Spectre of Celtic and wincing at financial realities

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I winced slightly reading that Deliotte’s suggested Celtic were a ‘top 40’ club in terms of turnover.  The days we featured in their annual Top 20 report are long gone, lost in the raft of TV deals which flooded into England, France and elsewhere.

This is a problem for Celtic but at least we have a decent shot at Champions League income each year.  Others in Scottish football have been left to wither on the vine (phrase of the week), as the likes of AFC Bournemouth cherry-pick their talent.

Celtic need a solution to help them compete with their peer-group of European heavy-weights but the solution has to accommodate the other top Premiership clubs.  Dundee United have the ability to produce remarkable talent, if only they had the TV deal to allow them to retain it long enough to build a team.  The same could be said for Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Motherwell, Inverness and Ross County.

Scottish football would benefit enormously by federating with a neighbour.

You would think after administration and liquidation those who look to Ibrox for their football fix would, to adopt a popular phrase around those parts, have suffered enough from financial ‘ambition’.  Not a bit of it, it seems.  Not when the spectre of “being battered” by Celtic looms like an enormous green and white tidal wave.

For the last 12 years of its existence, Dave King was one of the non-executive directors of Rangers, paid to ensure that financial controls and risk management [role of non-execs defined by government 2003 Higgs Report]were in place.  I am not being glib or shameless when I say he did a remarkable job.

With Newco appearing to be in some financial distress, King told the Daily Mail he opposes planned cutbacks: ‘If we cut the club back to a level that’s just enough to win the League One or the Championship then that’s fine. But the gap between ourselves and Celtic when we get to the Premiership will be obvious.

“But I don’t feel the club should respond by cutting the costs to the point of saying ‘we only have to do what is necessary to beat East Fife or whoever.

“Because if you do that Celtic will build up to 10-in-a-row and we could be so far behind them that even when we are back in the Premiership we are  not in a position to catch up.

“We cannot risk going to Celtic Park and being battered 6-0.”

Those trying to keep Newco Rangers afloat will not welcome suggestions that current shareholders don’t have the “appetite or willingness to invest”, a few months before they will ask fans to buy season tickets.

Learn your lesson, there is no shame in losing 6-0 to Celtic, this is sport, bad results can happen, but there is enormous shame in failing to live within your means.

I’m off to contemplate 10-in-a-row for a while. To hyphenate or not?
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  1. Dharma Bam \o/ stands up for Neil Lennon

     

    13:25 on

     

    24 January, 2014

     

    Why are we referring to the club that plays out of Ibrox as Newco and not Newclub?

     

     

    Totally agree.New club ends all fantasy occurring after their 9 min meeting on the 14th june

     

    2012

  2. Guy Fawkes

     

     

    It’s only 20% if you restrict it to Celtic.

     

     

    If you include players like Beckham and Riordan, you can find examples to make it work.

     

     

    Some of these players are not going to make it whether they stay or go on loan. At least, by going on loan to England AND doing well, we might get a fee that pays back our development costs. Jackson Irvine at Killie is not likely to fetch us money and is not looking likely to make it at present.

  3. Celtic_Cross @ 1458

     

     

    A very good point mate.

     

     

    Despite my earlier post, I have not sang the song and will definitely now reafrin from doing so in the future…..until we are about to do just that :-)

     

     

    Like you I was in the broomloan that day as he ran to the govan standites making the gesture. Like you my feelings towards him at that time were not exactly complimentary.

     

     

    We had the last laugh though.

     

     

    :-)

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

  4. Greenpinta 15:29

     

     

    …the next man to walk on the moon?

     

     

    OR a back lot at Hollywood?

     

     

    Now there’s a fine question for a Friday night session.

     

     

    Yessir, indeedy!

  5. The Green Man:

     

     

    Mate, I don’t want to be seen as pickin on you, conversely it would be unfair for anybody to say you were pickin’ on me… so you had a bad day, tomorrow is just a sleep away, but the five way agreement is what my club allowed and that broke my heart and the refusal of Paul67 and others to accede that we were party, and if not put on record their thoughts, wastes my brains and my tolerance for the farce that is Scottish Football.

     

     

    Like I SAID earlier, and I did not mean any malice by it, it is just the way I perceive it, of late, CQN is like The C

  6. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Livibhoy

     

     

    Plastic hard men like Mcculloch would get eaten alive in a first class rugby game

  7. Like I SAID earlier, and I did not mean any malice by it, it is just the way I perceive it, of late, CQN is like The Celtic View.

