We will be 6 points behind with a game in Hand after the Livi game
It is not a league losing position but it is the position we deserve and have earned.
We need to become a harder to beat team and then the league race will resume
ernie lynch on
Whilst that performance was no where good enough it does represent an improvement on both the huns game and the Milan game.
Sidelining Duffy might be the best short term option at the moment. It might almost be like a new signing.
mncelt on
It was a better performance from the team today. It was a tough game with Aberdeen up for it and the wind blowing like crazy. The scoreline really flatters Aberdeen, we should not have dropped points. We’re still only playing at about 60% of potential so there’s plenty of room for improvement, and it will get better.
Our defense is obviously bad but not sure what Neil can do about it. Duffy is a liability. Maybe Bitton will be fit again for midweek and if he is, let’s play him with Ajer. I don’t like where we are playing Frimpong. He seems to prefer coming forward from the right back slot, not starting at half way. Maybe he’ll get better as he learns the new role, but this season there’s not much time available. Thought everyone worked really hard today especially Moi and Ntcham. They both get criticized on here a lot but you can’t fault their effort. Good to see Griff making an impact off the bench. That was a great finish.
Reading back the comments here, it seems the respect once shown for the blog owner and our younger reading community has gone. The language is shocking. If it was my blog I would ban the culprits.
67 European Cup Winners on
My view on Friday night – after today it has only strengthened
There are a few on here asking “How did we let them get past us” ?? “How did it come to this” ?? “What happened to us on saturday”??
I’ve got half an hour, I’ve just opened a bottle of Rioja so happy to give my opinion
My view and it is only my view
I accept that Paul67 can from time to time voice a message from PL
I accept it because I think Paul67 will get info in return
CQN is by a million miles the best Celtic blog in town
And Paul67 is a credit to us all
But that does not mean he is always right
For years Paul67 has been telling us we will dominate for another 10 years
They will be lucky to survive and a lot more messages basically suggesting we are a long term dominant force
Enjoy these years and a lot more came the message
IMHO I believe this opinion was sold to Paul67 by PL
PL believed (and probably still believes) the greater the Balance sheet the better the team
In theory he is right assuming the rich team have the better players and coaches
I believe that PL has grossly undervalued the Hun resurgence (OK perhaps too big an adjective but you get my point)
I also believe if we do not win the league this year PL will sit at the same table as the CEO of Nokia (we did nothing wrong) Google it – it’s a shocking story of how Nokia ignored and underestimated Apple
PL did not feel the need to ask for applications for the Celtic managers job
He popped into the showers and gave it to the easiest option
PL made little effort to work with B Rogers because BR had ambition beyond PL’s imagination
PL did not think £2.5 million was good value for J McGinn
AND Paul67 upheld PL’s actions by backing up all those situations on here
PL has got us into a pickle (I’m not anti PL, he has us in a great place if you are our Bank) we are cash rich due to PL But his ability to manage people, risk and change have restricted Celtic
Yes we are rich but what use money if you do not know how to invest it
An inferior team have risen to hit us really hard and we need to recover quickly
Today before we go to Aberdeen on Sunday we are 4 points behind with a game in hand
We still have to play them 3 times
So our predicament is not catastrophic and we have the players and the money to fix the problem
Don’t panic all will be OK – say a few on here
But this future assumption does not feel achievable based on our season so far – well not to me
So I am of the opinion something needs to change
If Eddie Howe wanted to and could start on Monday I would make the change – but reality is not that simple
Chris Houghton same theory even Steve Clarke and there are probably a few more that you could think of
Assuming time and availability is against us I would promote Scott Brown to Assistant Player/Manager working under NL
If only to stir the pot do something to spark us into a fight that if we are to win we need to get into it right now – not when we are 4 points 6 points 9 points behind
I do not have a crystal ball nor am I a football coach so if you are reading this you are more than entitled to claim I’m talking rubbish and continue to tell yourself all will be OK
Winning the league every year is no one’s God given right
And sport is not sport without competition
But not winning the league this year to create a real bit of history with Ten in a Row would be a travesty
What is done is done – The Hun is galvanised and we know we are in a dog fight
But does PL ??
