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93 days of this left, the farming of Patrick Roberts

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May is not out, the manager is not formally in place yet, but there’s an early bit of transfer rumblings underway as Celtic begin the process of building a squad for an attack on The Nine.

In response to speculation linking Celtic to one of his players, Motherwell chief exec, Alan Burrows, wrote on Twitter, “figures in papers are often educated stabs and not a true reflection on either what one/any club might be prepared to pay or the other might be prepared to accept.”

In short, any inquiry from Celtic for David Turnbull is at an early stage and conversations will not be around the figures reported.

We have 93 days like this until the transfer window closes….

Like you, I enjoyed watching Patrick Roberts.  He is a gifted player and good professional.  His could have been a permanent signing for Celtic but Pep Guardiola had other ideas.  Now he has signed a new contract, keeping him at at Manchester City for another three years, a club he will almost certainly never play competitively for, while simultaneously agreeing to a one year loan at newly promoted Norwich.

It is hard to escape agricultural metaphors when watching what the tier one clubs in England do with young talent.  They are a crop to hoard and sell, not to consume.  City paid Fulham £12m for Patrick four years ago.  His new contract will be worth several millions per year, and when his value is right, they will sell him.  This is a business model, independent of first team considerations.

A season in the English Premier League could be enough to raise a fee in excess of £20m, but there is a risk going to Norwich.  Patrick’s talents are most valuable unlocking packed defences.  Players of craft are less valued the further down the league you go, where robustness and counter-attacking football has become mandatory.

He would contribute his share in that Manchester City squad, or at Celtic, but his bit-part season at relegated Girona is a portent of what could lie ahead for him in Norwich.  At least he’ll be able to catch the tunes on North Norfolk Digital.

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  1. Fool Time Whistle on

    Apparently Peter Lawwell’s title is Executive Director, Head of Operations.

  2. Mahe the Madman on

    Bsr,,,

     

    ” As soon as BR reneged on his contract ”

     

    Sorry but that should actually be

     

    ” As soon as Leicester bought Brendans contract ”

     

    There was no reneging and I feel that’s very important to point out on behalf of my fellow Antrim man.

     

    Reneged nah,,, he was bought. Big difference.

     

    Hail Hail

  3. Mahe the Madman on

    Pog,,

     

    As it was known Brendan was leaving it would be a bit of stretch to think he was the final say on bringing in the Ukrainian.

     

    Who does that leave to give the ultimate go ahead?

     

    Hail Hail and goodnight Timland

  4. It is Time for Everyone to get right behind Neil, especially the Board, and get another Truly Remarkable 9 in a Row Titles.

     

     

    Huns and Sevco supporters Celebrating Neil being appointed as the Celtic Boss – Seriously.

     

     

    Something inside so strong. ;))

  5. The List…

     

     

    Melbourne Mick – Melbourne – Australia

     

     

    Prestonpans Bhoys – Prestonpans – Scotland

     

     

    Jobo Baldie – East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

    Hot Smoked – Arbroath – Scotland

     

     

    Chairbhoy – High Wycombe – England

     

     

    Park Road 67 – Girvan – Scotland

     

     

    Gene – Biddulph, – North Staffs – England

     

     

    PADDYMACOZ – Australia.

     

     

    BSR – Lower East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

    Fool time whistle – North Carolina – USA

     

     

    JamesGang – between Kew and Dunblane but always Glasgow in my heart

     

     

    JMcCormick – Wishae – Scotland

     

     

    Bada Bing – East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

    Knightswoodbhoy – Guess? – Scotland

     

     

    Glasgowbhoy – Edinburgh – Loveland

     

    Glasgowghirl – Edinburgh – Loveland

     

     

    Mncelt – Minnesota – USA

     

     

    BIGRAILROADBLUES – Govanhill – Scotland

     

     

    DRESDENCSC – Dresden – Germany

     

     

    Timhorton – Ontario – Canada

     

     

    Almore – Áth Cliath (De Nortside) – Éire.

