I don’t know what was said to Neil Lennon after the victory over Dunfermline last week but if it caused him to react I can imagine the tone. The few visits I made to the South Stand during Gordon Strachan’s tenure left an indelible image of life as a Celtic manager.
Whatever Kirk Broadfoot did or did not say to Rangers fans towards the end of their defeat at Kilmarnock yesterday, does anyone seriously think it contained more invective than has been hurled at the player for most of his career?
The self-righteous indignation some football fans exhibit when an employee earning [insert a completely irrelevant figure here]exhibits intolerance to what would get you barred for life from any other workplace in the country is the epitome of hypocrisy.
Garry Kenneth, who is likely to face Celtic at Tannadice on Sunday, today told the world he will not be renewing his contract when it expires at the end of the season, saying, “Dundee United are a feeder club, it has always been like that.” Ouch. Whatever Kenneth thinks of United he should at least respect their fans emotional investment in the club to be a whole lot more careful with his words. Should make for a tense afternoon in the United defence, especially if we can put the big guy under some pressure.
Big game on Wednesday. A win would fire enormous impetus into our season. Whatever the outcome, the game will provide Neil Lennon with a guide on how to play in the hugely important month ahead.
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TBB –
When I think about it, why should a company be allowed to deduct tax payments from employees and keep the money in their own bank, earning interest, when it could be in HMRC’s bank, earning interest for the Treaury.
So yes, I stand corrected.
Tom McLaughlin thanks for that.
V
HH
Tom @ 09:31
Talking about standing …
Normally I can’t be ar**ed with these ‘Stand up if you [insert phrase here]’ chants, but I might be tempted to stand to a chorus of ‘Stand up if you pay your tax’.
I wonder if our directors’ box might be tempted to join in that one on the 28th of December …
Morning bhoys, warm and hun free.
Don’t know if been posted sorry if it has.
By RICHARD MORIARTY
Published: Today
TRAGIC football star Gary Speed was NOT depressed and did NOT row with wife Louise before killing himself, his agent said yesterday.
Hayden Evans added: “She doesn’t understand it. They were happily married. It’s a mystery.”
Gary’s wife says she is bewildered and baffled by his suicide.
Hayden, also the couple’s best man, said yesterday the couple had not argued before Wales boss Gary hanged himself.
He added: “Louise is saying that’s not the case. She just doesn’t understand it.”
Hayden, speaking as Alan Shearer told of his own anguish over close pal Gary’s death, said no one could explain the tragedy.
He added: “They were happily married and anyone who knows them will tell you that. This is why it’s a mystery.
“We genuinely at the moment have no clue whatsoever what has caused it and I have been with the family all day.
“Everybody is asking the same question and no one has an answer. We are all in shock.”
When asked if the former Newcastle, Leeds, Everton, Bolton and Sheffield United midfielder had suffered bouts of depression, Hayden said: “None whatsoever.
“The one thing the family and me as one of his closest friends would totally refute is that. There was no indication of any problems and never has been.”
Hayden was among the last people to speak to 42-year-old dad-of-two Gary, who was found dead by Louise early on Sunday.
The pair chatted on the phone around Saturday tea-time. Hayden said: “He was as happy as can be.”
Former Newcastle team-mate Shearer had been with Gary at the BBC’s Salford studios on Saturday afternoon, just hours before he was found dead at his home in Huntington, Cheshire.
Shearer, whose family took holidays with Gary’s, said there was no hint of a problem.
He said: “The question I keep asking myself and have done since I heard the dreadful news is ‘Why? Why Speedo, didn’t you give me or one of your other close mates a ring, if you were feeling so bad?’
“Why he couldn’t have picked up the phone for a chat in those moments before he did what he did, I’ll never know. None of us will.
“I was with him on Saturday watching the Stoke game and arranging next weekend.
“He was coming up with his wife to stay at my house. We were going to various charity dinners. I left the studio, shook his hand and said, ‘See you next weekend.’ Unfortunately I won’t.”
Shearer, his voice breaking with emotion, added: “This just doesn’t happen to one of your best mate
“My wife is in bits. We just keep thinking of Louise, the two boys and his mum and dad. I can’t imagine the pain they’re going through. I can’t get my head around the fact I was with him and he was happy, joking.
“We were having a laugh and joke about golf trips and holidays that we went on together last year.
“We were planning our next holiday in Portugal next summer with the families and the kids.”
The two men were together for six years at Newcastle. Shearer said: “I played against him many times, but when Kenny Dalglish signed him for Newcastle straight away we struck up a relationship. You’re bound to have arguments along the way in football — but no one ever did with Gary.
“No one had a bad word for him. He was what you’d describe as a proper bloke, a proper man. You could depend on him.”
Gary’s family said they have been “overwhelmed” by messages of support and condolence.
Fans have left a growing number of footballs, shirts and flowers outside his home in tribute.
