As you and I know, alcohol is sold at football games. If you are in a corporate seat, you can drink before kick-off, at halftime and again at fulltime. Prohibition only applies to the cheap seats.
Alcohol-related issues remain a problem in towns across Scotland in the hours after big games, but suggestions by First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, that there is a potential correlation between those drinking from cheap seats at games and violence (including the domestic kind) are simply unfounded. People are free to get tanked up before and after games, the wealthy can do so during games, and millions can do so in pubs and at home while watching games on TV.
I have some concerns about reintroducing alcohol for the rest of us. Alcohol requires appropriate infrastructure and ambiance – like there is at the Kerrydale Suite, for example. The North Stand Upper, where I sit, does not have the space, supervision capabilities, or even the toilets to become an appropriate venue to encourage the consumption of any more fluids. In the 20 years it’s been up, it’s never had enough paper towels to make it to halftime, and may God go with you, if you need to spend a longer visit, but don’t let that be a reason to stop the rest of you.
Modern football stadiums have many safe areas where alcohol can be consumed. Those who cannot handle their drink, would find themselves supervised to within an inch of a football banning order. Scotland needs to learn what a healthy attitude to alcohol looks like – check out the Kerrydale Suite for a glimpse.
Build the lounges, toilets, and grills. Put carpet down, dress stewards in black ties, have them welcome fans as “Sir” or “Madam”, treat football fans like responsible adults. It works in the hospitality areas and in the Kerrydale Suite, it’ll work from Palmerston to Peterhead.
Thank you for the tremendous response yesterday to the line-up for the CQN11 St Patrick’s Dinner. We have (St) Packy Bonnar, Tommy Coyne and Joe Miller for a Q&A, an unmissable address on Jock Stein by Archie Macpherson, and Celtic’s First Lady of Song, Patricia Ferns, for those of you who enjoy a song or dance. Let me know if you’re still looking for tickets,
celticquicknews@gmail.com
And Celtic, how hard can it be to put enough paper towels in the toilets? I love the family approach the club has now, but bringing kids means dealing with the toilets, and that’s never a highlight of the trip.
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West End of East End
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Glasgow Council had to reject it when it was ‘called-in’ by the Scottish executive – it was therefore taken out of Glasgow’s hands.
Hepburn then comments particularly on the Celtic application,
So the ‘tosh’ is in blaming Glasgow Council for rejecting the certificate, when it had no option after the SNP called it in.
Alfie Noakes
11:13 on
18 February, 2015
“The Scottish Government position remains that under the current arrangements it is for local authorities to ensure that stadia within their areas offer safe accommodation for supporters when granting Safety Certificates in accordance with the Safety of Sports Grounds Act 1975.
I can therefore confirm that under the approval of any application for standing in a football ground lies with the relevant local authority.”
I don’t think anymore needs said on the matter.
micktt,
Survey done.
cv
ALFIE NOAKES.
This isn’t a critical comment for once. It’s a genuine question.
Most governments in any country you care to mention have their share of critics,usually to an extent that their approval rating falls below 50%,their every action pulled to shreds by political commentators and the voting public alike.
Do you,as I do,find it a major concern that the SNP can do no wrong in the eyes of the electorate?
Apart from OBAF Act,few on here are critical. Indeed,most are clearly supportive. And I have to be honest and say that the typical poster on here,in my experience,would not be in the SNP catchment five or ten years ago.
Alfie
I have absolutely no wish to get drawn into your pointless, infuriating arguments but did you actually read what West End of East End wrote and the quotes he provides? The actually words I mean. They are absolutely clear in what they mean. They flatly contradict what you believed was your conclusive proof of government interference in the matter. Incidentally the quote you provided to Tom hardly seemed, in my opinion, to be the ‘smoking gun’ you believed it to be. As I say my opinion.
Have a good day.
Jimbo67
Micktt
Survey completed
With respect I think the bhoy missed a trick with his questions
When he asks if the media influenced my decision how to vote, I answered yes.
