In the grand scheme of things, it might not seem to matter that Celtic’s B team have no reserve league to compete in next season. It will not determine the outcome of the league title and will affect Premiership teams equally. The impact of what happens in reserve football are, however, real and long lasting.
For decades, Celtic have dominated Scottish youth leagues, yet the ability to transform players who shine in their age group into first team regulars is woeful. James Forrest, Callum McGregor and the superstar from Wishaw are all we are inclined to talk about since Paul McStay bookended the golden two decades 40 years ago. Compare that to the relative success of Hibs, Aberdeen, United, Motherwell, even Hamilton Accies!
Reasons for failures are usually complex and simplistic explanations by outsiders should come with a Dunning-Kruger health warning, but I know multiple iterations of Celtic coaches have bemoaned the lack of competition our development squads face.
A young David Turnbull at Motherwell would have taken midfield responsibility as his side battled teams of equal or greater ability. The same player at Celtic would play in a team that dominated possession every week and always faced weaker opponents. No one improves their sharpness, industry or skill continually facing weaker opposition.
The consequence of all this is that we can expect our finest talent to wither on the vine more often than grab a pitch-side megaphone unless and until they face better players week-in, week-out.
The perennial ‘Colts team’ proposition now sits with the Scottish Lowland League, which I do not expect is of a great standard, although many of their pitches are better than their SFL counterparts. It is better than nothing and possibly better that a Premiership Reserve league, however, if we want to reverse a 40 year trend, we will need to be far more creative.
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PHILBHOY on 7TH MAY 2021 8:34 AM
Slowly slowly catchy monkey (before the Hartlepoolers hang him).
If retaining the monarchy in the short term is a price to pay for independence I am happy to pay it.
PHILBHOY on 7TH MAY 2021 8:34 AM
FOURSTONECOPPI on 7TH MAY 2021 8:21 AM
PHILBHOY on 7TH MAY 2021 8:19 AM
I understand that if Scotland gain independence they will retain the Queen as head of state.
Even if we do..we take it then bump her once achieved……..or its boris for 20 or more years.
Please see sense!.
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You misunderstand me.
Independence without the the Royal Rabble from the outset.
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Yes Independence asap…and once achieved we can BUMP The Queen…OFF !
HH
I remember Mike and Bernie Winters from when I was young…….as funny as a boot in the Kelvin Halls…..there was another so called comedy Dupo who were often on TV when I was young…” ” HOPE and KEEN”….They were equally shocking.
I loved Big Eric Morecombe…I could NEVER stand his mate ERNIE Wise..As unfunny as Mike or Bernie.
Bernie winters made a living outta saying….” EEEEH….I’ll smash your face in”, will pulling a not so funny..funny face !
IMPOSTERS…..Just like Boris an Gove etc…
HH
Dupo ???….DUO !
BIG JIMMY on 7TH MAY 2021 8:36 AM
Celtic…You Broke my Heart…
Aye
while I think of Celtic at this precise moment…in the background I am playing the Song by TALKING HEADS…..its called ” ROAD to NOWHERE” !
Not very funny either.
HH
Big Jimmy, did you ever see Ken Dodd. I never saw him but his reviews were amazing. ?
I watched him on ” An audience with Ken Dodd” and he was genuinely funny. I wish I had seen him live.
HH.
Next up …a song for the next Celtic Manager…
” UB40…Many Rivers to Cross”.
Celtic broke my Heart.
HH.
David Bowie : Changes.
PHILBHOY @ 8.23
Whenever I read posts like this I usually have a chuckle , then an uneasy feeling creeps over me thinking it could actually happen , knowing our board !
GREENPINATA on 7TH MAY 2021 8:49 AM
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I never saw Ken Dodd either but he could have an audience laughing for HOURS at his concerts, according to documentaries and reports. he could be near the knuckle Live on stage” A funny Guy.
Likewise, Bob Monkhouse…He was apparently superb LIVE…and VERY near the knuckle…and very funny.
I DID see Frank Carson LIVE at a Pub in East Kilbride around 1979…He was SUPERB….and we were still laughing at his earlier Jokes while being 4 or 5 Jokes forward.
