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BRTH
Usual pish.
“back at the top table”, “relegated”, early qualifying round for the next World Cup of Liquidation Lies(c) The Clumpany.
Petec,
being a bad loser is far from being the same as someone who doesnt like getting beat
gordybhoy64 on 5th December 2016 12:01 am
Petec,
being a bad loser is far from being the same as someone who doesnt like getting beat
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I’d much rather we had Brendan Rogers than Mark McGhee – OBVIOUSLY, I’m just trying to, badly obviously, say that MMcG isnae as bad as people make out.
https://www.facebook.com/itsfootballm8/videos/716872595142624/
Lots of swearys but this must be seen lo.
HH
Off for the much needed B******EAU*******AEU*******UAE*******ty Sleep – Up @ 5.
Don’t Sell McCourt.
CELTICROLLERCOASTER SUPPORTING @WALKWITHSHAY on 4TH DECEMBER 2016 11:05 PM
Mark McGhee for Celtic is a joke.
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Dunno. There’s a lot of dissatisfaction in the North Stand with the Bovril being too hot, the pies being too cold and the queues being too long. Big McGhee could sort it all out by pointing out that this is not Celtic class and bringing the kind of Celtic cuteness that can turn a pie concession around…
Looks like the media will try and give TRFC/RIFC’s membership of the ECA greater meaning than that of being an Associate Member.
Here is ECA web site that sets the context and relationship of the ECA with UEFA.
http://www.ecaeurope.com/
FAQ page is at http://www.ecaeurope.com/faq-page/ An Associate Membership has no voting rights apparently.
Quick dip into blog
Re Celts to add to present Celtic team.
I appreciate that you can only comment on what you’ve seen so I can’t take umbrage at any other choices
Howevva
Bobby Murdoch would be first choice of any Celt I have ever seen.
Yes even before Jinky and Henrik.
If you doubt me ask the likes of great judges of players like
Jackie Charlton, Matt Stewart, Bertie or Billy or David Hay
A wee extract from today’s reading seems appropriate for the blog and not just on this current thread
May the God of endurance and encouragement
grant you to think in harmony with one another
And it’s a good night from me.
Only in Scottish football could the tackle on Lustig for their second goal be deemed acceptable. Their player had both feet off the ground, a complete no-no at any level of the game.
Where’s the line between a decent challenge and a sending-off offence?
Effectively there are four types of challenge – firstly a correct tackle, where the player fairly wins the ball and there is no impact on their opponent, the vast majority of challenges.
A small element are careless – the player makes a legitimate attempt but either in their timing or the skill of the opponent, they foul the other player and a free kick is given.
If the tackle is reckless in nature, the player is booked, a yellow card is given.
If a player endangers the safety of their opponent, it’s a red card, a sending-off.
A tackle happens in a blink of an eye and in that second, the referee must consider lots of factors. Was it careless? Did the player show a lack of regard for his opponent’s safety? Or did he use excessive force? There is also the state of the pitch, the conditions and the state of the game.
What makes a red card tackle stand out?
The advice to players is to be mindful of their responsibilities towards an opponent and beware that if they commit to a tackle, at speed, with intensity, with two feet off the ground, they run the risk of being sent off.
Liverpool’s Jonjo Shelvey ahead of being sent off after a tackle on Manchester United’s Jonny Evans
Shelvey was sent off after a clash with Evans
The advice from referees and assistants to players is to put themselves in their opponent’s place and ask: “Can I make this challenge without having an adverse effect on my opponent?”
Referees look for the intensity, and the physical contact that’s made.
What about the angle of the tackle, if the player wins the ball, if studs are up or down?
The angle is not important, it’s the degree of intensity and contact made.
And a player could win the ball with one foot and still endanger their opponent with the other. A decade ago, if a player won the ball, the tackle could be seen as legitimate, but now the emphasis is on the safety of the players.
The number of free-kicks given has declined in Premier League games and is amongst the lowest per game of any major league worldwide.
With studs, almost by definition, if a player is going into a tackle two-footed, airborne, their studs raised, then they cannot control their velocity and risk a red card.
How do referees try to ensure uniformity across the league?
At the start of every season the Professional Game Match Officials – the body which runs refereeing in England – visit clubs and go through examples of controversial incidents.
