TITLE: Celtic 3-2 Rangers, 27 April 2008
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 4/27/2008 05:12:00 PM
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BODY:
Scott McDonald scored twice and won a penalty, converted by Barry Robson, as Celtic beat Rangers 3-2, the first time they have come from behind to beat Rangers in 15 years.
McDonald opened the scoring after only three minutes after Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink set him clear with only Neil Alexander in the Rangers goal to beat.
Rangers responded to going behind positively and used two successive free kicks outside the Celtic box to apply pressure. Artur Boruc was forced to palm the ball away from his area after an early Rangers corner before Davie Weir headed an excellent Steven Davis corner into the net to pull Rangers level.
Shunsuke Nakamura almost gave Celtic the lead again with a free kick from a tight angle that Alexander punched away on the line before Rangers scored again.
Davis found Danny Cousin with a near-post corner, who headed Rangers into the lead on 29 minutes.
At this point Rangers were in the ascendancy with their extra man in midfield allowing them to force the play and pressure Celtic players into making mistakes. Aiden McGeady changed the pattern of play by committing defenders down the Rangers right and it was from such a move that Celtic drew level.
McGeady cut inside and passed to McDonald who had his back to goal. The Australian international knocked the ball two yards to his left before swinging round and cracking a shot high into the Rangers net. The goal was a mirror of Nakamura’s shot that was punched off the line against Rangers 11 days ago.
Nacho Novo missed what looked like a league winning chance in the second half when the ball broke free to him inside the box after Danny Cousin crossed from the left, but Novo shot wide; this was to be Rangers last genuine chance.
Early in the second half Scott McDonald got behind his defender inside the box but the chance was lost when he sent an awkward cross to Vennegoor of Hesselink. On 70 minutes the same situation presented itself but this time McDonald kept his body between defender and ball, and was barged to the ground by a clumsy Kirk Broadfoot; penalty to Celtic!
Barry Robson, who had another outstanding game, grabbed the ball this time and sent a thunderous shot straight into the middle of the goal, which Neil Alexander was wise to dive away from.
The final 20 minutes were nail biting for the home support but Celtic never looked like conceding a goal and ran the clock down with some intelligent possession football. In the final minutes McDonald twice won free kicks by shielding the ball and being barged to the ground for his efforts before a tired looking Steven Whittaker hacked Nakamura in a similar incident and received his second yellow card of the game in the 93rd minute.
Labels: Match Report
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Wireman
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:14
COMMENT-BODY:First?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:16
COMMENT-BODY:From previous thread
WGS commentating on Arturs T-Shirt to the Daily Mail.
"Celtic manager Gordon Strachan made light of the antics of his goalkeeper Artur Boruc who revealed a 'God bless the Pope' T-shirt following the 3-2 win over R****rs at Parkhead.
After the game the Poland international, nicknamed the 'Holy Goalie' by the Celtic fans, took his goalkeeping shirt off to show the t-shirt with a picture of the Pope and accompanying slogan.
But Strachan joked: "He's not a bad lad, to be fair (the Pope). "If it was 'God bless Myra Hindley', I might have a problem."
God Bless Gordon Strachan CSC
Holy Goalie
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: chennaiseabird
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:21
COMMENT-BODY:Danny??
Nacho No Pockets.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Glasgowsellick
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:22
COMMENT-BODY:30th Birthday today and what a wonderful gift!! It is so much sweeter when you ram their 'bouncy...' down their throats.
Artur Boruc, you are a legend!!
Well done everyone today.
Off now to celebrate... twice!!
Paul, great work you have been putting in, over the last couple of months especially!!
Your efforts are appreciated!!
Hail Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Lubo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:23
COMMENT-BODY:My Paranoia pills are not working anymore. Successive penalties and red cards against them!
Great result today, we deserved the win. Barry Robson was magniificent in the second half. Skippy looks back to his best.
Is it a coincidence that the new found "spirit" returned at the same time as Neil Lennon?
Lubo.
BTW... Were my eyes playing tricks or did anyone else see WGS with a packet of Wine Gums before the end?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:26
COMMENT-BODY:Is WGS a secret Sex Pistols fan?
"God save Myra Hindley
And God save Ian Brady
Even though he's horrible
And she ain't what you'd call a lady"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:29
COMMENT-BODY:lubo, you forget that we had another two pen claims wrongfully dismissed. your pills do work, you just need to up the dosage...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: hoopsIdiditagain
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:30
COMMENT-BODY:Now I'm looking forward to going to work tomorrow.
WELL DONE LADS.
Last time I posted I said the team had no bottle, they have now proved me wrong.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Martin42
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:35
COMMENT-BODY:EdwardU,
I have been "STANDING UP" now for nearly three years and I have no intention "SITTING DOWN" which is` for losers and I really think that if we are not the losers, then it can only be one other team.
I wonder which team that can be?
Edward, keep your spirits up, there is always next year.
However, Edward, I am sure you know the formula by now, 2 in a row is achieved often, 3 in a row seldom and when it is, the team goes on to 9 in a row.
What a depressing thought for you.
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin.
PS,
What is this gout, Edward, I spoke to Winningemmell after the game and he was skipping all the way down the London Road.
Martin.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: hail hail
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:39
COMMENT-BODY:Let the People Sing
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gweedorebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:40
COMMENT-BODY:Fantastic result great to see the huns get it right up them.
Great performance by the DJ about time we had some back to basics songs. Also under pressure at the end complemented the holy goalie who i fear by his reaction may have said his old firm farewell.
Very tense day but thank god we managed to win. Now over to hibs and motherwell. We may lose this league but at least we know what we have to fix next year.
We must ensure that we do not over look the things that must be addressed
Hinkle and naylor looked poor today and whilst caldwell was very good mcmanus was shocking at the first goal and has no distribution other than a pass to naylor.
Also if GG is on the go for £3million we have to say no thanks.
Robson caldwell and skippy all amazing.
Well done celtic
Also took a drive through harthill on way home just to noise the scum up. It's true i could not see a handsome hun!
Brilliant.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:41
COMMENT-BODY:What a great day - and praise due for Gordon Strachan and all the players.
Couple of wee points - Neil Alexander looked very nervous to me in the tunnel (I was confined to Setanta). That can't have done him any good today.
David Weir's demeanour as he trudged off at half-time spoke volumes, I think. He looked a beaten man with 45 minutes to play.
Crisis - (n) Any state of being requiring the introduction of Amdy Faye.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: lurgan53
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:44
COMMENT-BODY:Lubo
I was thinking the same thing re Lennon's return. But the plaudits should go where they belong - stand up Mr Gordon Strachan.
Setanta are showing a rerun at 9.30pm. I have a lovely bottle of Shiraz awaiting - kept off the soup last night in anticipation of a favourable result. Looking forward to watching it again minus the nerves. Even the wife says shes going to watch it as well!
She might do - but she's not getting any of my Shiraz!!
Still standing! Still Proud! So so proud.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:44
COMMENT-BODY:gweedorebhoy: You might be right about Artur but that's for another day.
Who is GG?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:47
COMMENT-BODY:Game on Setanta 2 at 6pm
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gweedorebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:48
COMMENT-BODY:one star means more
Samaras
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:49
COMMENT-BODY:What a great day to be a Celtic fan. The sun shining, YNWA ringing around the ground and our heroes giving us the result we craved. I count myslelf so lucky to have been in paradise today.
And I can't wait to watch it all over again tonight!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:50
COMMENT-BODY:I saw her today at the reception
A glass of wine in her hand
I knew she was gonna meet her connection
At her feet was a footloose man
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you might find
You get what you need
And I went down to the demonstration
To get my fair share of abuse
Singing, were gonna vent our frustration
If we dont were gonna blow a 50-amp fuse
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you just might find
You get what you need
I went down to the chelsea drugstore
To get your prescription filled
I was standing in line with mr. jimmy
And man, did he look pretty ill
We decided that we would have a soda
My favorite flavor, cherry red
I sung my song to mr. jimmy
Yeah, and he said one word to me, and that was dead
I said to him
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You get what you need
You get what you need--yeah, oh baby
I saw her today at the reception
In her glass was a bleeding man
She was practiced at the art of deception
Well I could tell by her blood-stained hands
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
You cant always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You just might find
You get what you need
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:51
COMMENT-BODY:If I'm not mistook, the last time we played THEM at this time on a Sunday, The Herald had a "Breaking news" report on its website.
Can't think what should be different this time.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Billy Stark's Telescopic Heid
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:52
COMMENT-BODY:Great effort in today's performance. Skippy was great. McGeady scared them to death even though his passing was off today. Huns at breaking point - lets go get em!
Artur Boruc - you are legend. Let's see how Scotland's Shame and the Shamettes in the media like them apples. With twisted logic and rage I'll warrant.
One disappointment today - confirmation (as if were needed) that Mick can't defend his box. Time for a change - 2 years of this now - not good enough.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: caeser1967
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:52
COMMENT-BODY:Mr SFTB (from previous thread)
From the previous thread.
I did not use the drought word with reference to our strikers - you did, are you a tabloid (or broadsheet) writer.
I personally have little faith in JVOH's ability. Although he has averaged 1 in 2 over the dozen or so games. Which i guess you cannot grumble at.
Samaras, have to say jury still out, seems to drift out of the danger area to often and to easily. £3M+, uncertain!
Was honking last week Vs Aberdeen goal apart when he got his chance to start.
So i will 100% stick to my original notion that i hope that skippy has got his confidence and shooting boots back on over the coming 3 weeks.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:53
COMMENT-BODY:Novo was wearing pocketless shorts
whereas Aiden had old fashioned rugby shorts on , the one`s with two pockets , one for ned novo and the other for bentfoot
i had a great day
up to Glasgow for 10 mass at St Alphonsus
some breakfast
hump the huns
back home in time to see Munster reach the Euro cup final ....i`m at a stag in Galway last weekend in May which is the date of the Final
an injury to Weir and a sending off for Whittaker
good day all round
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:54
COMMENT-BODY:Message for BoltonBhoy
Valladolid just scored in the third minute of stoppage time. Jonathan was the scorer.
“Pucela, pucela, pucela,” ringing out.
Valladolid 1-0 Almería.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: setting free the bears
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 17:59
COMMENT-BODY:Caesar
I quoted you accurately.
You said:-
"The other 2 dont look like weighing in with ,any goals at the moment."
I feel that is a ridiculous statement since Samaras scored last week and JVOH the week before.
So, if drought is not an accurate summary word for your assertion, what exactly do you mean by "at the moment"?
Nobody scores goals that count in the week between fixtures.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:00
COMMENT-BODY:here is the Celtic Message
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:01
COMMENT-BODY:I'm soo over the moon after that result. I can't wait to watch the re-run on CH67 at midnight.
Caeser1967
In defence of Jan, He has averaged a goal every 1.8 games over 49 matches. He has averaged a goal every 2.2 games over 396 games in his career. It's pretty impressive.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:01
COMMENT-BODY:Sir Paul
Just caught the game... a much too early start,for this part of the woild....It was... well...too early!
That, being said... on with the SHOW!
I am sorry, but if I must,then ....why not?
Now, do the following observations sound all too familiar?
"TACTICS? SMACKTICS!"
"It is NOT the FAULT OF THE MANAGER!
IT IS THE FAULT OF THE PLAYERS!"
and this from 3 weeks ago....
"The Celtic will smash the G.A. on Wednesday!"
"And THEY soitenly did, Ollie"
"Yes, Stanley,THEY soitenly did!"
And now comes the rhetorical ""Why"...
WHY?
Remember, when I said?...
"Because Celtic... they have touched bottom...
THEY HAVE HEARD THE RUSTLE OF ANGEL FEATHERS!"
and the following particular exclaimation, has been repeated by me,at times... during the past THREE MONTHS...
" I LUV GARY CALDWELL... Gary Caldwell is one of my FIRM FAVORITES!"
And all of these statements have been coming from a guy, who has NEVAH PLAYED THE GAME!
My only sport..besides GAWF.... being..... TEN PIN BOWLING!
I am feeling mighty vindicated.... SMUGITY! SMUGITY!
Although, I have been indeedly, prescient... I am not by any means.. Poifect!
I do admit to being ....probably.. Na!... the very FOIST... FLINGER of Fickle Flying Haberdashery, on this Forum!
A Premature Ejection,NOT to mention... a DEPLORABLE Rejection of FAITH!.... So, I will not Mention it!
Oh!Well!
I have inserted this regrettable action on my part... to show that even I ...can call it wrong...on occasion!
Todays, game?
Luvved it! Luvved it! Luvved it!
It had everything!
High DRAMA... High ANXIETY...
High Jinks!
The Jinky Part?....
Why Arthur's Crowning Crow..!Isn't HE SUMPTIN'?
How many games do we have to play?
Is it Four?
Anyway, I am confident that we shall win them all...
Howevvvvvvvvvvvvvvah!
I will leave the final denouement of this saga,nestling, in the lap of the Gods!
Now Gabriella,my dear... where did I put that DRAMBUIE?
Kojo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: HHBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:02
COMMENT-BODY:Hi Paul, I hope you don’t mind me posting this again I didn’t notice your new article comment :- )
It looks like the Fod are getting their December at long last; I just hope it takes a few points off them as it did to us. Given the choice I’d still rather be in their shoes, but wouldn’t be too confident about the next few games they have to play. Interestingly enough we have shown bottle when it counts, and rose to the occasion and got our 6 points. The Fod have tried to get away without losing and lost. Now both teams are in the position of not daring to drop points. We have what it takes, and believe we will accumulate the remaining 9 we need. Can the Fod do that? No, I don’t think so, as shown here today they are shaky, and it could well be, come next weekend that we indeed will push father ahead. We have the beating of Motherwell, I can see them losing away to Hibs, (after losing to Fiorentina).
3 defeats in a row for the Fod will be too much for them – the team, Wattie-face and the Orcs.
A complete meltdown is around the corner, it started last week, and we’ve put more coal on the fire.
It was a sweet result today. Well done to the team, the fans and Gordon Strachan.
HHBhoy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:02
COMMENT-BODY:billy stark
mick was dreadful..his injury may keep him out....... he should however be dropped but that was never going to happen despite his poor form
Caldwell was again excellent and apart from the first half hour had control of Cousin
BTW ...couldn`t beleive that BB wasn`t on the bench
both full backs were crap with Hinkel (who had really been coming on to a game )being particularly rank ....to be fair didn`t look fit
Naylor...what does MW have to do to get a game ..this guy gets away with murder in a Celtic shirt
and whoever mentioned the DJ... spot on ...great tunes created a wonderful atmosphere
still buzzing
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:05
COMMENT-BODY:Just a few hours after our most important win for many moons and the blame and bickering starts. Just enjoy it, can't you?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mpre27
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:06
COMMENT-BODY:Fantastic!!! Congratulations!
C´mon the Hoops!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: geebee1978
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:08
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo...
Weren't you also the original "Towel-thrower"?
We'll see whether or not your ball was crystal come the end of May ;)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Greenwells Glory
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:14
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo my man great result
Angel feathers :- The incomparable Jimmy Cagney in " Come fill my cup"
(If I'm not mistaken)
Yer Pal Greenwells who has partaken of too much common beer but has a fine Dalmore cigar malt to look forwar to when he sobers up
Let us ride the river with sand in our collective craws Greenwells
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:15
COMMENT-BODY:Glasgowsellick, Happy Birthday.
Kojo, agree, Gary Caldwell is in outstanding form.
HHBhoy, aye, we had the injury problems in December, they are having them not.
Pfayr, Bobo would have been on the bench but for the U-21 rule.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: caeser1967
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:16
COMMENT-BODY:SFTB - Sorry gramatical/typo error.
To many MGD's post match
hit , instead of m
Statement should have read
"The other 2 dont look like weighing in with Many goals at the moment." not ,any.
Boy Sean - thanx for the stat attack on Jan thats a surprise to me. Cannot argue wae stats like that.
I questioned his goals in big games ratio.
But with recent goals Vs barca and hun hopefully he can continue with this trend.
Still think skippy is best goal hope for remainder and sincerely hope he has confidence back and shooting boots back.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:16
COMMENT-BODY:Real Madrid fans are gathering at the Plaza Cibeles in central Madrid where they celebrate their triumphs. Atlético fans take the next fountain along the Paseo del Prado, Neptuno.
Betis-Villarreal kicked off 15 minutes ago. If Villarreal fail to win, Real Madrid, who kick off at eight our time, need to beat Athletic Bilbao to be champions with four games to spare.
Could be an especially good weekend for Winningemmell: Celtic beat Rangers, Man Utd and Barcelona lose and Real Madrid clinch the title. All that plus all those Teser vouchers. All the atheists must be wondering if there is something in religion after all.
Couldn't happen to a nicer mhan. If Real Madrid win, fair play.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: caeser1967
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:17
COMMENT-BODY:How sore the terrible capitulation Vs 10 man Motherwell 3 weeks ago at home. How costly. With these 3 points I would have made us favourites at this stage.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:18
COMMENT-BODY:Villarreal have scored. Goal of the season.
Marco Senna scored from the centre circle.
Even the Betis fans have stood up and applauded the goal.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dub-tim
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:21
COMMENT-BODY:i see, and hear, the rangers fans kept up their form of spouting garbage. again, they felt they needed to remind everyone that the famine is over.
even though i'm sitting three and a half thousand miles away in dublin i retorted:
the farmer is calling, why dont you go home...
ps: we defo should have had a 2nd peno in the minute before they scored. whittaker nearly sunk caldwell!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:23
COMMENT-BODY:paul67
i take it MW is over 21 now
what exactly is required in that regard ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:24
COMMENT-BODY:caeser1967
Fair play, you're not the only one who doubts him in the Celtic support. He has been playing well for Holland recently also which will give him a springboard. It's only really been since January which we've seen a sustained run from him at Celtic as he's had a number of niggly injuries and I think if he can keep himself fit then he'd continue to be influential. He seems to be someone who is considered with a lot of repsect from the players and the coaching staff. I've always enjoyed hearing him speak as well as he seems like a guy who has his feet firmly in the ground.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:27
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67 & Kojo,
Once again i ned to praise Caldwell. One of his biggest critics but again today especially when the weakest link went off for Master O'Dea was immense. Threw himself at everything in the closet stages. He looked very assured with O'Dea beside.
If GS remains he has bite the bullet and drop Mick and Naylor and seek new personnel. The two of them are the weakset link in our armoury.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: thebhoyblack
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:27
COMMENT-BODY:Mon the hoops. Hey hey hey. GC Quality today but wee skippy was my man o the match. Thought today was great because it shows we can do it even when a goal down. Bobo on the bench? For me our best defender was on the bench and he did just fine when he came on!!!! Big Mick had me screaming today I love his attitude but he should have sat down and got off the pitch when he knew he was out of it.
How clear does a goal scoring oppurchancity have to be before a hun sees red?
evenwhenwewinstillcan'tunderstandmib-csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:27
COMMENT-BODY:watching the rerun on setanta
it`s only 20 mins in ,i know the result and i still find myself bawling at that eejit Booth
what a sad ,bitter wee hun he is
I HATE SCOTT BOOTH BUT NOVO MORE
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:30
COMMENT-BODY:Fantastic game, really enjoyed it, very sweet.
I thought we showed the difference in class between the teams today. They may have overperformed this season, and may win the league but Walter has a very long shopping list for the summer.
I'm not a fan of Bobo, due to his tactical limitations, but he'd have prevented both their goals today.
I'm sure that was a sweet win for WGS today, it ust feel great for him to have answered his doubters in the last 10 days. Still questions to answer, but pride restored and an improvement delivered.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:30
COMMENT-BODY:thebhoyblack,
well pointed out about O´Dea .. just back from a Hernia op as well.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: geebee1978
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:33
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67....
On the subject of Caldwell, Wenger once said that a team is only as good as its midfield. Even the worlds best defenders (which I'm not saying we have) would struggle if they see too much of the ball and don't get adequate protection.
I think the introduction of Robson has made a big difference in all areas of the team and if Brown gets this difficult first season out of the way and gets plenty of games alongside Robson, building confidence and understanding, we may be onto something. I'm not sure about Donati. I can see he has something but as with Jarosik, I don't think we'll be seeing it regularly enough in the SPL. If we can get a decent return on him, it may be time for him to go back to Italy and play Robson and Brown as our regular midfield partnership.
With this in mind, I really hope we do 3-in-a-row because if we win this year, I can't see Rangers winning for the foreseeable future. Strachan has learned (maybe through fortune rather than judgement) how to beat Smith and we could be looking at four or five in a row.....
....here's hoping.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:33
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear friend... GeeBee1978
I soitenly was,pal..the Foistest.
Concerning which, if you re-read my last submission ...you will find that I shamefacedly ADMITTED that dishonorable act of Apostasy...in my usual adumbrational way, unfortunately... but, Neverthemore... I did... Honestly!... I sure did!
I am a wee bit Nuts.. but I am not Crazy!....
I will not even attempt to Prophesize the Final Destination of this League Flag...
No sirree.. bob!
Kojo.
yer pal ....who just luvs yer nomme de blog!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: celtic_to_the_core
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:34
COMMENT-BODY:Hail Hail one & all!
I am just about to spark open the champers before heading out in Manchester city centre to celebrate my girlfriend getting a new job, and todays result makes it even sweeter.
Thank you Bhoys, & WGS.
Special praise to Gary Caldwell who I thought had another excellent OF match.
Hope everyone enjoys their night as much as me!
Forza Viola on Thursday!
Manchester CSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: smelltheglove
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:37
COMMENT-BODY:White flags fly as Rangers scurry home
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: thebhoyblack
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:38
COMMENT-BODY:Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo.
Quite incredible, he'll do!!!
I sit right next to them and to go from feeling my seat move as they bouncied to the end of the game magic.
One complaint fat eddie murphy chant has no place at the park and anti novo chant to the tune of a hymn not on. Nothing compared to their filth but still not the Celtic way!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: geebee1978
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:40
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo....
The destination is, as you say, "in the lap of the Gods"
I don't want to expect too much as it makes the pain greater if it doesn't materialise...but......I'm beginning to dream that dream......I can't help it.
The momentum is with us and you can see the pressure building.
Oh how I wish we also had more games....We're breathing down their necks and they can't wait for the season to end.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Harry's hoody
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:42
COMMENT-BODY:test
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:46
COMMENT-BODY:Pfayr, from memory I think it’s 2.
Geebee1978, good point.
Watching the game right now, Celtic have just been awarded a penalty; let's hope...
I think Robson is going to take it.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:47
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear,dear,dear, friend.. Greenwell's Glory...
Right ye be...palomine...that line was used by the
The Immortal....Georgie M....er.er.... James..Why is it I always mix them up?
You didnae think that I had made that piece of business up?( Prepo Alert! Danger! Danger! Will Robinson!...ed)(Dr.Smith....where ur ye...when Ah need ye?)
Anybody, who is Anybody ,knows that I plagiarize Everything from Everybody, who is Anybody!
Nice tae see that ye are a Movie Buff...
Every time I look at my Bank Book... I am eternally grateful for folks like you.
Kojo.
yer pal... who believes that you are a fellow soul-mate,pal.
And that is a good thing tae be.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bhoy Sean
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:49
COMMENT-BODY:Rangers form over 90 mins in the previous 13 games.
Celtic 3 - 2 Rangers
Rangers 0 - 0 Fiorentina
Rangers 0 - 0 St Johnstone
Celtic 2 - 1 Rangers
Partick 0 - 2 Rangers
Sporting 0 - 2 Rangers
Dundee United 3 - 3 Rangers
Rangers 0 - 0 Sporting
Rangers 1 - 0 Celtic
Rangers 2 - 1 Hibs
Rangers 1 - 1 Partick
Dundee United 2 - 2 Rangers (Rangers will on penalties)
Werder bremen 1 - 0 Rangers
Their form is abysmal: 6 draws, 3 defeats, and won only 4. They would have two more wins if I went for the full time results rather than the standard 90 minutes but it's in 90 minutes which they'll have to win their remaining games not through penalty shoot-outs. their victories haven't been convincing either: they were barely in it against us, they were sluggish against hibs, and one of their victories was against lower league opposition. Sporting was well taken though.
With more injuries and suspensions and with this significant psychological blow it is highly likely that they'll drop more points. Not long left though so if they might be able to hang on. Hopefully we can win our remaining games.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Billy Stark's Telescopic Heid
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:52
COMMENT-BODY:Just watching game again on Satana. After Skippy's goal he's celebrating with Aiden when Mick comes in to, but Skippy immediately shoves him in the face and walks away with a face like a R***ers fan chewing a green pepperami.
Anyone got any ideas what that's about?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:58
COMMENT-BODY:BillyStark,
Aye, you had a hand in shipping two goals. Sick and tired with you doing that, then clapping your hands to look that you are a captain and making out it's not your fault.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: StevieS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:58
COMMENT-BODY:Paul,
Told you I was looking forward to your "victorious" post. A great day had by all eh? :-)
But I would have to say that IF the keeper had gone to his right, this board would be full of "what a crap penalty" ! Coz, if I'm honest, it was. But who cares? IT WENT IN!! :-)
WGS,
"Threw himself at everything in the closet" ??
We'll have NO Caldwell bashing today if you don't mind!
;-)
p.s. Ah telt yeez AGES ago that he's player.
lovetosayItoldyeso.csc
a.k.a. smuggit.csc
a.k.a. cantwipethesmileoffmyface.csc
:-)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 18:59
COMMENT-BODY:BSTH
Lets hope that it was because Mick didn't shave and Skippy didn't want a stubble burn.
I hope it is something like that I would hate to have dissension in the team when we have the Huns on the run.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Malcolm
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:00
COMMENT-BODY:It is indeed!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Han Solo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:03
COMMENT-BODY:A wise man told me during the week-
"The Good Guys will come to the rescue on Sunday."
And so it came to pass.
Wise men are very rarely wrong.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:05
COMMENT-BODY:Thank you Gordon, thank you Wee Scott, and a big thanks to Barry Robson, imo he was the missing link, keep him in the team and we will be just fine.
Even if we don’t win the league, at least we have blown the cardie jinks clean out the water and are making them sweat all the way to the finishing line, well done Gordon Strachan.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: b2k
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:07
COMMENT-BODY:Just checking in after missing the blog for a week or so. I'm a very happy happy clapper with the one wee prob of hearing Talk radio stating that DoL is still lined up for the Celtic job. I thought that this nonsense had been well kicked into touch. Please tell me I'm right. I want us to start a 'Gordon must stay campaign'. Is this a good time?
Hail hail and here's to 3 in a row!
Its gonny happen!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dalgety bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:12
COMMENT-BODY:Italiabhoy,
One of the best holidays of my life was spent in a villa over the valley from Barga. It's a lovely lovely spot and the links with Glasgow are huge. They didn't have the YNWA flag when I was there but they did have Saltire bunting which was nice.
On the game today fantastic performance to come back from a goal down against a team whose raison d'etre is defending.
Wattie was going ballistic in the second half. It's good to see his mask slipping recently. He really is a despicable human being.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:12
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear,dear friend...Stuart..
Bobo the Winner of Headers!
You are absolutely correct, pal...
Bobo would have... in my own opinion ,as well.. have prevented those goal losses,as he is a re-incarnation of the fabled, "SPRING - HEELED JACK!"
If Bobo could improve in certain other areas, he would be my automatic choice, for the C.B. position...
Howevvvvvvvvah...
His other deficiences, out weigh that particular talent,of which we have noted.
My preference for one of the C.B. positions, would be Master Cuthbert... who like Bobo...
Is also a very efficient WINNER of Heading Duels.... Believe me when I say that!
This young fellow..
HAS IT ALL!
He Can Tackle, He can Jump,He can Distribute the Ball,with Pin Point Accuracy, to a colleague...which after watching the DEPLORABLE AND INSUFFERABLE FUTILE ATTEMPTS, BY MR.NAYLOR, this afternoon...to do just that....
Is a talent that we are crying out for!( Prepo Alert! Prepo Alert!...ed)( Ah didnae know that "For" wiz a Prepo...I claim Innocence through Ignorance!)
Kojo.
Yer pal...who thinks yer swell and is noo gangin tae gang oot..wi' Gabby... (Danger! Danger! Will Robinson... She HATES, that Name!...ed)( Noo, that ye mention it...so dae ah!...check dat,then....make that...
The Fair Gabriella!)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: syllawhowasmince
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:13
COMMENT-BODY:well played celtic. a win was needed and a win was delivered. a special mention has to go to scott mcdonald who was superb. i can only recall one bad use of the ball. he played with heart, intelligence and no little skill. well done wee man. barry robson, after a shaky start where he gave the ball away (or a foul) in dangerous positions, he really came on to a game. always wanting the ball and trying to bring naka and mcgeady into the game.
aiden, as always a difficult task being double or triple teamed with little support, but was always dangerous when given something to work with.
naka- superb use of the ball after we scored the second. he showed his class controling the flow of play, winning fouls and passing the ball with great intelligence and economy. when u see movement off naka ( which is rare) you can really se his class. we don't take enough advantage of naka.
i'm a fan of gary caldwell but i don't think he had his best game today. he was losing his aerial battles in the first half and he gave the ball away needlessly with a couple of over ambicious passes.
saying that he did play a couple of superb passes that showed vision and ability. i fell gary is at a point where he has to fulfill his potential and eliminate the silly mistakes or he will fade away. he definately has ability, guts and a certain level of skill, but he needs to be consistant.
although i hate to say it , i think mick is the week link along with naylor ( who i feel isn't so bad defensively but is rank going forward).
whilst we were spirited we waste a lot of possession.
i have been rambling with bad spelling included. all i really want to say is i really hope we win this league! then we can all enjoy it together!
and i hope gordon is here next august and that he's been given sufficient funds to complete the team he's building. no more shortcuts please.
hail hail, 3inarow is still on
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:15
COMMENT-BODY:Just over half an hour to go in Seville.
Betis 0-1 Villarreal.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dennis 47
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:15
COMMENT-BODY:I didn't know that about coming from behind to beat Rangers. It was also Smith's first taste of back to back defeats from us.
What a relief that we played so cooly in the last ten minutes or so. I couldn't have gone the usual torture.
Well done the Hoops!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PJBhoynyc
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:21
COMMENT-BODY:Well Done Bhoys..
Roll On The Future....
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dennis 47
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:23
COMMENT-BODY:Rangers banner today: "We are the people
We will not fail or falter.
We will not weaken or tire."
I think they've got Rudyard Kipling writing their stuff.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:23
COMMENT-BODY:barry robson just scored with the penalty again on setanta
wee hurting hun scott booth sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: syllawhowasmince
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:24
COMMENT-BODY:celtic_first, but i'm hoping we can avoid the ritual at cibeles tonight. bunch of pijo b******s. rubbish fans and a rubbish atmo in the stadium. to be fair sometimes they play exquisite football.
atleti are useless (due to their defense) but at least there is life in the calderon.
mon the celts, n villareal!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:24
COMMENT-BODY:Dennis 47
Couldn't agree more and I agree with the poster earlier who said Nakamura was the key. He'd have scored too if McDonald hadn't turned the wrong way on 87 minutes.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:24
COMMENT-BODY:I PREDICT THAT BARRY ROBSON WILL BE A STAR A CP
his big game performances have been excellent
i`ve just watched him scoring the penalty ....he clearly loves it , such passion of a like that has been missing at times
well done son ..the Celtic shirt isnae too big for you
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:27
COMMENT-BODY:bourne
he really is an odious little merchant banker
i`d love to punch him BTW
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GaryCaldwellCSC
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:27
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo
" I LUV GARY CALDWELL... Gary Caldwell is one of my FIRM FAVORITES!"
So happy someone of your attentiveness has spotted Our Man's qualities, a player yet to play in his true position. What a heart, what vision, what(at times) a passer. A man who gives no quarter and like a good wine, will improve with age.
I see no wrong in our future Maldini.
GaryCalfwellforsweeper CSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Michael Fagan
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:30
COMMENT-BODY:Oh happy day, never mind being second best for 30min and Bobo sitting in the stand. TFOD were spent after 35min and must be seriously worried about where they will get their next win from.
Shame on the huns for their anti-football and their anti-social songs and particularly for cheering the memorial at half time on the large screens. They really are despicable cowards.
Paul67
Do you think that 'the board' have realised that they need to work very hard to re-engage with the support & are the £50 season tickets and todays welcome addition to the matchday playlist evidence of this.
MF
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: roybainestache
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:30
COMMENT-BODY:What a day!
To come back the way we did was great.
Even if we don't win the league pride is restored.
Small gripe about the performance.
When will we ditch the zonal marking at set pieces?
Cousin won almost every hifh ball in thr first half as well.
Well done Paul hartley.
You took a bullet for the team by rattling Captain Couragous.
They give it out but don't like it back.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:30
COMMENT-BODY:the title is now in our own hands.
i firmly believe they they will drop at LEAST four point over their final six games, their away form is patch at best.
the question is, will we win the required three games.
bar for two jammy last day title wins, if we win the league we would be going for another 9iar next season.