A support Group with a sexy Female singer, A Plate of Mince and Tatties, and Frank Carson for over Two hours on stage…ALL for £1.50 a head back then !
great value.
HH.
GLENDALYSTONSILS
Said in jest………………but you never know.
I remember Ken Dodd was taken to court and fined for telling the following joke on tv.
The joke was, briefly –
Women have more hair on their heads than men,
but men have more hair on their chests than women.
But on the whole women have more hair than men.
BIG JIMMY on 7TH MAY 2021 8:45 AM
I once read a review of M & BW appearing at the Glasgow Empire which was before even our time but well known as a legendary graveyard of London ‘comics’
The story goes MW was dying the proverbial death with his crap London EastEnd humour. As you describe oot walks the supposed funny man going “EEEEEEEE…”.
Member of the audience shouts out “Aw naw, there’s two o thum……”.
Hence my reference to them regarding our resident Project Fear double act.
BIG JIMMY.
Theres a great line in Road to Nowhere..
“We’re on the road to Paradise..here we go,here we go!!”👍
SQUIRE DANAHER on 7TH MAY 2021 7:09 AM
‘You are kaaarect about Hartlepool and the monkey. My Darlington born father in law loves telling the story.’
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It’s a great story. But it’s bollocks as anyone able to exercise any degree of critical analysis would realise. But it appeals to a lot of prejudices and so is popular.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-40801937
UNCLE JIMMY on 7TH MAY 2021 8:33 AM
Class consciousness has declined, as heavy industry has declined, and has been replaced by identity politics.
And foremost among the identities around which people coalesce is nationality, hence the growth in nationalism.
And the funny thing about nationalism is that everyone imagines their own is benign and progressive.
Yawns and logs off.
Ta PHILBHOY – on the whole, I still love a Viz-style joke.
Song?
Marvin Gaye: What’s Going On
Ernie
I would agree with that.
(and phrased a little better than my earlier post)
PHILBHOY on 7TH MAY 2021 9:01 AM
I remember Ken Dodd was taken to court and fined for telling the following joke on tv.
The joke was, briefly –
Women have more hair on their heads than men,
but men have more hair on their chests than women.
But on the whole women have more hair than men.
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Philbhoy – Now that is funny.
D :)
I believe Ken Dodd was the guest for one of those Anthony Clare programmes – ‘In the Psychiatrist’s chair’.
Apparently, it was on the lines of –
AC – ‘Now, Ken. it’s been said that your cheerful humorous demeanour is really a front and that you’re really not that happy a person after all.
Tears of a Clown and all that. What do you say ?’
KD – ‘I think that’s tattifilariously fantastic !’.
I do like the twitterati that always posts,
Is that true or did you hear it on the BBC
To all those Voters who STILL Voted for the Tories yesterday…hang your Heads in shame…..
You lot stood on your Doorsteps to CLAP for The NHS…..and this Tory scum Gov that you have Voted for, have stabbed the NHS Workers in the back…with the Lousy 1% pay rise to NHS Workers…..
ALL you Tory voters have a Feckin cheek to say that you somehow ” SUPPORT” the NHS Workers…
ERNIE LYNCH
You’re correct nationalism will always be around, its just that I prefer the Scandanavian version of social and civic nationalism which an Independent Scotland would have rather than an Imperialist British Nationalism that the Tory party, the Orange Order and other right wing groups glorify and support. Incidentally I’m not a avid supporter of the SNP but at this time they and the Greens are the only parties that would bring about Independence and let Scotland get back to normal politics where I think the Scottish Labour Party would once again have a big influence.
Lets hope this Celtic Board start communicating with the Celtic support and make decisions so that we can start having positive discussions about the football again.
GREENPINATA on 7TH MAY 2021 8:21 AM
Agree with what you say – a sensible post about Brexit in an otherwise sea of tripe. Like you, I voted remain, but as a democrat I accept the result and have moved on.
I always ask those who still appear ‘Brexit mad’, three questions:
1) What were you voting for when you voted against Brexit?
2) What difference has Brexit made to your life to date?
3) What difference do you think Brexit will make to your life in the future?
