Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.
If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense. You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.
Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability. This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.
Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses. It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.
The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.
Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox
Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer. He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.
26 miles is a long way to run. You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.
Good luck, Tommy.
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Chavez,
So the he/she/it, claim that,
“Jimmy said it was okay.”
Bites the dust.
Indeedy, Clogher. Interesting to see what Celtic’s statement will say…
How can someone like Michael O’Hallaran play in front of many thousands of fans who constantly shout about Fenian Bastards?
Now I know it’s down to money – but at what point does one’s self-respect kick in?
To play for people who hate your upbringing and religion is not sustainable – in my opinion.
MATS NILLOC on 27TH MAY 2016 2:11 PM
How can someone like Michael O’Hallaran play in front of many thousands of fans who constantly shout about Fenian Bastards?
Now I know it’s down to money – but at what point does one’s self-respect kick in?
To play for people who hate your upbringing and religion is not sustainable – in my opinion.
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Kind of answered you own question, bud. However it also reminds me of the great Grouch Marx quote : “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others…”
NATKNOW on 27TH MAY 2016 2:17 PM
MATS NILLOC on 27TH MAY 2016 2:11 PM
I would imagine to be a professional footballer is to spend half your life having abuse shouted at you. So they probably just get used to tuning out the noise and concentrating on the game.
Good luck Bundoran Bhoy
Ironically in my childhood I spent many a ‘twelfth weekend’ running to Bundoran to avoid the crimplene boy soldiers and their associated klan nonsense on what they ironically called the ‘holiday season’..
Seems irony is a core competence..
Big Wavy
WEEMINGER on 27TH MAY 2016 2:21 PM
NATKNOW on 27TH MAY 2016 2:17 PM
MATS NILLOC on 27TH MAY 2016 2:11 PM
I would imagine to be a professional footballer is to spend half your life having abuse shouted at you. So they probably just get used to tuning out the noise and concentrating on the game.
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Possibly. Though not everyone would think all noise is the same. Plenty of footballers I can think of who would opt not to play for the huns. In different noises are contained different sentiments and meanings..
More straightforward for Murray today. Through to the 4th round in straight sets.
HH
Chavez,
Interesting indeed. I’ll send a couple of letters to Sevco sponsors at the weekend highlighting my concerns regarding the direction of the Board at Sevco in respect of sectarian chanting and it’s negative effects upon society and implications for the sponsors.
Bigotry and racism in sport should be confronted at all levels.
Offski to the beach !
Is O’Halleron a practising Catholic or foes he not give a monkies?
foes = does
What’s become of the broken hatted,
Who had lost but is now departed…..
jimmyruffincsc
PHILBHOY on 27TH MAY 2016 2:40 PM
Is O’Halleron a practising Catholic or foes he not give a monkies?
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I wouldn’t know if he practices his religion but he does play for hun monkeys :)
True!
afternoon champions……do you think the Hun would fall for a 50 foot tall Goat parked ootside there Stadium…..with the wee sleekit pieman and cohorts inside…..???
ibet they wid poo it inside……hahaha
funnydreamscfc
braw.
Joe Allen spotted at Road Chef Hamilton:)))
He’ll be signing for the huns then.
PHILBHOY
Aye’s got a pair of rosary beads and Pope Rocks T-shirt:))
MATS NILLOC on 27TH MAY 2016 2:11 PM
How can someone like Michael O’Hallaran play in front of many thousands of fans who constantly shout about Fenian Bastards?
Now I know it’s down to money – but at what point does one’s self-respect kick in?
To play for people who hate your upbringing and religion is not sustainable – in my opinion.
Never heed O’Hallaran. DD thinks THEIR wonderful.
Though the huns might be deid
I won’t get skelfs in my heid
get skelfs in my heid
cos I don’t have a wooden hat…….
or
If the Sevco are deid
i’ll go back to baking breid
back to baking breid
cos I’ve still got my bakers hat….
Elviswarbiola csc.
Stupid question, perhaps, but what’s the origins of the “magic hat” term that seems to be associated with Warbuton?
CuriousCFC
NATKNOW on 27TH MAY 2016 2:17 PM
MATS NILLOC on 27TH MAY 2016 2:11
Now I know it’s down to money – but at what point does one’s self-respect kick in?
To play for people who hate your upbringing and religion is not sustainable – in my opinion.
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Kind of answered you own question, bud. However it also reminds me of the great Grouch Marx quote : “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others…”
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Celtic as a club are open to all. That is exactly how it should be.
