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Strict liability when playing to gallery

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Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.

If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense.  You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.

Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability.  This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.

Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses.  It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.

The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.

Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox

Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer.  He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.

26 miles is a long way to run.  You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.

Good luck, Tommy.

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  5. clunks on

    ACGR

     

     

    WC posts clues every few days.

     

     

    You must work from home………..no way you can walk about in public!

  7. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Roy Croppie, WC has been hinting cryptically for months. If this end up being a body shot to the hun I’ll be very disappointed.

     

     

    Noting short of a head shot is acceptable.

  11. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Clunks, I do work from home some of the time. What relevance does that have to deciphering the cryptic clues from WC?

  13. clogher celt on

    When Stewart Robertson hears the words ‘up to our knees in Fenian Blood’. Does he think of these souls killed by plastic/rubber bullets in the six counties?

     

     

    Does he think of Carol Ann Kelly aged 12 ?Carol Ann died on 22nd May 1981. Two days after been shot in the head while walking from the corner shop, still holding a carton of milk.

     

     

    If you have a chance look at the ages of the victims (Eight of the 17 killed were children. All but one of those killed were Catholics.)

     

     

    Did a Sevco director tell a Scottish journalist that it was a ‘great song ?’

     

     

    Carol Ann’s 35th Anniversary was a few days ago.

     

     

    http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/violence/rubberplasticbullet.htm

  15. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Roy C

     

     

    I love AB loads he is one of the best, the blog has been pretty amazing since Brendan but don’t ever under estimate your contribution that Dallas Dallas guy knows every game since the late 80s so for the new season try and catch him out….. Am afraid your chasing utube but that Dallas guy knows his stuff

  18. clunks on

    ACGR

     

     

    cos if you worked in public you might get arrested!!

     

     

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    A Ceiler Gonof Rust on 28th May 2016 12:28 am

     

     

    Every time WC posts a cryptic clue I get a ragin stauner.

  20. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Cliunks, I’m missing the point in your post that says this “no way you can walk about in public!”

     

     

    Can you expand on that for me please?

  21. roy croppie on

    Well said Clogher. The foot tappers and 90 min bigots as they describe themselves thrive on the putrid bigotry spouted by the ‘klan.’ Was going to say masses but…

     

    They conveniently forget about the consequences of their hate filled frenzy.

  25. clunks on

    A CEILER GONOF RUST on 28TH MAY 2016 12:54 AM

     

    Cliunks, I’m missing the point in your post that says this “no way you can walk about in public!”

     

     

     

    Can you expand on that for me please?

     

     

    ——–

     

     

    yes mate, calm the beans I was not having a go.

     

     

    You said you got a raging stauner when WC dropped hints about the impending doom f the huns.

     

     

    WC has been dropping these with increasing frequency over that last few weeks,

     

     

    Getting a raging stauner has, in my experience, impacted my ability to walk about in public……..

     

     

    Hence my post

  26. Gerryfaethebrig on

    12.47am

     

     

    Clogher people who hate don’t stop hating……whatever Hun can and kid on they don’t hate

     

     

    …. But their hatred will be their downfall (again)

  27. Mea Culpa on

    What Robertson fails to recognise (nor evidently understand) is that the mentality behind the chanting of the BBs, that overwhelming sense of entitlement, superiority and embittered hatred drives the violent response by the Sevco fans.

     

     

    As I recall, some years ago, Wembley stadium was awash with Scottish fans after Scotland had just beaten England. The Scottish fans were ‘sticking it’ to the English fans that day.

     

    I don’t recall the English fans rushing onto the park to fight. If the goading by fans justifies the counter invasion, what happened that day?

     

     

    The goading by the Hibs fans did not cause the violent response by the Sevco fans. It may have precipitated events but the underlying fuel was already smouldering. It was the deep-seated hatred which is constantly fed by the club, media and Scottish society.

     

    The constant condoning of the violent behaviour of the Sevco fans by a compliant media, football and legal authorities through their failure to condemn and punish their actions led to the violent events.

     

    The pitch invasion itself was harmless. It was the respondent counter invasion which was violent.

     

     

    Unfortunately, because the SFA and Police are filled with Sevconian thinkers, they fail to recognise their own part in fuelling the events.

     

     

    Before you can solve a problem, you have to recognise the problem exists. Until Scottish society fully acknowledges the truth of this underlying disease, it will never be addressed and these events will continue to happen.

     

     

    Mr Robertson should have condemned the singing, the Hibs fans invasion, the Sevco fans invasion and most of all, the statements made by his own club which have simply reinforced that sense of entitlement and hatred within the core Sevco support.

     

     

    Thank you Mr Robertson, the next time your club’s supporters go on the rampage you have played your part.

  29. clunks on

    acgr

     

     

    does that explain why I thought it might be ‘hard’ for you to walk about in public?

  31. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Clunks, ignore my last post. I’m suspicions of everyone and everybody.

     

     

    I need to adopt a more “bitch be cool” Samuel L Jackson approach.

     

     

    I’m trying really really hard…………………………………:_)

  33. sipsini on

    clunks…

     

     

    Thank feck Acgr didn’t have a spell check blunder on his post…

     

     

    You said you got a raging stauner when WC dropped” hints “about the impending doom f the huns.:)

  35. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Roy C

     

    12.47

     

     

    I just like Celtic, one of my first league cup games (j was 11) I mentioned Willie Garrner scored, Dallas went on to namer the scorers and the subs

  38. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Clunks…………………………………..x

     

     

    Sorry,

     

     

    acgr is a fanny who sometimes gets hold of the end of the stick that doesn’t have the shit on it and wonders where the shit is.

     

     

     

    HH Bruv

  40. boabyevans on

    Work work work soo many hours haven’t had a chance to read back but if anything of importance please let me know I love the the way Der hun is hurting time for some swally

  42. clunks on

    David

     

     

    Are you sure?

     

     

    You have to go thru the initiation, even if you deny it in your first post. Dont be offended

     

     

    David1958, are you a hun?

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