Bobby Clark was the first Aberdeen goalkeeper I knew. He was thought of highly, until Jim Leighton and colleagues stepped the performance levels up a pace at Aberdeen. He has two places in the history books, one for the longest period not to concede a goal in Scottish league football, which when established in 1971 was also the European record. He was also the first goalkeeper in European competition to face a penalty in a penalty kick competition.
Back in the dark days of the late 90s I had a Celtic mug with the message ‘Records can be broken but history can never be changed: Celtic, first British team to win the European Cup, 1967’. Bobby Clark lost his European record within months and at Tynecastle next week Fraser Forster can break his Scottish record. Bobby’s place as first to face a penalty competition is his in perpetuity.
Records are harder to break than they should be. People get nervous when they approach, but it will be enormously satisfying if Celtic can sail through 31 minutes at Tynecastle without conceding.
Back in 2011 and early 2012 practically the entire CQN community was discussing Rangers impending insolvency event as an absolute certainty, but we’ve never been the most impartial community. It was not until Daily Record journos stopped applying to Our Hero for a job and suggested ‘this excrement is about to get real’ that the penny dropped in many places.
This included portions of the Celtic support, who responded to the ‘news’ with a Congo line at Inverness, at the same time forever changing the substance of jelly and ice cream; a kind of transubstantiation, if you like. This was no longer a sweet, it is nourishment for the ages.
Now the same newspaper has been authorised to run a story that there is doubt over this month’s payroll – would they dare suggest as much without authorisation? When your friends are telling you they can hear the bell toll, you know where this is heading.
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Hamiltontim:
Don’t you know your history, there’d be no sectarian issue today if the Irish hadn’t invade England in the 1500’s, raped, pillaged and murdered, tried to ethnically cleanse the population and its culture, stole the lands of from all the rightful owners and banished the populace to Cumbria to scrape a living from the shallow soil, robbed the populace of all its wealth, took their crops for export when a famine swept their homeland, profited from their misery as they tried to flea their shores on disease infected ships, destroyed all written history of their past including the Magna Carta, (The Magna Carta now there was a good wee read for ten minutes in the bog) taunted and ridiculed them their language, publically executed their leaders, publically executed their clergy. Nah there’d be nothing for attention seekers to post on here if Ireland hadn’t’ve been so bellicose and aggressive.
I think I might just post a few of the atrocities the British visited upon the world, just in case some on the blog might be really interested as to how much blood this country really took. Just for the sake of debate like.
Frank Ryan’s Whiskey
08:52 on
18 February, 2014
It is all going to unravel in an English court. Unfortunately not until 2015 though.
I remember when Rangers were liquidated, happy as a lark I was.
Then shortly afterwards on tv, I saw the now sevco manager McSleekit parading around in Rangers kit, stars and all.
I say to myself, hows that possible then.
Let me get this straight…the manager of a newly constructed team( Sevco), is wearing the kit of a team( Rangers), who were liquidated, deceased, and now defunct. Same colours, same badge, same stars.
I am still scratching my head over that one.
HH
Top of the morning to you all from a spring-like Fife, where the weather is fine if a bit cloudy.
The final statement by FAC on the Roll of Honour song highlights the absurdity of the OB Act whereby an Irish nationalist song is proscribed by the laws of a Scottish nationalist government.
With so much talk about the Lord Nimmo Smith judgement I looked up some stuff I have on the Speculative Society of Edinburgh and was interested to see that on the 16th of March 1972 William Austin Nimmo Smith, then an advocate had composed and recited an essay to his fellow Spec members in the Old College buildings of the University of Edinburgh posing the two part question: “Does it matter if we win or lose, or if we play the game?”
With his recent pronouncements on the old Rangers it seems to me that he has little understanding of the second part of his question.
The lawyer acting as President that night was Andrew Lothian.
When some of our lawyer posters come on here telling you about the high standards of the law and lawyers in Scotland it might be well that you have a look at the careers of the two mentioned here to from your own view of the standards of excellence or otherwise?
gg and the green man,
Excellent posts by the two of you guys this morning, well reasoned and bereft of some of the normal jelly and ice cream fairytale nonsense (with respect guys) that we read about on here.