Since we got beat by them on Saturday, Paul67 has has raised a few topics but none of them have questioned our current predicament or considered that we are in a bit of bother – don’t write off our manager was the most passionate Keep calm and carry on indeed All will be OK I assume this is the PL message
But is it the opinion of Paul67 ??, our players, our supporters ?? Its not my view
Thumping Aberdeen on Sunday with a resurgent performance will render my post obsolete
But for how long ?
Alternatively anything else other than 3 points on Sunday will set CQN alight
Come May I am hopeful my concern about the 10 has gone – much like the bottle of Rioja – and we become the first team in Scotland to not only win 9 in a Row but also 10 in a Row
Fingers crossed or should we do something !!!!
Hail Hail to one and all
67ECW
markiebhoy on
Bada –
Agreed, someone made the point earlier – what is he?
Well in defence of Neil Lennon we all shouted out for him to change the system to which he did ,but a couple off players let us down none other than Duffy,Lennon should just cut his losses and send him back to Brighton,I’ve mentioned a few times why did Celtic let Big Jozo go for all his faults he is a million times better than Duffy ,also if Neil Lennon is still with us he needs to give players like Turnbull and Soro a start here is a question if Lennon gets the bullet or he resigns,who does Celtic Bring in,Look at the way the Leeds manager has them set up,that’s the type of coaches we are badly needing.
onenightinlisbon on
TURKEYBHOY on 25TH OCTOBER 2020 2:16 PM
No problems pal. We all feel the same!
Philbhoy on
SFTB
To win this league we may have to beat the huns three times.
Can we?
bluegrass celt on
It sickens me to watch my team regress like this. Lenny should walk, but unfortunately Big Pedro’s plan B at this moment in time will be JK and Broony till the end of the season if he does. So it looks like we are stuck with Lenny
Uncle Jimmy on
Better performance.
Its an indication of how our expectations have reduced, that we may feel oddly positive after that.
We are taking very good players and making them mediocre.
Our management team continues to appear fragmented and disjointed.
If we have a defensive coach, he needs to be shown the door today.
I cannot see ‘do nothing and hope for the best’ as being good enough to win the league this season.
We have a lot to consider
RC on
Frimpong is not and never will be a right back – he is a wingback
of course he isn’t, and add laxalt as he is not a left back but a wingback , so defensively we are a shambles, would have been better with ether welsh or ralston at right back.
notthebus on
If we had have seen the game out, there would be legitimate claims of a gutsy performance, turning things around when the chips were down
A game of very thin margins,…….. such is life.
Also.. i onder how our Greek goalie would have been targeted if he did the same as Baon at second dons goal
GerryBhoy on
67ECW
Spot on – your last 2 posts. Sadly.
Through the rain on
Oh and another thing…
Forrest, Julie, Edourd and Johnston all out
El Hammed, Bitton and Christie covid absentees
Griffiths, Ajeti getting up to speed
Duffy, Laxalt, only in the door 5mins and really short of game time.
HH
RC on
and play Taylor at left back with laxalt ahead of him.
ernie lynch on
In the unlikely event that the huns drop points today, and in the even more unlikely event that they start having to self isolate players, then today’s result might not appear to be as catastrophic as it does at the moment.
Dum spiro spero.
Jimmynotpaul on
CADDINGTONCOMMON on 25TH OCTOBER 2020 2:14 PM
I’m not a Lennon out, guy, yet but you can’t say leave the manager out of it. That doesn’t make sense, to me.
It’s his team, his formation, his instructions or lack of them, how to play out the remaining minutes.
We win, draw and lose as a team, the manager is as responsible as anyone else, when we win and when we don’t.
RC on
our greek goalie must got his sick line from julien’s doctor a sore back , that old chestnut.
bankiebhoy1 on
The obvious, sleekit huns will doubtless recede a tad once thur “game” kicks oaf…………..
I think we can but I don’t think it is necessary to beat them 3 times
They WILL drop points elsewhere
dessybhoy on
We cannot keep doing what we are doing, if nothing changes the league is gone, a once in 60 years oportunity to do 10 wasted, another thing that seriously worries me is that standards have dropped that we are now on a level with also rans and been passed by a new club, how did this happen, and how is this rectified, it cannot continue as it is at present. Complete honesty from all concerned is required and if you are the problem you cannot be the solution.
