Celtic’s record win, 11-0 over Dundee in 1895, was the era before substitutes. Due to injuries, Dundee were down to 9 men before halftime. The 9-0 win over Aberdeen in 2010 benefited from three penalty kicks – and, as Aberdeen manager Mark McGhee put it after the game, Celtic had the attendance of Henrik Larsson in the stands to inspire them (honestly!).
By a subjective measure, yesterday’s 0-9 win at Tannadice is the most comprehensive victory in our illustrious history. Whether we would have added more, if Steven Fletcher received the red card that should have come his way after a 2nd minute studs-up and to the head challenge on Joe Hart, is open to speculation.
For me, the addition of Liel Abada to the starting line-up made everything click for Celtic. Set aside his hat-trick, that defence-splitting pass to Jota, who squared for Kyogo to start the rout, typified what he brings to proceedings. When Adaba, Jota and Kyogo synchronise like this, it is easy to get carried away.
History will not record that Dundee United competed well for over 30 minutes of this game. Celtic had some shaky moments at the back that would be exposed by better opponents. When Matt O’Riley won possession and the ball broke to Kyogo to score the second, the game was over as a contest. United looked as though they knew another pasting was coming their way and could do little to resist.
Alexandro Bernabei came on for his competitive debut and, playing as a left-sided attacker, did enough to encourage. Ange and his players will spend the coming days contemplating the form they have hit ahead of three important games in three different competitions. We have the League Cup first and cannot get ahead of ourselves.
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and he reverts to type, a question to a question, never can answer anything.
oh well.
An Tearmann on 29th August 2022 1:04 pm
Unique angle
https://twitter.com/celtictv/status/1564204906881368066?s=24&t=XLmf8qBCgVsbOUpopD3D1A
HH
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Fabulous! Great team spirit and what a modest bhoy Kyogo is.
Thanks for posting that.
A wee photo for you SAINT STIVS
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SF should have been red carded.
Straight leg challenge nowhere near the ball.
It was more effective than he was hoping for.
However it was dangerous / caused injury — should have been off.
Cynical percentage stamp knowing we had an ex DU player to replace him.
File under interesting timing / circumstances.
Not quite TFOD1.0 at the 99SCF but close.
I think studs to the head is pretty much a nailed on case of recklessly endangering than opponent. It was a red.
My friends in Celtic,
The Ange journey is a joy.
We play the biggest name in club football, Can we get a result?
Yes we can.. This is realism and the heart saying this.
HH, the journey continues.
SAINT STIVS on 29TH AUGUST 2022 1:24 PM
and he reverts to type, a question to a question,
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Here’s another one.
Do you know what a strawman argument is?
There is no “strawman argument” lets look at the rules again. Take all the emotion out of it, forget its a celtic player, just apply the rules to the single incident, look at the picture, Fletcher should not have swung the boot in.
Did he endanger the safety of his opponent player ? A spiit head and stiches says yes,
Did he play in a dangerous manner ?
It could have been even worse, god forbid.
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SAINT STIVS on 29TH AUGUST 2022 11:09 AM
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it is a split second, but fletcher doesnt need to take the swipe at speed and force, dangerous play all day long , should have been a red card.
SAINT STIVS on 29TH AUGUST 2022 11:21 AM
the “reaction” of the players means he haw,
the referee got it wrong,
SERIOUS FOUL PLAY
A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play.
Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force or endangers the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.
SAINT STIVS on 29TH AUGUST 2022 11:22 AM
PLAYING IN A DANGEROUS MANNER
Playing in a dangerous manner is any action that, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including the player themself) and includes preventing a nearby opponent from playing the ball for fear of injury.
Is there a video clip of the incident?
Parting shot — the need for a complete rebuild of the Main Stand.
If not now then when — as is in 2030 and we will be a laughing stock.
Especially if AP’s growth agenda takes root in the barren wastelands of the CFC boardroom as it has taken root on the park / in the support.
Are we the only club in the world that had a better / more sophisticated Main Stand in 1898 — the fabled “Double Decker” which was a world first in football — than we have in 2022?
A span of 124 years and we have gone back the way — surely something needs to be done?
Obviously our custodians had / have never heard of D-Ream.
SCULLYBHOY on 29TH AUGUST 2022 1:27 PM
A wee photo for you SAINT STIVS
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Its brilliant, I wonder if its the first time of wearing hoops instead of stripes, 1904 would seem about right given who is in the picture.
I wonder if the traditionalist supporters around the pavilion were agog at the committee for changing the shirts and socks.
I wonder if the Gallogate tailor that supplied the kit grumbled a liitle about the changes, him being a celtic member himself.
Paul67 et al
“By a subjective measure….”
I’m not even sure what that means Paul.
Take that back, maybe 1910 team photo
Carl Starfelt was good yesterday even scoring a goal ,but at times he still has the tendency to miss place a pass ,that’s fine in the SPFL but not against teams like Real Madrid etc in the Champions League.
I wonder if anyone in the pubs would have been screaming for a red card if it was Morelos that caused the head injury to Hart ?🤕
I really hope it is CCV and Jenz for the Madrid game, Starfelt does not look up to full fitness. Jenz looks more comfortable and composed when in possession, solid in the air too.