Police will ask Louise for details of Gary’s final hours as they put together a report for the coroner.
Staff at Gary’s old school yesterday described him as “a superb role model.”
He was at Hawarden High School in the 1980s. Louise was in the same year. Manchester United’s Michael Owen was also a pupil.
Gary kept in touch. He presented prizes to pupils in 2002 and donated the shirt he wore the first time he captained Wales.
Deputy head Paul Ellis said: “I taught both him and Louise. He never forgot his roots.” Jonathan Ford, chief executive of the Football Association of Wales, said the world may never know what made Gary take his own life. He added: “I don’t know the answer and don’t think we ever will.”
Mr Ford said Louise, 40, and sons Ed, 14, and Tom, 13, were devastated. He added: “We will do whatever we can to help Louise and the boys although I am not sure we can help.
“We will do whatever we can in this terrible time. We got together as a staff this morning and went into a huddle and cried.” Welsh football bosses plan a garden of remembrance in Gary’s honour.
Fans yesterday continued to leave scarves, shirts and flowers at the gates of his former clubs.
And fellow footballers again paid tribute to Gary, a model professional who made over 700 club appearances and played 85 times for his country.
r.moriarty@thesun.co.uk
jhilday says:
29 November, 2011 at 07:48
Vmhan,
Hope it lets up for tomorrow night.
I got soaked on Saturday!
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Aye,inside AND oot!
JealousguyCSC
Absolutely pouring down in Glasgow this morning. If it was like this yesterday it might have pout the fire out!
Tom McLaughlin
Enjoy the sunshine, localised flooding predicted here, peeing down.
Moved house 3 weeks ago, broadband only connected, not been on here reading much. Your health still good?
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/celtic-again-move-maritimo-s-diawara-2243091?utm_source=feed_newsnow
midfield maestro –
Yes, still behaving myself and staying active.
Can’t complain.
Cheers mate.
So the quintessentially british club are not paying the PAYE or NI on time
at this stage its NOT fraud……..at this stage, probably just an oversight as one bill looks like another and lets be fair they do have a mountain of bills not to pay
It is though another example of how morally corrupt they are.
Im sure the media will point out the error of their ways particularly during this period of austerity the country faces.
wont they?
Che don’t hold you’re breath waiting.
V
Good Morning to the Celtic family from a very Wet Central Scotland. After reading the post about Gary Speed I will point out that people who are depressed can hide it very well.They often fear the stigma associated with the illness however,the badly need help. When they accept they are suffering and unlikely to feel any better and they consult there GP this the first step to manageing the illness I deliberately didnt say cure as most depressives have bouts now and then but medical help keeps it under control.H.H.
Whyte’s strategy seems to be not to pay any bill until forced to. Doesn’t this just rack up the legal fees?
Anyone else having problems with an intermittent Sky broadband connection?
This is driving me nuts.
Which one of you sods organised a whipround to bribe a saboteur?
Joe
I posted that because the assumption is he was depressed, I said from the start there might just be other reasons, I’m not saying he wasn’t, just there might be another answer.
Surely the SFA would put it out that they need to investigate what’s happening with a club withholding tax?
It may be technically legal but it must stray into licensing territory,it also looks terribly undignified.
hyaw hyaw hyaw.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon says:
29 November, 2011 at 10:03
They take their place in the queue. :)
Wee horse today for my friend Vmhan,
My mate Vinnie,2.30@southwell…
TOM McLAUGHLIN 0901
Clinical depression is a nasty little illness-usually easily controlled,so when a B-A-D bout hits,the sufferer can be caught off-guard,and virtually defenceless. It can creep up on you,and blindside you totally.
Bipolar disorder,as I am led to believe,is a different animal. The highs can be exhilirating,the lows crushing,and when they both happen at once is when care has to be taken.
Obviously a simplistic explanation,but a decent one for someone who has had the good fortune to avoid both.
Vmhan♣ who Supports Neil Lennon says:
29 November, 2011 at 10:02
thanks for the tip!
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon says:
29 November, 2011 at 10:03
‘Whyte’s strategy seems to be not to pay any bill until forced to. Doesn’t this just rack up the legal fees?’
Which would be a valid criticism if his intention was to trade his way out of the problem.
I don’t think that’s his intention.
As the festive period approaches, get yourself in the mood with a wee sing-song. Gather your family round the fireplace and be merry:
On the first day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
A Victor Wanyama.
