Alcohol, poor facilities and dignity at Ibrox

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I’m a bit confused at the chat this morning of reintroducing the sale of alcohol at football games.  Alcohol is available for sale at games at Celtic Park, you just need to have a ticket for an expensive enough seat.  If you’re in the cheap seats, you get to queue to pay for some cola.  Is people’s ability to pay an indication of their likelihood to behave in a dangerous or criminal way with some alcohol in their blood?

This implication has always troubled me.

Alcohol, wherever it is sold, inevitably leads to over-indulgence and potentially dangerous behaviour, and requires strong stewarding, whether that is at a night club, or in the No. 7 restaurant.  Scotland’s licenced premises have changed beyond recognition in recent decades.  They are increasingly well-lit, family friendly and safe places to be.  They now sell better beer too, but our nation’s problem with alcohol remains acute.

Society needs to be educated on how to use alcohol responsibly; good venues are part of the solution.

While we are on the subject of facilities at Celtic Park…….  I go months without buying food or drink in the North Stand, Upper, for good reason.  Last week (pestered by one of the boys), I left for the kiosk with 40 minutes on the clock, didn’t get served until the second half started, only to be told there were no hotdogs or pies left.

You know me, I’m not one to get angry at Celtic, but the sheer frustration pushed me over the top, and I didn’t have a drink!  If you’re charging circa £4 for something that’s costing less than £1, make sure stock is sufficient.  Have two people serving each side of the kiosk, not two on one side, with a single person making hardly a dent on the queue at the other.

Needed to get that off my chest.

The ‘news’ this morning that Rangers International are trying to sack commercial director, Imran Ahmad, is more curious for being news than in itself.  Is it even possible for this news to be anything other than a leak from a director against another director?  These newspaper people don’t do irony, they just take careful notes and go write up their story.

This whole episode is beginning to feel a bit like sitting out the back when the neighbours don’t realise their bedroom window is open.  You can hear the noises and you looked up and caught a glance at something horrific looking.  It’s something you’ll laugh about later with your friends but these people really need to acquire some dignity.
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  1. Mike in Toronto on

    I also think Fergus would be a great shout for the flag. When we look at where we were then, and compare it to (i) where we are now, and (ii) where R***s are (dead), I cant imagine that there would be a single boo this time around. We owe him that.

  2. quonno

     

     

    14:37 on 26 April, 2013

     

     

    “Just remember that a thing obtained is not always nearly as good as when you merely desired it.”

     

     

    That definitely applies to the half time pie at CP.

  3. Phil MacGiollaBhain‏@Pmacgiollabhain2m

     

    Of course if there is any doubt over the ownership of key assets like the stadium then the stock exchange would have to be informed…

  4. I have said it before ,if the players have cut out alchoholic beverages during the season then…..so should the fans!!

     

    Show solidarity with our team and lay off the booze .Starting when the players turn up for pre-season training . Theres the winter break for those who are struggling then back on the wagon till the final whistle is blown at the cup final.

     

    This really does make sense.

  5. Dead and Loving it on

    Hamiltontim

     

    14:48 on

     

    26 April, 2013

     

    Modern barbers are rubbish!!!!!

     

     

    Especially when you have a heid like a fifty bob cabbage!!

  6. OG Rafferty

     

     

    Ryan’s Daughter is set, I think, in the year before World War 1. So, it’d be remarkable for an Irish pub to have a TV behind the bar.

  7. 44 years ago, i was 7 minutes away from the kick off to my first ever Celtic V them match

     

    10 minutes later we were winning one nil

     

     

    Loved it

  8. kikinthenakas on

    Re the drinking at CP, my bhoy was at the emirates and man city had loads of temp bars set up before the game with live music, said it was great.

     

    Fortunately I don’t have to worry about the drink, not because I don’t indulge but I am in the investors, the beer is frequently bad, the staff poor and the prices ridiculous, so don’t expect too much!

     

    For those going to the Wayside do, hope to see you tomorrow.

     

    Kikinthenakas

  9. JJ

     

     

    Sadly, I’ll have to pass – maybe next time. Hope you all have a great day.