     

     

    Paul has an established forum here for progress and of late, the last three years or so, this blog, FOR ME,

  8. ....PFayr supports WeeOscar on

    Well Dave King

     

     

    How do you fix it …alchemy …shit into gold

     

     

    Abracadabra

     

     

    Enter… The Great Suprendo

     

     

    Utter pish !!

  9. LiviBhoy - God bless wee Oscar on

    The Token Tim

     

     

    I was also at the game at Ibrox that day and I have never came away from there more confident we would win the league.

     

    Blarney Pilgrims were on in Bathgate that evening and I was totally blootered before I even got in the taxi. The 7 seater door was slammed shut and unbeknown to me it was on my hand. I travelled around 8 miles from Livi to Bathgate and didn’t even notice until the door was opened.

     

    The Pilgirms were one of the finest bands I have ever seen. Great night. Saw them many times before but first time they had been to Bathgate.

     

    Felt my hand the next day right enough. Probably done it some damage but never had it checked. Seems OK now though.

     

     

    LB

  10. Paul has an established forum here for progress and of late, the last three years or so, this blog, FOR ME, screams of official CELTIC.

  11. DD

     

     

    “Something in my mind links Broonie to Falkirk.”

     

     

    That’ll be from when you told him to get to Falkirk.

     

     

     

    Gordon J

     

     

    Since those irregularities relate to the Neymar signing, can we get the 6:1

     

     

    Since those irregularities relate to the Neymar signing , can we get the 6:1 result overturned?

  12. Kitalba, you are totally right, the board are responsible for the coming old firm agenda.

     

    People don’t want to recognise that fact….but its true.

     

    Ive no disagreement with you on that, or any other matter.

     

    More power to you.

     

     

    Hail, Hail

  13. Mick was in my class and also went to the Xaverian College Coatbridge for a short time.

     

     

    He had an older brother I remember. They were quite well off in our eyes I recall.

     

     

    Mick also was a proud owner of Oldco Rangers shares back in the day.

     

     

    What era were you?

  14. Gordon J 15:44

     

     

    …this one’s been bubbling under for a week or so down here. Today’s papers saying it could also be the downfall of Santos President Odilio Rodrigues.

     

     

    Mind you, I’d have him run off, just for looking like a dodgy geezer.

     

     

    Judge for yourself

     

    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://cdn.foxsports.com.br/sites/foxsports-br/files/img/notes/materia/620×465/santos-odilio-rodrigues-640×480-divulgacao.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.foxsports.com.br/noticias/110094-sem-robinho-odilio-espera-anunciar-dois-atacantes&h=465&w=620&sz=62&tbnid=UR_83YMg1x34_M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__JW2iNqV3vWFonno3GGJIwlBCzz8=&docid=Nw7XuMqrBpAtjM&sa=X&ei=5o3iUs_5I8i70QWSq4D4Dw&ved=0CCgQ9QEwAA

     

     

    Definitely a dodgy deal.

     

     

    Mind you, it’s all in keeping with persistent (I mean the past 18months – 2 years) rumours from a few who I’d say are “in the know” about a lot of (alleged) skeletons in the Barca/UEFA/FIFA cupboards

  15. Afternoon all. It’s Friday already and we now into the last week of this window.

     

    And to go along with the usual SMSM nonsense which happens before a weekend game it seems we’re now back in for the Leigh Griffith.

     

    I smell something and it isn’t shineola!

     

     

    Anyway here’s the latest updates for the List!

     

     

     

     

     

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    Players in:

     

    ———–

     

    Name Age Position Club Price

     

    —-— ——– —-—–

     

    Fridjonsson – 20 – Striker – Fram Reykjavik – £100K

     

    Johansen – 23 – Midfielder – Stromsgodset – £1.7M

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Players out:

     

    ———–

     

    Name Club Price

     

    —-—- —–

     

    George – Hamilton Accies – Loan deal

     

    Rogic – Melbourne Victory – Loan deal

     

    Atajic – Shrewsbury Town – Loan deal

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Rumoured transfer in:

     

    ———————

     

    Keepers

     

    ——-

     

    Name Age Club Source Price

     

    —-— —- —— —–

     

    Forde – 33 – Millwall – STV – No fee mentioned (06/12)

     

    McCarthy – 24 – Reading – Talkceltic – No fee mentioned (16/13)

     

    Johnson – 24 – Chicago Fire – Daily Express – No fee mentioned (11/01)

     