GoDcsc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:31
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr
would never get tired slapping him
btw just watching the rerun why does darcheville
kiss the manky backroom geezers hand or ring
- i assume - anybody explain this ritual
the ring on his hand in case you were wondering
watch the replay at the darcheville substitution?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:32
COMMENT-BODY:Syllawhowasmince
Avoid Cibeles at all costs, amigo.
Castro just saved Betis. At 0-2 it would have been all over.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Larkin1907
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:33
COMMENT-BODY:Those Rojadirecta Bhoys know how to put on a show
Enjoy.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Michael Fagan
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:33
COMMENT-BODY:Dennis47
Was that a bulldog on the WATP banner or do you think it might have been a picture of their maw
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: loumacarisbettingslip
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:42
COMMENT-BODY:walter on the wittaker tackle,it was just a tired challenge,"eh" theres me thinking it was a crazy mad desperate frustrated lunge at naka attempting to do him serious injury
Booth is a complete e"rce and should never be let near a microphone again his constant disecting of celtic either by goal, penaly, free kicks, corners, fouls throw ins the price of parkhead pies, the grass is to green, is always in the negative.im amazed that his fellow commentator ian crocker,who by now must be embarassed having to work with this clown,doesnt have a wee word in his ear,either that or my tv is in serious danger of flying through the window
boothgetsonmywick csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: antsman
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:42
COMMENT-BODY:thought today was skippy's best game in the hoops in terms of overall contribution
Goals, held the ball up and drew fouls at crucial times
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dennis 47
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:42
COMMENT-BODY:Michael,
I strained my eyes trying to see what the picture was. I hope the idiots who threw the coin and the phone saw the rib-tickling banner about, "Coins and phones will break my bones". So stupid to give these people ammunition. (so to speak)
I did like the, "Uncle Walter and Anti-football.
An incestuous marriage made in Hell- Ibrox."
The timing of our goals was perfect. To see these bedlamites so suddenly and completely deflated was just sublime.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Patrick
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:45
COMMENT-BODY:Fantastic afternoon at the Johannesburg CSC. Watched the game on Channel 67 and if that victory wasn't enough, we then saw Bloemfontein Celtic thump Thanda Zulu Royals 3-0. B Celtic fans in full voice and even saw some of them showing off the scarves we gave them on our last visit to Bloemfontein.
Sundays don't get better than this!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Patrick
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:45
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:45
COMMENT-BODY:A few random observations from watching the TV rerun of our superb voctory.
Zonal marking at corners is a terrible idea and has to go.
Having said that how did Weir score? he didn't seem to know where he was and the ball came off the back of his head.
How many fouls did they get when our player clearly played the ball first? Bug Jan had two, although he couldn't dispute his booking. Neither could Lee Naylor.
What an idiot Scott Booth is. He really does talk such mince. How about his observation that Rangers couldn't be tired because they started quickly. How did they finish, numpty?
How many fouls did wee Novo commit? Six, seven? I think there should be a rule about persistent fouling.
And what about Barry Bottler? I'd love to see the two Hibs players' bookings for dissent to see if they were any worse that he was all day.
Naka controlled the game in the last ten minutes. What a footballing brain he has.
We should have had a secind penalty right on 90 mins. Definite handball by Dailly.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:46
COMMENT-BODY:the fat burd has put her songsheet away and the game is on..
Lets hunt them down like dogs
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:46
COMMENT-BODY:Did anyone else notice Naka's reaction to being hacked at by Whittaker? Looked like he was about to start his first fight in Scottish football!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:49
COMMENT-BODY:Sellik First -
thanks for that. I am touched, sincerely. Real can wait - today is Celtic's only.
Cesar1967 and other regretters -
that milk is spilt and is of value only to our clever cats. We look forward with confidence. Our towels are for mopping our fevered brows after the effort which secured victory. Our towels are not for spillage or sponge.
Dennis47-
I thought the last five minutes of normal time were excruciating but we rode out added time with great professionalism and secured another triumph therein - we drew their frustration and that fool got himself sent off.
Anyway I'm off to The Teser for my usual Sunday shift. Cheap beer and free smiles....
SLAINTE
The Celtic Way
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Michael Fagan
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:51
COMMENT-BODY:Стахановец
I thought Naka was going to punch him.
Having just seen a replay on youtube, I am more worried about McDonalds reaction to McManus when he tried to celebrate the second goal with him.
It looks like the two of them need to kiss and make up
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:51
COMMENT-BODY:Put that cava away Real Madrid fans.
Full time.
Betis 0-1 Villarreal.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: syllawhowasmince
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:52
COMMENT-BODY:Стахановец
i thouught the same! then ........in an instant......zen.................
great football from naka
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:53
COMMENT-BODY:Villareal and Porto double brings me in another few pounds from the bookmakers today. Tenerife drawing at home with Albacete let me down on a seperate one though. Here's hoping for a Real and Sporting double, and a Brann Bergan, Slovan Liberec and Club Brugge treble!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Patrick
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:54
COMMENT-BODY:And Munster beats Saracens to make the Heineken Cup final!
Fantastic way to end Sunday...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: smelltheglove
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:54
COMMENT-BODY:Steve Davis gets some friendly advice
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:55
COMMENT-BODY:On my comments about Naka, I think not only that, but his general performances in the last few games have shown that he has adapted to the physical side of the game here. I think he would be a fool not to spend another year here.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GaryCaldwellCSC
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:56
COMMENT-BODY:WE don't need Scotland's Shame to lose any more league games, two draws will do if we can win our last three.
Three wins. Three in a Row,
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:57
COMMENT-BODY:bourne
watched the rerun
didn`t kiss his hand
looked like he was sniffing something
maybe a line of coke or speed
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: newsletter
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:58
COMMENT-BODY:There are some on here tonight who still think TFOD have the upper hand.
The TFOD fans I've spoken to think the game is up - they genuinely believe they won't be able to drag themselves over the line.
Hail Hail
P.S. Bournesouprecipe @ 19:23 - what was Scott Booth's reaction when the penalty went in?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kilbowie Kelt
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 19:58
COMMENT-BODY:Dennis 47's mention of Rudyard Kipling earlier, led me to think of how appropriate the wordsmith's greatest work applies to the present Celtic situation......
' If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!" '
Hold on in there, Gordon's Grenadiers...
' If you can keep your head, when all about you.......'
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The Chandlers Bar sounds a wee bit animated tonight, Jonnybhoy.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Patrick
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:00
COMMENT-BODY:With Whittaker out Rangers resources look really stretched. Looked dead on their feet in final 20 minutes. Unfortunately we will need them to drop points at least twice in the next few weeks. Here's hoping the pressure and wear and tear really start to have an effect.
For us? We just need to keep on winning. No easy games in store.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:03
COMMENT-BODY:paul67
there seems to be a consensus re Booth
any chance of asking the SSM to have a look at him
he is in danger of putting Celtic supporters off Setanta ...concerned for the viewing figures ..sponsorship money etc
the guy is a biased clown ..,.who is worse than any former FOD player
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:03
COMMENT-BODY:quick trawl around manky cyberspace shows the general feeling to be that they "still have the advantage because they have three extra games to play"
take out the words "have the advantage because"
they have three extra games to play
add in the words "away from home, and their away form is abysmal"
they still have three extra games to play, away from home, and their away form is abysmal
STAND UP, FOR THE CHAMPIONS!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:04
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:05
COMMENT-BODY:im reading Jock Stein by Archie MacPherson and he tells the pre match team talk at Lisbon.
'You've made history go out an enjoy yourself'
thats class
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:05
COMMENT-BODY:StevieS, on the penalty, perhaps, perhaps not. Could Alexander have got down to it and kept it out?
Han Solo, :-)
Michael Fagan, I believe the match day song list was more to do with getting the result today than anything else. It helped put me in the mood and no doubt a few others too.
The £50 tickets are an attempt to lower the average age of the CP population. Like much of Europe, we are an aging population.
Pfayr, ignore him, he makes no difference.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: loumacarisbettingslip
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:07
COMMENT-BODY:dont you think barry robson christmas came when he signed for celtic ,he looks like and acts like the cat who got the cream ,his constnt smiling and keeping hold of the ball and his genuine exitement just playing for celtic is infectious,his no ego style is great to watch I just think he will go on and become a great celt
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:09
COMMENT-BODY:Lou.... Barry Robson is Alan Thomson
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Michael Fagan
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:09
COMMENT-BODY:Hilarious - a view from one of the dark sides highbrow sites
" FLUKES, FATALITIES AND FLAWED OFFICIATING
You sensed after the first ten minutes that this game was going to have to be one the hard way. A blatant offside goal and a stonewall penalty turned down showed exactly what we were up against. All the more credit to Rangers for turning it around to lead two one. Unfortunately it wasn’t just the officiating that was against us as McDonald fluked one over Alexander just before half time to send us in level.
The second half got no better though and we really looked up against it when Weir had to leave the field injured and was replaced by, of all people, Amdy Faye. Remember him? Yes he is still a Rangers player. With Weir off we didn’t look like ever getting a winner so it was a backs to the wall and defend it out. We didn’t look too bad at that though until, you got it, up steps the referee to give a penalty against a trip by Broadfoot, which was OUTSIDE the box.
When the penalty was dispatched we never looked like getting back into the game that got more and more frustrating as shown by Whittaker in extra time when he lunged in on Nakamura and landed a red card. Probably the last thing we needed with losing Weir as well. The race really hots up now but it is still in our own hands it just adds a little more pressure to the run in. "
you couldn't make it up
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TerryO'Neill
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:10
COMMENT-BODY:bournesouprecipe ah noticed the darcheville sub situation as well the backroom guy give him a small bottle to sniff(amyl nitrate?,glue?).
Thought skippy was outstanding, strength,determination,nous and finishing.
On clyde yesterday Willie Haughey called it correctly he said Rangers were likely to play cousin given darchevile's groin injury.He felt we shoul counteract cousin's threat by playing Bobo prophetic or whit?
Was delighted with the music played today a timely statement of
our history,we should never forget nor feel in any way apologetic for the inextricable link we have with Ireland,i was proud.
As my compadre Han Solo said earlier the Good Guys came to the rescue.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:11
COMMENT-BODY:Right im away out to sit in my back garden in sunnt ghods town with a wee cheeky red wine and read my book.
As I text to TTTT as he is in sunny Italy KTF
God bless and the good guys usually win
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tighnabruaich67
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:11
COMMENT-BODY:Hi all,
Watched the rerun on Setanta when I arrived home, I could not believe what I was listening to from Scott Booth.
It so incensed me I had to email Setanta, below is the email I sent.
I won't hold my breath for a reply.
Dear Sir,
How much longer are we expected to put up with the blatant bias in the match commentary of Scott Booth? he could maybe at least try to appear neutral. He seems to want to dissect Celtics every move adding more negativity than I have ever heard from a commentator. If he cannot be professional enough to at least try and cover up his loyalties maybe he is not suitable for the job.
I waited until after a victory rather than a defeat to drop you a line so my judgement would not be clouded by disappointment, but this man is going to cost your company revenue if he is allowed to continue in this manner.
Regards
T67
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:13
COMMENT-BODY:PS before I go . I thought the ref had a howler and watching part of the re run in the club I was right.
Also can someone tell me when was the last time Artur made a save of note?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:13
COMMENT-BODY:Saviola comes back from the shadows to put Real Madrid 1-0 on 13 minutes.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: smelltheglove
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:14
COMMENT-BODY:walter and ally depart
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:15
COMMENT-BODY:celtic_first or anyone watching the Real game...
What was the song playing over the P.A when Saviola scored?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:16
COMMENT-BODY:Kilbowie Kelt
Chandler's doors will be locked as there will be no room left in there.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BalhamBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:17
COMMENT-BODY:Scott Booth's comments made me turn off the sound to retain my sanity after about 30 mins today. Particulary grating were references to Caldwell's "potential handballs" and "Cousin definitely not offside" after the slowm mo replay clearly showed him at least 3 yards off. £15 p/m is alot of money when you can't even bear to listen to the commentary!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:17
COMMENT-BODY:tighnabruich67:
The Ibrox hordes are doing the exact same thing.
I didn't see too much wrong with Booth's commentary today. I don't think he is biased, and although he sometimes has some comedy moments, he does fine. I remember Kevin Keegan having some crazy moments on commentary but the English took it in good humour. I don't see why we can't do the same with Scott Booth.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: big liam
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:18
COMMENT-BODY:Scott Booth made mark hateley and jock brown look impartial today.
That takes some doing.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Patrick
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:21
COMMENT-BODY:Huns fans on BBC forums raging...
Love it!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:22
COMMENT-BODY:crax
you on the wind up re booth
he is a dreadful/biased/hun sympathising /toadying bar steward
michael fagan
come clean you made that up didn`t you
noticed that no mention was made of Dailly`s blatant hand ball in the 90th min
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:23
COMMENT-BODY:Stakhanov
You said "I didn't see too much wrong with Booth's commentary today" I agree with you I didn't SEE too much either but I HEARD a lot from him that was bias, Hately is more fairer than him.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:26
COMMENT-BODY:I guess I just don't think Scott Booth is a biased commentator. Sure, he is baffling and even hilarious at times, but I think he is just clueless, not biased.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:27
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67,
As i stated the other night if we won today i would love it if PL responded to WS commets. We could crank up the pressure big time.
Is Pete biding his time?
Balde/O'Dea and Caldwell till the end of the season for me. It's amazing how everybody thoguht we were more solid when our captain went off.
PH, BR & GC deserve credit for moaning at him to go off. They knew what was at stake. I reckon big Mick was going to stay on and play the hero role.
Do you see McDonald's reaction to him at the second goal?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:29
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BalhamBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:30
COMMENT-BODY:According to Booth, Rangers scored "2 well worked goals". I must have missed them. Two good corners, two two commited headers, no well worked goals! Clown doesn't do him justice.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dobbo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:30
COMMENT-BODY:Great win today. This really does crank the pressure on Rangers, who will have to come out and beat sides now, away from home, if their season is to be salvaged.
Have not seen the match yet, listened on the radio and it sounds as tough Lee Naylor had another bad day today. Left back really is an area we should sort out in the summer.
Really hope the Holy Goalie stays for next season, ditto WGS.
Watching the Spartak games from earlier in the season, great matches not least because my tip to solve the striking role, Pavlyuchenko, is playing.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:32
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:33
COMMENT-BODY:Aybody thinking that maybe Gordon might be regretting that he should have introduced Robson more quickly to the team? Played him from the start more?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Han Solo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:33
COMMENT-BODY:Barry Robson says-
Get In There !!!
Courtesy of Ralphie of The HBs uncle.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:33
COMMENT-BODY:balham bhoy
clown is used as this is a family site
he is much worse and it doesn`t do him justice
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: StevieS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:35
COMMENT-BODY:WGS,
yep.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:36
COMMENT-BODY:Penalty for Athletic Bilbao in the Bernabéu. Rare as hens' teeth.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:36
COMMENT-BODY:looks like Artur has some competition
The Holy Goalie
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:37
COMMENT-BODY:Casillas saves. Still 1-0.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:39
COMMENT-BODY:anyone got a link to the goals today
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:41
COMMENT-BODY:Ah ah
Something ain't right
I'm gonna get myself
I'm gonna get myself
I'm gonna get myself connected
I ain't gonna go blind
For the light which is reflected
I see thru you
I see thru you
I see thru you
I see thru you
Ya dirty tricks
Ya make me sick
I see thru you
I see thru you
I'm gonna do it again
I'm gonna do it again
Ah ah
I'm gonna do it again
Gotta do right
'Cause something ain't right
Gotta do right
Come on
If you make sure you're connected
The writing's on the wall
But if your mind's neglected
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
Ah ah
Ain't gonna go blind
I see thru you
I see thru you
I'm gonna get myself
I'm gonna get myself
I'm gonna get myself connected
I ain't gonna go blind
For the light that is reflected
Hear me out
Can ya hear me out
Can ya hear me out
Do it again
Do it again
Do it again
Do it again
I wanna do it again
I wanna do it again
I wanna do it again
Ya terrified
Ain't gonna go blind
Ain't gonna go blind
Here we go
If you make sure you're connected
The writing's on the wall
But if your mind's neglected
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
Hear me out
Stumble you might fall
Interstate 5
Stayin' alive
Won't someone try
Open up your eyes
You must be blind
If you can't see
The gaping hole
Called reality
Wanna do it again
I gonna gonna do it again
I wanna do it again
Come on
I'm gonna do it again
Hear me out
Terrified
Something ain't right
Here we go
If you make sure you're connected
The writing's on the wall
But if your mind's neglected
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
Stumble you might fall
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: loumacarisbettingslip
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:41
COMMENT-BODY:dennis47
Rudyard Kipling
we arra the people
we will not fail or falter
we are so weak and tired
jings thats even with bain and walter
and also goat kennymcdowell
thats were weve throwin in the towell
percyshelley csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BalhamBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:41
COMMENT-BODY:Re Barry Robson...."the match has passed him by". Ok, I really shouldn't get so worked up and I shouldnt' frighten my daughter(my 3 yr old tells me not to shout) socommentary is staying off on first viewing from now on.
As for the point about Kevin Keegan, you deserve some lattitude when you were European player of the year at least once if not twice and one of your nation's best ever players. Keegan could talk with authority on playing on the biggest stages. Scott Booth is only there for his analysis ability and it's risible. I can only assume Setanta are paying peanuts and attract the proverbial as a result.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:43
COMMENT-BODY:Stakanovech
Sorry for missing your question earlier. I follow this on Radio Nacional de España and didn't hear the song.
Maybe we can pick it up on YouTube later.
It's good that they had a song for him: he's very much the forgotten man at the Bernabéu.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:44
COMMENT-BODY:Got to say I think Booth is getting a raw deal. I didn't agree with some of his comments today - and thought he called a marginal offside decision far too harshly, but usually I think he is the fairest co-commentator in my recollection of Scottish football. He is allowed to disagree with us - and even get it wrong.
He also came straight out and said that Thomson was guilty of a "blatant dive" and I can't think of any other commentator who would have said so.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: StevieS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:45
COMMENT-BODY:They're on the ropes
Happy sleep tonight :-)
Have a good night all.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:45
COMMENT-BODY:greenlion2 said…
"Lou.... Barry Robson is Alan Thomson"
Disagree - Robson can play centrally, tackle and pass with both feet. Legend in the making, IMO.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:46
COMMENT-BODY:Well, I would bet that if not Scott Booth, it would be someone like Craig Brown on commentary, no thanks!
Scott Booth calls it as he sees it, sometimes right, sometimes wrong, can't ask for more than that.
Thanks anyway Celtic_First!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:46
COMMENT-BODY:Half time in Madrid.
1-0.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Michael Fagan
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:47
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr
I swear to god - that is a genuine c&p direct from www.rangersmedia.co.uk.
Broadfoot in the Herald is nearly as bad - its not often a linesman gets a mention by name for a 'marginal' call.
"Amid this see-sawing spectacle, Craig Thomson exerted admirable authority. This, despite his assistant, Thomas Murphy, creating early tension by not raising his flag for the marginal offside call before McDonald's opening goal. Thomson's willingness to allow both teams to express themselves was a boon to a tigerish Celtic. They bit and clawed at their rivals and ultimately had Rangers at their mercy."
So there you are - Thomas MURPHY has apparently given us a wee break - congratulations to the Herald for not calling him 'Thomas bead-rattling, we fed and clothed him - why won't he go home MURPHY'
Anyway, the offside rule says that there must be DAYLIGHT between the attacker and defender before he can be considered offside. These things will no doubt even themselves out - by my reckoning we will need another key decision in each of our last three games to even up the damage that Mike McCurry has inflicted on us.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:50
COMMENT-BODY:Sir Paul
Critics Corner says...
Hinkel.... not as advertised... and he IS slow!.... yes,Virginia..
The Man is SLOW!
I now hereby state that I am not a Hinkel Supporter.
I have pitched my tent, conspicuously, in MASTER CADDIS'S corner....
Who else do I disfavour?
I am glad you asked....
Mr.Naylor... is definitely a candidate for boarding the boat, to sail into the setting sun... or has his ship already sailed?
Did somebody mention Mr.Wilson?
Big Jan?
Na....
He will never improve... we have squeezed out all of the juice that we are gonna get from that lemon!
He is Slow.
He is Awkward.
He canny jump...well...he kin jump..but.. I dinna know how to explain it..but, fur sich a tall man... He seems to never win the headers that that he should, however, he ayeways wins the wans, that he shouldnae!
In any case...He should be joining Hinkel and Naylor, right there at the Gangway.
Whadya Say? Palomine...
Whatya Say?
Kojo.
Post Scriptum.
Yep! There is Trouble wit' a "T",right here in River City...between Macko and Mick... no ...ifs, ands or 'andshakes!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sir J. Stein
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:51
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr
not the best quality, but this is pretty much how i remember Rosbon's penalty..........especially the bit after he scored
Ya Dancer
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:52
COMMENT-BODY:Michael Fagan
What's the betting that's the end of Tom Murphy's career as a football official?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ElDiegoBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:53
COMMENT-BODY:hunskelper
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: syllawhowasmince
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:54
COMMENT-BODY:there are rumours the scttish spl trophy was heard to be partying to this song after the game.
i'm going home
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:54
COMMENT-BODY:A buzzard took a monkey for a ride in the air,
The monkey thought that everything
was on the square.
The buzzard tried to throw the monkey
off his back,
The monkey grabbed his neck and said,
"Now listen, Jack..."
Straighten up and fly right,
Straighten up and fly right
Straighten up and fly right
Cool down, papa, don't you blow your top.
Ain't no use in divin',
What's the use in jivin'?
Straighten up and fly right
Cool down, papa, don't you blow your top.
The buzzard told the monkey,
You're chokin' me.
Release your hold and I'll set you free.
The monkey looked the buzzard right
dead in the eye and said,
Your story's so touching, but it sounds
jes' like a lie.
Straighten up and fly right
Straighten up and stay right
Straighten up and fly right
Cool down, papa, don't you blow your top.
Straighten up and fly right
Straighten up and stay right
Straighten up and fly right
Cool down, papa, don't you blow - your - top.
Fly right!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:55
COMMENT-BODY:WGS, I don’t think PL should get drawn into Smith’s comments. Smith is doing a fine job for us without any help.
One Star, careful on Alan Thomson, one of the finest midfield tacklers we have seen in decades, who could not only pass with both feet, but could smack them home against Rangers with both feet.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GaryCaldwellCSC
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:56
COMMENT-BODY:At 27/04/08 20:07, Blogger loumacarisbettingslip
we all collectively are the cat.
Our Barry is most certainly the creme de la creme:)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:56
COMMENT-BODY:michael fagan
broadfoot is correct
thomson did exert admirable authority ..sadly only against celtic
the disparity in the foul count in the first 30 mins was astonishing
together with the exercising of blatant double standards
eg JVOH comes in from the side wins the ball..foul
Dailly same ..no foul
i could go on ad longum
lastly
LAST MAN / CLEAR GOALSCORING OPPURTUNITY ...Bentfoot had to go ..the only thing that was missing was no goalkeeper in front of him
Dailly handball .. no penalty ...
maybe we should be happy if the officials are not totally biased
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:57
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic_First: a safer bet is that he will be on the back page (maybe front) of the Record and Sun tomorrow.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: syllawhowasmince
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:57
COMMENT-BODY:seemingly the fancy link thing doesn't work. so....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHw9b4BBV9Y
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Larkin1907
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 20:58
COMMENT-BODY:pfyer
see Rojadirect link earlier.
Best yet.
Or just click here
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:00
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo,
Hinkel was starting to reach peak fitness after his lay off at Sevilla and show his true colurs over recent matches until last weeks injury. Trust me the guy is class.
He was playing today with an injury. Has a hamstring strain. You could tell he was holding back today and wasn't bombing beyond Naka like previous matches. Go easy on the guy. You might see Caddis next week i think so Andreas can be flying for the start of next season.
Super Mac is starting to see what i have been saying for ages. Mick is the weak link along with Naylor. Getting peeved of i think.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:01
COMMENT-BODY:I agree with most on here that Rott Mooth is not fit for the purpose.
I think the ref indicated that he would not allow Mick to be subbed till after the corner was taken.
I thought we looked more solid when O'Dea came on AND when Hartley went off.
Naka, Skippy and Robson closed the game out perfectly. Also Aiden, of course. Ach, they were all heroes.
Neil Lennon is building up a good winning record as a coach.
Could it be that his more pragmatic approach to football complements Gordon's vision of attacking open play? Early days, though.
I wonder if anyone "in the know" can clarify Skippy's reaction to Mick at the second goal.
I wish we had another couple of games against them.
For the second time recently, their upcoming opponents have had two men sent off immediately prior to playing them.Dundee Untd and Hibs yesterday.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:01
COMMENT-BODY:Pfayr,
If you look at the officating closely we do not get a decision until Rangers score.
I´ll also be keeping a close eye on how many of Rangers immediate opponents are sent off by referees using artistic license.
2 Hibs players sent off yesterday for back chat.
How Motherwell players are treated next week should be interesting. If they start picking up needless bookings once we are in control then it wouldn´s surprise me.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GaryCaldwellCSC
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:02
COMMENT-BODY:At 27/04/08 20:10, Blogger TerryO'Neil
There's a thing I always wanted to know Terry yet hear nothing about.....do they have testing in the spl and are the stats available??
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:02
COMMENT-BODY:With regards some of the comments about the referees performance over the course of today, I must say that I do not think there was any bias at all. He seemed to lose his bottle a bit and got a lot of decisions wrong. I think we could have conceded a penalty for handball, and gained one (I think a bit of making things even happened), and various free-kick decisions were bemusing. He even missed an offside decision for 10 seconds or so.
It's a shame, but he had a bad game, and if he learns from it, that's the main thing.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gary67
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:02
COMMENT-BODY:Just back from game, Gary Caldwell, captain's performance even before he got the armband. The weak link is MaManus, when O'Dea came on there was no worries. Naylor is an accident waiting to happen, get Wilson at left back for last 3 games. Robson, great game especially in 2nd half. Scott McDonald's best game in a Celtic jersey. We got the brakes and the decisions for a change. Win the last 3 games and we'll win the league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: One Star Means More
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:07
COMMENT-BODY:Michael Fagan: I've seen that guy's blog and I have to at lest give him credit for speaking out against the BJK garbage, reminding them how he carried the bodies of Rangers fans at the Ibrox disaster.
Otherwise decent Rangers fans posting the sort of stuff you're quoting I have no problem with - putting it in newspapers and calling themselves journalists, I take exception to.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulster-Celt
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:11
COMMENT-BODY:the huns have won only half of their last 12 away in the league. they have to go to murderwell,hibs and aberdeen who all held them at home this season. aberdeen have lost only 2 of their last 12 at home and murderwell and hibs have lost only 3 of their last twelve.
first up is hibs who have won 7 of their last 8 at home only loosing to us.
a good doing on thursday coupled with a couple of injuries and we should be laughing.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:12
COMMENT-BODY:larkin
cheers
a bit perplexed by the Mick/Mac spat at the 2nd goal ...the wee man was not happy
maybe mick`s a round dodger :¬)
Awe naw
i thought that thomson was against us all day we didn`t get a 50/50 all day
he should have sent Bentfoot off and given us a second penalty
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: danny
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:14
COMMENT-BODY:Someone mentioned this previously on here and today was the same; Scott Booth constantly referred to Celtic as the 'home side' while he called Rangers ... Rangers. I know he has a silly accent but surely he can pronounce Celtic ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Michael Fagan
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:15
COMMENT-BODY:One Star Means More
good on him (and some others out there) for speaking against the cowardly and despicable BJK campaign.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: big liam
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:15
COMMENT-BODY:Thom the Thim ,
On the Mick/Skippy thing , it seems it could be just possibly just plain old male testosterone.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BHOYDELL
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:19
COMMENT-BODY:Couple of observations today.
Before the game 6 Rangers players in a wee square in front of away dog out, to do a training session. Darchiville gave Chris Boyd a vest that meant he was in the middle, Boyd refuses to be "het" huge argument followed by Boyd throwing the vest down and going in the huff, priceless.
Sitting beside us in the south stand, Shay Given, Damien Duff and another two players from England, sang every song and celebrated like maniacs at every Celtic goal,scarfs hats the lot, good on yeh.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Mick
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:20
COMMENT-BODY:The quote from the huns used today
"We shall not fail or falter.We shall not weaken or tire.
(Give us the tools and we will finish the job)"
Was from Winston Churchill.Yet again they like to use a siege mentality, superior complex against us.
Mind you don't know if the last part is in reference to the referees who officiate Celtic games!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: glasgow bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:21
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo,
Herr Hinkel has hardly had time to unpack his bags and you have him dispatched to the knackers yard. Give the lad a break - he may not have had his best game in the hoops today although I can only recall a single occasion where a hun got in behind him.
I think you'd be better served turning your attention to our captain who had the latest in a long run of poor performances.
There's much to criticise in this defence but why not lay off the German internationalist who's been with the club for a less than half a season. The end of next season will be the time to judge this promising full-back.
On other matters, by my reckoning (and I'm putting my arithmetical credentials on the line here) the huns have averaged 1.8 pts per away game so far this season. Based on this average, with four remaining away games, that would give them a further 7.2 points. Rounded down to 7 and assuming they take full points from their remaining homne games, that would give them a points total of 88pts.
That's ignoring their current abject form, injuries, suspensions, tiredness, gruelling (but self-inflicted) schedule and low morale.
Winning our 3 remaining games will give us a grand total of 89pts.
"Tell all the huns you know, that it's gonna be 3 in-a-row"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GM
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:22
COMMENT-BODY:Tremendous result today that piles pressure on the Hun.
It could unravel quickly if Fiorentina can get a result.
Personally I think it's up to Hibs and Dundee Utd to do us a favour.
St Mirren have nothing to play for. Tango & Sash will not prepare their team properly and although Mark McGee will certainly prepare Motherwell, I'm not sure the four ex-Huns in his team will have the same application. There's no going back when you've sold your soul to teh devil.
I really enjoyed the half time sing song today, which had the hairs on the back of my neck standing up.
I'd appreciate it if someone could post a link to the song played at half time.
Cheers.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:22
COMMENT-BODY:GaryCaldwellCSC
I presume you are referring to Darcheville's hand sniffing?
I noticed that also. Coupled with the pill popping prior to the extra time against St. Johnstone, The question of testing within the SPL came to my mind. I know they have or used to have it at the Scottish Cup Final, as that is how Alan Stubbs' cancer was spotted.
At the time of the mass defection from the Scotland squad recently, the thought of random drug testing did cross my mind.
MedsunderthebedCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:23
COMMENT-BODY:Pfayr,
We never get 50/50´s in this situation.
JVOH should have walked as well. I was as amased as the cardigan that he didn´t red card him.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:24
COMMENT-BODY:big liam,
Is that that big bar of chocolate you get at airports?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: brigtonbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:24
COMMENT-BODY:Under Pressure
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:26
COMMENT-BODY:Fantastic result and so well deserved! Cajones? We've certainly found ours for the run in!
Interestingly today discussing the seasons remaining twists and turns, my best mate who's a gers fan seemed bemused when I asked if he was getting nervy! eh?
He asked why would he be nervy and said they could easily afford to draw a couple of games cos they still had so many games in hand...... until I pointed out that IF they did precisely that and drop 4 points and we WON our 3 games then goal difference would decide the title......
Now I believe there's alot of Gers fans out there who simply have not realised that after 2 celtic wins this is a lot closer than they ever wanted it to get.
I see Hibs taking something off them next week....after a mighty european effort they will find it very tough I'm sure with tired legs and injuries. Easter road nevers seems an easy venue for either of us at the best of times.
Now we must start against M'well and play like champions winning by a few goals........
Never thought we'd be back in for this title but we are...... so Hail Hail !! C'mon the hoops!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:27
COMMENT-BODY:Still playing catch-up but just wanted to say. Many, many thanks to Oldtim and smashing milk bottles for allowing me to get to the game and a big thank you to the other blogger who offered me a ticket, you know who you are !
Great to meet Smashin today for the first time and great to bump in to TinyTim who I hadn't seen for a good while. His posts may not be the view of most on here, but this Mhan's commitment and LOVE for our club can never be questioned.
Sitting in the tin can, Rebs belting out, a cheeky wee red in the glass and wallowing in a triumphant CQN after a well-deserved humping of the huns. Does life get any better than this ????
Wadaya mean !!?? get out and "socialise ??" I am, just doing it amongst my "cyber" friends :o)))
GS almost signed his own death warrant today by playing LN, As I expected, our worst performer. It's wee things like this that gets on most of our nerves. MW made far more sense, so why take the gamble Gordon. Not having a go here on such a memorable day, just pointing out to him (if he reads !) that most of us thought this was his only failing today, playing a favourite.
Thought GC was imperious and not for the first time in recent weeks. Just listen tae yer Uncle Whitedog :o)))
pablophanque
Ps, you bin tae the docs yit Auld Yin ???
