Information leaked from Charles Green that he is due to meet Celtic chief executive, Peter Lawwell today. I’ve no idea if it’s true (sooo many wrong steers from over there) but, if accurate, it puts our man in an invidious position. Mr Green appears generous when reviewing the success of meetings.
At his infamous ‘Blood on their hands’ press conference, would-be-pope-of-Ibrox, Brian Kennedy, told us “HMRC will not agree to a CVA until the very last minute”. Why would they? We believe Green has offered £8.5m but he has spoken about having raised £20m. If HMRC are negotiating at all (and I have my doubts) they will want as much of that £20m as possible, and I’m sure they will, as Mr Kennedy suggested, wait until the very last minute before agreeing to anything (they won’t, b.t.w.).
None of this matters to Mr Green, he can say HMRC told him they’ll scrub the debt if he paints the Blue Room pink and no one can contradict him. He is likely to be looking for some comfort from Mr Lawwell but I am sure he will be told that Celtic are unable to support any measure to parachute a Newco into the SPL (after his CVA fails, which it will). Mr Green, who is also trying to maintain the support of the backers needed to commit cash by Friday, will almost certainly emerge from the meeting uttering words like “constructive”, “helpful” or maybe even “very positive”.
He is wasting his time. Words like “sobering”, “alarming” and “downright obstinate” might be closer to the truth.
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3 mick3
i see ernie posted and that should do it……. if you want more info?
CQN’s Pablophanque advised me many years ago to download the free version of antivira, I used it and it worked, I was so happy that I now pay the full price for the all up version.
Zbyszek has also recommended an anti malwayre in the past, cant think of its name yet but it’ll come to me.
Hx2
Is this the latest article?
Podium?
Darn Greens
PODIUM
Hail Hail
NAW………
Busted flush is Mr. Green
Is this meeting happening or not? The whole sorry saga is reading more like a John Le Carre novel each passing day….
HH
:)
I apologise to the podium chasers, I haven’t a clue how Imanaged that, even though if I wanted to then i would primero podium bhoy any day o the week.
Hx2
From last thread.
thomthethim CQN (genuine) Badge Wearer on 28 May, 2012 at 13:03 said:
I once read this definition.
A Patriot is one who loves his country, warts an’ all.
A Nationalist is one who loves his country, with the warts removed.
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bunburybhoy on 28 May, 2012 at 13:04 said:
Or a Brian Rix farce.
I’ll be furious if Peter Lawell gives this joker a minute of Celtics time and by doing so lend him some credibility. No chance.
The Thai Tims were here for about 4 weeks, have been gone about 2 weeks by now which by my calculations means it took that fat d1ddy about 6 weeks to come up with an embarassing ‘gag’ which has just highlighted his bitterness to the nation and provided yet another tumbleweed moment from this charade of a journalist/comedian..or whatever he’s supposed to be.
Says it all really.
HH
Paul67 – I’ve posted elsewhere that I hope there is no truth to Green’s claim of a meeting with Peter Lawwell.
All it would take would be for Green to report afterwards that Celtic were unreasonable & that’s us dragged into the blame game for Rangers’ impending doom.
…….his visit will be choreographed and mocumented like wee nacho’s talks at paradise.
Expect flattering pics of the boul’ Green and provacative headlines that misrepresent the view celtica by all the usual suspects………
I don’t care what spin is put on it … if Peter Lawwell gives this guy even a second of his time today I will fear the worst.
Green owns not even one share at Ibrox. He has as much business meeting the chief executive of Celtic as my next door neighbour does.
There is no reason whatsoever why we should even take his calls. What can be said at a meeting that cannot be conveyed as accurately by refusing him one?
This is why a lot of Celtic fans are suspicious. If Lawwell meets this guy I will be shocked and appalled. It is not right.
Dont believe a word i hear out of the mouths of anyone to do with the huns just now.
In fact even if Duff and Duffer announce the huns have gone into Liquidation, I’ll still head on here, assuming it hasn’t crashed at that point of course :-) for confirmation!
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
Trot on Chas…
I would also hope that Peter Lawell tells green to “do one”
This will be reported by the MSM as big bad peter anway, no matter what
Themightyquinn and Vmhan
Many thanks you can always rely on this place for help even for infrequuent posters like myself. Funny you mentioning Pablo i was just thinking about him earlier and the great times our families had together when we were younger.
Mick
HH
Did the last article by Paul spend the shortest time on CQN as the latest post by Paul?
from previous article and the “joke” from Tam
lads i respect every one of your views
but and it is a big but,
Tams “joke” has been doing the rounds over here for a week or 2
thats all that needs to be said
Paul67
I am no apologist for Cowan but he replied to Celtic Rumours……
06 May 2012 08:47:23
Good morning ed,
After my comment directly to Tam Cowan about his comment he made about the Thai tims I woke up with this response from the man himself.
