic supporters (just to mention a few). I guess it is their fault that they were born into such a situation. I guess it is their fault that the teachers, the leaders and others in positions of responsibility throughout Scotland have allowed the dirty illness that is sectarianim and biggotry to fester for so long. Bare in mind, it could easily have been you or I.
Some time ago I read Martin Luther King's "Strength to Love". He writes at length about loving your enemy and the injuries that hate inflicts on both those who are subject to it and those who dish it out. On the latter he writes:
"Hate is just as injurious to the person who hates. Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man's sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true".
If we are better than Rangers supporters, we are certainly not so much better that we are magnaminous when winning, more gracious in defeat, and more capable of acknowleging their achievements. You may be right about the question of degree but I think that we still share many of their human flaws.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:16
COMMENT-BODY:gary67......agree 100%
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:16
COMMENT-BODY:uly
£50 was safe right enough
at least the italian stallion isnae playin
Naylor FFS
Naka and Aiden on that tattie field
i despair ..i really do
INTRANSIGENCE
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:17
COMMENT-BODY:James Forrest
Some excellent stuff on the previous thread, have to admit i agree with most of it.
Can I ask you a loaded question - do you think we will win today?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:18
COMMENT-BODY:AND I FORGOT
JVOH
WTF has Samaras got to do to play
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: James Forrest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:22
COMMENT-BODY:Itzallova:
I am greviously concerned about today. The team may have changed (a little) but his failure to play Samaras is seriously worrying, and the tactics, of course, will not have changed one iota.
McGhee could have picked his own team and tactics after last weeks game, knowing how little our approach would change.
That TERRIFIES me.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:22
COMMENT-BODY:gordon strachan cant win cane he?
unless he plays a 442-cum-343-cum-451-cum-352-cum-424 formation and plays 24 players from the start, excluding donati, he will be accused of getting it wrong and being stubborn.
just support celtic, please!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: James Forrest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:26
COMMENT-BODY:Since when has it NOT been supporting Celtic to be concerned for our team?
The people who are criticising Strachan are doing so for very, very, very good reasons ..... the league table foremost amongst them, our recent results, the demoralisation of some of our playing staff and his attitude towards his critics being others.
We support Celtic wholeheartedly, without equivocation. Supporting Celtic, however, and supporting a manager who has presided over a shambles which is turning into a crisis, are not the same thing.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:27
COMMENT-BODY:James – share your concerns mate – sticking with the same old tried and untrustworthy will be his downfall.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:30
COMMENT-BODY:james forrest
thanks ..saves me from replying
it does my head in...that some consider reasoned criticism to be some form of treacherous sedition
for the record I AM A CELTIC SUPPORTER ...NOT A WGS FAN...BUT A CELTIC SUPPORTER
MON THE HOOPS
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ian_in_budapest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:30
COMMENT-BODY:At 13/04/08 12:35, James Forrest said…
James, are you the same guy who used to write the quality posts on here?
Those 30+ players signed by WGS in three seasons, of whom the vast majority you suggest are useless, got us into the last 16 of the Champions League twice. Twice achieving something our club had never achieved before.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ianinjesi
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:33
COMMENT-BODY:Donati not even on the bench but Balde is.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:36
COMMENT-BODY:james forrest,
everyone is entitled to their opinion, but gordon strachan is infinitely more qualified to manage celtic than you or i, and a number of other managers/ex players mentioned on this blog over the last while. you can have your opinion, of course, but implying that you are more correct than someone like gordon strachan (ie, playing your favoured player over someone who has scored 1-in-2) isnt constructive.
i appreciate concern - i'm concerned - but i'll support celtic in whatever formation they take, and whatever the line up. strachan takes the training 5 days a week and knows the players he has inside out. we see them in the papers and for 90mins or less during a game.
for that reason alone, i trust strachan implicitly with whatever line up he selects and in whatever formation he wants. after all, he is the manager of celtic.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: James Forrest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:42
COMMENT-BODY:How many of the 30 plus would you defend? I put their names up some days ago.
Mark Brown. Useless.
Gary Caldwell. Please ......
Steven Pressley. A disgraceful signing.
Du Wei. One game. Clyde. Enough said.
Paul Telfer. Sadly missed?
