Strict liability when playing to gallery

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Being responsible is not always easy, especially when it comes to running a football club, where playing to the gallery offers vastly better short-term returns, and no doubt a rush of endorphins.

If your fans are engaged in an activity which regularly brings them to the attention of the courts, and your club into disrepute, it doesn’t matter what you think of the apparent offense.  You may chant an offending song in the shower every morning month, but your only public comment on the matter can be to chastise and urge fans to desist.

Clubs in Scotland voted against what is known as strict liability.  This means they are not held responsible for transgressions by their fans – and who wants to be held responsible for the actions of others who protected from personal liability by hiding in a crowd.

Part of the deal on not having strict liability is that clubs must demonstrate that they take all steps necessary to dissuade and educate their fans from carrying out criminal or regulatory offenses.  It’s simply not possible for club to tell fans their illegal actions were justified, as this would place the club itself in the firing line.

The nonsense following the Scottish Cup final is all background noise as far as we are concerned, but be aware the contagion will spread beyond those you could consider highly dysfunctional operators.

Solving Kids Cancer in memory of Oscar Knox

Our own Bundoran Bhoy will run the Edinburgh Marathon on Sunday on behalf of Solving Kids Cancer.  He has put in an enormous amount of work ahead of the event, for a cause which you are only too familiar with.

26 miles is a long way to run.  You can give him some encouragement on his Just Giving page.

Good luck, Tommy.

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  1. TheBarcaMole on

    Late but energised. Thanks PJBHOYNYC.

     

    And yes, Ian Fraser deserves recognition.

     

    Good Night, God Bless.

     

     

    Regards & Hail Hail

     

    TBM

  2. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MACJAY 157

     

     

    You got sumdy else writing yer scripts for you now(!)

  3. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    God bless the wee purple fella. He was a tim for sure

     

     

    Yes Lisa…………………………………………..

  4. Good morning friends.

     

     

    It really is a Heaven on Earth scene here in East Kilbride this morning with the warm sun splitting a cloudless sky, hardly a breath of wind, and plenty of happy birdsong.

  5. Jobo

     

    Shropshire already bathed in glorious sunshine. Been a hot weekend.

     

    I’m heading up to Scotland on the 7th for a week, hang on to that sunshine for me please!

  6. BMCUW, you have mail.

     

    Has Suarez signed yet:-)

     

    Anyone see the Wimbledon penalty taker yesterday? He with the un pronounceable name?

     

    The beast to his friends I believe.

     

    Watching him grab the ball off the guy who wanted to take it, and arguing with him, reminded me of us as kids playing in the park.

     

    Taker was generally decided in order of:

     

    Best fighter

     

    Or

     

    Best Player

     

    Or

     

    Whose baw it was

     

     

    I guess the beast is the best fighter.

  7. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 31ST MAY 2016 5:24 AM

     

    MACJAY 157

     

     

     

    You got sumdy else writing yer scripts for you now(!)

     

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    Nah, mate.

     

    Can`t find the quality these days.

     

    Waiting for C.C.B. to return to the bower so I can put him straight on the leaderene.

     

    :-)

  8. AN TEARMANN @ 3:05 AM,

     

     

    Well, that was my way of thinking, don’t have time to dig out the clause and the wording, on the the gace of it gives the SFA carte blanche

  9. Apologies for the premature post…

     

     

    AN TEARMANN @ 3:05 AM,

     

     

    Well, that was my way of thinking, don’t have time to dig out the clause and the wording, on the the face of it gives the SFA carte blanche.

     

     

    But I believe this was certainly a route worth pursuing the SFA on.

     

     

    Especially as their stated reason for transfering membership was to allow recompense for Rangers FC PLC football liabilities. Which of course has been a total fudge.

     

     

    I’m doing fine BTW, hope all’s good with you…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MACJAY

     

     

    That will be like lighting blue touchpaper attached to a tanker of nitro-glycerine,trust me.

     

     

    My opinions of her are much less vitriolic than those of my Dad. Just saying,like…

  11. Morrisey23- sorry for missing you out last night. Revisionism eh? :-)

     

     

    Very late in the day but did anyone write to the 23 (? ) clubs that were banned from UEFA competition the very same year the uglies got their golden ticket?

     

     

    Bet Res12 gets their attention.