It did not CHANGE my decision. The incessant bias in the media REINFORCED my decision.
Judging by his other questions, that may have been an interesting theme to explore ie rather than whether the media influenced uncertain voters, to what extent did they reinforce the committed.
I wish him well in his efforts.
jimbo67
Goooooooooooooooood morning sir
Till later all
Alfie Noakes – Unless I’m missing something, GCC refused the application saying it was for the Scottish Government to decide. The SG replied to Charles Kennedy below that it was for the local authority to decide. CK ask JH to get involved as it came to an impasse. This was December 15th 2014 so fairly recent. Charlie Kennedy is one of the few politicians I have some trust in so hopefully can mediate this to a successful conclusion.
“The Scottish Government position remains that under the current arrangements it is for local authorities to ensure that stadia within their areas offer safe accommodation for supporters when granting Safety Certificates in accordance with the Safety of Sports Grounds Act 1975.
I can therefore confirm that under the approval of any application for standing in a football ground lies with the relevant local authority.”
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
11:21 on
18 February, 2015
And the answer is that by whatever means, the SNP have positioned themselves in such a way that they either are or are at least perceived to be the only major party with left-leaning sensibilities.
Leftclicktic
Good morning to you sir.
A wee day off here- off to the Travel Agent soon to see if I am sleeping in the road when I get to Las Vegas in June
Jimbo67
alfie noakes
11:00 on 18 February, 2015
YOU ARE THE JIM MURPHY RENEGADE AND I CLAIM MY £1000!!!!!
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
11:11 on
18 February, 2015
ALFIE NOAKES
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“gift to the opposition”
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There is no opposition worthy of the name on this forum – people who have a go at me only name-call and repeat their Labour/Murphy-hating tripe.
I very rarely get a point for point argument on here – because they have no coherent points to make.
My only real gift to the ‘opposition’ was the ‘gubbing’ in the nonsense Neverendum – I am proud to say that through Better Together I played my part.
I will also play my part for Labour in the General Election, where all the smug SNP voters, just like in September, will wake up to yet another hangover.
THANK GOD for the 2 million.
The so-called ‘missing’ 750k voters who ‘sneaked out’ of their poll tax evading boltholes to vote for YESNP and be subsequently ‘pardoned’ by Salmond, have ‘sneaked’ back in again, as there will be no such pardon forthcoming on the Council Tax.
THANK GOD for the local tax payers who pay their dues in order that much-needed local services can be provided for the poor, the young, the disabled and the old.
http://www.rakuten.co.uk/shop/bullshirt/product/FLIPDEAL/?_$ja=tsid:64051&scid=mi_UK_20150218-Wed_campaign-Direct-expresssale_day1_180215_segment-_subject-69_block-product
The perfect T-shirt to wind up the zombie in your local area.
LB
weeminger
11:26 on
18 February, 2015
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
11:21 on
18 February, 2015
And the answer is that by whatever means, the SNP have positioned themselves in such a way that they either are or are at least perceived to be the only major party with left-leaning sensibilities.
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The SNP could not lean left, even if they were hit by an express train on their right – it is not in their DNA.
They are, always have been and always will be…Tartan Tories – they vote with the Tories and they governed with them.
They are a ONE ISSUE rabble – first – last and always.
Heard it all now
Labour march into the Westminster lobbies backing the Tories austerity budget.
They profess they will make the same cuts but only take longer to inflict the pain
And their drumbanger professes about local services while boasting about spending 3 years fighting to deny the Scots the right to independence and manage their own local services effectively with ALL their own revenue, not the Westminster pocket money
Keep em coming Alfie ha ha
micktt
Done mate,good luck tae yir bhoy
HH
squire danaher
11:27 on
18 February, 2015
alfie noakes
11:00 on 18 February, 2015
YOU ARE THE JIM MURPHY RENEGADE AND I CLAIM MY £1000!!!!!
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I am proud to be associated with Jim Murphy,
DECENT man – force for GOOD in Scotland through Labour – GOOD Celtic man.