Mo Camara. Who?
Adam Virgo. He was outstanding in Milan. Oh wait ......
Dion Dublin. Started 3 games.
Jeremie Aliadiere. Pointless signing. Benchwarmer, nothing more.
Gravesen, Sno, Killen .... why?
Zurawski. One good season.
Doumbe. Eight games in two years. Another standout in Europe .... oh wait.
Kenny Miller. Eight goals in 38 games. Not a bad ratio. For a central defender.
Nearly half of them right there. Most of the others are part of the present squad, the one which Rangers have beat four times on the bounce, and many of whom are roundly condemned on here and elsewhere game after game.
I said last night on Strachan's European record, it's in Europe where his "small club" mentality comes in useful, as he plays the same backs-to-the-wall game he used to take to places like Old Trafford.
His European record is laudable in many respects, and yet I can't help thinking we rode our luck there once or twice too with last minute goals saving us a couple of times, that and a penalty shootout against the Russians.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:44
COMMENT-BODY:ian in budapest
sorry ian didn't mean to distract your attention from the preamble to the big game. i'll make
a point of reading your reply properly after we have hopefully dealt with the matter in hand, of beating motherwell.
hail hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gary67
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:44
COMMENT-BODY:so according to strachan we're playing well, defence is excellent, we need a wee bit of luck in front of goal. he's either deluded or extracting the urine
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:45
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr,
all i was getting at in my original post was that strachan cant win. i happen to think that he's picked a great line up today. however, i know people will be saying "he should have played 352" and some will criticise him for playing naka, others for playing mcdonald... yes, everyone is entitled to opinions, but it seems no matter what he does he upsets many people.
all i want is for people to get behind celtic and stop beating strachan over the head because he doesnt do what you want him to do.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gsc_bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:45
COMMENT-BODY:dub-tim
Your argument about GS being far more qualified than any of the CQN posters (13:36) is entirely logical, particularly to someone like myself who has been one of GS's biggest supporters.
However, we are, potentially, 10 points behind in a two-horse race, having lost points against really poor teams such as ICT, and have played largely rubbish football for most of this season and much of the last.
Given this, I can no longer conclude that it is logical to support GS "implicitly". I agree, however, that he should be entitled to everyone's support as long as he is here.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:46
COMMENT-BODY:new article posted.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pastyface
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:50
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic
01 Boruc
02 Hinkel
05 Caldwell
44 McManus
03 Naylor
25 Nakamura
19 Robson
11 Hartley
46 McGeady
27 McDonald
10 Vennegoor of Hesselink
Substitutes
21 Brown, 15 Sno, 52 Caddis, 29 Mizuno, 09 Samaras, 33 Killen, 06 Balde
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: James Forrest
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 13:51
COMMENT-BODY:dub-tim:
I respect your opinion, mate, of course, but I am not saying I am a better manager than Strachan, only that we should HAVE a better manager than Strachan.
Your comment about "whatever he does he upsets people" has merit, but only insofar as what bothers us isn't everything he does but that everything he does IS THE SAME.
I for one would have been delighted today had we gone 3-5-2, or even 4-3-3. Anything to break the montonous cycle of his 4-4-2 which other managers know so well they could counter it in their sleep.
I refer you to my posts concerning the Aberdeen cup defeat. A few weeks before the first we played them off the park in the league. Calderwood adjusted his tactics accordingly for the cup game, amongst them giving McGeady a man marker in Alan Maybury. Our most creative player was almost totally marked out of the game that day.
The return match at Parkhead? Strachan fields the EXACT SAME TACTICS, putting McGeady up against the EXACT SAME PLAYER with, predictably, the exact same result. He didn't even have the wit to swap McGeady and Nakamura, which would at least have given Maybury something else to worry about.
That's why I've no faith in him, those games right there, if for no other reason ..... and there are, alas, plenty of other reasons .....
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tic Talk
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 14:08
COMMENT-BODY:Enjoyed your earlier post, Ian i B.
