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AIK, Malmo, Elfsborg, Dunfermline Backlash

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AIK came through a tense final few moments in a 1-1 draw with Moldovans Sheriff in Stockholm last night to face Celtic in the Europa League playoff round, the first leg is in Glasgow on Thursday.

AIK were bottom seed in the Champions League first qualifying round, where they overcame Ararat-Armenia 4-3 on aggregate, but were bottom of the unseeded pack for the second round, which they lost 4-3 to Maribor.  Maribor were beaten home and away by Rosenborg in the last round.

Last season AIK eliminated Shamrock Rovers from the Europa League qualifiers before losing home and away to Danes, Nordsjaelland.

Neil Lennon twice faced Swedish opposition in Champions League qualifiers in his first term at Celtic.  Two comfortable 2-0 wins over Helsingborg in 2012 were followed by a more testing examination by Mo Bangura-inspired Elfsborg a year later, which resulted in a 1-0 aggregate win for Celtic.

Ronny Deila needed to overcome Malmo to reach the Champions League group stage in 2015 but despite racing into an early 2-0 lead, the first leg at Celtic Park was turned on its head when Malmo scored an added-time goal to make it 3-2. Jo Inge Berget, who Ronny had on loan months earlier, scored both Malmo goals. The Swedes won 2-0 a week later to knock Celtic out.

Although AIK are 19 games into their domestic league campaign, there should be a negligible gap in fitness by the time we face them on Thursday.  There can be no excuses.

You and I were there in the dark summer of 2010, when Utrecht and Braga were the last teams to deny Celtic group stage football, and a year later, when Sion came within a CAS ruling of doing the same.  It took Neil time to get it right, but a year later he earned 10 points in a tough Champions League group.

Before AIK, we have the small matter of a League Cup to defend against Dunfermline at Celtic Park tomorrow.  Celtic have won a record 27 consecutive domestic cup games.  Avoid defeat tomorrow and we set an unbeaten record.  Let’s hope Dunfermline feel a backlash.

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  1. MIKE IN TORONTO @ 1:22 PM

     

     

    https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2018/04/06/authoritarian-voters-really-want/ideas/essay/

     

     

     

    “In 2016, at our request, the American National Election Studies (ANES) included two statements expressing aggressively authoritarian attitudes that respondents were asked to either agree or disagree with. These strongly worded statements, which were pioneered a generation ago by psychologist Bob Altemeyer of the University of Manitoba, evoked equally strong responses

     

     

     

    The first statement was unambiguous: “Our country will be great if we honor the ways of our forefathers, do what the authorities tell us to do, and get rid of the ‘rotten apples’ who are ruining everything.” The second test statement was similar: “What our country really needs is a strong, determined leader who will crush evil and take us back to our true path.”

     

     

     

    Our analysis of the ANES data shows that voters who pulled the lever for Donald Trump in 2016 loved these statements. Only a few other ANES items divided Trump voters from Clinton voters as significantly and reliably—mainly, statements expressing resentment towards women, minorities, immigrants, and Muslims. And population variables (age, gender, education, marital status, and income) proved comparatively insignificant. Voters who wanted domineering leaders to crush evil and get rid of rotten apples supported Trump at every age and stage, at every level of education and income. These voters wanted to win the culture wars, and their “submissiveness,” we think, is better understood as fealty to a culture warlord.”

     

     

     

    Hopefully, this weekend, the realCeltic fans will get behind the team with a few chants of, “Make Celtic Great Again”, “ lock someone up …”. … “time for you malcontents to go home”. (Hey, if we are going to act like them, might as well save some time and borrow their songs ….

     

     

     

    Now that I have managed to blow into my PC to get started, I can respond to this fascinating post and your follow ups that continued the attribution of Trumpets tendencies to the happyclapping fraternity on CQN.

     

     

    I found it fascinating because for the first 3 paragraphs, I thought that you were seeing alight about the tendency to seek easy Trumpist solutions of blame a minority whilst a billionaire leads the rebellion against an elite.

     

     

    Then I read the 4th paragraph and laughed.

     

     

    All those desires that Trump inhabits, for chaos and upheaval, for easy solutions to complex questions, for bombast and thin-skinned reaction, and for portraying others as both “thick” and “elite” in contrast to themselves, as he seeks to take control of the pitchfork and torches-minded mob to seize control of a Treasury that he can loot- all of that you attribute to the happy clapping mob who are less obsessed with balance sheets than the mineshafters.

     

     

    The desire for the Strong man to sort their problems and do the deeds for them is the archetype of the Trump supporter. They want a strong man (manager) who will argue with and belittle the opposition. Who will exercise dictatorial control over the football and not let the team (Board and Scouts) have a say. How you managed to see that tendency in those who want our club to thrive and think Celtic is already great and does not need to be “made great again” is beyond me. How you managed to overlook your own side’s desire for Trumpist solutions- just spend the money – we all know better than the pointy-headed experts what is needed- is just plain weird.

