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After they hatched their plan to blackmail Scottish Football League clubs into voting Newco into the First Division, Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster and David Longmuir might have paused to wonder what reaction they would receive.

You better believe they didn’t anticipate the reaction today from Clyde and Raith Rovers.  Rovers chairman, Turnbull Hutton, told BBC Scotland’s Jim Spence, “If we are at the stage of bending rules and accommodating, threatening and blackmailing, we want to give it up.”

“Bending rules… threatening… blackmailing…we want to give it up”.

Hutton went on to suggest heads should roll at the SFL, SFA and SPL.  He’s the first from within the football establishment to call for sackings but he’ll not be the last.

An extensive statement by Clyde FC concluded, “The papers include a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the 1st Division. This is contrary to the rules of the SFL and nothing within the papers justifies this proposal.”

Regan, Doncaster and Longmuir will now be contemplating that their bully-boy tactics will fail. SLF clubs will vote against their recommendations and SPL clubs will not stop promotion from the lower leagues based on merit.  It looks like abject failure of leadership.

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  1. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

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    I haven’t read the skirmish between Canalamar and Bjmac. Both of whom I had run ins with but love them both.

     

     

    I only highlighted what Canamalar brought up not because I think you got it wrong but it happened with me very recently.

     

     

    I also did not know of bjmacs battle and if he is reading. Any help I could give him I would. I suggest bagpipe music.

     

     

    You are THEE leading light of CQN. One of the main reasons I am here regularly. I consider you not just a friend but a good one and a CQN legend.

     

     

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  2. Have been pleasantly surprised by the

     

    reaction of the supporters of all the other clubs,

     

    with a very few exceptions.

     

    Hopefully a new begining in Scottish football awaits

     

    if can rid ourselves of a few self serving individuals.

  3. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 30 June, 2012 at 19:15 said:

     

     

    You blootered?? :-))))

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    Will the hatred currently being displayed in Scotland lead to violence at future fixtures, I hope it doesn’t because I think we’d be blamed and further demonised bUt I’ve never witnessed anything like recent the attacks on our Club

     

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    I think it is an absoloute certainty that there is going to be trouble.

     

     

     

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    I think it is an absoloute certainty that there is going to be trouble.

     

     

    I Think your right but it could damage us further, by the time the media spin it

     

     

     

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    I think there will almost certainly be trouble. The incitement will be too much.

     

     

     

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    especially if we were to draw an SPL team in the cup next season while feelings are still strong

     

     

     

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    If the feeings remain high there will be few away fans.

     

     

     

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    If we boycott all the sources of hatred being aimed at us – & vice versa – if all those threats of boycotts against us are carried out –

     

    I can’t see where trouble could actually take place –

     

     

     

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    We could always go to the next Dhimmy v Sheep match and cause a wee bit of bother – we’d be in the clear then.

     

     

     

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    Think if our paths cross bearing in mind these arseholes are willing to boycott their own teams to get at us I think most bears are thinking enoughs enough there will be Defo confrontation ahead .

     

     

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    I would move the away section at Ibrox no matter what happens. Three options:

     

     

    1. Last few rows of the Club Deck.

     

    2. Corner of the West Enclosure.

     

    3. Broomloan Rear, in the middle with Bears all round.

     

     

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    Its a certainty. And its also a certainty that our fans will get the blame. And just for good measure its also an absolute certainty that our PR team will say nothing in our defence.

     

     

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    especially if we were to draw an SPL team in the cup next season while feelings are still strong if it was an away tie there would be no fans at it

     

     

     

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    especially if we were to draw an SPL team in the cup next season while feelings are still strong

     

     

    I thought we were boycotting the cup, if we mean it how can there be trouble?

     

     

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    The old hatreds and violence of the 70’s may well resurface across the country…whenever we cross paths with SPL fans whilst we are on our SFL travels. There will be much baiting and reaction across the land and that will continue I think for upwards of a generation. A big nasty genie has been let out the bottle.

     

     

    Just when it had all but disapeared as well.

     

     

    If there was an award for gross stupidity, it must go to our very own SFA.

     

     

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    The old hatreds and violence of the 70’s may well resurface across the country…whenever we cross paths with SPL fans whilst we are on our SFL travels. There will be much baiting and reaction across the land and that will continue I think for upwards of a generation. A big nasty genie has been let out the bottle.

     

     

    Just when it had all but disapeared as well.

     

     

    If there was an award for gross stupidity, it must go to our very own SFA.

     

     

    Congratulations !