Pps, passed a bus on the way to OT's house and taking up the whole back window ??? A Tricolour with a letter occupying each colour !!!??? Make it easy for them why don't you :o(
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:28
COMMENT-BODY:I thought Mac Donald went some way to burying the ghost of Black Sunday today. Not that I have ever held it against him. It will be more so if we go on and win the league. I hope Jackie Mac still has some input up in Aberdeen especially if Black Sundays are anything to go by. I think some of the Dons players would do it just to spite the two Jimmies.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BigChipSuk
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:28
COMMENT-BODY:Another cracker from that bastion of accuracy and impartiality, the BBC... check out the caption for picture 5. Obviously WGS thought he'd try to confuse the huns by getting Big Jan to play in Lee Naylor's shirt!
But I must give them credit where it's due. At around 6.50am today, the sports presenter on BBC Breakfast actually apologised to the Celtic fans for his incorrect claims that Rangers were on course for an "unprecedented quadruple".
Chris Hollins mentioned that he had received "an email from a Celtic fan" (the other 59,999 emails must have been blocked by his spam filter!) pointing out that in 1967 Celtic had won five trophies. And sports presenter (usually done by Chris Hollins, of course, but not today) acknowledged his error and apologised. Just a shame you were all still in your beds and missed it! I saw it as I was just heading off out to the match (and I just got back an hour ago!).
In any case, given that Celtic won five trophies in 1967, does that not mean that it will be an unprecedented quadruple, should Rangers achieve it?!
Hopefully they'll have to make do with a different unprecedented quadruple from the one they had in mind... namely the Scottish Cup, League Cup, and the Youth League & Cup double.
Meanwhile, Celtic could yet coomplete their very own unprecedented quadruple of SPL Champions, Reserve League and Cup double, and Ladies Cup winners!
Sir J. Stein & Newsletter, re: earlier comments on whether Rangers still have "the advantage"... yes they do. Their destiny is in their own hands. Even IF Celtic win their remaining games, Rangers will win the SPL Title if they win 5 of their last 6.
For Celtic to be Champions again Rangers have to fail to win at least 2 of their next 6 league games. Bearing in mind that they have won 12 (and drawn one) of their last 13 league games against teams other than Celtic, I'm not as confident as some that they will self destruct.
Aye, they have a lot of games still to play, but if they were only playing one game a week they'd be training 4 or 5 times a week. As it is they'll be playing 3 times and training twice per week instead.
Finally a question...
I got 2 Paradise Windfall tickets today and completely missed the draw at half time. How/where can I check my numbers to see if I have won anything? Or have I blown it by not checking at half time?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:29
COMMENT-BODY:Robben makes it 2-0 for Real Madrid.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:30
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67
SMD...
told ye so
God bless
u m c G
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:31
COMMENT-BODY:Higuaín makes it 3-0.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bournesouprecipe
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:32
COMMENT-BODY:newsletter
just watched it again and I'll swear as most have noticed on here scott booth was sick as a parrott
sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott sick as a parrott
hail hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:32
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear,dear,dear, friend... WGS.
Far from it, for me to disagree with you...but... on second thoughts... that's a lie!( Ye jist took the woids oot o' Ma mooth,there...ed)( Is that why they were so soggy?)
But, Herr Hinkel is simply a SLOW MOVING GUY.
When I say he is Slow... I mean he is SLOW...but, not in the sense that he is PHYSICALLY SLOW.... although...again, on second thoughts... He is THAT,as well!
Ach!
Ah gie up!
Hinkel is SLOW...that's it!
The last time that I mentioned that the German was not playing like I expected that he would...well...play... You happened to mention that he was recovering from an injury, was out of match practice...and....
Hey!
Is that not what you are saying again?
Or is it just DEJA VU, that I am experiencing?....
Say it's no So, JOE!
I am not a supporter of Herr Hinkel...
Did I tell you that,before... Hey mebbe, I didnae....
If Ah Didnae...
Then I am tellin' you now!
However, I do agree that Mr.Naylor is a Lost Cause.
Big Mick has just Lost, whatever admiration that Mr. Strachan had for him, when he appointed him KAPITAN...that dis-illusionment... to be more precise, will be more in the eyes of Macko, I should have said.
I really do not know if Mick is now out of favour with the Manager....
Although, if he is Not... then HE DARN WELL SHOULD BE!
It is not, the job of the Captain ,to cause Dissension and Acrimony in the ranks..not according to HOYLE, that is.( Ur we playing at cairds,noo?....ed)( Well somebody is.. and let's hope that he plays his cards right!)
Great Day in the Morning...the day... wizn't it,then?
Ya Betcha!
I have a feelin' that...well...
I better no say... but, I sure hiv goat that soiten feelin'!
Kojo.
yer pal... who likes ye a loaaat.
Kojo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:35
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo, Herr Hinkel took a long time to grow on me, but I think he has the making of a fine Celtic player.
Big Jan? I have just given him big licks in my forthcoming article.
Remember, when changing a team you cannot change everything at once…
Bhoy Dell, I would take Damian in a minute.
Brightonbhoy, thanks for that youtube link, I’ll use it.
Ulysses, you sure did.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dobbo
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:40
COMMENT-BODY:Paul
I disagree. I believe you can change the whole dynamic of a team with 2/3 changes.
For us, we need to sort out the strikers... particulaly at home, we struggle to break resiliant sides down, hence the spread of results, we seem to either thrash teams or just win, or drop points.
Had we won all our games at home... which is not too unrealistic an expectation, the SPL would be dead and buried by now!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:43
COMMENT-BODY:Just a wee quicky before I come back. Did anyone else notice BR giving it big licks after the hun's goals ? Clapping and cajoling all his team mates to keep their heads up. I couldn't post at the time, but I for one wanted BR to be signed as soon as it was mentioned as a possibility. It's nice to get one right every now and then :o)
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:47
COMMENT-BODY:Full time. Real Madrid 3-0 Athletic Bilbao.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: newsletter
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:49
COMMENT-BODY:Bigchipsuk - "Rangers will win the SPL Title if they win 5 of their last 6"
If Wigan win 5 out of every 6 matches next year they will win the Premiership.
Wigan have won two of their last five.
Rangers have won one.
Trust a stranger on this one (if you care to look at my post from the last thread my reasoning will become clear)
IF CELTIC WIN THEIR REMAINING THREE GAMES THEY WILL BE CHAMPS.
Bournesouprecipe - thank you for the confirmation.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: jeez_I_thought_blinker_was_pants
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:49
COMMENT-BODY:Watched the re-run earlier on Setanta, although Scott Booth talks utter mince at times, he did mention that we should have had a penalty when Dailly handled, Booth even reckoned it was deliberate! Watching the slo-mo you could see why.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:50
COMMENT-BODY:Barry Robson like Paul Hartley, Paul Lambert, Alan Thompson before him knows he has been presented with an opportunity to play for a big club at an age when someplayers think it might not happen.
Unlike some players who get the opportunity at a younger age these guy's appreciate it more as they have `worked their knackers off to establish themselves as a player that can play at a big club and don't won't to throw it away. Waited quite a bit of time to get an opportunity and they aim to grasp it as best they can.
Hence the performances you see in these guy's. They have had to acheive it the hard way.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:27/04/08 21:50
COMMENT-BODY:Dobbo, we are talking at cross purposes. I agree, a team can change completely by changing a couple of players, but you cannot change too many players at once.
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TITLE: 10 man Motherwell win at Celtic Park
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 4/06/2008 01:41:00 PM
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BODY:
Motherwell led for almost an hour at Celtic Park and for most of this period played with only 10 men; however, an anaemic Celtic not only failed to score, but were comfortably accommodated by the Motherwell defence all afternoon.
The game opened positively enough for Celtic with Scott Brown in particular impressing, but Motherwell stuck to their task and Celtic were unable to craft a genuine chance.
Simon Lappin scored the only goal of the game after Artur Boruc’s save from a Marc Fitzpatrick shot bounced back into play. It was the only clear opening of the game and despite having ample time to recover their game; it was evident that early that Celtic were in trouble.
Samaras replaced McDonald after an hour and Robson came on for Donati ten minutes later to no effect. Ben Hutchinson made a three minute appearance towards the end and played most of that time alongside Boruc, who came forward for a corner kick and stayed up in search of an equaliser.
Celtic started the day still with a real prospect of winning the league, but if they cannot beat a 10-man Motherwell team at home their chances of winning the stiffer tests that are to come are slight.Labels: Match Report
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: neverbeten
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 13:43
COMMENT-BODY:Is this a first 1st for me? Doubt it, but God loves a trier....
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ArdRi1014
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 13:45
COMMENT-BODY:oh well, another day. I want to ban text messaging. Never had as many as last night.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tomdickfoolery
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:01
COMMENT-BODY:Ahh, podium.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tomdickfoolery
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:01
COMMENT-BODY:Any info on the shocking news from last night?
GAWF
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: glasgow bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:03
COMMENT-BODY:Paul,
Do you have a feel for the liklihood of a managerial change between now and the start of next season? I feel it's now inevitable.
There's hardly another top club side in Europe that depends so much on their support base to generate income. There are clear signs of disillusionment amongst a significant proportion of our support which has resulted in dwindling attendances and I assume falling income (both match-day generated and merchandising.) If the status quo remains, this will inevitably result in a fall in season ticket sales - which will result in a domino effect - as the number of season ticket sales fall so the number of available match tickets increases - as supporters realise that they can pick and choose their games, so they are less likely to buy season tickets - and so the vicious circle continues.
This dommsday scenario is now almost upon us and must have the board seriously concerned. What do they do about it? What will the result be if they continue with Gordon Strachan?
Catastrophic I say.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:04
COMMENT-BODY:Ulysses, no, I was not sitting on that article, I was up for the fight to win the league, but yes, it did hurt.
Winningemmell, you are v welcome.
Bryce, I did say I would wait until the end of the season, but we all have to speak our minds. I could have written a lot more, but that’ll wait for another day.
Antsman, changing manager is a high risk decision, there are no guarantees that we will be able to recruit someone of the calibre required. There is also never a good time to make this decision, team plans take months to gestate, but I don’t think there is any way back now.
ArdMacha, you are welcome.
DundeeBhoy, your comment on the previous article has been deleted, not for you defence of the profanity you chanted at the Celtic Park yesterday, but for your language on this (a Celtic) blog.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: b2k
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:04
COMMENT-BODY:The Scotsman is carrying an article which once again is negative to Celtic, saying
"Keane says it was mistake to join Celtic after United bust-up" Written by a guy called
By Ewing Grahame
Other papers seem to report that Roy Keane talked about leaving Man U yet their stories don't mention him regretting that he went to Celtic. I suspect that Ewing Grahame has added that bit himself but if someone can tell me otherwise I apologise to him.
If though that is the case I'm wondering if we can find out more about this guy. We seem to allow reporters to say what they like and never look at them as persons with agendas. Who is Ewing Grahame and why does he tell lies about Celtic?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greensmurf1988
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:05
COMMENT-BODY:Re: Last thread
The behaviour of our fans was called into question when looking at the abuse that WGS endured. I am of the quiet persuaion when watching a game but yesterday proved to be too much - I freaked. a lack of character and lack of understanding is the biggest crime that I can bring against our manager, he has no idea about our beloved club, rather he is in his own words 'managing the group'. In many ways he brought yesterdays abuse on himself, in yet another sarcastic interview he vented that 'if they pay their money then they are entitled to their opinion'. Well Gordon, you got it yesterday - thanks for the two leagues and the last 16s but the time has come for us to part - close the door on your way out.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Chris Suttons slippers
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:10
COMMENT-BODY:I know that most of this will have been mentioned yesterday but I was too depressed to read the boards last night.
I don't want to focus on the glory hunters that were spouting that bile at the end of the game. True supporters they are not. My friend who sits next to me had to physically restrain his cousin as he tried to swing for one of said glory hunters who'd came down the staircase singing that mince. I don't condone his actions and we I'm glad we stopped him before it got anymore serious but it was a personal low point for me this season. I was lifted a moment later if only too briefly by joining in with other fans who had remained in the stadium, to drown out the idiots.
I won't go over the match too much but I'd like to highlight the Hutchinson debacle although I'm sure it's been mentioned before. He goes to warm up around the 76min mark. Spends about 5 mins warming up and then is called back to the bench. Strips and waits. Then proceeds to put his top back on. A minute later he is going through what looked like at least three pages of tactics!! Surely with a few mins remaining all that needs to be said is get in the box and get on the end of something, anything, please! He then comes on as a sub, replacing the player that is furthest away from the bench. No wonder Hinkel was mystified. If you're going to take anyone off how about going for the other fullback that is nearest the god damn dugout!
At that point I started wondering if the lunatics had taken over the asylum...
Yet today I awake and hope with all my heart that a miracle can still be achieved. If not, I'll be there again for next season. Same seat.
We are Celtic supporters faithful through and through.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WillieMillersBushyTache
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:19
COMMENT-BODY:Can't believe you have handed Rangers the league flag so limply.
Strachan is a decent man, no matter what you think of his Management skills.
However, I agree with most of the opinions on this board. It's time for him to stand down.
WMBT
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:22
COMMENT-BODY:If I’m not mistaken PFayr, you are a lawyer, I’m not, but in my very, very limited experience of lawyering… the pertinence was always the “question”.
My question would be… not how we gave a goal away, but how such a superior team, such as ours, could fail to score.
And for me, I don’t think the answer lies in the quantifiable abilities of our starting strikers.
And PFayr, no matter what crap populates my day, I will never, ever, wrongly accuse.
I would rather bite off my tongue.
Have a good day??? My day is over but when I wake up tomorrow - I will still be a ‘pristine’ Celtic supporter. I will keep my faith and that faith is mine.
I will still be grown up and looking for adversity in a square go.
If you want my kids have grown out of their dummies so there are one or two going to a good home. Should come with a Government Health warning though: like whingeing - they can be addictive.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: billyjoe
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:24
COMMENT-BODY:Never have I booed our team or manager. Until yesterday that is.
I do understand and sympathise with those who think we should only give support. But there is a limit to unconditional support, and that limit has now been reached.
We are watching our team being run into the ground. Slowly. Several records have been broken in the last few months, all of them negative: worst defensive record away from home, worst record in successive games against Rangers,scoring record in home games....etc.
Worst of all, I watched ugly scenes break out around around the stadium towards the end of yesterday's game. When this happens it has gone too far.
The board must act and quickly.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: adidaskick
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:26
COMMENT-BODY:Strachan is NEVER a Celtic manager. End of. When you start accepting mediocrity, this is what you get. Caldwell, Virgo, Dublin.....Naylor hahahaha...honest to God...ask yourself this. Would O'Neil have made McManus the captain of Celtic?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stuart
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:28
COMMENT-BODY:well that's it for me. Rangers may throw the league away in the remaining weeks, but even if we win the league Strachan must go. He's proven his incompetence in the last month, and even were Rangers to demonstrate greater incompetence, Gordon is not to be trusted with another season. We need a new manager in soon to work out what quality there really is in the Squad, and if there's anyone who can lead it. After they've got that done they need to start building for the CL qualifiers. We have to start this process now, rather than continuing to 'wait and see'.
Decision time has come and gone, it's time for action.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Benny Cake
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:31
COMMENT-BODY:"there is a limit to unconditional support"
Better known as conditional support.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:35
COMMENT-BODY:SMC
Your failure to reply in terms other than thinly veiled abuse says more about you than me
i was being sincere ...you obviously are not
as for dummies there are enough posters here can cover that
anyway we may catch you at your annual game
have a good day tommorrow
night night
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: adidaskick
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:37
COMMENT-BODY:Is it to much to consider this one of the worst seasons in the past twenty years? We've got money, the stadium, rollover hot dogs and pink scarves for the ghirls.....any chance of finding a centre half behind the pie stall??
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:38
COMMENT-BODY:Glasgow bhoy, I have no information on what will happen, but for a whole lot of reasons I believe we will have a new manager next season.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:39
COMMENT-BODY:Dundee United 1 Rangers 0
Kalvenes 38 minutes.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:39
COMMENT-BODY:GOAL
come on the ARABS
Where there`s life there`s hope
1-0 DU
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Hunza Rugli
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:41
COMMENT-BODY:1-0 to dundee utd.
When you watch this utd team totally dismantle the huns having been put together on a shoestring - it shows how wrong Gordon Strachan has got this season.
Thanks for the memories Gordon, but even you must admit yourself that time is up.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:41
COMMENT-BODY:PFayr:
which particualr point, of any of your earlier, (or mine) posts would you want me to disuss?
Lee Naylor? Scott Brown?
Just point me in the right direction and I'll happily oblidge (debate).
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: fourstonecoppi
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:43
COMMENT-BODY:mon the hoops
mon the miracle
1-o arabs
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: hail hail
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:43
COMMENT-BODY:Black Saturday
hail hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:43
COMMENT-BODY:A minute after the goal McCulloch dives in late on a United player and gets booked.
Rattled a little?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:44
COMMENT-BODY:1-1.
Weir equalises with a header from a free-kick right on half-time.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: adidaskick
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:45
COMMENT-BODY:Is Kris Boyd a textbook hun or what?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:46
COMMENT-BODY:The free-kick came from a blatant dive by Boyd two yards in front of the linesman.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: adidaskick
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:47
COMMENT-BODY:...mmm.sectatarian singing perhaps?? Maybe Daryll King won't hear it 'up in the gantry'???
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:49
COMMENT-BODY:goal for huns
in their first attack
same old same old
another undeserved free kick leads to an undeserved goal
1-1
SMC
it`s not worth the effort ....sarcasm being the lowest form of wit
football comments deserve football retorts
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:50
COMMENT-BODY:I go out to work on a Monday morning
Tuesday I go off to honeymoon
I'll be back again before it's time for Sunny-down,
I'll be Steamin on a Sunday afternoon
Bicycling on every Wednesday evening
Thursday I go waltzing to the Zoo
I come from Gartcosh town, I'm just an ordinary guy,
Fridays I go painting in the Louvre
I'm bound to be proposing on a Saturday night (There I goes again)
I'll be steamin on a Sunday
steamin on a Sunday
steamin on a Sunday Afternoon.
Yes lads nothing else for it.Off Tommorow sorrows being well and truly drowned.Think of the Positives:New Manager,New Players,Great close Season Anticipation,Packed House Pre-Season Frendlies,Merchandising thru the roof.
Its gonnae be good,So put the Wifes And Weans oot get yerselfs a Hawf and put two fingers up to the lot of them.
We are Down but never out.
STRACHAN MUST GO NOW!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Parkheadcumsalford
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:56
COMMENT-BODY:I tried to post but it was lost in cyberspace.
I haven't posted because I am sick like everyone else. My auld Dad said to me immediately after the game that now is the time to get behind the team. He is right, of course. I can't do otherwise. It's in the soul.
I don't agree that the attendances are dwindling at Celtic Park because of our manager (personally, I think it is more to do with the poor fare of the SPHell).
But if we're going to replace Gordon Strachan, then it is better it were done NOW, so that the new man can prepare for next season. Otherwise, we might face another Artmedia.
Who might come in who is better than our manager I have no idea. To me, it is a very risky strategy.
Hurting but still heartened to be a Celtic supporter.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 14:56
COMMENT-BODY:nelsbhoy
WTF...
sounds like your having a good day
don`t let the bar stewards drag you down
hail hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:01
COMMENT-BODY:pf
Stay on and join in on a good old Celtic Singalong.
BTW, they scumbags are not allowed on my Telly.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:02
COMMENT-BODY:It seems now the vast majority have concluded that Gordon is not the man to take us forward.
There are still 7 games to go, and the pressure to bear from the stands with every missed pass \ bizzarre substitution that Gordon makes will be heard from the stands......that will not make Celtic Park a congenial place to play this beautiul game.
My point?
Should the board ask Gordon to stand down NOW, today, this week?
And ensure he's not the man in charge next week or do they face the possibility of the diehard away supporters at Fir Park who have been known to be a tad more vocal, literally giving Gordon a real nightmare of a day singing for him to 'be on his way'?
I reckon having Willie Mcstay \ Lenny sharing the burden till the end of the season may well get some reactions from players who look like they won't \ didn't do it for Gordon.
Thoughts cos I don't want to see \ hear fans screaming at Gordon and I supsect neither does he?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:02
COMMENT-BODY:PFayr:
Neither wit, nor sarcasm, was present in any of my posts.
Derision of Scott Brown and Lee Naylor were part of your posts. Can you ,hand on heart, in retrospect; stand by your earlier damnation?
Factuality is not worth the effort; and that from a crown prosecutor??????????
What price Truth?
What chance anybody?????????
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:03
COMMENT-BODY:nelsbhoy
they are welcome on mine as long as they are not winning
mon the ARABS
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:06
COMMENT-BODY:SMC
CROWN PROSECUTOR
HA HA
you`ve definately got the wrong guy
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:06
COMMENT-BODY:stoir
Get yerself a Carry oot and chill man.Its the Dawn of a new era.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: celticlover
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:08
COMMENT-BODY:Paul,
Thanks for
"I have no information on what will happen, but for a whole lot of reasons I believe we will have a new manager next season."
I am still too depressed to even contemplate a Match Report but your opinion re. the future gives me sustenance. Hope he leaves in a dignified manner.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:09
COMMENT-BODY:PFayr you've got mail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:10
COMMENT-BODY:2-1 ARABS
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:10
COMMENT-BODY:goal
ARABS
2-1
COME ON
THE HUNS ARE REALLY BAD .....GREAT
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:10
COMMENT-BODY:2-1 United.
Noel Hunt header on 51 minutes.
I pondered a bet for United to win 2-1 with Noel Hunt getting a goal, wish I had now!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the long wait is over
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:12
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr
in answer to your question on the last thread
I didnt think much of SB's tracking back , to say the least.
In the end he was actually , tho' , the only one who got close to the motherwell player who got the initial shot off, just not close enough.
Naylor STOPS so far as I can see.
some goals , even the worst , are not one players fault but had anyone of SMCM,SB,LN GC or possibly AH really really burst a gut I doubt theyd have scored.
Perhaps theyve come to rely on AB pulling of save after save which he nearly did.
one way or another it was a terrible goal to lose but as someone posted earlier in the real failing yesterday was in not scoring.
TLWIO
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:17
COMMENT-BODY:2-2.
Novo goes through after a bad attempt at offside. Bit of afters with Wilkie, but no action on either player.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:18
COMMENT-BODY:O-ver and O-ver, we will follow you,
O-ver and O-ver, we will see you through,
We are Celtic supporters, faithful through and through,
and over and over, we will follow you.
If you go to Germany, you will see us there,
France or Spain its all the same,
We'll go any where,
We'll be there to cheer you,
as you travel round,
you can take us anywhere, we won't let you down.O-ver and O-ver, we will follow you,
O-ver and O-ver, we will see you through
If you go to Lisbon, we'll go once again,
In Zaire you'll find us there calling out your name,
when you need supporting, you will always know,
we'll be right there with you, every where you go.
O-ver and O-ver, we will follow you,
O-ver and O-ver, we will see you through.
Heads up cause "WE ARE THE REAL PEOPLE.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:18
COMMENT-BODY:Replay shows Novo was a half yard offside for the goal.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GerryAdams'Beard
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:20
COMMENT-BODY:From previous thread. I know we're all hurting after yesterday, but can I ask again for a bit of perspective? We were desperately unlucky yesterday. How we didn't score I don't know, given the number of chances we created.
Like Paul67 and a lot of other bloggers, I was disappointed with the team that Gordon Strachan started with. But we played well, completely dominated for the first half hour and should have been 2 or 3 goals up by 30 mins, instead we lost out to a well-constructed breakaway goal. I haven't seen stats from the game, but apart from that goal, we completely dominated possession and territory. So my question is, how is it Gordon Strachan's fault that we didn't score? We weren't at fault tactically and we weren't bad defensively.
But we bottled it. And when I say we, I mean the fans as much as anybody. I can't believe the amount of fans who yell abuse at a celtic players for their first mistake in a game. We show a lot more patience at CL games than SPL ones. Yesterday, I could just see it coming - the crowd gets on the players' backs, the players get nervous and panicky, and we end up in a vicious circle. To those 'fans' I would ask how well they would perform at work or at anything else if their every mistake was met with foul abuse? Would they carry on trying to do a good job, or would they stop taking risks, to avoid the abuse every time they made a mistake?
I left Parkhead yesterday utterly dejected. And yes, it was partly because whatever way we look at it, the chances of winning the league this year are fast disappearing over the horizon. But what upset me even more yesterday was the attitude of some so-called fans. The ones who can't wait to shout abuse at our players - and I mean right from kick-off - what's that all about?
And then there's the 'Strachan-haters' - I know there are some who genuinely don't like him personally, whether it's his wise-cracking or the way he treats the media (don't understand this, seeing as we mostly seem to despise the media anyway). For some, it's pretty irrational - they hate the fact that he was a great player in a great Aberdeen team - it's no more rational than people not liking Scott Macdonald because he scored the goals that lost us the league - they were just doing their jobs! You don't need to personally like the manager to support him and the team. But there are some amongst our support, who are a minority within a minority, who are simply bigots. And these people make me sick. And the vast majority of Celtic fans need to tell these people they're not welcome at Celtic Park. End of.
In the dying minutes yesterday, when a group of 'fans' started chanting abuse at our manager, I was proud that the majority of Celtic fans shouted them down and we sang 'faithful through and through' - but I then got abuse from a couple of these 'fans' - for supporting the team!! How do you explain that? It's painful enough when our challenge looks to be over after losing a game we really deserved to win, without so-called fans abusing our team, abusing our manager and then abusing their fellow fans for the apparent crime of supporting our team - while the game is still going on, btw!
I don't know who is going to be manager next year, but I'll give him my full support - as I have done with every Celtic manager - including Barnes, who I thought was a ridiculous appointment. I gave up on Macari, but that's because he wasn't taking it seriously and that is unforgiveable. But you can't say that about Gordon Strachan.
I think our manager's record is as good as Martin O'Neill's. I don't remember MON getting abuse, chants, or anything like the level of supporters calling for him to be sacked.
I know Gordon Strachan has made mistakes - but he has done a great job overall with fewer resources and less money than MON. If he goes, it should be because he's taken us as far as he can AND we can get a better manager in.
I can't help feeling that if he goes now, it will be partly because he's never had the support of a sizeable minority of the fans - and amongst those, a minority of bigots.
We can't expect to win the league every year and we can't sack every manager who doesn't win the league. This is a young team - they and Gordon Strachan will have learned a lot this year. Personally, I think Gordon Strachan has done enough to deserve another year - but I do worry that he seems to have a stubborn streak....
Hail, Hail!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:22
COMMENT-BODY:NOVO WAS OFFSIDE
surprise surprise
theiving/cheating/diving hun bar stewards
GL2
thought so..heartbreaking
sorry you couldn`t make it yesterday
met a couple or you likely Greenock lads yesterday
thanks J
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tinytim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:22
COMMENT-BODY:James are you still lurking?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:23
COMMENT-BODY:3-2
Cuellar og
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dick Byrne
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:23
COMMENT-BODY:Cuellar og 3-2 Utd
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:23
COMMENT-BODY:3-2 United!
Own goal by Cuellar after a great cross.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:24
COMMENT-BODY:pf
Depute!Slur of the Year.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:26
COMMENT-BODY:3-3.
Total calamity at the back, remember how Mark Kerr passed it back in the cup final only for Kris Boyd to be lurking? Aye, same thing again!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:28
COMMENT-BODY:3-3
guff
nelsbhoy
i ain`t no deputy
am no even a fecking PF
stop winding me up :¬)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gweedorebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:30
COMMENT-BODY:gerryadamsbeard
I can't help feeling that if he goes now, it will be partly because he's never had the support of a sizeable minority of the fans - and amongst those, a minority of bigots.
I disagree
It's because he is an arrogant poor manager who can't pick a player or inspire a team. He signed his own resignation letter yesterday with that team line up.
It's time for strachan to go not because of bigoty but because he has lost the support.
let him walk with dignity we owe him that but walk he must.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:32
COMMENT-BODY:Nelsbhoy,
this summer we will need to spend 1m for Bobo´s loyalty pay off and another 1m for Tommy Gravesons departure or 1.5m in wages if he stays. We will also pay WGS 1m compensation for his departure. How much for Pendrey departure ??? so thats about 4m and thats just to clear up the mess.
That over 4m pound thrown away in dodgy deals that nave been signed sealed and delivered by the SSM.
I believe that Scott Brown will blossom into a player that deserves his 25k a week wage. Lets hope that its not another financial bloomer but its fair to say that one day Scott Brown will look deserving of that wage. Lest hope its still in the hoops
If a new manager is appointed then its fair to say that their will be a turn around of personnel. Derek Riordhan will need to be sold this summer and the portents look like he will hang around until December looking for the best deal that suits himself as he owes Celtic nothing.
Will a new manager have belief in players that other outfits have discared but WGS seen something their. E.g Evander Sno. Chris Killen, Stephen Pressley etc. Will other players feel the need to move on that WGS will no longer be there.
Anyway you look at it its a mess. Turning a profit is all that matters. CL participation. The board were patting themselves on the back having met their targets after Benfica done the business for us in Donetsk. That´s two years in a row where the inclination to perform after CL failure has not been witnessed. Thank god that wasn´t apparent in WGS first CL campaign.
So is WGS going to sacrificed at the altar for being complicit in accepting very meekly the poor business decisions that have been imposed upon him since the start of his reign ?
I reckon he will and that Boruc´s departure will herald in and finance the new Celtic managers departure.
If only DD cared as much for Celtic as David Murray does for Rangers, I dont mean this in a financial sense but in a day to day hands on ... what in the name of the wee man is going on kind of way. Who knows something as simple as that might focus the minds of the players and the coaching staff. I just cant imagine David Murray leaving Martin Bain to exclusively run Rangers and letting him take all the credit.
Credit needs to be given when credits due. PL got plenty of credit these last two years due to his financial wizardy unfortunately Celtic is a fooball club and the focus on money allowed Rangers back in. For me that´s unnacceptable whoever was complicit in this singular decision not to spend teh money these last two summers needs to do the decent thing.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:32
COMMENT-BODY:Kris Boyd puts finger over muth points to three stands full of United fans and tells them to shut up after scoring.
Watch out for furious articles in the laptop loyal tomorrow about taunting opposition fans.
I have regained my sense of humour.
b2k - I'm sure Ewing Graham is ex-Daily Record/Mail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: loumacarisbettingslip
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:33
COMMENT-BODY:seem the own goal was scored by the player of the year
says the comentator
seems know its all over
without even a vote
mugabe csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:34
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic, Celtic thats the team for me,
Celtic, Celtic on to victory,
They're the finest team in Scotland, I'm sure you will agree,
We'll never give up till we've won the cup and the scottish football league.
They come from bonnie Scotland, they come from county Cork,
They come from dear old Donegal and even from New York,
From every street in Glasgow they proudly make their way,
To a place called dear old paradise and this is what they say.
Again
There's Fallon, Young and Gemmel who proudly wear the green,
There's Clark, McNeill and Kennedy the best there;s ever been,
Jim Johnstone, Murdoch, Chalmers, John Divers and John Hughes,
And sixty thousand Celtic fans who proudly shout the news.
And Again
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:35
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr I was trying to get up but the cubs were needing chauffered about.
I hope it was not TTTT you met but the acceptable face of Greenock Cadizzi and Jinkyredstar......
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:40
COMMENT-BODY:awe-no
yes-yes.I dont care now as long as we pump them to put down a marker.
We are a better team,and we are better people.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:42
COMMENT-BODY:GL2
The latter pair
TTTT must be bad if those two are the acceptable face :¬)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:43
COMMENT-BODY:I don't know how many times Kris Boyd has dived today, but it seems fairly certain he won't be getting booked for it.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bigjie
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:45
COMMENT-BODY:Personally i save the booing and abuse for the opposition.
Left after 76 mins yesterday because , like previous games , i couldn't see us scoring and our manager is hamstrung by either his inability or unwillingness to change systems for the opposition.
That said until he walks or is shown the door i will support him......but the clock is ticking.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:46
COMMENT-BODY:CRAX
that last DIVE was embarrasssing ...worthy of a booking...which would have been duly dispatched had been in green and white
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Fabrizio
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:46
COMMENT-BODY:Aw Naw:
You stated at 15.32 that
"If only DD cared as much for Celtic as David Murray does for Rangers".
I think on reflection, you may wish to delete the above statement.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GerryAdams'Beard
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:47
COMMENT-BODY:Gweedorebhoy - I chose my words carefully - I wasn't saying if Gordon goes it'll be because of bigotry. What I was saying was that it will be partly because he NEVER had the support of a sizeable minority of fans. I said and I believe that the bigots are a minority of a minority. It just sticks in my craw that they'll get what they've wanted all along.
But that's not a good enough reason for him to stay either. I don't agree he's a poor manager - his overall record speaks for itself and he has achieved that with limited resources. I agree he can be a bit arrogant or maybe more stubborn than anything else and yes, he has made a few mistakes. I agree entirely with Paul about his team selection yesterday though and I can't help but feel there's a bit of stubbornness there, which we could well do without.
I won't argue if we get a better manager to replace him, but it won't be easy to attract a top-level manager to the SPHell.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Harry's hoody
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:47
COMMENT-BODY:that last Boyd dive was embarrassing... well, for most nornal people it would be.
But I'm sure, even after the replay clearly shows he's a cheat, he'll they'll all laugh it off.
Scott Booth certainly wanted to make light of it, rather than highlight the dishonest side of it.