     

     

    HH

  10. O.G. Rafferty 14:15

     

     

    Never knew that!

     

     

    So for someone that has always been fascinated with that game – I have to find out what goal it was…..

     

     

    My Dad & Uncles were all at the game but I was too young….remember listening to the 2nd half on the radio….

     

     

    Nae Jinky….Nae Yogi…..Plans announced by Rangers for after match celebration at Ibrox……

     

     

    Billy….Buzzbomb….Young George Connolly….Stevie….Rangers End fighting amongst themselves….Nae Ibrox Party

     

     

    Great Memories…..

  11. Catering/ non-catering:

     

     

    Went to Old Trafford (0-3 :-( WGS) and was in the cheap(?) hospitality boxes area. Before k.o. girl took our orders; pies, burghers, fries, non-alcoholic drinks, tea, coffee etc. we paid for them and got one chit covering the entire order.

     

     

    Come half-time you handed over chit (separate counter from those purchasing) and you got a hot-bag (foil lined) with all your food and a cup-holder tray with your drinks.

     

     

    Not cheap – but the system seemed to work (plenty of staff in the kiosk area). Don’t recall anyone missing the second half k.o. unfortunately.

  12. Why don’t we bin all the catering kiosks and bring back the macaroon bar and spearmint chewing gum guy?

  13. traditionalist88 on

    Parkheadcumsalford 14.11

     

     

    Drunk Celtic fans already abusing their fellow supporters?!

     

     

    If a columnist in the gutter press came away with this they would be lambasted.

     

     

    I have seen many a drunk Celtic fan but in my experience our fans tend to be merry and boisterous yes but abusing each other… I don’t think so.

     

     

    Don’t you think before the club, or any club, sanctioned this, the appropriate measures would be taken to ensure it wasn’t abused?

     

     

    We all know how long it takes to get served at CP anyway so the chances of anyone getting wasted in an hour and a half can’t be too high. We’re not turning the place into a nightclub and as far as I know won’t be applying for the late licence.

     

     

    Maybe you are happy with the class discrimination?

  14. TBB

     

    I think minx will be battering you soon bhoyo.

     

     

    SoS

     

    no quality high schools in Tyre…we had to go to ML1 for higher education..

     

     

    spikey

     

    same problem buddy.. never kicked another ball after that fateful day..

     

    same leg different problem,, arthritis in knee now due to fecking mess of it.. 09/03/1985 to be precise…

  15. Would Fergus come back? Great idea if he would agree to unfurling the championship flag. In reality we should be erecting a statue of him outside paradise. Everything we have now – our history intact, , the new stadium, our own Celtic shares certificate hanging on the wall, Seville, last 16 of the CL, Larsson, O’Neill and Lennon etc all stem from Fergus’s business acumen. We would be gone – no Zombie resurrection allowed for us.

     

     

    HH

  16. Just read the twitter feed of the pieman’s press conference. Deary me, does he never learn?

     

     

    Rangers FC Official ‏@RFC_Official 2m

     

    AMcC on Mather – I had a meeting yesterday that was absolutely great. We’ll have a more in-depth meeting on Tuesday. Very positive.

     

     

    Rangers FC Official ‏@RFC_Official 1m

     

    AMcC – Anyone who will have seen us this season will see that we desperately need some players to get us through the next division.

     

     

    Rangers FC Official ‏@RFC_Official 16s

     

    AMcC – The board have been doing a lot of work. They have been great at telling me information they feel I should know as manager.

     

     

    Rangers FC Official ‏@RFC_Official 14s

     

    AMcC on transfers – We don’t have anything concrete. I’d be hopeful that perhaps next week I’d be able to tell you a couple of names.

  17. BobbyLennoxtownbhoys on

    I can see where PL is coming from but I don’t agree with it im sorry

     

     

    Wer,r based in The West Of Scotland where alcohol abuse is the highest in this Continent

     

    People don’t realise their whole thinking changes with alcohol…ever had that I cant remember that?? wakin up in the morning to check the score coz you cant remember

     

    it!!! all I need is the ones who sit close to me to have access to more booze during the games….saying that they will spend their time at the game standing rooted to the bars.

