Despite one former Rangers chairman, Sir David Murray, denying his board issued second contracts to players which were not registered with the football authorities for a period of a decade or more, a more recent chairman, Alastair Johnston, yesterday accepted that the club were guilty of a “breach of procedure” over player payments.
This being the case, Celtic Quick News will not be so quick in future to blindly accept despatches from Sir David as unerringly accurate. If Mr Johnston insists procedure was breached, that’s good enough for us.
The only matter left is what course of action the SPL, SFL and SFA should follow. On all previous occasions when a club has been guilty of a procedural breach over the registration of a player, the result of any game involving that player has been awarded as a 3-0 win to the opposition and the club have been punished.
On assessing the punishment the SPL Commission looking into this matter will consider if Rangers acted with transparency, with information given openly and when asked, or if breaches were hidden, denied to have taken place, and only uncovered after redacted contracts appeared in the press forcing the authorities to set a deadline on the club.
Mr Johnston insists that “Rangers made absolutely no attempt to disguise” the use of EBTs. Attempts to disguise wrongdoing is serious. This claim is correct but is completely irrelevant to the SPL Commission, who are solely concerned with player registration, not whether EBTs were used or not.
Mr Johnston makes no comment on whether Rangers made an attempt to disguise issuing players with second contracts.
He goes on to say, “I suspect that the [SPL] commission will not pursue this avenue of investigation, but it would be interesting whether or not ‘selective amnesia’ would be exhibited by those executives/directors called to testify under oath about their ongoing familiarity with the Rangers scheme.”
The SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie was a director of Rangers for the first five years of the clubs EBT use and benefited from an EBT himself. Despite these revelations from Mr Johnston, Mr Ogilvie still walks the corridors of power, president of our national game. It would be remarkable to see him testify under oath about the scheme Rangers operated while he was legally responsible for their decisions.
Cynics may suggest that Mr Johnston infers that executives at other clubs were aware of Rangers use of un-registered second contracts. It would be quite astonishing if this was the case and an enormous breach of commercial confidentiality by Rangers.
Looking forward to Raith Rovers in the League Cup tonight. Should be an excellent opportunity for Neil to shuffle the pack and try a few things.
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O.G.Rafferty
The Battered Bunnet, 15:19
The latter.
The volume has been turned up as more and more have their say – and what they have to say as well.
Johnston admitting a “breach of procedure”… how they move ever closer to the edge… and how the roar of the falls grows ever louder
Cracking riposte……………. keep em coming regarding Sevco’s fraud
first post of the day so first off I have to apologise,was told using capitals here means your shouting and that wasnt my intention so sorry to smashingmilkbottles, hamiltontim and anyone else I shouted????????????/ at my bad .
now to tonight I hope the crowd is decent I cant make it as 3 matches in 7 days from THE NORTH (up yours robinson) is not possible for my wee bones, but all you supporters out there get to the ground and support the “C’MON YOU BHOYS IN GREEN ” no excuses
I would play the newbies to give them a taste of paradise and definitely rest Broonie.
I think all the caps are in the right places heaven help us if I ever get the hang of this internet bampot buisiness
HH
The live updates article will be up at 19:15, could someone leave a note here?
Thanks.
Only small clubs talk about their attendances.
Big Nan
So why should Salmond be responsible/tainted for the point of view of someone you assume is his brother, but are not treally sure if he is or not?
Ma Team fur the Night..
Cool Haun,
FISHER…. Twardzik
Efe Wilson
Forrest, Kayal, Ibrahim, Mulgrew
Tony, Lassad.
We should take this opportunity tae Blood . .as many o
our Prospects as we kin.
Maks sense.. tae me.
Kojo
Still.. Laughin’… of course
thomthethim
siege mentality – more like – part of greens master plan no doubt
miki67
16:18 on 25 September, 2012
…..do zombies pay what they owe? or are they devoid of all conscience? No and Yes.
Proof that the huns are indeed, zombies.
I rest my case,m’lud. Let my peepil go!
***
I believe that their debts die with them!
greenjedi
16:44 on 25 September, 2012
Big Nan
So why should Salmond be responsible/tainted for the point of view of someone you assume is his brother, but are not treally sure if he is or not?
…………………..
Where do I say or imply that Salmond would be responsible. He is not his brother’s keeper.
Pay your taxes and you can have a say…
People with an Ulster Scots background should be allowed to vote in Scotland’s independence referendum, a senior Orange Order member has said.
