Adversarial statements, what to do with Anthony?

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Yesterday’s Scottish Cup final was head and shoulders above the insipid FA Cup final at Wembley. Newco scored two excellent goals, including one from our ex-play, Kenny Miller. But it was our current, on-loan, player, Anthony Stokes who decided the encounter.

What should we do with Anthony? His attitude yesterday was magnificent. He decided he was leaving Hampden with a winners medal, and he had the skill, strength and capacity to ensure no one could stop him.

For the first goal he collected on the wing, made a beeline for goal before slotting the ball into the far corner, although he was assisted by the most generous defending since Jersey in June 1940. [Can you believe two defenders stood off him?] Scoring with a header from a corner when your team is a goal down with 10 minutes remaining takes character and determination.

Brendan Rodgers would have been impressed, but it remains to be seen if that attitude can be tapped into day-in, day-out at Lennoxtown.

I watched Motherwell fans invade the Fir Park pitch the Premiership Play-off final last year. On that occasion their actions went beyond mere celebrations, fans were deep into opposition territory, taunting Newco fans behind the goal. To their credit, Newco fans took it on the chin and left the stadium without retaliating.

I can’t imagine what possesses fans of a losing team to invade a field already populated by thousands of celebrating fans. Whatever it is, it’s primitive and unlikely to be a considered reaction. As a result, Newco will be dragged into a disciplinary situation which would otherwise only have effected Hibernian.

What’s worse, the one perennial get out of jail card football clubs often use when fans let them down: “We always criticise and warn fans about this sort of thing”, was fatally undermined by a hasty press release in the minutes after the final whistle.

While every Hibernian person interviewed acknowledged the role of their fans and need for improvement, Newco issued an adversarial statement.  Compliant friends in the media were urged to drop the role of their fans on the field.  Adversarial statements create adversaries, football administrators know this.  Getting strategy wrong isn’t worth a few hours PR.

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  1. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Jimccormick

     

     

    Enjoy your grub and hopefully the Spanish cup final is a game to enjoy, extra time in England, Italy & Germany so put the kettle on for penalties

  2. Gerryfaethebrig on

    Fred C

     

     

    After yesterday I think they should print some “greating cards”

  3. johann murdoch on

    I know CQN is the go to place for help among Celtic fans

     

    My uncle Mark has gone missing ..last seen in Mount Florida area of Glasgow yesterday ..distinctive by his special ” hat” ..any help would be very grateful

     

     

    Respectfully yours Jm

  4. An Teach Solais on

    The Scottish President of the Simian Defence League has asked that I request all CQNers to desist from using the phrase “Hun Monkeys”.

     

    Monkeys are much more intelligent and definitely much, much more handsome.

     

    Thank you for your cooperation and Hail, Hail.

  5. Gerryfaethebrig on

    An Teach Solais

     

     

    Are you quite happy with our new manager ?

     

     

    Hope you enjoyed the green & white celebrations at Hampden, pity it wasn’t the big green n white team but hey ho am still a very happy clapper this weekend

  6. Seems this Proudlock is a wind up.

     

    No details or appearances of him in any Newcastle team.

  7. HEBCELT on 22ND MAY 2016 6:41 PM

     

    Jeez Johann you had me for a second there I almost fell for that!! H H Hebcelt

     

     

    Heb you’re an eejit….I was the same :O(

  8. leftclicktic on

    New hun statement on sky, a small number of newco fans on park after severe provocation.

     

    Their statement is breathtaking and has a go at everybody

  9. LEFTCLICKTIC on 22ND MAY 2016 6:51 PM

     

    New hun statement on sky, a small number of newco fans on park after severe provocation.

     

     

    Their statement is breathtaking and has a go at everybody

     

     

    It’s the Kafflick schools. THEY can’t count beyond fingers and toes.

  10. The commentary of the England v Turkey by Tyldesley and Hoddle has reminded me of why I hope they exit the Euros at the earliest possible moment!! That same sense of entitlement as Sevconians.

     

     

    HH

  11. England games looks like a hun game.

     

    Biased officials and crap defending.

     

    Linesman who misses blatant offside for Englands first conjures up imaginary one to rule out stonewall penalty.

     

    Defender on line and goalie comical for Englands second.

  12. An Teach Solais on

    GERRYFRAETHEBRIG

     

     

    I am extremely happy that the green team won. If it couldn’t be us, there’s no one deserves it more than they. 104 years ago I was playing on black ash pitches. Seriously, it was a pity that Hibernian were taken oer by the maons in the form of H. Swan Esq whose first act was to have the harp of Brian Boru sandblasted off the wall of Hibs stadium. This he follow when as President of SFA he had Celtic Park closed for a month and demanded that Celtic remove the Irish flag which had been donated by Eamon de Valera. Old Bob Kelly, as you will know, called the bigot out.

     

    Yes, count me in the happy clappers as in our midst oday will be the town/s and city/ies across Europe saved from the ravagin hordes. I use the singular as I would expect them to be eliminated at the first go. Elated at the result. HH

  13. The Green Man says SACK THE Board on

    Pleasant Sunday, sun shining, and hour upon hour of wallowing in their pain and outrage:)

     

    Tears of laughter as the lying, cheating bigots get a massive skelp from the UFH.

     

    Sevco…battered and beaten,…Justice.

     

    Ha Ha Ha….Love it.

     

    Hell and Damnation awaits.

     

    Lying, cheating bigots your mob took a hell of a beating.