     

     

    WITS – Áth Cliath (De Nortside) – Éire

     

     

    YogiHughes – Mayo – Ireland

     

     

    Bognorbhoy – Bognor Regis – England

     

     

    Thecelt45 – Houston – Texas – USA

     

     

    Sid – Stirling – Scotland

     

     

    Lazydynamite – Whitby,North Yorkshire, – England

     

     

    16 roads – Belfast – Ireland

     

     

    SFTB – Cambuslang – Scotland

     

     

    WBC – Cathkin Braes – Scotland

     

     

    Emeraldbee – South East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

    Fairhillbhoy – Hamilton – Scotland

     

     

    Hebcelt Stornoway Scotland

     

     

    McPhail Bhoy Dún na nGall, Éire

     

     

    Jc2- east kilbride

     

     

    Celtic Dawn – Fife via Dundalk

     

     

    Corkcelt – Body Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, Heart Cork City.

     

     

    GG —- New Jersey after having been formed in the wee green oasis of Plains

     

     

    Roy croppie Newton nr Cambuslang after a life sentence in airdrie

     

     

    Silver City 1888- Stirling – Scotland

     

     

    Mahe the madman – Sonora, Central California, The U , S of A .

     

     

    Owen – Cork via lurgan Co Armagh.

     

     

    Omacelt, Omagh Ireland, but Derry born and bred.

     

     

    Saint Stivs – port glasgow, a little green oasis

     

     

    POGMATHONYAHUN AKA LAIRD OF THE SMILES – Forres, Morayshire.

     

     

    Jinkyredstar- The beautiful island of Bute

     

     

    petec – Dumbarton

     

     

    fleagle1888 -Auckland (NZ)

     

     

    David66- Garngad via Knightswood- Scotland

     

     

    Fergusslayedtheblues -Garngad -Scotland

     

     

    IHTCMM- North Yorkshire – Engerlund

     

     

    Philbhoy – Bo’ness Scotland

     

     

    Allgreen – Kirkcaldy

     

     

    Gerry – The Brig

     

     

    Neil Armstrong – The Moon or possibly A FilmSet in Nevada

     

     

    LennyBhoy – Coatbridge

     

     

    Kevinlasvegas – Airdrie

     

     

    Bateen Bhoy from Aberdeen via Abu Dhabi and Hoooston

     

     

    tusker- Sutherland, Scotland, via SE England, now Song, Thailand.

     

     

    INIQUITOUSIV signing in from Washington DC, United States of Trump.

     

     

    Parheadcumsalford – Largs, never left Parkhead in spirit.

     

     

    BigYinMilan – Butny to Lyon via Boston, New Haven, Oxford, Milan and points in between.

     

     

    POR CIERTO – Puerto de Mazarron, usually at the the top of the Gallowgate in Parkhead

     

     

    TOMMYB – Calton – Carfin, with a few stops on the way.

     

     

    The hour is late. Celtic are creating so much History these days it can be taken for granted.

     

     

    Sign of the Times?

     

     

    As Jerusalem comes into the picture more and mair now.

  6. Good Morning All – Warm June Morning here in the Chilterns, Summer!?

     

     

     

    Melbourne Mick – Melbourne – Australia

     

     

     

    Prestonpans Bhoys – Prestonpans – Scotland

     

     

     

    Jobo Baldie – East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

     

    Hot Smoked – Arbroath – Scotland

     

     

     

    Chairbhoy – High Wycombe – England

     

     

     

    Park Road 67 – Girvan – Scotland

     

     

     

    Gene – Biddulph, – North Staffs – England

     

     

     

    PADDYMACOZ – Australia.

