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I don’t know what was said to Neil Lennon after the victory over Dunfermline last week but if it caused him to react I can imagine the tone.  The few visits I made to the South Stand during Gordon Strachan’s tenure left an indelible image of life as a Celtic manager.

Whatever Kirk Broadfoot did or did not say to Rangers fans towards the end of their defeat at Kilmarnock yesterday, does anyone seriously think it contained more invective than has been hurled at the player for most of his career?

The self-righteous indignation some football fans exhibit when an employee earning [insert a completely irrelevant figure here]exhibits intolerance to what would get you barred for life from any other workplace in the country is the epitome of hypocrisy.

Garry Kenneth, who is likely to face Celtic at Tannadice on Sunday, today told the world he will not be renewing his contract when it expires at the end of the season, saying, “Dundee United are a feeder club, it has always been like that.” Ouch.  Whatever Kenneth thinks of United he should at least respect their fans emotional investment in the club to be a whole lot more careful with his words.  Should make for a tense afternoon in the United defence, especially if we can put the big guy under some pressure.

Big game on Wednesday.  A win would fire enormous impetus into our season.  Whatever the outcome, the game will provide Neil Lennon with a guide on how to play in the hugely important month ahead.

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  1. Sandman Is Neil Lennon on

    Meanwhile, Killie hero Pascali revealed how he assumed his header would be ruled offside until he spotted that Aluko had actually played him onside.

     

     

    He said: “I thought I would score just for fun and to have a laugh.

     

     

    “I thought I was 12 metres offside but then I saw Aluko was running and pointing at me. They signed him so he was there just for me!

     

     

    “I don’t want to be too romantic but when you’re a kid you dream about beating Rangers. I’m a really happy man.”

     

     

     

     

    lulz.

  2. row z \o/ (O) Mississippi Burnin Nearer Home –

     

     

    – “William, It Was Really Nothing” – The Smiths

     

     

    – “I Started Something I Couldn’t Finish” – The Smiths

     

     

    – “Slip Slidin’ Away” – Simon & Garfunkel

     

     

    And have you noticed this one on the radio recently…

     

     

    – “Our Day Will Come” – Amy Winehouse

     

     

    :)

     

     

    (thumbsup)

  3. Auld Neil Lennon heid says:

     

     

    28 November, 2011 at 12:14

     

     

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:

     

     

    28 November, 2011 at 11:21

     

     

    I am not sure how far back non payment goes, so it might not be until May, just use of whatever leeway HMRC gives you before they get serious about collecting.

     

     

    However on the basis that it is 3 months and using figures supplied on RTC, every third month HMRC pay the substantial part of Rangers wage bill.

     

     

    Chancers.

  4. In relation to 8.1.5 (UEFA Ref. Article 50) – No payables Overdue towards Employees and Social/Tax Authorities

     

     

    8.2.16 Reporting Date

     

     

    Regardless of the statutory closing date or interim financial reporting date of a club, the criterion is to be assessed as at 31 March in respect of contractual and legal obligations towards its employees arising before 31 December of the year preceding the season to be licensed.

     

     

    For the purpose of criterion A.50, the term ‘employees’ includes the following persons:

     

     

    • All professional players according to the applicable FIFA Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players, and

     

     

    • Those administrative, technical and security staff listed in Section 11 – UEFA Mandatory Criteria and specifically Articles 28 to 33 and 36 to 39 (UEFA reference).

     

     

    Amounts payable at 31 December will sometimes include amounts due to people who, for various reasons, are no longer employed by the club. Regardless of the way such payables are accounted for in the financial statements, they fall within the framework of criterion A.50 which requires the obligation to be settled/paid within the period or duration stipulated in the contract and/or defined by law.

  5. Translated from mundodeportivo. Give em hell Celtic! HH

     

     

    Echoes still resound derby played on Saturday at the Bernabeu , but the red and white team is already thinking about the match on Wednesday in Glasgow. The Manzano want to forget as soon as possible what happened in the match against Real Madrid and put the five senses in this match of the Champions League that the athlete has to win to not complicate its European future. A victory in Glasgow classify Atletico Madrid for the next round of mathematical way, but a loss would cause the Manzano were playing it all at the last meeting Dec. 15 at the Rennes at the Vicente Calderon, always depending on the to make Celtic in Udine.

