A kind of transubstantiation


Bobby Clark was the first Aberdeen goalkeeper I knew.  He was thought of highly, until Jim Leighton and colleagues stepped the performance levels up a pace at Aberdeen.  He has two places in the history books, one for the longest period not to concede a goal in Scottish league football, which when established in 1971 was also the European record.  He was also the first goalkeeper in European competition to face a penalty in a penalty kick competition.

Back in the dark days of the late 90s I had a Celtic mug with the message ‘Records can be broken but history can never be changed: Celtic, first British team to win the European Cup, 1967’.  Bobby Clark lost his European record within months and at Tynecastle next week Fraser Forster can break his Scottish record.  Bobby’s place as first to face a penalty competition is his in perpetuity.

Records are harder to break than they should be.  People get nervous when they approach, but it will be enormously satisfying if Celtic can sail through 31 minutes at Tynecastle without conceding.

Back in 2011 and early 2012 practically the entire CQN community was discussing Rangers impending insolvency event as an absolute certainty, but we’ve never been the most impartial community.  It was not until Daily Record journos stopped applying to Our Hero for a job and suggested ‘this excrement is about to get real’ that the penny dropped in many places.

This included portions of the Celtic support, who responded to the ‘news’ with a Congo line at Inverness, at the same time forever changing the substance of jelly and ice cream; a kind of transubstantiation, if you like.  This was no longer a sweet, it is nourishment for the ages.

Now the same newspaper has been authorised to run a story that there is doubt over this month’s payroll – would they dare suggest as much without authorisation?  When your friends are telling you they can hear the bell toll, you know where this is heading.

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  1. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on




    11:46 on 18 February, 2014



    Not yet…..hehe

  2. leftclicktic We are all Neil Lennon on

    67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors




  3. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on




    11:48 on 18 February, 2014



    Last I heard, they were all sold……

  4. traditionalist88 on

    Geordie Munro



    Yes, a logistical nightmare multiplied by 10 when you have one of our games administrators trying to solve it!



    Currently there are two empty sections between the Main Stand and the Jock Stein – move Aberdeen fans from 111/112 to these and move the ICT fans up a couple of sections behind the goal.




  5. lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar:



    If I’m not mistaken both the Mail and the Guardian carried stories about it, just lately, but I’m buggered if I’m going to post any links whilst I’m still waiting for links.



    Mate I’ve got to go to bed, I’m up at 4.30 but before I go, check out Diego Garcia.

  6. Oh and don’t forget the Famine in India and the British exporting all the crops and how many millions died. 10? 12? 14? 16? 18? 20?

  7. Steinreignedsupreme on

    Re: Swinecastle



    Controversially, I would have chosen it as the venue for our Champions League qualifier instead of Murrayfield.

  8. lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar on




    Thanks again mate, .Yes I know a little bit about Diego Garcia, but a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, so Ill check out more ! Sleep well.








    Possibly the most electric atmosphere in any football stadium I’ve ever experienced is at Tynecastle.



    Aye,much of it is the wrong kind,but it absolutely crackles!

  10. BMCUWP



    There’s a crowd says I’m alright


    Say they like my turn of phrase


    Take me round to their parties


    Like some dressed up monkey in a cage.


    And I play my accordion


    Oh! but when the wine seeps through the facade


    It’s nothing but the same old story


    Nothing but the same old story



    Powerful stuff indeed, good link but the version from The Island CD is better with full accompaniment IMHO of course.



    Here is link for the book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nothing-But-Same-Old-Story/dp/1901005003





    Diego Garcia?



    A faraway place about which we know nothing,but since it’s ours and the yanks want an airbase,let’s kick the indigenous population tae f…



    That the one?



    Aye,the Empire could be a force for good,and there’s no denying that. But abuse of power always awaits.



    And it’s always the innocent who suffer.

  12. Stolen island: the shameful story of Diego Garcia hits the stage



    The people of Diego Garcia, a British colony in the Indian Ocean, were thrown off their island to make way for a US military base. Lyn Gardner on how their story was made into a play





    The Guardian, Thursday 16 February 2012 09.00 AEST





    How would you feel if you left the UK for your annual holiday and were then told you could never come back? That’s what happened to the people of Diego Garcia, the only inhabited island in Chagos Archipelago in the Indian Ocean, a remote UK colony officially known as the British Indian Ocean Territory.



    In the 1960s, at the height of the cold war, the Harold Wilson government wanted to do a deal with the US, which was looking for a military base in the Indian Ocean in order to monitor Soviet activity. Diego Garcia was perfect. In return for leasing it to them, the British government won a lot of good will from the US and a major financial contribution to its Polaris submarine programme. The displaced Chagossians, raised within a largely barter economy, got nothing. They have a Kreol word for how they feel: sagren – unbearable sadness.



