A few points about Stewart Milne’s comments this week. Immediately after the Court of Session overturned the earlier rulings on Rangers EBTs, putting the issue of sporting advantage in the spotlight, I noted that it would be the clubs who would decide if this matter would be looked at again, and that if Celtic were unable to gain support from a number of clubs, the issue was dead in the water.
The conversation has been parked until after BDO hear about their application to appeal to the Supreme Court but the issue remains active. Celtic are not alone on this matter, but as you hear from Milne, everyone is not on the same page.
I was a bit surprised Milne spoke openly on the issue but this needed to come out. Just as the SPFL’s decision to act or not is in the hands of the clubs, Aberdeen’s stance on the matter is ultimately in the hands of their supporters. If they care enough about the issue, they must express this view to Milne as clearly as they did in 2012, when they changed his plans on an earlier matter.
Milne’s comments about Scottish football’s position relative to the game in England were among the most futile ever uttered. He is one of the few people in a position to work for change. Aberdeen have more going for them than Swansea – a smaller club based outside England who earn over £100m from Premier League TV rights each season.
No wonder we’re outside the party when one of the men in charge has only just recognised a party exists.
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BMCUWP
Hiya!
I’ve got a feeling she will know most of what she’s getting as she gave me a list of things about a month ago!
Really looking forward to Christmas!
We’ve got 13 for dinner and they are staying over.
The breakfast will take me longer to make than the Christmas bliddy dinner!
Actually it is more likely to be a Boxing Day Brunch!!
Hi Kitalba,
Of course. My view is that some posters find it hard to read opinions that differ from their own without replying straight off the bat in a dismissive and often disrespectful way. There is absolutely nothing wrong with having a personal reservation and voicing that reservation/fear in heartfelt and sincere opinion. Absolutely nothing. What irks me is that I’ve seen examples where people have had their opinion dismissed, in what I feel is in an unsavoury way. Where what they are saying has been given no consideration by others. Where others don’t even countenance that what they are saying may have merit, and may be heartfelt and sincere opinion. That happens to both “camps”. Anti-board views are dismissed in a way that is not very nice, and pro-board views are belittled.
You said yourself yesterday that Stewart Milne was entitled to his opinion, and you were absolutely right. People do not deserve to be derided for their opinion, however when in delivery of that opinion one utterly dismisses the view of others in a way that I don’t think is very nice, I feel that is bellicose.
I am not taking one side or another, or trying to single out individuals.
That’s just my opinion…of course i could be totally wrong and too delicate a flower of internet forums ;)
PHILBHOY
I envy you,and I don’t!
Wi that amount of people who matter to you,you’ll have a grand time.
Look on the bright side,there are rules in every game.
And one is…
I cooked,I’m not doing the effing dishes!!!!!!
BMCUWP
If you drop the first dirty plate, someone usually comes and takes over!
Tried and tested!
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35130550
Davidopoulos-VG
Here was me thinking Belicose was a caugh medicine!
CQN – the ORdacle of Celtic sites.
MWD is a tious face
Strange how this chat of a 16team league is turning into chat from a mumble treated with disdain before that.
why is that?
sporting integrity has never been registered with these cheats,I think the new club know Hibs will get the better of them on the park,
The soft spoken castlemulk cadgers eye is jittering fiercely,he has secured his warchest to firefight in the courts.no money is available to warbiola.
An insovency event is coming down Govan way and the point deductions will mean Cheat international wont have enough points to get up…..unless the fabled reconstruction takes place.
:-)
PF Ayr/any
wee question
If you were the QC who stated that £5m is paid back on advise from your client.How would you feel if Paul Murray insisted you had made a mistake? Could that end up as another court case?-asked only as the mans reputation is being questioned imo :-)
HH
Davidopolous
which browbeats the average poster and alienates them
That´s their decsion surely !!
CQN in the Old Testament (pre 5WA) was about accurate intelligent debate about Celtic finances mainly and also the very slow train crash that was the huns. In the New Testament days .. very early on their was a statement that chit chat would be tolerated but it should not take over CQN. That this was not CQN´s purpose. Unfortunately due to the need of a news blackout by our plc and Paul67´s pathetically submissive take on all things Celtic the chattering cheerleaders took the blog over. Celtic´s plcs needs must etc.
HH
AT
PF on the lash with his staff, may not get a decent reply for a few days☘☘
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/an-ecumenical-matter/
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
:-) good man.
HH
I have become convinced that each and every person with an addiction to anything Scottish football is madder than a bag of monkeys.