     

     

    So, what they want is to remove the red and whites and European competition until February and that goes for a win in Scotland. Hence, yesterday, the players begin to put their minds at Glasgow and delete all or nearly all of what happened at the Bernabeu. In fact, some players like Adrian and Asenjo or said in the locker room Chamartín “now playing in Europe think and win the Celtic League.” And in the red and white costumes want to make you pay the piper for the derby defeat to Celtic which is going through a very gentle in his league. The Scots will try to use it against Atletico and trust in the power of intimidation of its stadium to crush the apples. Something that, on the other hand, the Atletico players, aware that not be an easy match next Wednesday, but are convinced that ultimately end up imposing their technique. Although obviously the Atletico players know that to ensure its presence in Europe the next round should have the same attitude, the same aggressiveness as the one shown in the derby against Real Madrid. “If we play well, with this attitude, we a very difficult team to beat and go up, “Asenjo claimed to the press once the derby in the role of spokesman for the costumes.

     

     

    Gregorio Manzano has two days ahead to make the derby is a thing of the past and welcome the Europa League. The coach knows that if he can not do that, the shock of Glasgow can be put on an uphill struggle. Hence, yesterday was talking to his players to let them know that now is not worth Mateu Lahoz, neither red nor penalties. What matters now is to win at Celtic to stay alive in Europe and not repeat what happened last year in which Atletico went home to change first. Coach faces within 48 hours to exercise the work of psychologist with a costume that left the Santiago Bernabeu disappointed but hopeful that from now on Atletico Madrid only go up.

  6. 8.2.17 List of Employees

     

     

    All SPL clubs must prepare a schedule showing all employees (as defined in 8.9.1) who were employed at any time during the year to 31 December preceding the season to be licensed; i.e. not just those who remain at year end. The schedule shall be submitted to the SFA.

     

    The following information must be given, as a minimum, in respect of each employee:

     

     

    a) Name of the employee;

     

     

    b) Position/Function of the employee;

     

     

    c) Start date;

     

     

    d) Termination date (if applicable); and

     

     

    e) The balance due as at 31 December, including the due date for each unpaid element; and

     

     

    f) Any payable as at 31 March (rolled forward from 31 December), including the due date for each unpaid element, together with explanatory comment.

     

     

    The employees schedule must be approved by management and this must be evidenced by way of a brief statement and signature on behalf of the board of directors. Schedule A.50 refers.

     

     

    8.2.18 Documentation in Respect of Payables towards Social/Tax Authorities

     

     

    All SPL clubs must submit to the auditor and/or the licensor the necessary documentary evidence showing the amount payable (if any), as at 31 December of the year preceding the season to be licensed, as well as any payable at 31 March (rolled forward from 31 December), to the competent social/tax authorities in respect of contractual and legal obligations with its employees.

  7. 8.2.20 SFA Decision

     

     

    The licence will be refused:

     

     

    a) If the information in respect of payables overdue towards employees and social/tax authorities is not submitted to the licensor.

     

     

    b) If the club submits information that does not meet the minimum disclosure requirements.

     

     

    c) If the club has payables overdue at 31 March towards employees and social/tax authorities which arose before 31 December of the year preceding the season to be licensed.

     

     

    For the purpose of the licensing system, if the club has overdue payables at 31 December preceding the season to be licensed (see point C above), the licence may still be granted if the club is able to prove by the following 31 March that:

     

     

    a) it has paid the relevant amount in full; or

     

     

    b) it has concluded an agreement which has been accepted in writing by the creditor to extend the deadline for payment beyond the applicable deadline (note: the fact that a creditor may not have requested payment of an amount does not constitute an extension of the deadline); or

     

     

    c) it has brought a legal claim which has been deemed admissible by the competent authority under national law or has opened proceedings with the national or international football authorities or relevant arbitration tribunal contesting liability in relation to the overdue payables; however, if the decision-making bodies (licensor and/or Club Financial Control Panel) consider that such claim has been brought or such proceedings have been opened for the sole purpose of avoiding the applicable deadlines set out in these regulations (i.e. in order to buy time), the relevant amount will still be considered as an overdue payable; or

     

     

    d) it has contested a claim which has been brought or proceedings which have been opened against it by a creditor in respect of overdue payables and is able to demonstrate to the reasonable satisfaction of the relevant decision making bodies (licensor and/or Club Financial Control Panel) that the claim which has been brought or the proceedings which have been opened are manifestly unfounded.