    Johnson – 21 – Port Vale – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned (12/01)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Defenders

     

    ———

     

    Name Age Club Source Price

     

    —-— —- —— —–

     

    Taylor-Sinclair – 22 – Partick – Various – £75K (30/11)

     

    Taylor – 27 – Newcastle – Talkceltic – 6 mths loan (13/12)

     

    Kalas – 20 – Chelsea – Celticrumours – 6 mths loan (05/01)

     

    Kingsley – 19 – Falkirk – The Herald – £500K (10/01)

     

    Capuano – 22 – Pescara – Various – No fee mentioned (14/01)

     

    Williams – 26 – Middlesbrough – Scottish Sun – £1.5M (22/01)

     

    Morrison – 25 – Charlton – Daily mail – No fee mentioned (23/01)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Midfielders

     

    ———–

     

    Name Age Club Source Price

     

    —-— —- —— —–

     

    Armstrong – 21 – Dundee Utd – Various – £500K (01/12)

     

    Gauld – 18 – Dundee Utd – Celticrumours – £500K (01/12)

     

    Guidetti – 21 – Man City – – Talkceltic – Loan until summer (09/12)

     

    Bryson – 27 – Derby County – STV – No fee mentioned (12/12)

     

    Toivonen – 27 – PSV – Talkceltic – No fee mentioned (13/12)

     

    Norwood – 22 – Huddersfield – The Scottish Hun – £3M (17/12)

     

    Eikrem – 23 – Hereenven – Various – No fee mentioned (21/12)

     

    Henrikson – AZ Alkmaar – various – £2M (23/12)

     

    Hassan – 19 – Al Ahly – Various – £2M (24/12)

     

    Tomlin – 24 – Peterborough Utd – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned (03/01)

     

    Mackay-Steven – 22 – Dundee Utd – Various – £1M (03/01)

     

    Berisha – 20 – Red Bull Salzburg – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned (03/01)

     

    Fletcher – 29 – Man Utd – Various – No fee mentioned; possible loan (04/01)

     

    McDonald – 25 – Wolves – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned (04/01)

     

    Hupperts 21 – Roda JC – Talkceltic – No fee mentioned (07/01)

     

    Mane – 19 – Sporting – Scottish Sun – Reported £1M buy-out-clause (09/01)

     

    Firmino – 22 – Hoffenheim – The Times – £4.5M (12/01)

     

    Larsson – 16 – Hodaborks – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned (13/01)

     

    Bryson – 27 – Derby – Radio Snyde – No fee mentioned (16/01)

     

    Tomlin – 25 – Peterborough – Daily Mail – No fee mentioned (23/01)

     

    Golasa – 22 – Maccabi Haifa – Israeli press – No fee mentioned (24/01)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Strikers

     

    ——–

     

    Name Age Club Source Price

     

    —-— —- —— —–

     

    Parzyszek – 20 – De Graafschap – Polish press – £800K (30/11)

     

    Vaughan – 25 – Norwich – Daily Mirror – No fee mentioned (03/12)

     

    Ings – 21 – Burnley – The Scottish Hun – £5M (03/12)

     

    May – 21 – St Johnstone – Northern Times – No fee mentioned (07/12)

     

    McCormack – 27 – Leeds – SSB – No fee mentioned (07/12)

     

    McKay – 24 – ICT – Daily Express – No fee mentioned (12/12)

     

    Boyd – 22 – Rapid Wien – Talkspurt – £1M (13/12)

     

    Damari – 24 – Hapoel Tel Aviv – SSN – No fee mentioned (14/12)

     

    Assombalonga – 21 – Talkceltic – No fee mentioned (16/12)

     

    Wells – 23 – Bradford City – Daily Rectum – No fee mentioned (16/12)

     

    Ntep – 21 – Auxerre – Talkceltic – No fee mentioned (16/12)

     

    Finnbogason – 24 – Heerenveen – Herald – £5M (17/12)

     

    Mawuli – 24 – Hapoel Ashkelon – Herald – £750K (17/12)

     

    Johannsson – 23 – AZ – Daily Mail – £2.5M (19/12)

     

    Soriano – 28 – Red Bull Salzburg – Daily Express – £4M (31/12)

     

    Fletcher – 26 – Sunderland – Various – £6M (02/01)

     

    Janko – 30 – Trabzonspor – Various – Player has expressed wish to join (11/01)

     

    Aboubakar – 21 – Lorient – Talkceltic – £3M (13/01)

     