     

    Magic:)

     

     

    HH

  14. Lefty

     

    Yip, it’s breathtaking :-)

     

    Rangers finds it incomprehensible that no one, either from within the Scottish FA or Hibernian Football Club, has condemned Hibernian’s supporters following the violent scenes at the end of yesterday’s Scottish Cup final when Rangers players and members of our backroom staff were physically and verbally assaulted. We have not even had the courtesy of any contact whatsoever from Hibernian to ask after the wellbeing of those who were attacked by their club’s supporters.

     

    There must be a full independent investigation into the shameful scenes at Hampden. Rangers is also at a complete loss to understand why certain individuals have hastily attempted to gloss over the appalling events which unfolded at the end of Saturday’s final.

     

    No matter how many times Hibernian’s chairman and Scottish FA vice-chairman, Rod Petrie, and certain other biased commentators wish to play down Saturday’s mayhem and violence, the truth must not be distorted. What unfolded on Saturday cannot and must not be put down to exuberance. That is a complete insult to Rangers, our supporters, and those individuals who were intimidated and attacked.

     

    It was clear to most of those who watched in horror that the Scottish FA’s security procedures failed when Hibernian’s fans went over the top in their thousands. It is to be hoped that all of Scottish football will share Rangers’ disgust and any attempts to attach blame to our supporters for the disgraceful and violent behaviour, which led to our players and fans fearing for their safety, will not be accepted or tolerated by this Club.

     

    We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation and in order to protect our players and officials who were being visibly attacked in front of them. Any club’s supporters would have done the same. This distressing and deeply disturbing episode would never have happened had Hibs fans behaved properly but as they swarmed across the pitch it became immediately obvious that the security procedures were inadequate and had failed.

     

    These fans were allowed to rush, unchecked, towards Rangers supporters at the opposite end of the stadium – all the while goading and threatening them. This makes it preposterous to suggest Rangers fans were somehow to blame as some commentators appear anxious to do. This thuggish behaviour must be investigated and as many culprits as possible brought to book and formally charged. This is the second time in a year that Rangers fans have had to endure attacks by another club’s supporters.

     

    It must also be said that it was not at all helpful to see leading members of the Scottish Government, including the First Minister whose parish is Govan, passing comment on social media without any attempt to condemn the behaviour of Hibernian’s fans. These failures are unbecoming of our elected representatives.

     

    Certain media outlets have also attempted to distort reality. In the case of the BBC this is, of course, not news. BBC employees, in particular Stuart Cosgrove, believe Rod Petrie’s comments to be ‘balanced’ and others speak of a ‘minority’ of Hibernian supporters. Another, Tom English, who was not even at the match, would prefer the authorities to focus on Rangers fans’ reaction. We will not endure this insult.

     

    So, let everyone be clear on one thing – Rangers demands that players, staff and fans be protected from the violence and hatred of supporters of other clubs. Rangers fully expects the Scottish FA and Police Scotland to take action to provide our people with a safe environment. When players are unable to accept medals at the end of a final because of fears for their safety and our supporters are alarmed and extremely concerned for the women and children among them, then surely every step must be taken to ensure that this is never repeated.

  15. LEFTCLICKTIC on 22ND MAY 2016 6:51 PM

     

     

    It’s on their official site.

     

     

    Reads like Hitler ranting in his bunker as its bombarded by Soviet shelling.

     

     

    I’m not sure if it’s intended to intimidate those not towing the party line or is just pandering to their scum support.

     

     

    Probably a bit of both.

     

     

    Maybe now would be the appropriate time for Celtic to make it clear that they regard them as a new club.

  16. I don’t like Kilmarnock…never have.

     

     

    But I do think Lee Clark has got something about him.

     

     

    Well, when did Sevco or Hibs ever pump Falkirk?

  17. Glass of chilled manzanilla in hand, awaiting a football feast from Madrid. Checking out this England v Turkey game, two poor teams have a practise match, why is it live on council telly? I thought the Copa del Rey final was on at half six, I now know it’s half eight. Eedjit!

     

     

    That Orc statement has just appeared on Twitter, I assume it is a wind up? Surely Traynor would not let that bag of shite into the public domain.

  18. I don’t usually watch the Egg Chasing game but I just watched Scotland’s 7’s team just win the big final – their first ever in 19 years of trying. They beat S. Africa by coming from 10 points behind with just over a minute left.

     

     

    Stunning stuff- even if you don’t get the game.

     

     

    It’s been a weekend for upsets.

  19. Gerryfaethebrig on

    An Teach Solais

     

     

    Everyday a school day on here for me

     

    :-)

     

     

    Tom

     

     

    I would have Gary Hooper back in a minute if he fancies displacing Leigh, Benteke or Zlatan or we could just play them all …. Would maybe see if Jason Cummings fancied a wee trip west

  20. There used to be the occasional rumour that Jabba was a closet Tim.

     

     

    I always thought it was rubbish, but I’m now beginning to wonder if maybe he is.

     

     

    If you wanted to release a statement that would hold them up for scorn and ridicule you couldn’t do a better job than that.

  21. leftclicktic on

    TET

     

    Jabba and his level5 mob, only regret they cant drag Celtic into it. But give them time.

     

     

    Memo to jabba

     

    What about newclubs fans sectarian singing,flares and pitch invasion.

  22. An Teach Solais on

    The Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda at Blythswood Square has spoken so kindly observe the script or else.

     

    HH

  23. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    If they have the ability to claim victim hood over Manchester and all other foreign campaigns, then Saturday’s School Sports Day is a gimmie.

     

     

    When they look into a mirror, they see no reflection, hence their total lack of self awareness……and the Grace of God.

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