     

     

     

    BSR – Lower East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

     

    Fool time whistle – North Carolina – USA

     

     

     

    JamesGang – between Kew and Dunblane but always Glasgow in my heart

     

     

     

    JMcCormick – Wishae – Scotland

     

     

     

    Bada Bing – East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

     

    Knightswoodbhoy – Guess? – Scotland

     

     

     

    Glasgowbhoy – Edinburgh – Scotland

     

     

     

    Glasgowghirl – Edinburgh – Scotland

     

     

     

    Mncelt – Minnesota – USA

     

     

     

    BIGRAILROADBLUES – Govanhill – Scotland

     

     

     

    DRESDENCSC – Dresden – Germany

     

     

     

    Timhorton – Ontario – Canada

     

     

     

    Almore – Áth Cliath (De Nortside) – Éire.

     

     

     

    WITS – Áth Cliath (De Nortside) – Éire

     

     

     

    YogiHughes – Mayo – Ireland

     

     

     

    Bognorbhoy – Bognor Regis – England

     

     

     

    Thecelt45 – Houston – Texas – USA

     

     

     

    Sid – Stirling – Scotland

     

     

     

    Lazydynamite – Whitby,North Yorkshire, – England

     

     

     

    16 roads – Belfast – Ireland

     

     

     

    SFTB – Cambuslang – Scotland

     

     

     

    WBC – Cathkin Braes – Scotland

     

     

     

    Emeraldbee – South East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

     

    Fairhillbhoy – Hamilton – Scotland

     

     

     

    Hebcelt Stornoway Scotland

     

     

     

    McPhail Bhoy Dún na nGall, Éire

     

     

     

    Jc2- east kilbride

     

     

     

    Celtic Dawn – Fife via Dundalk

     

     

     

    Corkcelt – Body Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, Heart Cork City.

     

     

     

    GG —- New Jersey after having been formed in the wee green oasis of Plains

     

     

     

    Roy croppie Newton nr Cambuslang after a life sentence in airdrie

     

     

     

    Silver City 1888- Stirling – Scotland

     

     

     

    Mahe the madman – Sonora, Central California, The U , S of A .

     

     

     

    Owen – Cork via lurgan Co Armagh.

     

     

     

    Omacelt, Omagh Ireland, but Derry born and bred.

     

     

     

    Saint Stivs – port glasgow, a little green oasis

     

     

     

     

    POGMATHONYAHUN AKA LAIRD OF THE SMILES – Forres, Morayshire.

     

     

     

    Jinkyredstar- The beautiful island of Bute

     

     

     

    Peter – Dumbarton

     

     

     

    fleagle1888 -Auckland (NZ)

     

     

     

    David66- Garngad via Knightswood- Scotland

     

     

     

    Fergusslayedtheblues -Garngad -Scotland

     

     

     

    IHTCMM- North Yorkshire – Engerlund

     

     

     

    Philbhoy – Bo’ness Scotland

     

     

     

    Allgreen – Kirkcaldy

     

     

     

    Gerry – The Brig

     

     

     

    Neil Armstrong – The Moon or possibly A FilmSet in Nevada

     

     

     

    LennyBhoy – Coatbridge

     

     

     

    Kevinlasvegas – Airdrie

     

     

    Bateen Bhoy from Aberdeen via Abu Dhabi and Hoooston

     

     

    tusker- Sutherland, Scotland, via SE England, now Song, Thailand.

     

     

    INIQUITOUSIV signing in from Washington DC, United States of Trump.

     

     

    Parheadcumsalford – Largs, never left Parkhead in spirit.

     

     

    BigYinMilan – Butny to Lyon via Boston, New Haven, Oxford, Milan and points in between.

     

     

    POR CIERTO – Puerto de Mazarron, usually at the the top of the Gallowgate in Parkhead

     

     

    TOMMYB – Calton – Carfin, with a few stops on the way.

     

     

    GREENPINATA – Anniesland, 25% of the year.

     

     

     

     

    Hail Hail

  7. Good morning CQN from a very wet and windy Garngad and the weather isn’t great either?

     

     

    As we watch Liverpool returning from Madrid with the Cup, their fans line the streets.

     

     

    Obviously their council and club know how to plan things.

