Spectre of Celtic and wincing at financial realities

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I winced slightly reading that Deliotte’s suggested Celtic were a ‘top 40’ club in terms of turnover.  The days we featured in their annual Top 20 report are long gone, lost in the raft of TV deals which flooded into England, France and elsewhere.

This is a problem for Celtic but at least we have a decent shot at Champions League income each year.  Others in Scottish football have been left to wither on the vine (phrase of the week), as the likes of AFC Bournemouth cherry-pick their talent.

Celtic need a solution to help them compete with their peer-group of European heavy-weights but the solution has to accommodate the other top Premiership clubs.  Dundee United have the ability to produce remarkable talent, if only they had the TV deal to allow them to retain it long enough to build a team.  The same could be said for Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Motherwell, Inverness and Ross County.

Scottish football would benefit enormously by federating with a neighbour.

You would think after administration and liquidation those who look to Ibrox for their football fix would, to adopt a popular phrase around those parts, have suffered enough from financial ‘ambition’.  Not a bit of it, it seems.  Not when the spectre of “being battered” by Celtic looms like an enormous green and white tidal wave.

For the last 12 years of its existence, Dave King was one of the non-executive directors of Rangers, paid to ensure that financial controls and risk management [role of non-execs defined by government 2003 Higgs Report]were in place.  I am not being glib or shameless when I say he did a remarkable job.

With Newco appearing to be in some financial distress, King told the Daily Mail he opposes planned cutbacks: ‘If we cut the club back to a level that’s just enough to win the League One or the Championship then that’s fine. But the gap between ourselves and Celtic when we get to the Premiership will be obvious.

“But I don’t feel the club should respond by cutting the costs to the point of saying ‘we only have to do what is necessary to beat East Fife or whoever.

“Because if you do that Celtic will build up to 10-in-a-row and we could be so far behind them that even when we are back in the Premiership we are  not in a position to catch up.

“We cannot risk going to Celtic Park and being battered 6-0.”

Those trying to keep Newco Rangers afloat will not welcome suggestions that current shareholders don’t have the “appetite or willingness to invest”, a few months before they will ask fans to buy season tickets.

Learn your lesson, there is no shame in losing 6-0 to Celtic, this is sport, bad results can happen, but there is enormous shame in failing to live within your means.

I’m off to contemplate 10-in-a-row for a while. To hyphenate or not?
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  1. The Token Tim:

     

     

    Apologies, see you’ve gone and got me so flustered I forgot to address that last post to you.

  2. kitalba

     

    This, for me , has been the most ” human” of your recent posts:

     

     

    “Apologies, see you’ve gone and got me so flustered I forgot to address that last post to you.”

  3. Kitalba,

     

     

    you accused me of “nasty innuendo”.

     

     

    Where is this in my post to you?

     

     

    As for my “…give it a break…” comment, that was because you seem to be seeing stuff that isn’t there.

     

     

    I thought you were being facetious re that question you posed. Clearly, as far as you are concerned you are not. So let me put it back to you:

     

     

    Why wouldnt a Celtic v Huns (in whatever incarnation they may be at that point) be better attended than a Celtic v Morton game?

     

     

    To me it is obvious why it would be better attended. And whilst there is every chance I am wrong, I believe most Celtic supporters would agree with me as to why it is obvious.

     

    To you it clearly isnt. And despite our last couple of correspondences – where I think there has been a crossing of wires – I’d be interested to hear why that is the case for you.

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

  4. Kitalba – to answer your question. I overhear enough people leaving block 143 talking about how they’d like a Rangers team back in the top division to know that the game would sell out.

     

     

    The only thing I could see that might stop that happening is if they were on a share of the gate and a good campaign to boycott got underway.

  5. An Gorta Mor – Celtic Football Club – Brother Walfrid – 1 Million pound bonuses on top of your wages – Tommy Burns and loavesandfishes and the 2014 destitute – the Green Brigade in Maryhill at the Thistle game collecting cans of crap soup to put something into the stomachs of the 2014 hungry???

  6. The Token Tim

     

     

    “But we both know you are just being facetious now asking that question”.

  7. weeminger:

     

     

    I think when it happens it’ll be like nothin’ better than the past, and I doubt there’ll be an empty seat in the house.

  8. Kitalba, after that post at 1441 hrs.

     

     

    Forget it.

     

     

    I truly dont care what you have to say, drunk, facetious or otherwise.

     

     

    I’ve better things to be doing than become embroiled in some petty argument with you.

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

     

     

    PS – You’re wrong about my point. The Huns are Dead. Despite what they may claim, they are dead.

  9. Kitalba

     

     

     

    “I don’t like what Paul67 writes of late, it stinks to me of The Real Celtic View 2014, I would not have the audacity to tell Paul to give it a break; ”

     

     

     

    Kit, it’s Paul’s site and the vast majority on here really enjoy his headers/ blog.

     

     

    I love some of the debate on here. It really opens my eyes to many different points of view.

     

     

    Kit, imo, you are fast becoming the argumentative pub drunk who always seems to have a wide berth all to themself.

     

     

    Ktf. Gm

  10. The only time 10iar should ever be mentioned is after we celebrate 9iar. Distinctly remember sitting in the broomloan when dick gough went on his ten fingers in the air celebration after scoring against us thinking “I hope those fingers are shoved right down your throat by the end of the season” . And they were:-D

  11. The Token Tim @ 13:25 I asked:

     

     

    Why would a Celtic v New Huns game be better attended than a Celtic v Morton game?