They tell players and management staff that if players commit to a challenge at speed with both feet off the ground they risk a red card.
If there is a spate of controversial decisions, the PGMO comes together with the PFA and LMA and re-issues the guidelines on what is an acceptable challenge – to try to reach a common understanding and interpretation of the rules.
The “select group” of the Premier League’s 16 referees and 30 assistant referees meet every two weeks to review and discuss incidents. Their performance is also reviewed using a post-match analysis computer system.
The site has been really frustrating to use for several weeks now. Pages taking an age to load, jumps back to the top post unprompted and prone to freezing altogether before reloading the previous page. Is it only me and my phone?
Neilbhoy
I use Firefox for connecting to CQN and had the same problem for ages. Was advised on here to download “AdblockerPlus for Firefox”. Did so,and the problems disappeared immediately. Give it a try,mate. HH.
NEILBHOY
Turning off JavaScript works on my iPad and iPhone. Desktop at work is a nightmare though.
Just watched the 35 minutes of highlights thoughtfully provided by someone yesterday.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W5TEaVgtqX8
Ah,that were grand…
Regicide on ten goals,when was the last time we had a twenty a season midfielder?
Btw,whoever suggested Dembele was offside when the final whistle went as he was clean through-he was in his own half,with two players goalside.
Anyway,here’s an image of Mark McGhee after his pounding on and off the pitch by Brendan.
http://www.ednevnik.si/uploads/r/RazbOjniK/37780.jpg
Haha. Kwality!
Regicide?
Wtf,that must take the prize for yer spellcheck showing you up!
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 4TH DECEMBER 2016 4:25 PM
KU
I am currently in a car park and so replying via the phone which I detest so I will be as brief as possible but as full as possible too.
Taking your points in no particular order.
I understand you have written to Peter Lawwell, Michael Nicholson, Auldheid, Canamalar and I don’t know who else so that is a pretty wide group.
You have stated clearly that you have told at least one of those people why I am not suitable to represent you.
What you have not done is written to me to explain why that should be. I have received no communication from you whatsoever which sets out any criteria why I should not represent shareholders or what actions I have taken which is to your or anyone else’s detriment.
I think that is most unfair and improper as anyone who is having some form of accusation levelled against them should have had that accusation intimated to them personally and they should have the right of reply.
Do you agree with that position or not?
As a matter of interest I do not have your personal details and know nothing about your personal identity, work details or whatever. If Auldheid or Canamalar do have these details they have never shared them with me.
I did this (‘why I am not suitable to represent you’)in a recorded delivery letter marked Private and Confidential to Peter Lawwell, and no one else. The letter contains sensitive information, which is why I restricted it to one person.
Incidentally, if the shoe was on the other foot I would (figuratively speaking) have been knocking down PL’s door by this time, and asking to see the letter.
I would also, have made sure I got the wider details of my accuser. Why didn’t you ask your anyone among your wide circle of contacts, Michael Nicholson, Auldheid, Canamalar, has my name, address, email?
In fact, I’ve an open door, and you are welcome to call in. Or, if you want, and given the distance between us, you could ask other(s) to call on your behalf. There would be a warm welcome.
With respect you did at one time suggest or state that I worked for Celtic or the Celtic charity foundation on the blog. I corrected this and you acknowledged as I recall – I expressly pointed out that any involvement I had with he foundation was purely voluntary.
I didn’t say you were professionally involved. My comments were made in a context when you asked us to believe that you didn’t know Michael Nicholson whom you had known previously through your respective legal careers was Celtic Secretary. This is in spite of the fact that he had been in that position for six months and you had been regularly involved with the Celtic Foundation during this time- to the extent you were name-checked in successive Annual Reports.
With regard to Res 12 being walked through treacle, while I note your opinion that this has been at the behest of Auldheid, myself and Canamalar I can only day that you are wrong. There is plenty of evidence that shows we, as individuals, are as frustrated as anyone at the progress the resolution as a whole has made.
We have had some success in that we gained direct access to both the SFA and UEFA and gained some useful information from them before being dispatched with an all too predictable reply – namely that as shareholders and fans we had no locus and as such both organisations were not answerable to mere shareholders.
Of course it follows that both organisations are answers lee to the club’s overall – so the question now begs to be asked whether or not Celtic will make further formal enquiry in light of all of the information that is now known.
