AIK came through a tense final few moments in a 1-1 draw with Moldovans Sheriff in Stockholm last night to face Celtic in the Europa League playoff round, the first leg is in Glasgow on Thursday.
AIK were bottom seed in the Champions League first qualifying round, where they overcame Ararat-Armenia 4-3 on aggregate, but were bottom of the unseeded pack for the second round, which they lost 4-3 to Maribor. Maribor were beaten home and away by Rosenborg in the last round.
Last season AIK eliminated Shamrock Rovers from the Europa League qualifiers before losing home and away to Danes, Nordsjaelland.
Neil Lennon twice faced Swedish opposition in Champions League qualifiers in his first term at Celtic. Two comfortable 2-0 wins over Helsingborg in 2012 were followed by a more testing examination by Mo Bangura-inspired Elfsborg a year later, which resulted in a 1-0 aggregate win for Celtic.
Ronny Deila needed to overcome Malmo to reach the Champions League group stage in 2015 but despite racing into an early 2-0 lead, the first leg at Celtic Park was turned on its head when Malmo scored an added-time goal to make it 3-2. Jo Inge Berget, who Ronny had on loan months earlier, scored both Malmo goals. The Swedes won 2-0 a week later to knock Celtic out.
Although AIK are 19 games into their domestic league campaign, there should be a negligible gap in fitness by the time we face them on Thursday. There can be no excuses.
You and I were there in the dark summer of 2010, when Utrecht and Braga were the last teams to deny Celtic group stage football, and a year later, when Sion came within a CAS ruling of doing the same. It took Neil time to get it right, but a year later he earned 10 points in a tough Champions League group.
Before AIK, we have the small matter of a League Cup to defend against Dunfermline at Celtic Park tomorrow. Celtic have won a record 27 consecutive domestic cup games. Avoid defeat tomorrow and we set an unbeaten record. Let’s hope Dunfermline feel a backlash.
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Lurkin
Words have meaning… it is just that the meaning does not inhere within the word itself (because the word – what DeSaussure called the signifier – does not in and of itself exist without reference to what the word is said to represent – what De Saussure called the signified), … Derrida took it a step further ….
But doesn’t mean that many posts (including mine) cant still be gobbledygook.
:)
nil nil inthe heartz game.
I’VEHADTOCHANGEMYMIND on 16TH AUGUST 2019 7:45 PM
Learned cqn,
a sidenote – deconstrucionism came from Joyce through Lacan to Derrida. Got an awful omninous reflection from lennie through Lawwell to Desmond.
You’vemetyourmatchmitcsc
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Deconstruction came from Joyce … to Derrida?! Bloody hell… you must be Irish to have thought that…. only an Irishman would even think of trying that on!:)
I get the Lacan connection (all joking aside, if(as it seems you are interested in that sort of thing, I think it was Benoit Peters’ biography of Derrida that has some thoughts on that), but the Joyce bit may require a bit of explanation. If you have a moment, I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on that…. I am familiar with Derrida’s work on Joyce, but you may have an angle that I have not considered… .
(ps… I’m supposed to be preparing for a case, so Im on and off the computer … if I dont respond right away, please dont take offence… I will read back).
Macjay
“Hard to avoid the impression that Mexico is attempting to achieve in stealth , the return of California , Tejas and Floreeda by people power.”
Is that not preferable to doing it by military conquest which is how the USA got those territories?
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“Vale Bhoy
“Why would the Rosenberg fans lie?
You and I know that Meling is not the issue.
You have your opinion on him and I have mine.”
I think you have misread me. I have no opinion on the Rosenborg fans view of telling or yours. My point was that he was touted on the blogs and the next thing we hear is that we are close to signing him. I don’t want the fans crowd-voting for our next signing. For one thing, none of them will own up if he turns out to be a dud.
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MIT
If the bald truth of Derrida is that words have no intrinsic meaning then it is a rhetorical trick (as Lurkin Tim quickly worked out). Saying they only have meaning because of a shared understanding adds nothing to what we already knew. Derrida and Lacan both lead to logical absurdities, such as linking happy clappers to Trump- they belong more clearly in the discontented camp,
nest-ce-pas? (See me! See shared meanings!)
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Let’s All Do the Huddle
A DoF is a Plc appointment as much as a coach/manager is. He can be sacked just as readily at the whim of the real powers. A DoF may or may not be a good thing but it merely spreads the load it does not change the balance of power.
MIT…let me see if I understand…cloud has no meaning in and of itself without indirect reference to atmosphere/temperature/water vapour/air pressure etc. It is an interesting proposition.
AmgettingaheadacheCSC ;-))
H.H.
Totes MIt
De Sasuure and Joyce simulaneously develop the idea (independently through semiotics and literature) that the signifier ain’t quite the same as what it stands for. Derrida develops this, via Lacan’s sinthones into structuralism. We know this as the bigot dome and concrete in Govan.
I am Irish. Celtic is everyone.
SFTB
I am putting into a few sentences what he has taken years and texts to articulate. Any shortcoming in that regard is mine, not Mr. Derrida’s, I can assure you.
He is not an easy read, and, coming from a different tradition, many American and British scholars struggle with his work (compared to some of my former colleague, I found him a hard slog at time…. but rewarding)… and given your background, and how you seem to think, I actually think you would enjoy his work.
Just watched our manager’s presser with growing disbelief. “The team selection had no bearing on the result.” WTF? Isn’t that the whole point of team selection?
“It would have been different if we had started the game as well as we finished it.” Again, WTF? We lost 2 goals in the last 10 minutes.
