An article on STV this week brought an old memory to mind. Days before Rangers’ goalkeeper, Chris Woods, was set to break a Scottish shut-out record across all competitions he gave a media interview when he said, “I just hope when we do lose a goal it is not an important one”.
Woods duly broke the record in a Scottish Cup tie against Hamilton Accies but that game, 27 years ago last week, is not remembered for the achievements of Chris Woods, it’s remembered for the fact that Accies left back, Adrian Sproat, found himself in nosebleed territory as he thrashed the only goal of the game into the net. Records count for nothing when you’re knocked out of the cup.
Fraser Forster has demonstrated remarkable concentration in recent games, when he has been called upon to make incredible saves after long periods of inactivity, but there are only so many times he’ll be able to pull off ‘save of the season’ acrobatics. We need to protect him and close down space well away from the Celtic goal.
These records may matter little if they are recalled through an embarrassing defeat but, just consider how often and fondly we refer to the 25 league game winning run in season 2003-04. History is always worth making.
Many thanks for everyone who for getting your seats confirmed for our CQteN St Patrick’s Day Dinner at the Kerrydale Suite on 14 March. As we stand there are a few non-confirmed but from tomorrow we’ll be able to allocate seats to the waiting list. Will let you know if we have space available soon.
The dinner is to raise funds to build a kitchen for Mary’s Meals at the Kholoni Primary School in Mchinji, Malawi, which has 1200 students and no catering facilities. Children often are faced with the choice of working to eat of going to school. With a kitchen in place this dependency will flip, those who go to school and get an education, will also get a meal – often their only reliable meal of the day.
Marys’ Meals perform minor miracles, feeding each child in Malawi for £7 per annum, while employing locals to work in the kitchens (which will be used as a classroom outside of meal times). It will be a remarkable legacy to mark the first 10 years we’ve had out of CQN.
Two new badges will launch at the CQteN dinner to record the decade and raise funds for the Malawi kitchen. The designs have now been approved (see here) and they are about to go into production. If you would like to register interest, email Celticrollercoaster on cqnbadges@gmail.com
If you would like to read the new CQN Magazine, GO HERE to read properly, and for FREE, the graphic below is just a taster.
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JJ,
Lol.
Bergerac….tastes like Nettles…..
Poor attempt. I was working and can’t even blame the drink :)
MWD
HamiltonTim.
The means of having influence is changing and every supporter can avail themselves of it regardless of whichever group they choose to affiliate themselves with or indeed remain independent. We are using it now via CQN.
What is missing is a structure that captures the mood of the whole as opposed to that of the active.
Thus whilst the larger groups with affiliated members can claim to be representative of their grouping, they cannot claim to represent the whole.
This inevitably undermines any argument put forward which either furthers the interest of that group or even if an argument has wider benefit, reduces chances of acceptance because of perceptions held of its source, which seem to carry as much if not more weight than the argument itself.
The Open Meetings are an honest attempt to include groups and individuals, but as a mechanism it still falls short of the idealbbecause those attending will always be vastly outnumbered by those not able to or not bothered to attend.
The CST have for years tried to get this fragmentation addressed via the AGM resolution that has morphed from its original fan on the board genesis to looking at ways of improving communications, but has never managed to shake off its original thrust partly because Celtic always included that particular aspect in their response to the resolution keeping it fresh in folk’s minds.
However the need to address communications has been recognised and the SLO has invited individuals and groups to take part in a supporters forum which has the potential to create structures that reflect the ability of everyone, who is so inclined, to try and influence club policy.
It is not tacit acceptance on Celtic’s part of the CST Resolution as regards communication, but it is a step in the right direction to bring the support together as a cohesive voice.
JJ. Hebcelt . Cheers bhoys
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/stars-of-the-70s-no-9-hugh-sproat-1-2581143
“AS ONE of the sport’s eccentric characters, Hugh Sproat put fun back into football.
A milkman before joining Ayr United from Auchinleck Talbot in 1974, the goalkeeper often dribbled well out of his penalty area, and was known for heading the ball clear when he could easily have caught it.
He usually wore a red jersey, but changed to blue when facing Celtic and green against Rangers, a trend he continued after joining Motherwell in 1979. Legend has it that, just before a match at Parkhead, Celtic manager Jock Stein told him: “Take that jersey off, son – there’s enough loonies out there without you winding them up.”