     

     

    I never experienced anything like the vitriol aimed at us at the moment

     

     

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    I would say there definitely will be trouble. The other fans seem to think the Rangers supporters are in some way responsible. I’ve never saw such obsessive hatred aimed towards a club and it’s supporters before.

     

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    We need to be careful the media have contributed to the situation as it is and will gleefully put an anti RANGERS spin if there is the slightest chance total f,n scum

     

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    We need to be careful the media have contributed to the situation as it is and will gleefully put an anti RANGERS spin if there is the slightest chance total f,n scum

     

    Any problems would see a clamour for us to be banned

     

     

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    Just a thought, it’s going to cost some amount of money to police the train stations if we go div3 . It’s a certainty we’ll meet some of these feckers that hate us every week while travelling.

     

     

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    Glasgow city centre will be fun on a Saturday aftermatch if the Tims are at home and we are playing Partick Thistle at Firhill.

     

     

     

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    I would move the away section at Ibrox no matter what happens. Three options:

     

     

    1. Last few rows of the Club Deck.

     

    2. Corner of the West Enclosure.

     

    3. Broomloan Rear, in the middle with Bears all round.

     

     

     

    We have to change the way we do things and the way we treat other teams and fans, we must remember how they,ve had a great summer at our expense, freely puting the boot into a severely lame and wounded animal

     

    Puting the away fans taigs included, in a new section of Ibrox is a must, treat them like the sh!£e they are.

  5. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    ht,

     

    dont you listen to the decree’s from the top, its armagedon they’re telling us, innit

     

    So its ok for them to exagerate

  6. The scottish football authorities have now been shown up for what they are, hun loving, corrupt, inept, riddled with freemasonry and self interest.

     

     

    This latest despicable proclamation shows the whole world what we in timdom have known for years.

     

     

    Surely, these people have an obligation to protect the game as a whole and not just the interest of a corrupt decaesed ex member.

     

     

    Uefa and FIFA cannot stand back and do nothing!!!!!!!!

     

     

    We must get rid of theses leeches and save our game.

     

     

    If the newco hun are parachuted into division 1 we are doomed.

     

     

    We must get out for our own sanity!!!!

  7. Anyone pick up on the Thu, Jun 28, 2012, statement by MALCOLM MURRAY, Chairman of “The Newco” on their website.

     

     

    Still two centuries behind in their thought process.

     

     

    “All the assets commonly associated with the football club – Ibrox, Murray Park, the Albion car park, staff, players etc – are the property of The Rangers Football Club, which at present is registered as Sevco Scotland Ltd until a name change is given formal approval.

     

     

    “…staff, players etc – are the property of The Rangers”

     

    People as Property = Slavery!

  8. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

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    No why ?

     

     

    Or is that an ironic smear ? ;-)

     

     

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  9. I’m impressed with the speedy and unambiguous response from the three SFL clubs. Apparently, it’s easier for the Clydes and Raith Rovers of this world to take a principled stand than it is for the St Mirrens and Kilmarnocks. Something to do with living within your means, I guess.

  10. The Battered Button? Don’t know where that came from, could be the Thetans trying to interrupt my thought process, who knows?

     

     

    The Battered Bunnett!

  11. Turnbull Hutton to replace Regan

     

     

    Rod Petrie to replace the corrupt Doncaster ; Murray and Whyte destroyed one club. He and Regan are determined to destroy Scottish football with their actions.

     

     

    These 2 sassenachs must be sacked now!

     

     

    Campbell Ogilvie can go to Sevco ; no need for a President , one blazer less.

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    Doh! Get it now.

     

     

    Awe Naw

     

     

    1) I’ve never seen you be so pleasant.

     

     

    2) You do realise it’s MWD you were referring to?? :-))))

  13. O.G.Rafferty on 30 June, 2012 at 18:55 said:

     

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    You read it right. It’s not often some at that level is so candid and you can rest assured he said much more than appeared in Alex Thomson’s article

     

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    thanks for reply OG.

     

     

    Phil Mac Giolla Bhain ran with this story tail end of last year and was poo poo’d by just about everyone.

     

     

    Even Celtic support normally sympathetic to Phil advised him to drop it. The media, Darryl King, Graham Spiers, were quick to pour scorn on any notion that Rangers should not have been participating due to financial criteria not being met.

     

     

    I’am as sure as I can be that King said on Clyde that he had been in contact with SFA and Rangers had met all financial criteria and Phil’s revelations were but a load of baloney.

     

     

    If Alex Thomson’s mole is now saying the SFA knew all along that Rangers didnt meet financial criteria but they were throwing them a life line by allowing them to participate then if that can be proved BINGO.

     

     

    SFA/SPL heads will have to roll.

     

     

    Celtic would surely sue?