Dr David Hume said Ulster Scots had played a key role in Scottish history.
“We are stakeholders as well. Surely a decision such as this should not ignore our input?” he said.
He was speaking at a Grand Orange Lodge of Scotland event in Glasgow to commemorate the centenary of the anti-Home Rule Ulster Covenant.
“In 1912 Scots unionists watched anxiously for Ulster, and in 2014 Ulster will watch anxiously for you as nationalists seek to win a referendum which would alter totally the constitution of our nation,” he said.
“A union without Scotland would be a poorer place.”
He added: “We will not forsake you as your forefathers did not forsake us.
“Many of them were not born in Ulster so they could not sign the covenant, but they held it in their hearts. We will not forget you for that and the continuing support you give to us.”
Dr Hume said Ulster Scots “provided the first unifying force in Scotland in the 6th Century AD and we later extended Scottish influence to Ireland in the 17th Century”.
Celtic Football Club @celticfc
Congratulations to Patrik and Filip Twardzik who signed new three-year contracts with #Celtic today. http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=3125
(LB)
ASonOfDan
Wonder will he be so keen on the Irish diaspora (or even just those on the island of Ireland) getting a vote on Irish unity?
Mort
Dr Hume said Ulster Scots “provided the first unifying force in Scotland in the 6th Century AD and we later extended Scottish influence to Ireland in the 17th Century”.
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thats nice, of Dr Hume, to highlight that the Ulster Scots had 1,000 years of Celtic & Christian Catholic heritage to fall back on
charles kickham
16:45 on 25 September, 2012
thomthethim
siege mentality – more like – part of greens master plan no doubt
******
….or possibly their “wha’s like us, damn few and their a’ deid” mentality.
Och, we’re back on to Zombies again!!
Me and Mags are back in Scotland for a few days.
We have a meeting with pre eminent QC
Hopefully we willbump into some badge wearers.
Mags is buying ;-)
HH
Big Nan
If so what did you mean by?
“it would be revealing if not entirely surprising.”
greenjedi
16:59 on 25 September, 2012
Big Nan
If so what did you mean by?
“it would be revealing if not entirely surprising.”
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Wot it says on the tin!
My Dear, Dear Kojo….
Since tonight’s game is only available to Celtic TV subscribers overseas….
Your erudite readers will be especially dependent on your ‘peerless’ match commentary and analysis….
Like an ‘honest version’ of David Francey….
Back in the Day….
I completely concur with your MWD concerning our attacking options…..
Young Watt should play from the start,with the two new strikers taking turns as his foil….
Hooper should be booked-in for some liposuction….
To reduce the girth of his butt….
Down to merely ‘useful/tactical’ dimensions…..
Surprised to see Young McGeouch on the Bench last weekend….
Seems much too early to throw him back into the fray,when we have other options.
I don’t expect we’ll be seeing him ‘head’ the ball anytime soon….
Yer Pal….Who Thinks Yer The Classiest Poster Oan The Blog…..
An extract from the Wiki page on the battle o the boyne that could make your average hunster spontantiously combust:
Ironically, historian Derek Brown notes that if the battle is seen as part of the War of the Grand Alliance, Pope Alexander VIII was an ally of William and an enemy to James.
This will confuse them more than the “You can keep the history if you’re willing to keep the debt” quandary has been doing to the smart* amongst them over the last few months.
*Picture a chimpanzee with a calculator in one hand, scratching his erchie with the other, this works for me because I have to picture something when I say “smart” when talking about sevconians – unfortunately there is no frame of reference in history for such a thing.
Now this was written a wee while ago but it has to be read to be believed- the level of ignorant bias and hysterical subjectivity is truly staggering. I’ve rarely seen such a one-sided piece of nonsense from anyone who wasn’t on some very powerful medication. It leaves you almost breathless with wonder at how mad some people really are without apparently being functionally ‘insane’:
SPORTING FAIRNESS V SPORTING INTEGRITY
Early September by auld Union Jack y-front Bill
As a Rangers fan, I have never understood what it means to be Celtic-minded.
Just this week, being sellic-minded means rushing out, presumably in one’s Celtic top, to buy a book about Rangers.
It seems to me that sellic-mindedness seems to hinge on some deep-seated identity crisis with a liberal doze of schizophrenia somewhere in the works.
But, of course, the key ingredient is hate. Yes- hatred. Pure and simple hate. Its what they do and what they are to the very rotten core.