  12. Morning all. Tomorrow shaping up nicely for this tim. Res 12 goes live and the boss at hampdump. Can’t wait.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    KTF

     

     

    UTLR

  13. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    ARTOFWAR

     

     

    They’d all apply to join the masons and the SFA/SPFL!

  14. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MIGHTYTIM

     

     

    Enjoy yer day in Boss company,bud.

     

     

    I suspect some of The Rutherglen Massive might be in attendance…

  15. BMCUW looking forward to it M. Me the Mrs and 2 daughters going. Met one of the massive a couple of weeks back at a play about James Connolly big Gordon 64 really nice big fellah. 1st time I met him was at your hootenany . I hope all is good in swindon mate. You heading home anytime soon.

     

     

    HH

     

     

    KTF

     

     

    UTLR

  16. Apparently 46k season books renewed or sold in upper tiers already , still another day before public sale , astonishing if true,

  17. Mighty Tim – Wembley 85/6 he was awesome.

     

    Ticket for the first night, climbed a drainpipe 2nd night :-)

     

     

    3 hours of magic. Enjoy.

  18. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 31ST MAY 2016 7:37 AM

     

    MACJAY

     

     

     

    That will be like lighting blue touchpaper attached to a tanker of nitro-glycerine,trust me.

     

     

     

    My opinions of her are much less vitriolic than those of my Dad. Just saying,like…

     

     

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    He raised the subject with me some time back .

     

     

    I waited in vain for him to be “on” before doing him the courtesy of a reply.

     

     

    Mate.

     

    Dinnae fache yersel.

  19. Masty – TRFC are reporting 25k the other day, and that is as stark a way of showing why they’ll never catch us as any.

  20. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MACJAY

     

     

    You have to be good to catch him,he’s a hit-and-run poster. And as a big stranger to a keyboard,it would be unfair to expect a debate similar to that you would get in person.

     

     

    But,he disnae lose many,so be warned.

     

     

    Having said that,my appreciation and tolerance of opposing views comes from him,so expect it to be conducted in good humour. Even as the knife goes in and the boot to the hawmaws is dispatched!

  21. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MIGHTYTIM

     

     

    My intention was to be home late August for my Mum’s,erm,50th birthday. But as she isnae having a party,I doubt I’ll be there for it.

     

     

    I reckon the parents will eff off somewhere for it,so I don’t want to be a fly in the ointment.

     

     

    So…

     

     

    It will be my usual Autumn trip,but I promise I won’t be going through any turnstiles. I know the rules,why tempt fate.

     

     

    I mean,if we canny beat Morton or Hamilton,I should just accept my early-season jinx status!

     

     

    See ya then,bud!

     

     

    HH.

     

     

    Btw,delighted to hear you renewed. Good man,guid and Mighty Tim.

  22. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    Bobby.

     

     

    I know his son.

     

    That`s good enough for me.

     

     

    Incidentally.

     

    I don`t try to win or lose. I enjoy the discussion and considering alternative viewpoints and the use of persuasion.

     

    Honest .

     

    :-)

     

     

    P.L. for King.

  23. BMCUW

     

     

    This is an extract from the Scotsman Rumour Mill.

     

    You might get a chance to see Celtic reserves regularly:-

     

     

     

     

    “Swindon open to Celtic link up

     

     

    Swindon Town manager Luke Williams sees no reason why a relationship can’t be formed between them and Celtic.

     

     

    A number of Liverpool players dispatched to the Wiltshire club when he was manager of the Anfield side. (Swindon Advertiser)

  24. Anyone know why the

     

    Persistence beats Res12tance page does not come up?

     

    I keep getting an error 404 page not found.

     

     

    Eurochamps67

  25. Do we contractionally need to set aside 7k tickets for the rotten mob? If not just keep selling and give them the least we need to

  26. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    SETTINGFREETHEBEARS

     

     

    I read it overnight,it was the main sports story in our paper.

     

     

    It stems really from two things.

     

     

    1-Liverpool lent Swindon-who rely heavily on such signings-a few players last season.

     

     

    2-This is probably because Brendan’s son Anton plays for Swindon. I hope he stays with them for a while,builds his reputation and makes a good career for himself.

     

     

    Local legend Phil King rates him highly. So-no Fresh Fields and a season lasting longer than May to December,everyone’s a winner.

     

     

    Do I win contrived post of the year?