None of us know the answer to that at the moment and it is for further discussion during 2017.
I think you will find that this is a more informed position than when the resolution first called before the 2013 AGM. There is still a formal resolution on the table calling for Celtic to ask UEFA for an enquiry and I think far more shareholders are now aware of the details and the issues than at that time.
For the record, I have no time for any strategy that sees Celtic PLC or Celtic Football Club for that matter being run on any basis that involves the “Old firm”. I am aware of the argument and the stated position that a league without Rangers in some form is one which costs Celtic some £10M in funds each season.
Whilst this may be an argument which justifies certain business decisions for some, it is not an argument or a position which I can support and never have. My own position is that the Celtic PLC board could have and should have acted quicker and more imaginatively to fill any revenue gap. This could have been done in any number of ways both off and on the pitch and indeed some of what I am talking about is being done now.
However, nobody on the Celtic Board takes the slightest bit of notice as to what I think because I am not in communication with them and have no knowledge as to what the boards current strategies are other than those which have been publicly announced. I possess no inside info nor have any influence in the business of Celtic. I also do not seek any such info or influence.
In recent weeks I did profer some professional advice about the procedures to follow in relation to a licensed fan zone as this is an area where I worked for 23 years and the information that reached me via Celtic suggested that the club were having their chain yanked by Police Scotland. Given that such Police behaviour is and was only too predictable, I offered some advice as to how to deal with the police position and how to combat it. I believe my take on matters was appreciated but I have no idea if it will be acted on or by whom.
‘I did profer some professional advice’
Are you saying you worked pro bono for the plc? Or, did Celtic pay you?
With all of that said, I would add that I was asked by a number of people to represent the interests of Res 12 at various meetings. I have no calling from God to give up my free time to pursue this, I just personally think it is the right thing to do.
Again I state I have no idea why you think I am not a suitable representative but you are free to reach your own judgement on that though I suspect that your reasoning is based on fundamentally flawed conclusions drawn from inaccurate assessments of the facts.
If the others involved in Res 12 (subscribers, shareholders, or whatever) asked me to stand aside or take no further part I would have no difficulty with that as I genuinely have other things to do with my time and don’t need the grief that some of this stuff brings.
However I think and have always thought that there are serious governance questions that need to be asked of the SFA, UEFA and Celtic. So far the answers are not satisfactory and the only legal body who we can legally force to answer are Celtic PLC.
However, had the resolution originally been voted down by the board then we would not have engaged solicitors and been in formal communication with the football authorities.
You are wholly wrong to suggest that we have deliberately derailed res 12 or sought to slow its progress. Nothing could be further from the truth.
As for my last meeting with Michael Nicholson, this was a relatively brief meeting where I outlined the need for further regular meetings to discuss the impact of events that are yet to unfold in 2017 and to put him on notice that in future those meetings are not likely to be with the four of us who have been involved this far as there is a need to widen the steering group if I can call it that.
Part of that is due to the geographical location of those involved thus far and part of it is that there is a need for more voices and more bodies who can hopefully make things move more quickly.
There is nothing secret in any of that.
I say again that I have no idea why you think I personally am not a suitable representative for shareholders as that has not been disclosed to me.
However, as I have been professionally representing people in various capacities for over 30 years I take great care to be as professional as possible when talking or writing on behalf of others while trying to remain true to my own beliefs and coda. If there is a conflict I have always identified it and simply walked away as that is the professional thing to do.
My letter to Peter Lawwell alludes to the above paragraph.
What I cannot allow you to do is to besmirch my name to others based on unfounded facts or a misconceived understanding of what occurred where or when. I have every right to correct any such inaccuracy or error.
Please desist from doing so. By all means set out your gripes to me in writing and I will reply. If you set out any such inaccuracies to a third party and they are brought to my attention by that third party or anyone else I, again, will not hesitate to set the record straight by the appropriate means.
The only third party is Peter Lawwell. I have taken legal advice. There is nothing defamatory in my letter. Why don’t you ask PL for a copy?
As I said earlier today, I held my own small number of shares at the time of the 2013 AGM and I still hold them (having been persuaded not to sell them at one point by Auldheid and others who were well aware of my disgust at certain aspects of PLC life).