     

     

    Think back to last week and Glasgows shambles of a parade for the tr3ble tr3ble, the council and Celtic are a joke. I said at the time standing in the rain that the bus was never coming through the crowds as there was no barriers to distinguish roads from pavements. Also the police were just walking about, no order or preparations or was this deliberate on the council part. It certainly seems so as I could have organised that shambles better.

     

     

    Anyway Hail Hail

     

     

    D. :)

  8. twentyfirstofmay1979 on

    DAVID66,

     

     

    As you say , it was indeed a shambles. I initially couldnt believe we were hosting a Rugby Cup Final on the day of the Scottish Cup Final and there was no attempt whatsoever from Police Scotland to ensure the bus would get through. Only in this country ……..

     

     

    HH

  9. FOOL TIME WHISTLE @ 12:24 AM,

     

     

    Apparently Peter Lawwell’s title is Executive Director, Head of Operations.

     

     

    Interesting and when you look at what’s been happening over the last 18 months or so the issues become apparent.

     

     

    Obviously in his role as head of operations, he means all operations including football.

     

     

    Brendan Rodgers saw himself as head of football, a clear conflict of roles and responsibilities.

     

     

    Keeping to one side that were supposedly a Football Club… first and foremost.

     

     

    If a business has the same person in the role of Chief Executive and Chief Operations Officer you would expect that business to be very small.

     

     

    Isn’t it just crazy to have this situation in a business turning over £100M.

     

     

    Also surely conflicts abound, the way you’d incentivise a CEO is surely very different to the way you’d incentivise a COO.

     

     

    Who makes sure the COO is doing their job properly?

     

     

    Over the years I’ve seen a great deal of criticism of PL…

     

     

    Autocrat

     

     

    Micro-manager

     

     

    Pure Communications

     

     

    Secretive

     

     

    Etc Etc

     

     

    In the last year I’d argue all of that has been proven to be the case. The man has undoubted talents and abilities, Yet without the checks and balances of a proper structure with someone in a position of authority for many years the weaknesses are bound to come to the fore.

     

     

    For me the restructuring of Celtic PLC and Celtic Football Club is long overdue.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  10. Cosy Corner Bhoy on

    For Melbourne Mick’s list:

     

    Cosy Corner Bhoy Kilwinning (via Ardrossan) .Location of Mother Lodge No.0 of Freemasonry!

  11. Cosy Corner Bhoy on

    Re PL’s ‘conflict of opinion ‘ in dual capacity role ‘ ,the green keeper is also the Greens Convener at my golf club!!

     

    It astounds me but doesn’t seem to bother many others.

  12. Melbourne Mick – Melbourne – Australia

     

     

     

    Prestonpans Bhoys – Prestonpans – Scotland

     

     

     

    Jobo Baldie – East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

     

    Hot Smoked – Arbroath – Scotland

     

     

     

    Chairbhoy – High Wycombe – England

     

     

     

    Park Road 67 – Girvan – Scotland

     

     

     

    Gene – Biddulph, – North Staffs – England

     

     

     

    PADDYMACOZ – Australia.

     

     

     

    BSR – Lower East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

     

    Fool time whistle – North Carolina – USA

     

     

     

    JamesGang – between Kew and Dunblane but always Glasgow in my heart

     

     

     

    JMcCormick – Wishae – Scotland

     

     

     

    Bada Bing – East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

     

    Knightswoodbhoy – Guess? – Scotland

     

     

     

     

    Glasgowbhoy – Edinburgh – Scotland

     

     

     

    Glasgowghirl – Edinburgh – Scotland

     

     

     

    Mncelt – Minnesota – USA

     

     

     

    BIGRAILROADBLUES – Govanhill – Scotland

     

     

     

    DRESDENCSC – Dresden – Germany

     

     

     

    Timhorton – Ontario – Canada

     

     

     

    Almore – Áth Cliath (De Nortside) – Éire.