     

     

    If the decision-making bodies consider that proceedings may have been opened by the licence applicant with the sole purpose to bring overdue balances into the disputed category (as a way of creating a situation as described in iii) above and ‘buying time’), the SFA may request additional evidence in order to be satisfied that it is ‘a not obviously unfounded dispute

  8. Template Letter A 50

     

     

    Employees Payables Reporting: Illustrative Form of Review Report

     

     

    Illustrative Report of Factual Findings to [Licence Applicant Name] (“The Club”)

     

    [Note: procedures in respect of each of payables towards employees and payables towards social/tax authorities are separately illustrated in this illustrative report.]

     

     

    Further to the requirements of the club licensing manual of the Scottish Football Association (“the SFA”), we have been engaged by the Club, under the terms of our engagement letter dated [date], to perform certain procedures in relation to the attached list of employees [and/or*] amounts payable to social/tax authorities as at 31 March 20YY.

     

     

    The list of employees [and/or*] amounts payable to social/tax authorities is the responsibility of, and has been approved by, the directors of the Club.

     

     

    Our report has been prepared solely for the Club in connection with its application for a Club Licence. It has been released to the Club and for information purposes only to the SFA on the basis that it shall not be copied, referred to or disclosed, in whole or in part (save for the Club and the SFA’s own internal purposes), without our prior written consent.

     

     

    Our report was designed to meet the agreed requirements of the Club. Our report should not therefore be regarded as suitable to be used or relied on by any party other than the Club. Any party other than the Club which obtains access to our report or a copy and chooses to rely on our report (or any part of it) will do so at their own risk. To the fullest extent permitted by law, we do not accept or assume responsibility or liability in respect of our report to anyone other than the Club.

     

     

    Scope of work [in respect of payables towards employees]

     

    Our work consisted of the following procedures:

     

    1) Obtaining the list of employees prepared by management.

     

     

    2) Obtaining representations from the directors of the Club that either:

     

     

    i) the balance in respect of each employee relating to the period ending 31 December 20XX has been fully paid as of the date of our examination [or by 31 March 20YY if the date of examination is later]; [or*]

     

     

    ii) an agreement has been reached for payment on deferred terms in respect of [identify employee(s)]; [or*]

     

     

    iii) a dispute has arisen in respect of [identify employee(s)] and is subject to resolution by [name of competent body].

     

     

    3) Examination of the bank statements, in support of the representations under 3(i) above.

     

     

    4) Examination of documents, including agreements with the relevant employee(s) and/or correspondence with the competent body, in support of the representations under 3(ii) [and/or*] 3(iii) above.

     

     

     

    Conclusion [in respect of payables towards employees]

     

    Based solely on the work described above, in our opinion:

     

     

    [either*] All the recorded payables towards employees arising before 31 December 20XX have according to the accounting records of the Club since that date been paid in full by 31 March 20YY.

     

     

    [or*] All the recorded payables towards employees arising before 31 December 20XX are in the course of payment under an agreement with the employee concerned (a copy of the agreement letter is attached) [and/or*] are in the course of a dispute that has been submitted to a competent authority (a copy of correspondence with the competent authority is attached).

     

     

    [or*] [Detail any exceptions]

     

     

     

    Scope of work [in respect of payables towards social/tax authorities]

     

    Our work consisted of the following procedures:

     

     

    1) Agreeing the recorded balance of payroll taxes as at 31 December 20XX to the payroll records of the Club.

     

     

    2) Obtaining representations from the directors of the Club that either:

     

     

    i) the balance that was due relating to the period before 31 December 20XX has been fully paid as of the date of our examination [or by 31 March 20YY if the date of examination is later]; [or*]

     

     

    ii) an agreement has been reached for payment on deferred terms; [or*]

     

     

    iii) a dispute has arisen and is subject to resolution by [name of competent national or international body].

     

     

    3) Examination of the bank statements, in support of the representations under 2(i) above.