     

     

    Might even go some way to explain the even stranger than usual refereeing decisions that season that handed der Hun the league? Petrie and co putting out a plea that the Huns were dying and all hands are required on deck to save them so to speak. You can just imagine the following scenario being played out at Hampden. Referee’s would have been briefed, “The game is on the verge of collapsing if Rangers go to the wall. They must win the league and get champs league money to have any chance of survival, or the game in Scotland is finished”.

     

     

    Fertile imagination? Perhaps. But I’m willing to bet that’s closer to the truth than we’ve been fed so far.

     

     

    Hope Phil Mac Giolla Bhain or others can take up on the Alex Thomson revelations and blow the SFA ship out of the water with this. If proved it would be a scandal and a half alright. Their rotten empire would come crashing down on top of the lot of them.

     

     

    Phil must have an insider on this story too. Maybe same as Thomson’s? Phil ran with this about 8 months ago if memory serves me correct.

     

     

    http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/people-hampden-long-predicted-rangers-meltdown/2113

  14. Their undignified and humiliating demise

     

    should be a lesson to all on how not

     

    to react to adversity.

  15. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

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    Your still a pup on here ;-) MWD and I go way back on CQN.

     

     

    I am the most pleasant guy on here. By a mile.

     

     

    Your just picking on me. You must be related to Miss Boylan. Used to belt me for singing out of tune. I hated those songs anyway.

     

     

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  16. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

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    watch yersel that could be taken as approval. you could end up on all sorts of lists :oD)))

  17. The Battered Bunnet on

    Thanks for the kind comments guys. Appreciated.

     

     

    MWD You’re quite right. The balance of probabilities suggests there will be no ‘Rangers’ team playing in Scottish football when the season kicks off on 28th July (Ramsdens Cup).

     

     

    The SPL will have a full complement of teams, and doubtless SFL will promote upwards to fill the gaps in D1 and D2, but they then have a quandary with what to do with D3.

     

     

    Let’s say Sevco can’t demonstrate that it is able to field a team and fulfil its fixtures. What do the SFL do about it?

     

     

    On the one hand, there is a queue at the door of ambitious clubs wanting acces to senior football via SFL3.

     

     

    On the other hand, if SFL accepts a new member this year to make up the numbers in D3, then this time next year there is no room at the inn for any reformed ‘Rangers’ club.

     

     

    I’m quite looking forward to seeing how it all plays out to be honest :¬)

  18. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    If they are sent to div 3 there will be clubs who cant afford the policing, will the sfl pay for it.

  19. there is no way that we will be invited into english football anytime soon so why can celtic and her supporters not focus on working with the other teams in scotland to make things better for everyone.

     

     

    we can make the league more challenging by making it larger, sharing t.v and other spl contacts etc… in a fairer manner. a hearts, hibs, aberdeen or dundee united team challenging every year for title/ cups will witness a spike in attendance from paying customers.

     

     

    for anyone who thinks not remind me how many fans were attending celtic park in the 90’s or ibrox in the 80’s. the main reason that fans have drifted from the games smaller teams is because the league has been dominated by rangers and celtic for about 30 years and thats not healthy for sport.

     

     

    we should always look to win that is the purpose of sport, but we should attempt to follow the lead of smaller clubs at this time. be prepared to make structural and financial changes for the good of the games, take a short-term hit on income to ensure that the long game i.e. a more attractive, better attended and more financially viable game is there for everyone.

     

     

    the more competitive the league, the more viewers the more companies are willing to pay for t.v/ advertising. my reading of the sitaution is servo will play in scotland, at the bottom of scottish football.

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    Anyone who sits or stands near me at the football will verify that I would have absolutely no right to pick on you your vocal talents!! :-))

  21. The Battered Bunnet on 30 June, 2012 at 17:34 said:

     

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    Outstanding post

     

     

    No to newclub playing anywhere

     

     

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    Here is oor Terry ONeil on Clyde talking to Dawwyl and Roger Hannah on the licence being granted to Rangers.

     

     

    Now King claims Regan sent out a letter on the Internet saying all criteria had been met to get a licence for Europe (although this appears to stretch to ALL football).

     

     

     

    http://youtu.be/tf4h54pYRNE

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    Have you ever had complaints like me at games. “Gonne gie it a rest mate as yer pittin me aff ma singing”. I’ve been on buses where fellow tims have openly and freely admitted “Im no singing if hes singing”

     

     

    And I forgive them ….what’s that you think about me ? ;-)

     

     

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    he isnae kidding, I’ve say his FB efforts….. o((

     

     

    out bhoys….later

  25. stephbhoy on 30 June, 2012 at 19:40 said:

     

    I agree, Celtic are by far the biggest club in Scotland now.