Win at all costs, eh...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:49
COMMENT-BODY:If Dundee United were capable of cutting out basic errors this game would be 3-0, and we would be worrying about second place.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:51
COMMENT-BODY:Fabrizio,
What make you think that ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bazzabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:54
COMMENT-BODY:That dive was hunbelivebale, one of the worst and most blatant you will ever see...lets see if they mention it.
Duffield..... whats that about cheats?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bazzabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:58
COMMENT-BODY:Why was boyd not booked?!?!? I am ragin.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Стахановец
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:58
COMMENT-BODY:3-3 Full time.
Dundee United missed a bagload of chances and made silly mistakes at the back, not to mention Novo being offside at his goal.
It should also be noted that United again played good football and created chances regularly.
If an SPL manager were in the running for the Celtic job, Craig Levein would very likely be at the top of the list.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Fabrizio
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 15:59
COMMENT-BODY:Aw Naw,
I’m curious as to why you think murray cares for rangers.
Is it because he’s actively trying to sell his majority shareholding? Or perhaps because he named the training ground after himself? Or is it the political ‘celebrations’ he currently stages. Maybe DD should appoint a John Mc Clelland type figure to divert some of the flak when things are not going so well? Maybe DD should stage an Easter commemoration of the 1916 Rising? Or maybe you’d prefer is DD carried out some smoke-and-mirrors Balance Sheet adjustments to disguise the fact that he has virtually bankrupted his club?
Fabrizio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:00
COMMENT-BODY:It has to be said that Dundee Utd. provide more dangerous ball into the box than what we can. They can also score against Rangers ... 5 in the last two games.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:01
COMMENT-BODY:And the party continues,
Yo ho ho, off we go
What do you know, it's nine in a row
Bye bye Rangers
Celtic's on the ball again, on the way to make it ten
Bye bye Rangers
You can talk about your great defenders
Sing and shout about your No Surrender
But let us give you this wee tip
We'll be there for the league and the cup
Rangers bye bye
Yo ho ho, off we go
What do you know, it's nine in a row
Bye bye Rangers
Celtic's on the ball again, on the way to make it ten
Bye bye Rangers
You can talk about your great defenders
Sing and shout about your No Surrender
But let us give you this wee tip
We'll be there for the league and the cup
Rangers bye bye
But let us give you this wee tip
We'll be there for the league and the cup
Rangers bye bye
decentpeoplecsc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:04
COMMENT-BODY:A win for us yesterday and they would be on the verge of their very own Black Sunday!! What cock up you made yesterday Gordon.
No matter what i still reckon the league is over my mind won't change as i can not see Celtic winning all their remaining games. View i shared before the game yesterda was they would drop something today and i was proved right, but i was also proved right with Celtic winning all their remaining games.
How we have allowed our advantage to disappear and let this team win a treble is beyond me.
From know on Gordon be humble get rid of your stubborn strek and play this team. Show you at least acknowledge there are many problems.
Boruc (Capt)
Hinkel
Wilson
Balde
O'Dea
Hartley
Robson
McGeady
Samaras
Hutchinson
Nakamura
Subs:
McDonald
JVOH
Caldwell
Naylor
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GerryAdams'Beard
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:04
COMMENT-BODY:Keep 'em coming, Nelsbhoy!
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:05
COMMENT-BODY:anyone think Wishart archdarnelist
will defend Boydy tommorrow
the huns were very fortunate this week
they could defend neither cross ball nor corner
but got their usual assistance from the mib
this time from the linesmen
1st goal was not a free kick
2nd goal Novo was offside
the game is easy when you get such a helping hand
Boyd should have been booked
and
BTW DU were worthy of more than their 3 goals
if we could get our finger out we could rumble this mob
sadly despite their deficiencies today the huns are further ahead than they were yesterday ....
the door has been left ajar
fight for your lives ...our sanity
HAIL HAIL
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Give McGeady the Number 7 Jersey
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:06
COMMENT-BODY:They're 7 points ahead.
One game in hand.
More away games remain than home games, and going by today's performance they're not too hot away from home.
-
We've got them twice at home.
We can win these two games.
If we do, the difference is down to 1, and they'll still have their game in hand.
Surely we can't throw in the towel yet, even with the poor fare on show at the moment.
We have enough to scrape the victories required.
It can be done.
-
Keeping the Faith.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: U2_1888
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:08
COMMENT-BODY:WGS,
Are you daft? The real WGS will be even more stubborn than before.
You will play before Balde.
I will play before O'Dea.
Only the plague will prevent Caldwell amd McManus starting.
That's why he should go TONIGHT.
Start the renewal process now.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:09
COMMENT-BODY:bazzabhoy
do you really need an answer as to why Boyd was not booked
it`s the same reason as they got the free at the 1st goal and the offside 2nd goal was allowed to stand
makes you sick
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:09
COMMENT-BODY:pf
Would you represent Boydy?Bet you would,decent fee mind you!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:11
COMMENT-BODY:TLWIO
Thanks for your earlier reply
just a bad goal to lose ...with many culpable ..symptomatic of our current malaise
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gerry
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:12
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67...
you said, 'Glasgow bhoy, I have no information on what will happen, but for a whole lot of reasons I believe we will have a new manager next season.'
When do you expect the deed will be done, do you not think we should get it over and done with as fast as possible for all concerned?
It would let the new man come in and have a look at our players while we'll still be playing competitive games.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pablophanque
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:12
COMMENT-BODY:Just a wee note to say it was great to meet pfAyr, Jinkyredstar, Caddizy, Ulyses McGee, and especially Dick Byrne as well as the "Usuall Suspects" at BB yesterday and my apologies if I've missed anyone out that I had not met before. Thanks guys. And a big thanks to OldTim and Lycru for a good weekend (football excepted).
pablophanque
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:12
COMMENT-BODY:nelsbhoy
of course i would
charge him a fortune mind
ethics are for the other PF`s
of which i`m def NOT one :¬)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: derbyshirebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:14
COMMENT-BODY:Who was the ref today lads?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: x
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:16
COMMENT-BODY:Just heard Levein's post match interview. Expected him to be raging about Boyd's dive and Novo's offside goal.
Nope. Big smile, very happy. Thought it was a great game. No complaints. Compliments huns for resilience.
I'm afraid he's not for me. Where is the passion. Would he vigoriusly defend our interests or would he follow the 'things even themselves out over the season' line.
Nah, definitely not for me. Also, he was hunted out of leicester after a short time a complete failure.
The same goes for Mark McGhee. Loveed him as a player but after a promising start turned out to be a disaster in England.
We need to set our sights higher and if it takes big bucks to get an experienced EPL manager like Hughes or Moyes then so be it.
Nocuttingcorners CSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bazzabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:19
COMMENT-BODY:pyfar - Aye, your right mate. But this was SOOOO blatant as to be unreal, if that was Naka - oh dear.
Cheats
by the way, is scott booth the new jock brown?
Uber fud.
Mon Barnsley, Barca, Juve, Benfica and Lyon.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:22
COMMENT-BODY:Fabrizio,
Isn´t PL performing the John Mc Lelland role for us but unlike JmC on a permanent basis?
His club is not bankrupted. I just watch them on TV extend tehir lead over Celtic. They still seem in busines to me. How many games are they away from a qaudruple and with a 9m home product money in the bank, CL revenue, UEFA cup revenue, SPL prize winner money , Scottish cup winner money, treble or quadruple merchandising campaign about to raise its ugly head and a steady ongoing rebuilding job this summer.
Even on the financial brink David Murray still threw millions at Rangers. Our board have peddled the line that somehow if we keep an even finanical keel over a number of years we will eventually peg back Rangers. This is utter folly as David Murary has just proven.
Why is it that David Murray who is seemingly 500 million in the red still able to throw 10m last summer at Rangers and us a plc in profit cant even match that ?
Cause they felt they didn´t need too or because they didn´t want too ?
How much in the red is DD ?
I hate Murray and detest the man. He is far more interested in Rangers than DD is in Celtic. Actions speak louder than words.
Money was thrown at us before but now that the EPL is not going to happen. Its a case of cutting our cloth accordingly and living within our means. In other words Celtic is a long term project. Make it self sufficent and one day it will be franchised and then the big players can make a killing.
This is a great idea and I am all for it but when we have the chance and the money to consign our fierce rivals to looking on enviously. We ....no I should say they ... let them back in ? as there isn´t the will. Why isn´t there the will?
Why ? for the sake of stating that the balance sheets look good ?
I´ll stick by my original assertion until I see differently.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:26
COMMENT-BODY:Think about our club,its Unique name,its origins.We are down at the moment but we are NEVER out.
Our Culture and People rely on a Winning Celtic Team to put the Establishment in its place.
Here we go:
A young lad named John Thomson,
From the west of Fife he came,
To play for Glasgow Celtic,
And to build himself a name.
On the fifth day of September,
'gainst the Rangers club he played,
From defeat he saved the Celtic,
Ah but what a price he paid.
The ball rolled from the centre,
Young John ran out and dived,
The ball rolled by; young John lay still,
For his club this hero died.
I took a trip to Parkhead,
To the dear old Paradise,
And as the players came out,
Sure the tears fell from my eyes.
For a famous face was missing,
From the green and white brigade,
And they told me Johnny Thomson,
His last game he had played.
Farewell my darling Johnny,
Prince of players we must part,
No more we'll stand and cheer you,
On the slopes of Celtic Park.
Now the fans they all are silent,
As they travel near and far,
No more they'll cheer John Thomson,
Our bright and shining star.
So come all you Glasgow Celtic,
Stand up and play the game,
For between your posts there stands a ghost,
Johnny Thomson is his name.
We shall not be moved.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:31
COMMENT-BODY:Tony Bananas,
agreed! I wouldn´t want Murray either. I was only asserting that he is far more interested in Rangers welfare than DD is in Celtic.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BHOYSFOUR
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:34
COMMENT-BODY:At 06/04/08 15:20, GerryAdams'Beard said…
Well said!
Hail Hail
BF
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bazzabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:35
COMMENT-BODY:Well well well, not a mention about boyds attempt to CHEAT the ref into giving the scumbags a free kick.
The only thing that Im suprised about is that Im suprised.
Over to you duffield.
We can still win this league you know.
Hail Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:37
COMMENT-BODY:The old bookies are still not making us really long odds. Highest odds I can find are 5/1. I would expect the book to be shut on the huns and us to be around the 12/1 mark or more.
Should I? With my record at the moment that would definitely be the kiss of death for us.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:37
COMMENT-BODY:awe-naw
Looking at the protests being made re the Olympic Torch.
Perhaps we could carry out similar protests at the next Dunhill Links.
Stealing Dermot's 9 iron.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: cardiffbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:38
COMMENT-BODY:Awenaw ...
Bang on with those comments re Murray and Desmond. Murray knows he needs to get his house in order if he decides to sell. DD cares not a jot about Celtic or the fans, he showed that with the appointment of John Reid, which will benefit Desmond's other business interests much more than it will benefit Celtic.
Put it another way if Murray and Desmond both have houses to sell, Murray would put everything on the credit card to make sure the house looks its very best and be able to squeeze every last penny out if it. DD expects that Celtic fans should blindly buy the house, otherwise well be told we are greenhuns
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:40
COMMENT-BODY:re the mint interview
he really was treating the interviewer like a fool
surely if his grandiose statements don`t come to fruition this time then he must be questioned
he was openly claimimg that contrary to those who scoffed at his plans ,that they were very much alive
we wait with bated breath ...i right
another moonbeam
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tinytim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:40
COMMENT-BODY:Awe naw.
I have been a big fan of DD.
However, i think that you have posed some very pertinent points.
Peter Lawell is being asked to do the same job as John McClelland.
The pressure has not mounted on PL because the team has been winning.
This will change if we are to play second fiddle to Rangers.
DD has not responded well to flack in the past.
DD will walk away, if a sizeable amount of flack comes his way.
I would like to see him throw some money at the club again.
It may be required to get us out of our current mess on the playing field.
That being said,i have no right to ask him to do this.
His key role is to get the appointment of the next manager correct.
He made a mess of the Barnes/Dalglish era.Made amends with MON,and in my opinion made another hash of it with Mr Strachan.
It is vital that he gets it right now.
I would like to see him prove that he cares more for Celtic than DM does for The Darnel.
P.S James where are you?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mcgrory-for-arsenal
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:42
COMMENT-BODY:There is no point aiming our ire at refs or sir minty.
After MON left we were given the cheap option.
That decision was made by Dermot, a racing man, a succesful businessman with no more than a passing interest in Celtic.
Now Dermot is not a football man, he doesnt even watch that many matches.
And we have to trust him to pick our next manager!!!
Dermot could no more spot a good football manager than strachan could spot a good defender
Lets hope , no lets pray, that Dermot goes back to Sir Alex (Sir Alex was the man that gave us MON) for advise....
Because Sir Alex will only offer one candidate to Dermot...
ROY IS THE BHOY
but that joke of a manager we currently have will have to be well away from the building before Roy visits!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: cardiffbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:46
COMMENT-BODY:greenlion2 - paddy power were giving 7/1 before the game today, i backed us yesterday at 4/1, didnt even get a 90 minute run for my money !
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:47
COMMENT-BODY:Well, I venture away for a week and, hey presto, nothing much changes. Except that those of a happy persuasion have now seen the light.
I argued that whatever your stance on WGS, we had to support the team. We've done that. But the team has failed and failed miserably at that.
Now the interesting bit - the players are there. I believe that Donati and Brown, both spectacular failures thus far, do have the skills and football nous to become Celtic greats. They are not the only failures this season. However, it is clear that the management/coaching staff have been unable to translate this potential into reality on the pitch. That is what you get your monies for as a manager. Personally, I would prefer WGS to do the honourable and resign now. I'd rather that than see us limp into our home games against them listening to his cringing excuses at a pre- and post- match conference. For let's not forget this - we are watching our championship slip away to a team that includes inter alia, David Weir, Christian Dailly, Lee McCulloch and Nacho Novo among others. They have managed by Smith and McCoist !! That is the biggest indictment a Celtic manager can face. Au Revoir.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:48
COMMENT-BODY:Didn't watch their game today, had better things to do. Seems like even with a free kick from a dive and an offside goal they still lost points.
Somehow this makes me even more depressed than I was yesterday - they slipped up but we still fell further behind this weekend because of our own poor play. Kind of sums up the season really.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:49
COMMENT-BODY:nelsbhoy,
I am not looking for protest just reasonable explanations how a plc that has turned a good profit in the last two years did not feel the need to "maintain and enhance the quality of the sqaud" while their fiercest rivals spent 10m doing exactly that.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Fabrizio
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:53
COMMENT-BODY:Aw Naw,
Whilst I accept that PL is in charge of the day-to-day running of the club, my feelings on the Mc Clelland appointment was that whilst murray is happy to take any credit that’s going, he ducked out when the going got tough. Having engineered a reduction in debt, he moved himself back to the limelight and returned the club to its traditional mindset which is epitomised by wattenacchio. As you say, murray is a repugnant character and the basis of my argument is that whatever DD’s perceived shortcomings are with regard to his investment in our club, he does not deserve to be compared to murray.
I’m not deliberately trying to throw the CQN party line at you but I do believe that murray gambled hugely last summer and, yes, the gamble has paid off. My opinion on why he did this was to attract a buyer for the club, and a club playing in the Champions League is obviously much more attractive to a potential purchaser. What’s most annoying about the current position is that we were so far ahead of them last summer and this position has now reversed. However, I don’t believe that you can lay the blame at DD’s door. As far as I know, PL and GS are the people who run the club. Correct me if I’m wrong but DD has no say in the signing of any player. Re DD’s levels of debt, my understanding is that IIU isn’t exposed to any significant level.
Fabrizio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: greenlion2
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:53
COMMENT-BODY:Cardiffbhoy I cant find it on the PP site they must have closed the book.
Right im off to ponder over whether I blindly follow my gut or for once use my head.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mcgrory-for-arsenal
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:53
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67 stated that strachan was a better manager than Riikjard!!
An absolutely incredible assertion !
Strachan is not even in the top 4 managers in the SPL!!
Rankers are SO bad that should strachan be sacked before the end of the week there is actually a chance we could catch them!!
Get him out now and we have a chance!
Re-instate Bobo and Riordan and GO FOR IT!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TommyTwistsTommyTurns
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:53
COMMENT-BODY:mcgrory - didn't DD & PL get the final thumbs up on Gordon from MON?
As someone posted earlier, the atmosphere in the ground on the 16th could be quite ugly, especially if we don't beat the Mothers next weekend. What odds on that at the moment?
I never ever want to witness a repeat of Black Sunday, but I also couldn't sit through another "Dallas" game with our fans pouring out their bile in front of that lot.
I wanted to leave at half-time that day, but stayed to the end only to witness their mock huddle.
Nothing worse than a gloating hun.
TTTT
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:56
COMMENT-BODY:awe-naw
Just trying to add touch of humour.Make no mistake we will prevail.
We`are the team of the ordinary man.
jazz/heart/dab/cfc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 16:59
COMMENT-BODY:Let the party continue,
Oh Hampden in the Sun,
Celtic 7 Rangers 1,
That was the score when it came time up,
The Timalloys had won the cup.
I see Tully running down the line,
He slips the ball past Valentine,
It's nodded down by 'Teazy Weazy',
And Sammy Wilson makes it look so easy.
Chorus
I see Mochan beating Shearer,
The League Cup is coming nearer.
He slams in an impossible shot,
The Rangers team has had their lot.
Chorus
Over comes a very high ball,
Up goes McPhail above them all,
The ball and Billy's head have met,
A lovely sight the ball is in the net.
Chorus
Young Sam Wilson has them rocked,
but unluckily his shot was blocked,
Then big Bill with a lovely lob,
Makes it look such an easy job.
Chorus
Now here is Mochan on the ball,
He runs around poor Ian McColl,
Wee George Niven takes a daring dive,
But Smiler Mochan makes it number five.
Chorus
Down the middle runs Billy McPhail,
With John Valentine on his tail,
With a shot along the ground,
The cup's at Parkhead safe and sound.
Chorus
Here comes Fernie, cool and slick,
He ambles up to take the kick,
He hits it hard and low past Niven,
The Tims are in their Seventh Heaven.
decentpeoplewillprevailcsc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:02
COMMENT-BODY:If PL was savv enough (purely from a media perspective), he would sack WGS now on the premise that to be anything other than streets ahead of the mediocre opposition in the SPL cannot be categorised as anything other than immense failure. Let Lennon take the team for the remaining games.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: cardiffbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:02
COMMENT-BODY:Fabrizio
You are mistaken if you think that DD does not have a say in the signing of any player, perhaps not directly but as our largest shareholder he has a lot of say.
He took a lot of credit for bringing Martin O'Neill to Celtic , therefore he should be able to take criticism for his role in the current state of the club.
Celtic is a plaything to him, we had the chance in the summer to bury them, and boy we gloated when we got Scott Brown and Scott McDonald because they wanted them, and we laughed when they bought Davie Weir and Kirk Broadfoot. Who;s laughing now. Players like Cuellar, Cousin and Kevin Thomson were all within our budget and undoubtedly would have improved our squad. Kenny Miller was sold to balance the books, not for football reasons, and yes I know £3m profit was a steal, but it weakened our squad and we dont need the money, maybe Kenny could have stuck one of the many chances we create away.
Murray is an odious obnoxious individual who has the majority of Scotland's press in his pocket, but he cares about his investment, because that's all it is to him.
I can't understand why DD doesn't care as much about his.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: malceye
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:03
COMMENT-BODY:should read "savvy"
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: GerryAdams'Beard
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:07
COMMENT-BODY:bhoysfour - thanks for that.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:12
COMMENT-BODY:cardiff
Like the cut of your Jib.hope your(Hometown) team prevail today.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:13
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67,
Bet you that was a bit a tough article to pen? I think Gordon reluctance to accept the problems has cost him big time.
To hear about PH and GS getting dropped and BR not even starting was a complete boot in the go nads going into the game yesterday. We all know he will peservere with the two fly by nights in the centre of that defence, but he lost the plot big time yesterday with subs and decisions.
He decided to go 3 at the back to late, and when he did decide to do it, he takes off the only one defender that can pass and supply a ball into the box. It should have been one of the other 3.
Anyway it's done now and my prediction the other day about Rangers dropping points today has materialised, but unfortunately my belief in our team to win evry game also came through.
If a new man comes in i hope DD thinks carefully. I hope he doesn't go for the likes of O'Leary and Allardyce. I got a hunch he might go for either as he wants us to have some sort of presence from down there with the media and these two are well knon for punditry. A bit like MON and WGS.
Who would you go for? I have stated that i would love us to show ambition and go for someone like Van Gaal, Mourinho or Hiddink. In reality though there is a good cahnce it won't happen.
So i have went for Steve Clarke at Chelsea. Good Celtic man as well:)if that's a must for Kojo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: oldtim67
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:16
COMMENT-BODY:To Paul et al.
Theres times when you don't know what to write about after a game,Yesterday was as bad as it gets.
What can you write about a team that lacks guile,fight,pride in the shirt they wear,and at the end of it all, they had a MOTM awarded to a player,I think Hoopy the Mascot deserved the award more,at least HE mad the Kids happy.
For Celtic,to have been beaten by a team that played the last forty minutes with Ten men was disgraceful.
I honestly believe we could have played another hour and got zilch for our efforts,efforts,who am I kidding, there were no efforts,I hate to say this but I can't remember a team with so little fight in it,it hurts to go to a game and come away feeling robbed,not by Motherwell,but by our own team,a more lacklustre team than this one,I can't recall.
I left home on Friday,to have a pleasant week-end with Pablophange and Curly,and meeting up with CQNers at BBs,all went to plan.
I got to the Hotel and booked in,There were about twenty Celtic supprters,all with smiling faces,no doubt looking forward to the game the next day,I didn't see them on Saturday night,but this morning I went down to breakfast,and there were no smiling faces to be seen.
That was how hard Celtic hurt their supporters Yesterday,we are all devastated by their inept attempt to play a game of Football.
Great day at BBs,and as I said earlier,all smiling faces,I wonder how many went home smiling,Does the team realise how many people they hurt when they lose,it's becoming a bad habit,and bad habits usually take a bit of fixing.
The buck always stop with the Manager,but I think I'll miss jumping on the bandwagon at this time,I'm sitting on the fence and after Yesteday I went further up the fence,shortly I'll be up the top and falling on the other side,As I say the buck stops with you Gordon,fix it, or fall on your sword,still a happy clapper,but no more mishaps.
Dave.Babbity Bowsters clique, member Nr 67.
PS.
great to meet up with CQNers at BBs,again, nice to put faces, to names, the list is getting longer.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:17
COMMENT-BODY:Setanta have just shown the goals again on their news round-up channel. Six goals and guess which was the ONLY ONE which they didn't show a replay of? Novo's offside goal of course!
Did the fact that the Gers scored an offside goal get any mention in the report? No don't be silly!
Goebels has nothing on our ever vigilant Scottish media.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Fabrizio
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:20
COMMENT-BODY:Cardiffbhoy 17.02,
Good post, I agree with most of what you’re saying. I’d imagine that DD would be consulted on the expensive signings but had we signed the likes of the hun Bosmans you mention, we’d have been laughed at and DD & PL would have been ridiculed for their lack of ambition. Can DD be held responsible for the fact that Celtic’s expensive signings have not been delivered whilst wattie’s bargain basement signings have been fused into an effective, yet ugly, unit? Whilst Celtic outspent the huns in the past 12 months, has this translated itself onto the park? Whose fault is this? Not DD’s, in my opinion.
Fabrizio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:21
COMMENT-BODY:Fabrizio,
thanks for the prompt reply.
As people DD is a giant of a man compared to David Murray thats not a complement just an observation. To provide Murray again with the Rangers fuelled oxygen was a mistake an oversight a bad business decision. Call it what you want ?
He was warned and we were told that they knew better. They didn´t and its now going to be much harder to readdress the situation. We slipped and our all pervading conceit is what´s responsible. Money did not need to be made avialable and if it was then not too much. Nothing that DD would have to delve into his own pocket for.
They took their eye of the ball. Lennoxtown, Brian Quinns retirement. John Reids appointment etc. either that or the cynic in me tells me that it was an excercise in excpectation reduction. That´s the only conclusion I can come too if nobody is prepared to hold up their hands and accept responsibilty for mistakes. We all learn from mistakes. If we we do the we dont need to call for anybody´s head. If they push the line that no mistakes were made then it would seem that our conceit is unfortunately still with us.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:30
COMMENT-BODY:Murray moonbeam has been v generous to Rankers over the years, DD has been less generous to us that's up to him, who else has pumped in £ millions? Who else would want to as long as we are in the SPL? The same old crap is rearing it's ugly head again "pour money into the club, spend, spend spend", what part od 'we have no money' do you guys not understand, we are still running an overdraft!
Unless a sugar daddy like moonbeam is out there and as long as we are in the SPL this is probable as good as it gets.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Fabrizio
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:34
COMMENT-BODY:Aw Naw,
It would be the height of bad manners not to reply to a fellow Tim!
I am not trying to be DD’s biggest fan, I believe there are good and bad angles to the fact that he is the dominant shareholder. My only reason for my original comment was that as you said “As people DD is a giant of a man compared to David Murray”. I do believe that mistakes have been made and I am surprised to say the least at the invisibility (hope there’s such a word) of John Reid since he became Chairman.
Fabrizio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:36
COMMENT-BODY:Maybe a lawyer specialising in International trade can assist? I run a business in Glasgow, if I want to trade in London, Paris, Berlin or Amsterdam then no one can stop me, why cannot we legally fight our case for inclusion in the Premiership? Surely if the Premiership says no entry - they would be in breach of the competition rules?
regarding WGS, sadly wee man the taxi has been phoned and DD should be looking for a replacemnt such as keane or McGhee. I've said it before - the rot set in against Caley when we were 0 - 2 up and lost 3 - 2, this sad trend continued with the Dundee Utd, aberdeen and St Mirren games at Parkhead.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:40
COMMENT-BODY:benjy - I'm a bit confused about this myth that moonbeams "pumped money" into Rangers or was a "sugar daddy". If minty was pumping his own money into Rangers then how could they end up £50m+ in debt? If that was the case Rangers would owe the money to Sir moonbeams and being the benevolent benefactor he is with nothing but the club's interests at heart surely he would then simply write this off.
The fact is the only money Moonbeams has been "pumping" into Rangers has been the Bank of Scotland's and assorted other mugs like Joe Lewis as well as transferring debt from Rangers to his other companies (a paper excerise only not "pumping" money anywhere).
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: cardiffbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:43
COMMENT-BODY:Fabrizio
Fair comment on the bosmans, Note I also mentioned Kevin Thomson and Carlos Cuellar, who in my opinion would be stick ons to be in our current team. We spent that money elsewhere.
DD did not provide sufficient funds to attract a quality manager, instead we got Gordon Strachan, who done a reasonable job some would say, personally I think his achievements have been overplayed.
Now is not the time to discuss it but DD's appointment of John Reid this season, which will directly benefit his other business interests shows how much he cares for our club.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:44
COMMENT-BODY:Celticlover, good point. I too hope things are handled in a dignified manner.
Gerry, nothing will be done until the league is definitely over.
Tony Bananas, deleted, language.
Tinytim, we have to forget about sugar daddy finances and live within our means.
McGrory for… it’s all about resources. Frank got an enormous increase on the previous incumbent, Gordon didn’t. Frank was able to buy some of the best players in the world, Gordon wasn’t. Both are long odds to stay in their jobs.
WGS, aye.
Oldtim67, indeed.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:46
COMMENT-BODY:Fabrizio,
Two points
1) Who did Rangers sign for free that would have us ridiculed
Roy Carrol
Jean Claude Darcheville
Kirk Broadfoot
Graeme Smith
Alan Gow
Walters Bargain basement signings
Cuellar 2.4m
Mc Culloch 2.25m
Beasley 700k
Whittaker 2m
Cousin 1.1m
Naismith 1.5m
I agree that it is not DD´s problem with regards signings but he has to sort it out now and make sure that similar situations in the future are not countenanced. The singular influential factor is what you have on the park not off it. Seville is still fresh in my memory. We spent money then we pushed the boat out hoping for EPL invites.
Its time to get some African , French, South American players in etc..
This obsession with picking up the best SPL player on the cheap combined with the failure to bring through youth (adam,burke,hutton,smith,mcgregor) we dont quite have it sussed imho. Our super duper all improved scouting network is a joke.
I want PL to come out and state why our youth policy is failing.
Why our scouting network is failing.
Why we chose not to challenge Rangers in the transfer market last summer.
The absolute necessity to rebuild team 4 when all we should have been doing is enhancing and mainating team 1 for the start of next season ,while he can pull a straight face saying that we have been enhancing and maintaining the quality of our squad?
I´d also like to know who is responsible for our blue chip signings. After hearing WGS comments last summer about PL vetoing the Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink proposal and how our acquisitions such as Jarosik, Nakamura , Boruc and Zurawski seem tied in with a pre season Celtic tour... I have my doubts that it is solely WGS responsibilty.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:47
COMMENT-BODY:And Finally
When you walk through a storm,
Hold your head up high,
And don't be afraid of the dark,
At the end of a storm, there's a golden sky,
And the sweet silver song of a lark.
Walk on through the wind,
Walk on through the rain,
Though your dreams be tossed and blown...
Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart,
And you'll never walk alone,
You'll never walk alone...
Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart,
And you'll never walk alone,
You'll never walk alone
We will come thru this lessons will be learned.Heads/chins up thr good will come thru.
notyettotallypissedcsc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:48
COMMENT-BODY:Sir Paul
Just caught the uplifting result from Tannadice.
Events are proceeding, just like I said... weeks ago...remember?...
When I intoned......
"This Celtic Team, will rely on OTHERS... to pull their chestnuts out of the flames...IT IS NOT IN OUR OWN HANDS!"
Now pal...you know me and you have a good idea of what makes me tick.
You and I go back to the the one roomed cave ,where the First Edition of this, the Finest Celtic Forum in all of Celtica, was laboriously chipped from a Tablet of Clay, by your good self.
The other guys...well some...but, mostly all... have not the slightest notion of what makes me tick, or far less, rings my bell!
I very seldom make an announcement,unless I have made up my mind WELL, in advance.
I could see the Rot creep into our the performance of our players ... well, check that... I could see the rot GALLOP, in, after that conspicuously LAID-BACK DEFEAT, perpetrated against them, on that dismal day in Inverness.
I sound like a broken record... and frankly, my dear...I don't give a damn...
But the Personages who must Completely shoulder the blame for the current PROCESSION, of Utterly Ineffectual and LIMPID displays of Ineptitude, that we the Celtic Faithful, have be been subjected... is... THE PLAYERS!
Why?
I do not know... Mr.Strachan doesn't know...The Whole Celtic Board doesn't know... the only ONE that does know... is GOD.
And HE ain't tellin'!
True to form...it is just about now..that I will fire the familiar...
However!
Although, I do not KNOW, the reason for the sudden change of fortune that has turned this Celtic Team of Middling to Good Players..into a conglomeration of Misfitted Misfits...
I WILL hazard a guess of one POSSIBLE REASON ,for our present CALAMITOUS CONDITION!
It is the REACTION, To our recent sojourn into the wild and heady heights of Playing in the C.L.
Where, although we gave our usual gallant and fierce attempt to compete with our outstanding opponents..we were...
WAY,WAY out of OUR CLASS!
The RE-ACTION of a string of dismal and dreary displays by us...can be attributed to our YEOMAN EFFORTS and is the RESULT of COMPLETE AND UTTER OVER-EXERTION...
You my friend... have made the SAME observation... That any team who is forced to Punch, Well above their weight...is subject to experiencing a loss of form, once they return to the Humdrum of the S.P.L.
It has happened to us before... last season... we barely limped home ...to win the League, after throwing away ...a goodly chunk... of our ...thankfully, as it turned out... insurmountable lead, in the League.
Now,to return to my initial opening line...
THE EXACT SAME SYNDROME is now about to work in our FAVOUR...
I can see from recent results of our hated competitors...that THEY ARE NOW IN DANGER OF SUCCUMBING and joining us in the same MYSTERIOUS LOSS OF FORM...
And...according to what we have agreed on,previously...
Their Loss of Form shall be laid at tha same door...as it was in our case, before them...
The Result of PUNCHING WAY TOO MUCH ABOVE THEIR WEIGHT!
It looks like there is a small chink of sunlight, that may burst forth into a blaze of hope,peeking out from the dark clouds that are hovering above us.
As I have said...
" There is still a chance..that
OTHERS. WILL PULL OUR CHESTNUTS OUT OF THE FIRE!" after all.
I believe that there is still a chance.. there are still a few more games to go...before the door Bangs in Our FACE!
Kojo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 17:50
COMMENT-BODY:Ashley House (who?) on Setanta news - "Can Rangers win the UEFA Cup?"
English bookie correspondent - "no chance!"
"Even if they manage to scrape through on Thursday night they will be by far the outsiders of the four in semis"
Get that man a job on Radio Snide immediately!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:00
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo,
are you trying to catch your towel with a spectacular dive before it hits the canvas ?