Benzema will be as tough an opponent as any of them have ever faced. He’ll no doubt have a few good chances, but let’s not gift him any.
And please Celtic – try to play it sensibly, at least for the opening quarter. I hate how often we go a goal behind at home in Europe in first 10-15 mins due to sloppy passing or inexplicable positioning.
Go hung ho against Madrid with full backs up the park and we will get hammered on the counter.
This is a team that will play the long ball over the top to beat the press, just as they did against Liverpool.
Man argues that it is not a sending off, while claiming others are laying down “straw man” arguments, then asks can someone give him a video clip.
hahahahahhaha
hahahahhaha
hhahahahahha
now that was funny.
Link to a picture of the 1898 Double Decker stand — look what we could have won.
Half way down the article.
https://www.thecelticwiki.com/celtic-park/celtic-park-history/
1929 Main Stand — very poor effort / Leitch phoning it in.
The external views would have shamed the old Lennox Castle Hospital.
Still more modern than what we have today.
The new 1988 façade — that is another thing.
Looks like it was designed by Barrat Homes.
My only disappointment about yesterday, was that we weren’t playing Livingston.
I would have loved to have seen Martindales face
St Tams – or Kilmarnock or DM’s face.
SAINT STIVS on 29TH AUGUST 2022 1:43 PM
I think it would be better to consider both sides of the argument relating to the incident in the context of watching a video clip of it.
Do you have a problem with that?
Scullybhoy@1.1
Not forgetting a glib and shameless liar in a neighbouring parish.
ERNIE LYNCH on 29TH AUGUST 2022 1:51 PM
SAINT STIVS on 29TH AUGUST 2022 1:43 PM
I think it would be better to consider both sides of the argument relating to the incident in the context of watching a video clip of it.
Do you have a problem with that?
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so you havnt seen the incident so far ? you do know you could search for it yourself aye ?
your arguing about something you havnt seen ?
SAINT STIVS
New signing?
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Who is Peter the Pointer speaking to?
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Any of you Irish bhoys know when this was?
SAINT STIVS on 29TH AUGUST 2022 1:55 PM
‘so you havnt seen the incident so far ?’
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There’s something very, very wrong about your powers of deductive reasoning to make that assertion.
Yes I’ve seen the incident.
Let me ask you a question.
When VAR is used, do the panel decide the incident on their initial impression formed on watching the game live and in real time, or do they deconstruct the incident frame by frame in slow motion?
Here’s a clue to help you get the correct answer, the V in VAR stands for video.
Marspapa 1.41pm
If it was Morelos … straight red
If it was Morelos … MacLean would have booked Hart for a low head and gave an indirect free kick to the Huns in our 6yd box :-)
Main thing Joe Hart wasn’t seriously injured, I still think Fletcher was actually going for the ball
school run beckons …
Roll on Ross County
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Imagine if we had the two King Billy’s.
GFTB @ 2.06
SF — going for the ball?
You are having a laugh — he was nowhere near the ball.
Spot of for JH’s coupon unfortunately.
Strange passage of play from SF.
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I wonder what just happened?
SCULLYBHOY on 29TH AUGUST 2022 2:02 PM
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Who is Peter the Pointer speaking to?
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Chris Morris?
Just siting down to watch a replay of the game on Celtic TV.
PS Dundee United need to recall Paul Hegarty and Davie Narey
My take on Joe hart’s injury and the subsequent yellow card……
I think that, to get a clear view of this, we need to look at Joe’s head as if it was his foot or leg. His head was down in the dirt, as opposed to its normal position, over 6 feet above ground level.
If Joe was standing up when Fletcher booted him in the head, then it would clearly be a red card. Dangerous, reckless and all that stuff….
The ball was loose and available. The striker had every right to try and kick it. However, he missed and kicked Joe. Now, if that had been a defender trying to clear the ball with his feet, Fletcher would have kicked his foot or lower leg and everyone would have been happy with the yellow card. It would have been a normal challenge, a normal foul, and probably a normal red card.
What makes it different is the fact that Joe was down in the dirt, and many will see a kick in the head as an automatic red.
Fletcher was behaving normally, trying to kick a loose ball into the net, missed the ball, fouled the keeper. Yellow card for me.
Now, probably outwith the laws of the game, I think that there is a moral duty on players to use extra caution when a GK is on the deck. We can see this when we compare sliding tackles on outfield players with jumping over the diving body of a goalkeeper. In these situations, most players evade contact with the keeper if the diving keeper is likely to get the ball first.
I don’t think that Fletcher broke the code here.
For what it is worth, everyone in our CSC was surprised that he even got a yellow. It was only when we talked it through, replacing the head with a foot, that most of us concluded that the yellow was appropriate.
Just my 3 cents worth.
Have a good day, be kind, and if you can’t be kind, ignore……
McPhail Bhoy on 29th August 2022 2:20 pm
SCULLYBHOY on 29TH AUGUST 2022 2:02 PM
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Who is Peter the Pointer speaking to?