    N’Doye – 28 – Lokomotiv Moscow – Celticrumours – £6M (13/01)

     

    Nikolic – 26 – Videoton – Guardian – £500K (14/01)

     

    Le Fondre – 27 – Reading – Talksport – No fee mentioned (15/01)

     

    Bent – 29 – Aston Villa – Daily Mirror – No fee mentioned (15/01)

     

    Walters – 30 – Stoke – Celticrumours – No fee mentioned (15/01)

     

    Rhodes – 23 – Blackburn – Talkspurt – No fee mentioned (16/01)

     

    Marica – 28 – Getafe – Daily Express – No fee mentioned (16/01)

     

    Kermorgant – 32 – Charlton – Daily mail – No fee mentioned (23/01)

     

    Griffiths – 23 – Wolves – SlySpurtsNews – £4-£5M (23/01)

     

    Damari – 24 – Hapoel Tel Aviv – Israeli press – No fee mentioned (24/01)

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    ShamPOO rumours:

     

    ———————-

     

    Name Club Reason

     

    —-—— —–

     

    Yamada – 24 – Jubilo Iwata – After a week long trial Celtic decided against

     

    Pawlowski – 20 – Udinese – Player going to Slask Wroclaw on loan

     

    Snodgrass – 26 – Norwich – Neil Lennon denies interest

     

    Djuricic – 21 – Benfica – Players agent has insisted Djuricic will not be joining us

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Rumoured loan out:

     

    ———————-

     

    Name Source Club

     

    —-—— —–

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Rumoured transfer out:

     

    ———————-

     

    Name Source Price

     

    —-—— —–

     

    Foster – Various– £7M to Southampton/Sunderland/Everton/Benfica

     

    Samaras – Various –£2M to Borussia Monchengladbach/Hull/Toronto/Aston villa

     

    Ledley – Various – £1M to Carrdiff

     

    van Djke – Various – £10M to Man City or Arsenal

     

    McGeouch – Various – £250K or loan to Coventry

     

    Bangura – Daily Rankers – Loan move to Falkenberg

     

    McGregor – Express and Star – £750K to Wolves/Derby

     

    Pukki – Celticrumours – West Ham interested

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    And as always let me know if you’ve heard of anyone that isn’t here.

     

    Bye for now fholks!

     

     

     

    HH

     

    /Bishop B

  16. GourockEmeraldBhoy "Supporting Wee Oscar the Warrior" on

    dharma bam \o/ stands up for neil lennon

     

     

    15:40 on 24 January, 2014

     

    GourockEmeraldBhoy,

     

     

    If it’s the same people over a period of time, you’ll notice there’s a pattern…

     

     

    Thumbs up ;-)

     

     

    HH

  17. Delaneys Dunky on

    Jonnybhoy

     

     

    You are correct. His dad, my uncle was a stockbroker, he had shares in Celtic and oldco. I am six years younger than Mick.

  18. GourockEmeraldBhoy& Dharma bam

     

     

    Oh I see, its the old hun witch hunt…..can I join in?

     

    If you are sleekitly referring to me….just say so, I love that kind of banter

     

    Im ready when you are:)

     

     

    Hail Hail

  19. Delaneys Dunky.

     

     

    Its a small world.Give him my regards if you are still in contact.

     

     

    You would have went to the new St Pauls?

     

     

    I also went to the Xaverian College so Mick will know me.

     

     

    John

  20. jonnybhoy:

     

     

    I spent years and years in the company of those guys.

     

     

    They werenae very good at football, more golf.

  21. Twitter

     

     

    So, a few Newspapers have been in contact Re.@ScotFans4Change. Clearly pressing the right buttons hmm? All for the good of our game. ;)

  22. GuyFawkesaforeverhero on

    setting free the bears

     

    15.50

     

     

    There’s no difference of opinion here. The Under20 league is a broken fence which is doing our young players no good.

     

     

    The further bounce is that with Rogic and Atajic no longer around to play their part as unpickable bench-warmers, two more young players will take their place.

     

     

    It’s a big frustration to see such guys stripped for games and supposedly warming-up when we all know the substitute goalkeeper has a greater chance of getting on the pitch during the 90 minutes.

  23. So am I. Just over the border in Yoker now.

     

     

    I will ask Paul for an email addy for you and drop you a line, if thats ok.

  24. Dharma Bam& GourockEmeraldBhoy

     

     

    Apologies….ive been up for almost 48 hours without a break….need a sleep

     

     

     

    HH

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