We all want Celtic to do well but how we differ is in our response when things are not going as we want. So ask yourself a simple question: What helps the team/Club more when we are not winning/playing well; is it continued support or continued criticism? By all means decide that you want rid of x,y or Strachan but surely now is not the time to be negative. Rangers glean unquetioned support from all areas, Celtic can only rely on us fans. Don`t let them/us down.Be positive and start today.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 14:24
COMMENT-BODY:A Leader is a Dealer in HOPE...
Napoleon Bonaparte...
HAIL HAIL...
o1bhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: patnevinspen
COMMENT-DATE:13/04/08 15:19
COMMENT-BODY:How good it is not to have S Brown giving the ball away all day long.
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TITLE: History awaits those who pull on a Celtic shirt tomorrow
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 3/28/2008 03:22:00 PM
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BODY:
We lost at Ibrox in October, when we enjoyed a lead in the league.
We lost in Donetsk, with five Champions League game still to play.
We lost in Lisbon, after beating Milan.
We lost in Milan, after a pressure-relieving nine points were achieved.
But after losing in Donetsk, we beat the European Champions.
After losing to Benfica, we took them back to Glasgow and beat them too.
After going a goal down at home to Shakhtar who were on the brink of qualification, we stormed back to win.
Not only can this Celtic team raise their game when necessary, they only seem to raise their game when it’s necessary.
After that win against Milan, who can forget the contrasting game against Gretna? Form seems to appear under pressure.
Our former chairman Brian Quinn said “Only the mediocre are always at their best,” he had a talent for prescience. I cannot tell you why we inch past mundane SPL clubs, lose when we can afford to in the Champions League group games, but have produced some performances this season that will live a lifetime in the memory.
Notwithstanding this, the manager and his players know how to win when they need to. They have done so against much better teams that they gritty outfit they will face tomorrow.
The pundits, professional and amateur alike, tell us that Celtic don’t have a chance tomorrow; I wouldn’t want it any other way.
Same again, Celtic, a historic championship is there for you.Labels: Match Preview
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Lennondinho18
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:28
COMMENT-BODY:Hail Hail Shun
Lets hope McGeady runs riot
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Lennondinho18
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:31
COMMENT-BODY:every time we get the ball to Aiden he shud be running at broadfoot
EVERY time
I can see McGeady scoring an absolute screamer the mora
He is 9/2 to score at any time
Tomorrow is the biggest game of your Life Aiden son
Go make history
AIDEN MCGEADY
AIDEN MCGEADY
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulster-Celt
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:31
COMMENT-BODY:2 - 1 the good guys
mccollough sent off
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: danny
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:34
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67
I hope the Celtic players are as prodigious tomorrow as you've been this week.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:35
COMMENT-BODY:Oldtim67:
Mate, got it via my usa address and you did a good thing. CQN truly has a lot to answer for. Good Tims making new Mates with other Good Tims. Where will it ever end? Wait to I get back the Corporation buses and the fiddlers won’t know what hit them.
Can’t sleep and it’s not because I’m fear’t. I can’t sleep because like a kid on Christmas Eve, I’m looking forward.
I appreciate the magnitude of this game. It is massive as is my anticipation.
Standing Up for the Champions.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Henriks_Sombrero
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:42
COMMENT-BODY:Well done AGAIN Celtic. Another media scare story exposed as blatant lies.
I for one hope the club keep this up. I know you intimate Paul that the club protest privately at media fabrications and other injustices, but I for one am all for putting it in the public domain. We've been silent too long and it's got us nowhere in this country.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: thismancraig
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:45
COMMENT-BODY:If it's going to be a famous one, it has to start tomorrow.
Ideally a win as Champions win at Ibrox but we must not lose.
Come on Celtic, overcome adversity the way only we can!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BSM71
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:49
COMMENT-BODY:So up for tomorrow, get in there.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:52
COMMENT-BODY:Boruc leaving, UEFA investigations - did I miss the Naka back to Japan story, or did they not use that one this time?
I read the BBC story very carefully. It mentions that vidoes have been sent and then tells in very general terms how allegations are investigated. Of course UEFA has to lool into any claims made, however frivilous.
Without seeing the full interview with the alleged UEFA source, I can only suggest very selective reporting.
But if UEFA doesn't take this to the disciplinary hearing, then you will hear Murray's lapdogs in the media talk of double standards, etc.