     

     

    You are the one that labelled that post facetious. I was simply asking a question of you.

  12. Italy’s Serie A.

     

     

    Average attendances over the years:

     

     

    1984/85 – 38,847;

     

     

    2013/14 – 23,740.

     

     

    Armageddon!

     

     

    HH!!

  13. Geordie Munro:

     

     

    You are entitled to you opinion, I won’t belittle it by saying it is a drunken opinion, but would you not agree that I too am entitled to my opinion whether it is drunken, drug encuced, gay or black, or do you have pre-conceived prejudices to who can post on here and do you advocate a breath/drug test before the post of others is made public.

     

     

    Are you really so far up yourself?

  14. An Gorta Mor – Celtic Football Club – Brother Walfrid – 1 Million pound bonuses on top of your wages – Tommy Burns and loavesandfishes and the 2014 destitute – the Green Brigade in Maryhill at the Thistle game collecting cans of crap soup to put something into the stomachs of the 2014 hungry???

     

     

    I wonder how many tins of soup the Celtic Directors put into the pot.

  15. sixtaeseven – Gardez la Foi, DAM 5 !

     

    14:36 on

     

    24 January, 2014

     

    When McCoolick claimed there is little difference in standard between the SPL and the Third Division, shurely he must have been thinking about the MIBs?

     

    Shurely he wasn’t talking about the fitba’…

     

    _____________________

     

    No he was refering to the fine dinning experience spearmint chewing gum and macaroon bars versus sit down dinning.

  16. Delaneys Dunky on

    Celtic Cross

     

     

    Agree. I cringe when I hear the 10 in a row song. It smacks of hun supremacy and arrogance.

  17. LiviBhoy – I think you are right, The Wolves deal was a transfer swap but sure he was on loan before that.

     

     

    Setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox

     

    Of course how could i forget Big Sammi! We had him on loan before signing. I still think given the chance Miku woul dhave been great to keep, coul dhold ball up and score goals. If we had sold Hooper last January he would have got game time, not fallen out with Lennon and probably have scored 25 goals so far this season. Or maybe not.

  18. LiviBhoy - God bless wee Oscar on

    TONYG

     

     

    An elbow challenge is no different in any league.

     

    He should get a game at Murrayfield. Scotland could do with his aggression.

     

     

    LB

  19. jeez i thought & any one else interested.

     

     

    So Charlie did go on loan. Make that 4 and an admission that I have made a total Hemdani of that question.

     

     

    The missing one that nobody got was our captain Scott Brown, who was loaned out by Hibs to Cowdenbeath (alongside Derek Riordan).

     

     

    Yeah I know it was a trick question and karma made sure I ballsed it up, but the point I was trying to make was that lots of footballers benefit from the loan system and come back as better players.

     

     

    Beckham was sent to Preston early on in his career and Ibrahimovic was loaned out by Barca at the peak of his talents.

     

     

    Not every one loaned out is going to thrive and make it back to Celtic but neither is it the end of the world.

     

     

    Tony Watt’s football skills are already good enough to bring him back but what a bonus it would be if we brought him back having learned his maturity lesson.

  20. Kitalba no

     

     

    It was a serious question , your posts about hate and your brother walfrids look on Celtic today about the boards gluttony for money and the foodbanks I just thought you were maybe a priest , no malice intende bud .

  21. Kit.

     

     

    Apologies.

     

     

    I didn’t mean to suggest you weren’t lucid.

     

     

    I merely tried to draw a similarity with your posting at Times and the auld drooling guy in a bar who thinks everyone should sit up and listen to their rambles.

  22. In fairness to McElbows statement about the Premiership level being the same as League One he is probably thinking of the luxury travel arrangements and the 5 star stop offs and hospitality. They used to stop at Gleneagles and now it’s Carnoustie, all cost more than they have but their players need to be pampered don’t they. They are a talented bunch….plus if mercenaries aren’t looked after they will just down tools

  23. The increase in TV money in Italy for live fitba over the years:

     

     

    1981/82 – 26 million euros;

     

    1993/94 – 92.8 million euros;

     

    2013/14 – 1.008 billion euros.

     

     

    HH!!

  24. The Battered Bunnet on

    Having left Celtic after his loan ended, Miku is currently burning up the Qatar Stars league, having scored 5 goals in 6 games for Al-Gharafa.

     

     

    Enjoying himself? He’s having an Gharaf.

  25. LiviBhoy - God bless wee Oscar on

    setting free the bears supports Res. 12 & Oscar Knox

     

     

    Was Stokes not loaned out while at Arsenal to Falkirk?

     

     

    LB

  26. Delaneys Dunky on

    Marspapa

     

     

    Not to my knowledge bud. Glasgow west, Paisley and Motherwell is where the Delaneys related to me live. Oh, and Sligo.

  27. snake plissken

     

     

    13:52 on 24 January, 2014,

     

     

    Totally agree with your post regarding our young players being farmed out.

     

     

    They go out for six months or a year…how many times when we sign a new player do you here,ach, he needs time to settle in?

     

     

    What makes people think our young ones can find their feet any quicker!

     

     

    A proper reserve league would help as it did on the past.

  28. marspapa

     

     

    No I am not a priest, but I know of some who post on here and who lurk on here. Don’t you think that the food banks are a good thing? I bet you would if you had nothing to eat.

     

     

    And if I was a priest… what difference would it make?

     

     

    Geordie Munro

     

     

    If you don’t want your post to be read, here’s a wee clue, don’t post them.

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