Willie Collum being made the scapegoat on here ,up to our equaliser Big Duffy blatantly fouled the Aberdeen player,with Collum looking right at it ,my concern about Collum he is to whistle happy.
Hot Smoked on
Didn`t see the game so I don`t know what the performance was like. I do know, though, that the `performance` on some on here has been very poor.
I have always assumed that the CQN demographic was largely made up of mature posters.Unfortunately, many posts today are more reflective of a spoiled, juvenile clientelle.
Like everyone else, I am desperately disappointed not to have won but it is a bit early to be throwing in the towel.
Can Livi get a point today? Who knows.
Cheerio for now.
markiebhoy on
Look at their 3rd goal, their guy goes past 6 players
Neil Lennon: “I’m disappointed we haven’t won it. We showed the character to come back twice and we then lose that late goal. Defensively, we were poor but attacking it was good, particularly in the second half. It’s too sloppy defensively though.”
On referee Willie Collum…
“I thought the referee had a very poor game today, decision making, being influenced by his assistants and some of his decisions were baffling.”
“There’s a little bit of fragility there at the minute and when you score three goals away from home you should win the game. It will be something that will come with time, we’ve still got a number of players to come back and they will make us a lot stronger as a squad.”
Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on
Crumbs of comfort?
From a truly awful performance last week to a slightly better one midweek and further improvement (less worse) today.
But still well short.
And the rate of improvement is too slow (bearing in mind the quality of team we’ll play over the next 1½ months).
Celtic simply cannot defend.
Defending is not easy but it is simple.
A rectangle of 192 square feet in the entire planet that the ball cannot be permitted to cross.
Eight goals conceded in three games and all genuinely preventable.
Not one of them a thing beauty in the “no team would have kept that out” category.
It’s not just the goals or JUST the personnel.
There is blind panic and poor situation awareness every time the ball comes in to our box.
It afflicts everyone including Calum McGregor.
That is symptomatic of a lack of structure and a lack of coaching.
Shane Duffy?
Rapidly becoming our Jonas Thern …. a decent pro pitching up for a 10IAR party that he believed was already in the bag.
At least Jonas had the good taste to make a negligible contribution – mostly sitting around injured while picking his gargantuan earnings.
SD, on the other hand, is helping the opposition.
Neil – Bin training Monday and Tuesday.
Unless there is something new to train.
Clear the air fully. Then go again from scratch.
Hail hail
Keep The Faith
Through the rain on
No Bobby….
They weren’t celebrating because they were racing back to the centre to try and win the game.
HH
RC on
They WILL drop points elsewhere
dearie dearie , they probably will but we will drop more if we don’t get rid of DUFF y .
!!Bada Bing!! on
Wright should have been taken out,30 yards from goal,shocking game management from 3-2,they put 2 forwards on,everything down Frimpong’s side,put Welsh on at RB,or move Ajer out,and retreat 10 yards,keep the game in front of you,nothing in behind….amateur stuff again.
The hand of God on
Watching Celtic this season has been difficult to say the least.Yes we have been spoiled in recent times 11 trophies on the trot is incredible but in the last week our deficiencies have come home to roost.I watched the last 5 minutes from behind the sofa you just knew what was coming but when it did arrive it was a hammer blow.We are missing a lot of players at the moment but that’s why we have a big squad the players that are missing haven’t reached anywhere near their usual levels this season.We have no system no way of playing we seem to make it up as we go along.By the end of the afternoon we will be 6 points behind with a game in hand…its not over yet but unless something drastically changes it looks like we can kiss goodbye to the 10.Something has to change…quickly.
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The lack of formation and tactics makes it look like the
players aren’t trying. It’s no coincidece that the new players
are struggling, they don’t know what they are supposed
to be doing.
QF- I would have hooked Elyounoussi at half time.
ONENIGHT INLISBON,
Sorry mate,emotions running high.
We will be 6 points behind with a game in Hand after the Livi game
It is not a league losing position but it is the position we deserve and have earned.