However did we not have a debate on here a few weeks ago about one of our players. Maybe a different country and nationality but let’s be careful guys.
Please do not restart that debate but it’s worth thinking about.
HH.
O Halloran.
We all practice a little give and take sometime.
In this case, he knows that the fans will rush to his aid should he ever be assaulted by any other Fenian bassa.
It is club policy now, it seems.
IKI on 27TH MAY 2016 3:19 PM
Cheaper than paying for stewards.
GREENPINATA on 27TH MAY 2016 3:14 PM
NATKNOW on 27TH MAY 2016 2:17 PM
MATS NILLOC on 27TH MAY 2016 2:11
Now I know it’s down to money – but at what point does one’s self-respect kick in?
To play for people who hate your upbringing and religion is not sustainable – in my opinion.
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Kind of answered you own question, bud. However it also reminds me of the great Grouch Marx quote : “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others…”
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Celtic as a club are open to all. That is exactly how it should be.
However did we not have a debate on here a few weeks ago about one of our players. Maybe a different country and nationality but let’s be careful guys.
Please do not restart that debate but it’s worth thinking about.
HH.
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No idea what you mean mate? We’re talking about O’Halloran playing for sevco and listening to their songs of hate – and how comfortable (or otherwise) he may feel with that. Nothing to do with Celtic.
Call me Gerry on 27th May 2016 3:08 pm
Stupid question, perhaps, but what’s the origins of the “magic hat” term that seems to be associated with Warbuton?
CuriousCFC
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They stole it from the Brentford fans.
Sorry, ‘bought the history’ of it…
Chavez – if I’m reading that Offshore Game stuff correctly, it looks like UEFA will impose a 3/4 year ban on Sevco competing in Europe.
Their only defence can be that the transgressions were committed by a different club.
Winning Captain’s cryptic messages are starting to make sense.
A new Head of Performance appointed Glen Driscoll, seems very experienced is this a new role or has someone moved on?
Well I must say that Brendan id not letting the grass grow under his feet – Glen Driscoll now added to Chris Davies – like the way he is going about his business – a good omen for the future.
DESSYBHOY
I would guess at Jim McGuinness moving on, although his post was part-time.
Well, that’s my daughter over in Dublin with her boyfriends family for a Holy Communion at the weekend.
Asked her to sort me and my son out with a mother and daughter for when we go over for the Celtic v Barca game :))
Patrick Roberts left out of England squad so he can play for Celtic in CL qualifiers…
StarrySlowNews…
Burgas Hoops
Thanks we didnt get to hear or see much of Jim McGuinness
A mention for Rodgers in Jamie Carragher column,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3612711/Jose-Mourinho-box-office-serial-winner-change-way-playing-Manchester-United.html
MAN OF THE WEEK – BRENDAN RODGERS
Eyebrows will have been raised in some quarters about his decision to re-launch his managerial career in Scotland but, from Celtic’s point of view, this is a major coup.
Their last two appointments were Ronny Deila, who arrived unheralded from Norwegian side Stromsgodset, and Neil Lennon, who was taking his first job in management, so to recruit someone who two years ago took Liverpool to within two points of the title shows how well Celtic have done.
The feeling in Glasgow is this appointment rivals that of Martin O’Neill in 2000 but for Rodgers — who has agreed a 12-month rolling contract — to be remembered in similarly glowing terms, winning the Scottish Premier League won’t be enough if he wants to come south again and fight for trophies.
What sets O’Neill apart is his achievements in Europe in 2002-2003, when Celtic knocked the Liverpool team I played in out of the UEFA Cup en route to facing Jose Mourinho’s Porto in a final they dramatically lost 3-2.
O’Neill was able to sign players such as Chris Sutton and John Hartson from the Premier League but Rodgers recognises he won’t be buying from that market, as it’s difficult for Scottish clubs to buy top-level players from England. That, of course, is a negative but Rodgers didn’t let it influence his decision. He wanted to get back to work and is excited about the idea of trying to put what is undoubtedly a huge club back on the map in Europe.
I’ve played at Parkhead under the floodlights and sat in the stands for Champions League games against Ajax and Barcelona.
It’s an unbelievable stadium when it is bouncing and I know from experience Celtic have got a very good manager to get them what they want.
Head of Performance appointed Glen Driscoll
Err, better take those chips back off the menu.
WHOOOOA!
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sonppj
Masty…
A good read from a good bloke, I’ll pass it on. HH
The Tim Reaper
You all sorted for Monday?
HH
CRC