     

     

     

    WITS – Áth Cliath (De Nortside) – Éire

     

     

     

    YogiHughes – Mayo – Ireland

     

     

     

    Bognorbhoy – Bognor Regis – England

     

     

     

    Thecelt45 – Houston – Texas – USA

     

     

     

    Sid – Stirling – Scotland

     

     

     

    Lazydynamite – Whitby,North Yorkshire, – England

     

     

     

    16 roads – Belfast – Ireland

     

     

     

    SFTB – Cambuslang – Scotland

     

     

     

    WBC – Cathkin Braes – Scotland

     

     

     

    Emeraldbee – South East Kilbride – Scotland

     

     

     

    Fairhillbhoy – Hamilton – Scotland

     

     

     

    Hebcelt Stornoway Scotland

     

     

     

    McPhail Bhoy Dún na nGall, Éire

     

     

     

    Jc2- east kilbride

     

     

     

    Celtic Dawn – Fife via Dundalk

     

     

     

    Corkcelt – Body Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, Heart Cork City.

     

     

     

    GG —- New Jersey after having been formed in the wee green oasis of Plains

     

     

     

    Roy croppie Newton nr Cambuslang after a life sentence in airdrie

     

     

     

    Silver City 1888- Stirling – Scotland

     

     

     

     

    Mahe the madman – Sonora, Central California, The U , S of A .

     

     

     

    Owen – Cork via lurgan Co Armagh.

     

     

     

    Omacelt, Omagh Ireland, but Derry born and bred.

     

     

     

    Saint Stivs – port glasgow, a little green oasis

     

     

     

     

    POGMATHONYAHUN AKA LAIRD OF THE SMILES – Forres, Morayshire.

     

     

     

    Jinkyredstar- The beautiful island of Bute

     

     

     

    Peter – Dumbarton

     

     

     

    fleagle1888 -Auckland (NZ)

     

     

     

    David66- Garngad via Knightswood- Scotland

     

     

     

    Fergusslayedtheblues -Garngad -Scotland

     

     

     

     

    IHTCMM- North Yorkshire – Engerlund

     

     

     

    Philbhoy – Bo’ness Scotland

     

     

     

    Allgreen – Kirkcaldy

     

     

     

    Gerry – The Brig

     

     

     

    Neil Armstrong – The Moon or possibly A FilmSet in Nevada

     

     

     

    LennyBhoy – Coatbridge

     

     

     

    Kevinlasvegas – Airdrie

     

     

     

    Bateen Bhoy from Aberdeen via Abu Dhabi and Hoooston

     

     

     

    Thomthethim – Donegal, via East Kilbride and Maryhill NW, Glasgow.

     

     

    Tusker- Sutherland, Scotland, via SE England, now Song, Thailand.

     

     

     

    INIQUITOUSIV signing in from Washington DC, United States of Trump.

     

     

     

    Parheadcumsalford – Largs, never left Parkhead in spirit.

     

     

     

    BigYinMilan – Butny to Lyon via Boston, New Haven, Oxford, Milan and points in between.

     

     

     

    POR CIERTO – Puerto de Mazarron, usually at the the top of the Gallowgate in Parkhead

     

     

     

    TOMMYB – Calton – Carfin, with a few stops on the way.

     

     

     

    GREENPINATA – Anniesland, 25% of the year.

     

     

     

    Cosy Corner Bhoy – Kilwinning (via Ardrossan) .Location of Mother Lodge No.0 of Freemasonry!

     

     

    Hail Hail

  13. lets all do the huddle ? on

    any chance folk can stop reposting those very long lists of cqn-ers and their location

     

     

    it makes scrolling a pain in the arse

  14. LETS ALL DO THE HUDDLE ? on 3RD JUNE 2019 9:51 AM

     

    “any chance folk can stop reposting those very long lists of cqn-ers and their location it makes scrolling a pain in the arse”

     

     

    It’s a hard life, eh? :)) por cierto

  15. Especially when the list is incorrect, and has been for a considerable period. But, it is PL’s fault, or BR’s or NFL’s…!

