Dundee United chairman Stephen Thompson’s comments to yesterdays’ Herald are worthy of attention. During the summer, when United received a £1m bid from Rangers for David Goodwillie and Blackburn Rovers were hovering, Bank of Scotland, took an active part in the deliberations. Thompson told the Herald, “The bank wanted me to take £1.2m for him, but I said no to that. I had to stand up against the bank.”
Thompson more than doubled the money on offer for Goodwillie, allowing him to shave over £2m off their bank debt, but this exchange took place only a few months after the same bank told former Rangers chairman, Alastair Johnston, to accept the bid for the club from Motherwell born thousandaire Craig Whyte or the bank would demand same-day repayment of Rangers borrowings.
Bank of Scotland, part of Lloyds Banking Group (LBG), are significantly exposed to Scottish football and required a taxpayer bail-out two years ago, so although their interference in the running of clubs could seem overbearing, we shouldn’t be surprised at it. It’s business, and if you are employed at LBG with a responsibility to your taxpayer-shareholder, it’s necessary business.
Fortunately, Celtic are free from such interference, as are Rangers, thanks to their aforementioned benefactor, but if a liquidation event at a large club threatened income streams to the league I would be amazed if the Bank didn’t use the ‘Vote Newo FC into the SPL or repay your borrowings immediately’ line.
Stephen Thompson, who sits on the SPL board, might not have a choice on whether or not to vote a Newco FC into the SPL ahead of 30 Scottish Football League clubs, but he and his fellow board members will be able to set the tariff on any exceptional league entry to what would become a financially privileged football franchise.
12 seasons of cumulative benefit from financial mis-dealings should result in 12 seasons of penury at whatever points rate the league calculate benefit was accrued. For one scenario I have in mind, around 15 points per season sounds fair, with an expunging from the records of any trophies ‘won’ by Financial Doping.
This is measured, deliverable, is in the power of the SPL board to impose, and sets a minimum moral hazard to inhibit future mis-deeds.
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I heard on the radio this morning that weather forecasters in Africa (I think it was South Africa) can be imprisoned if they get the weather forecast wrong, sentences can be as much as 10yrs.
I wonder if that’s the reason behind the animosity to weather reports on CQN :¬)
Vinny
you really need to read the article in the Record under the headline “Rangers boss Ally McCoist closing in on £1.5m Swedish playmaker”
It’s a tearjerker.
UC
The general synopsis at midnight
Low south finland 968 expected Estonia 986 by midnight tonight. High northeast Fitzroy 1036 expected East Anglia 1033 by same time
Viking
Gale warning issued 12 January 21:52 UTC
Northwesterly severe gale force 9 continuing
Wind Northwesterly 6 to gale 8, occasionally severe gale 9 at first, backing southwesterly 4 or 5.
Sea State High, becoming rough.
Weather Squally wintry showers at first.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
North Utsire
Gale warning issued 12 January 21:52 UTC
Northwesterly severe gale force 9 continuing
Wind Northwesterly 6 to gale 8, occasionally severe gale 9 at first, becoming variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Very rough or high, becoming rough.
Weather Squally wintry showers at first.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
South Utsire
Gale warning issued 12 January 10:01 UTC
Northwesterly storm force 10 now decreased severe gale force 9
Wind Northwesterly 6 to gale 8, occasionally severe gale 9 at first.
Sea State Very rough or high, becoming rough.
Weather Squally wintry showers at first.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Forties
Gale warning issued 12 January 21:52 UTC
Northwesterly severe gale force 9 continuing
Wind Northwesterly 6 to gale 8, occasionally severe gale 9 at first, becoming variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Very rough or high, becoming rough.
Weather Squally wintry showers at first.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Cromarty
Wind Northwest 5 to 7, becoming variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Rough or very rough, becoming moderate or rough.
Weather Mainly fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Forth
Wind Northwest 5 to 7, becoming variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Rough or very rough, becoming moderate or rough.