I hope the players feel the same indignation that I do. The same anger at the constant collusion and cheating between one club, the media and the football authorities. Our club is under constant attack and they can give the vest possible response - play those cheats off the park!
I can't wait for kick off.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:53
COMMENT-BODY:Danny, give me five minutes with them before kick off and I guarantee it.
Henricks Sombrero, having possible not seen all material under scrutiny…..
I don’t think anything will come of this. Uefa look into these matters regularly and have done so before with Celtic. Celtic have been meticulous in their management of the Uefa delegates, the SFA and the media since this first raised its head some time ago.
I am sure the ‘story’ was introduced today in a manner similar to my Barry Ferguson story of yesterday…
“Uefa, here is a youtube video, will you look into it?”
“Yes, of course.”
Factually correct story filed for later use.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:53
COMMENT-BODY:Danny, give me five minutes with them before kick off and I guarantee it.
Henricks Sombrero, having possible not seen all material under scrutiny…..
I don’t think anything will come of this. Uefa look into these matters regularly and have done so before with Celtic. Celtic have been meticulous in their management of the Uefa delegates, the SFA and the media since this first raised its head some time ago.
I am sure the ‘story’ was introduced today in a manner similar to my Barry Ferguson story of yesterday…
“Uefa, here is a youtube video, will you look into it?”
“Yes, of course.”
Factually correct story filed for later use.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:54
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA, heading up the road tonight to see ma bairns.
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ian_in_budapest
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:55
COMMENT-BODY:SFA stand by decision over Robson fitness
http://sport.scotsman.com/football/SFA-stand-by--.3925949.jp
Wasn't Robson's withdrawal described in the press in such a way that suggested Celtic had prevented him from playing for Scotland? Unlike our friends across the city no one associated with Celtic commented on the player's supposed injury, that is not until yesterday to clarify that the player was not injured. Imagine, a scandal involving the SFA . . .
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Henriks_Sombrero
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:56
COMMENT-BODY:Robson has to start tomorrow. If ever a player will be up to prove his fitness and energy it will be him. Not to mention getting it right up the team he was used as an unwilling pawn for.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 15:59
COMMENT-BODY:This is it Bhoys!
Time to bury the Wattie "hoodoo" for good. GETRIGHTINTAETHEM!!
Lennondinho mate, I agree re. Aiden. Tomorrow is his day to rise above them and take his rightful place amongst the Celtic heroes of yesteryear who have done us proud against them.
However I would have him running at Papac on our right side of midfield. Left back is not his favoured position apparently (I believe they bought him as a centre-half????) and for me he doesn't look comfortable there at all. He also is nowhere near as "cynical" i.e. a durty bassa, as Broadfoot will be if he plays.
Robbo on the left, with Skoosh and Paul Hartley in the middle, will give us balance, dig, movement and skill. A midfield that will be too strong overall for them to dominate.
Get at them from the whistle, score an early goal and watch them bottle it. They will then be forced to come at us and abandon the Wattanaccio, something they don't really know how to do.
I am convinced that if this happens we can really give them a doing possibly 3-0.
The longer the game is scoreless the better for them. We know that is their gameplan as it has been Wattie's since the early 90's. We score first and it is ours for the taking!
ONWARDS TO 3-IN-A-ROW!!!
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: moonbeams wet dream
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:01
COMMENT-BODY:Away from obvious establishment preference what do you all think the score will be tomorrow.
If the Celtic players have been reading this blog I recon 0-90 with 3 goals chalked off in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd minutes of the game by the establishments ref.
If they have missed this blog then I will go for 0-1 or 1-2.
I expect it to be a spectacularly poor game due to the nature of their formation but a great result.
C@MON THE HOOPS and a BIG HAIL, HAIL.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: logger 'GG
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:02
COMMENT-BODY:From last night, hoping it would stimulate an exchange about the game.
Team to win comfortably.
THG
Hinkel, Caldwell, McManus, Naylor.
Picks itself really, especially as BB hasn’t been playing for some time.
Naka, Brown, Hartley, McGeady.
One short against Rangers’ midfield 5, but they will need to deploy 2 men to cover Aiden, leaving the Naka and Hinkel partnership to expose and bully Rangers’ susceptible left flank. Hartley to hold the left midfield and cover for Aiden being deployed slightly further forward than normal, which should stop the Rangers midfield and full back deserting their defensive duties.