On the second day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the third day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the fourth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Four Victor Wanyamas,
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the fifth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Five Victor Wanyamas,
Four Victor Wanyamas,
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the sixth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Six Victor Wanyamas,
Five Victor Wanyamas,
Four Victor Wanyamas,
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the seventh day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Seven Victor Wanyamas,
Six Victor Wanyamas,
Five Victor Wanyamas,
Four Victor Wanyamas,
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the eighth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Eight Victor Wanyamas,
Seven Victor Wanyamas,
Six Victor Wanyamas,
Five Victor Wanyamas,
Four Victor Wanyamas,
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the ninth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Nine Victor Wanyamas,
Eight Victor Wanyamas,
Seven Victor Wanyamas,
Six Victor Wanyamas,
Five Victor Wanyamas,
Four Victor Wanyamas,
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the tenth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Ten Victor Wanyamas,
Nine Victor Wanyamas,
Eight Victor Wanyamas,
Seven Victor Wanyamas,
Six Victor Wanyamas,
Five Victor Wanyamas,
Four Victor Wanyamas,
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the eleventh day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Eleven Victor Wanyamas,
Ten Victor Wanyamas,
Nine Victor Wanyamas,
Eight Victor Wanyamas,
Seven Victor Wanyamas,
Six Victor Wanyamas,
Five Victor Wanyamas,
Four Victor Wanyamas,
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama.
On the twelfth day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me
Twelve Victor Wanyamas,
Eleven Victor Wanyamas,
Ten Victor Wanyamas,
Nine Victor Wanyamas,
Eight Victor Wanyamas,
Seven Victor Wanyamas,
Six Victor Wanyamas,
Five Victor Wanyamas,
Four Victor Wanyamas,
Three Victor Wanyamas,
Two Victor Wanyamas,
And a Victor Wanyama!
THE EXILED TIM says:
29 November, 2011 at 10:12
I doubt it was clinical depression that triggered the suicide.
Some people seem to be more prone to suicide than others and there’s evidence that it runs in families. Whether that’s nature or nurture I don’t know.
TET
There could be all sorts of reasons for his suicide but I suppose depression can be caused by many different things it just makes you appreciate even more the strength of our own manager and what he’s had to put up with on top of his own everyday pressures.
I once caught the tail end of a programme about a form of depression/anxiety which Tony Blairs spin man Alistair Campbell suffered from,from what he was describing it sounded absolutely frightening,I’ve always wanted to see the whole of the programme but didn’t get the name.
Davebhoy67 says:
29 November, 2011 at 10:22
If you take Victor out it’s actually not too bad. Trying to sing both Victor and Wanyama doesn’t work for me. The GB might pick this up for some festive singing.
LB
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
Funny you should say that my Sky broadband has been acting up all morning thought it was my router, better stop hitting it.
Why have rangers been included in an official delegation to Brazil and being touted as a Scottish export?
One Nation…
Kittoch says:
29 November, 2011 at 10:29
Could it be the weather?
ASonOfDan says:
29 November, 2011 at 10:30
Do you have a link to this?
LB
2 days without the blog after I did a Hp advisor update- knackered my pavillion dv7 ‘cos of prob with the fingerprint recognition thing (my stub was receiving bad data) and had to do a system restore, the first blog I see is
Davebhoy67 says:
29 November, 2011 at 10:22
brilliant
love celtic
love cqn
love lennie
completely off message but essential viewing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpvgfmEU2Ck
Lads the Huns can do what they like in Scotland.
I have been blocked on twitter by Mr Regan and everytime I send an email to info@sfa.co.uk it comes back saying delayed and then fails.
I take it the SFA have barred me aswell.
ASonOfDan 29 November, 2011 at 10:30:
Why have rangers been included in an official delegation to Brazil and being touted as a Scottish export?
It’ll be like trying to sell sand to the Arabs.
Brazil already has a violence problem, parades, corruption and problems with tax evasion. Why would they want rangers?
ASonOfDan@10:30 – Yeah, I read that, thoroughly embarassing and a frightening picture.
Huns/Brazil
Stand up if you pay your tax
Quality chant
KITTOCH 1029
Cheers for the reply,bud. Possibly other people with the problem were unable to answer!
Apart from driving me nuts,I keep getting a horrible wee orange light amongst the lovely green ones.
This will not do…..
ASonOfDan says:
29 November, 2011 at 10:30
‘Why have rangers been included in an official delegation to Brazil and being touted as a Scottish export?’
It’s a reward for the huns not paying their taxes.
They get to go on holiday to Brazil and the taxpayer funds it.
The Exiled Tim,
I posted this reply to you last night, just after you closed the cave door for the night:_
thomthethim says:
29 November, 2011 at 00:20
THE EXILED TIM says:
28 November, 2011 at 23:55
Now, my disagreeable friend, how do you move on a player who doesn’t want to move?
How do you make a player sign a contract extension when he doesn’t want to?
The CEO who could pull those deals off, would be worth a pretty penny to his club.
Short of Scott Brown waking up with Shergar’s head for company, I can’t see how the club can force the issue.
Nope, as you agreed, the players hold all the aces.
I’m off the cot now, will check back in the morning.
Via con Dias, mi amigo.
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