It is impossible to get a coherent answer – the vast majority just hate the people who advocated and fought for Brexit – “f****** Boris Johnson” is the usual reply to all three questions.
The quick answer to question 2 could of course be ” We have been vaccinated and protected against Covid much quicker than any other country in the EU”
More people voted Leave in Scotland(1.4m) than have ever vote for the SNPcult in any election, Holyrood, or, Westminster
” ALL you Tory Voters have a Feckin cheek to somehow CLAIM that you somehow ” SUPPORT” The NHS Workers ?……
UTTER Feckin BOLLOX !
Tory Cults everywhere..with Lying, Ratbag, CORRUPT Boris as the Leader AFF…
JHB on 7TH MAY 2021 10:29 AM
GREENPINATA on 7TH MAY 2021 8:21 AM
Agree with what you say – a sensible post about Brexit in an otherwise sea of tripe. Like you, I voted remain, but as a democrat I accept the result and have moved on.
I always ask those who still appear ‘Brexit mad’, three questions:
1) What were you voting for when you voted against Brexit?
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CHUMPS like you and the BORIS CULT Members…FARAGE and others…SIMPLES.
Take your ” We arra Peepil Union Jack TRIPE Elsewhere”
I believe that you are LYING…and in FACT…and YOU DID vote for Brexit
Thank God that I am an auld Bhoy….I may not be around when Brexit really impacts on ordinary folk ?
That should read as ” On ordinary DECENT Folk”
I’ve oft said on here that Celtic are doing nothing. I realise that’s not quite accurate.
Football clubs, by definition, do not operate in isolation. Like any sport, relative position to ones main opposition is important.
As Aberdeen and sevco are continuing to strengthen, so we continue to regress, relative to that.
Every day makes us weaker. Every day makes next season more of a challenge.
What is our model for next year? DoF? If so, do we intend to appoint before the manager? Would seem appropriate to do so.
I just don’t know.
In this instance, silence is not a sign of strength
IF and I say IF….The Scot Gov get the Majority it seeks….and IF Scotland becomes Independent…Then ALL you TORY/Boris loving CHUMPS can leave Scotland and head down south anytime…the sooner the better.
JHB
Keep up , in or out of the EU , we could have independently decided to run our own vaccine sourcing ….. responses below
1. Retention of strong European market to counter balance the Chinese and American; freedom of travel , spending lots of time in the sun when I retire , more opportunities for kids and grandkids to work and travel , sustained peace in Northern Ireland
2. Food prices have gone up but in the short term not a great deal
3. Long term , Scottish fishing industry will collapse ( impact will be the opposite of what the fishermen thought ) , Europeans will simply stop buying , wholesalers will look elsewhere : car industry will be gubbed in 10 years time : university sector cut back ; financial services gubbed ; regional aid from UK will be dependent on your constituency voting Tory etc etc etc etc
It’s awful
Interesting parting-shot from Shane Duffy.
“Thanks to the supporters and the players for helping me through a tough year on and off the field.
Not many know what goes on behind the scenes.”
Confirms to me what I have posted before about the negative reaction of certain players in the squad to SD”s announcement on the 11 October, designed to placate angry Brighton fans, that “Celtic is paying ALL my Brighton wages”.
JHB on 7th May 2021 10:29 am
Astounding lack of self awareness as usual, what harm has brexit done? Go have a look at the Hartlepool by election result.
Never done you any harm, absolutely, you voted for it, when you continually tell fibs on here every day eventually your memory lets you down.
Predicting the future is a mugs game , so after Johnson wins the next GE ( he’ll call a snap election in 28 months to 2 years – to gain a mandate for the next set of mad right wingery rubbish ) , Scottish Labour Party need to wake up and smell the coffee , break from London and get behind the Independence movement….
Yes EKBHOY..exactly!👍
BIG JIMMY on 7TH MAY 2021 10:43 AM
IF and I say IF….The Scot Gov get the Majority it seeks….and IF Scotland becomes Independent…Then ALL you TORY/Boris loving CHUMPS can leave Scotland and head down south anytime…the sooner the better.
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We know a song about that, don’t we, children?
How does it go again?
‘Why don’t you go home
why don’t you go home…..’