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At the beginning of the transfer window I predicted Adam Idah would not leave Norwich City until late August, if at all.  His transformational loan period at Celtic went a long way towards ensuring we won the league and Scottish Cup, but he remained backup to Kyogo and there is no immediate prospect of that changing, even if he arrives this summer.

Norwich have watched the player’s success at Celtic and have set thier price accordingly.  Forget the £6m being reported this week, City’s asking price is nearly twice that figure.  That’s a lot for someone who will spend much of his time on the Celtic bench.

Celtic paid £9m for Odsonne Edouard, also as a backup striker, six years ago, but that was under Peter Lawwell, who fulfilled his commitment to spend every penny that came in over any business cycle you care to mention.

Odsonne’s profile was different.  A PSG youth, Celtic correctly anticipated his value would appreciate.  Adam is three years older than Odsonne, when the French striker signed his permanent Celtic deal, and Adam’s tenure on the bench at Championship grounds will likely put a ceiling on where his value goes.

Adam crossed a line on Sunday and missed his club’s flight for thier preseason tour in Austria (he travelled later on his own).  This move is normally terminal for your relationship with fans.  The scenario occurs at Celtic more often than is reported, Celtic’s preferred reaction is to decline the move and not report “Not in the right frame of mind to play, boss” incidents, in an attempt to keep control of their options.  Not every muscle strain is actually a muscle strain.

Norwich were unable to do this and Adam is now regarded as an enemy within by the support.  Adam will likely get his move this month and if he comes to Celtic you and I will cheer him on.  Football is a harsh business, we are all participants.

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  1. Chairbhoy on

    BIGBHOY @ 1:13 PM,

     

     

    No one thinks Idah is worth 12 mn

     

     

    It’s a herring rouge…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  2. Dexter P. Bampot on

    CELTIC40ME on 31ST JULY 2024 12:48 PM

     

    DEXTER P. BAMPOT on 31ST JULY 2024 12:41 PM

     

     

    You said 6m was the asking price, you said we should pay it without negotiating it down.

     

     

    Pay the asking price every deal you do and you end up with a lot more money than if you don’t

     

     

    ————-

     

     

    I may not be expressing myself sufficiently.

     

     

    I am not saying pay £6m for Idah because that’s what is asked for, even less suggesting that for EVERY deal we pay the asking price without haggling.

     

     

    I am saying that £6m is a fair price for THIS player in the particular circumstances of the market and his previous performances for us.

     

     

    I am also saying that the financial benefit of the 2 months trying to get him for £4.5m of £5m is outweighed by the opportunity cost of paying £6m a while back and fully preparing the team for the CL.

  3. celtic40me on

    CHAIRBHOY on 31ST JULY 2024 1:05 PM

     

     

    “However if you look at a decision the Celtic Board made twenty years ago why argue the rights and wrongs, we have to go with the decisions that were made”

     

     

    Thats what you dont do, though. You constantly reference 2004, you’ve just talked about it in reference to a comment about the transition from PL’s leadership to the present leadership team from a couple of years ago and thats ongoing.

     

     

     

     

    “All doable without mentioning or worrying about any club in Ibrox”

     

     

     

    PLease explain the relevance go that. It seems like another one of your randomly generated statements.

  4. quadrophenian on

    Re our club’s seeming obsession with Idah – a serviceable young pro – and the associated deal haggling it’s as if he’s the only available forward in the whole of world football.

     

    I get – from the buns Chairman interview – that imposters like Sevco don’t have a Plan B; a contingency for anything that they do.

     

    But surely Brendan and co have identified some other possibilities for our second striker position ?

     

     

    As for Reo rumours; lovely player but surely we’d cash in anywhere near a solid 10m offer!

  5. Chairbhoy on

    DEXTER P. BAMPOT @ 1:23 PM,

     

     

    Think you are spot on…

     

     

    I’ve described it as knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing

     

     

    Hail Hail

  7. vale bhoy on

    If Norwich are asking that then we better have other options being actively pursued.

     

     

    Maybe we are not doing our business in public (I live in hope) and at least one other striker will arrive soon.

  9. Chairbhoy on

    CELTIC40ME @ 1:28 PM,

     

     

    With all due respect

     

     

    I was commenting on BURNLEY78’s post

     

     

    You stuck your nose in

     

     

    Fine, but please read BURNLEY78’s comments then mine, then his and try to get the context.

     

     

    Of course it isn’t going to make sense if you grab random paragraphs out of context

     

     

    To put in in some sort of context….