  16. Por Cierto :-)))) ! ( I was thinking along similar lines :-)) )

     

     

     

    The other day, someone posted Lennie`s stats at Celtic compared to Brendan`s. Can anyone either direct me to thta post or give me the stats? I want to shut up the ` Oh, we are so glad you have appointed Lennon` Huns.

     

     

    JJ

  17. Go tell the Spartim on

    Hot Smoked

     

     

    Can you not just say Lenny’s already won the league against the original rangers who had a better team than the tribute act, i find that works quite well

  18. Spartim

     

    I will certainly include that but I would like the other stats as well.

     

    JJ

  19. Aha !

     

    Club From Until Hons Games per Honour W D L Total Win%

     

    Celtic 2010 Now 4 57 159 30 39 228 69.74

  20. Fractionally higher % than Brendan managed and I know stats don`t paint the whole picture but they will when I present them to my Hun acquaintances :-)

     

     

    JJ

  21. weebobbycollins on

    Corkcelt…I have to agree with your post from last night re attack on CQNers…the language used was awful…hysteria slowly creeping on to that site now after a promising start…shame really, because Mahe and Bmcuw are good guys…it only takes one bad banana…

     

    Regards…

  22. FOOL TIME WHISTLE on 3RD JUNE 2019 12:24 AM

     

     

     

    ‘Apparently Peter Lawwell’s title is Executive Director, Head of Operations.’

     

     

    *****

     

     

    Well that should cut down on the medical bill a bit.

  23. While I`m in the mood. We often here of how dreadful Scottish Football is ( ever since Sevco were born , it would seem) and that it is too easy for Celtic. That being so, why did Celtic fail to win in ELEVEN of the League games we played?

     

    Also, when those who proclaim how dreadful the football is, with which countries are they comparing ?

     

     

    JJ

  24. weebobbycollins on

    Btw…TET is not usually that kind of poster, so, perhaps something else was getting to him…

  25. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    Just as I was about to start a list for those of us whose names hadn’t appeared on MM’s list, there I was, duly added , thanks to Chairbhoy’s update.

  26. Interesting wee story online

     

     

    ITV’s Scotland correspondent Peter Adam Smith has revealed on Twitter that he has had a chat with Benitez regarding his situation at Newcastle.

     

    Smith has disclosed that Benitez told him he had consulted former Rangers scout McParland about the Celtic managerial job, and that the Spaniard is open to taking charge of the Glasgow giants in the future.

     

     

     

    Smith’s tweets said :-

     

     

    “Interesting chat with Rafa Benitez. He’s still in the dark about his future at Newcastle & any takeover bid. Also told me he consulted his friend Frank McParland (ex-Rangers scout) about the prospect of the Celtic job. He decided against for now, but would consider it in future.

     

    He told me there were no talks held with Celtic, but he was very aware of being linked with the job.”

     

     

     

    This could be nothing more than a polite declining of a job he never intended to take, or an attempt to tell Mike Ashley he had other options but the interesting bit for me is the Deniability involved i.e. Benitez was aware of speculation linking him but, rather than dismiss it as tabloid gossip and pie-in -the-sky, he talks it over with someone he thinks is familiar with the Scottish landscape.

     

     

    There are so many back-door approaches to tapping up players and managers these days that when PL says “we never considered anyone but NFL” you’re best to take that with a large pinch of “Aye, did ye?”

     

     

    From my own point of view, Benitez was likely to get more attractive offers than Celtic and he is being polite here but Davie Moyes, and his agent, did not show up here because of a sudden interest in the Scottish game. I believe nothing I read in the tabloids and even the quotes from players and managers have to be read with a code key that most of us don’t have.

     

     

    That’s probably why we rely so much on body language interpretation :-)

  27. Hot smoked: these from Wikipedia: managerial stats for BR and NFL:

     

    P W D L % win

     

    Brendan 20 May 2016 26 February 2019 169 118 25 26 69.82

     

    Neil – 1 25 March 2010 22 May 2014 227 159 29 39 70.0

     

    Neil – 2 26 February 2019 Present 14 10 3 1 71.4