You would never believe that we’d lost that match 4-2 after having a two goal lead. You’d never think that Milan played well beneath themselves, stepping up only when they had to. You’d never believe we were rock bottom of the group, dead, buried and out.
You’d never believe we’re two wins in eleven games.
Tonight, Lennon’s a swaggering conqueror. After we’ve just been beat, and comfortably.
I feel a little bit, tonight, like Graham Hess, in Signs, and yes I know it has a happy ending … but it’s not the ending I’m thinking of, it’s the conversation he has with his son when they are watching the TV footage of the alien ships, and they discuss the “two types of people” – those who see “signs” and hope and optimism and conclude that even if the worst is true there’s a God or whatever looking out for them and that it will all be okay. The other type sees those lights and thinks “OMFG we’re doomed …”
I never considered myself one of the second group, never ever ever.
But I can only conclude listening to Lennon tonight and knowing that those in the boardroom will be lapping up every single word of it, that we are truly screwed.
“There is no one looking out for us. We are all alone.”
geebee1978 on
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:03 PM
It was me who suggested it and I’d rather loan him out than have him sitting on the bench. The reason being, he gets game time, hopefully, plays himself back into form in the shop window and we recoup as much as possible in the summer and put it down to one of those things.
While he sits on our bench, he eats up wages and his value goes down.
prestonpans bhoys on
RAY SINGH-CARR on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:02 PM
You are a ray (pun intended) of light on another poor night 👍👏👏👏
David66 on
David17 – Stay possitive fella hopefully just hopefully we start to turn our season around on Sunday by putting on a show.
HH
D :)
glendalystonsils on
PRESTONPANS BHOYS
That’s 3 people who have disagreed with me about 3 different players tonight . Am no playin!!
Actually , yer all wrang!
big wavy on
2 wins from 11 games
3 defeats in a row
4 games without a win
1 win from 5 games
13 wins from 26 games
27 goals conceded (10 conceded in the last 3 games)
Free pass for Neil tonight, as will Sunday. His testimonial season takes us to the 20th December and then a transfer window probably.
Free pass tonight but quite the opposite on Sunday .
big wavy on
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:12 PM
Big Wavy
Free pass tonight but quite the opposite on Sunday .
—
I’m only passing on what Peter Lawell tells us all….
Our views don’t count.
David66 on
Big Wavy add to that list the worst goals conceded record of all 48 teams in EL.
That alone is shocking.
D :)
DownForSam on
Or sack Neil Lennon and hire a manager who can organise the team to stop giving the opposition as many chances.
We are soft in midfield. Kamikaze in defence. Our keepers are not great, but the problem goes way beyond just them.
st tams on
Frimpong creates absolutely nothing. His decision making is woeful and is caught in possession too often.
I really don’t understand what people see in him
prestonpans bhoys on
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:08 PM
That’s the fun about this blog all about opinions, at least it didn’t degrade to verbal abuse, which sadly is becoming the norm these days😯 on here.
Oh the old days of CQN congenial discussion, Friday night quiz and then music time to the wee hours.
Then you wake up next morning and find oot you have posted a whole lot of punk music 😂😂😂😂 and cannae remember😵😱
geebee1978 on
ST TAMS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:17 PM
Our crossing from wide positions is abysmal and we get done down there easily.
Despite the pace we have, there’s never any end product and we seem vulnerable there too.
I’ll get my tin hat on as people won’t like this but Laxalt and Frimpong are similar in that respect. Both quick and all-action but very little end product.
Tontine Tim on
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 9:00 PM
I don’t get the criticism of Laxalt either . Actually I’m beginning to think that every player we sign should be a loan with option to buy . The scouting team obviously can’t be trusted with money , and it would give other people with half a clue a proper chance to assess if a player is worth buying .
*got me thinking again, that’s twice in one day, but I recall when you started a new job you were on probation, might have been 6 weeks and that allowed the company tae pump you if you didnae pan out, in fact when I started my time I was on 6 months probation before I was indentured or as the song says “apprentice tae trade I was bound”.
TheLurkinTim on
D66…last I red…MM was on hols spreadng Covid…has he also been banned? I really need to up my game lol
H.H.
DownForSam on
ST TAMS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:17 PM
Seriously! He’s a kid with raw talent. Needs some coaching for sure. I bet Brendan Rodgers could polish him into a much better player. Neil Lennon doesn’t do coaching.
Barkas 5: with his feet he risks too much, like when he gives Hauge a ball but the Rossoneri are unable to finish. And he is also surprised by Calhanoglu on his pole.