I describe myself in the same terms.
West End of East End
11:01 on 18 February, 2015
Charles Kennedy seems to have concerns that the Scottish Government are involved in the decision making process..
‘Concern remains, however, regarding the failed bid by Celtic FC and role the Minister for Sport still has in that application. Local authorities, not the Scottish Government should be giving permission to applications. If that is indeed the case then the Scottish Government should not interfere.
I have asked the Minister for Sport to keep me updated on matters, I will be keeping a close eye on proceedings and the impact it may have for the wider Scottish game.”
ENDS.’
http://www.charleskennedy.org.uk/kennedy_keeps_up_pressure_for_safe_standing_for_football_clubs
Alfie Noakes
11:34 on
18 February, 2015
How do you feel about Jim Murphy’s association with the Henry Jackson Society?
Alfie
Whatever can be said about you, you appear to be committed to your beliefs and fair play to you.
I think you do yourself a disservice comparing yourself to Jim Murphy.
Alfie Noakes
11:34 on
18 February, 2015
How do you feel about Jim Murphy having to pull tweets and videos on NHS stats due to his comparison being made on a false premise? Accident or hoping not to get caught? Is blaming the researcher a cop out?
Weeminger
But BBC Reporting Scotland didn’t say that.
They said its all the fault of the diddy Scottish Government for not publishing stats because the proper UK Government does.
That nice Mr Murphy was only behaving like a proper statesman.
Alfie Noakes – Your quote – “Glasgow Council had to reject it when it was ‘called-in’ by the Scottish executive – it was therefore taken out of Glasgow’s hands.”
I’ve taken your advice and Googled this, I can’t find any reference to this being “called-in”
You also stated above “I very rarely get a point for point argument on here – because they have no coherent points to make” If this is politics you’re referring too then fill yer boots, I’ve no interest in discussing that with you but that’s not what we were discussing.
Unless my Google history has been tampered with ala Criag Whyte, can you point me to the relevant pages ? If you can’t, you can go back to ranting about SNP and I’ll scroll past in the future…
ernie lynch
11:46 on
18 February, 2015
He also states though that:
“I welcome the clarification from the Scottish Government regarding safe standing at football grounds[that it’s an issue for the local authorities]. That means that here in the Highlands it is the Highland Council that has the authority to enable clubs to introduce safe standing, such as Ross County FC in my constituency”
Ultimately it’s clear that the Scottish Minister considers it an issue for the local authorities. What is not clear is why GCC thought it a matter for central government.
At the end of the day a decision will be reached, and if one thing comes from all of this it’s that it’s explanation will need to be totally clear.
Time difference is hard going… 15 pages to read back on but sadly off outt
Really dont know what to expect with this inter game.
Still only lustig and commons out ..well 50/50 for kris ?
livibhoy
Prefer this one
http://greenbrigade.proboards.com/thread/62144/love-celtic-racism-shirt
HH
squire danaher
11:42 on
18 February, 2015
Heard it all now
spending 3 years fighting to deny the Scots the right to independence and manage their own local services effectively
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You must be living in an X-Box constructed computer-game world.
1) It was LABOUR who delivered a parliament for SCOTLAND for the first time in 300 YEARS.
2) No one denied the Scots anything – in fact we had a free and unfettered choice and chose to REJECT separation from our brothers and sisters in these islands.
3) It is LABOUR who has won ALL the major socialist battles in this country since 1900
4) The ONE-ISSUE rabble that is the SNP have NEVER done ANYTHING, or even proposed, ANYTHING,that was/is directly beneficial at the working class, or poorest in our country.
5) The SNP stupid ‘it will be alright on the night’ tripe peddled during the Neverendum, would have seen Scotland thrown into bankruptcy, in a Greece-like state, and thousands thrown on the unemployment scrap-heap.
6) Pensions would have devalued just as quick as the oil price ( sorry we don’t talk about that any more)
Anyone at the devlopment game few days ago ?
Just read young duffy from derry came on and helped set up a goal.. good to here.