    From the late 1960s onwards, those leaving the islands for shopping trips or emergency medical treatment often found their return barred. By 1973, all the inhabitants of Diego Garcia, the descendants of slaves brought there in the 18th century to work on coconut plantations, had been forcibly removed – dumped in Mauritius and the Seychelles, where they were left to fend for themselves.



    Four decades on, the Chagossians – who gained full British citizenship in 2002 and now have a 1,000-strong community in Sussex – are still struggling to return home. Their story is told in A Few Man Fridays, a play written and directed by Adrian Jackson, the artistic director of Cardboard Citizens, a company that makes theatre for, and with, the displaced and the homeless. Jackson’s previous work includes 2009’s hugely acclaimed Mincemeat, about a secret second world war operation in which the corpse of a homeless man was used to deceive the Nazis about an invasion of Sicily.



    “My interest has always been in marginalised people, the little people,” says Jackson. “So often, the homeless are seen as drug addicts or alcoholics. Their homelessness is perceived as the result of a flaw or a series of personal misfortunes and failures. We forget that homelessness often arises from geo-political shifts, and that’s the case here.”



    Successive British governments have avoided being shamed into action, but David Cameron and Nick Clegg both promised before the election that they would resolve this lengthy injustice. Nothing has been done. The law may yet force them to act, though. The Chagossians have taken their case to the European Court of Human Rights, where a judgment is imminent.



    But the “war against terror” has made the US more determined to hang on to its Indian Ocean base. In February 2008, then foreign secretary David Miliband finally admitted that Diego Garcia, which is British soil, had been used on at least two occasions for extraordinary rendition, despite previous denials by Tony Blair. What’s more, the entire archipelago, boasting some of the world’s richest coral reefs, was recently made a marine nature reserve. A 2009 WikiLeaks cable revealed that the British government supported this project as a way of ensuring that the Chagossians would never return.



    This pitting of the rights of the Chagossians against the protection of the environment is something Jackson vigorously questions in A Few Man Fridays. Who, it asks, should pay the price for saving the planet? “I love reefs. Of course, I want them to be there for my children. But I’m not sure the Chagossians’ return is incompatible with environmental concerns. Is the footprint of the Chagossians greater than that of the US military base and the yachters who visit the area?”



    With shades of The Tempest in its storm-tossed opening and a central character called Prosper (a homeless man in search of himself and his lost history), A Few Man Fridays is a fiction – but one that’s very much based on documentary evidence and interviews, as it reveals a grubby story of secrecy, deceit, colonial attitudes and collusion. Britain even had to be evasive with the UN, creating the illusion that Diego Garcia had no permanent residents. The play takes its name from a 1966 memo sent by civil servant Sir Paul Gore-Booth that declared: “The object of the exercise is to get some rocks which will remain ours […] there will be no indigenous population except seagulls.” To which a diplomat, Dennis Greenhill, replied: “Unfortunately, along with the birds go some few Tarzans and Man Fridays whose origins are obscure and who are hopefully being wished on to Mauritius.”



    Ironically, the US base on Diego Garcia is called Camp Justice. But then the function of stories and the shifting nature of truth are very much at the heart of A Few Man Fridays. “Chagos has become a paradise,” says Jackson. “Every time the story is told, the ocean is bluer and the sands whiter. The reality is that it was a colonial outpost. The Chagossians were wage slaves. But it was better than many places. It was their place – and the longing they feel for it is very real.”

  13. Steinreignedsupreme on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC 12:10 on 18 February, 2014



    It would have been a full house as well. Murrayfield could be problematic as it is a rugger pitch.

  14. lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar on




    It was ever thus, and its the powerful who write the history!




  15. Steinreignedsupreme on

    LiviBhoy – God bless wee Oscar 12:17 on 18 February, 2014



    “The pitch is too small.”



    It is tight right enough.



    We have a brilliant record there over the last few decades though.

  16. eddieinkirkmichael on

    Some cracking posts on here this morning, I was astonished to read the one from Kitbala, on Irish slavery. I have to admit to never knowing about the extent of this and it’s something I shall follow up and find more out about it.

  17. Steinreignedsupreme-posted similar last week,if we draw Elfsborg for example,how many would go to Murrayfield? No offence to East Coast Bhoys who replied last week :}

  18. Bed






    The Secret History of the US Military Base on Diego Garcia by David Vine

  19. Big Nan, Kitalba and others



    The British establishment needs no lessons in the use of “divide and rule” strategies to maintain its power and control over subjected nations. If brutality is required, in their view, then it will be used without the blink of an eye.