He once took the field wearing a razor blade as an earring and, despite protesting: “But I’m a punk rocker,” was forced to remove it.
Sproat returned to Somerset Park in 1984. In 22 years, he made 189 appearances for Ayr and 145 for Motherwell. In 2005, Ayr fans voted him the club’s all-time cult hero.”
HT
Cheers I will have a pint of the grouse beaters and then can
we then move on to the Horseshoe for a few
Dress code for CQteN, I was going to wear my CQN thirst and beanie hat!
I like Graham Wallace.
He reminds me of Balin, the dwarf from the Hobbit.
Old and wise and some scrapper.
Thirst!?!?!?=T-shirt
Although if I do arrive with a thirst I’m sure that will be sorted out quickly enough!
Boscobhoy02
I remember Cameron on Real Radio. Always putting the boot in, mocking our paranoia.
He who has the last laff eh?
Karma.
It would appear Phil’s tweets the other day re Sevco Chairmam Wallace were somewhat off the mark and he is now backtracking.
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/escape-to-austerity/#more-4367
I remember Camerhun and Scotlands exgoalie were involved in the Real Radio wind up when both were forced to admit they were putting unsuitable movies on their expenses.
Pair of middens.
Anyone remember that?
Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar
13:50 on
Would they be a blogger per chance?
67heaven … i am neil lennon, supporting wee oscar..!!.. ibrox belongs to the creditors
14:05 on 6 February, 2014
Couldn’t find CQN mag on magcloud…..not very good at this….what am I doing wrong.?
Set up you account info then hit the search bar and type CQN magazine. It is a brilliant way to read the mag.
Big thanks to doc is Neil Lennon
So if the bottom tier sells out,and guys want to get in to the game,they won’t open the top tier?
P67, getting his Hughs + his Adrians mixed up. There’s a joke in there that would give the politically correct a field day…
Ah pit masel in Wallace’s Position.
N
Ah find that Ah don’t like whit is goin oan…or,tae be mair accurate.
Whit is No Goin’ Oan.
Because…
Naebuddy,oot there..is Listenin’ Tae a woid that Ah say.
Ah am getting.. Nae Co-Operation..whitsoevah.
So..
As there is a Complete Break-doon in Communication…between
awe o’ the Parties involved.
Ah wid hiv nae ither Alternative than tae quit.
So Ah wid.
Maks sense ,tae ME.
Kojo
Still,Laughin’
It wisny me!
SOAL
Sounds like a plan. Are you coming out?
Auldheid
Thank you for your very considered response. In light of some of the allegations made would you trust Celtic to give full and accurate accounts of any subsequent meetings?
Genuinely interested in your opinions.
Eddieinkirkmichael
I’m not being evasive but I don’t think it would be appropriate for me to say.
HT
Are you calling me gay?
HT
Now your for it!
SOAL
Not me duckie :-)
Philbhoy
Story of my life mate!!!
This is from June 2007(RTE):
‘Celtic and Rangers are certain to switch from Scotland to the English premier league, according to Celtic director Dermot Desmond. Desmond, Celtic’s major shareholder, told Saturday’s Guardian newspaper: “I don’t know when it will happen, but to me it’s inevitable. Commercially it would work because the audiences would increase…from a football standpoint, would the premier league be better with Celtic and Rangers in it? I’d like to think so.”
The two clubs have won every Scottish championship since 1986, with Celtic winning the league as part of a treble last season. Desmond’s comments follow similar observations by Rangers chairman David Murray 24 hours previously. Murray, though, said the two clubs should still field teams, mostly made up of under-21 players, in the Scottish premier league.
“If other clubs are failing to grow at the same rate as Rangers and Celtic and feel they would be better without us then we would have to look at the merits of joining the Premiership,” Murray told the Rangers official website. Two weeks ago an English premier league spokesman denied reports that Celtic would join the competition.’
Clearly a lot has changed since then but…
HH
Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar
15:17 on
No probs mate.
Couldn’t make meeting last night, doing a rather boring job at the moment in North of England, long shifts and a lot of sitting about waiting on materials etc, hence my more active participation in some of the debates lately.
Got 2 tickets for satureday’s game and still don’t know if I can make it yet, the grandson is looking forward to it, he was at the last Aberdeen game and helped out with the Dam collection.