Now, not every Celtic fan is a hater. Some hate the haters and others are just haters who can’t hate the haters because they themselves are the haters. I am a hater of hate but that does make me a real hater. I know plenty who are decent spuds and when the chips are down I count them as friends.
But bigotry and hatred seems to be the real essence of Celtic-mindedness. Its all they know.
This was, of course, the opinion of former Celtic owner Fergus McCann who famously quipped that Celtic-minded meant Roman Catholic bigot. This is what he said.
The news that Celtic supporters are buying up copies of Phil Mac Giolla Bhain’s book on Rangers FC brings the whole concept of Celtic-minded thinking and its implications to the fore once more.
Mac Giolla Bhain’s reputation as a credible journalist lies in shreds after being denounced by The Sun as a man “tarred with the sectarian brush” among other withering remarks. He has been outed as a bigot yet this seems to give him a new-found martyr status among the Celtic fanbase.
Now it has to be pointed out that the Celtic support were divided on Phil Mac Giolla Bhain prior to this episode with The Sun. Reasonable Celtic fans saw him as a bit of a rocket – a fantasist intent on causing bother and an attention-seeker, while those of a republican mindset despised him for his stand against the singing of IRA songs at Celtic games.
In short, Phil Mac Giolla Bhain was no big hero among Celtic fans until this week.
Maybe in a sane universe the outing of Phil Mac would have been greeted with relief and applause by Celtic supporters, happy that a festering malignancy in their ranks had been exposed and excised.
But that’s Celtic-minded for you.
Instead of being content that a “bad yin”, a truly evil one among them had been dealt with, those same Celtic fans who, for widely differing reasons, had no time for Phil Mac Giolla Bhain, now grant him hero and martyr status.
I want to contrast the way Celtic-minded people seem to think against the fair minded Britishness of the typical Rangers mindset.
I remember back in 1993, after Marseille had won the European Cup and it was discovered that they had cheated in the French League to give them an advantage going into the European Cup/CL Final, there was a story doing the rounds that they could be stripped of the Champions League title.
Apparently David Murray, then chairman of Rangers, was offered a chance by UEFA to replay the Final against AC Milan but he turned it down, saying that if Rangers couldn’t win it when they had the chance, they didn’t want another one- it was plain and simple: if we weren’t good enough to win it on our own merits then we didn’t deserve it. Cromwell and Churchill after him would have approved heartily.
I fumed about this for years, thinking of the opportunity blown for Rangers to win the big one. How could Murray pass this up? Marseille were cheats and didn’t deserve it. Cheats never prosper but at this moment they seemed to be doing just that- how could Rangers (the bastions of all that was good and right and upstanding) let them get away with this?
Recently I have come to see exactly where Murray was coming from. He was a custodian of the true British way of life and he had no choice but to do what was right – and I have it on good authority the story has real substance and the offer was genuine.
When Rangers were docked ten points last season for going into administration, effectively handing the SPL title to Celtic, Celtic grabbed it eagerly and gratefully, spending a lot of time and energy telling the world how much they deserved it. This of course is what they do. The contrast could not be more marked.
And I thought of one man: The Rangers manager and legend, Ally “Super” McCoist.
I realised that if the ball had been on the other foot and Celtic had been docked ten points, Coisty would have felt cheated. He himself would probably have called the title win hollow, if not tainted. He may well have rejected the title out of hand.
As would most Rangers fans. That’s just the way we are.
That, in a nutshell, is the difference.
Rangers don’t look for advantages or leg-ups or pauchles or any other unfair tactic that cheats use.
Rangers want to earn their victories the hard way – on the pitch.
Bluenoses don’t want privilege or being accused of having won a tainted title.
It also has to be said that not all bigotry is based on religion.
I just see it as a very simple thing.
Celtic-minded looks awful complicated and convoluted to me – it refers to “sporting integrity” while seeking to gain every advantage there is. And supporting a bigot just to spite your enemy. why after all do they want titles Rangers won fairly? Its a scandal and a disgrace.
While being a bluenose is about honesty and sporting fairness.
Of course, bigotry and mindless hate are not exclusive to some Rangers and Celtic fans.
Other SPL teams are jumping on the bigotry wagon, including Motherwell, who have taken to calling Rangers fans “Huns” and threatening to boycott their team’s upcoming Cup fixture at Ibrox.
This boycott should be taken very seriously by Rangers as the Motherwell support is renowned for emptying stadiums.
Fir Park, for example. Haha.