Weather Mainly fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Tyne
Wind Northwest 5 to 7, becoming variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Rough or very rough, becoming moderate or rough.
Weather Mainly fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Dogger
Gale warning issued 12 January 10:01 UTC
Severe gale force 9 veering northwesterly and decreasing gale force 8 imminent
Wind Northwest 5 to 7, occasionally gale 8 at first, becoming variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Rough or very rough, becoming moderate or rough.
Weather Mainly fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Fisher
Gale warning issued 12 January 16:03 UTC
Storm force 10 now veered northwesterly and decreased severe gale force 9
Wind Northwest 6 to gale 8, occasionally severe gale 9 at first, decreasing 4 or 5 at times later.
Sea State Very rough or high, becoming moderate or rough.
Weather Squally wintry showers at first.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
German Bight
Gale warning issued 12 January 10:01 UTC
Severe gale force 9 veering northwesterly and decreasing gale force 8 imminent, increasing severe gale force 9 later
Wind Northwest 6 to gale 8, occasionally severe gale 9 at first, decreasing 4 or 5 at times later.
Sea State Very rough or high, becoming moderate or rough.
Weather Squally wintry showers at first.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Humber
Wind North or northwest 5 to 7, becoming variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Moderate or rough, occasionally very rough at first in northeast.
Weather Mainly fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Thames
Wind North or northwest 5 to 7, becoming variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Mainly fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Dover
Wind Variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Slight or moderate, occasionally smooth.
Weather Fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Wight
Wind Variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Slight or moderate, occasionally smooth.
Weather Fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Portland
Wind Variable 3 or 4, becoming east or southeast 5 at times.
Sea State Slight or moderate, occasionally smooth.
Weather Fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Plymouth
Wind Variable 3 or 4, becoming east or southeast 5 at times.
Sea State Slight or moderate, occasionally smooth.
Weather Fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Biscay
Wind Variable 3 or 4, becoming east or southeast 5 at times.
Sea State Slight or moderate, occasionally smooth.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Trafalgar
Wind Variable 3 or 4, but easterly 5 or 6 at first in far southeast.
Sea State Smooth or slight, but moderate at first in far north.
Weather Fair.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Trafalgar forecast issued 13 January 00:15 UTC
FitzRoy
Wind Mainly easterly or southeasterly 4 or 5, but variable 3 at times, increasing 6 or 7 later in northwest.
Sea State Slight or moderate, becoming rough later in northwest.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Sole
Wind Mainly easterly or southeasterly 4 or 5, but variable 3 at times, increasing 6 or 7 later in west.
Sea State Slight or moderate, becoming rough later in west.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Lundy
Wind Variable 3 or 4, becoming southeast 5 later.
Sea State Smooth or slight.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Good, occasionally very poor.
Fastnet
Wind Variable 3 or 4, becoming southeast 5 or 6 later.
Sea State Slight or moderate.
Weather Occasional rain, fog patches.
Visibility Good, occasionally very poor.
Irish Sea
Wind Variable 3 or 4.
Sea State Smooth or slight.
Weather Occasional rain, fog patches.
Visibility Good, occasionally very poor.
Shannon
Wind Variable 3 or 4, becoming southeast 5 to 7 later.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Occasional rain, fog patches.
Visibility Good, occasionally very poor.
Rockall
Wind Southerly 5 to 7, but variable 3 or 4 at times.
Sea State Moderate or rough, occasionally very rough later in west.
Weather Rain at times.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Malin
Wind Southerly 5 to 7, but variable 3 or 4 at times.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Rain at times.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Hebrides
Wind Southerly 5 to 7, but variable 3 or 4 at times.
Sea State Moderate or rough.
Weather Rain at times.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Bailey
Wind Southerly 5 to 7, but variable 3 or 4 at times.
Sea State Moderate or rough, occasionally very rough later in west.
Weather Rain at times.
Visibility Moderate or good.