Charlotte has been widely known about for some time, the EBT’s and the rest for even longer, this is the single biggest sporting scandal to ever hit the sporting industry and quite possibly the banking industry (outside of the GFC) in this country and virtually not one journalist has even scratched at the surface. Mark Daly to his credit touched it and let it go quicker than if you picked up a red-hot poker. Alex Thompson started to get into it, a guy who has been on the front line of some of the worst conflicts in the world, he also backed off when the REAL heat was applied. Make no mistake, this entire escapade goes to the very top of the Scottish establishment and they will do whatever it takes to make sure that they all maintain their positions. Not one of them has even been hung out to dry as the traditional scapegoat would have been by now. Ask yourself one question, the guy who sold the original club for one pound and who for the previous 20 years was in the newspapers on almost a daily basis has quite simply vanished from view, no questions have been put to him, asked of him. Does anyone know where this guy even is. Why?
Can you imagine if this was a guy who had sold Celtic for a quid, walked away and the same thing had happened to our club? he would have been hunted down to the ends of the earth by the self same journalists.
The entire episode is rotten, it stinks to the high heavens but there are strong powers who will do whatever it takes to bury it deep, I believe that the status quo will return as soon as they can possibly put it in place.
AR
Big Nan
The Speculative Society, got a whiff of the old Skull and Bones about it.
Very Sinister.
HH
Happy birdie to me, happy birdie to me…
Happy birdie dear me-e, happy birdie to me……hehe…!!!!
gearoid1998
08:58 on 18 February, 2014
Murdochbhoy@7.50
Willie Frazer is an absolute clown of a man and a very poor excuse for a human being. Not the first time he has been asked to apologise to a catholic school.
Last year a primary school in Armagh was receiving a European delegation and flew an Italian tricolour. Thinking it was an Irish tricolour???? Willie went off on one (as he is wont to do) claiming that the school was a training ground for the junior IRA. Within the North Irish context a vert dangerous claim to make. We can only thank god that it wasn’t a visiting delegation from the Ivory Coast.
Allah has most definitely seen fit to leave slates off of Willies roof.
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Very true,mate.
I am the proud owner of a Côte d’Ivoire top,and it is much commented on when I wear it back home in Kilwinning.
This one,to be precise.
cote d’ivoire football shirts
antipodean red
09:14 on 18 February, 2014
I demand your name and address……….so that I can send you some Jelly & Ice Cream.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Blinkin’ Masonic conspiracy,won’t c&p!
But it’s a belter anyway….
http://www.jerseysmark.com/html/upload/item_img/201001/1/0126309769195166c91CotedIvoireAway.jpg
Burning Bush.
A mighty fine 3 part Czech Tv drama re the politically motivated suicide of Jan Pallach . Very good on the depths plumbed by the Soviet Union and its craven corrupt Czech lackeys as they attempted to convince the Czechoslovak people that Jan Pallach had been manipulated/ duped by the forces of western imperialism .
Highly recommended !
67Heaven
There aint no jelly and ice cream, just like there aint no sanity clause:)
HH
Kit
1171 during the reign of Henry II.
“They were asking for it!”
Will be the reply of some.
67Heaven
Many happy returns to you, have a splendid day.
antipodean red
09:14 on 18 February, 2014
To be serious for a moment (but ONLY for a moment)…….excellent / powerful post……I get the impression, though, that this will go beyond the Scottish Football Establishment and, in the final analysis, they will all reap what the sowed, the lot of them……..
Hamiltontim:
Aye see all those Paddies in the Zulu tribe, they were asking for it too.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC
09:18 on
18 February, 2014
Re Ivory coast football kits. I also have an Ivory Coast away strip from a few seasons ago –
a tasteful blend of Green White and Orange . The only downside being it is a Puma top so i am loathe to wear it now.
I worked in the Ivory coast on many occasions over the years and the look of consternation on the faces of newly arrived oilfield Huns when they spotted the Ivorian national flag was very funny. You could see their brains whirring WTF is that, are there African Fenians ?
The green man has pretty much outlined the shenanigans for what they are or were
(they have got us so confused we dont even know which tense they are in, past or present)
How come they got liquidated and then they are playing in the same park with the same jersey and the same name
How come?
past tense by the way and always will be
the green man
09:25 on 18 February, 2014
Who says there aint no sanity clause….?…..put em up …..and their aint no jelly & ice cream, ?what’s that I’ve got on a plate in the freezer, then……..???????
67Heaven
Nothing will happen….the hun hoardes will be back at CP very soon.
Don’t say you weren’t warned.
BTW, Many happy returns
HH
67 HEAVEN
Hmmm,I reckon all concerned will be remembering the words of Benjamin Franklin.
We must all hang together,or assuredly we will hang separately.
If their wall of silence is maintained,they will be difficult to undermine.
Hamiltontim:
I wonder why the book -Late Victorian Holocausts: El Nino Famines and the Making of the Third World by Mike Davis, is not taught in any British school.