    The atrocities committed by Britain are as bad, if not worse, as ANYTHING done by any other powerful state. This inglorious history stretches back to the 17th century and was still going on in Ireland in the early 2000’s.


    Britain’s influence on the world stage has, nevertheless, declined. The truth of British atrocities around the world is becoming more widely known and apologists for their position are fighting a rearguard action and are increasingly the object of ridicule.


    Freemasonry has more influence in Scotland than anywhere in the world but, again, its gradually becoming weaker. No employer or business can afford to award jobs or contracts on the basis of masonic membership if it wishes to be competitive in the modern world. Scottish companies cannot afford to deny themselves access to 20% of the available talent in the market place. Jock Stein used RFC 1872’s sectarian policy against them to great effect by signing Protestants in the full knowledge that they couldn’t sign Catholics. Thus many Catholic players went south and were the backbone of top English sides. eg Leeds.


    I am, therefore, cautiously optimistic that these malignant influences will eventually wither away. But those in power will find some other way to fight to maintain their control.


    Who was it who said that the price of freedom is eternal vigilance?

  20. The book also busts the myth that the US, unlike the imperialists of yore, does not use brute force for conquest of land or to dispossess people. Here’s one small incident from the occupation of Diego Garcia. “Just before the last deportations, British Agents and US troops on Diego Garcia herded the Chagossians’ pet dogs into sealed sheds and gassed and burned them in front of their traumatised owners…”

  21. Kitalba, Thanks for the book recommendations. My period of anti-Britishness finished some years ago but your books sound still interesting. I would again say though that big countries do bad things to little countries. Had Ireland been a big country, its rulers may well have treated Britain in a similar manner. As ever with such issues, there are two or more angles to them. It is up to you if you only wish to view one perspective. Your inability to argue without personal insults ensures that we won’t debate these issues on CQN Kitalba.



    South of Tunis made some good recommendations also.


    South of Tunis,


    there is a terrific Czech movie called ‘The Cremator’. It is a very dark type of comedy. You may like it if you have not already seen it.

  22. I’m glad you caught me just before I left



    Your last post is pure hypothesis and your running away won me a bet.

  23. NegAnon2



    Got your reply the other night re what you would do if appointed Chief Executive – very interesting it was too. I didn’t read until the next morning though.



    Re CQTEN there are some tickets available – if you email me I can sort for you – david@CQNMagazine.com



    Anyone else looking for a ticket can do likewise. We have had a few withdrawals – think it is a Catholic thing!



    Very few tickets left though.

  24. Britain’s Empire by Richard Gott.



    Was sitting at home over Christmas and caught a snippet of Guns of Navarone. Light bulb moment of historical perspective. Of course The Huns were evil as they sought to blockade the med and stop the ‘glorious’ allied navies reaching India.



    No disrespect to brave fighting Jen who did save us from evils of fascism but what would a Martian gave made of Britain’s asian empire.



    Sought out this book. Excellent sweep of global imperialism both in terms of geography and time. Def recommend it. Cost me a quid off amazon. Bargain.



    Think we need a book/article section on CQN as last 24 hours chat has demonstrated.



    HH truth will out. And the good may prevail.




  25. Steinreignedsupreme


    12:22 on


    18 February, 2014



    No the pitch is actually too small at Tynecastle for Euro games to be played there. It’s one of the reasons Hearts used Murrayfield for for the Euro games a few seasons ago.

  26. glendalystonsils on

    Murrayfield is getting a new surface, some kind of synthetic and grass mix which I think will be an ok surface. The atmosphere in the big barn of a stadium would be more of a concern for me.

  27. Jamesgang, try this one also:



    To Kill a Priest: The Murder of Father Popieluszko and the Fall of Communism.

  28. Steinreignedsupreme on

    !!Bada Bing!! 12:24 on 18 February, 2014



    “Steinreignedsupreme-posted similar last week,if we draw Elfsborg for example,how many would go to Murrayfield? No offence to East Coast Bhoys who replied last week :}”



    A full house at Swinecastle would have been rocking. But there could be any number of reasons why Celtic chose Murrayfield.



    Like you, I don’t envisage a sell out, and I hope the atmosphere is better than Hampden.



    I’ve never been to Murrayfield though, so I’ll probably go for the novelty value.

  29. Kitalba, I am not sure if something is wrong with you but if there is then I wish you well. Best if we don’t interact on CQN.