I thought we got out of jail that day and will need to be above average on sat to get a result.
How apt :))))))))))
He said Mr Ahmad “might have been forgiven for thinking rigor mortis had set into the defender’s case”.
But Alan Summers QC, for Rangers countered that he was not aware of any rigor mortis on his part.
http://www.clyde1.com/news/local/green-may-give-evidence-as-imran-seeks-rangers-payout/#.UvOnVqoPB70.twitter
Auldheid, I take your point (previous thread) that the Board’s position re OB Bill is subjective.
You rightly point out that even though FoCUS is the Board’s creation and as FoCUS was almost a prerequisite for new football related crimes (OB Act) it was not impossible or contradictory for Celtic to back one and oppose the other.
Of course Celtic’s recorded JAG meetings, wher without demur, the OB Bill was discussed before Celtic made a half-hearted opposition to the Bill still do not prove they were backing the Bill.
But when there are no minutes or notes for these meetings where radical new laws were being discussed do you not begin to get a wee bit concerned that there is something to hide?
This was not a council sub committee considering the dispersal of grants (though even these have transcripts showing discussions, votes, proposers, seconders etc) this was a water shed moment in Scots Law!
Do you honestly believe our Board was for FoCUS and against the Bill as they now say?
In fact when they did their token opposition submission in August they said they were only told about OB Bill at a late stage when in fact they knew for months and had discussed at 2 JAG meetings.
This is not something that can be judged on these events and one has to look at the Board’s reaction to the abuses of power the OB Act has brought. Are they condemning it? Saying we told you so? Or are they up to their neck in it in trying to sort out our own supporters on the back of the police excesses the Act has brought?
Ohhhhh and meant to say
Adrian Sproat 27yrs ago :((
where did the time go csc
Eddieinkirkmichael
Sadly, I missed the Aberdeen game that you’re referring to as a result of having to help with the counting of the money which was raised.
I think that Saturday is going to be a real challenge for us. Aberdeen are on the up, confidence will be high and in attack they have the potential to create our defence problems. McGinn’s movement and pace will draw our centre backs into the flanks and it’s essential that Izzy and Fisher, if he plays in the right back slot, provide cover to ensure that at least one of our centre halfs remains in the middle.
I’m really looking forward to it.
63 years since we KO’d the Dons at home…..
Scottish Cup Record v Aberdeen
21.03.1908 SF AWAY 1-0 McMenemy 20,000 * Celtic’s first win over Aberdeen in the Scottish Cup
19.02.1910 QF HOME 2-1 McMenemy, Quinn 25,000
11.03.1911 SF HOME 1-0 Quinn 48,000
24.02.1912 QF AWAY 2-2 Quinn, McAtee 25,000 * first drawn Scottish Cup tie
09.03.1912 QFR HOME 2-0 Travers 2 31,000 * first Scottish Cup replay
20.03.1926 SF TYNECASTLE 2-1 McInally, McGrory 24,000
28.02.1931 QF HOME 4-0 R Thomson 3, McGrory 64,699 * Celtic’s joint- record margin of victory over Aberdeen in a Scottish Cup tie
09.03.1935 QF AWAY 1-3 McGrory 40,105 * Celtic’s joint-record defeat to Aberdeen in the Scottish Cup
24.04.1937 FINAL HAMPDEN 2-1 Crum, Buchan 146,433 or 147,365 * Celtic’s first Scottish Cup Final victory over Aberdeen in front of a record attendance for a club match in Europe
25.02.1950 QF HOME 0-1 65,112 * Celtic’s first home defeat to Aberdeen in the Scottish Cup
10.03.1951 QF HOME 3-0 McPhail 2, Tully 75,000
24.04.1954 FINAL HAMPDEN 2-1, OG, Fallon 129,926
29.04.1967 FINAL HAMPDEN 2-0 Wallace 2 126,102
11.04.1970 FINAL HAMPDEN 1-3 Lennox 108,434 * Celtic’s joint-record defeat to Aberdeen in a Scottish Cup tie
17.03.1973 QF HOME 0-0 40,000 * Jimmy Johnstone was ordered off after 60 minutes
21.03.1973 QFR AWAY 1-0 McNeill 33,465
10.03.1979 QF AWAY 1-1 Doyle 24,000
14.03.1979 QFR HOME 1-2 Lennox 37,000
13.02.1982 AWAY 0-1 24,000
16.04.1983 SF HAMPDEN 0-1 51,152