     

     

    BURNLEY78 was commenting in the Board evolving from PL to the current Board

     

     

    PL became CEO in 2004…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  10. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Brendan on SSN, again saying he would have preferred new guys in for pre-season, despite what the ‘Big Jocks’ on here who know better say, nobody’s came near MOR valuation, Bernardo having medical.

  11. bournesouprecipe on

    It’s not as if we’ve not got more important things to be raging about.

     

     

    Most of the support share Brendan Rodger’s desire for quality and the recognition that the squad balance is weak, and puny for Europe, so we’re in good company as we start again on Sunday. He wanted better quality when the ink was hardly dry on his own contract, and then demonstrated this with his team selections and cup final, finale. He’s shifted, by the bushel and the taxi’s are still running for the ‘sifted’ no wonder there’s parsimony, how bizarre, that years later we’re ‘ talking to a loanee ’ as Greg Taylor who rules the left, runs into his last year.

     

     

    The bare minimum is a given, thats all well eventually get, disappointment as a Celtic supporter, to think that any money never mind all the money makes embellishment and strengthening somehow out of reach for such a big club, The new embarrassingly apparently untouchable wealth is becoming a burden and festers generational Celtic supporter’s genetic mistrust of ‘the board’ .

     

     

    A £200 CL package will be beyond some of the ‘thinking men’ they’re already pricing young supporters out of Europe, so who’ll be there to make the unique atmosphere, for those watching on TV. There’s a squirell? wonder what’s up to with our money, increased demand, year on year when we were skint, it was laugh a minute stuff, with a guy at Ross Hall and one at Bothwell Services it was all we needed, it’s now a lot more serious.

     

     

    Were no laughing anymore CSC

  12. celtic40me on

    DEXTER P. BAMPOT on 31ST JULY 2024 1:23 PM

     

     

    I am not saying pay £6m for Idah because that’s what is asked for, even less suggesting that for EVERY deal we pay the asking price without haggling.

     

     

    Aren’t you? Why would you make an exception for Idah?

     

     

    We dont know what Norwich would have demanded a two months ago, but I dont think paying an extra £1.5m to get him in sooner than 7 weeks before the start of the CL campaign, considering he’s been at Celtic for 6 months already is a very sensible way of doing business.

     

     

    If we take that attitude with someone who wants to come so much he’s downed tools it suggests we’ll do it again and again until we’ve paid over the odds for a load of players.

  13. Big Jimmy on

    From PREVIOUS THREAD..

     

     

    ALMORE on 31ST JULY 2024 9:13 AM

     

    Birthday wishes to the most patient small doll in Glasgow.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Hope you are getting better too, Big Jimmy.

     

    ……………

     

     

    ALMORE, Ive just seen your Post from earlier Today.

     

    Thank you for your kind words.

     

     

    Im NOT any better, and its now 12 weeks Today since I last went out ( MAY 8th).

     

    I am due to see Two Nurses next week ( IF I can make it to the Health Centre ?) and I will ask them IF I should see a GP etc ?

     

     

    I SUSPECT that my recent ” BACK Problem” MAY be related to my long term /ongoing Bowel problem ?

     

    Cheers again ALMORE and HH Mate.

  16. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    If Norwich get anywhere near £12m for Idah I’d be amazed. An “asking price” is one thing…….

     

    Time to move on – can’t have this dragging on forever.

  18. Dexter P. Bampot on

    Celtic40

     

     

    I think I’ve made it pretty clear that what I am saying is that if £6m will get the deal done then we should pay it without further delay. This is because, as I’ve said, I think he is worth £6m.

     

     

    Maybe £6m won’t get it done (I personally think it would) and then it’s a different conversation. But you seem to simply disagree with me that IF £6m would get it over the line we should pay it NOW. You are entitled to that opinion. It seems to be a simple difference of opinion.

     

    HH

  20. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Chairbhoy

     

    Bang on, as always. Nothing holds us back like the old firm.

  21. Kelvinbhoy on

    Bada, you’re right he did say that but it was nuanced too where he spoke about many moving parts etc in a transfer and he mentioned, more than once, the end of August as the checkpoint for judging the strength of squad. Preference is the key word. I, like many hoped to have more in but personally happy to wait to get the right ones rather than buy just to get numbers in. If we get to end of August and we have had a shit window I’ll be the first to criticise but time will tell.

     

     

    As for Idah, we all have to admit we have no clue what Celtic and Norwich value him at but it can’t be that much if discussions, as it appears, are ongoing. Maybe Celtic has shifted more than Norwich, or maybe it’s Norwich who has conceded most up to now. Either way something or someone has to give, like in all transfer deals.