We need to become a harder to beat team and then the league race will resume
Whilst that performance was no where good enough it does represent an improvement on both the huns game and the Milan game.
Sidelining Duffy might be the best short term option at the moment. It might almost be like a new signing.
It was a better performance from the team today. It was a tough game with Aberdeen up for it and the wind blowing like crazy. The scoreline really flatters Aberdeen, we should not have dropped points. We’re still only playing at about 60% of potential so there’s plenty of room for improvement, and it will get better.
Our defense is obviously bad but not sure what Neil can do about it. Duffy is a liability. Maybe Bitton will be fit again for midweek and if he is, let’s play him with Ajer. I don’t like where we are playing Frimpong. He seems to prefer coming forward from the right back slot, not starting at half way. Maybe he’ll get better as he learns the new role, but this season there’s not much time available. Thought everyone worked really hard today especially Moi and Ntcham. They both get criticized on here a lot but you can’t fault their effort. Good to see Griff making an impact off the bench. That was a great finish.
Reading back the comments here, it seems the respect once shown for the blog owner and our younger reading community has gone. The language is shocking. If it was my blog I would ban the culprits.
My view on Friday night – after today it has only strengthened
There are a few on here asking “How did we let them get past us” ?? “How did it come to this” ?? “What happened to us on saturday”??
I’ve got half an hour, I’ve just opened a bottle of Rioja so happy to give my opinion
My view and it is only my view
I accept that Paul67 can from time to time voice a message from PL
I accept it because I think Paul67 will get info in return
CQN is by a million miles the best Celtic blog in town
And Paul67 is a credit to us all
But that does not mean he is always right
For years Paul67 has been telling us we will dominate for another 10 years
They will be lucky to survive and a lot more messages basically suggesting we are a long term dominant force
Enjoy these years and a lot more came the message
IMHO I believe this opinion was sold to Paul67 by PL
PL believed (and probably still believes) the greater the Balance sheet the better the team
In theory he is right assuming the rich team have the better players and coaches
I believe that PL has grossly undervalued the Hun resurgence (OK perhaps too big an adjective but you get my point)
I also believe if we do not win the league this year PL will sit at the same table as the CEO of Nokia (we did nothing wrong) Google it – it’s a shocking story of how Nokia ignored and underestimated Apple
PL did not feel the need to ask for applications for the Celtic managers job
He popped into the showers and gave it to the easiest option
PL made little effort to work with B Rogers because BR had ambition beyond PL’s imagination
PL did not think £2.5 million was good value for J McGinn
AND Paul67 upheld PL’s actions by backing up all those situations on here
PL has got us into a pickle (I’m not anti PL, he has us in a great place if you are our Bank) we are cash rich due to PL But his ability to manage people, risk and change have restricted Celtic
Yes we are rich but what use money if you do not know how to invest it
An inferior team have risen to hit us really hard and we need to recover quickly
Today before we go to Aberdeen on Sunday we are 4 points behind with a game in hand
We still have to play them 3 times
So our predicament is not catastrophic and we have the players and the money to fix the problem
Don’t panic all will be OK – say a few on here
But this future assumption does not feel achievable based on our season so far – well not to me
So I am of the opinion something needs to change
If Eddie Howe wanted to and could start on Monday I would make the change – but reality is not that simple
Chris Houghton same theory even Steve Clarke and there are probably a few more that you could think of
Assuming time and availability is against us I would promote Scott Brown to Assistant Player/Manager working under NL
If only to stir the pot do something to spark us into a fight that if we are to win we need to get into it right now – not when we are 4 points 6 points 9 points behind
I do not have a crystal ball nor am I a football coach so if you are reading this you are more than entitled to claim I’m talking rubbish and continue to tell yourself all will be OK
Winning the league every year is no one’s God given right
And sport is not sport without competition
But not winning the league this year to create a real bit of history with Ten in a Row would be a travesty
What is done is done – The Hun is galvanised and we know we are in a dog fight
But does PL ??
