Fraser Forster watched Joe Hart cost England a goal for the second game in four at the Euros last night and must wonder what he needs to do to become first choice. Playing better than his rival clearly isn’t enough.
Hart is a good goalkeeper, he does well for long periods of every season and makes fantastic saves, but he goes through error-prone periods. There’s a reason the world’s top clubs are linked with Manchester United’s goalkeeper but no one is linked with City’s. By contrast, Fraser is also a good keeper, who makes fantastic saves, without the errors.
More goes on in football than you will ever read about. The money involved in commercial deals, for a start. You don’t just get a flat fee when you sign up, there’s significant bonuses if you appear at international tournaments.
One former international manager told me a highly-decorated player failed to declare an injury (apart from to his team-mates) until after he played 45 minutes of a tournament. His team lost their opening game, while his sponsor was contracted to pay an appearance bonus which ran to many tens of thousands.
Players look after each other in this respect. If your pal is in line to earn, what for most of us would be a life changing amount of money if he keeps his place, would you make it clear to the manager you want him in the team? This happens – take my word for it.
Football team dynamics often afford a clique of senior players significant influence. They don’t need to be so brazen as to tell the manager who to pick, but they can be just as explicit in letting it be known who they ‘have faith in’. Each other, usually.
The shampoo man should have been dropped after the Wales game but I am sure his pals would have made it clear how much confidence they have when he’s in goal. The manager is then a hostage to fortune, drop a floundering keeper and give players cause to cite a confidence blow, or try to keep everyone happy and hope the hopeless handler doesn’t have a howler.
I could write screeds on why teams full of stars often fail, but I’d need to redact all the evidence as the best stories in football are all off the record.
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Catman-keep up the good work HH
O.G.RAFFERTY on 28TH JUNE 2016 11:47 AM
Corkcelt
http://www.irishnews.com/news/2016/06/28/news/veteran-republicans-stan-corrigan-and-sea-n-mcveigh-buried-a-day-apart-581574/
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I would be interested if anyone has links to the art of Sean.
Looks like a poacher from that youtube vid
R.I.P Sean
A full life .
freebird
very young striker, …………
15 minutes into his first game and someone will highlight his em, deficiencies
Catman
Well done big man!
I can also see why interest in Shane Duffy. If he is playing alongside Erik, there is Just a wee niggling question about pace in European ties…Unless Brendan is going with 3 at the back in Europe?
Keep them coming!
CORKCELT
I just googled him based on your posts and that Irish News piece popped up.
So thank you
Corkcelt
A very moving tribute to someone who was prepared to take a stand for his community despite the personal cost involved.
Words like “hero” are casually thrown around these days, but Sean was the real thing.
I never had the chance to me him in person but would be extremely grateful if you could use your good offices to pass on my sincerest condolences to his family and friends on their sad loss.
RIP
HH
Interesting ‘dialogue’ with an unhappy Spur plonker who thought it was their 28 year old Moussa Dembele bought for £15m we were getting for half a million.
He ranted we were “a club that hasn’t got a pot to piss in” and I responded “But does have a European Cup in the trophy cabinet – rather impressive pot !” and didn’t hear from him again. Funny that ?
any of the icelanders want to experience celtic park ?
i would sign any of them.
esp the number 8 from last night.
Spare a thought for Joe Hart – the poor guy felt so bad, he tried to throw himself under a train. Sadly for Joe, the train went underneath him.
KINGLuBO
So sad to hear about the death of Sean McVeigh. I was in his class at school and when we had to choose a class song he suggested ‘Sean South’ which we all agreed to. Good lad RIP.
Just off the ol’ Youtube there.
Dembelé certainly looks the part, with the rare attribute of being two footed.
He seems to possess good positional sense, in and around the box.
With his pace and dribbling ability, he should be a good acquisition.
Shane Duffy had a good Euro tournament. A no nonsense ball attacking centre half, who is a menace in, for a change, the opposition’s penalty box.
For me, one aspect of our qualifying failure, was our lack of stamina to see out games. Happened in domestic games too.
Players were blowing out of the wrong end of their bodies.
I have a funny feeling that won’t be the case this year.
EMBRAMIKE SAYS “THE HUNS ARE DEID” on 28TH JUNE 2016 1:53 PM
I saw that Twitter exchange.
Well answered.
I would have thought that Spurs’ fans would be lying low today, as their players featured heavily in uniting Europe in common cause.
I’m not going for 3 in a row, as I don’t seek the attention.
Te hehehehe
http://talkingbaws.com/2016/06/celtic-fan-has-a-dig-at-rangers-with-update-on-moussa-dembeles-wikipedia-page/
I hope he’s as fast as the guy who updated his Wiki page
http://talkingbaws.com/2016/06/celtic-fan-has-a-dig-at-rangers-with-update-on-moussa-dembeles-wikipedia-page/?