     

    even though its been barred for along time,it will only take one bad decision from a MIB

     

    and thats like askin will it get dark tonight…we will be straight back to why I was banned.

     

     

    £100 off a ST and get it back from booze!!!! not from me HH

  18. forget about stock exchange, illegal ownerships, changes of shares, different CEO’s, inaction of SFA, lack of scrutiny by MSM, etc – it can be ignored because no one can or is willing to force the issue – not even Celtic. Plan is to keep the dead Rangers body in Scottish football for a few years more then suddenly they have 3 years properly audited accounts etc and are legit and the rest is two fingers to Scottish footbal

  19. oopps

     

     

    oglach

     

    14:57 on

     

    26 April, 2013

     

     

    should read –

     

     

    without Fergus we would be gone – no Zombie resurrection allowed for us.

  20. I love a good alcohol debate but will always defer to the words of Soggy Sweat jr. on the matter:

     

     

    “My friends, I had not intended to discuss this controversial subject at this particular time. However, I want you to know that I do not shun controversy. On the contrary, I will take a stand on any issue at any time, regardless of how fraught with controversy it might be. You have asked me how I feel about whiskey. All right, here is how I feel about whiskey:

     

    If when you say whiskey you mean the devil’s brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster, that defiles innocence, dethrones reason, destroys the home, creates misery and poverty, yea, literally takes the bread from the mouths of little children; if you mean the evil drink that topples the Christian man and woman from the pinnacle of righteous, gracious living into the bottomless pit of degradation, and despair, and shame and helplessness, and hopelessness, then certainly I am against it.

     

     

    But, if when you say whiskey you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine, the ale that is consumed when good fellows get together, that puts a song in their hearts and laughter on their lips, and the warm glow of contentment in their eyes; if you mean Christmas cheer; if you mean the stimulating drink that puts the spring in the old gentleman’s step on a frosty, crispy morning; if you mean the drink which enables a man to magnify his joy, and his happiness, and to forget, if only for a little while, life’s great tragedies, and heartaches, and sorrows; if you mean that drink, the sale of which pours into our treasuries untold millions of dollars, which are used to provide tender care for our little crippled children, our blind, our deaf, our dumb, our pitiful aged and infirm; to build highways and hospitals and schools, then certainly I am for it.

     

     

    This is my stand. I will not retreat from it. I will not compromise.”

  21. Agent Craigy Bhoy Whyte should be the man to raise the flag. The catering at Celtic Park is abysmal. I’ve been to dozens of venues catering for crowds on a par with Celtic’s and I’m sorry to say,I’ve never seen worse anywhere. They need to sort out the present catering situation prior to adding to the mayhem by selling booze.

     

    Celtic are doing a lot of things right, the £100 reduction, improved viewing for disabled, improved Family & Children entertainment unfortunately they always manage to get one or two things wrong as well. If they are trying to rejig the seating to create a better atmosphere/provide a standing area/a 2nd singing area or whatever, they should have explained themselves and people by & large would understand & co-operate. As it is they are annoying some of their most faithful Clients by insisting they move seats without adequate consultation.

  22. RRC

     

     

    The 2 mins right before half time must have been incredible….has there been a higher profile Us v Them game where we have scored 2 goals as quick as that to kill them off…….Half Time must have been one big pairty…..

  23. swatson Neil Lennon's 6ft skinny twin! on

    traditionalist88

     

     

    Guy at the end of the row in front of me calling everybody W##k##s and boring B##t##s on Sunday, cause he wanted us all to sing, he was half cut and then didn’t appear after half time.

     

     

    Would he have did it sober? Doubt it!

  24. ArranmoreBhoyLXV11 on

    HH

     

     

    Celtic £12.5 k donation to Radio Clyde.. Fantastic gesture.. Brother Walfrid s dream lives on..

     

     

    Oh how wonderful to be associated with such a club, unlike the grubby shower from Govan..

  25. traditionalist88 on

    swatson Neil Lennon’s 6ft skinny twin!