     

     

    Also from what Brendan inferred, Bernardo will be confirmed by close of play today or first thing tomorrow given his use of the word ‘hours’ when asked how close he was to signing.

  22. bournesouprecipe on

    Brazilian trialist from the sixties, was never signed.

     

     

    Great photo 👍

  23. scullybhoy on

    Big Jimmy on 31st July 2024 1:37 pm

     

     

    From PREVIOUS THREAD..

     

     

    ALMORE on 31ST JULY 2024 9:13 AM

     

     

    Birthday wishes to the most patient small doll in Glasgow.

     

     

    Hope you are getting better too, Big Jimmy.

     

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

     

     

    Can I add my good wishes to Big Jimmy.

     

     

    HH

  31. celtic40me on

    Chairbhoy

     

     

    “BURNLEY78 was commenting in the Board evolving from PL to the current Board

     

     

    PL became CEO in 2004…”

     

     

     

    “Evolution in leadership from PL to the current team is good”

     

     

     

    Theres no need to reference 2004. I was pointing out the contradiction in you telling me to move on from 2004 because of it irrelevance when you’re doing exactly the same thing yourself.

     

     

    My point about 2004 was pretty much for your benefit alone as you seem to be very keen on talking about that particular time and Peter Lawwell in particular

     

     

    You seem to be suggesting that given the position we find ourselves in now your solution is to look at how bankers approach strategic decision making. Is that not right? If not who do you think should be in charge of it?

  32. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Kelvinbhoy- thanks for reply, Brendan said he wanted players in early,the moving parts stuff includes McKay and Nicholson’s total inexperience in work they haven’t done before, get an experienced professional in. I wonder if Nicholson would call our transfer activity ‘ world class ‘? As far as the Window closing,it’s just a date to get your business done by.Nightmares of Jo Inge Berget and a few other panic signings a few days before the CLQs…..

     

    To be resumed this time next year

     

    HH

  33. celtic40me on

    DEXTER P. BAMPOT on 31ST JULY 2024 1:43 PM

     

     

    But you are also saying that we should pay £1.5m more than we need to arent you?

     

     

    Why would we only do that for Idah? He’s not that good or our need isnt that great, so why would we not do it for other players in the future?

  34. Chairbhoy on

    GLASSTWOTHIRDSFULL @ 1:49 PM,

     

     

    Yes

     

     

    It’s always interesting when the ITK guys break cover and their loathing for Brendan and their fondness for the OF comes to the fore…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  35. scullybhoy on

    Marco Di Sousa, Ayrton Inacio, Jorge Farah and Fernando Consul

     

     

    There were actually four Brazilians on trial at Celtic, in September 1965. Although only two, Ayrton Inacio and Marco Di Sousa, played in the reserves. The two others, Jorge Farah and Fernando Consul, played in practice games. Although all four only stayed a short time at Celtic, Inacio later went on to a French side and then turned out with Clydebank in August 1967. Inacio finally returned to Portugal where he had settled with his family in February 1968

     

     

    (Stolen from Celtic Wiki)

  36. bournesouprecipe on

    Chairbhoy

     

     

    Splendid. Long before our time of course, but Barrowfield was open to the public and you could wonder in and see the stars close up.

  37. Chairbhoy on

    CELTIC40ME @ 1:55 PM,

     

     

    What’s the matter you.!?

     

     

    I know there is no need to reference 2004

     

     

    I chose to reference 2004 because that’s when PL took over

     

     

    Then put the circumstances of 2004 and twenty years later into some context

     

     

    You are having some problems getting your head around that one but seriously I can’t help you, I’ve little idea where you are coming from…

     

     

    Hail Hail

  38. Kelvinbhoy on

    Bada, I think each of our views/happiness with how the club is being run comes out in our posts. Let’s see what happens over next few weeks and my view might align with you or maybe even vice-versa. Either way we both want the same thing in a Celtic sense, a winning team playing the Celtc way.

  41. Dexter P. Bampot on

    Celtic40

     

     

    Where is the evidence that we would get Idah for £4.5m after further negotiating and that is the amount we would ‘have to pay’?

     

     

    Genuinely, I don’t know what aspect of my opinion (and it is only an opinion) about which you seem to be confused.

     

     

    I am saying that if £6m would get him NOW, then pay it.

     

     

    If you are saying that £4.5m will get him at a later point then I am disagreeing that we should wait for the reasons I have already argued- 1. team progress in the interim and 2. to give a vote of confidence in the player (who I don’t think would be fazed).

     

     

    The other point is that by putting off buying him in hope of saving that type of money, you invite the possibility of other teams- many also under pressure for signings- coming in and buying him.

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