Elhamed 5.5: Hauge is in the evening of grace, the full-back cannot contain the fury of the Norwegian: he punctually loses the duel, whether it is offensive or defensive.
Bitton 5.5: a few too many carelessness, leads a rearguard that comes out of San Siro with four goals on the back.
Ajer 6: especially in the second half he takes courage and shows great personality, carrying the ball and recovering several balls.
Laxalt 6: lives a special challenge, against his latest team in Italy. He struggles to keep Castillejo, he is a little better when it comes to attacking and overall he keeps the attention high.
McGregor 5.5: he has an excellent opportunity on his feet, but he kicks too centrally. He does a decent job of filtering in front of the defense.
Brown 6.5: he is the man everywhere of Celtic, he can be found pressing in all areas of the median on the opposite Rossoneri (from 78 ‘Soro sv).
Christie 6: illuminating the through ball for Edouard for the doubling that made Celtic dream, then after the warning disappears from the radar. It is reviewed with a punishment on which Donnarumma is forced to overcome (from 86 ‘Klimala sv).
Rogic 6: right times for pressing on Krunic and to win the ball for 0-1, a few minutes later he goes close to his personal double. He falls at a distance (from 67 ‘Ntcham 5.5: he does not enter the game very well, without being able to leave his mark).
Frimpong 6.5: offers an important contribution to the team, often targeting Hernandez and sending him into trouble.
Edouard 6: excellent agreement with Christie when he sends him in goal for the double: nice touch underneath to overcome Donnarumma
glendalystonsils on
PRESTONPANS BHOYS
The good old days , when the blog was fun and Celtic could defend!-)))
fourstonecoppi on
ST TAMS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:17 PM
Frimpong creates absolutely nothing. His decision making is woeful and is caught in possession too often.
I really don’t understand what people see in him
hate to say it but i agree!
Henry Joy on
I have this much from a reliable football agent of a Celtic mind – Never mind the the transfer window, Southampton already have offers for Forster we couldnt touch even with his outstretched arm on our side. Forget it.
NorrieM on
Think about this, and how we have got here
Barkas – allegedly unsettled in Scotland ?? Who has s helping here ??
For me Elhamed a poor right back
Bitton & Ajer, stopped developing as Centre Halfs, and should return to midfield ? Although looks like Ajer will be sold
Laxalt – a loanee at left back
That’s a full back 5 we need
( yes Julienne to come in, but Duffy to go out as well ?)
Midfield
Scott Brown in his last season, Christie, Ntcham & Rogic all want away, if rumours are to be believed ? Plus Elyanousi to return to his club
Bring in Turnbull, still to be compnvinced Soro has any future ?
Still means we need 3 other midfielders
Forwards
Edouard to go, will Griffiths ever get back to playing regularly for us, now 2 years since he played regularly, Klimala needs to go out on loan to develop ( he will nneed t at Celtic with current coaching set up)
So at least 2 new forwards
That’s 10 new players required to stand still
How on earth did we get to this position, and who is to blame ????
Manager or above that level ???
David66 on
TLT – Hecsaid he was going to self exile if Big Jimmy was Red carded.
I have not seen him post so I presume he is in exile.
MM – If I am wrong come on and give us an update.
D :)
glendalystonsils on
HENRY JOY
We Should have a list of possible keepers with more than FF’s name on it anyway.
geebee1978 on
NORRIEM on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:29 PM
The buck stops at the top. People might want to point the finger at managers and head of recruitment with some justification but the ones at the top appoint them and continue to employ them.
geebee1978 on
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:31 PM
Exactly. FF was only ever on loan anyway and we knew what kind of money he was on at Souuthamton. We should’ve had a plan B and plan C in place.
Barkas to me looked like a bit of a panic signing.
st tams on
GEEBEE1978
I agree. Lots of pace and enthusiasm but no assists.
David66 on
Big Jimmy – keep checking those emails.
Although I think it might be 2nd class post with how long it’s taking or pager.
D :)
prestonpans bhoys on
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:25 PM
I remember one Friday night I started a comment with the first sentence of a rebs song, then others joined in.
Lasted about two hours or more likely we were to drunk to continue😂😂😂😂
timhorton on
Laxalt i love his energy and good going forward but i don’t think he is a good defender imo.
Go tell the Spartim on
Most galling stat
Moravcik67
@Moravcik67_
·
2h
With one game to play, this 20/21 Celtic team currently ranks 570th of 576 when ranked by fewest goals conceded in the EL group stage. Only 6 times has a club conceded more than 17 goals.