     

     

    And? Those who want access to excess amounts of alcohol can get it anyway, thats the point- and that incident, whilst regrettable, is not a regular occurrence in the ground.

     

     

    The club are correct to be pushing this and I daresay they have contacted their counterparts down south to get their view before going public with this.

     

     

    HH

  26. Phyllis Dietrichson on

    I agree completely about inviting wee Fergus back to unfurl the flag. It’s only 19 years after he saved us that we can truly appreciate what he did. It would be a chance for the fans to say thank-you and a proud moment for his family.

  27. ArranmoreBhoyLXV11 – 15:04 on 26 April, 2013

     

     

    Whats the chances of the mhanky mob “spending a tenner for ever fiver”

     

     

    Naaah not going to happen,

  28. fritzsong, 14:52.

     

    Indeed, so that can’t be right at all. But it is in a film and I’m sure John Mills is in it – maybe it is on the news on TV.

     

    Dulcima, that’s what it is and I think it’s Billy’s header too.

     

    Apologies Tully57

  29. swatson Neil Lennon’s 6ft skinny twin!

     

    15:02

     

     

    That’s the kind of guy I was thinking about earlier. He needs to go on a course, or at least be subjected to some public information films, hosted by Mr Cholmondley-Warner.

     

     

    Along these lines: “Feeling a little bit bevvied, old chap? Then best sit down and mull things over quietly for a while. No need to stand up and call the people around you ‘W##k##s and boring B##t##s’ just because they won’t sing a song with you … .”

  30. BobbyLennoxtownbhoys on

    RaRaRasputin

     

     

    Well said sir!!

     

    ive felt that pain and misery

     

     

    HH

  31. Iniesta: Celtic Park is second to none

     

    By: Newsroom Staff on 26 Apr, 2013 14:33

     

    CELTIC Park has a special European atmosphere that is famous throughout football, and that was certainly the case earlier this season when the Hoops beat Barcelona.

     

     

    It was a result that reverberated around the world, and coming just 24 hours after the club celebrated its 125th anniversary, meant it was an extra special night for every Celtic supporter.

     

     

    And while he may have been on the losing side that night, the occasion left a lasting impression on Andres Iniesta, who is hoping to get another opportunity to play at Paradise.

     

     

    Speaking earlier this week, the Barca midfielder said: “If you can go and play at a full Celtic Park on Champions League night then you can play anywhere. The fans create a crazy atmosphere like nothing I have ever heard.

     

     

    “I do hope in the future we can draw Celtic again because even though we lost it is one of the best stadiums to play football in the world.”

     

     

    Celtic, having retained the SPL title, will be aiming for another successful European campaign next season, and we want all our supporters here at Paradise to cheer on the Bhoys.

     

     

    Current and new season ticket holders are being rewarded as a thank you for your phenomenal support with full priced adults receiving £100 reduction on the cost of a 2013/2014 Season Ticket and kids Season Tickets for £50 are back too.

     

     

    Click HERE for full details on how you can #BeCeltic, Belong.

  32. The Battered Bunnet on

    Minx

     

     

    I do my best to guard your reputation, but it’s not the easiest job.

  33. Paul

     

     

    I had no idea alcohol was banned in the first place. A bottle of MD 20 20 lying underneath a seat in block 104 at the last home game….Forget queuing for a pie or coke, that’ll be the least of your worries….can you imagine the queue for the toilets at half time after serving beer to 20,000 or so middle aged men for two hours before the game? Given that only around half of men wash their hands after the using the loo….we’ll all be in hospital with all sorts of ailments from the door handles unless they install swinging doors! And lets face it….who washes their hands properly anyway with a push down tap set at 15 bar ‘fire hose’ pressure, temperature at 2 degrees, with no hot water tap, dodgy soap and usually no paper towels….and even if you survive all of that….the second hand smoke will get you in the long term anyway…..

  34. TBM,

     

    Sorry for delay. Your nearest & dearest may be OK about you smoking, but my no1 son is/was pretty intolerant (he may have relaxed by now). Don’t know whether I’m to blame for not smoking or Mrs IC for doing it – she gave up years ago, tho’.

     

    HH!

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