Fair Isle
Wind Northwest backing southwest 5 to 7, decreasing 3 or 4 for a time.
Sea State Very rough or high, becoming moderate or rough.
Weather Wintry showers, then occasional rain.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Faeroes
Wind Southerly veering southwesterly 5 or 6, but variable 3 or 4 at first in east, decreasing 4 at times.
Sea State Rough or very rough, occasionally moderate.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
Southeast Iceland
Wind Southerly veering southwesterly 5 or 6, decreasing 4 at times.
Sea State Rough or very rough.
Weather Occasional rain.
Visibility Good, occasionally poor.
The shipping forecast is issued by the Met Office on behalf of the Maritime and Coastguard Agency.
UC – to save the hits
why not just copy and paste it here?
HH
Surely………………………………………………………..
If you support Celtic……………………………….
You support Celtic…………………………………………..
And can’t be clouded by “ if they get IN or not “ ……………..
BigJoethinksMINCE2
ULSTER-CELT
Just gonna click on it.
From the sound of things,we all need to get to it before AWE NAW ,well,AWE NAW’s it. Although the author has probably done a damn good job already!
Posse of psychophants…
The general synopsis at midnight UTC
Low south finland 968 expected estonia 986 by midnight tonight.
High northeast Fitzroy 1036 expected East Anglia 1033 by same time
BigJoeShivveringHIStimbers
RANGERS are on the trail of £1.5million-rated Swede Mervan Celik.
And manager Ally McCoist is poised to strike a loan deal with Arsenal for their teenage strike sensation Benik Afobe.
Midfielder Celik is out of contract with Gothenburg club GAIS and is available for free.
The 21-year-old is desperate for a fresh start and Ibrox chiefs are ready to pounce.
Record Sport understands an offer has been tabled and sources in Sweden insist the player is keen on a switch to Glasgow.
Rangers would be required to pay compensation because Celik was nurtured by GAIS but that could be as little as £100,000.
The player is an exciting attacking midfielder who can operate on both wings and he cracked 14 goals in 27 appearances in his last season to alert a string of scouts.
A mainsay of the Sweden Under-21 set-up, the playmaker is on the fringes of Eric Hamren’s senior squad.
Middlesbrough and Fulham have kept tabs along with Italians Genoa and Parma but Turks Gaziantepspor are leading the chase alongside Rangers.
Last night agent Hasan Cetinkaya said: “There are many clubs who have been interested and, had it been any other player, it would have been clear long ago but Mervan has been calm.
“Right now it is about two clubs and Mervan has not decided yet.”
Gunners kid Afobe was selected for England’s Under-20 World Cup squad in summer before Arsene Wenger pulled him out to join his first-team squad’s pre-season tour of Germany.
In August he was called up by England Under-21 manager Stuart Pearce as a replacement for Manchester United striker Danny Wellbeck but injury denied him his debut at that level.
London-born Afobe, who turns 19 next month, has yet to start a competitive match for Arsenal – although he played against New York Red Bulls in the Emirates Cup in July and spent the second half of last season on loan to Huddersfield, where he formed a prolific partnership with Scots scoring sensation Jordan Rhodes.
Afobe scored five goals in 12 starts as Huddersfield made the League Two play-offs and is back at Arsenal continuing his football education.
The powerful 6ft striker would be Rangers’ second loan signing from Arsenal after defender’s Kyle Bartley spell at Ibrox.
But McCoist may wait until later in the transfer window before making a move – or until he knows whether Nikica Jelavic will stay or go.
McCoist will also take a close look at Estonian Enar Jaager, who is expected to arrive for a trial next week.
The 27-year-old, primarily a right-back, has just left Norwegians Aalesunds and is a free agent.
Much-travelled Jaager, who has had spells with Ascoli in Italy and with Moscow Torpedo, won his 84th cap in the Euro 2012 play-off with Ireland in November.
UC
Good man!
Ulster Celt is right,I’m wiping away tears of laughter even as I type.