If Lille score 3 against in the last game we’ll have matched the record for goals conceded.
But hey we played well …….
Jake73 on
Long time lurker etc , etc but watching that catastrophic defending tonight took me back to MO’Ns appointment in….. 2000 i think ; his first signing , I’m sure , was big Joos and was followed up fairly soon after with Bobo . Our defence was shored up in a pre-season and we went on to win the treble in Martin’s first year. We need that sort of defensive mind set now . We could also do with at least one hard ball winner in midfield and that would release our two wing backs to play to their strengths.
HH
Melbourne Mick on
Hello again all you young rebels.
DAVID 66 / THE LURKIN TIM
As I explained re- the red card for a good poster who has no contact
with anyone apart from the good people on here was reprehensible.
He also has failing health problems and as we all know he was goaded
to the extreme, and the mods obviously just listened to the whines of
the agitators instead of looking at the whole picture.
However if big Jimmy gets back then I’ll be happy to join this dear
green place again.
Bit better for The Bhoys against Milan, but mega changes needed all
round.
H.H. Mick
Tontine Tim on
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:25 PM
PRESTONPANS BHOYS
The good old days , when the blog was fun and Celtic could defend!-)))
*and after a loss like this we had the comfort of dropping intae the Europa.
Tontine Tim on
JAKE73 on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:44 PM
Long time lurker etc , etc but watching that catastrophic defending tonight took me back to MO’Ns appointment in….. 2000 i think ; his first signing , I’m sure , was big Joos and was followed up fairly soon after with Bobo . Our defence was shored up in a pre-season and we went on to win the treble in Martin’s first year.
*After losing 1-5 at hades with a team that was minus Lambo injured and Stubbies health concern he went out and signed Lenny and Ramon the Treble, as he called him.
prestonpans bhoys on
TONTINE TIM on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:47 PM
We cannae even drop into the league cup😵😱
RC on
don’t think the weakened AC needed to get of 2nd gear tonight to put 4 passed us.
stebhoy on
I thought frimpong was a bright spark tonight and tracked back and made a nuisance of himself. So he honest have many assists? ok, how many goals or opportunities are created through 2nd, 4rd, 4th phase passes AFTER he gets the team 50yards up the pitch with his pace.
I was delighted to have him in an advanced role.
We need 2-3 players in the side who’s ability is defending. moving Bitton and Ajer into midfield also adds some physicality in front of the defense.
We need to hang on until January – then hope the players we bring in are actually defenders and can hit the ground running.
Our lack of leaders / talkers / shouters at the back for me is a basic basic management mistake
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Astonishing post-match presser again from Lennon.
You would never believe that we’d lost that match 4-2 after having a two goal lead. You’d never think that Milan played well beneath themselves, stepping up only when they had to. You’d never believe we were rock bottom of the group, dead, buried and out.
You’d never believe we’re two wins in eleven games.
Tonight, Lennon’s a swaggering conqueror. After we’ve just been beat, and comfortably.
I feel a little bit, tonight, like Graham Hess, in Signs, and yes I know it has a happy ending … but it’s not the ending I’m thinking of, it’s the conversation he has with his son when they are watching the TV footage of the alien ships, and they discuss the “two types of people” – those who see “signs” and hope and optimism and conclude that even if the worst is true there’s a God or whatever looking out for them and that it will all be okay. The other type sees those lights and thinks “OMFG we’re doomed …”
I never considered myself one of the second group, never ever ever.
But I can only conclude listening to Lennon tonight and knowing that those in the boardroom will be lapping up every single word of it, that we are truly screwed.
“There is no one looking out for us. We are all alone.”
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:03 PM
It was me who suggested it and I’d rather loan him out than have him sitting on the bench. The reason being, he gets game time, hopefully, plays himself back into form in the shop window and we recoup as much as possible in the summer and put it down to one of those things.
While he sits on our bench, he eats up wages and his value goes down.
RAY SINGH-CARR on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:02 PM
You are a ray (pun intended) of light on another poor night 👍👏👏👏
David17 – Stay possitive fella hopefully just hopefully we start to turn our season around on Sunday by putting on a show.
HH
D :)
PRESTONPANS BHOYS
That’s 3 people who have disagreed with me about 3 different players tonight . Am no playin!!
Actually , yer all wrang!
2 wins from 11 games
3 defeats in a row
4 games without a win
1 win from 5 games
13 wins from 26 games
27 goals conceded (10 conceded in the last 3 games)
Free pass for Neil tonight, as will Sunday. His testimonial season takes us to the 20th December and then a transfer window probably.
HH and Nitol….