19.05.1984 FINAL HAMPDEN 1-2 AET P McStay 58,900 * Roy Aitken was ordered off in the 38th minute, the first player to be dismissed in a Final since 1929
01.02.1987 AWAY 2-2 McInally, McClair (pen) 23,000
04.02.1987 HOME R 0-0 AET 55,405
09.02.1987 DENS PARK R2 1-0 McClair 21,255
12.05.1990 FINAL HAMPDEN 0-0 AET Celtic lost 8-9 on pens 60,493
25.02.2002 QF AWAY 2-0 Hartson, Petrov 18,000 * Hartson was ordered off in the 85th minute and Douglas saved a penalty in added time
09.03.2008 QF AWAY 1-1 Vennegoor of Hesselink 10,909
18.03.2008 QFR HOME 0-1 33,506
17.04.2011 SF HAMPDEN W 4-0 Mulgrew (49), Ledley (57), Commons (63 pen), Maloney (84) Celtic equal their record Scottish Cup margin of victory over Aberdeen
Complete : P 29 W 14 D 7 L 8 F 39 (1.34) A 24 (0.83)
Win Rate : 48.3% Draw Rate : 24.1% Loss Rate : 27.6%
Semis : P 5 W 4 D 0 L 1 F 4 (1) A 2 (0.5)
Win Rate : 80 % Draw Rate: 0% Loss Rate : 20 %
WiseGuru
Thanks for that
Arthur –
Welcome, Mat(e)
HamiltonTim
You get trust the same way that you eat an elephant, a bit at a time.
The lack of trust is not one sided and I would look at areas where reasons not to trust arose and what caused it.
I would try and develop a communication strategy everyone accepted the need for that covered things like:
I would for example not start from the position that I was being told lies but was hearing the truth as the other person saw it but question why they saw it as they did.
I would take exception to be being called a liar and would find it difficult to trust anyone who called me such, especially if I was sure my truth was right at the time so would not use the term.
I would get agreement on a common understanding of what dialogue means
I would also get agreement on what sort of issues were for sharing and the timing of that sharing. I think we have to recognise Celtic are a business and could be harmed as such if everything was put out there as it developed.
More than anything we need to agree what the ultimate goal of Celtic is.
For me that is to run a successful not for profit football team that is self sustaining and without which no other lesser goals, be the charitable, social or political would be possible.
Maybe with an agreed goal based on logic rather than emotion, everyone can start working towards it as opposed to ploughing their own road in directions that could undermine the main goal.
I think addressing issues like this would go a long way to restoring trust, but I’m a lot less certain any of the parties would welcome giving up anything to pull together but would be happy to be proved wrong.
I was very encouraged by Eddie’s reponse last night especially given his experience of how matters of communication were dealt with in days of yore.
I think we have to accept first of all that trust is lacking then find ways of building it the only way it can be -together.
See ally playing to the gallery once again, if I could have bet on that I would have haha :-) HH
For info:
Eddie goes under the Tweet name Eddie Toner and has plenty of experience dealing with Celtic as a supporter representative.
I am not sure if he holds any representative position at the moment or is free lance so to speak.
hun skelper
15:53 on
6 February, 2014
See ally playing to the gallery once again, if I could have bet on that I would have haha :-) HH
You just beat me to it. Hopefully someone will ask him to explain his comments.lol
moonbeams wd. kano 2000 \o/ supporting neil lennon 99.9%. champions. c’mon wee oscar.
14:06 on 6 February, 2014
Having been married for 42 years, I can concur with your assertion….hahahahahahaha
winningemmell
I was at the 3rd game in 1987.
The weather was horrific on the way home. We got home well after midnight. My mum wasn’t best pleased. We couldn’t see a thing driving home because of the snow. I was only 8 or 9 and was terrified when my dad just said we will drive in the middle of the road because I can’t see anything. Can you see?
It was then that I realised my old man would do anything to watch his beloved Hoops.
LB
celticlegends
15:55 on 6 February, 2014
Every time ally does it a wee song comes into my head “under pressure” don’t know why hehe :-) HH