JVOH and McDonald
Need Skippy’s movement upfront and recently JVOH has been involved and energetic.
Samaras to be held in reserve as an impact player along with Robson, to come on when we are a couple of goals up and they become exposed at the back.
It is important that we do not concede an early goal, and take advantage of the ageing tiring Rangers defence in the last 30 minutes.
‘GG warming to three points.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:06
COMMENT-BODY:Tame start to the Wetherspoon's beer festival yesterday (at least as far as the Teser's concerned). Seems they have to get rid of the pre-Festival ales before regaling us with the adventurous new stuff. So we were reduced to three debutants yesterday and one was a cloudy scrumpy which doesn't count. The other two were Elgood's Old Wagg (close but not close enough) at around 4.5% abv and an American hop based Double IPA (at a prohibitive 7% abv) called Stones if memory serves. They are flogging the American and Japanese stuff as authentic but have brought the ingredients over here and made the beer using Shepherd Neame's facilities in Kent.
So a slow start which hopefully will pick up over the weekend.
OldWG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:10
COMMENT-BODY:scottishleaf:
From the previous thread,
The Lion Rampant predates the Stewart dynasty by more than two hundred years. It is a Republican flag in as much as it is pro Scottish and anti English.
It was displayed by Jacobite armies, but the flag itself is of no religious persuasion.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Papa Giovanni Paulo
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:11
COMMENT-BODY:Test
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Papa Giovanni Paulo
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:11
COMMENT-BODY:Test
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Papa Giovanni Paulo
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:11
COMMENT-BODY:Test
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:12
COMMENT-BODY:VIP
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:14
COMMENT-BODY:Have you lot scared Edward off the premises ?
Ed - if thou lurketh, beer fest report above.
WG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: logger 'GG
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:15
COMMENT-BODY:Papa
Passed.
'GG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:16
COMMENT-BODY:Papac
Failed
'WG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Papa Giovanni Paulo
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:17
COMMENT-BODY:"Time to turn the Guns on the Huns"
Tommorow Will Come,
and alast we will know
If Strachan will stay
or Strachan will Go.
But we will turn our guns
On the perma-ragin huns,
AND CELEBRATE 3 IN A ROW!!!!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dick Byrne
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:18
COMMENT-BODY:malceye,
I have noted your number and will be happy to keep you updated. Suggest you delete your comment now in case it gets picked up by enemy forces.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:18
COMMENT-BODY:Papa
Up The Gunners
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: scottishleaf
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:18
COMMENT-BODY:stoir mha chroi
Thanks for the explanation, my understanding was obviously incorrect -not for the first time :-)- I took it too be the Stewart flag because of the Jacobite connection but my knowledge of Scottish history is not as good as it should be :-(
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:19
COMMENT-BODY:Dick Byrne
you are a gentleman.
cheers
Malceye
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bazzabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:21
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67 - My pulse quickend, my heart is racing and my head dizzy after reading that
I would so dearly love to be wearing the hoops playing tomorrow.
For those lucky enough to be doing just that.. You have every Celtic man, woman and child (and a few goldfish, hamsters, dogs and cats id imagine too) on Gods green earth behind you tomorrow, kicking every ball with you...
Believe....We Are Celtic.
Cant wait to read tomorrows post before I leave the house... Before half past 9 please Paul!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dick Byrne
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:22
COMMENT-BODY:malceye,
No probs - hopefully I will have good news to report.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:22
COMMENT-BODY:Erm, there doesn't appear to be the usual bin beside my post - Paul67 can you delet please ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:24
COMMENT-BODY: NOBODY's CHILD
As I was slowly passing old Ibrox Park one day
I stopped just for a moment for to watch the rangers play
Alone John Greig was standing and when I asked him why
He turned with eyes all full of tears and he began to cry
" We've no goat a team, we've no goat a team
No Jimmy Johnstone, no Dixie Deans
No Kenny Dalglish and no Harry Hood
We're joost the rangers, we're no bloody good. "
Alexander Brothers RSC, ML2
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Mark
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:26
COMMENT-BODY:Hi everyone, long time lurker first time poster.