It´s all covered in sweat blood and tears now I´m afraid.
Lets see if we can beat Motherwell next up at Fir Park. They are in pole position for that UC spot and must fancy their chances.
Team for Sunday 13th April
Boruc, Hinkel, Caldwell, McManus, Naylor, Nakamura, Hartley, Donati , McGeady, Samaras, Vennegoor of Hesselink.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Martin42
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:01
COMMENT-BODY:Okdtim67 @17.16,
I thought about posting a few times since last night.
I did not, because I would I felt that I would have had to put the knife in and I just cannot do that to the team and club that I and another million supporters love.
There are many others who post here that have no compunction in plunging that knife right through the very heart of our club.
Anyone who stops going because of this season, well that is up to each individual, it is not for me to question a person's reasons; each to his own.
What I did like about your post was the fact that you spoke about me and you, Paul and Kevin, all of the clique at BBs and then the rest of the million supporters
The smile was erased from our faces.
The hurt from last Saturday has been compounded.
I am not so sure that there was a lack of fight, more a complete lack of an original idea as to beaking down a stubborn 9 man defence.
If we had been given penalty we would have missed it.
We are just so inept at beating teams just now.
I enjoyed your, and everyone elses, company at THE CLIQIE MEETING at BBs pre game on Ssturday, the only two regulars missing were Paul67 and E D B.
IN DEFIANCE OF SOME PEOPLE AND FOR THE FORSEEABLE FUTURE,
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS,
Martin.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TrueTim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:03
COMMENT-BODY:Over to you Gordon Smith
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:08
COMMENT-BODY:trueteim,
I didn't see the game today. Was that Sir Walter defying his touchline ban??
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:11
COMMENT-BODY:Tony Bananas: Has Murray put a shed load of his own money into Rankers or not? More than DD has put into Celtic? The fact HBOS has granted O'draft facilities and other misguided people have put money into Rankers is neither here nor there. DD sees celtic as a plaything and thnkfully he has "pumped in substantial funds" to Celtic has allowed us to punch above our weight since MON joined us.
Again - until we can find some way out of the SPL, we have only DD's charity to reply on.
On another subject: What ever happened to the North European breakaway league and Champions League MK 2?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: barcabhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:13
COMMENT-BODY:i have met both DD and Murray.....the first time i met DD in Porto Cervo whilst Fergus was still IC.....he struck me as a thoroughly decent guy, with a passion for and a pride in Celtic.....his record in business is spectacular...we could not be in better hands.....
I have met Murray on a few occasions, and each time i came away with increased dislike....he only wants to talk about himself...his reputed massive ego is no figment of a bloggers imagination....this guy is donald trump like in his love of himself....
to suggest he cares more about rangers than DD cares about celtic is incredibly naive
Murray only cares about Murray......he is a robert maxwell type character in personality.......we are at the start of a firestorm within our club....some people are new to the current situation, and will have to learn fast...others like PL are executives...not owners who's assets (the real phrase would get deleted) are on the line....he is able...but this isn't his call...
DD didn't get to be one of the most succesful businessmen in world history by backing losers or flogging a dead horse...nobody needs to tell him , that gordon's time is up.....equally he will be astute enough to know WE, the support, need a grand gesture.....we need a manager who will be lauded in the way martin was....in fact martin back is exactly what we need, but that may be difficult to achieve, although i am sure DD will make the call...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:14
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear,dear,dear friend, Awe Naw...
You must pay more attention, dear bhoy...
I admitted a few days ago...
That my Fluffy Projectile... had a rather strong RUBBER BAND... ATTACHED!
Which I am happy to declare...
Woiked ... just like it wiz supposed tae!
I am surprised at you, palomine... after all of these years that ye took me as a Quitter...
You know me bettah ..than dat!
Others?
Well they are jist a bunch o' Newbies...and they may think they have me taped...
Perhaps.....
Harry Houdini.... I ain't..
But, I guess I could gie him a guid run for the Money!
Kojo.
yer pal... who likes ye mair and mair.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TrueTim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:14
COMMENT-BODY:Gordon J,
it sure was. But as ever, a rule for one team... (you know the rest)
Too worried about our own problems to really get that worked up about it.
If it was a plan to have the league sewn up with out Rangers playing Celtic at Parkhead then it has worked beatufully. But ultimately - I can no longer see past our own mistakes .
Venegoor of Hesselink is strangling our team of any fluid motion. Yet he plays every week - I have said weeks ago it was time to try something bold and new. The required size of balls were not avaible to Celtic.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Fabrizio
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:17
COMMENT-BODY:Aw Naw,
Off the top of my head I can think of 3; Messrs Weir, Dailly & Ehiogu. I actually think Cousin is a handy striker and I’ll be glad when he leaves them in the summer (hopefully).
Regarding the veto of the signing of JF Hasslebaink, whilst there’s every chance it did happen, it could simply have been an attempt by WGS to stir the pot re the amount of money being made available to him. WGS is very adept in dealing with the media and knew very well that PL wouldn’t have publicly contradicted him. Personally I thought we had enough strikers/ midfielders last summer and would have preferred a few defenders who can actually defend. Re the failure of the youth set-up, I agree that the supposed ‘conveyor belt’ of young talent hasn’t borne the fruit we expected, especially given the number of titles the underage/ reserve teams have won in recent years.
Fabrizio.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: wishyghirl
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:18
COMMENT-BODY:hi all
still disappointed bout yesterday but boost today by news from Dundee. Just wanted to ask Nelsbhoy are you really from Gartcosh?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tonybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:20
COMMENT-BODY:Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 903
We do not need a new player!!
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Boruc
Hinkel-Balde-O'Dea-Wilson
Brown-Naka-Donati
McGready-McDonald-Samaras
coached by either McGhee or Levein would win the league
Not that I'm advocating McGhee or Levein (I want better than that) however all this talk of players being needed is wide of the mark. We have enough decent players to win the league and is because we have a poor Manager that we will not win it.
Although I've left out Naylor, McManus, Caldwell and Vennegoor of Hesselink because they have been very poor in my opinion, I still think they have more in their locker.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: benjy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:21
COMMENT-BODY:Another thing ......... I cannot get out of my head how lenny was treated by the laptop loyal after being sent of at greyskull - remember when he berated the ref. Lenny was called a thug, a street fighter and worse ..... they wanted him banned for months etc etc blah. Contrast Lenny's treatment V's Sir Walters treatment when he had that rammy with Mixu Pantylining- elder statesman has spot of bother, heat of the moment, Sir Wattie shows mettle.
We all know the different way the laptop treat us but it still rankles me. Rant over, dinner on table.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:24
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo,
Got to dis agree with you. Poor decisions has led to this rot. If were are being honest it's been like this for nearly two seasons.
Playing Pressley and McManus at Inverness. Caldwell and McManus together. Jettionising our best defender and brings him back for one game and gets MOM then jettionised again. Making McManus captain. Buying a player of the year contender then refusing to play him. Refusing to strenghthen the defence in the summer.
It has dawned in me more this season that any of the previous that our manager has no Plan B. As as Motherwell went down to 10 men, it should have been a 3 4 3.
Stuck up for him many a time, but enough is enough. JVOH??? he isn't performing and while i would have kept him on yesterday along with McDonald and Samaras our manager is not playing to his players strengths. Jan is not a target man.
I think young master Riordan had a prominent point today. Certain players are the ones that get dropped (ie Hartley and Donati).
Why our capatain has not been dropped will remain a mystery for me. Gordon should have went out and bought himself a captain in the summer or given it to Artur.
Instead he went with the campaign by the media by giving it to McManus. The reason there was a campaign for McManus to get it from the media is that he likes giving soundbites, interviews and they are always guranteed a quote of him from their newspaper. Plain and simple.
In a way many people are starting to wake up and see what i've been saying from day one. Decent SPL player who would get a team like Bolton, Derby, Birmingham or some championship team nothing else. His positioning play along with Naylor is the worst i seen in my time in football. And to a certain extent although Caldwell has his many faults he spends quite of time covering for those two players rather than worrying about his own area of the park
If and when a new Celtic manager comes in then there will be no hiding places for sub standard players. If MON had been there another season Stephen would not have featured and would have been gone. He was told in MON final season he had no future of the club. While Artmedia was one of GS nightmare nights it was Stephen's dream night.
I for one if i was GS try and adopt different formation in the next games. Try and show something to the fans. It's his reluctance that is killing him. Why not go 4 3 3 and utilise players strengths. Drop Jan and play Georgis through the middle up front with Aiden on the right playing off him and maybe Scott on the left. Play Naka at the point in front of two midfielders in Hartley and Robson. Hartley to the right of centre and Robson two the left of centre. Well balanced with people playing on their preferred foot. Play Wilson or Double Drum at left back, Hinkel at right back, with McManus and Caldwell in the centre as we know that O'Dea and Balde will not feature.
Celtic are easily nulfied now. Double up on McGeady on the wing or Naka and you close them up.
For a man so knowledgable in the game, Gordon has dissappointed me big time.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:25
COMMENT-BODY:How can you banish an errant manager to the stand for two games, when the stand is his preferred position for watching a match?
Where is the punishment in that?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Jonathan88
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:29
COMMENT-BODY:I'm very disappointed with yesterday's performance, I think many people will have to take a long hard look in the mirror and its very possible that some won't be back after the season ends. I think we need to freshen up for sure, in what department, I don't think its necessary to speculate until all is said and done this season.
I think we have a massive, almost impossible challenge ahead of us.
There are several players in our team who lack the heart, ability and confidence for the battle. They should be left on the fringe for the run in.
I couldn't care less about losing goals - scoring is far more important at the moment. When you consider the first aim of the game is to score more than your opponent then we should be adapting to that philosophy from now until the end of the season. Back three, perhaps. 3 up front, certainly. At the VERY least 3 attacking midfielders, played in attacking roles.
Lest we forget though, we are the reigning champions.
We have a title to retain and to fight for. Until the very end.
As supporters we have to take up the job of supporting to the very end, no matter what is happening on the pitch. This is not blind faith or foolishness - this is the very essence of supporting.
The majority have given up. The list of fans who have done this has increased massively following the past two games. It has though been ongoing for many months.
The players are not doing well enough, neither is the manager. BUT are we as supporters doing well enough? Many of us want Celtic to continue on this path of defeat so that personal points are proven right.
I completely oppose booing the team off the park or jeering players/managers.
ESPECIALLY when we haven't actually lost the league yet...
I'm not going to accuse anyone of being a green hun or anything like that, everyone reacts differently to defeat etc. However where is the pride in booing your team?
I would say I'm part of the current minority who are more in tune with the description of a supporter. Sorry if these words hurt anyone's feelings and I'm sorry if it comes across as very self praising, I'm just being honest and sticking to the facts. I stood up and joined the fellow supporters who were left at the end to drown out the cowards, those not prepared to fight to the end, too eager to give up and please the eyes and ears of those listening to/watching our game.
Can I give you an example and please accept my apology for the comparison as the two could not be further apart...
Currently it looks highly likely that Senator Obama is going to be the next President of the U.S.A. He has more delegates, more of the general public support etc.
Just like Rangers.
The race for the White House isn't mathematically finished though and those who support Senator Clinton and Senator McCain are not even close to giving up. No where near it.
There's still something to fight for.
Just like Celtic.
What would this world be if those who supported the under dog gave up before the end of every fight...ie - Celtic fans leaving before the final whistle, Celtic fans chanting for the current manager to leave, Celtic fans coming on here and requesting Mr. Lawwell to leave, Celtic fans announcing they will not be renewing their season tickets.
I don't care how much money people spend on watching Celtic, I'm afraid it isn't about that.
We are at Celtic Park to vocally support the team, out in the open, live on TV, live on radio, live on the internet, expressing our pride in our club.
Do you pay to see Celtic win?
Or do you pay to support Celtic through the brightest days of success mixed with the darkest days of failure to encourage them on to a new wave of victories which will ultimately end one day - resulting in another barren period.
It is a cycle. If you are not wise to this already you are very much in denial.
So I ask again, are you going to Celtic Park purely to see Celtic win, or are you going to support them at any cost and at any time, however good or bad the performance on the pitch may be?
I was very much under the impression that we, the fans, were part of the Celtic core and part of Celtic's 'never say die' attitude. Part of the spirit which rose high during all of those fantastic European nights including Tirol Innsbruck, cup final victories, victories over the huns, last minute victories a la Johan Mjallby headed goal from a corner against Hibs(?) several years ago (a particular favourite), Henrik Larsson scoring on so many occassions...The final whistle in Seville. We sing even in defeat. Wherever we may be. Not many do that and we seem to be forgetting the power of that, the message that sends out...we will always come back, we keep on fighting!
Who would have thought than when we were struggling in the early stages of the UEFA cup ten years ago that we would now be able to claim ourselves as one of the top 16 teams in Europe, two years running. Does no-one realise the progress we have made within the overall footballing world?
Can we not appreciate the good times and cherish them instead of selfishly and greedily expecting them at the end of EVERY game/season?
We should always fight to the end, even if the players don't. Turning on them when they are under - achieving is not going to help them win and it isn't the actions of a supporter. It is the actions of a consumer who is unhappy with the product.
Many on here go on about how we are being made to be consumers, I'm afraid many are just acting like it of their own accord.
We should never expect it to be our right to claim victory at every turn.
It just doesn't work like that.
I've always believed that the way you react to adversity shows what kind of a person you are.
Sadly the greatest fans in the world aren't so great after all.
Jonathan88 - faithful through and through.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:29
COMMENT-BODY:Wishygirl
Yes,but im taken.So there.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gerry
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:31
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67,
thanks for the reply, have we sounded out a new man??
I see rangers got another offside goal today.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:38
COMMENT-BODY:benjy - agreed it appears that DD could be more hands on and pro-active
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: David
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:48
COMMENT-BODY:Jonathan
Well said. Being a supporter means taking the good times and the bad, but customers do hve a right to complain.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: corrib04
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:50
COMMENT-BODY:test
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:54
COMMENT-BODY:pual67
I think you are being generous in your summation of G.S.and you politely assassinate him.
You deserve tremendous credit for this siteof which we are all junkies.Look forward to meeting you some day.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Parkheadcumsalford
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:57
COMMENT-BODY:Pfayr,
Keep ranting about the injustices. They won't stop but it is well past the time that we simply ignored or endured them. Their cheating and their getting away with it is nothing new at all. Now, with most of their games being broadcast, they can't be hidden (although the media might not highlight them).
It only makes the times we do succeed all the sweeter. Now, let's hope our manager has the courage to make the necessary changes at Fir Park and breathe new life into the league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 18:58
COMMENT-BODY:Fabrizio,
Weir came in last winter along with Ehiguo. Dailly is a loan signing as is Davis who looks a good capture Here´s hoping that the 5m Fulham want will be too much. Faye was another loan signing. We have one loan siging Samaras
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Gordon_J
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:01
COMMENT-BODY:To: info@scottishfa.co.uk
Subject: Walter Smith - Touchline Ban
Dear Sirs,
It is my understanding from media reports that the SFA banned Walter Smith, the Rangers manager, from the touchline for two games following his disgraceful behaviour in the Scottish Cup semi final replay against Hibernian. Again from media reports, my understanding was that the two games covered by the ban would be last week’s game against Celtic and today’s against Dundee United.
Pictures from Setanta TV clearly showed Mr Smith on the touchline in the 70th minute of today’s match, in apparent contravention of the ban imposed.
I would be grateful if you could advise me how this incident will be investigated by the SFA.
Yours sincerely
What are the odds on a reply???
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: oldtim67
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:01
COMMENT-BODY:Martin42.
I know I said this is the worst team I have watched,but I have watched worse over the years.
I'm was very low after that performance Yesterday,but I'll be first in the queue to renew my season ticket.
There was a supporter who flung his scarf to the ground after the game Yesterday,where do these people come from,why couldn't he give it to some kid who would be pleased to accept it as a present.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:18
COMMENT-BODY:It would seem to me that my Celtic supporting credentials are being questioned for having the audacity to ask for answers to what I consider to be pertinent questions.
I am faithful through and through but I do believe that this is a real crisis. I believe that it is a crisis of our own making.
I am not a lemming however and dont feel the need to follow follow as some would have us do regardless.
Celtic belongs as much to me as it does to DD.
I´ll buy my season tickets and merchandise and follow Celtic around Europe as I always do. As I done when the people in charge were taking us for a ride. Its my birthright and quite simply nobody can take that away from me.
Is it possible to drop the emotional blackmail that raises its ugly head far too often when it comes to discussing these matters. For me its just like waving a little white flag of surrender
It was said above that to consider that DD cares less about Celtic than Murray does about Rangers was being naive and then a general portrayal of both mens business acumen and personalities as some kind of way of assering this. This seems to be a trait of our support. As Tony Benn would say policies not personalities thank you !
If Murray debt ridden buisnesses absorbed 50m of Rangers debt then ... why does that not count ? If DD was to announce that he was going to absorb Celtic debt in one of his many NON DEBT ridden buisnesses would we be calling him a vain glorious fool ?
Is there a difference between being naive and been buttoned up the back dependent on your persuasion?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:18
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67,
Do you think Laporta and rest of the board are aware of the rumblings of the supporters?
Does he still have regular meetings with the fans associations or whatever?
If so, if their is another meeting planned will the association put forward the views of the fans? In other words will it take a vote of no confidence being issued public to make the board known the fans feelings or do you think a decision will be made sooner rather than later?
Although it isn't happening just now the last thing we need in the summer, is going through the summer looking for a manager, him then coming and assessing players leaving him he haw time to get some positions sorted for the new season and the transfer windy shutting.
Then again who's to know that Gordon has not made his intetions clear that he planned to quit after this season anyway regardless the outcome of the league and moves already been made?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:23
COMMENT-BODY:Gerry, I would hope not. Undermine a manager who is chasing a title and reap the rewards.
Nelsbhoy, looking forward to it.
WGS, yes, I am sure they are aware.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:26
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67,
were they aware of the discontent over the lack of spend over the last two summers?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:27
COMMENT-BODY:Would those who want a new manager in now be prepared to trawl in the sea of presently unemployed coaches?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: fan-a-tic
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:27
COMMENT-BODY:To question a support who have probably put more money into this club than any other team in world football and not question a board who reinvested a small percentage of a large profit is obscene.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:30
COMMENT-BODY:What's this nonsense about Newcastle beating off Villa and Sunderland with a £10m "swoop" for Aiden?
Anyone with any info?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: David
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:31
COMMENT-BODY:An interesting article in this weeks Mayo Advertiser by John Maughan ex Roscommon GAA manager. Although he quotes the beast his points are well made and parallels can be drawn to our own situation.
When you consider that the National League means little in GAA circles and that the Championship is everything there are are going to be thirty one disappointed counties.
I suppose this is the times we are now living in where there is no room for mistakes or defeat. thankfuly this was not always the case Jock Stien's team only won three out of his first nine games as Celtic manager.
John Maughan
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tinytim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:33
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67
I know that he will not play the sugar Daddy,but i would take it.(in the short term)
I was just dreaming.
Barcabhoy.
I could not agree more with your last post.
One should not live in the past ,but i would be delighted of MON came back.
I just can't see it happening.
His wifes health has not stopped him from doing a good job at Villa.
He could fly to Glasgow in one hour, from his home.
I think that he felt that he had achieved all he could with the funds available to him ,and that the Celtic ship was sinking.
MON coming back would erase all my fears,but as i say i don't think that it will happen.
DD if you read this ,PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tinytim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:37
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67
There has been a lot of comments about the fans reaction to the match yesterday within the stadium.
What was it like in your area yesterday ,after the match ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Aqua Al
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:43
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67
Your article sums up many of my feelings - Strachan must go.
I deliberately never posted till today so I could try and write a little less emotionally.
I've never been a Strachan fan since day one (and posted as such when he joined) but I backed him 100% at games and when he was discussed on here. I even wrote not long ago on the reasons he was as good as/better than MON.
I wrote just after the Jan window on the boards backing of him, the strengthening across the entire spine of the team and the potential "gem" in Samaras. but my opinion now differs.
If there is one skill a good manager MUST possess it's the ability to make change when necessary. That is CHANGE via the transfer market, CHANGE via substitutions and CHANGE to players attitudes and belief when the game is going against us. The latter is where I feel let down and where he has failed for me.
At the Rangers game we looked a decent side first half and what I can't accept is a Celtic team that looked less motivated second half -this is Strachan's failing
Similarly yesterday, Strachan's key role was to motivate players and make them understand the need for a win yesterday - to me there just wasn't enough desire. Some players have to look at themselves but ultimately this is what you pay a manager for - to get the best out of what you have.
For this reason, it's time to say a massive "thanks" for last 16 Champions League twice and all the domestic success but when the going got tough - he simply didn't get going......
My choices for a replacement in order of desire:
1 Tommy Burns - health allowing
2 Tony Mowbury
3 John Hughes
Yours in Celtic
AquaAl
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tam
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:46
COMMENT-BODY:Ow Dear AquaAl
What a laugh nearly choked on ma pina colada
1 Tommy Burns - health allowing
2 Tony Mowbury
3 John Hughes
PLEASE PLEASE be a litle more ambitious than this ha ha ha ha ha
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dennis 47
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:51
COMMENT-BODY:Didn't buy a paper today and I'm off to France tomorrow for a week or so. At least I'll miss the blizzard of sh** that will be flying our way, and who knows, perhaps by the time I get back there may be a glimmer of hope.
God knows we could be doing with one.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:54
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:56
COMMENT-BODY:Thom The Thim,
That all depends on the question on who was responsible for us not buying qaulity full backs last summer when every man and his donkey knew that we we needed them desperately. IMHO whoever was involved in this judgement needs to step up to the plate and answer some questions honestly. We complained about it last summer. We pointed out that Rangers were stacking up the stakes and having a last throw of the dice. Nothing happened. We agreed out of common courtesy and deceny to wait until the summer. Unfortunately its spring and even if we somehow conspire to win the SPL our standard of performance isn´´t acceptable . The people who make these decisions have proven to have flawed judgement.
As I said before if their is an honest open analysis then we can move on with or without people losing their jobs. It needs to be showed that we are not being taken for granted and placated with hollow sound bites.
I think if DD had a look at Dundee Utd. last three games against Rangers and compared it with our last three games he´ll be looking at a list of names tonight.
For the record I say with WGS we either back him to the hilt Its not in any small way due to him that we have performed well financially so lets give him some decent funds or sack him. At the moment I dont care which way it goes but if we have a summer of wheel and deal with a net spend of + or - 1m and we cant put Rangers or any other team as under much pressure as Dundee Utd. can then I fear the writing is on the wall for WGS.
He has no quality signings performing well so he has done well with his cheaper signings (a good thing) but he has no plan B because his blue chip signings have been poor ( a bad thing) and every man and his dog knows how to play against us therefore we are snookered. His inability to change things is not stubbornness but a genuine belief that he is putting out his best 11..... and I agree
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 19:59
COMMENT-BODY:AQUA,
TB??? Everything being well i hope he will be back at Celtic but not as a manager.
Firstly, considering his poor health and what the job entails i would not wish Tommy to go through that strain as well.
Secondly, I don't think much would change if TB was in charge. He would still persist in playing McManus and Caldwell i reckon just like he did with Brian O 'Neill and Malky MacKay etc.
TB never had a defence and that's what his failing was. He couldn't build one either and was loyal to certain players as well.
He did better rate in the market though and could buy quality players for the attack. Something i would love to see again.
I would say over my time watching Celtic i would say that the best defence we put together was when Wim was in charge and MON was in charge. Tommy signed Stubbs but couldn't get a decent partner. Wim found the partner in Rieper. Unfortaunatley, Rieper go injured after one season, then we never got better at the back till Martin came and made Johan a player and bought Joos and Bobo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: JonG
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:00
COMMENT-BODY:This situation has been festering for the past year and more.A lucky manager is a lucky manager.
No,or little opposition from the south side in the past two seasons, onlyhelped to perpetrate the myth that WGS was a good manager.
We now have a real mess to clean up when he walks as predicted by many on here.
Speed is of the essence if we are to start next season without the major handicap of keeping most of a pool of underachievers, and bad buys.
Tomorrow i will again God willing wake up a Celtic supporter,and i can't wait to receive my season ticket renewall in the post.Even if WGS is retained for another year, his presence will not diminish my support for all things Celtic and i will be there as always.
Hail Hail.
JonG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:05
COMMENT-BODY:Not wishing to rain on anyone’s parade, but find it quite ironic that the newest recruit to the mineshafters camp is our very own manager, who is widely quoted in today papers conceding the title to the fod.
Surely he should be leading from the front, not throwing in the towel. How are the players going to motivate themselves for the run in when the manager thinks it already finished? Really disappointed in that
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: nelsbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:06
COMMENT-BODY:Ohhhhh Artur Boruc,
The holy goalie,
he hates the huns!!
He blessed himself at Ibrox and the Huns went off their nut,
he's off his fecking rocket and sings GOD BLESS THE POPE# oh the holy goalie
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: b2k
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:09
COMMENT-BODY:David 19.31
Very interesting read and the first time that I have been at one with Souness. His idea that of 52,000 that turned up to watch Newcastle 20,000 were supporters and the 30,000 plus were 'customers' hits the nail on the head.
My wee group had season standing at the old Celtic end terracing pre Fergus and we remember bad days. Current times are not bad. They could be better god knows but we've seen so much worse and as suporters we'll live with that. Already on this site people are talking of not renewing season tickets. So be it. Those that are supporters, not customers will still be there and I'm confident there are still plenty of us about.
Hail hail and hang on in for 3 in a row.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:13
COMMENT-BODY:All good football teams have a spine or backbone. Celtic at the moment don't.
Think back we had Lambert Lennon
Bobo, Joos, Mjallby, Larsson and Sutton. Solid
I believe present we got something in the middle in Brown if we could get a solid partner in.
At the back we have nothing. Upfront as well, although i reckon Georgis could do a job. We have no spine in our team. It's no rocket science how to build a team.
Man U
Vidic, Ferdinand
Hargreaves, Scholes
Rooney, Ronaldo = Solid spine
Everton to an extent
Yobo, Lescott
Carsley, Cahill
Yakubu, Johnston = solid spine
Liverpool
Carragher, Agger/Hyppia
Gerrard, Mascherano/Alonso
Torres = solid spine
Chelsea
Terry , Carvalho
Makeale , Lampard
Drogba, Anelka = Solid spine
Portsmouth
Distin, Campbell
Muntari, Diop
Defoe,
MON had generals he could play but get stuck in for the flair players like Lubo, Naka, Aiden to play etc..
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:15
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67,
Stick my CV in for succession to WGS and i'll promise all CQN'rs i will do evrything I possibly can to bring success back to our football club .
You'll have first dibs on interviews:)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: glasgowdave
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:19
COMMENT-BODY:Hi Guys
Like many yesterday, I expected a reaction after the defeat
of last week, and actually thought we started better than
we had of late. However, 30 minutes into the game and we all
could see the same old pattern emerging.
Even, when Motherwell went down to ten men, I turned to my
brother and said, it would make no difference.
How can a Celtic team be so insipid, playing at home, against a well organised, but average team?
I had the radio on, on the way home, and the interviewer, asked
Gordon, what he intended doing now.
Gordon said 'I don't know, I've never had a plan in my life'
Well Gordon, It certainly showed yesterday.
Gordon deemed the very midfield he played yesterday, not good
enough at christmas that he went out and bought BR.
Why wasn't he playing ? Paul Hartley will battle for the hoops
until he drops, we need players like him in the run in.
Why Gordon, are you blinded, to what everyone else can see ?
Answers on a postcard please...
Yesterday,should have been the fightback, as it was almost
inevitable that the Govanites would drop points this weekend.
Instead, we loose a point on them.
Even this happy clapper, is becoming less convinced we have
what it takes, but all I ask is that Gordon, picks a team that
will give us a fighting chance.
If he can do that then game-on.
Until it's mathematically over, keep telling it Martin42
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:19
COMMENT-BODY:Nope, Murdo, you're right. Not even a yellow, was it? Ridiculous
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Jinky
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:20
COMMENT-BODY:I remember the good ol' days, pre Dec 2007 !
Strachan only has 12 months on his contract - and next week he'll still have 12 months.
Keeping the (blind) faith for 3 in a row.....
Jinky
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Jonathan88
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:22
COMMENT-BODY:I'm afraid I am not a customer.
A customer does not stick to one brand.
They go in search of the best available product for the best price.
Some would liken this to the attributes of a 'glory-hunter'.
This is not my relationship with Celtic.
I haven't said no-one can criticise.
Criticise if you want, I'm unhappy too, we have some players who will need to be moved on come the end of the season.
Until the END of the season however, we should support them if/when they play.
Questions can be asked, I have not condemned this.
Asking the question indirectly in the stadium by chanting against the current manager and booing the current players is the wrong way to do it and to the detriment of the whole club.
Again, the money issue.
Chelsea spend a lot more than everyone else but they don't win every game and every league.
Why should we?
Arsenal fans, Chelsea fans etc etc pay unbelievable amounts of money to go watch their team, but they don't win every game and they aren't winning the league this year.
Man Utd fans will continue paying a lot of money to see their club, but they won't keep winning the league. They also don't win every game, evidenced by today's result.
Huns pay a lot of money every season and they had two years of no trophies.
I don't see how we can expect to win everything just because we pay money (through choice) to go watch our team or own some merchandise.
As I stated before, it is a cycle with football.
Losing the league is something that will continue to happen.
Just like winning the league will continue to happen.
Deny it if you want, be greedy if you want but we will never win every game and every league from now until the end of time.
It just isn't possible.
No-one has ever done it and no-one ever will.
If you figure out the formula though, let us know.
I can question the support if I want, my prerogative.
I would say its obscene to give up when there's something left to fight for.
Now's the time for fighting and I don't mean in-fighting.
I'm concerned at the current performances but discouraging the players and the staff at this point in the season will do no-one any good.
I am not a lemming and will not follow follow the line down the mineshaft. Not even if we were to lose our title.
I will voice my concerns and questions properly when the time is right.
Jonathan88
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: lubo1977
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:24
COMMENT-BODY:next celtic manager will be slaven bilic, the current croatia manager
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:26
COMMENT-BODY:Lubo1977,
Bilic just signed an extension to his current contract.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tinytim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:29
COMMENT-BODY:WGS
Absolutely spot on.
This team has no spine.
You are correct, it's not rocket science.
The man is a football theorist.Practicality comes first in my book.
P.S. Has James stopped posting?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Attila the Tim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:29
COMMENT-BODY:I don't think I need to say that I have been slightly depressed at the manner in which we dropped two points at home to Dundee United, or lost the replay to Aberdeen. After that match I first began to have real doubts about whether Gordon Strachan could take the club further. Until then I was always certain that he should stay - why should someone with his record of achievement at Celtic find his position questioned?
After losing at Ibrox last Saturday, the immediate thought was that the league was over. As the days went by, a degree of hope flickered and revived. Watching Rangers play Sporting on Thursday, the two things that stood out were that (a) Rangers are poor, and (b) Rangers looked tired. And you look at the fixture list, and think if we get a good win against Motherwell, and Rangers drop points at Tannadice, then a bit of pressure will return, and then if we win the first game against them - can they handle it both physically and mentally? And I really believed it was not all over.
And then at five past two yesterday afternoon, I was waiting for the bus to take me into the City Centre, listening to the radio, and I heard the team news...
What can I possibly say about that, that has not already been said by so many on here over the past 24 hours?
My take on the game is that is was exactly the same as the Dundee United and Aberdeen games last month. A bright start for about 15 or 20 minutes, followed by a decline into general mediocrity, finishing with the cavalry charge that smacks of desperation, but completely lacking in inspiration or imagination. And this time there was not so much of a charge, more of a trot.
Yet this is the exact same starting eleven that seven weeks ago beat Hearts 3-0 with an impressive performance, one that had us believing we could give Barcelona a good game. The difference was that against Hearts we scored in that early period. When we don't, we have serious problems.
Yesterday's match showed all of those problems at their worst. The wrong players are chosen, the build up play is both predictable and slow, the substitutions do not change the style of play, and are not made quickly enough.
The team is less than the sum of its parts. I still believe that man-for-man, we are better than Rangers. So why are they a better team? And they are a better team, principally because they play like a team. We do not, we appear to lack fighting spirit, and we certainly lack leadership on the field.
Back in June 2005, Gordon Strachan had only two realistic options as club captain. In my opinion, at the time, he chose the wrong one. If he had chosen Stilian Petrov, would he still be here, captaining Celtic, hopefully to three-in-a-row?
But that is in the past. And the past is a foreign country. Gordon Strachan's achievements in the past are no longer relevant. All that matters now is the future.
And so, with some reluctance, I have now also joined the club. I no longer believe that Gordon Strachan is the man to lead Celtic next season.
Of course my view does not count. There are only three people, at most, who do. As long as he has the backing of Messrs Desmond, Lawwell and Reid, he is safe.
If they are not sure about whether he is the man for next season, then we have a problem, because it is always a risk to appoint a new manager. There are no guarantees about picking the right man. But if they are sure that he is not going to improve the team next season, the decision is made.