     

     

    Honestly, I was familiar with the Altemeyer research already. I never thought in a million years I would see it twisted and bent backwards to try to fit it as an argument against the Celtic faithful.

     

     

    I am used to lawyers attempting Devil’s advocate discourses but, unless your reading of Derrida led to the mistaken conclusion that words have no intrinsic meaning, then you have misjudged your powers of rhetoric this time.

     

     

    or was it an elaborate joke?- I missed the smiley

  2. TOSB

     

     

    Sadly, Tuesday was so dire on so many levels, that there’s an abundance of blame and responsibility. Plenty to go around!

     

     

    The captain I like so well. The manager whose tactical performance was inept (and whose inability to rectify his errors or admit them are still more worrying). And a senior management structure which can amass nearly £1M for every Celtic supporter in attendance, but consistently fails to recruit who, what and when we need on the pitch.

     

     

    An all you eat shite buffet.

     

     

    HH jg

  3. Corky- no apology required my friend, ive been all over the place since Tuesday as well,i was in the minorityand happy when Neil got the job,but the game and what he said today, i have my doubts HH

  4. TBB

     

     

    On Bolingoli.

     

     

    Based on his previous erratic form I reckon playing him would have made his team mates more than nervous.

     

     

    He was substituted in an earlier round for Johnston who turned the game.

     

     

    NL owed it to the other players not to play Bolingoli but why he didnt use Hayes is a puzzle, but the core cause is we failed to recruit a competent LB in spite of having more than enough time to do so, leaving NL with a decision to make that should not have been necessary.

  5. Wrong selection which contributed to first goal.

     

     

    Other than that,had the Goalie done his job and Broonie not made a bad decision,and defenders not forwards, been the subs,we were through.

     

     

    Not any happier but some of the emotional stuff flying about is nonsense.

  6. I’ll say this again.

     

     

    When we played Rosenberg Meling played well. Not brilliant, but decent performances.

     

     

    However, the Rosenberg fans claimed that those games against us were the only times he had played well all season.

     

     

    Not for me.

  7. Meling is a mistake, Boli & Hayes are better than him. That’s why he is still with Rosenberg.

     

     

    This is becoming farcical now.

  8. JAMESGANG on 16TH AUGUST 2019 6:43 PM

     

    TOSB

     

     

     

    Sadly, Tuesday was so dire on so many levels, that there’s an abundance of blame and responsibility. Plenty to go around!

     

     

     

    The captain I like so well. The manager whose tactical performance was inept (and whose inability to rectify his errors or admit them are still more worrying). And a senior management structure which can amass nearly £1M for every Celtic supporter in attendance, but consistently fails to recruit who, what and when we need on the pitch.

     

     

     

    An all you eat shite buffet.

     

     

     

    HH jg

     

    ………………………..

     

    You’ve summed it up so well. So many of our supporters are able to view Tuesday night’s game and the recruitment policy of the club with a critical eye and make suggestions as how these should have/should be addressed but no one in authority with the power to do anything is prepared to address the issues. I honestly can see a repeat of the STB campaign of 1993/94 if the situation continues.

  9. Vale Bhoy

     

     

    There was a time when the club surprised us by unveiling players we had never heard of and had not been trailed in the press.

     

     

    Now, all we are hearing is about player names that came from the blogs. Are we replacing an alleged PL scouting system with an X factor/Strictly approach where the fans vote for their favourite players and then we try to sign him?

     

     

    Why did we ask for Melling and not Andy Roberrtson? :-)

  10. The Board of 1994 was eminently sackable because we were near bankrupt and in the midst of a title and trophy slump.

     

     

    I have yet to hear a realistic approach to replacing the capitalist system that underpins Celtic plc and owns the club, unless we are proposing going into the wilderness for 10 years and work our way back, if we can, as a fan-owned club.

     

     

    Maybe Trump will buy us? :-)

  11. McGregorgate has been raging like a prairie fire all week through the Celtic support with Neil lennon taking a lambasting from us all just proving mistakes can be made by even the best of us. I think it’s now time to give Lenny some slack and just remember all the good things he has achieved since being given the hot seat after BR’s sudden departure mid-season.

     

     

    His record has been faultless delivering the league and Cup completing another treble and being unbeaten so far in the new season apart from the huge disappointment we all felt after Tuesday night. We would have gone straight into the group stage of Europa with a victory but Champions League would still have to be achieved with a difficult match against Prague.

     

     

    For me European football up to Christmas is essential and is agreat platform for the club to attract new players. European nights at Celtic park are a huge bonus for the fans. Let’s begin with a win tomorrow and another against the Swedes on Wednesday and banish those Mcgregorgate blues.

  12. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    MIKE IN TORONTO on 16TH AUGUST 2019 1:22 PM

     

     

    When you see the opinion of an authority naming itself ” Zocalo “, you don`t really need to read on .

     

    You know what`s coming.

     

    Zocalo being the Mexican word for a public square.

     

     

    The political influence of Mexicans in the U.S. is significant and growing ,as are their numbers.