Since we got beat by them on Saturday, Paul67 has has raised a few topics but none of them have questioned our current predicament or considered that we are in a bit of bother – don’t write off our manager was the most passionate Keep calm and carry on indeed All will be OK I assume this is the PL message
But is it the opinion of Paul67 ??, our players, our supporters ?? Its not my view
Thumping Aberdeen on Sunday with a resurgent performance will render my post obsolete
But for how long ?
Alternatively anything else other than 3 points on Sunday will set CQN alight
Come May I am hopeful my concern about the 10 has gone – much like the bottle of Rioja – and we become the first team in Scotland to not only win 9 in a Row but also 10 in a Row
Fingers crossed or should we do something !!!!
Hail Hail to one and all
67ECW
Bada –
Agreed, someone made the point earlier – what is he?
Again he probably doesn’t know, another victim of
the chaos.
Well in defence of Neil Lennon we all shouted out for him to change the system to which he did ,but a couple off players let us down none other than Duffy,Lennon should just cut his losses and send him back to Brighton,I’ve mentioned a few times why did Celtic let Big Jozo go for all his faults he is a million times better than Duffy ,also if Neil Lennon is still with us he needs to give players like Turnbull and Soro a start here is a question if Lennon gets the bullet or he resigns,who does Celtic Bring in,Look at the way the Leeds manager has them set up,that’s the type of coaches we are badly needing.
TURKEYBHOY on 25TH OCTOBER 2020 2:16 PM
No problems pal. We all feel the same!
SFTB
To win this league we may have to beat the huns three times.
Can we?
It sickens me to watch my team regress like this. Lenny should walk, but unfortunately Big Pedro’s plan B at this moment in time will be JK and Broony till the end of the season if he does. So it looks like we are stuck with Lenny
Better performance.
Its an indication of how our expectations have reduced, that we may feel oddly positive after that.
We are taking very good players and making them mediocre.
Our management team continues to appear fragmented and disjointed.
If we have a defensive coach, he needs to be shown the door today.
I cannot see ‘do nothing and hope for the best’ as being good enough to win the league this season.
We have a lot to consider
Frimpong is not and never will be a right back – he is a wingback
of course he isn’t, and add laxalt as he is not a left back but a wingback , so defensively we are a shambles, would have been better with ether welsh or ralston at right back.
If we had have seen the game out, there would be legitimate claims of a gutsy performance, turning things around when the chips were down
A game of very thin margins,…….. such is life.
Also.. i onder how our Greek goalie would have been targeted if he did the same as Baon at second dons goal
67ECW
Spot on – your last 2 posts. Sadly.
Oh and another thing…
Forrest, Julie, Edourd and Johnston all out
El Hammed, Bitton and Christie covid absentees
Griffiths, Ajeti getting up to speed
Duffy, Laxalt, only in the door 5mins and really short of game time.
HH
and play Taylor at left back with laxalt ahead of him.
In the unlikely event that the huns drop points today, and in the even more unlikely event that they start having to self isolate players, then today’s result might not appear to be as catastrophic as it does at the moment.
Dum spiro spero.
CADDINGTONCOMMON on 25TH OCTOBER 2020 2:14 PM
I’m not a Lennon out, guy, yet but you can’t say leave the manager out of it. That doesn’t make sense, to me.
It’s his team, his formation, his instructions or lack of them, how to play out the remaining minutes.
We win, draw and lose as a team, the manager is as responsible as anyone else, when we win and when we don’t.
our greek goalie must got his sick line from julien’s doctor a sore back , that old chestnut.
The obvious, sleekit huns will doubtless recede a tad once thur “game” kicks oaf…………..
Philbhoy
I think we can but I don’t think it is necessary to beat them 3 times
They WILL drop points elsewhere
We cannot keep doing what we are doing, if nothing changes the league is gone, a once in 60 years oportunity to do 10 wasted, another thing that seriously worries me is that standards have dropped that we are now on a level with also rans and been passed by a new club, how did this happen, and how is this rectified, it cannot continue as it is at present. Complete honesty from all concerned is required and if you are the problem you cannot be the solution.
Willie Collum being made the scapegoat on here ,up to our equaliser Big Duffy blatantly fouled the Aberdeen player,with Collum looking right at it ,my concern about Collum he is to whistle happy.