     

     

    4) Examination of documents, including agreements with the taxation authorities and/or correspondence with the competent body, in support of the representations under 2(ii) [and/or*] 2(iii) above.

     

     

    Conclusion [in respect of payables towards social/tax authorities]

     

    Based solely on the work described above, in our opinion:

     

     

    [either*] All the recorded payroll taxes arising before 31 December 20XX have according to the accounting records of the Club since that date been paid in full by 31 March 20YY.

     

     

    [or*] All the recorded payroll taxes outstanding at 31 December 20XX are in the course of payment under an agreement with the social/tax authorities (a copy of the agreement letter is attached) [and/or*] are in the course of a dispute that has been submitted to a competent authority (a copy of correspondence with the competent authority is attached).

     

     

    [or*] [Detail any exceptions]

     

     

    Our work was restricted to the procedures set out above and was not directed to the discovery of errors or misstatements which we consider to be immaterial. The procedures we performed did not constitute an audit or a review of any kind. Had we performed additional procedures or had we performed an audit or review of the payables due towards employees and/or social/tax authorities, other matters might have come to our attention that would have been reported to you. This report relates only to the payables due towards employees and/or social/tax authorities and does not extend to any financial statements of the Club, taken as a whole.

     

     

    We do not accept any responsibility for any reports previously given on any financial information used in the preparation of this report (including any audit reports on the financial statements or tax advice provided) beyond that owed to those to whom those reports were addressed by us at the date of their issue. This provision shall also apply to any reports (including audit reports and tax advice) issued in future.

     

     

     

    (Signature)

     

    Auditor

     

     

    [Date of report]

     

    *delete as appropriate

  9. Declan,

     

     

    Ahem, faithful is a more comfortable word. However, fair play to you. Who cares what you think (or how you say it) as long as you’ve got some manners about you.

     

     

    Canalmar, I honestly think it’s a stupid question. It’s not necessarily bad rhetoric, but it’s a question that has no sensible answer. As many pointed out, where are you drawing the line. All you can say is you pay your own taxes, and they are divvied up as the goverment see fit.

  10. The Honest Mistake (Sickened) on

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo 28 November, 2011 at 12:35

     

     

    who does the SFA use as an THE independent auditor for the finance requirements for SPL clubs ?

     

     

    Mullet and co.

  11. ASonOfDan

     

     

    “The Scots will try to use it against Atletico and trust in the power of intimidation of its stadium to crush the apples”

     

     

     

    Just beautiful…….

  12. Paul67

     

     

    A good lead at attempting to restore a bit of balance on the judgement of others front.

     

     

    Plank in our own eye stuff that planks often miss in the search for the other plank’s eye.

     

     

    The world is moving on and new ways of being rivals without the poison are required.

  13. row z \o/ (O) Mississippi Burnin Nearer Home on

    Aw Naw

     

     

    I thought I read somewhere that RFC had now lodged (how ironic) accounts?

     

     

    On your link ,why is Murray’s milliuons of shares to Whitey Whyte not recorded on the share trade history?

  14. LiviBhoy says:

     

    28 November, 2011 at 12:34

     

     

    It disnae matter what they do or don’t do. It is All about Celtic now and coming from the 15 points behind to 4 points now is not really a big surprise.

     

     

    Ally is a Fake, he is trying to be a manager and when he has to manage disgruntled people he will realise just how VERY GOOD Neil Lennon really is.

     

     

    What Neil Lennon has faced down is the stuff of Legend.

     

     

    We are on the cusp of something really special IMO.

     

     

    Stringer Bell

     

     

    If Neil sanctions it, Thumbs up from me. Probably looking at the Lambertino Bhoy.

  15. Afternoon bhoys, warm, the sun is out and hun free.

     

     

    A post from our ” Loyal ” Declan.

     

     

    Declan Is Neil Lennon 1888 Hates being 2nd says:

     

    27 November, 2011 at 22:36

     

    The usual on here. You say a few things that are no 100% complomantery of the Celtic and you are automatically a hun. i have supported the Celtic since i was a nipper. i have been to ireland loads. i am a tim. Staunch and loyal. I sit right beside the green brigade. i even started a chant with them once before. was magic.

     

     

    i hate the huns even though they are the champions and they have an excellennt young manager who has clearly learned from the legned who had the job before him.