I presume that at least two of those men were present at Celtic Park yesterday. They saw what I saw. They heard what I heard. No manager can realistically survive that.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:33
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear,dear,dear,friend... WGS.
Back now from Tiffin...
I feel a lot more hopeful... than I have felt for weeks... something tells me that we are in for one Heckava Ride!
As John Paul Jones, said.... I think?... or maybe is was Al Jolson?...
who knows?
"I have not yet begun to fight!...or.. "You Ain't hoid nuttin' yet!"
You and your good self, disagree on some things.... but we are staunchly Pinkety Pinkety in this...
"Mr.Strachan's Folly"...
Whit wiz dat?
When Gordon named Mr.Mick to the Captaincy...thereby, Granting Mick .... a Life Time Tenure... making the said Bumbler..( Bumbler?..whiz that Gordon?..or are yer referring to Mick?....ed)( Take yer Pick~) an immovable object.
Mick, has been the soft under-belly.. in the Celtic Defense, for months...
He canny Jump.
He is slow to react.
He canny distribute the ball to a friendly colleague... that little item, is written in stone in his contract...or so it seems.
We shall never be able to have a comfortable afternoon ,enjoying a match, exuding with confidence...as long as Mick is in the Middle.!
And in that...I ain't whistling Dixie.
A new Broom will probably find out that Mick is the Achilles that refuses to Heal... or woids to that effect.
We shall see.
Kojo.
yer pal...who always liked ye.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:33
COMMENT-BODY:TinyTim,
James???? I've missed something?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: eagle
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:39
COMMENT-BODY:GerryAdams'Beard(15.20) got it right. It is unedifying to see how some Celtic fans have tuned against GS this season. Yes there have been (are) problems with players and team selections but it is clear that many fans did not like GC at the start of his tenure, tolerated him when he was doing well and now are out to get him. I do not recall the same reaction in MON's last season. Is that because MON was perceived to be 'Celtic-MInded' while GS is not? I would hope not.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:40
COMMENT-BODY:Bloke109 20.19 - I was listening on the radio and Murdo said (in essence) "when the referee sees that again on the TV pictures he'll realise he got it totally wrong" and then ranted on about how it wasn't even a yellow.
If Murdo was looking at the pictures too I can only imagine he took leave of his senses. Either that or he was relying on Chick through the headphones.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:54
COMMENT-BODY:Awe Naw,
This was my question,
"Would those who want a new manager in now be prepared to trawl in the sea of presently unemployed coaches?
06/04/08 19:27
Your reply was well written, but I think it may have been meant for someone else.
At 06/04/08 19:56, Blogger Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo said…
Thom The Thim,
IF there is a managerial change, I wonder how a team of Hitzfeld, Lambert and Lennon would measure up?
Experience, potential and a feeling for the club and all linked together in their careers.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Drillermiller
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 20:54
COMMENT-BODY:The usual knee jerk suspects have written on the web that strachan should go, but I was genuinely stunned to read Paul write this too. Paul is one of those few web writers who rarely criticise. I place him along with some on ETims and Celticunderground as slightly more considered on their hoops writings than others on the web.
To read both Paul and Harry Brady on CU say (in very considered tones) say the manager should go when both have been more supportive than most on the web, I would suggest there is no way back for the wee man (even if we SOMEHOW) managed to win this thing.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulster-Celt
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 21:15
COMMENT-BODY:eagle 20.39
nothing to do with celtic minded
Martin O'neill was and is in a different league to WGS
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Hanif Uno Dahistri
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 21:33
COMMENT-BODY:not Roy Keane.
Macho arrogant eejit who has proved nothing so far.
Tony Mowbray. Intelligence, work ethic, knows about Scottish football, ambitious.
WGS, I defended you. Unfortunately, like Celtic, I can't defend these days.
HUD
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: danny
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 21:39
COMMENT-BODY:drillermiller
Calls for Strachan to go are hardly knee jerk reactions. In addition most people are saying he will go, that's more these people stating the reality of the situation than calling for his head. He will not be the Celtic manager next season.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 21:39
COMMENT-BODY:Thom the Thim,
It was meant for you but I was being my usual obtuse self. I think a manager is now being looked for. His present employment status will not figure as no large compensation figure would change hands.
I think Hitzfield is a spent force and I thought Bertie Vogts was a breath of fresh air. I´d be surprised if working for Celtic would motivate Hitzfield and Lennon and Lambert are not ready.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Curly
COMMENT-DATE:06/04/08 21:49
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67 -
You have mail
Lurcy
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TITLE: You really must believe us...
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 4/04/2008 01:11:00 PM
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BODY:
I never quite got to the edge of my seat on Saturday because I was never convinced that the Celtic players believed they were going to score a goal. Even when we were playing well and creating chances in the first half the necessary clinical element was absent.
This must be fixed in our next three games, home and away against Motherwell and then Rangers at Celtic Park.
You and I have seen enough of Celtic this season to know that we can expect problems in each of these games; we lost at home last month to an Aberdeen team considerably poorer than Motherwell, so complacency will be the least of our concerns.
I remember watching a news report in March 1986 after we drew 4-4 against a Rangers team who at the time were in the bottom half of the league (why do we hear so much about the ‘worst Rangers team in living memory’ recently?).
The report read, “The Scottish league is a three horse race between Hearts, Dundee United and Aberdeen”.
Celtic had eight games left, but the news reporter had not considered that most of these games looked winnable. A few weeks later we had to go to Pittodrie, never an easy place back then, the same day leaders Hearts went to Tannadice. After a great win over Aberdeen, we returned to the bus to hear Hearts had won 0-3, which was a hugely impressive victory and looked to have set them up for the run-in.
Celtic won all eight games, the other dropped points and, of course, Celtic won an improbable title.
We have eight games left this season; winning the first three would again ask questions of Rangers and put them under pressure.
You, me and Celtic have been through a lot over the years and we know better than to confuse what looks improbable with the impossible. It’s time for Celtic to start believing and shock Motherwell into next week.
We’re gon’nay win the league.Labels: Match Report
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Click The Ads!
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:13
COMMENT-BODY:Keep the Faith Bhoys!!!
STAND UP FOR THE CHAMPIONS!!
cta!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the right rev. david hay (preaching pure football)
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:14
COMMENT-BODY:youve read my comments ya monkey
on the kiosk overpost.
AND SO SAY ALL OF US
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ExPort Tim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:14
COMMENT-BODY:shoots !
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:16
COMMENT-BODY:sixoclockatthechapel@12.52
Good Man! I'm in the 'think we've blown it' camp but bhoy oh bhoy do I hope your right and I'm wrong.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:17
COMMENT-BODY:from previous article:
Tony Bananas, yes, Celtic and Rangers will play an equal number of home and away games.
OldTim67, I will not be at BBs, but my Dad and Kevin will be there.
Rammybhoy, winning this year would certainly finish them.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bieniex
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:17
COMMENT-BODY:Anyone know a bar in Nice I can see the game ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:20
COMMENT-BODY:Lhads
Off topic, but can anyone recommend a good source for finding a week's holiday accommodation in Ireland for August?
Preferably Cork, Kerry, Galway or Mayo.
All recommendations welcome.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: CelticFCNumeroUno
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:22
COMMENT-BODY:Its been a strange couple of weeks for me.
Ive went from feeling that the league was gone to now thinking about having a wee bet on us to win it.
Funnily enough it was the day after losing to them that i realised that this championship is there for the taking if the players want it badly enough.
Bringing Lenny back in is a great idea,he should really be able to help fire the bhoys up for the run in.
You really must believe us...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BigChipSuk
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:31
COMMENT-BODY:Damn. Too late...
9th?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: StevieS
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:33
COMMENT-BODY:If I may steal a few works from The Monkeys….
I think this is a little relevant for some of us this season. ? :-)
I thought love was more or less a given thing,
Seems the more I gave the less I got.
Whats the use in tryin?
All you get is pain.
When I needed sunshine I got rain.
Then I saw her face, now Im a believer
Not a trace of doubt in my mind.
Im in love, Im a believer!
I couldnt leave her if I tried.
Roar them on tomorrow bhoys! Have a great weekend all.
StevieS
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Viewfromthewindae
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:35
COMMENT-BODY:The view fae my windae this morning was of WGS taking the first team for shooting practice, 18 yards out, one touch and shoot. Bad news Bhoys only two got pass marks, Skippy and Ben. Ben was undoubtedly the most accurate and strongest finisher, looks a class act. Then off goes WGS and most of the first team, leaving Lennon and McGeadie, over strolls this skinny fellow from the second string, a few words with Lennon the bang bang bang, 8 out of 10 from 20 yards, top right, top left, no worries, goalkeeper nowhere. Why Oh why can’t Riordan get a game? This fellow should be a £10m player by now. If anyone has any influence over WGS ask him to give Riordan a run, he might just score the goals to win the title.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: chennaiseabird
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:50
COMMENT-BODY:Interesting comment about players not believing they would score. I don't know if the point has been made already on the blog, but if my memory is correct, in the two games against Rangers so far this season not one Celtic player has ever scored against them for Celtic.
Time for that to change.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: thismancraig
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:56
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA (from the last thread)
I disagree, the league was only there to lose in 2005. People forget we got out of jail free at Tynecastle the previous week.
Anyways, none of this chat is going to help us win the league and I'm just back from a lunchtime double celebration Peroni.
I'd love to join in the 'you really must beleive us' but I can't. The players always have my full support though. The biggest boost I can take from this week, football wise, is the comparison to Celtic in 1988. By my calculations that makes this their last league win until 2018.
Fine by me!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:57
COMMENT-BODY:For those of us old enough to remember and those of us with an eye to history, today is notable for even more than Aiden’s birthday (or Britney’s sister for that matter).
On 4th April 1968 on the balcony of the Lorraine Motel in Memphis one the greatest men of the twentieth century was shot dead by an assassin’s bullet, fired from a rifle aimed by a society that longed to live in the past and closed their eyes to the possibilities of the future.
Martin Luther King jnr died that day but the torch he had received from Mahatma Ghandi burnt on, and was picked up and waved to the heavens by his wife Coretta Scott King and the likes of Nelson Mandela.
It would be crass, insensitive and over the top to quote his ‘I have a dream’ speech in the context of a mere football team, even though that team is Celtic.
I will however quote a little something from the old testament which is also the inscription on his memorial at the Lorraine Motel. It has got a relevance in so many walks of life that I am sure the scribes of that august work wouldn’t mind me using it as a little aide-memoire of why we believe in anything; and why others mock, rail about the incompetence of the past and throw in the towel.
"And they said one to another, behold, this dreamer cometh. Come now therefore, and let us slay him... and we shall see what will become of his dreams." Genesis 37:19, 20
So mock away but I’ll stick with my dream.
Those who don’t dream don’t want to dream, or can’t dream, then fine.
Prepare yourself for the disappointment as you are doing. Keep your feet firmly planted in the clay of despondency and the shadow of resignation. That way the pain of loss will not be exacerbated by the figurative battering I suppose I will receive as my hopes sublime like Icarian wax and I plummet to the stony infertile plains below.
However being a dreamer I suppose, I find the atmosphere is heady and spacious up here, and if my wings turn to ashes I can handle the drop. I can face the disappointment and anyway I’ve got a thousand more dreams about the future that I need to use up.
I'll just glue on a new pair of wings and ....chocks away....We're on our way to Paradise...!!!
And for me, that is what it is all about!
Of course if it does come true....well that's some climb back up you've got! I'll have a Guinness waiting!
Hail hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BlantyreKev
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:57
COMMENT-BODY:Thumping Murrawo tomorrow will drive on Dundee United for Sunday who have recently seen 3rd place becoming a more remote probability.
This would be the sweetest league title since '98 and rival '86. C'mon the hoops!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: rammybhoy
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 13:59
COMMENT-BODY:Albert's Day
meanwhile in Paisley ;-)
We've all seen the Love Street game but Hearts had gone about 30+ games unbeaten. They were a decent side at the time.
What possible moonbeams would be left if we won the league?
I grew up watching Celtic in the late 70's early 80's. Not bad times, winning regularly and a few trophies to boot.
I then kept going through the 90's and seriously wondered if I'd ever see us properly challenging again, far less getting to a European final.
The day I knew we had really hurt them, it was the week after we stopped 10 in a row and they lost to Hearts in the cup final. An empty season. They were absolutely spent.
The waistcoat was on his way, their dejection was wonderful.
I think they were lucky that there was a change in management because it gave them a fresh start (along with spending a lot of money).
What would they do this time, no such luxury
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:00
COMMENT-BODY:ViewFrom,
I doubt that we will know the truth of the matter in this instance. There is every chance that it will remain one of those footballing enigmas, forever shrouded in secrecy.
Either that or we may find one of the two protagonists might divulge their side of the story after they leave the club, possibly for some filthy lucre courtesy of some red-top-rag???
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Onlooker
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:01
COMMENT-BODY:Viewfrom..
At 2:45 each home match you will see the same level of inaccuracy displayed by the usual suspects ( with the exception of Riordan)
Henrik used to regularly skelp unsuspecting Bovril drinkers in the Jock Stein Stand during these practise sessions but did not too badly when doing it for real.
The Onlooker
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:04
COMMENT-BODY:Early morning, April 4
Shot rings out in the Memphis sky
Free at last, they took your life
They could not take your pride
.... anyone else think that Linkin Park have been listening too much to the Joshua Tree
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:07
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic TV are preparing for the 20th anniversary of the Centenary Season and would like to contact the young mascot from the day we were presented with the league trophy against Dunfermline.
I believe his name is Stuart Murphy, then from Hamilton.
If you know Stuart, ask him to get in touch via the About page.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Madra Rua
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:08
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic First.
I'm trying to contact a mate of mine (Celtic Fan) whos out of the
country at the moment. He runs a business of personalized tours of the west coast for Americans.
I've no doubt he will give you good advice, I might be able to help as well.
Email me at madrarua88@gmail.com
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: hoopsIdiditagain
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:09
COMMENT-BODY:Paul
I take it this is what the last line should read.
We’re gon’nay win the league
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Antibes
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:14
COMMENT-BODY:Bieniex,
I don't know any place in Nice that will show the game.
In any case, if it's not on Setanta, nowhere will have it.
If it is on Setanta, then phone Quays Pub in centre of Cannes, by the port,the day before. They have Setanta and usually show Celtic if asked. Otherwise they put on SKY and the EPL for the english punters. (Tel. 04.93.39.27.84)
I watched the Hun game there last weekend. They have Guinness on tap :)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: thismancraig
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:14
COMMENT-BODY:Is that new 'interactive' CQN where you insert the adjective of your choice?
Choose from:
Win; or
Come 2nd in.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:19
COMMENT-BODY:thismancraig:
I see where you're coming from:
a bit like - golry hunter or supporter - depending on the table of the day.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:28
COMMENT-BODY:This is positively my last word for today. I really need to go and do something that will potentially bring in a few bob!
Ah the mystery of Mr Derek Riorden!
Derek Riorden is a gifted footballer with the unfulfilled potential of both playing at a much higher level than Celtic Reserve team football and making an impression on the bench.
His 1st team games as a substitute have produced a few important goals, but others have produced nothing. His games where he has started (and I include the likes of Dundee in this), he has disappointed to the point of utter frustration.
Going to watch the reserves regularly I also get to see a comparison with others such as Paul McGowan, Dermot O’Carroll, Michael McGlinchey, Ben Hutcheson, Koko Mizuno and the recently returned Cilian Sheridan.
Believe me his effort and commitment is way below what you would expect of a senior professional, his team awareness therefore suffers as he ambles around the park until the ball actually comes to him, and his physical development has come to an abrupt halt.
I think that you will find that he simply stopped making an effort when he came to Celtic and as such is now being caught up and overtaken by younger hungrier players.
Finally for those who remember his exploits at Hibs, please also remember that Tony Mowbray did not pick him regularly, and although one or two clubs have made known their interest in him, strangely enough WBA are conspicuous by there absence.
Of course all of the above may be totally wrong and Gordon Strachan and his coaching team are deliberately ignoring a diamond in their midst. Even worse, they are deliberately torturing the poor wee bhoy by putting him on the bench when he would much rather be doing something else, and then heaping insult upon insult by stating that he has tremendous skill but is not performing well enough to get a starting place.
Liars! Liars! Every one of them!
I don’t think so!
You may disagree with their selection, you may even regard them as incompetent but Machiavellian rumours are patently ridiculous. Professional suicide and misconduct are not phrases that come to mind when talking about our management and coaching team.
Hail hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:29
COMMENT-BODY:AweNaw- 'Linkin Park'??
TMC,please please,please reassure me that we will never agree on anything;~)
Well, apart from a dislike of the Horribles.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:31
COMMENT-BODY:Stoir Mha Chroi,
Re last post. Not sure if you are agreeing with me or not, but I take your point. It is a dirty business and sometimes you need to fight dirty to survive.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: thismancraig
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:34
COMMENT-BODY:dbb
I'm sure we can come to some sort of G83 related agreement / understanding!
dislike...not even close!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 14:50
COMMENT-BODY:C'mon Estadio - your one of the good ghuys on here, surely you of all people can see we're all different with different experiences of supporting Celtic? Some probably thru bitter past experience, cant quite get their head round the notion that we can be so poor in the SPL, particularly against the fod, and yet somehow or other we're still gonna win the league?
What your saying is that if you don’t believe we can still win it then…."keep your feet firmly planted in the clay of despondency and the shadow of resignation". Thanks, that’s cheered us all up no end! Its bad enough having accepted that we've blown it this season, but surely we can dream about what might happen next season without being told we're all miserable gits stuck firmly in a dark place!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:01
COMMENT-BODY:Itsallova,
I have to agree with estadio, whilst the opTIMists/happyclappers are trying their best to keep positive and give ourselves a little hope the pesimists/mineshafters constantly raining on our parade telling us to sober up and climb into the mineshaft with them, when estadio airs his positive outlook and describes his opinion/analogy he's spot on and if your not keen on his analogy, then come on over and clap with us.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:02
COMMENT-BODY:HoopsI, well spotted. Thanks.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:15
COMMENT-BODY:Itzallova.
Mea Culpa.
Frustration, Bronchitis and no drink for a week are my excuses.
I think everyone is not only entitled to an opinion, but I think that everyone should have a different one; in exactly the same way as we are all different as people, with a million different experiences that go to make up what we are.
HOWEVER!
I take exception to any one Celtic Supporter mocking another. Disagree, argue by all means. But mock and sneer?
I then forget my own maxim that fighting fire with fire is bad; water is much preferable.
And so I may have used a gattlig gun when all that was required was a telescopic sighted AK47.
The point however was not against those who simply don't believe we will win the league. I haven't searched myself deeply enough to answer that, for there is too much faith to be dug through before those bones would be uncovered.
It is aimed at those who mock the dreamers and sneer at those who can still see the sun shining through the bars of dungeon whose door may soon swing shut not to opened again till August.
Till that key finally turns and the blue clad humpy-backed gaoler limps away dragging his left leg behind him, scratching his bum and whistlin the sash, hope will keep me warm.
Hail Hail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mcgrory-for-arsenal
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:18
COMMENT-BODY:6 oclock........no offense at all.
Picture swally, smith , minty, durrant, barry and novo at the end of season and you'll get what hurt is.
Then ask if it was me that hurt you or the incredible incompetence of our current manager....
then you'll know who to get angry about!
We all want the same thing. = success for celts (and a bit of misery for 'them')
We aint winning this league-- not even close.
The team, our team, is leaderless and rudderless.
Interesting that paul67 mentions the team of 86. That was a team choc-full of leaders and STRONG characters.
Comparing that group of players to the one assembled by our current manager says it ALL about ....our current manager.
He doesnt want strong characters in his dressing room. That is an indictment on his abilities as a leader and a motivator.
think of the strength of character in that 86 team and of jock's team and of MON 's team. then think of the strach's teams.......
This is the worst domestic campaign of any Celtic manager in the last 40 years --with the exception of Brady. Its that bad.
Strach has had to cut wages - relative to MON's time- but he has still been given big bucks both in transfer fees (Brown+Venegoor) and wages (Graveson, Jarosik)
His signings havent worked out.
His substitutions havent worked.
His tactics havent worked.
His media skills havent worked.
His record against the man who will manage Rankers next season is nothing but a joke.
The football apart from being gutless has been poor quality.
Europe has been used as Strach's defense and that's a fair point but he lost 5 out of 10 (winning 3 out of 10 aint a reason to forgive a manager the performances we've had domestically).
What is his redeeming feature?
What possible reason could there be from giving him another season??... apart from the desire to avoid the question of who else.
nobody likes the truth when it hurts but there you are....what have I said that isnt true?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tic Talk
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:20
COMMENT-BODY:Itzallova,
One thing is indisputable: IT IS NOT ALL OVER!It does not matter whether you are optimistic or pessimistic, the fact remains that IT IS NOT ALL OVER. Grounds for pessimism include the fact that we are 6 points behind (potentially 9)and are not playing cosistently well. Grounds for optimism include the fact that we have many more home games than they do; a better squad; fewer games and they are consistent but not brilliant.So, an argument can be made either way but it is IMPOSSIBLE to show that it IS all over.Until then,let`s keep the positive to the forefront and REALLY get behind our team.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: logger 'GG
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:20
COMMENT-BODY:We may be down, but we're looking up at the stars.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BigChipSuk
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:22
COMMENT-BODY:If Celtic do manage to win their last eight "Cup Finals" (so much for Rangers achieving three Cup Finals in a season!), but Rangers still win the league, then we will have to admit that they deserve it.
For this to happen Rangers will have won at least 23 (and probably 24) of their last 27 league games, which is, in anyone's book, the form of Champions.
But also, to take it to the wire we will have to win all eight remaining games. I note that in each of the last 3 seasons we have only recorded 8 or more consecutive wins once per season, and we have already done it this season, with a run of 9 wins prior to the 0-0 home draw with Dundee Utd.
It may be time to re-write recent history... 'Mon the Hoops!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:26
COMMENT-BODY:estadio / canalamar / tic talk
All fair comment, we shouldn't be doing that - raining on your parade.
To be honest I'm quite jealous of you ghuys that do still believe, and certainly wouldn't want everyone else thinking we've blown it.
Your right - the optimists are well and truly needed for the sake of the team - and I'll be coming over to join you…….…..next season!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:29
COMMENT-BODY:mcgrory-for-arsenal,
you really dont like MrStrachan do you, you are in a very dark place and your opinion although valid does nothing helpful nor positive. You are on a crusade and in spreading your negative opinion about the present Celtic manager you remind me of the scottish media, in fact I may in future refer to you as MrDailyRecord as your constant undermining is very similar.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ardoch
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:31
COMMENT-BODY:BBC1 7.30pm tonight, That Was The Team That Was, hearts 1986. Should be worth a giggle.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gweedorebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:37
COMMENT-BODY:canamalar
The fact is that there are ten of thousands that share mcgrorys view.
I would say that around 50% of the guys who actually go to the games want him out now with many more hoping for a miracle.
He must not be given another year if we lose the league.
The fact is Strachan is near to a busted flush and it's win or else time
The league can be won but if not he must walk and peter lawell should go to.
As i said before losing this league would be managerial and commercial inepitude and people should do the decent thing.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:41
COMMENT-BODY:Bieneix @ 1317hrs,
I don't know about Nice, but if you are especially keen to see the game and don't mind the drive (usually takes me about 2 hrs), then take the A8 (E80) then the A52and head for Marseille.
On Avenue de Mazargues there is O'Brady's pub, home of the Marseille CSC.
I have been here on 2 or 3 occasions for games and it is a decent boozer and as a Celt you will be warmly welcomed.
You could give them a call on 04917 15371.
I know it is a bit far, but then again distance is relative to how much you want to see the Bhoys.
HAIL! HAIL!
A Bientot,
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:55
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA
yup Linkin Park why do you ask ?
compare "Shadow Of The Day" with "With or Without You"
When I first heard it I thought it was a Mark Vidler Go Home productions mash up but no its just an unabashed rip off
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: logger 'GG
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 15:57
COMMENT-BODY:Due to my holiday and a poor wifi connection, I have been unable to post my late night meanderings.
(I know no one noticed or cared)
I just had to post this though.
I was in Key West a couple of days ago, doing what Celtic fans do, defiantly displaying my hoops.
At sunset the town gathers on the quay and there are buskers, jugglers etc and the crowd and atmosphere is carnival like as the sun sets.
I was taking it all in and guess what?
Yes a fellow Tim appeared through the throng in the away strip, and we were photographed together.
It was a young American lad but his mother swears the whole family's allegiance is to Celtic.
Just goes to show that even at the ends of the earth, 90 miles from Cuba, we can have a wee gathering of the faithful.
Hail hail from a sunny, balmy, breezy beach balcony.
'GG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:03
COMMENT-BODY:AweNaw- much to my regret we've never met but in my minds eye you were a bloke that shaved more than once a week ;~0
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Hoople
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:08
COMMENT-BODY:Estadio - you summed up exactly how I feel.
How can supporters give up before it's over?
I genuinely don't understand.
And...
If we bring in a new manager and he doesn't win the league next year, what then?
Another new manager?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:10
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA,
Due to my baby face good looks I still shave only once a week. Well anymore than that and she starts to complain, labelling me a pervert etc. ;-)
nodenyingitCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tighnabruaich67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:12
COMMENT-BODY:gweedorebhoy
The "Peter Lawell" should go to comment is possibly one of the most nonsensical comments I have ever seen on this blog, quite how you came to that assumption I will never know.
Peter Lawell is the best we have ever had in his role with admiring glances coming from all directions. He is also a celtic fan who knows what the club means to fans.
Any suggestions on someone better to fill the post.
T67
getridofeveryone.csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WGS
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:15
COMMENT-BODY:Now i won't stop believing that we will be leaving together, so when i say i love you i'll need you for ever and ever, ever and ever!!
I'm not hear to say i'm sorry!!
I'm not hear to say i'm sorry,
I'm not giving up in you. I'm hear to say i'm ready and i have finally thought it through. I'm not hear to let your love go, i'm not giving up oh know. I'm hear to win your heart and SPL, That's why im' hear!!
Yes i'm here to win your heart and SPL. That's my goal!!
That's my goalllllllllllll!!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:16
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA,
Due to my baby face good looks I still shave only once a week. Well anymore than that and she starts to complain, labelling me a pervert etc. ;-)
nodenyingitCSC
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Naomh Brid Abu
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:16
COMMENT-BODY:Bieneix,
If the match is on Setanta, you should be able to catch it in McMahon's Pub, 50 Boulevard Jean Jaures, near Place Massena, NICE.
Naomh Brid Abu
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mcgrory-for-arsenal
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:22
COMMENT-BODY:canamalar....
Im a shareholder and a season ticket holder, a former pools agent and i've been assaulted for no more reason than Im a tic fan.
Mr Dailyrecord.????
Im expressing a view..which imho..is backed up by results that our current manager is bad for our club...
for people to suggest that he could win us the league is, to me, hysterical.
strachan does not have an endearing personality but then neither did Stein.
tommy burns and John Barnes were likeable but incompetent as celtic managers.
i neither like nor dislike our current manager.
I judge him solely on whether he is good or bad for Celtic.
Losing 4 games in the row against Rankers I dont like.
Losing 2 domestic cup ties AT HOME! against poor teams I dont like
Losing against Caledonian Thistle after going 2 up i dont like
His Big signings ..I dont like
The Football Ive had to watch/endure I dont like
His pathetic attempts at substitutions I dont like
Rankers celebrating I dont like
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tighnabruaich67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:25
COMMENT-BODY:mcgrory for
Are you Kieth Jackson?
While everyones opinion is valid, your constant bleating about the manager is in danger of getting very repetitive.
Do you buy the Sun and the Record every day?
Do you live with Seansouth and Negative anon?
Sameoldsameold.csc
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ArdRi1014
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:27
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic First, don't know if this will help. http://www.ferryandcottage.co.uk/
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Marvin
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:29
COMMENT-BODY:Bieneix,
According to the useful
liveonsat
webpage, it seems there is no TV coverage of the game, so it'd probably be wise to call them before heading out.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:32
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:33
COMMENT-BODY:marvin,
according to
http://www.satfootball.com/
The game is on POLSAT 14:00 CET k.o
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:34
COMMENT-BODY:Awenaw - how often do you shave?
And are your good looks babyish, by any chance?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gweedorebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:38
COMMENT-BODY:tighnabruaich67
Business is business and some pretty fundemental strategic mistakes have been made.
The old rule usually is the buck has to stop somewhere.
It's not personal it's business. We took a strategic gamble it may or may not pay off.
If not someone has got it wrong.
My view and it's only my view is that lawell is just as guilty as strachan.
Ps mcgrory don't let them get you down they try and drive away everyone who isn't bouncing up and down with clappyness.
We are all huns supposedly.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gweedorebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:39
COMMENT-BODY:celticfirst
laterooms.com has some nice places in galway
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Parkheadcumsalford
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:41
COMMENT-BODY:Paul,
You revived a memory for me there, with the run-in to 86. I have this picture of driving round roundabouts hearing the scores come in on the car radio. We seemed to be running out matches to catch Hearts. But nothing will match the last 10 minutes in the rain at Love Street. That feeling when the second goal was scored. The first was good but the second (making the league ours for sure)was truly amazing.
I still feel that that Hearts team, depending almost entirely on effort and determination, ruined football in Scotland. All the others followed suit to compensate for a lack of skill. So, we had a generation of dross....
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: jhenderpecker22
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:46
COMMENT-BODY:I just put a tenner on Celtic having seen that the huns have so many away games. I fancy them to drop 3 points but then we have to, simply have to, stuff them at Parkhead. Please please please.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:48
COMMENT-BODY:gweedore,mcgrory,
My problem is the it seems to me the Strachan issue is the only opinion yoiu have, you keep trying to ram the same bloody opinion down everyones throat.
gonnae get an opinion about somethying else and share it with us. Try something positive and surprise us.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gweedorebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:53
COMMENT-BODY:canamalar
Well i can't be arsed talking about music, vending machines or the best place to buy a flat headed screw driver.
This is a celtic site the last time i looked
The strachan debate and the need to win the league is the issue or sorry is getting nicer pies or sharing pink floyd tracks what we are about.
Do you go to the games yes or no?
If so tell me honestly is this not the issue everyone is talking about.
Walking out of ibrox last week it certainly was.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:54
COMMENT-BODY:********** Timeline 4 April 1979 **********
On this day Celtic travelled to Myrrh Park for a midweek match against the relegation-bound Mothers (ah, those were indeed the days!)
The teams lined up as follows:-
Mothers:-
Rennie, McLeod, Wark, Carberry, Dempsey, Stevens;
Smith, Pettigrew, Clinging, Irvine, Donnelly (Larnach).
Beloved:-
Bonner, McGrain, MacLeod, Aitken, Edvaldsson, Conroy;
Provan, Lennox, Davidson, Burns, Doyle.
Att - 8,744 (this did not include WG who fell oot wi his parents and had nae dosh to go !!!)
I've been talking throughout this week with Ian Clinging who remembers the match well and not just because he opened the scoring for the mothers in the 20th minute.
0-1 Clinging (20)
WG : What was your goal like Ian ?
IC : It was a speculative attempt but I managed to curl it in from the edge of the box. I'm surprised it put us in front. I seem to remember we were chasing the game most of the night. Celtic always seemed to be a goal in front. I thought Latchford was in goal rather than Bonner.
1-1 McGrain (23)
WG: A rare one from Danny !
IC: Aye, I almost cleared it, but my attempted clearance hit the bar and the ball went in the net
2-1 Doyle (32)
IC: I remember Celtic always being ahead
3-1 Davidson
IC: I don't remember Vic playing
WG: He had just returned to Celtic four days earlier from Blackpool.
IC: Vic was a good, skilful player but was a bit slender. I remember him from his time at Motherwell.
WG: He's over in the States now
IC: Aye, Vic's had a good life from football
3-1 HT
3-2 Stevens
4-2 Lennox pen
WG: Both teams scored in the 79th minute
IC: Aye, the Stevens in question was Gregor
WG: Oh dear
IC: We scored then Celtic went up the park and got a penalty right away. I think the ref was Eddie sumbdy.....?
4-3 Larnach (85)
WG: I remember an absolutely frantic end to the game listening to the commentary on the radio
IC: You're right. We were pressing Celtic heavy as the game entered the last minute. Willie Irvine shot and the Celtic goalkeeper fluffed the ball and it dropped on the goalline. I'm honest enough to admit I was nearest the ball and it did not cross the line but the referee awarded the goal. When the goal was given I kicked the ball into the back of the net in celebration. However the Celtic players were furious and made the ref consult the linesman who admitted the ball had not crossed the line. What decision do you think was given ?
WG: A drop ball
IC: Correct but where on the pitch ?
WG: The six-yard line ?
IC: You're right in a sense. It was at the juncture of the six-yard vertical and the by-line.
WG: Obviously Celtic held out.
IC: They simply surrendered a corner at the drop and saw out time.
WG: Bedlam
IC: Yes, I'll never forget that game
FT 4-3 ,
WG: If the goal had stood the most dramatic game ever might not have happened
IC: More than that. A couple of weeks later we played Rangers at Fir Park and beat them 2-0. That meant they had to get something at Parkhead. Even though we were relegated we still beat them.