“We are working away diligently in the background.” I am sick of hearing this, the epitome of closing the barn door after the horse as bolted. It’s the same as, “We have people on the phones all day.” “We have been planning reinforcements since February.” “We just had a four hour recruitment meeting.” “The Board have been first class, backed me all the way.” All feeble excuses or substitutes for lack of positive action. Why TF did they not work diligently to get a settled defense in long before the CL qualifiers, the way any competent, prudent and prepared management team would do? It’s rinse and repeat, every season, an utter fiasco.
Few will have been fooled by that presser. His lack of self awareness, or willingness to acknowledge huge errors in judgment, gives me no confidence that he will select a side to beat Newco in 2 weeks.
IniquitousIV
MIT
Sorry
Derrida and Lacan are as difficult for me to read as Tolkien and just as believable.
Off to watch some football
Derrida AND Celtic …. this might be one of my best days on CQN. throw in a bit of otis redding, and this would be pefect.
Ivehad
I had read most of Joyce, but, I am by no means an expert (and some days, I found him a harder read that Derrida.. in French!) …but, you have piqued my curiosity. I obviously have some diggning to do … once I do, I may come back with a few questions for you, if you dont mind.
Madden denies Hearts a stonewaller
*de saussure
De Sasuure, Joyce, Derrida and Lacan
Is that our new back 4
Joyce is the origin of derrida MIT
he deconstructued language in Finnegans Wake
that’d cost too much gene.
We could get Lacan on loan
Ok MIT…the CQN trifecta
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPMoAb4y8U
H.H.
Ive had…
Derrida would be turning in his grave at ‘the origin of” comment ….:)
If you are interested in literary theory, I became acquainted with Northrop Frye while at school …. was doing some grad work on his stuff… I didnt agree with him…, but he was nice enough to read it and offer some thoughts…although I later found out that some at his college were not happy with my paper, and decided that I I should not be TA’ing his course…
so, I went to law school instead
:)
listen if you want change in the way celtic are run bleed them dry, don’t buy tickets, don’t buy fake tops don’t buy any merchandise to prop up mr pedro and his failures, a half empty parkhead on the telly will show the world what we already know, and before the hun thing comes in gftb knows what school I went to, although he wont say it live on air, to be honest I love Gerry we have had some arguments about pies and bridies in christies bakery but we both love the club.hh,
SFTB…are you dismissing Tolkein…shocking….I thought he would be a great back-up LB ;-))
H.H.
I’ve been a lurker since the start of this site and i’m always disappointed by the way many react to a set back, I think we should be winning games against teams that have lesser resources than us and inferior players however I would not take this out against other posters.
Yes there have been many different views on here some with thought and others with passion, but most have been made with the best interest of Celtic at heart
I don’t like the personal attacks on PL however if it stays as what kind of job he has done then FairPlay, just don’t like insults.
I’m not trying to be a blog policeman or anything like that I just thought we were better than some of the comments posted
BIG PACKY AKA Billy Big Baws
See if you don’t give Celtic a penny…Do not tell anyone else what to do.
ps I don’t give a fuck what school you went to.
excellent Mit
Joyce wanted to become outwith the ‘english is best- irish is best spectrum’ (which we experience as nationalism) by undoing the conquerors biggest weapon : language.
The english are the baddies in his works btw
Ivehad
I will confess that, although required to read Joyce (and loved Portrait), I struggled with his work, and found it a bit intimidating because I didn’t have much of a background in classics.
But, had one of profs back then, put it in the terms you are now doing, I think I would have been more inclined to put in a bit more effort into it.
but never too late …. so, will go back and revist old JJ. thanks.
In the interests of language…as english is an evolution of old german, french and latin…what is the origin of the english word “dog”
H.H.
much rather have the young hearts left back than the killie one.
Let’s be positive for a moment ?
So we get the Rosenberg LB, nothing fancy just solid, we have the much derided Boli who is good going forward (humour me )
Now Melling could be a good role model / mentor for the youngish Boli, plus the pressure isn’t on him then and can ease into any appearances he’d subsequently make with less hassle from fans at the game, probably the same ones who thought Petrov was appalling too.
Is it dog the noun or dog the verb
BP1…could you explain why buying fake tops would adversely affect Celtics income?
CuriousCSC
H.H.
Gene…dog as in dogging lol
H.H.
Woof
THELURKINTIM
There’s a want with him.
mudders got 1 back
BIG PACKY 1 on 16TH AUGUST 2019 8:37 PM
listen if you want change in the way celtic are run bleed them dry, don’t buy tickets, don’t buy fake tops don’t buy any merchandise to prop up mr pedro and his failures, a half empty parkhead on the telly will show the world what we already know, and before the hun thing comes in gftb knows what school I went to, although he wont say it live on air, to be honest I love Gerry we have had some arguments about pies and bridies in christies bakery but we both love the club.hh,
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Only a Coatbridge mhan would know what you’re rattling on about. I know that you went to St. Augustine’s – the same school as my late, beloved big sister. Your strategy to bring about change is spot on and it was what I meant by my earlier reference to Sack the Board. It would bring about change without a shadow of a doubt.
So your plan to help the team win the league this season is for fans to boycott the games??
VP…a want/need to belong? I sometimes think so…that’s fine…he couldn’t pick a better club to want to belong to ;-))
opentoallCSC
H.H.
So in the cold light of day we are out of the ‘Champions League’ – good, a corrupt league, even worse than the SPL.
Let’s get together and support Neil Lennon and the team. Let’s regroup and and nail the nine in a row again, let’s be together and let us be Celtic again. In-house fighting serves no purpose nor gain for our team. If you don’t support Celtic, your ain’t a supporter.