I'm in desperate need of some help, I've managed to get a ticket to the game on saturday, but I have no way of getting to and from the game. I live in the west end of Glasgow and I've tried the limited amount of supporters clubs I know to see if they have any free seats going on their buses and they are all full.
Can anyone help!!!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Marvin
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:26
COMMENT-BODY:2 Questions
Will the holy Goalie bless himself at Ibrox?
Will the huns go off their nuts?
I think that tomorrow you will hear the loudest "Holy Goalie" song EVER!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Papa Giovanni Paulo
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:27
COMMENT-BODY:BOBOCOP vs THE ROCKET
MICK vs NACH0 NO GOALS
MCGEADY vs KIRK BROADFLUTE
NAKA vs PAPAC
ARTUR vs EVERYONE
BROON vs Thomson
HARTLEY vs Ferguson
HINKEL Vs Burke
Rangers(No european Cup) 1 Celtic 3
Thats my prediction
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Alobundy
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:29
COMMENT-BODY:There has been a lot said about impact players of late. Rangers have their own in Novo and Boyd. However to win I believe the impact has to be from the first second till the last. We must take the game to them in such a manner that they are beaten and soundly so. Every player must put their hands behind their backs like scolded school children and say yes sir, no sir, sorry sir. Keep the discipline, take the points.
Take it to another level lads, one that they cannot live with.
What ever team WGS puts out only 100 percent commitment will be accepted. Cmon the bhoys.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Parkheadcumsalford
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:32
COMMENT-BODY:Let's hope whoever plays for us tomorrow really understands what it means to play for the jersey. They have the privilege of representing CELTIC, the pride of those of the Celtic persuasion worldwide.
I see that the BBC is still running the sectarian chanting nonsense, without any accreditation.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:32
COMMENT-BODY:Malceye, done.
Bazzabhoy, in that case I think you should start in central midfield.
Mark, welcome.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:33
COMMENT-BODY:Mark,
can you not use the Glasgow underground system ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: jimtim
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:33
COMMENT-BODY:hi paul fellow celts.
paul have just read the story regards barry robson, would i be right in thinking that this lad was used as an excuse for the withdrawal of the rangers 4. my word how would that have made them look if all their players withdrew and all ours played. looks like this lad was used as a cover up for them . if this is right then imo celtic should have a dossier on its way to uefa already . and btw include footage from the last game at ibrox to let them decide about the 9 bookings. and some of us think we have a chance tomorrow . oh if only wee fergus was still here.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bazzabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:37
COMMENT-BODY:Not such a good idea that Paul67, last time I played was against rangers. We got beat 5-3 (first time we played without Dubtim in goals) and I ended up on crutches for a week because of a kamakazie tackle on one of the hun players.
Ill stick to watching the game.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Mark
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:39
COMMENT-BODY:Awe_Naw I'd really rather not! I've done that once before an it wasnae a pleasent experience!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:41
COMMENT-BODY:Is the Scotland physio or doctor the one which was accused of giving Kris Boyd sick notes under le Guen when he was hungover?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:48
COMMENT-BODY:Malceye, done.
Bazzabhoy, in that case I think you should start in central midfield.
Mark, welcome.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:51
COMMENT-BODY:Quite interesting, the anomalies between Ronnie Cully in the Evening Times online and what he says in the paper edition.
A couple of quotes from Cully's paper column:
'To his bemusement, the midfielder was sent home' - the online version omits the first three words
'Depsite his shabby treatment...' - the online omits the word 'shabby'.
Those words are likely to be the harshest the Scottish media will get on this issue.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: spikeysAuldMan
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:58
COMMENT-BODY:just wondering, is there a single person out there today who stillthinks that strachan should change his attitude towards the media ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 16:59
COMMENT-BODY:Paul 67
I love the Brian Quinn comment. Is that an original quote? Or is he quoting someone?
I'm off to prepare a long post about Gordon's Gettysburg moment tomorrow.
You have been warned.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 17:02
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 17:05
COMMENT-BODY:SFTB- At Gettysburg, which way were we shooting?
DBBIA/Robert E Lee CSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:28/03/08 17:05
COMMENT-BODY:new article posted.
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