WG: Who was your most difficult opponent in your career (Ian played for Motherwell (1976-83), Kilmarnock and South China)
IC: Danny McGrain, a world class defender
WG: You've answered my next question so the following one is, name the best player you played alongside.
IC; Without being disrespectful to my many friends and team-mates I would say Joe Wark.
WG: A model of consistency for Motherwell.
IC: However I did play alongside George Best who guested for Motherwell on an Irish tour. It came about through some link between Jock Wallace, George and Bill McMurdo.
WG: Hmm. Thoughts on David Hay as manager
IC: A really nice fellow, quiet, rarely a cross word. He picked the team and allowed his side to play football. There weren't many tacticians around back then, just motivators really.
WG: Who will win the league this year ?
IC: I really don't know but away games will be a real factor especially the matches at Fir Park.
WG: How do you think Celtic are treated by the media ?
IC: I'd say that the known Celtic fans in the media, for example Hugh Keevins, remain critical of Celtic but the Rangers types are less so of Rangers. a lot of the Rangers types are still on the payroll at Ibrox and need to watch what they say, they can't be too critical of their employer. However you need to support a wee team to see how much you can be ignored.
WG: Do you still follow Motherwell ?
IC: I haven't been since 2003.
WG: Are you a member of the former players club ?
IC: Yes, it's one of the oldest ones. It's been going since the 1980s and is run by Dave Whiteford.
WG: Did you ever meet Phil, God rest him ?
IC: Yes but I didn't know him well. He was a quiet, unassuming guy.
WG: Ian, thanks a lot
IC: Welcome, any time.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tighnabruaich67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:58
COMMENT-BODY:gweedorebhoy
All the super negative posters on hear love to bleat about how they are entitled to their opinion, while everyone who dares to have a positive view is accused of calling them huns and trying to drive them out.
Just because some posters try to have a positive outlook and do not try to talk the club down in every post does not make them "happy clappers" or apologists"
It makes them "supporters"
Maybe instead of the manager, the chief exec, the chairman,the board,the groundsman, tea boy,the boot cleaner and anyone else you want sacked, it should be some of the so called fans who should be sacked as they have undoubtedly under performed this year.
T67
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:59
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: canamalar
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 16:59
COMMENT-BODY:gweedore
every weekend home game if available, work away.
No it was not all we could talk about, we talked about the cheating officials. We thought celtic was robbed and thats that, the manigerial position was not discussed as its the wrong time of the season.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:01
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA,
I am getting a little concerned here and fail to see how this line of questioning can improve my spelling in any way ;-) but as I´m intrigued I´ll stick with your program.
However the answer to your question might leave me open to ridicule. Not that that has ever concerned you before about my dear spelling checker. :-) so here goes
I am not trying to be obtuse in anyway its just that some weeks I sport a George Michael shadow but often leave it until its a Jim Morrison and then eventually a ZZ top. When in reflective mood I strip it down to a Michael Stipe goatee but I have never had a moustache of any description although I have to admit to being very tempted to sport an Adolf Hitler square inch for a few days just to see the reaction. Paul Hartley please take note. Any advantage etc.
If Celtic win the SPL I´ll sport a Burl Ives along with the cowboy hat and leather choker. ;-)
I´m 44 my next birthday. NAFOS´s BIGGER as in older but not in thorax cousin
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:03
COMMENT-BODY:Madra Rua, ardri1014 and Gweedorebhoy
Thanks for the advice.
I'll follow up.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gweedorebhoy
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:04
COMMENT-BODY:tighnabruaich67
How do you know how people have supported or not supported the team?
Many guys spend hard earned cash and time away from loved ones following our great club and sing until they are sore.
Remember that the next time you make such stupid sweeping statements.
People can debate without being chased away by the usual suspects to whom everyone is a hun who does not agree with them.
Paul has done a wonderful job creating a forum for debate.
People should not be chased away and many have and surprise surprise most or if not all of them have been called a hun or a follow follow interloper. Can you deny that?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:04
COMMENT-BODY:Paul, according to Chewin the Fat, surely it's 'gonnae', not 'gon'nay' :)
Evening Times has some nice photos of Neil Lennon at Lennoxtown, and a wee video of training.
In hoping for Samaras to start, I'd forgotten that Scott McDonald begins a 3-game suspension after his next game. I guess he may play at some stage tomorrow?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: passandmove
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:12
COMMENT-BODY:Canamalar 16.48 & 16.59
If you think that we will lose the league through the efforts of cheating officials you really are deluding yourself.
Gweedore and McGrory are not ramming their views down anyone's throat. They are hacked off with the team's performances like many of us and they are only expressing this in an eloquent manner imo.
Here's hoping for a miracle.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:12
COMMENT-BODY:Bhoys,
I have to say that this constant referring to the pessimists as huns or similar is very harsh to the point of being obscene.
As you know (hopefully) I am anything but a pessimist, I am still backing us for the league - i mentioned earlier this week that I backed us 9/2 to win - but to refer to a one of our fellow bhoys as "keith jackson" is a bit OTT.
That is a particularly nasty epithet.
I tend to take most posters on here as genuine bona fide Celtic supporters (there are obvious exceptions) and regardless of the fact I completely disagree with their viewpoint, I will never resort to this unsubstantiated ridicule.
I personally know several Shareholder/Season Ticket Holders who attend almost every game home and away and they have wanted WGS OUT from day one. They didn't like his appointment then or now and have wanted him put aside, then, now and all times in between.
This does NOT make them huns. They are anything but.
The fact they have not and will not back the manager I find anathema to me personally.
But that is their opinion and they are entitled to it.
Part of what I found encouraging and appealing on this particular Celtic website was the varied and diverse opinions held by many posters. That was what partly attracted me to log on almost daily.
It now appears to me that many posters are not allowing these people to have their say and in fact are driving them away, thus depriving the site of good debate.
Our support has always been hard-core, but we have always questioned what we don't agree with. I believe this to be a central tenet of our faith as Celtic supporters.
By all means disagree and tell these other fans that, but don't hound them out as huns as that, to me, is debasing both to you and the other poster.
WE ARE BETTER THAN THAT!
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulster-Celt
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:14
COMMENT-BODY:when we win this league it will be the best feeling since 1998
happyshaftercsc
Ulster-Celt
celtic-first
barley cove self catering cottages in mizen head west cork - remote and beautiful
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tighnabruaich67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:16
COMMENT-BODY:Gweedorbhoy
I agree many guys spend hard earned cash and sing until they are sore, are these the same guys that come on here day after day and undermine the club better than the media ever could?
I think not!
There is a section of posters on here who never have a positive thing to say and seem to delight in every bad result so they can get on here and continue with the same old drivel.
When we sack the manager, will we sack the new man if we don't win the league next year? and another after that!
T67
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:28
COMMENT-BODY:DBBIA,
I can confirm that Awe-Naw is in fact NAFOS' Older cousin and NAFOS is Awe-Naw's Bigger cousin.
I, however, am younger than both and fit in-between them in the bigger stakes. I am definitley better looking than them though!
But that's because I'm merely a cousin-in-law, not true family!!
WG,
Re your Q and A with Ian Clinging. Do you work with Ian?
I used to work with Ian many years ago now and got on well with him. He was still a good footballer in his late 30's/early 40's.
He always seemed to talk a lot of sense about football.
He was not at all bitter about his broken leg which more or less led to his demise as a major player in Scottish football.
Pass on my regards next time you see him and ask him why he hasn't been to the WHSFP's quiz night the last couple of years - my team won it last year and had to put up with jibes that we only won it coz Ian's team were not there.
Cheers
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ExPort Tim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:31
COMMENT-BODY:Ok, Here goes,
Paul67, first off, Fantastic site, browse every day, most evenings, and after every game, Never thought I'd find a site where there is music discussed, holiday arrangements made, european vistors welcomed and tickets sourced for these visitors, books discussed ( lost a few hours sleep catching up on some of these titles )Ragners supporters ( Ed )that actually talk sense.
But at the crux of all of these things
CELTIC FOOTBALL CLUB
Gweedorebhoy ( sorry if this is singling out, but your comments today are the ones making me rant )
The post that got me going, sack Peter lawell ???
For the love of all thats holy, have you lost your mind ? do you want the return of Allan MacDonald ? a nice guy, couldn't keep out of the papers, Ian McLeod, 5 a side jersey ( say no more )
Jock Brown ???
or are you actually Mister Cassidy ??????
SSM is THE best thing to happen at Celtic since Sir Jock, or Fergus, without his business accumen ( sic ) intelligence, ability, and love of the club, you wouldn't be feeling dissapointed this season, why ??
Because we would be sitting watching them probably heading towards 4 maybe 5 in a row, ok, on Gordon Strachan, ( also Peter Lawell )as with every manager in the game, not everyone will ever agree on wether they are a good bad or indifferent manager, but please stand back and look at the record, 2 full seasons in charge, a double secured in each of those seasons, last 16 in the last 3 seasons, still in with a chance of the title this season ( Faith ) yes, you are entitled to your opinion, However, and yes, I'm getting to my point's here,
Walking out of ibrox last week, everyone was talking about getting rid od Strachan ?
Wrong !!!
I along with the 5 guys I sat with, did not at any point say this, I heard a few around me post match grumble about it, but FAR from "everyone" Please, by all means have your opinion, and yes, express it, also free from being accused of being a hun or a mineshafter, but please pay me the privelige of not including me, or in my opinion, the majority of Celtic supporters in stating that we share that opinion.
Yours in Celtic
Hail Hail, heres to 3 in a row !
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:33
COMMENT-BODY:T67
I´m with you on this. I have no time for imposters. Whether they are virtual or physical it does not matter. They undermine the level of debate and express the same monotonous opinion since day one. I´m not interested in hearing what somebody does not like over and over amd over again. Its worse than kindergarten. I am not interested in hearing why,who or what they dont like over and over and over again. The level of debate on this board demands more. Those that cant manage to improve the debate by making reasonable suggestions but just cry like a baby deserve all they get. Those that come on demanding Jose Mourinhio, Lippi, extra terrestials etc. deserve all the ridicule they can get. Its up there with Ronaldo coming to Ibrox.
Hail HAil
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:40
COMMENT-BODY:Ardoch, ‘That was the team that was’, it must be a sign.
Gweedore, we had our business plan and stuck to it. Last May I suggested that Rangers were going to gamble big this year, and as a result, our chances of winning the league were 50/50.
The question is valid; if Rangers gamble big should Celtic change their plan and follow them?
This is a hugely difficult question with an interesting recent example from 1998 when Rangers spent £35m and won the next two leagues.
If the result is last 16 of the CL and losing the league to Rangers it will feel like we should have followed them, just as it did for so many in the summer of 1998, but the question is more complex. After that 1998 spend Rangers went into meltdown.
My gut feel on these things is that Celtic should prepare their budget and not be influenced by the bipolar spending patterns of Rangers.
This, of course, is subjective, and open to debate, but no one could say for sure that following the spending pattern of Rangers will lead to more long term success, or short term success for that matter.
Parkheadcumsalford, agree. The first goal only brought a nervy moment, it was the second we could celebrate properly.
Bloke109, it took me ages to spell that one.
ExPort Tim, thanks.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: mcgrory-for-arsenal
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:44
COMMENT-BODY:I remember many, including Billy McNeil and charlie Nicholas, saying that Barnes shouldnt be sacked because we needed continuity and ''what if we didnt win the league next year with a new manager..''
Barnes was sacked mid-season
the following season, His successor did not too badly.
keeping strachan; is the weak option.
that Barnes season was, domestically, better than this season under strach.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:46
COMMENT-BODY:Ex Port Tim,
I find your post in retort to Gweedorebhoy just as unsubstantiated.
i.e Rangers winning the last 5 years without PL is utter nonsense in my book.
I had a discussion on here with Kojo, Mabel or collie about performance related assessment of our employees not so long ago last year in the autumn and they with their right wing tendencies agreed but with the proviso lets wait and see.
If Rangers win the qaudruple this year having been in the situation they were in last summer compared to us... then heads must roll. Somebody who does not practice what he preaches has no honour. PL leaving at the same time as Bobo Balde would be an ironic twist of fate that wouldn´t be lost in the annals of history we are ran as a PLC aren´t we ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:48
COMMENT-BODY:Wee Ronnie Ronaldo is only 32 this year, so he wont be coming to the badger dome for another 6 years, in a desperate, last ditch attempt to stop Celtic winning 10 in a row; after the plucky cashstrapped southsiders fail to tempt Marc Bridge- Wilkinson away from European champions Carlisle Utd
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:52
COMMENT-BODY:mcgrory
If that Barnes season was, domestically, better than this season, then surely you have to accept that GS' track record over the last two years grants him time to sort it out. I know you're not saying that at least the Barnes team won a trophy! I agree the home cup defeats have been pretty pathetic, but surely the real reason Barnes was sacked was that he lost the dressing room that night. There is no tangible evidence to show that presently, indeed it can be scoffed at with the return of Neil Lennon.
The weak option, imo, is to fire someone as soon as we have a set of poor results. If this were the case everywhere, surely your preferred option Keane would not have survived the season. The hard option is to ride the storm when, despite your belief that some are tilting at windmills, there could be light at the end of the season.
Gonnae stop there, as I have murdered too many metaphors.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:53
COMMENT-BODY:Paul67,
Does this, I would imagine highly technical and detailed business plan that Celtic plc were manfully sticking buy and not blinking an eye like all top class poker players mention at all the number of full backs on books related to real chances of success scenario ??
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ExPort Tim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:57
COMMENT-BODY:Awe Naw,
Difference is, I state my opinion, and mine only,
I disagree with Gweedorebhoy, you as well, Is this not the point of discussion ??
Gweedore ( amongst others ) continually state that "everyone" or the "majority" want rid of the manager,
I simply state that certainly not "everyone" does, well I don't, so that rules out everyone,
And Majority, well I plain old don't agree, you are right, I can't substantiate it, just don't agree with it.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:58
COMMENT-BODY:TTT,
Rumposuction and those continuous poisonous gases from the Craig has contributed to your false assessment. ;-)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 17:59
COMMENT-BODY:When CRSutton and Thommo were at CP they gave the impression that they liked a good moan; since they left they've not uttered a word of criticism of their treatment by GS or indeed anyone at the Club. Given our current relationship with the Press if there had been any grumblings I'm sure we'd have heard them.
Funny, that.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:02
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: itzallova
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:03
COMMENT-BODY:".....deserve all the ridicule they get"
and there in a nut shell you have whats wrong with this blog,
celtic supporters openly encouraging the ridicule of other celtic supporters, simply because they have another view,
name calling - well out of order - remember the guy who coined the phrase "green hun" - thats when things go downhill, very quickly.
regardless of what your opinion is, you should be entitled to express it on here, without fear of being ridiculed by someone who doesn't like it, and wants you off the blog,
its a form of cyber bullying imo,
anyway, that aside, its been good on here today, off to the pub now, Hail Hail.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:06
COMMENT-BODY:EX Port Tim,
fair enough but we have a duty not to let our personal feelings cloud our judgement and as I said before its innane and utterly boring to hear those feelings again and again and again without some kind of cerebral input that wasn´t born in the land of make believe.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:09
COMMENT-BODY:run rabbit run rabbit run rabitt hun run run
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: bigjie
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:10
COMMENT-BODY:all this energy being used to criticise each other ...........just like being at a home game.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ExPort Tim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:11
COMMENT-BODY:Awe_Naw,
in your last post you reference a discussion on performance related assessment of our employees, I'm wondering, who would determine these results ?
Would it be based on, win the league - Good performance
Lose the league - sacked, next in line please ?
I'm honestly interested as to who would carry out this assessment,as I personally undergo this type of assessment on an annual basis ( with quarterly review ) and the results can vary widely, depending on who does the assessing, I've had great results after what I felt was a poor year, and also rotten ratings after a year I was very satisfied with my own performance.
Just honestly intruiged as to who you think could do it ?
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:12
COMMENT-BODY:Token -
yes and no, we'rte in the same building for sure.
we spent a long time talking about King Kenny but it wasn't really pertinent to 78-79 or tomorrow's opponents.
Will pass on your regards, ta for commenting on the interview. I thought it was a wee bit of a different take on things.
WG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:12
COMMENT-BODY:My dear friend, Tighna
If you do not mind a spot of advice,pal...
Everyone who posts on here,with one exception, is a Celtic Fan.
The reason that some of these guys, complain and belly ache ,whenever Celtic lose one... is the result of frustration and disappointment.
This type of response, to a defeat of their heroes,is a very natural reaction... for after all.... is that not what being a fan is all about?
A Fan, is a person who lives and breathes for his chosen team.
Everytime he sees a rival, put one over,on his guys... he bristles with annoyance and anger.
Therefore, what is a better place than this haven of Celtica,to vent his disgruntlement and dis-satisfaction against the performances of certain members of his Team...up to, and including the Team Manager?
This is a Celtic Fan's Forum...so what could be a better venue for voicing his vexation?
There is truth in that old canard...after all......
Which one?
MISERY LOVES COMPANY!
No, my friend, there is no need to stifle these howls of complaint and railings.
This behaviour of peevishness will act as a catharsis, that will help to salve, the let-down and disappointment of defeat.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:21
COMMENT-BODY:Export Tim,
Naturally the board will do this. The main shareholders. I am a shareholder but unfortunately I can only get my questions answered once a year at the AGM.
I´m looking forward to hearing what business master stroke allowed us to start this season with two fit full backs 7 centre backs and 7 strikers. Replace Graveson, Lennon and Miller. Watch Rangers spend 10m. Sell KM for 2.25 and tell us that it was 3m if Jewell is accurate and still maintain with a straight face that he delivered on his "maintain and improve the qaulity of the sqaud" statement.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bloke109
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:30
COMMENT-BODY:John McCririck appears on Scotland Today to witter on about betting in the Grand National and Scottish football, ending it with 'mon the Rangers' and 'up the Gers'. McCririck a Rangers fan. What are the odds?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: b2k
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:32
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: b2k
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:32
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo oh wise one there are guys near where I sit and I bet near where you sit who throughout a game savage players for every mistake and other than cheering a goal rarely have anything positive to say. In my memory this has applied for every manager and players as thay have come and gone over the year. Even the great MoN was slagged by my locals. By guys who I would guess loved Celtic or professed to, every bit as much as me.
Now you say that all the posters even the negative ones are Celtic supporters.
I'm not sure.I think we all love Celtic but to 'support' means something more than that. Its more the unconditional love you give to family. I don't think that Celtic as a teams gain 'support' from the howls and groans that greet a player's mistake. I think that 'supports' the other team and you hear often enough other team managers talking about holding off Celtic at CP until the fans turn on the team. That the strength of such support. HH and here's to 3 in a row
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: CelticFCNumeroUno
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:33
COMMENT-BODY:Certainly looks like one.
Too easy/childish?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ExPort Tim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:38
COMMENT-BODY:Awe_Naw,
I too am a shareholder, season ticket holder, and Celtic supporter,
I made a point, defended my point, asked a question, then in your following 2 posts, called my posts inane, never never land, then you came up with a very novel way of calling me a hun in a nursery rhyme, Ergo, I must be a hun !.
How do Scotland yard cope when you're at the game ?
ok, 2 fit Full backs at the start of the season ??
JJPD, Wilson, Naylor, Caddis, Conroy, my arith must be hunnish, cos that adds up to more than 2
7 Centre backs ?, ok, so we are not allowed cover ??slagged off for too few full backs, but too many centre backs ? yeah, genius
replace Gravesen ?, aye, you win, we don't have a replacement headless chicken, Lennon, you are actually correct ( my opinion ) on that one
OK, so we believe the tabloids, or Paul Jewell on KM's fee, in fact, who from Celtic actually stated what we got for him ?? aha, it must have been that board member Keevins ??
Improve, ok, Brown, Hinkel, Samaras, Donati, Mizuno, Hutchison.
Hope you don't spot my hunnery showing,
Must add
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tighnabruaich67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:38
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo
I have not accused anyone of not being a Celtic fan.
My problem is with the manner of their support.
We all suffer the same frustrations, these frustrations are not exclusive to a select few. The difference is some people can come on here and have a go at the club and the team when it is merited, while others continually go on and on with their negative posts day after day with not a positive post in sight.
As I have said before, I understand that everyone has a right to their opinion but by the same token everyone else does not have to agree with it and certainly does not have to stand by and keep quiet while they repeat the same thing day after day.
I don't have your vocabulary and may not come across as you do, I am an ordinary Celtic fan who is fed up of the club being slated daily by our own.
T67
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Hiro_Nakamura
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:40
COMMENT-BODY:If Celtic surrender the league, but WGS gets to keep his job, under what circumstances would he lose it?
If Celtic lose the league, and he stays, he'll want reasonable/big money to improve the team in the summer, because Rankers will spend from an improved financial position.
If Gordon spends in the summer, there is no guarantee he'll sign players who will make a difference, as his previous performance is best described as a mixed bag.
So we could easily be looking at 2 in a row for them, and possibly a re-run of the nineties "in a row". Might even be the start of a generation of domination again. Bad enough the first time. Couldn't bare it again.
Sorry, time for Gordon to go. I've seen too many clueless performances, tactics, selections substitutions and assessments in the last 3 seasons. The loss at ICT was as bad as Barnes' Scottish Cup loss.
Time for a new man with fresh impetus.
Mark Hughes please, ideal world.
Tony Mowbray, real world.
Apologies to anyone who prefers the "Celtic View" perspective.
And I'm certainly no Hun or DR reporter.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:43
COMMENT-BODY:It's funny what memories stay with you. In '86 I was just a lad but I'm sure if you looked in the Mitchell Library you will find a Daily Record back page (boo hiss!) to the effect of 'McLean and Ferguson concede title to Hearts but Hay fights on'. I vividly remember that we were 4th in the table at the time and the title looked a thousand miles away, if not a million.
Today I think we have no better than a 10% probability of winning the title this season. For two reasons - the first being the long odds on us winning all 8 games.
The second is related to a hackneyed phrase - "A woman has to be twice as good as a man to be considered half as competent". Or as MON would have put it - "We will have to finish miles ahead of them to win this league". I do not think we should underestimate the cumulative effect of front-loading of fixtures, hun impunity etc. and I don't think anyone on this forum does.
If we are to win the league - and I don't think this can be ruled out yet as a possiblity - it will more than likely come down to the last day, in which case I would fully expect one of the following scenarios:
a) Dunfermline style lie down performance
or
b) An Andy Davis-esque penalty award
to see them over the line. These type of things seem to come to the fore when the league race is close (02/03 - world record sending offs and pens, 04/05 Andy Davis). Seasons when we have run away with the title have passed by with a more mundane run of the mill MIB and media bias.
I have my doubts about Strachan. McManus and Caldwell seem to be almost sacroscant in his eyes similar to Captain Squarebaw at Ibrox. Also bringing Sno out of deep freeze to replace Robson after our new signing scored 2 on his first 3 games. However there has never been a manager we have agreed with 100%. MON had is favourites too who let him down badly (and us) on the run-in of '05. However MON rightly remains a legend.
As for his dealings with the press - just imagine how you would feel faced with those slimebags every other day? His contempt for the press is plus in my book. OK he could be a bit smarter about it, but MON was fairly mild mannered guy and the press still portrayed him as a loony at various times ("We were magnificent", Lennon on the pitch at Ibrox").
Overall I think WGS probably deserves a chance to show that he can learn from this season and put the Orcs to the sword. There is no evidence to suggest that there is an outstanding candidate out there ready to step in. Keane should not be using Celtic to cut his teeth. McGhee's record in England is unremarkable.
I do not agree that "Celtic-mindedness" plays much of a part. I seem to remember a lot of Celtic fans felt Tommy Burns was "too emotionally involved" in '97 and unable to take rational and calculated decisions. Ability and commitment is what counts and you don't have to be "Celtic-minded" to offer commitment. I suspect many are looking at the hun "revival" under Wattie and putting 2 and 2 together to get 5. Wattie understands the Rangers "traditions" ergo he also understands he can push every envelope in the post office and the media, SPL etc. will turn a blind eye. A Celtic-minded manager knows the converse is true at our club.
I am as apalled as anyone else that we are on the verge of losing the title to a load of mediocre cheats with a financial advantage that is almost unprecedented in our history.
At times I am swayed by those calling for Stachan's head but the most convincing argument I have read is that we should show our support for the team.
Having said that, bad results in the remaining Old Firm games (i.e. 2 points or less) would change my opinion on whether Mr Strachan should stay on next season... however for now we should be behind him. We are more than capable of beating them twice at Paradise. However I fear the title might just be an MIB too far.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tighnabruaich67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:51
COMMENT-BODY:b2k
The guys around you sound like the fans in my area.
I sit in 405 and the same guys that slate the manager and players for every mistake no matter how small were doing the same thing when our last manager was still in the job.
These sort of guys usually single a player out for special attention and when they have shot the players confidence completely and he is out of the team they move on to their next target.
I have no time for these people and this is not what I see supporting Celtic as being about.
T67
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:51
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear, friend... b2k @18.32
As an aside... Do you really think that I am a Wise One... or are you just being, sarcastic?
If you are being sarcastic...then ...I guess that says a heckava lot more about you than it does of me!
If you are being Genuine...
Then thanks,guy..you are a fine judge of character!
That being said...
I do not believe that you have understood much of what I offered in in my advice to Tighna...
Foist of all.
The fact that the fans that you seem to condemn... unnecessarily...in my opinion...
Are all sitting with you ...all watching the same game...and rooting for...the Celtic...proves to me that you are all Celtic fans.
As I said...that is what being a fan is all about... a Fan can complain and rant and rave as much as he desires...
Why ?
Because he is a Fan...
That's why.
It does not make him any less of a staunch and faithful fan... than some other fan who chooses to suffer in silence, at what is taking place on the field...and is therefore the cause in the foist place, of the complaining fans frustration.
It is a simililar a case in that you can complain against yer Mammy and Daddy if they do something that displeases yer good self...
But..
Woe betide anyone else, who says one thing out of place against yer dear Parents!
Fur they are yer Mammy and Daddy and ye love them.. even if sometimes... ye get a wee bit mad with them!
Capice?
Kojo
yer pal..who likes tae think ye wur no bein' Sarcastic!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: b2k
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:52
COMMENT-BODY:Good stuff Tony B. I'm used to your internal pronouncments so its goodto see you've opened up to the world
HH
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:53
COMMENT-BODY:trust in dreams, for in them is hidden the gate to eternity
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 18:54
COMMENT-BODY:I prefer to be a dreamer among the humblest, with visions to be realized, than lord among those without dreams and desires
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: b2k
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:01
COMMENT-BODY:T67 Exactly. With you all the way.
Kojo I'm not being sarcastic I like your rythm and your thoughts but sometimes disagree.
The guys sitting next to me are not 'rooting' for Celtic they are fans who thinnk it fine to abuse our players and managers and rarely have a good word to say at all.
If I still had a mammy and daddy I would not complain and criticise them in front of strangers. THeres the difference.
I talked of supporters you talk of fans. Maybe we're both right supporters shouls support fnas can be fanatical and jsut vent thier own feeling regardless of how it impacts on the team. Me I'm with T67 A supporter and so maybe not a fan.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:06
COMMENT-BODY:Radio 4 news has just reported that someone called Prince Philip is being treated in hospital for a chest infection and has cancelled his engagements for the weekend.
I have dropped them a line informing them that I have (after a severe cold) developed bronchitis and that I may not be able to drive to the game.
I have asked them to include it on the 8pm bulletin.
(H)ail (H)ail
Estadio
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:07
COMMENT-BODY:who'd be free from doubt?
ain't that what faith is all about?
eight games left!
keep the faith!
our collective will...
...will you join us?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:15
COMMENT-BODY:b2k - Thanks I should've branched out sooner than now, but here I am and reafy for three in a row ;0)
At risk of being labelled a mad hippy I do feel that the negative moaners or however one chooses to label them help add to that almost tangible negative energy surrounding the club that is fuelled by Rangers Propaganda inc.
That is not to say I always disagree but when I hear the likes of lardbucket Traynor on his pishy radio programme lording it over "wee ginger" I can't help think "get it right up him wee ginger!"
Mind you, no doubt wee ginger would be WGS's Apache moniker. SCALP EM!
Speculating on who is going to take over from WGS is counter productive at this stage and the huns and their minions in the media will be loving that kind of talk.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TerryO'Neill
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:29
COMMENT-BODY:Bloke 109
"John McCririck appears on Scotland Today to witter on about betting in the Grand National and Scottish football, ending it with 'mon the Rangers' and 'up the Gers'. McCririck a Rangers fan. What are the odds?"
Odds ? Ad sat pretty low,
ae looks like wan.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Dennis 47
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:30
COMMENT-BODY:If Rangers do win the league, I will,reluctantly, accept it.
But I cannot believe that they "deserve " it.
The statistics on refereeing partiality and SFA chicanery are just too compelling.
They don't care if they take the league through cheating, but I do, and we should never allow ourselves to forget how they obtain their "victories".
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:31
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear,dear friend B2k
I am pleased that you were being genuine in making use of that salutation.
Time to clear up any misunderstandings regarding my frequent use of the woid..."Fan" as my chosen description for an avid,enthusiastic,devoted, passonate, and Absolutely BIASED... follower of a Team...and the absence of any reference in that same respect, by me, of the woid..."Supporter".
The word "Fan" is the diminutive of the proper woid...FANATIC.
The meaning of that particular woid is well known, and requires no explanation of its meaning, from me.
Therefore, the behaviour of a Fan is not subject to logic or rationale.
A Fan does not live up to the expectations that one would expect from such as, a common or garden ...SUPPORTER...~~
For he is after all...in being a Fan.... not subject to the laws of decorum and respectablity...
He is...
A FANATIC...for goodness sake!
Whadya Expect?
Therefore, never dare to understand his behaviour.
It is way beyond human Ken!
It may be possible that you may be not a "Fan", after all?...
You may, fall into the category of being a mere "Supporter"
In that case it is perfectly understandable that you will never be able to totally connect with the OVER POWERING FEELINGS, that play havoc, on the emotions of a "FAN"
Kojo.
yer pal....who likes ye...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:43
COMMENT-BODY:I`m going to BB`s the morra for about 1130
i have a spare ticket if anyone wants it
no charge ...just a good home wanted
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Zbyszek
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:47
COMMENT-BODY:WGS
If you are around.
I know you are a fan of Van Buyten transfer. From the German sites I assume that the player will be sold in summer transfer window. They say it's Aston Villa first interested in him and Celtic second. Yesterday Martin O'Neill was a guest at Allianz Arena. He is looking for Olof Mellberg replacement. As you probably know, Mellberg has signed a contract with Juve. He will be out from Villa in summer.
Yesterday, I saw you have sold Boruc. If you don't mind, can you tell me where? Why you are doing it to him :)
Why Gregory Coupet?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:48
COMMENT-BODY:Oh B2K - my message of 16:50 hrs today which may or may not have rached you concerning "4 games for tomorrow in the predictor" was merely a spur of the moment joke in poor taste under the duress of LC. I have had a crisis of conscience and fully expect GC to have suffered a coronary on Monday morning.
Also, M showed me the latest laptop loyal induction software constructed to indictrinate our children in the fourth estate's ongoing campaign of dark influence. This is a new and worrying development. Well, maybe not new.
We need a Luke Chomsky or Noam Skywalker figure to rise up and fight this abomination.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: b2k
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 19:51
COMMENT-BODY:Ah Kojo, you using the word 'mere' with 'supporter' means we still do not agree.
Lets think of the wonderful film Godfather, and you can be Don Corleone if you like. (Don Kojo has an air to it come to think of it)
There was family with all sorts of different characters from the loud and brash to the quiet but strong. I reckon our fanaatics are the Sonny's and Sals of that movie. They say and act as if they support the family but what they do often damages it. Fortunately these fans have more studied comrades who don't allow their passion to cloud their views> in film the family supporter was 'Michael'.He understood theneedfor loyalty (excuse the term) and never speaking out openly against the family Thats what I call 'support' and those that do it are not 'mere supporters' they carry the rest.
Its good that even in the Godfater it was the Micks that counted for most.
HH
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tighnabruaich67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:00
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo
Are you suggesting in your own long winded way that B2k as a supporter is somehow inferior to the moaners you defend?
You statement
"In that case it is perfectly understandable that you will never be able to totally connect with the OVER POWERING FEELINGS, that play havoc, on the emotions of a "FAN"
is an insult and you appear to me to be saying his feelings for Celtic are not as strong as the feelings of the moaners.
Is that not just the same as people accusing the moaners of not being real fans.
I think double standards appear to be at work here.
T67
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:09
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear,dear friend B2k
I admit to committing the error of inserting the woid..."Mere"..it was unnecessary and besides...it was a wee bit chintzy.
I like your allegorical effort.
It contains more than its share of wisdom.
Bottom line...
You are a Supporter,pal...
Far from being a mere one.
Good for you.
I am of the "Fan" persuasion.
Good for me...
And it looks like neither the Twain shall meet.
Nice chatting.
Kojo.
yer pal... who says that all's well that ends.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: logger 'GG
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:12
COMMENT-BODY:Winning the league for me comes down to 2 simple questions.