AN TEARMANN
Cheers,mate. For reasons stated.
Patrick27,
Fine article. I hope there is room for three letters in front of the name Billy McNeill on his statue.
Whether you agree with the honours system or not, big Billy deserves it as much as Trevor Brooking or Bobby Charlton.
HH.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
I respect your view. I was not on CQN at the start. Maybe that dimishes the worth of my opinion. It seems that CQN has evolved/morphed (whatever the appropriate word is) into something that is different from its original form, like a lot of things tend to do over time. I value CQN in its current form quite highly, however you perhaps don’t.
“First of all to clear up what happened in court last week, that was just a simple mistake which was made by our QC. He didn’t have the facts to his fingertips.”
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I wonder whether any journalist has contacted the Q.C’s chambers for a comment on that account of events.
DAVIDOPOULOS on 18TH DECEMBER 2015 12:27 PM
I believe entirely in free speech. Very few posts bother me. I see the frustration from both camps boiling over and becoming personal. That´s because we care. I scroll by posters whom I think don’t add to the blog or whom I have lost respect for. So no big deal.
CQN is a phenomenon like most things Celtic related. I do not place it highly with regards my social life and I do not take it too seriously. Less serious every day unfortunately. I dont think I am alone in feeling that way …but I do not speak for anyone but myself. Paul67 is caught between a rock and a hard place and imho he chose a hard place.
HH
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC437060/filing-history?page=1
RIFC at companies house
Dunno if its a filing list or list of witnesses looking back,interesting input on 14 dec 2012 ‘commence business and borrow’
imo should be cheat and rip off!
HH
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
I think you are valuable contributor so it is unfortunate that you feel less connected (if that is the right term) with the blog. I understand that many do, as you say, feel the same way as you. The blog isn’t perfect but still carries importance for me. However, who knows maybe one day I’ll feel like you do.
Blantyre Tim
Ach he needs nae excuse :-) hehe
I think Oldtim67 will enjoy that CQN article posted by WC this morning http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/the-darkest-hour-isnt-always-just-before-the-dawn/
:-)
HH
Enjoy your Day Celts
looking forward to our Captains day tomorrow
HH
NAT
I also meant to say, for years NA2 posted the same stuff without anyone attacking him, they did the message, but no him personally.
It’s only in the past year or so that he has been getting attacked, hence imo he retaliates, if I were in his shoes I would do the same.
HH
Davidopolous
I do not think that is just CQN per se.
I think by extension;
Celtic as an organisation and as my Identity I feel less connected with it.
Football in general and Scottish football in particular
I do believe though that my regular days of posting are numbered as that hefty erosion continues. Many I reckon are hoping that the plc pulls a rabbit out of the hat with regards Scottish football governance. I consider myself as one but the day it becomes apparent that the plc are part of the problem and I believe that they are and that day will come soon I will post less often leaving the cheerleader to cheer.
I may be a b******d but I am not a c***
You guys will have to put up with me regularly until then. Irregular afterwards and only with irritating ” we sure are the Old Firm posts eh”
HH
Good lunchtime friends
AWE NAW
Awe naw? There are many who would disagree with your main point!
FWIW,I’ve always enjoyed your mineshafting. Very illuminating,and like that of NEGANON,consistent and sadly difficult to contradict.
Most of all though,I’ll miss yer AWENAWED articles. In that respect,I can understand your wish to depart this fine site.
It’s getting increasingly difficult to parody this lot.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
I totally understand how you feel. I recognise that the PLC has stretched the patience of a huge swathe of fans to an extraordinary extent.
At least “we sure are the Old Firm” will be less annoying than my puns ;)
Davidopoulus I may be a bellicose bore but at least I am willing to look at the obvious staring us in the face and call it.
I completely understand that it’s difficult to accept that something that you love is rotten to the core. It’s a part of being human to defend that what you love.
But the apology I have often drawn is the girlfriend you desperately love and adore (those of us who have occasionally punched above our weight may emphasise with this). You love and adore her, but you sort of know she is cheating on you. You’ve seen the odd text, she is out a lot, seems not as interested in you etc. But you can’t bear to face that truth and confront it because when you do you know that either things will never be the same again or you will have to lose the thing you love.
So the love that you bear prevents you from facing up to the ugly truth and you start to become a sort of quisling.
And so it is with Celtic. The club has been an obsession of mine long before the wife and kids came etc. I used to defend everything the club did, partly because we were bestet by numerous enemies.