For the avoidance of doubt I will repeat yet again that I am no fan of the PLC structure as it was never ever going to deliver what Fergus McCann said it would in terms of fan representation. Fergus himself was very anti the idea of fan representation at board or any other level (praecepta knows more than most about this) and while the PLC set up was a god vehicle for raising money, transferring ownership from Fergus to myriad buyers it is not and never will be a vehicle that is suited to democratic decision making in terms of fans wishes.
I recognise the PLC for what it is, the board for the role that they play ( sometimes I agree with them, sometimes not ) but in the main the PLC is a foreign country to me as I do not personally believe it is the right mechanism for running s football club.
Others disagree and their view currently holds sway. I respect their opinion and regularly review my own opinion but still maintain my original view.
That is why I never bought any shares in Celtic when they went on offer and never have.
The shares I hold were bought and paid for in my name by my late father because that is what he wanted to do and because he once said that there would come a day when I would choose to speak up about things that I did not agree with or which I wished to influence.
He was way ahead of me in that regard.
This doesn’t answer my question accurately about your shareholding status or the other three representatives of the requisitioners.
BRTH.. I’ve explained as much as I can within my own constraints (not washing our dirty linen in public) and I really think it would be better to take any future discussion off line. Have a good day
BMCUWP,
Thanks for emails of support mate.
I’m very busy today and tmorra, can I get back to you by email later in the week ?
Hopefully ,by then I may have some better news about matters ?
HH.
I’ve no had a drink since Friday in the BV.
I might manage a few on Wednesday, to celebrate gubbing Citeh ?
AULDHEID on 4TH DECEMBER 2016 4:15 PM
TET
Cheers. I don’t care what Celtic supporting credentials KU has, he has been looking for information like Res12 funders (as well as checking out me with the SFM host who disabused him of the idea I was in anyones pocket) that simply could be used to undermine Res12 or endanger those pursuing it.
On that basis I’ve always been wary of him but within those constraints tried to deal with his questions.
‘as well as checking out me with the SFM host’
Auldheid. Again, you have deliberately tweaked what happened there to suit your own argument. The context of the correspondence I had with the SFM host was when he acknowledged receipt of money I had sent towards its appeal fund. He thanked me and in the course of a long, enjoyable discourse about all things football, he stoutly defended your part in the Res 12 …you’re lucky still have such loyal friends.
Your coming across as sweet reason doesn’t wash with me. I don’t forget, it was you who invited me to meet your anonymous donor (Res12 funder), and threatened that he would re-arrange my face, only withdrawing your invitation after I had readily agreed to travel from Donegal and meet with this irate philanthropist.
BIGJIMMY
Anytime,old bean. Good luck!
ART OF WAR on 4TH DECEMBER 2016 10:12 PM
My humble offering for a Tom Rogic song.. To the tune of Pinball Wizard by The Who….
Ever since he was a young bhoy
He played at the fusbol.
But now he’s joined the Celtic
He’s grown 10 feet tall.
Takes on defenders,
can curve it round the wall.
His name is Tommy Rogic
and he sure plays mean football.
whoareyoucsc
—————
He’s an Aussie Wizard
He turns and he twists
An Aussie Wizard
And his name is Tom Rogic
NB Pronounce his surname Rog-itch.
KILL ULTRA
There are a lot of unsubstantiated allegations coming from your part of the world,many of which would have me a little miffed if they were aimed in my direction. Maybe you are indeed best to take the discussion offline.
I’m not a shareholder. But I know a fair few of the Hot 100 who backed the resolution. I think it’s fair to say that you are in a minority in your views.
I agree with you that the process has already taken too long. I’ll be honest and risk the wrath of The Gang of Four when I say that I think they share the responsibility for it.
But that’s because of the resistance they met,time and again,and also because they had to ensure that procedures were followed to the letter,and all information thoroughly checked.
This is too important to lose on a technicality.
PAPAJOE55 can vouch for your credentials,GORDON64 and DOC can vouch for him. So as a guid Tim,please leave them to it. It’s too late to change the timescale,trust them to get it right,and if they don’t,you can say-told you!
HH.
Time for a new article, methinks. Blog putrefication. HH
Modern putrefaction is rubbidge!
ABOUTURNCASE
lol. Should’ve spell checked, or put down the coffee before posting.
Good day to you, sir. HH
Good morning CQN from a cloudy, grey but mild East Devon.