1) Do you think we can win every game from here till season's end.
That's an easy YES
2) Do you think Rangers will lose games other than the ones at CP?
That for me is a YES
If aznyone else can answer YES to both of the above, welcome to the land of the
Faithfull through and through.
'GG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TerryO'Neill
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:21
COMMENT-BODY:I dont have a problem with guys on having a moan they can say whatever they like,bottom line is they care,they view it thru a different lens from me but so wit,they care.
Estadio liked what you had to say about dreams.
Mary Black said it well too
"There's no faith more innocent than blind faith,and thats all i've got.
So i'm scaling the walls of my dreams ready or not"
McGrory For Arsenal,Tignabruaich,just for you.
How To End an Argument.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:24
COMMENT-BODY:My dear,dear,dear friend... GG.
My answer to your foist question:
I dinnae Ken.
My answer to your second question:
I dinnae Ken.
Does that qualify me as a denizen of the Land of the Faithful... Thro'and Thro'?
I dinnae Ken.
Kojo.
yer pal... who disnae know much.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: tighnabruaich67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:31
COMMENT-BODY:TerryO'Neill
Thanks for that, point taken.
Ranting over for tonight.
T67
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: wishyghirl
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:32
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr
hi am winningemmell's wee sister can I have your spare ticket?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: rimtimtim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:32
COMMENT-BODY:40 years ago, Martin Luther King passed away. He had a dream and so do you Paul67. Of course it can be done, but the only way to do it, to paraphrase Lena Martell is
" One game at a time "
Motherwell are the steel men and have upset Celtic in the past. In the wake of "Dimanche noir" I was horrified to see in the ´wee red book´ that Celtic´s heaviest ever defeat had been against precisely Motherwell. Then I realised that it had been them who ended our twenty-five game winning run in the season after Seville.
However a little investigation into the first event puts things into perspective. The shocking scoreline, I was relieved to see, was only a few days after Celtic had triumphed in the 1937 Scottish Cup final at a time when football really was the talk of the working, rather than the chattering, classes. I quote John Cairney from his book "Heroes are Forever", the life and times of Jimmy McGrory
"On 30 April 1937, in a meaningless final league fixture of the season, at Fir Park, the great cup-winning side was demolished 8-0."
A week is a long time in football and a couple of seasons an eternity
but possibly Celtic's best ever performance under Gordon S. has been the 5-0 demolition of Motherwell at Celtic Park, with a very special hat trick from Stan Petrov and with Shaun Maloney on fire. Earlier this season Scott McDonald himself notched a hat trick against his old club, to the delight of the Parkhead crowd. So past history is encouraging and now we have to concentrate on the next 90 minutes AND FORGET ABOUT RANGERS. Remember, we have to face Motherwell twice and if we can't beat them twice then we don't deserve the league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: b2k
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:33
COMMENT-BODY:Tony B luckily I missed your comment about extra games in the predictor. Joking about something os important can only come from one whose interest in it is waining.But hang on in there Tony Just mind that there are still another ten games to predict so 30 point going abegging. You can still do it Tony - you can be a contender. KTF
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TerryO'Neill
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:33
COMMENT-BODY:tighnabruaich67 yir a good man an a good tim and on that positive am away oot,slainte.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: o1bhoy
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:38
COMMENT-BODY:Estadio...
If that guy {Phil} sends his CHAUFFEUR to drive you to the Match...
Get the BUS...
o1bhoy
MI3inarow
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: logger 'GG
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:39
COMMENT-BODY:Kojo
For over 50 years I have gone to Celtic games, confident of a victory, no matter the opposition.
I know it's not rational.
It's a genetic family fault, for which my mother must be blamed.
As far as your status is concerned, I would place you in purgatory, unless recent teachings have closed it.
You will still be welcomed to the banquet table with all the Didimuses, (or Didimi?) on the last day (of the season)
'GG in the Keys.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:44
COMMENT-BODY:Pfayr
I could take you up on the ticket - just trying to think of timescales 'cos I work from early doors.
Do you have contact numer?
send to ewingcourt9@sky.com
or if I've already missed it cool.
UMCG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Kojo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:45
COMMENT-BODY:Tighna
If you properly analyse the quotation, from me...to which you refer...
You will see that nowhere do I say or even intimate that a person who is not a Fan, is in my stated opinion... an inferior Celtic Supporter.
What I do state...categorically..is that if one is not a Fan, as explained in MY sense of the woid...then one can never possibly understand the over reaction to disappointment and defeat, that beats within the breast of a FANATIC.
There is no substance to your accusation that I have in the least, slighted my correspondents.
If,unfortunately, you wish to see my intentions, differently, then there is nothing that I can add to alleviate your umbrage.
Except...
You are wrong.
Kojo.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: ~Kevtic
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:48
COMMENT-BODY:blogger
With you all the way. If we win these 8 games we win the league. Simple as that.
As DBBIA pointed out we don't have a player like big Roy to see us through these matches.
But I hope Lennon can install that winning mentality for these 8 games.
As MLK once put it "I HAVE A DREAM".
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Bieniex
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:52
COMMENT-BODY:Bhoys
Thx for the advice earlier
will head into McMahons in Nice to see if I can catch it
hail hail or whatever it is in French
B
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:53
COMMENT-BODY:Export Tim,
I was actually responding to TTT´s post but generally to the CQN board. In no way in my next posts was I referring to your previous posts and I am surprised that you came to that deduction.
For the record;
With regards to me referring to inane I was only describing a phenomenon that I have seen on the CQN board far too regularly and always from the same posters .. banging the tub making their point all perfectly acceptable but I personally find it boring reading. The guaranteed same negative thing without anything positive to offer. I have to honestly say that with that singular remit its difficult for me to distinguish the imposters by those Celtic fans who just want the best for the club but can only contribute negatively.Even when politely urged to do so.I personally also admit that I dont find that Celtic minded in the least and that´s why I may appear reticent to those that advocate that it is their right to always be negative towards Celtic.Those posters I dont direct engage with. I love Celtic far too much just to let that go without any comment. I have since a long time not communicated to the contributions that I find offensive and I have not done so for weeks, except when I issued my apology. Yet I am still being scalded for it. BAD BHOY ME - I can live with it.
I do not in any way consider you to be one of those few posters and apologise unreservedly if thats what you think my attention was
The jibe I made at 18:09 was not aimed at you and again apologies if you thought so. You made the wrong assumption. The machinations of the blog as I dont think I had even read your previous post to mine by then as I was busy writing my jibe. If you thought that it was meant for you you were wrong btw.
I think your posts are excellent and a joy to read and a valuable contribution to my daily read. I enjoyed our discussion today and for me thats what this blog is all about. Positive intelligent debate .. not negative Orwellian catch phrases. Additionally I have called three posters on here huns or varitions of whom I consider to be imposters and have since apologised to one of them as it was proven that he wasn´t one.
I will stick by my guns for the other two until I see something that makes me think differently as I have already proven as ultimately I believe that I am protecting my first love against imposters. Whats wrong with that?
I think that over the years PL has done a marvelous job and I am very happy with him. I do believe that the club made a howler last summer. I think in this modern age of plc we are owed and deserve a full explanation and some reassuarances about the future and why we have slipped. This shouldn´t have been the case and lots of us predicted this last summer. I think the level of admiration is misplaced and does the club no good. No witchhunt is necessary and because I may agree with the assertions of one poster I might not agree with his way of solving the issue.
I hope I haven´t lost your virtual friendship in Celtic and look forward to continuing our civilised and friendly debate and your valid points.
Your friend in Celtic
Awe Naw
p.s DBBIA is going to have a lie down after reading the above. He´s my friendly spelling checker
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:54
COMMENT-BODY:WishyGhirl,
assuming you are serious about wanting aticket for the game tomorrow, you can have mine if you want, if Pfayr does not contcat you.
I say this coz you are in Wishy (my hometown) and I just live up the road in Carfin.
I will check back her about 9.30 and then again 10pm.
If you want the ticket, post and I shall get back to you and we can make arrangements to drop the ticket off tomorrow.
Cheers
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
PS - Pfayr, don't mean to steal your thunder here mate, just thought it might be easier due to me and WishyGhirl being locals.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:55
COMMENT-BODY:UMcG
my e mail`s donald ducked
call me 07711258286
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 20:59
COMMENT-BODY:thetokentim
just noticed wishyghirls earlier post...serves me right for reading the blog backwards
UMcG is needing a ticket also therefore both can be sorted
wishyghirl
see above sorry was reading posts latest backwards saw UmcG `s first
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WizardofOz
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:03
COMMENT-BODY:Evenin all.
Not been on lately, not had much to say that hasn't already been said.
Just really looking forward to getting back to the business of winning this league tomorrow.
Watched the Huns last night. I thought they were,yet again,no better than average and frankly were fortunate that Sporting were happy with a 0-0 scoreline.Only difference last night, they never got any lucky breaks or obviously friendly decisions from the MIB.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: johnnyquest
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:14
COMMENT-BODY:gweedorebhoy,15.37,you want PL sacked as well as GS? why?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Great Auk
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:16
COMMENT-BODY:test
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Great Auk
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:18
COMMENT-BODY:Thanks for the Celtic v Motherwell report from 1979. It was my first ever Celtic game. I went with my brother. A great memory.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:20
COMMENT-BODY:gweedorebhoy
i`ve just viewed your post of 1537
as you know i am not one of WGS`s fans but what has this to do with PL
we have constantly cited WGS `s bad tactic`s/fav players, selection of /media performances
again i ask what has this to do with PL?
Lenny on CTV stated he will be here for a few years ..hhmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WizardofOz
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:21
COMMENT-BODY:BTW, anyone who wants Peter Lawell removed from his position, really needs to gie up the drink.
The man has many suitors. He will never give up his position wiliingly. His love of Celtic is something that can never be questioned. In my opinion, he is a chairman in waiting.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:23
COMMENT-BODY:WofOz
either that or take it up ...there`s something missing
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Han Solo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:34
COMMENT-BODY:Terry-
cos he looks like wan..
Well spotted !
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: johnnyquest
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:36
COMMENT-BODY:Mr Solo,who are you talking to?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Tony Bananas
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:41
COMMENT-BODY:B2k - indeed my belief rather than my interest was on the wane. However, your kind words of encouragement have revitalised, reinvigorated and put fire in my belly, along with the malt whisky. I am ready to take up the fight once more.
I meandered on a journey of internet chatrooms filled with those who demanded a feast with my head on a platter. My enemies and their lickspittles taunted me with their prematurely triumphalist ditties. But your support has galvanised my belief. 10 games to predict, 30 games to be won. Cometh the hour.. ;0)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Han Solo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:43
COMMENT-BODY:Mr Quest-
Terry
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Han Solo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:51
COMMENT-BODY:Picked these up from the bottom of the page last Saturday night.
Looks like some had been laying there since September.......
Anybody want to claim theirs....?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:52
COMMENT-BODY:comment taken from Teamtalk.
Neil Lennon spells it out. Up there with Al Pacino, I think.
" "I don't believe in talismans. I believe in hard work and playing hard football at the right time.
"We have eight massive games left. We have to dig in and try to find a way to win each game and I will help as much I can.
"I will let the players know that it will mean a hell of a lot to a lot of people.
"This is a good club. I was away from it for a year and I will be telling the players that once you leave here everywhere else is downhill.
"You will not get a better opportunity in your whole career to make a real name for yourself and if you do well then you will be revered for the rest of your life."
Lennon does not believe that the challenge confronting the Hoops in insurmountable.
He added: "It's going to be very, very difficult because every game is a must-win game - including two home games against Rangers.
"It's a challenge but a great challenge for the players.
"To be champions we will have to go somewhere where not many teams have been before.
"We are relying on maybe somebody else doing us a favour along the way but that can happen.
"So we have to take the bull by the horns and play, good, professional football from here on in and hope that we get the breaks at the right time."
Lennon believes that Strachan will stay on at Celtic regardless of the outcome of the title race.
He said: "I wouldn't come here for eight weeks then go.
"I would imagine he will be here for the foreseeable future."
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: johnnyquest
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:53
COMMENT-BODY:Han,is that the same guy who terorises the nasal one?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: David
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 21:56
COMMENT-BODY:Celtic First
Two sites in Mayo that I would reccomend;
http://www.loughlannagh.ie/
http://www.breaffyhouseresort.com/lspa2/www/index.html
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Thom The Thim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:09
COMMENT-BODY:If our Celtic supporting fathers and grandfathers had the same hyper critical attitude that appears to be gaining hold on today's support, then there would have been no Celtic to whine and whinge over.
Sometimes we have to take the highs and lows and get on with it.Certainly in my early supporting days there were very, very few highs. Plenty moral victories but very few trophies.
But there was never the bile coming from us that fouls the air today.
In my first 14 supporting years I witnessed 2 League Cups , 2 Scottish Cups and 1 League Flag, but we still turned up and never booed a player.
Fans or customers?
The poster, bk2 @18.32 said it well when he spoke of "unconditional love".
As an exercise, substitute a loved family member's name for Celtic, before you publicly condemn the club or it'e staff.
Anyway, enough already. What's better than having one wee ginger whinger about the club. Having two.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WizardofOz
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:10
COMMENT-BODY:I never actually posted on the Neil Lennon thread, so if this has already been said, apologies for going over the same ground.
Neil's arrival is, to me, an indication that Gordon Strachan feels he cannot sufficiently motivate the players to go out and give of their best, ie, he lacks man management skills.
I have always been a Gordon fan, but lately, his popularity, even among his supporters, appears to be on the wane.
Has Neil Lennon been brought back to be an assistant in waiting? Despite the comments and unflinching endorsement of the manager at todays press conference, I can't shake the feeling that we may well be seeing a new man at the helm next season.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Walfrid's_Ghost
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:13
COMMENT-BODY:Yeah totally agree wit the wizzardofoz like... Lawwell is a financial wiz he's nearly paid off the debts of previous regimes... and what's more, we've been at the CL knockout stages 2yrs on the trot... 10 years ago we'd've killed for that as we were STRUGGLING against Zurich!! Strachan is a legend for signing folk who'll bring in the dosh as well as nab it! Keep up the good work lads!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: WizardofOz
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:20
COMMENT-BODY:Off topic....
Apparently good e/w tip for the big race tomorrow.
Snowy Morning.
Source for this is generally accurate and came up better than average at Cheltenham.
I don't regularly bet the gee-gge's myself, just passing it on.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ardoch
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:31
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ardoch
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:34
COMMENT-BODY:Claude the Hypnotist exclaimed: 'I'm here to put you into a trance; I intend to hypnotize each and every member of the audience.'
The excitement was almost electric as Claude withdrew a beautiful antique pocket watch from his coat.
'I want you each to keep your eyes on this antique watch. It's a very special watch. It's been in my family for six generations.'
He began to swing the watch gently back and forth while quietly chanting, 'Watch the watch, watch the watch, and watch the watch.'
The crowd became mesmerized as the watch swayed back and forth, light gleaming off its polished surface.
Hundreds of pairs of eyes followed he swaying watch, until suddenly, it slipped from the hypnotist's fingers and fell to the floor, shattering into a hundred pieces. 'SHIT!' said the Hypnotist.
It took three days to clean up.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulysses McGhee
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:42
COMMENT-BODY:Pfayr - is it ok to phone or text you?
Would gladly take you up on the ticket - if still available - have been doing the dinner with family there so missed other posts.
Will check back in in 5 mins.
u.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Estadio Nacional
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:42
COMMENT-BODY:I have been saying all week that this is by no means over. Great blog Im now even more sure it can be won.
I know theres the odd tendency for this blog to drfit towards musical discussions later on Fridays.
If anyones interested theres a Rolling Stones/Martin Scorsese night on Sky Arts just now (Sky Channel 267)
A couple of Stones films still to go.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:43
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr -
see you in BB briefly if you pardon the pun
token -
cheers for offer
WishyGhirls'sbigbrother
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:49
COMMENT-BODY:Uly text away
WG is your sis getting TTT `s ticket as Uly is also looking for one
i is getting confused ...not assisted by cobra beer case of
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:50
COMMENT-BODY:I'm thinking about the big black glazed car going round the red ash and Cliff singing 'Congratulations' - my life, The 60s/early 70s
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:51
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr -
lost, give uly yours rather than go on all night about it
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:54
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Han Solo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:55
COMMENT-BODY:Johnnyquest-
there is only one.
My mate-
Terry O'Neill-Audio hunskelper and all round good egg.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 22:59
COMMENT-BODY:wg
see earlier posts it explains .....i was reading blog last to first and saw Uly`s post first ...when of course it was second
TTT ...has offered your sis his
sorry about this
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:01
COMMENT-BODY:uly
have you retained mob number
i will delete if so
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: johnnyquest
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:03
COMMENT-BODY:Han,does he live in UDDINGSTON?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: May67
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:08
COMMENT-BODY:You really must believe us...
You really must believe us...
You really must believe us......
We're gonnae win the league.
Great heading for your latest offering, Paul. Thought you'd be too young to remember the days of that ditty......
Starting tomorrow...
Believe!
Hail! Hail!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:15
COMMENT-BODY:WG,
if you're still here, the offer is still there.
I'll check back in bout about 11.30pm.
Should have kept my big mouth shut, seems i have just confused everyone :-)
Anyway let me know WG mate.
Cheers
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:18
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:19
COMMENT-BODY:ps -
Mass
10-1030
WG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Han Solo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:29
COMMENT-BODY:Johnnyquest-
Naw.
He just uses the phone box there.........
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: whitedoghunch
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:32
COMMENT-BODY:gents
I would avoid putting up mobile numbers.Why not create a quick hotmail or google adress with a cqn name for using to making contact.
Bryan
0898 795 80085 (24hr line)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:36
COMMENT-BODY:07171 717171
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:37
COMMENT-BODY:WDH
YOU ATTENDING AT BB`S ?
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:40
COMMENT-BODY:WG,
you there???
Token.
PS - Im confused now!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:42
COMMENT-BODY:
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: whitedoghunch
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:44
COMMENT-BODY:pfayr
there is an outside chance.
I'm not attending the game.
It is making me laugh as I type but work may get in the way.
chin chin
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pfayr
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:45
COMMENT-BODY:NIGHT ALL
be in BB`s in less than 12 hours
WDH hope to see you there
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:45
COMMENT-BODY:WG,
Thanks will call in morning bout 10am.
Cheers
Token,
PS - Was Teser busy and were there any decent/new ales on the go?
In recent times I have avoided like the plague, tend to stick to tavern in ML1 these days.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Han Solo
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:47
COMMENT-BODY: Random Celtic Video Plucked Out Of Mid-Air
[just for those who still have their towels.....]
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:51
COMMENT-BODY:Jeeezus Han mate,
its only the germans who have towels at this time of night, just getting ready to stick them on the sunbeds!
HAIL! HAIL!
Herr Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: winningemmell
COMMENT-DATE:04/04/08 23:54
COMMENT-BODY:token -
I phoned sis who awaits your call 10ish, the only new beer tonight was Sneck Lifter which I abhor.
It's an unlucky beer, fiery serpents etc.
It tastes like burnt treacle toffee wi pink juice of Brillo Pad on top
not my favourite, the un-Kenny Dal of Beer
Nite all
WWWTL
WG
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 00:03
COMMENT-BODY:WG,
Thanks mate.
Re, the ale.....YEEEUCH!
As an aside, i gather we may share the same footballing hero, a guy for whom 26th March 1986 was a major date!
Nite mate.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 00:11
COMMENT-BODY:PS - HAN,
send shivers down my spine every time I watch clips and/or the whole shebang.
I will now either sleep like a very contented baby or else will be wide awake imagining how good it must have been that day/night/week in '67 and if I will ever be lucky enough to get a sniff of that success.
Sevilla was close, but the EC would be different league (almost literally) altogether!
"WALK ON! WALK O-o-o-o-n,
WITH HOPE IN YOUR HEARTS"
Onwards to 3IAR starting with murderwell tomorrow!
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: andycolo
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 00:12
COMMENT-BODY:While last weeks result was a bitter blow I have always felt that the number of away games Rangers have to play at the end of the season will be a major factor. I am in no doubt that they will drop points but the big question is will we? I remain hopeful and have been thinking of a wager on the Bhoys to lift the league as the odds are generous in my view. Many thanks to the bluenoses puting their cash on their team for making my bet an attractive proposition. I was looking around to find the best odds when what should find its way into my inbox but an email from Paddy Power reminding me of £25 I have had lying in a long forgotten account there. Its a sign I tell you! Said £25 is now on Celtic together with my original bet. Just a matter of waiting to pick up my winnings now and heading to as many games as possible now to roar on my team.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: CaltonTongues
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 00:21
COMMENT-BODY:For the second time in a few months I've heard: LL&L, please god no!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 00:29
COMMENT-BODY:Calton my fellow Bhoy,
please excuse my slightly booze addled brain when i ask:
LL & L????
I know I am setting myself up for this one, but......ach whatrahell after falling for Lafin Achue as the author of a NYT article, this one will be tame by comparison!
HAIL! HAIL!
Half-witted Token
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: possilbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 00:37
COMMENT-BODY:Non football item here.
Grand National tip - SIMON. Going at around 11/1 just now.
This was given to me by a riend who has picked the last 3 winners. It's worth a wee punt.
Hail Hail
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: CaltonTongues
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 00:39
COMMENT-BODY:TTT,
Fellow Bhoy (brill),
I could not believe what I heard tonight but, as I stated, I heard the same thing months ago and guffawed then.
Clues: L - just turned up? L - Wycome? L - trapped the baw wae his bahookie?
Lookslikeanotherdreamteam.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: TheTokenTim
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 00:51
COMMENT-BODY:Calton,
as Alan of the Partridge family would say: A-HA!
It was the 3rd one I was struggling with, albeit the first two were educated guesses.
Knowing me, Token; Knowing You*, CaltonTongues...
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
* = (well not really but we'll kid on for the sake of this "comedy"!)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: pitbelts
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 01:52
COMMENT-BODY:The Token Tim,
You come across as being well educated in the manner that you write your postings but you have went down in my estimations and I need to take you to task for mentioning WHSFP's on this page. Just goes to prove once TTT always the TTT.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 01:55
COMMENT-BODY:I wait and hope and pray that come the day others will make my dreams come true.
It really is a cup final, each and every week, from now until seasons end.
I wonder how many of these finals we’re going to win.
And should we win them all. Then my joy would shade all that has gone before. (in football anyway).
Tomorrows game is, once again, the biggest game of the season.
Slievenamon
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Stoir Mha Chroi
COMMENT-DATE:05/04/08 02:04
COMMENT-BODY:Keeping the Faith
Wild Colonial Bhoy
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TITLE: Lack of awareness in central midfield costs Celtic, again
AUTHOR: Paul67
DATE: 3/29/2008 04:07:00 PM
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BODY:
Celtic played considerable better than their last two visits to Ibrox, especially in the first half, but after conceding on the stroke of half time, leaving 45 minutes to get back on level terms, they produced little in the second half and were comfortably closed out by Rangers as the game ended.
The goal was infuriating. Kevin Thomson was left in 15 yards of space in the middle of the Celtic half to collect a throw-in and move forward. When Scott Brown noticed he was unmarked, Thomson was already planning his forward move.
When a team concedes a throw-in inside their own half they should immediately mark-up, ensuring the opponent is limited to throwing a high ball forward. Today was not the first time this season Celtic have been slow to mark at a throw in, but it was the most costly.
This is not a skill, ability or fitness problem, it is a lack of awareness in our central midfield area, which has been a persistent theme this season.
Celtic could and perhaps should have taken the lead in the first half, Brown hit the post and was once through with McGregor to beat, but I was never convinced that the players believed in themselves; only Giorgios Samaras, who troubled Rangers throughout, had sufficient purpose, but he was not given a clear chance all afternoon.
A fourth game without scoring against Ranges is a miserable return, even if three of the games have been at Ibrox.
Unlike some of our recent winning performances which have made for painful watching, Celtic were better today; the game was certainly there for the winning, which makes the loss all the more frustrating.Labels: Match Report
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Malcolm
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:07
COMMENT-BODY:Bah!
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the long wait is over
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:10
COMMENT-BODY:From last thread
Belfastbhoy
While i thought Dougal and his cohorts made some bad decisions today
1) whistled back naka when going through for a free kick and didnt book the player
2) the linesman missing 2 corners in the first half
3) the same linesman , who had a perfect view of it , not flagging that Thomson should have been booked
only one person was to blame for us not getting a penalty and that was Brown -- no ref is going to give a penalty to the away team in a derby when the opposition player stays on his feet.
WE lost that game today and noone else is to blame -- the fourth official could have added 23 mins extra time and we wouldnt have scored
Incidentally Ill pretty much guarantee you theres nothing wrong with Thomson -- Rangers just took him off to ensure he didnt get booked -- they were cute enough to know that he would only have gotten booked if he got back on his feet.
TLWIO
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Malcolm
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:11
COMMENT-BODY:2nd first in a couple weeks, only this time I don't feel like celebrating.
This defeat hurts like hell - we have become spoiled of late, and we don't look to have the means to pull it around. To lose the title (its time to be realistic) to what is a very poor Rankers squad is going to be very difficult to accept.
This reminded me of the early-mid nineties. We used to hammer them, play them off the park, yet still get beat 1-0.
Gutted...
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:12
COMMENT-BODY:For those who have given up, give yourselves a shake.
Whatever shortcomings there are, any Celtic person who gives up while there's still any hope, any possibility, has read the wrong history books.
Nothing sums up the Celtic way more than that. Onward we go. We at least keep battling. That has been ingrained in our psyche and our culture since 1887 and it's not going to end now.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Paul67
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:12
COMMENT-BODY:Lubo, ‘GG, hail hail, thanks for the assistance earlier.
Malcolm, yes, this is a defeat we have experienced several times before against Walter Smith's teams in the 90s.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Sean South
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:13
COMMENT-BODY:the godfather:Insipid is the perfect word to describe our spineless surrender today.
I accept that Collins or McGhee are rookie bossess, but I think we may have to go down that route because I can't see more experienced bossess such as Moyes giving up the Premier League for the SPL.
It will be interesting to hear Paul67's take on Strachan's future.
And where he feels we are in a relation to his much-ridiculed Generation of Domination theory.
My feeling is that this season Strchan has taken us right back to where we were eight years ago before Martin O'Neill came in.
We are capitulating to Rangers just like we were pre-O'Neill and at least half this team needs thrown on to the nearest scrapheap.
Crowds and income are set to fall dramatically yet we have been repeatedly told on this blog that we have the upper hand over Rangers.
Doesn't feel much like it to me.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Greenwells Glory
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:14
COMMENT-BODY:Well well I still do not believe it is all over however I do believe we have lost the league.. First half performance was good Scott Brown especially His best game for us I thought. Our two strikers did well unfortunately Aiden chose this match to turn his worst performance so far of the season.
You could see the goal coming stand up all three of the usual suspects plus why was there no defender behind the keeper. Un professional defending that is and is what cost us.. We may yet win this league but no matter which way it goes the manager must pack his bags. His obstinacy and lack of vision has cost us dearly. Here is a thing Scott Brown 4.5 Mil Donatti 2 Mil Hartley and Robson 2 Mil Sean Maloney is a far better player than any of them. Steven Mcmanus still has a part to play in the team :- the groundsmans team giuve him a shovel the great Garry Caldwell should retire at his peak. The best I leave till last Lee Naylor a social worker in the making.
To have defenders who are incapable of concentrating till the whistle blows is totally unacceptable. The first 40 mins there was only one team in it Sammeras must be signed as a matter of urgency by the new manager. An on field leader must be obtained Darren Odea must be given his chance. We must acquire pace upfront. And pace and bite in the middle of the park. This team does not deserve the Celtic support except maybe for the fools who have dragged us to the gutter in Barcelona.
Strachan’s main fault is obstinacy only fools put their faith in fools and refuse to believe the evidence that confronts their own eyes . By standing by players who should have been discarded long ago we have lost our advantage.. Allin all there were good things on show today and luck was certainly not with us we will get two more chances against them and we should take them. I do not find any pleasure in calling for the head of a Celtic manager but incompetence should always get its just reward.
We should be well ahead in this league but a culture of tolerating sub standard performances has brought us to this pass. This may sound like a hurting rant but I find myself to be quite sanguine . If we are to continue to play our football in the SPL then to win 3 4 5 6 7 even 9 times in a row is not desireable. I like to have strong opponents because you have to be strong to beat them. I want to see us kick off the new season with Tony Mobray, Marc Mcghee or John Hughes at the helm regardless of whether Strachan wins the title or not..
Edward have a large malt if I ever meet you I will buy you a good one. And by the by the ref today was absolutely excellent. We will rise again.
Semper in excretia sumus et profunduit variat.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Ulster-Celt
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:15
COMMENT-BODY:we have won one game in the last six versus gretna and we were muck
surely miracles do not happen
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: BigChipSuk
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:16
COMMENT-BODY:Repeated from end of last post:
TLWIO, I see too many people just slagging off all and sundry for the sake of it... "get rid of X, Y should never pull on the hoops again, sack Z"... but I don't see any real, tangible solutions being proffered.
"We need 2 top notch centre backs and a new, quality left back. Plus 3 decent midfielders." But come on, offer some names. Who is out there that is available and that wants to come and play in the joke league of Europe, with the added bonus of the Scottish weather? (There you are Italiabhoy, I've resorted to talking about the weather. And bhoy is it grim in Yorkshire this afternoon... weather to reflect the mood!)
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: Celtic_First
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:17
COMMENT-BODY:Sean South
Anyone who's capitulating should leave the room quietly now.
There's no capitulation. The Wattenaccio is hard to break down as quite a few good teams have found this season. Credit where it's due, although it must be dire to watch week in week out, against SPL teams as well as good European ones, but there you go.
Anyone's who gives up while there is still a glimmer of hope is far less in touch with the Celtic way than the players and coaching staff you complain about.
There are shortcomings. We're not blind or stupid. But there is still hope and we fight on.
I'm sure you can come up with a good description for people who want to give up now and only come back when things are going swimmingly again.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: dontbrattbackinanger
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:18
COMMENT-BODY:The chickens have come home to roost this season, no question.
It is clear that the last 2 titles were built on the framework of the hard[ if well paid and aging] pros left from the Martin time, with the notable exception of THG[ who god knows deserves better than to have to line-up with this sorry lot].
We will nothing this year and the main reason for this lies with the manager. Managers don't have complete influence on what goes on over the white line[ although the good ones can make a difference]but their influence is not negligible, either. I went out to buy Toilet Duck at halftime hoping it might get us a goal; it didn't sadly but that random commercial transaction stood as much chance of success as anything the Ginger Helmsman conjured up from his big book of Cunning Plans.
My major fear now is that the Board give him another year' to turn it round'.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: gallbhoy
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:19
COMMENT-BODY:celtic first
its not a case of giving up but who on that team is a leader capable leading from the front i suspect we are devoid of that and also we need a new manager
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: PjDali
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:19
COMMENT-BODY:With regards to the Thomson incident I was livid......sitting watching the game with a bluenose and it was fairly heated I tell you as I knew exactly what was going on......and to a Gers fan the ref got it exactly spot on.
If he had been sent of I'm not sure it would have made much difference to be honest but it's the fact big decisions are made and rarely in our favour that really gets to me.....fairness is too much to ask for it seems.
No doubt Thomson in crutches will be pictured later today.......but I for one believe he is a cheat as is Dougall for defying the laws of the game and sending him off.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: the long wait is over
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:24
COMMENT-BODY:bigchipsuk
I understand what you mean but lets face it blogs like this and others really only allow us to blow off steam
I doubt if any one of our criticisms or the suggested solutions you crave make a blind bit of actual difference.
Paul -- if im wrong on the last bit and you believe the powers that be take some cognisance of opinions expressed here then I'll be the first to apologise.
I mean it as no disrespect to the thing of beauty about our beloved but currently frustrating club youve created here.
TLWIO
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: The Narrowbhoat Tim
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:25
COMMENT-BODY:Today's result is making me physically sick, can't concentrate on writing an essay, nothing for it but to get a couple of bottles of wine retire to the narrowbhoat and drink myself better while swearing at the waterfowl in the canal.
It was disappointing the lack of fight in some of the players. McManus has to be drop, I have been supporting WGS all season but he has an inability to drop players who are out of form. Graveson would have scored today with the chances that Brown had. We can complain about Thompson not being shown a second yellow card but McManus and Naylor were lucky to stay on the park after they received a yellow. The timing of Mick's tackling is atrocious, give the captaincy to Boruc for the rest of the season.
Radical changes have to be made now if we have any hope of winning the league.
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COMMENT-AUTHOR: SwanseaBhoy
COMMENT-DATE:29/03/08 16:27
COMMENT-BODY:BigChipSuk
Are you me? I agree 100% with your comments.
So far the names I've read to replace Strachan are - Davie Moyes, Tony Mowbray, Mark McGhee, John Collins. All of these guys have merit - some more than others in my view....
But the question remains. For those of you who have suggested them - are you certain, CERTAIN, that they would exceed Strachan's achievements on the relatively limited budget Strachan's had?
You believe in your