     

     

    Do you welcome that ?

     

     

    Hard to avoid the impression that Mexico is attempting to achieve in stealth , the return of California , Tejas and Floreeda by people power.

     

     

    Trump stands in their way.

     

    A dios gracias.

  13. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Presumably we didn’t deserve to beat Barcelona in 2012 because they had more possession and shots.

     

    And presumably McGregor will continue at left back because that wasn’t the issue on Tuesday.

  14. Jamesgang…you’re pants would be dry…’cause I’ve got it on good authority that you wear boxers ;-))

     

     

    H.H.

  15. Lurkin

     

     

    You terrify me!

     

    I bet it was ACGR who telt ye!

     

     

    😉🤷🏼‍♂️😂

     

     

    HH jg

  16. Jamesgang,

     

     

    This should set you’re mind at ease….

     

     

    StalkersRusCSC

     

     

    H.H.

  17. SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX

     

     

    OK.

     

     

    Why would the Rosenberg fans lie?

     

     

    You and I know that Meling is not the issue.

     

     

    You have your opinion on him and I have mine.

     

     

    Please don’t get me started on our scouting. Who scouted all those duds we can’t get rid of?

     

     

    The real issue that we never prepared for the CL Qualifiers (or our domestic season) by recruiting the necessary replacements we needed in defence.

     

     

    For Lennon to play Calmac at left back and then not accept responsibility for Tuesday’s catastrophe beggars belief.

     

     

    We all knew that Calmac should never have been taken out of our midfield (therefore weakened) and put at left back (thereby leaving the defence exposed).

     

     

    Did Lennon not know what had happened on the two previous occasions when Calmac played at left back? He should have. Did Kennedy not tell him?

     

     

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

     

     

    We didn’t get a different result and I was not surprised. Were you?

  18. i'vehadtochangemymind on

    Don’t buy ole irish bassa shirt kissers

     

    Don’t buy graveson

     

    Don’t buy stars which’ll penure us (made up verb?)

     

    Don’t buy poor footballers

     

    Buy players now which will make the team good

     

    Now

     

    please

  19. Ps..the only thing that should terrify you (us) is if Lenny plays Calmac at LB again ;-))

     

     

    H.H.

  20. Mike in Toronto on

    SFTB

     

     

    When you suggest that my “reading of Derrida led to the mistaken conclusion that words have no intrinsic meaning”, are you suggesting that

     

     

    (i) I read Derrida wrong, and that he did not say that, or

     

    (ii) Derrida did say that, but he was not correct.

     

     

    Derrida does say that words have no intrinsic meaning. For Derrida, an important concept (in addition to alterity) is differance… temporal and spatial displacement of meaning. I understood him to say that. He and I are both correct, and neither are mistaken.

     

     

    But, as I was earlier lamenting that people scroll by my posts, I will thank you for taking the time to (mis)read it…. now that’s a little Derrida humor for you.

  21. All this talk of resting players tomorrow has got to be a bad joke…we’re only 8 games in ffs…Lenny needs to play the strongest squad tomorrow with a view to continuity for Thursday

     

     

    H.H.

  22. FAVOURITE UNCLE on

    ROCK TREE BHOY on 15TH AUGUST 2019 5:20 PM

     

     

    Did Lennon not know what had happened on the two previous occasions when Calmac played at left back? He should have. Did Kennedy not tell him?

     

     

    did calmac not tell him.did broonie not tell him.did all the fans sitting behind his dugout not tell him.

  23. Perhaps Neil thought “I’ll show Brendan how to win with Callum at LB”

     

    Didn’t turn out well

  24. lets all do the huddle ? on

    stop buying scottish players and building a team round them

     

     

    if you look at how pish the international team is theres nothing to suggest a celtic team with 5 or 6 scottish players in it will be able to compete in europe

     

     

    its been the policy over the last few years to try hoover up the ‘best’ young scottish players or bring our own through the academy

     

     

    a failed policy and one that should have been recognised ages ago so we could build a squad of technically gifted but physically strong athletes and not squad of wee boys

     

     

    suited PL over the years to allow this to happen as they tend to be cheap

     

     

    but we are further away than ever to being able to compete against anything other than average europen teams

  25. Think I’ll tune into Motherwell v Hearts if only to remind myself that there are at least 2 things worse than being a Celtic supporter. Hope they both lose!

  26. i'vehadtochangemymind on

    Learned cqn,

     

     

    a sidenote – deconstrucionism came from Joyce through Lacan to Derrida. Got an awful omninous reflection from lennie through Lawwell to Desmond.

     

     

    You’vemetyourmatchmitcsc

  27. lets all do the huddle ? on

    I have yet to hear a realistic approach to replacing the capitalist system that underpins Celtic plc and owns the club, 

     

    ——–

     

     

    i suggested getting someone appointed at a senior level who has the authority to push against PL’s bonus money ring fencing – something like a director of football

     

     

    currently PL goes completely unchallenged because his boss doesnt give a shit

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