God rest MacAnBheatha
RIP Sean
According to the BBC!
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36652940
jc2 on 28th June 2016 1:05 pm
Wee Patrick was at Fulham before Man City so
no doubt played with Moussa before
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Was just wondering about that.
Patrick must be enjoying it then, if he has given the thumbs up.
I see the SMSM are reading CQN again
aint that right Rhaman :)))))
its a moothful but …………..
to the artur boruc tune ………..
oh mousaaa dembele ,,,,,,,,,,, he hates the huns
Fraser Forster is Head & Shoulders above Joe Hart.
JJ on about the zimmer signings at the asbestos old folks home :))
https://johnjamessite.com/2016/06/28/dads-army/
Sad, pathetic clowns who no doubt pretend to be Celtic fans are front page news in the Greenock Telegraph with a full page story inside. These idiotic individuals have sprayed a wall in Inverclyde with green paint and a reference to the Ibrox disaster. When will we ever rid ourselves of this sort of insanity? At ever opportunity we should tell these people we have no wish for the good name of Celtic to be destroyed by their mindless behaviour.
Croppybhoy,
Gearóid spoke to the family at the wake and gave her Mass Cards from CQN’ers, I believe they are well aware of the feelings on this site and are no doubt reading the posts here.
On that subject by far the best post was written by Kev J , 2 or 3 days ago. He rightly received widespread praise for it but surprisingly hasn’t posted since.
Drom Dembele’s Wikipedia Page.
Club career[edit]
Dembélé signed for Fulham aged sixteen, in August 2012, from Paris Saint-Germain,[2] with other clubs interested in signing him.[3] He became a regular in the Fulham U18 team and won the Premier Academy League in his first season with the club.[3] He signed his first contract with Fulham in July 2013 until the summer of 2015.[3]. In June 2016 he was voted as the greatest young player in the world, and on 28th June he signed for Celtic. He has also been known to be a massive Celtic fan and Irish republican. He actively supports Sinn Féin and has called for a border poll on Irish unity.
CAtman
Not only is your information from the top drawer but the Muse is also upon you:
” Shane Duffy is in the brick shithouse mould. ” !
Much as I like classy footballers, I do like a tough, straightforward central defender.
JJ
If we do sign Moussa, will we be playing 4 4 2 or 3 5 3 ?
If the former, Brendan is going to earn his corn in selection alone.
SCULLYBHOY
Hail hail.
Gotta love the beeb –
“Dembele poised to replace Scepovic”!
HOT SMOKED on 28TH JUNE 2016 2:24 PM
if we play 3-5-3 are we playing with a backie ??
67ECW
Stefan Scepovic leaves Celtic for Getafe in £1m switch
By PA Sport
Last Updated: 28/06/16 1:33pm
Stefan Scepovic scored six goals in 26 games at Celtic
Stefan Scepovic’s ill-fated stay at Celtic is over after the Serbia international’s loan at Getafe was made permanent.
The 26-year-old has signed a four-year deal with the La Liga outfit, with the fee reported at £1m.
A statement on Getafe’s website read: “Getafe CF, SAD has executed the purchase option on the player which was set in his loan contract from Glasgow Celtic. The player signed with the club for the next four seasons.”
The striker’s departure from Parkhead comes as no surprise as new Hoops boss Brendan Rodgers continues to clear out his squad ahead of his summer recruitment.
To a Louse
“o wad some pow’r the giftie gie us
to see oorsels as ithers see us!”
Match of interest tonight as our possible 2nd round CL opponents play their first leg …
Flora Tallinn v Lincoln Red Imps at 18:00
So sorry to hear of the sad news about Sean. May He rest in Peace.
He was a hero to many, not least to his loving family.
He was also a very brave Bhoy.
Corkcelt
Many thanks for that information, as I’m now officially on holiday I’ll take some time to go back over the last few days to read the post you have mentioned
HH
Hot Smoked
Brendan has tried a lot of different formations. Tends to vary things to suit the players he has and the opposition. Expect we might see that here too.
Not sure he’d get away with a 3-5-3 mind :-)
Check Dembeles wiki page –
]. In June 2016 he was voted as the second greatest young player in the world, second only to the age defying Kenny Miller who – despite being 37 – was entered into the vote for being “young at heart”. On 28th June he signed for Celtic. He has also been known to be a massive Celtic fan and Irish republican. He actively supports Ronny Delia as the former Celtic manager embarks on a career as a shop assistant at Phones4U. He has called for a border poll on Irish unity.