     

    We can use this power to get our own way or level the playing field

     

    I think the collective finances could be shared more equitably, tv money, joint sponsorship etc.

     

    We should retain our own finances however, gate money, merchandising etc.

     

     

    It will allow clubs to use their resources to develope their clubs.

     

    Scottish football needs to start to look to the long term and develope youth, rather than try to buy shorter success with imported players.

  26. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on 30 June, 2012 at 19:40 said:

     

     

    If they are sent to div 3 there will be clubs who cant afford the policing, will the sfl pay for it.

     

     

    my man, am kinda thinking thats the biggest load of bull the MSM have attempted to spin. every club in the 3rd division, the 2nd division and the 1st division would be able to accommodate a full house, what ever that might be. the club would allocate x amount of tickets, do a little bit of simple maths and bobs your uncle. we are only talking about 2 games

     

     

    how many clubs enter the scottish cup and say sorry we cant host our games with yous? the square root of zero. myth after myth, a newco in the lower divisions would be great for the lower leagues clubs.

  27. Awe Naw

     

     

    It’s worse, I need to teach it.

     

     

    I start singing and the weans look at one another as if to say…….is this clown for real!!? :-))

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    I wouldn’t worry about being on a list. We’re all on some sort of list. Who cares for disco flares.

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    stephbhoy on 30 June, 2012 at 19:52 said:

     

    a newco in the lower divisions would be great for the lower leagues clubs.

     

     

     

    Indeed. In fact I feel sorry for those Div3 clubs who won’t have had their home gate bonanza before NewCo goes bust. Again. Mwahahahaha…

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    hamiltontim on 30 June, 2012 at 19:53 said:

     

     

    Thats funny.

     

     

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    And as a follow on to that post fae Oor Terry there are some things which become interesting given what Alex Thomson has now tweeted.

     

     

    There are some potential repercussions from King’s revelations:

     

     

     

     

    1. IF Daryl King is correct and Mr Regan did send out a letter saying Rangers met all the criteria when in reality they did not that is rank and file corruption and Regan would have to go. He would undoubtedly have implicated himself by admitting the paperwork was in order and the licence should have been and in fact was granted.

     

     

    2. If this letter from Regan was sent out then that would beg the question did he rubber stamp the licence or was someone else involved in granting it and if so who? Surely not the best administrator in the game and acting president?

     

     

    3. If Regan sent no such letter and answered no questions to this effect could things could get more messy as UEFA then have something to look at.

     

     

    The other possibility is that Daryl King was mere;y doing his protect rangers at all costs routine and the letter is made up garbage. I cannot remember seeing such a letter nor do I remember any posters showing it around this time. We were more pre-occupied with Celtic as we had just beaten Motherwell to go second and our minds were very much on our own club rather than their finances.

     

     

    This could be dynamite in more ways than one.

     

     

    If Regan sent that letter and the information in it is tripe, he must go. He has no credibility.

     

     

    Whoever took the documentation and approved the licence (if indeed it was improperly approved) must also go.

     

     

    All clubs in the league last season are due an awful lot of compensation money as No rangers last season in the league would have meant their prize monies would possibly have improved and definitely in the case of Motherwell.

     

     

    We live in interesting times.

  32. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    stephbhoy,

     

    the msm have never broached that subject, but I’m sure of you’ve got any evidence you’ll offer it.

     

    The cup competitions are one off games and the hundead support might pay for themselves, but do you honestly expect me to believe they will take enough support to cover policing costs twice a season.

     

    The raised expectation of misconduct will ensure a police presence therefore raised costs.

  33. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Snake-well done for digging that out,some people take these “experts” opinions as the truth…..

  34. Doc is Neil Lennon on 30 June, 2012 at 19:51 said:

     

     

    it is highly unlikely that clubs such as hearts, hibs, aberdeen, dundee united etc would be happy to share their home game with team such as ICT, Ross County, and if the league was extended, falkirk, dumfermline etc… so i dont thing that would be an issue. would think the same applies with regards merchandising etc…

     

     

    when you have a look at the celtic first team its awful that we are/ were paying the wages of 35 first team players, there is simply no justification for having such as large squad, particularly when your spending 2 million a year on your youth system.

     

     

    think hearts have already stated that their squad will be mixed with youth and senior players next season and thereafter, which surely must be the aim of all clubs in Scottish football.

     

     

    needs to start to look to the long term and develope youth, rather than try to buy shorter success with imported players, possibly outwith celtic, but a max squad of 22 should beintroduced.

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