     

     

    Also i am not laughing about Aluko. He always looked like a good player to me. Showed how much he wants to play for the Rangers by paying himself. How many of our lot would do that? Not many i think. More to come from Aluko, he just needs the right sort of club to play it, they may be the right club. i am afraid he might score the winner at new year.

  16. petec says:

     

    28 November, 2011 at 12:44

     

     

    Rickie Lambert would do me. Can he score penalties?

     

     

    LB

  17. The Falcon

     

     

    I hope we do crush their apples! No idea what costumes they are showing up in, as long as it is not Clowns. I hate Clowns… :0)

  18. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    bontybhoy,

     

    more evasion, it seems to be a habit with you huns eh,

     

    if its no your taxes its avoiding your responsibilities.

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    The Honest Mistake (Sickened) says:

     

    28 November, 2011 at 12:42

     

    Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo 28 November, 2011 at 12:35

     

     

    who does the SFA use as an THE independent auditor for the finance requirements for SPL clubs ?

     

     

    Mullet and co.

     

     

    What? They use Billy-Ray Cyrus as an auditor???? I can believe the Billy bit!

  20. THE EXILED TIM

     

     

    LOL!!

     

     

    I seriously can’t stop laughing at ‘Declan’ funniest thing ever…

  21. Paul,

     

     

    Good post. In the current climate I can’t believe Kenneth’s comments.. As for Broadfoot, not surprised and think Super Swally is feeling the heat from the fickle support.

     

     

    A few twists in this title yet……

     

     

    SPC

  22. LiviBhoy says:

     

    28 November, 2011 at 12:47

     

     

    He is in the age bracket Neil had commented was missing from his team.

     

     

    I think free kicks are like penalties to him. :))

     

     

    Penalties ‘should’ be nae problem to him.

  23. THE EXILED TIM says:

     

    28 November, 2011 at 12:47

     

     

    I think Declan is a Celtic fan pretending (for comedic effect) to be a Rangers fan who is posing as a Celtic fan.

     

     

    Of course I may be wrong and he may just be an idiot.

  24. Declan Is Neil Lennon 1888 Hates being 2nd on

    The Exiled Tim – thanks for putting that up. i am getting tired of having to constantly prove my celtic credenshuls on here. i wont be hounded away though

  25. petec says:

     

    28 November, 2011 at 12:51

     

     

    Surprised an EPL team hasn’t snapped him up to be honest but they are obssessed with signing CL forwards who cost a fortune in transfer fees and wages and are as mad as hatters.

     

     

    Hooiveld plus cash and Rickie Lambert would be a good addition to the squad. Does it mean one of our Bhoys go?

     

     

    How gutted are the press that Sami scored at the weekend? They can’t quote how long it’s been since he scored. Hope the big man plays like that every week. The player he should be.

     

     

    LB

  26. bournesouprecipe says:

     

    28 November, 2011 at 12:52

     

     

    Was there anything else on the softee? roll n mayo…..yuck.

  27. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:

     

     

    28 November, 2011 at 12:16

     

     

    It is interesting just what an impact Naismith’s injury has had. Celtic were keen not to quote injuries for the very reason they would be seen as an excuse for poor performances. They have been given a mention by Celtic but no real focus has been placed on them yet if they happen to key players or any players for a key position, they can have quite an impact.

     

     

    Rangers could not have won as many games as they had had they our injury problems in key positions.

  28. BontyBhoy and Declan beware…

     

     

     

    Internet users have been warned about a scam message claiming to be from Scottish police asking to pay a fine for viewing adult content.

     

     

    Strathclyde Police said officers were aware of a number of incidents where a pop-up window appeared, telling users their machine had been locked.

     

     

    The message claims they have been viewing adult content and asks users to pay a £100 fine over the phone.

     

     

    The force said this was an online scam and that inquiries were under way.

  29. The Honest Mistake (Sickened) on

    RavenCelt 28 November, 2011 at 12:52

     

     

    I think Declan is a Celtic fan pretending (for comedic effect) to be a Rangers fan who is posing as a Celtic fan.

     

     

    The alternative is that he’s a rangers fan pretending to be a Celtic fan pretending (for comedic effect) to be a rangers fan who is posing as a Celtic fan.

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