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Big Wavy
Free pass tonight but quite the opposite on Sunday .
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:12 PM
Big Wavy
Free pass tonight but quite the opposite on Sunday .
—
I’m only passing on what Peter Lawell tells us all….
Our views don’t count.
Big Wavy add to that list the worst goals conceded record of all 48 teams in EL.
That alone is shocking.
D :)
Or sack Neil Lennon and hire a manager who can organise the team to stop giving the opposition as many chances.
We are soft in midfield. Kamikaze in defence. Our keepers are not great, but the problem goes way beyond just them.
Frimpong creates absolutely nothing. His decision making is woeful and is caught in possession too often.
I really don’t understand what people see in him
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:08 PM
That’s the fun about this blog all about opinions, at least it didn’t degrade to verbal abuse, which sadly is becoming the norm these days😯 on here.
Oh the old days of CQN congenial discussion, Friday night quiz and then music time to the wee hours.
Then you wake up next morning and find oot you have posted a whole lot of punk music 😂😂😂😂 and cannae remember😵😱
ST TAMS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:17 PM
Our crossing from wide positions is abysmal and we get done down there easily.
Despite the pace we have, there’s never any end product and we seem vulnerable there too.
I’ll get my tin hat on as people won’t like this but Laxalt and Frimpong are similar in that respect. Both quick and all-action but very little end product.
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 9:00 PM
I don’t get the criticism of Laxalt either . Actually I’m beginning to think that every player we sign should be a loan with option to buy . The scouting team obviously can’t be trusted with money , and it would give other people with half a clue a proper chance to assess if a player is worth buying .
*got me thinking again, that’s twice in one day, but I recall when you started a new job you were on probation, might have been 6 weeks and that allowed the company tae pump you if you didnae pan out, in fact when I started my time I was on 6 months probation before I was indentured or as the song says “apprentice tae trade I was bound”.
D66…last I red…MM was on hols spreadng Covid…has he also been banned? I really need to up my game lol
H.H.
ST TAMS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:17 PM
Seriously! He’s a kid with raw talent. Needs some coaching for sure. I bet Brendan Rodgers could polish him into a much better player. Neil Lennon doesn’t do coaching.
Google translate of that Italian article:-
Barkas 5: with his feet he risks too much, like when he gives Hauge a ball but the Rossoneri are unable to finish. And he is also surprised by Calhanoglu on his pole.
Elhamed 5.5: Hauge is in the evening of grace, the full-back cannot contain the fury of the Norwegian: he punctually loses the duel, whether it is offensive or defensive.
Bitton 5.5: a few too many carelessness, leads a rearguard that comes out of San Siro with four goals on the back.
Ajer 6: especially in the second half he takes courage and shows great personality, carrying the ball and recovering several balls.
Laxalt 6: lives a special challenge, against his latest team in Italy. He struggles to keep Castillejo, he is a little better when it comes to attacking and overall he keeps the attention high.
McGregor 5.5: he has an excellent opportunity on his feet, but he kicks too centrally. He does a decent job of filtering in front of the defense.
Brown 6.5: he is the man everywhere of Celtic, he can be found pressing in all areas of the median on the opposite Rossoneri (from 78 ‘Soro sv).
Christie 6: illuminating the through ball for Edouard for the doubling that made Celtic dream, then after the warning disappears from the radar. It is reviewed with a punishment on which Donnarumma is forced to overcome (from 86 ‘Klimala sv).
Rogic 6: right times for pressing on Krunic and to win the ball for 0-1, a few minutes later he goes close to his personal double. He falls at a distance (from 67 ‘Ntcham 5.5: he does not enter the game very well, without being able to leave his mark).
Frimpong 6.5: offers an important contribution to the team, often targeting Hernandez and sending him into trouble.
Edouard 6: excellent agreement with Christie when he sends him in goal for the double: nice touch underneath to overcome Donnarumma
PRESTONPANS BHOYS
The good old days , when the blog was fun and Celtic could defend!-)))
ST TAMS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:17 PM
Frimpong creates absolutely nothing. His decision making is woeful and is caught in possession too often.
I really don’t understand what people see in him
hate to say it but i agree!
I have this much from a reliable football agent of a Celtic mind – Never mind the the transfer window, Southampton already have offers for Forster we couldnt touch even with his outstretched arm on our side. Forget it.
Think about this, and how we have got here
Barkas – allegedly unsettled in Scotland ?? Who has s helping here ??