But as the years have unfolded I started to see the ugly truth. At first for me it was lack of ambition, that we were massaging our accounts to back up that lack of ambition, to dampen supporter expectation. Time and time again never strengthening from a position of strength. That led to days like black Sunday and I despaired at the needless waste. But the thing is, in those days, the early cqn days, at least I could understand the counter views. The need to be safe, the need to be careful with moment etc. Sure we argued about the detail but having a lack of ambition is no crime and some of the intent behind it was laudable and understandable.
But with the Huns demise the real ugly truth has emerged.
Weeminger said earlier that I never answer questions. In fact I always do. The 5 way agreement. I think it is implausible that Celtic didn’t know about it. That’s bad enough. To know and do and say nothing. But worse was that the media called Celtic out regarding their actual involvement in the 5 way agreement and Celtic never denied it. Now we can all hide behind the sofa and pretend that’s cos Celtic wouldn’t dignify it with a response or it’s really clever of Celtic to be silent (they are never silent when it comes to attacking the Celtic support mind) but I am sorry it’s bullshit. If you were being dragged into this debacle and you hadn’t been involved you wouldn’t be slow to deny it.
Celtic have been involved all the way. You have hear DD and PL on their desire for the Hun return. It’s all about money for them. Racism is good for money. Our downtrodden underdog status is great for business.
They let ogilvie get elected unoppossed.
They have said and done nothing while the corruption was laid out before us.
Paul on this site has waxed lyrical about the Huns demise but has studiously avoided any serious discussion on Celtics actions or inactions.
And so it feels like your girlfriend has taken to almost flaunting her infidelity in front of you and doesn’t deny it when you ask her. She just won’t speak about it.
Celtic are up to their necks in this. They know it’s a high risk strategy. They gambled on the racist money as the best bet. Res12 is a thorn in their side. They can’t kill it because to kill it would signify their corruption. But they can’t adopt it either. So they let the fans do the dirty work and hope at some point we will all get bored and move on.
Moving on was the thing I was waiting on from Paul. He knows the boards strategy on this issue. He knows the time is coming to kill the story and move on. I was wondering what the strategy for doing that would be. Now we know. Celtic will blame it on the other clubs inaction and claim they can’t act alone.
But we know they never intended to act.
And the ugly truth is that those who are supposed to represent us are actually our biggest enemy. Because they want to exploit the racism practices against us to make more money. That on its own should be enough to make you want to rebel.
But if your throw in the fact that it’s is crystal clear to all of us that football inscotland is to all intents and purposes a rigged game then it should be enough to man the barricades.
maybe if you confront your girlfriend she will realise the error of her ways and change. Maybe you can forgive her and move on. But living with the status quo isn’t living. It’s living a lie, at best a half life with no room left for your own self respect.
More and more the claims of more than a club ring hollow. The laughable claims of the most ethical club in the world grate on the truth. You cannot be at. One with your self while this lie exists.
Paul also claims that Celtic don’t employ PR. Well the what on earth is this site and what on earth are Paul’s leaders? They are nothing but club PR.
And it’s become increasingly tenuous to the point now that it’s downright silly at times. But that’s where the lie will take you. It will take you to do more and more mental gymnastics until you are so bent out of shape you don’t even recognise your self any more.
I know I can seem over the top I my views at time but the thing is, never have Celtic been in more danger, never. The strategy the board have taken here is the strategy of death for Celtic. We now see the club acting in concert with corruption. It’s laid bare.
Some may choose to stay with their cheating girlfriend. Many will walk. We will lessen as a result. And as time goes on those who stay will no longer be able to point to Celtic being more than just a club. Any acts of morality will be pissing in the wind to the lie that sits in the director box on a Saturday casting contempt after contempt at the dwindling crowds.
It may all seem melodramatic. But after all this is the death of something I love. So it feels pretty dramatic to me.
NA
DAVIDOPOULOS
Sorry,mate. No time for puns,personally.
Not a great fan of homophonia.
new article posted.
NEGANON
WOW…
Superb post,mate.
Mind,I could have had a podium if I had scrolled it…
CQN Nags
Spirit of Shankly 2-40pm Haydock please
My nap today 3.35 Ascot – Zarib
Cheers GFTB
Fingal Bay in 3.00 Ascot
Malibu Sun 13:50 @ Ascot.
What a strange way to place someone in the shop window.
Smacks of desperation.
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/derk-boerrigter-exit-best-for-player-and-celtic-1-3979750
Naps, naps, glorious naps… on here today !
Cheers, fleagle1888