Some of the comments are priceless as well.
Here’s another one which made me smile,again from the DR,but strangely no comments invited…..
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Scots police probe anti-Catholic and Celtic-hating online rant made by English ref Jeff Winter
Jan 13 2012 Exclusive by John Ferguson
SCOTS police are investigating a sickening rant against Celtic and the Catholic church posted on former top English ref Jeff Winter’s website.
The internet diary entry called the Pope a “dress wearing, Nazi, kiddy-fiddling protector” and asked if altar boys would be “abused in celebration” after Celtic beat Rangers last month.
Celtic yesterday reported the matter to Strathclyde Police, who confirmed they had begun a probe.
Winter’s website was taken down shortly before 10am yesterday, hours after our story was published highlighting the online rant.
Winter, 56, is a former senior English Premier League referee, who took charge of the 2004 FA Cup Final between Manchester United and Millwall.
In his profile on Twitter, he claims to support Middlesbrough FC and Rangers.
The blog entry on Winter’s website told how “bad tidings” had been received about Celtic’s 1-0 Old Firm victory on December 28. It then launched into the hate-filled diatribe.
Elsewhere on the site there are other entries about Celtic, including a slur against Parkhead legend Jock Stein.
Winter is travelling in New Zealand and his mobile phone was switched off yesterday.
Winter worked as a pundit for Sky Sports and Talksport Radio after retiring as an official in 2004. He now speaks on the after-dinner circuit.
Football pundit Gabriele Marcotti said he contacted Winter to find out if the site had been hacked and received a reply saying his website manager was looking into it.
Celtic demanded an apology when Winter called Aiden McGeady a “cheating b*****d” and branded Neil Lennon “a hate figure” in 2010.
Winter could be prosecuted under the Communications Act. The Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications Bill, which was passed last month, has still to receive royal assent.
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Good enough for him,the eejit.
DBBIA
Is Dogger where you would take a Fishermans Friend?
Forecast for the rest of Friday
Cloudy periods though remaining fine. Light to moderate E to NE winds.
Precis: Fine. Cloudy periods.
Forecast for Saturday
Partly cloudy with a shower or two, mainly during the afternoon. Light to moderate E to NE winds.
Precis: A shower or two. City: Min 20Max 27 Bayside: Min 20Max 27
UV Alert from 7:50 am to 4:00 pm, UV Index predicted to reach 13 [Extreme]
Sunday A few showers. Min 19Max 26 Monday A few showers. Min 19Max 25 Tuesday A few showers. Min 20Max 27 Wednesday A shower or two. Min 20Max 29 Thursday Mostly fine, possible shower. Min 20Max 31 Friday Mostly fine, possible shower. Min 21Max 31
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Mervan Celik..
Can just see the Headline after the Last Olde Firm Game..
Celik Own Goal gives Celtic League Title..
Summa
Ulster-Celt says:
13 January, 2012 at 08:34
Scottish Sun on-line headline is Gers To Splash Cash. When you read the story they have an Estonian full back on trial and are trying to get an Arsenal youngster on loan.
001:
Hope the heat isn’t too much for you mate. My tomatoes are going feral. Oranges, limes, lemons and strawberries everywhere. It is all that sun we have been having and now we get a wee rest with some rain. Magic. I wonder if it is raining on Media House. Seems they just can’t get good staff at all and wee sammy makes a comeback. I would love it if the sun shone on the Smiddy.
I’m starting to think the Board believe the huns are going to have a firesale and do eff all to help strengthen the team.
Only complete and utter morons keep making the same mistakes and sadly it looks as if the board are complete and utter morons!!! As a famous complete and utter moron once said, “There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on, shame on you. Fool me, You can’t get fooled again.”
Good morning fellow Celts, mild 10 degrees and blue skies in North Hampshire
Almost halfway through the windae now -any sign of a ‘haud the ba’ and heidie some goals’ striker?
must stay focused
HH
M
Morning,I must have sobered up from new year festivities ,cannot understand
a word on the blog this morning.