How is young calvin miller coming along ?
Alfie Boakes Quick Spews no fur me!!
Any news about the Celtic?
Big game tomorrow in case some of you have forgotten!
:-)
West End of East End (Charlie Kennedy is one of the few politicians I have some trust in)
11:57 on 18 February, 2015
Do you accept that Charles Kennedy, one of the few politicians you have some trust in, has concerns that the Scottish Government were involved in the decision?
Mr Ewen Murray, so-called sports journo, has proudly announced that the “Rossonerri” are in town to play Celtic!!
Ye coodny make it up!!
HH
Ernie Lynch – You can read it that way if you cherry pick quotes. As GCC refused saying it was SE decision who then replied saying it wasn’t, Charlie asked for clarity. Still can’t find the smoking gun…
The Scottish Football Association gave the green light to safe-standing in December 2011. However, in August Celtic FC had their application rejected by Glasgow City Council. Confusion has arisen as the Safety Advisory Group, chaired by Glasgow City Council, stated safe-standing matters may be a matter for the Scottish Government and not the local authority.
Charles Kennedy wrote to the Scottish Government Minister for Sport, Health Improvement and Mental Health, Jamie Hepburn MSP, calling for the Scottish Government to clarify the position.
Responding to Mr Kennedy’s letter, Jamie Hepburn MSP said:
“The Scottish Government position remains that under the current arrangements it is for local authorities to ensure that stadia within their areas offer safe accommodation for supporters when granting Safety Certificates in accordance with the Safety of Sports Grounds Act 1975.
I can therefore confirm that under the approval of any application for standing in a football ground lies with the relevant local authority.”
Cant wait for the morning after,when the expense fiddling,wagon jumping,Murphy,wakens up with the thought that he is leader of a Scottish Labour party ,consisting of a handful of MPs.
Not even a couple of (on the expenses) Irn Bru will help.
Alfie,you are a gullible fud,living with the dream of a Labour Party that died along with John Smith.
ernie lynch – Do you accept that Charles Kennedy, one of the few politicians you have some trust in, has concerns that the Scottish Government were involved in the decision?
Why the snide comments ?
Personally, I don’t think the Scottish Government were involved in the decision, I think it’s the unseen hand of Police Scotland….
Big John Guidetti says he might be playing in Italy next season as he still has family there.I think the big guy isnt to keen in staying at Celtic. H.H.
West end of East End – its the police who are calling the shots on safe standing. They dont want it so the councils wont approve it.
Simple.
People like Alfie Noakes are better to be ignored but seeing his pain and ire makes me smile. His increasing desperation to defend Saint Jim and his once upon a time socialist party is very amusing.
Murphy a decent man because………….?
He ignores votes (on fracking or the bedroom tax I forget, they meld into one and other) and gets a photo opp at Pittodrie instead?
He spent years getting a free education (without graduating) and then screwed all the students over the grant and then moved into his role as professional politician. What a socialist.
He is one of the biggest expenses claimants (including for a bottle of IRN BRU).
He was and is one of the biggest supporters of the Iraq war.
He blames the SNP because his so called team of advisors (stop laughing at the back) mis-read government statistics while he made a video insulting hospital staff and then pulled it with little or no media coverage of the lies they told?
I’m sure we can find something
Such decency.
Saint Jim with all those halo above the head media pictures.
What his team really think are –
Let the plebs have bevvy at the fitba and they’ll vote for me.
Weans canny vote so stuff free school meals.
What a socialist.
Since that man has been in charge Labour’s support in Scotland has not improved and we’ve had a month where his flagship policies have been seen to be moronic and pandering nonsense.
He’s doing a great job. Sadly I think he himself will be re-elected come May but as for the party, that one like Alfie Noakes is twisting in the wind.
Keep on posting Alfie, you are making me and my fellow nats laugh out loud on a daily basis.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
squire danaher
11:56 on
18 February, 2015
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The SNP talking about disappearing stats, there’s a gaping open goal right there.