Or Web of Deceit by Mark Curtis
Or Britain’s Gulag by Caroline Elkins
As John O’Neil said, it’s good to look at both sides of the story.
FRANK RYAN’S WHISKEY
Aye,that’ll be the one.
Confused the life outa people.
In Kilwinning,you could hear their minds creaking wi the possibility of being termed racist for giving me pelters for wearing it.
Maybe… Histories of the Hanged: Britain’s Dirty War in Kenya and the End of Empire by David Anderson
67Heaven
Happy B-Day, have a good one.
67 Heaven
Happy birthday sir
Antipodean red
Your post is far too realistic.
Gimme some hope my friend.
I’d settle for Minty & Ogilvie in the pokey and Sevco going bust , selling the Bigotdome to Asda and all mention of them and their predecessor consigned to the slag heap of history.
Now , is that too much to ask for ?
Maybe… Wherever Green is worn by Tim Pat Coogan
BMCUW
or anyone else have an idea where to Get the Catalan National team strip ?
Maybe… White Cargo: The Forgotten History of Britain’s White Slaves in America by Don Jordan
the green man
09:32 on 18 February, 2014
They’ve nae money………and ‘MONEY (TICK) TOCKS’, even to the deed……bye bye, ye plukes on the backside of humanity
They came as slaves; vast human cargo transported on tall British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.
Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. They were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.
We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade.
But, are we talking about African slavery? King James II and Charles I also led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.
The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.
Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.
From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.
During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.
Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.
As an example, the African slave trade was just beginning during this same period. It is well recorded that African slaves, not tainted with the stain of the hated Catholic theology and more expensive to purchase, were often treated far better than their Irish counterparts.
African slaves were very expensive during the late 1600s (50 Sterling). Irish slaves came cheap (no more than 5 Sterling). If a planter whipped or branded or beat an Irish slave to death, it was never a crime. A death was a monetary setback, but far cheaper than killing a more expensive African. The English masters quickly began breeding the Irish women for both their own personal pleasure and for greater profit. Children of slaves were themselves slaves, which increased the size of the master’s free workforce. Even if an Irish woman somehow obtained her freedom, her kids would remain slaves of her master. Thus, Irish moms, even with this new found emancipation, would seldom abandon their kids and would remain in servitude.
In time, the English thought of a better way to use these women (in many cases, girls as young as 12) to increase their market share: The settlers began to breed Irish women and girls with African men to produce slaves with a distinct complexion. These new “mulatto” slaves brought a higher price than Irish livestock and, likewise, enabled the settlers to save money rather than purchase new African slaves. This practice of interbreeding Irish females with African men went on for several decades and was so widespread that, in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of producing slaves for sale.” In short, it was stopped only because it interfered with the profits of a large slave transport company.
England continued to ship tens of thousands of Irish slaves for more than a century. Records state that, after the 1798 Irish Rebellion, thousands of Irish slaves were sold to both America and Australia. There were horrible abuses of both African and Irish captives. One British ship even dumped 1,302 slaves into the Atlantic Ocean so that the crew would have plenty of food to eat.
There is little question that the Irish experienced the horrors of slavery as much (if not more in the 17th Century) as the Africans did. There is, also, very little question that those brown, tanned faces you witness in your travels to the West Indies are very likely a combination of African and Irish ancestry. In 1839, Britain finally decided on it’s own to end it’s participation in Satan’s highway to hell and stopped transporting slaves. While their decision did not stop pirates from doing what they desired, the new law slowly concluded THIS chapter of nightmarish Irish misery.
But, if anyone, black or white, believes that slavery was only an African experience, then they’ve got it completely wrong.
Irish slavery is a subject worth remembering, not erasing from our memories.
But, where are our public (and PRIVATE) schools???? Where are the history books? Why is it so seldom discussed?
Do the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims merit more than a mention from an unknown writer?
Or is their story to be one that their English pirates intended: To (unlike the African book) have the Irish story utterly and completely disappear as if it never happened.
None of the Irish victims ever made it back to their homeland to describe their ordeal. These are the lost slaves; the ones that time and biased history books conveniently forgot.
BMCUW
I recall one day long ago when i was an apprentice on the clyde
A group of workers were going to the nearby masons club for a pint at lunchtime and asked me to join them
I declined, and was then deemed a bigot for NOT going to the masons club
this is the scottish mentality
John O’Neil:
do you want to discuss any of the nasty British atrocities and those pesky Chelsea supporters or is it just reactive Irish atrocities you would like the blog to talk about?
Thank you for all your kind wishes……..HH