Didn`t see the game so I don`t know what the performance was like. I do know, though, that the `performance` on some on here has been very poor.
I have always assumed that the CQN demographic was largely made up of mature posters.Unfortunately, many posts today are more reflective of a spoiled, juvenile clientelle.
Like everyone else, I am desperately disappointed not to have won but it is a bit early to be throwing in the towel.
Can Livi get a point today? Who knows.
Cheerio for now.
Look at their 3rd goal, their guy goes past 6 players
without being challenged.
And yet another thing…
Bonuses…
Tom Rogic, Christie, Griff!
And solid Laxalt has talent
HH
As things continue to go wrong, we’re showing a marked tendency towards self-harm that we need to snap out of fast.
Frustrating beyond belief today.
https://thecelticblog.com/2020/10/blogs/a-defensive-shambles-robs-us-of-points-as-celtic-slams-the-self-destruct-button-hard/
Carried a few empty jerseys today.
Duffy signing proving to be disastrous.
Worrying lack of team spirit, evinced again in players not celebrating goals.
Actually feel sorry for NFL. A few imposters in that team.
BANKIEBHOY1 on 25TH OCTOBER 2020 2:24 PM
Tell us pal, who are they?
Neil Lennon: “I’m disappointed we haven’t won it. We showed the character to come back twice and we then lose that late goal. Defensively, we were poor but attacking it was good, particularly in the second half. It’s too sloppy defensively though.”
On referee Willie Collum…
“I thought the referee had a very poor game today, decision making, being influenced by his assistants and some of his decisions were baffling.”
“There’s a little bit of fragility there at the minute and when you score three goals away from home you should win the game. It will be something that will come with time, we’ve still got a number of players to come back and they will make us a lot stronger as a squad.”
Crumbs of comfort?
From a truly awful performance last week to a slightly better one midweek and further improvement (less worse) today.
But still well short.
And the rate of improvement is too slow (bearing in mind the quality of team we’ll play over the next 1½ months).
Celtic simply cannot defend.
Defending is not easy but it is simple.
A rectangle of 192 square feet in the entire planet that the ball cannot be permitted to cross.
Eight goals conceded in three games and all genuinely preventable.
Not one of them a thing beauty in the “no team would have kept that out” category.
It’s not just the goals or JUST the personnel.
There is blind panic and poor situation awareness every time the ball comes in to our box.
It afflicts everyone including Calum McGregor.
That is symptomatic of a lack of structure and a lack of coaching.
Shane Duffy?
Rapidly becoming our Jonas Thern …. a decent pro pitching up for a 10IAR party that he believed was already in the bag.
At least Jonas had the good taste to make a negligible contribution – mostly sitting around injured while picking his gargantuan earnings.
SD, on the other hand, is helping the opposition.
Neil – Bin training Monday and Tuesday.
Unless there is something new to train.
Clear the air fully. Then go again from scratch.
Hail hail
Keep The Faith
No Bobby….
They weren’t celebrating because they were racing back to the centre to try and win the game.
HH
They WILL drop points elsewhere
dearie dearie , they probably will but we will drop more if we don’t get rid of DUFF y .
Wright should have been taken out,30 yards from goal,shocking game management from 3-2,they put 2 forwards on,everything down Frimpong’s side,put Welsh on at RB,or move Ajer out,and retreat 10 yards,keep the game in front of you,nothing in behind….amateur stuff again.
Watching Celtic this season has been difficult to say the least.Yes we have been spoiled in recent times 11 trophies on the trot is incredible but in the last week our deficiencies have come home to roost.I watched the last 5 minutes from behind the sofa you just knew what was coming but when it did arrive it was a hammer blow.We are missing a lot of players at the moment but that’s why we have a big squad the players that are missing haven’t reached anywhere near their usual levels this season.We have no system no way of playing we seem to make it up as we go along.By the end of the afternoon we will be 6 points behind with a game in hand…its not over yet but unless something drastically changes it looks like we can kiss goodbye to the 10.Something has to change…quickly.
67 EUROPEAN CUP WINNERS on 25TH OCTOBER 2020 2:17 PM
Very good comment. Enjoy your Rioja.