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Chris Morris?
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Yip Sir!
Well I am logging off now. The non-supporting Celtic supporter is the last straw!
NB It isn’t even a strawman argument anyway.
A strawman is a fallacious argument that distorts an opposing stance in order to make it easier to attack. Essentially, the person using the strawman pretends to attack their opponent’s stance, while in reality they are actually attacking a distorted version of that stance, which their opponent doesn’t necessarily support.
For example, if someone says “I think that we should give better study guides to students”, a person using a strawman might reply by saying “I think that your idea is bad, because we shouldn’t just give out easy A’s to everyone”.
How a strawman works
In general, the use of a strawman consists of the following three stages:
First, person A states their position.
Then, person B presents a distorted version of person A’s original position, while pretending that there’s no difference between the two versions.
Finally, person B attacks the distorted version of person A’s position, and acts as if this invalidates person A’s original argument.
HH to all Celtic supporters. 9-0, 9-0, 9-0!
AT and any others who may be interested.
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On Friday I was lucky enough to attend The Greenock Celtic Supporters Club annual sportsman dinner 2022.
Myself and a work colleague from Johnstone, courtesy guests of IL PRESIDENTE , our very own Greenlion.
This was the first event since 2019, and it was wonderful to be in the company of so many like minded Celtic Supporters. At our table all season ticket holders, One of the ROAD TO LISBON cyclists with tales to tell of that trip. His brother, who I played football with as a kid, another I knew from school, a couple from IBM and another of Joes pals who is great company. Stories and Songs to sing for sure.
The guest of Honour was Peter Grant, being fair a mixed set of opinions at the table of his value to celtic, maybe some a bit unfair, after all he played over 400 games for 3 great manager, and some not so good, he didnt pick himself. And he did win 5 trophies including being a centenary celt.
Gerry McDade is the compare, a great MC actually, similar patter most times, but he delivers it brilliant, a quip for every minute, Greenlion takes an absolute roastin, but it is in good sprits, and well, he does wear them suits with the targets on them.
To the guests –
David Potter,
the celtic historian, I have heard him before, and could listen to him all day, he does have some funny moments, but his style is more a lecture on celtic things, favourite games (65 cup final) worst eras (40s.early 50s, that semi final v st mirren, and a poor nod to peter and the early 90s fiascos), best palyers (Henrik and Booby Murdoch, not jinky just because of incosistency). A funny moment he told before, he likes the edinburgh-glasgow train, because it passes croy, and it gives him a personal moment to stand and remember the might quinn who maybe the greatest celt of all, allthough Davids own father would say that was Jimmy Delaney (god bless our garry btw) or Malky McDonald.
A mention for the celtic graves society and the latest restoration for Mick Dunbars headstone.
So I enjoyed his meander through time.
Bruce Fummey –
Scottish comedian, son of a Ghanian man and a Scottish Mother, styles himself as the Best Afro-Keltic comedian on the circuit. A perthshire rugby player and Saint Johnstone fan, he turns up in Dredds, a blazer and a rangers tie with a poppy on it.
I thought during the others presenting he wasnt liking some of the more celtic themed discussion, particularly anyone straying near the H word or catholic things, turns out he was trying to remember his own act in his head minus most of the sweary words and near knuckle things.
A previous John Gahagan performance is memorable for the club as a benchmark of not what to do when some of the more pious members feel the need to leave the hall during the act.
Anyways the fella Bruce is immensely funny, his act peppered with really personal stuff around being a black kid in school and the racism he encountered grwoing up, and into adult hood, but being the shape and size he is, he wont take no shit from anyone. He got a tremendous ovation, during and after his act, I am glad i seen him.
Peter Grant Q&A.
Gerry asked the usual type of questions , highlights (debut at celtic park, his granparents all in the stand), he talked the family credentials, the legendary Coles bus from Coatbrig, both grandas ran celtic clubs, wife the daughter of another well know supporter, he talked tommy, paul, macca, big roy, he genuinely came across as a celtic supporter who lived the dream.
Taking questions from the floor I got to ask –
“So Peter you played with many celts from down here Provan from Gourock, Archdeacon, Fulton, McCahill and Murdoch from Greenock, but would you agree with me that the best player ever from Inverclyde was Mike Conroy from the Port ?”
That raised a laugh from Mr Potter, who is obviously thinking no, the best from the Port would be John McMaster 213 appearances from 1913 till 1923 (saying that in his forfar accent all sage like and de facto).
At the end of the night Peter got literally hundereds of handshakes and pictures, a really good man, not a celtic great, but as they say a great celt.
And the finale.
Greenlion thanking the guests, with a made up speech , that saw Jerry Sadowich walk out.
Only downside – We left seats at the table for Ernie and Mitch, but they never turned up.
Onwards to the next one,
It was a red all day long, John Thompson anyone, it could have been that bad, Joe was lucky.
It didn’t look like that Fletcher intended to do Joe, but he did.
Had it been anyone else apart from our keeper the player would have been off the park pdq, brother McLean is an out and out bigoted hun cheat, it’s as simple as that
So does anyone know if there is video of the incident?