For me Elhamed a poor right back
Bitton & Ajer, stopped developing as Centre Halfs, and should return to midfield ? Although looks like Ajer will be sold
Laxalt – a loanee at left back
That’s a full back 5 we need
( yes Julienne to come in, but Duffy to go out as well ?)
Midfield
Scott Brown in his last season, Christie, Ntcham & Rogic all want away, if rumours are to be believed ? Plus Elyanousi to return to his club
Bring in Turnbull, still to be compnvinced Soro has any future ?
Still means we need 3 other midfielders
Forwards
Edouard to go, will Griffiths ever get back to playing regularly for us, now 2 years since he played regularly, Klimala needs to go out on loan to develop ( he will nneed t at Celtic with current coaching set up)
So at least 2 new forwards
That’s 10 new players required to stand still
How on earth did we get to this position, and who is to blame ????
Manager or above that level ???
TLT – Hecsaid he was going to self exile if Big Jimmy was Red carded.
I have not seen him post so I presume he is in exile.
MM – If I am wrong come on and give us an update.
D :)
HENRY JOY
We Should have a list of possible keepers with more than FF’s name on it anyway.
NORRIEM on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:29 PM
The buck stops at the top. People might want to point the finger at managers and head of recruitment with some justification but the ones at the top appoint them and continue to employ them.
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:31 PM
Exactly. FF was only ever on loan anyway and we knew what kind of money he was on at Souuthamton. We should’ve had a plan B and plan C in place.
Barkas to me looked like a bit of a panic signing.
GEEBEE1978
I agree. Lots of pace and enthusiasm but no assists.
Big Jimmy – keep checking those emails.
Although I think it might be 2nd class post with how long it’s taking or pager.
D :)
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:25 PM
I remember one Friday night I started a comment with the first sentence of a rebs song, then others joined in.
Lasted about two hours or more likely we were to drunk to continue😂😂😂😂
Laxalt i love his energy and good going forward but i don’t think he is a good defender imo.
Most galling stat
Moravcik67
@Moravcik67_
·
2h
With one game to play, this 20/21 Celtic team currently ranks 570th of 576 when ranked by fewest goals conceded in the EL group stage. Only 6 times has a club conceded more than 17 goals.
If Lille score 3 against in the last game we’ll have matched the record for goals conceded.
But hey we played well …….
Long time lurker etc , etc but watching that catastrophic defending tonight took me back to MO’Ns appointment in….. 2000 i think ; his first signing , I’m sure , was big Joos and was followed up fairly soon after with Bobo . Our defence was shored up in a pre-season and we went on to win the treble in Martin’s first year. We need that sort of defensive mind set now . We could also do with at least one hard ball winner in midfield and that would release our two wing backs to play to their strengths.
HH
Hello again all you young rebels.
DAVID 66 / THE LURKIN TIM
As I explained re- the red card for a good poster who has no contact
with anyone apart from the good people on here was reprehensible.
He also has failing health problems and as we all know he was goaded
to the extreme, and the mods obviously just listened to the whines of
the agitators instead of looking at the whole picture.
However if big Jimmy gets back then I’ll be happy to join this dear
green place again.
Bit better for The Bhoys against Milan, but mega changes needed all
round.
H.H. Mick
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:25 PM
PRESTONPANS BHOYS
The good old days , when the blog was fun and Celtic could defend!-)))
*and after a loss like this we had the comfort of dropping intae the Europa.
JAKE73 on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:44 PM
Long time lurker etc , etc but watching that catastrophic defending tonight took me back to MO’Ns appointment in….. 2000 i think ; his first signing , I’m sure , was big Joos and was followed up fairly soon after with Bobo . Our defence was shored up in a pre-season and we went on to win the treble in Martin’s first year.
*After losing 1-5 at hades with a team that was minus Lambo injured and Stubbies health concern he went out and signed Lenny and Ramon the Treble, as he called him.
TONTINE TIM on 3RD DECEMBER 2020 10:47 PM
We cannae even drop into the league cup😵😱
don’t think the weakened AC needed to get of 2nd gear tonight to put 4 passed us.
I thought frimpong was a bright spark tonight and tracked back and made a nuisance of himself. So he honest have many assists? ok, how many goals or opportunities are created through 2nd, 4rd, 4th phase passes AFTER he gets the team 50yards up the pitch with his pace.
I was delighted to have him in an advanced role.
We need 2-3 players in the side who’s ability is defending. moving Bitton and Ajer into midfield also adds some physicality in front of the defense.
We need to hang on until January – then hope the players we bring in are actually defenders and can hit the ground running.
Our lack of leaders / talkers / shouters at the back for me is a basic basic management mistake