“Hi *******,
Sincere apologies if you were upset by my line in today’s column.
I can assure you I would never joke about disabled kids – especially as a new father myself.
The line was only a reference to the practice of kids in Asia famously forced to work in sweatshops making sportswear and in no way meant to offend either the kids or, indeed, readers like yourself.
However, as it is most certainly never my intention to offend anyone, I can only offer an apology and, having received two other similar complaints, I shall now be making a sizeable donation to the charity in question.
Apologies again and thanks for your email,
Tam”
Trumped by a quick fire second new article, so desperate measures employed!…
If you missed my heartfelt>/i> charity appeal on the previous article, please have a wee read and consider supporting my efforts.
Thanks in advance for any donations, however small. It all helps.
There are various reports about whether this meeting is today, sometime or never. It all sounds like spin to me.
I would hope Mr Lawwell has better things to do than to meet with someone who might one day own a football club, or perhaps start a new one, or maybe none of the above.
Oops! I messed up the italics with a typo. Doh!
kit,
I am very clear on the reason I want them extinct, your sermon only confuses me about why you open a route back for them as acceptable conditions for their survival. We both know any form of them will carry the same hazard, and continue to allow the establishment to tell the world its a football thing.
Their extinction is the only way foward for scotland, anything else supports the status quo.
I wonder if the huns are enjoying the weather, or is there a big black cloud lingering overhead.
roastin
with all due respect to posters and host since when do us fans really come
in to consideration? i dont know if mr lawell will meet charles green but i would
not be shocked if it did happen after all to quote a famous phrase and it might just
be the right one on this occasion considering the ongoings over on south side
“its just business”
I for one will be amazed if Peter Lawwell meets this guy.
He might as well start writing his resignation letter if he did while agreeing to go easy on a newco so it seems unlikely.
More likely is the need to drag Celtic into their mess so they can blame Celtic for dying so I would hope Peter Lawwell and the Celtic board are smarter than that.
Mr Green says lots and has done throughout his career. How much of it comes to fruition is another matter.
If and it is a huge IF they were to get the dream CVA they have been on about then Celtic have no bearing whatsoever on how they continue – it is their mess and their responsibility. Newco is another matter and Celtic and Peter Lawwell know full well how the Celtic support feel and will vote accordingly should a vote be required.
If Mr Green is on the phone at best to Peter Lawwell he will be told this and given no encouragement. The problem is what comes next – cue Daily Record – Celts block Gers survival headlines.
It is the perfect cover for their failed CVA.
The trick here is to say nothing to Green and wait for your moment Celtic.
So Paul67,
do you think rangers will be succesful with their CVA then? You haven’t really stated your opinion on this………. ;-)
At least Mr Green is trying……
ok very trying …… ah thats better.
Good luck to him if he does meet up with PL as he will be on a hiding to nothing from our oft beleaguered CE (for his penny pinching ways), which admittedly now seems like a decent strategy, anyway the point is….. he’ll get eff all from (Peter) Lawell…… if youre reading PL then I mean that as a compliment.
Hx2
Thanks to Michael Gillen for your generous donation to my charity appeal.
When I first heard Green propose this meeting I thought it was absolute garbage, and felt that the Celtic board would not take kindly to being misrepresented in such a fashion. Allowing Charles Green to send out messages to the Celtic fans, which will be interpreted in a number of manners, without censure or proper context is alarming.
Celtic may have a view on this matter, they may decide to declare that view privately to Charles Green (but not the Celtic fans). This can only lead to further possible misrepresentation.
googybhoy ♥ Celtic and the Lisbon Lions on 28 May, 2012 at 13:14 said:
if thats true – then fair enough, as someone who finds Fankie Boyle funny and thinks he should be free to joke as he like I understand where Tam is comming from – lets not all get permanently hung up on being offended all the time.
Anyway – are the rankers deed yet?
Don’t want to make this all about Tam Cowan, but I gave up listening to Off The Ball for two reasons:
1 Cowan told some joke (can’t remember it now) whose punchline involved someone with missing limbs. Given this was a show about Scottish football there seemed an obvious choice, but he was too scared to do that and opted for Heather Mills instead.
2 Cowan made a joke about famine in Ethiopia.
That was more than enough for me.
PAUL67
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He is wasting his time. Words like “sobering”, “alarming” and “downright obstinate” might be closer to the truth
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Sounds like someone trying to get a pint out of me when it’s not my round.
I trust Peter’s resistance will also be up to scratch. He has never struck me as the type to enjoy being used.