This is one of the most incredible article I have ever read- its almost awe inspiring in its blind benighted nescience…this clown is actually flaming the fires of discontent among the hordes and solidifying their infamous siege mentality.
Scary.
I’m gonnae try this one tonight….I mean,why not? I’m bored stupid anyway…..use an overseas proxy server, sign in to CelticTV, then move that to Swifter, and get the match live.
It’s a plan….
TryAnythingOnce CSC
wonkyradar – if that post is a real one and not designed to reel people like me into a trap then all I can say is Jebus help us !!
No wonder their club has died when they can post such utter drivel and, more importantly, believe it.
“Rangers don’t look for advantages or leg-ups or pauchles or any other unfair tactic that cheats use.”
Stupid, deluded huns.
ASonOfDan @1555
Just back and seen your reply to my earlier post about Andrew Smith – I was just asking a question.
I find it insulting that you would compare it to something that would appear on FF!
I dont go on to FF, or any of the other zombie sites for that matter – but I’m perfectly aware of the filth that appears on there. Several posters on here keep us informed.
HH!!
wonkyradar is awe naw’s sorcerer’s apprentice…..or sidekick, if the word ‘apprentice’ is offensive….is it? I don’t know any more….just the other day I called my cat a feline pest and she ripped me to bits and phoned the rspca. I am now on a charge of animal cruelty and being sent on the workfare programme at the cattery for 6 months. God knows what would’ve happened if I’d called her a zombie cat. I’d probably be a…..no,I don’t want to think about THAT.
The thing is : der hun posts stuff that would make wonky’s messages from the darkness seem trite in comparison.
It seems I can still be shocked in this life.
Is Lassad no out of the game the night?
Hope he isn’t as it would be a great run out for him to get his fitness levels up.
Was really impressed by him on Sat.
I stand prostate at the feet of wonkyradar.
HH
Back on yer head.
miki67
17:21 on
25 September, 2012
The thing is : der hun posts stuff that would make wonky’s messages from the darkness seem trite in comparison.
It seems I can still be shocked in this life.
There is no way you could post some of that stuff “raw”…it has to be cooked, and transmogrified in order to extract the pure poison so that people can digest it safely without dire symptoms of toxicity.
The Hun-Horde hive mind is a dark dark comb of zombie fever
Just popped in to the Celtic shop in Argyle St to get a ticket for the game tonight. got to the front of the Q to be told tickets are now sold upstairs!
FFS!
Got upstairs and encountered a tattered copy of the Celtic Opus lying there…RRP £1967.00 – yes, the decimal point is in the right place!
FFS!!
I am then handed a form that would do justice to a Visa request for North Korea.
FFS!!!
Then I am asked for £15! “I think you’ll find it’s £12” I said.
Wrong! it’s only £12 at the stadium!
FFS!!!!
I despair at times with this club. It seems, as was proved again on Saturday, that the only great thing about this club is the fans.
I decided I would just get a ticket at the stadium on principle and walked out. Now i’m just home,soaking wet, it’s chucking it down and I’m thinking Ach,I can’t be arsed now!
Why can’t they do ANYTHING straightforward.
Saturday’s gate was no doubt affected by the whole “Team 12” fiasco too.
Billy Bhoy
wonkyradar @ 17:07
‘Mac Ghoilla Bhain’s reputation as a credible journalist lies in shreds after being denounced by the Sun…’
Jings!
Hey Miki67
What’s Swifter? I presume its software of some kind but I cant find anything on it with Google.
Hail Hail
Awe Naw
Are you two making an appearance on Saturday at the quiz? ;-)
Mail me if needs be mate.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
17:28 on
25 September, 2012
I stand prostate at the feet of wonkyradar.
HH
Awe Naw I would reciprocate but my prostate is giving me jip.
Kilgore Trout
17:34 on
25 September, 2012
wonkyradar @ 17:07
‘Mac Ghoilla Bhain’s reputation as a credible journalist lies in shreds after being denounced by the Sun…’
Jings!
Yeah- because his book is doing really badly! Auld Bill has went radio…maybe if they had listened to Phil when he broke the story then they might have been able to do something about their sorry scenario.
Everyone on here and every Celtic fan should surely want sevco to win to win tomorrow?
I certainly hope to god they are in the draw for the next round.
Wonky
Stop it ,do you really expect us to believe there is anyone dense enough to write that let alone anyone thick enough to agree with it .
You didn’t get that from the rags ,did you .
You got a link?
Hail hail :-)
everybody away for supper?
Think I’ll join them.
Starving.