Greenjedi – Who said that o–>
.
Kit..
Ha.. It’s Actually Pissin it Doon..but that Would not Have Had the Same Affect..Ha..
My New House.. Has a Orange and Lemon tree in the Back Garden so l was Glad as the Olde House had a Lemon tree and l Cook. With it all the Time..
Lemons didn’t Look to Guid so l did what l did with the Last one Some Major Branch removal so in Two Years time I Would Harvest Double My Normal Amount..
Had a BBQ for My Birthday and Some Bhoys were Drinking Corona.. So l Gave then Some of My Funny Shaped LEMONS.. they All Spat out their Drink..
It’s a Frickin GRAPEFRUIT Tree.. Whit a Lemon l am..:0(
Strawberries.. Ha Not in Melbourne we Had Snow on Wed..
Summa
merseycelt loves Neil Lennon and the Green Brigade but despises the anti irish/catholic bigotry inherent within the organisations who constitute the scottish establishment says:
13 January, 2012 at 07:02
drambowiecelt
‘Essentially, ernie and stfb, are stating that, unless Celtic FC actively oppose the possible re-entry of huns newco to the SPL, they will cease to support Celtic.’
No.
Essentially what I’m saying is that if Celtic are party to a deal that allows a newco huns straight into the SPL they will cease to be the Celtic that I have supported since the 1960s.
merseycelt (and Big Joe)
No offence taken at the use of the word mince. I don’t even regard that fine dish as suitable to be considered a derogatory term.
Drambowie Celt made a fairly accurate, for me (I can’t and won’t speak for ernie), distinction in your interpretation of my view.
I can never lose my love for the old club Celtic but, if we chose to continue participating in a league with acknowledged cheaters, then I can no longer follow them in a rigged SPL competition. It is the same as inviting you to bet on a game you know is rigged.
I am no masochist. There are enough unseen and unaccountable forces against us without accepting these handicaps formally and bargaining with the cheater.
Would you play golf with the recently deceased N. Korean leader if you had agreed that he started with a 20 stroke handicap. After you posted your legitimate score, even if it was under par, he’d just come and announce that he’d went round the course in 18 (net 38) including holes in one at every par 5, a feat even legendary golfers like the “Great White Goldfish”Blantyre Kev or ” I came out in 32″ johnnybhoy, would be reluctant to claim.
I am not a default anti-board poster. I regard them as convenient scapegoats in most of our arguments on here. But, if they say we cannot live without a Rangers, they will be mistaking my view and, I believe, the mood music of many Celts.
I am not going to insult those Celts who would continue to attend regardless but I do not see the point. Unconditional Love? Not of the masochistic kind, thank you very much. I cannot love those that would demean and despise me and see me only as a source of revenue.
Many have stated that this is how they feel about the Board at all times, even during the bling and frippery of transfer windows, but I have NEVER had that feeling about our club and custodians previously.
I do not believe that I will be forced to make the decision to walk away, however. I expect Rangers to be allowed to die without any conferred dignity.
ernie lynch says:
13 January, 2012 at 09:23
merseycelt loves Neil Lennon and the Green Brigade but despises the anti irish/catholic bigotry inherent within the organisations who constitute the scottish establishment says:
13 January, 2012 at 07:02
drambowiecelt
‘Essentially, ernie and stfb, are stating that, unless Celtic FC actively oppose the possible re-entry of huns newco to the SPL, they will cease to support Celtic.’
No.
Essentially what I’m saying is that if Celtic are party to a deal that allows a newco huns straight into the SPL they will cease to be the Celtic that I have supported since the 1960s.
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And its not just Ernie and stfb saying that!
Bloody hell I’m agreeing with Ernie!!!!!
greenjedi says:
13 January, 2012 at 09:25
There’s hope for you yet!