YNWA
Good morning friends from a dry, cold and icy freezy East Kilbride.
AnTS
Sorry mate. Couldn`t resist. It could be worse, some bloke was on here earlier havering about Regicide, our Oz midfielder. That`s where spellchecking can take you. ;>)
ABURNTOUTCASE
Touché!
Blinkin flip,spellcheck at it again,I meant to say
GIRUY(!)
Bobby`s
No smiley hing? sorry if I upset or offended you. Only excuse I can offer you is the extreme conditions here. -10C and still dropping.
ABOUTURNCASE
No need to apologise. The fault entirely mine. Sometimes better not to post than to exhibit one’ frailties.
To the Res12 bhoys, full steam ahead “Persistence Beats Resistence” from all quarters !! HUMANS
Spellchecker running riot. HUMANS=HH
ABURNTOUTCASE
(!) is my own version of it,bud.
Honest.
(!)
Good Morning Kil Ultra.
I agree completely that whatever your point of view it should be taken off line and I repeat that I have offered you an e-mail address on several occasions to write to me with whatever it is you have to say. By all means drop me a line.
I have no intention of contacting Peter Lawwell to request sight of any letter. Nor do I suspect that Mr Lawwell is going to show anyone a letter which is marked as private and confidential. Imagine he did that, would he not be criticised right left and centre for breaking a trust and breaching a confidence. He will rightly take the view that if something is marked confidential to him then it should stay confidential.
I doubt very much he will make the content known to me in such circumstances. I repeat he has not contacted me or had anyone else contact me regarding the content of any letter.
With regard to Michael Nicholson, can I reiterate that many years ago he was on the other side of a court case where his firm represented a client. He is only one of thousands of lawyers my own firm dealt with in similar situations over a period of at least two decades. I have corresponded with many many solicitors, advocates, accountants, surveyors etc over a prolonged period but I don’t know them all well or have any great knowledge of them personally. I am not conscious of meeting him during that period but it is certainly possible, however he is not someone whom at that time I knew well, socialised with or would instantly recognise even.
I had no idea he had left Harper McLeod to become the Company Secretary of Celtic PLC (I didn’t even know he was a Celtic fan) until we met at Celtic Park and I would have had no dealings or communications with him for well over a decade at the time of his appointment. Accordingly, I have no idea what is being suggested about my ever having known of him as it was completely unconnected to any matters to do with Res 12 or my being asked by others to go with Morrissey to that first meeting.
I have never worked for Celtic in any paid or unpaid capacity, nor am I aware of being name checked in any annual reports to do with the foundation. If I have been it will only have been as a volunteer who helps raise funds.
Any business dealings between the foundation and the PLC are conducted by foundation staff and the PLC and does not involve me or any of the others who help out at avrious events.
I have no knowledge of any position which would conflict with the interests of Celtic PLC or its shareholders, especially those who support Res 12.
KU, I can only tell you about what shares I hold and have held, I don’t know about the others and I genuinely don’t see it as my business. The Company Secretary can, and I believe, did check who holds shares and verified that the resolution was backed by the appropriate number of bona fide shareholders.
That is his job.
Beyond that, I can’t really say very much and I am as much in the dark as I was before.
What I can say is that I do not represent you as an individual and never have done. I don’t know your name, your status as a shareholder or anything about you. I have never claimed to represent any individual shareholder not even any group of shareholders for that matter.
I was asked to bring whatever intelligence I had in support of Res 12 and to find a way to advance the aims of the resolution once it had been agreed to adjourn it from the original AGM, and to help find a way to hold the SFA/UEFA to account.
That is it. End of story.
If you want to put anything else to me, ask any questions, put any counter point of view, criticise the way anything has been handled, praise any aspect or say anything else at all by all means drop me a line or even arrange a meeting the next time you are in Glasgow.
Many thanks for the invitation to Donegal, but I am long overdue a visit to friends and relatives in Churchill and Letterkenny, and the next time I am over it will be to see them as opposed to going to any meeting to talk about Celtic, the SFA or anything else related to football.
Dunno if that takes us any further or not.
PAUL67
Can you do summat about the spellcheck on here,please?
Bliddy disgrace,wur aw looking like eejits.
Huh(!)
The brown-shirted-bud-clique….
LOL….
Barrack-room lawyers abound.