I feel its mibbie you getting some sense at last
twists n turns says:
12 January, 2012 at 22:35
“….I’m already excited at filling it with quality. Even Leo might just find a place in ma boax”
Hello there, Leo here
While it is true that mum has sheltered me from the more prurient aspects of life as a rock’n’roller, I do understand the innuendo
above and am surprised (though not in a good way) to see such a post on this site.
Mum has said that she is going to straighten that twisty out
Hail hail hail YWNA
Leo Sayer –
Remember me?
It was me and my girfriend you met at the M6 service station.
Aye don’t kid on ye don’t know what I’m talking about.
I’ve been looking for you for over 30 years.
You owe me ya bugger.
Moonlighting my arse!
Morning CQNer’s.
ernie lynch says:
13 January, 2012 at 09:23
“Essentially what I’m saying is that if Celtic are party to a deal that allows a newco huns straight into the SPL they will cease to be the Celtic that I have supported since the 1960s.”
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What to do ?
Hail! Hail!
jhilday says:
13 January, 2012 at 07:33
Damp, cloudy and very cold here in North Ayrshire this morning.
Whit part of North Ayrshire do you come from? Clear blue skies, crisp and fresh from where i’m sitting.
PC67
ernie lynch says:
13 January, 2012 at 09:27
greenjedi says:
13 January, 2012 at 09:25
Me too.
Although if Celtic PLC vote against and everybody else votes for and it’s passed where does that leave us? Do we think “Oh well they made their feelings known but what can you do?” or “They knew that would happen it was an easy get out to appease the fans, while knowing the status quo would be maintained” or “Why aren’t we resigning from this corrupt organisation and re-applying to start from the bottom. The fans will stick with us, and all of Scottish Football will benefit apart from those cowards in the SPL.”
weeminger
If the huns where liquidated and a newco allowed straight back into the SPL I’d expect Celtic to offer to fund the legal challenge from the club that is denied their rightful place in the SPL due to them getiing the place.
Weeminger – I can’t speak for anyone else on this issue but I want to see Celtic play hardball on this issue.
Not a vote against newhuns to appease us lot, but a genuine effort to ensure honesty and integrity is to the fore.
Other people have stated it better than me. We want the SPL/SFA to simply abide by the rules (for once)
Summed up – justice, that’s what I want.
hello there Tom, Leo here
well, as they say, marry in haste repent in leisure. You should have been warned when she stared at you with your face unshaved.
hail hail hail YWNA
Kev-Jungle “Terracing’s are the way ahead!” IMO! says:
13 January, 2012 at 09:35
‘What to do ?’
Celtic can stop it by making it clear from the start that if the SPL votes to allow a newco huns straight into the SPL Celtic will resign from the league with immediate effect.
The threat would be enough to ensure that the plan is scuppered.
If however the SPL insists on allowing a newco huns into the SPL Celtic could approach UEFA and say that we weren’t prepared to be involved in a scheme which makes a mockery of their financial fair play policy and ask for their assistance in allowing us to join another league.
Just had a text from my mate down south.The young boy rangers want on loan from arsenal is out injured,not be back training till Febuary.
ernie lynch says:
13 January, 2012 at 09:46
I agree with that. I’d also suggest that it might rally the fans and lead to fuller a fuller stadium and thus negate to an extent any loss in tv revenue.
ernie lynch says:
13 January, 2012 at 09:46
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My view is that, Scottish football/establishment are joined together at the hip and, amount to nothing more than a sectarian can of worms that needs the lid removing. what you suggest might just do the trick ?
Hail! Hail!
Why are we all assuming that a newco will arise? The current cost per month [refer to RFC accounts] to run them is circa £37m per annum.I would assume that ay newco would not have any access to credit facilities and virtually all costs would require upfront payment even a suitably pruned newco would still require circa £20-£25m minimum per annum to fund a squad,hire a stadium and training ground,back of house facilities etc.
Are we assuming that all the bears will return to watch a very much pruned squad with no hope of european access for years to come?..just a thought