There is no doubt an appetite in Scotland to eliminate what they look upon as sectarian.
I agree and I agree that this majority opinion thought the OBaF Act would deliver this. They swallowed the line that was pushed- that this would even up the score and get the fenian side in trouble as much as the Orange side, Of course, they never dreamed that anybody would be arresting any fans singing anti-English songs at Scotland matches, or songs of tribal rivalry between fans of Morton v St Mirren, Hamilton v Well, Ayr v Killie, Hearts v Hibs, St. Johnstone v Dundee United, Falkirk v Dunfermline or Aberdeen against either Celtic or Sevco. They thought it was all about that Irish thing – you know Ulster stuff- and it won’t affect us because we are not sectarian, we are not bigoted or prejudiced or tribal or adversarial. Ours is just banter about paedophilia and the like or how Cowdenbeath folk smell
The stats produced by the OBa F convictions did not back this up with only a moderate increase in convictions for Celtic supporters and a massive one for Sevcoites and an inexplicable number for Falkirk after a fight at a railway station.
In 2017, Sevco fans received 110 charges, Hibs (with no rebel songs) got 101, and Celtic had 60.
Overall 66% of all charges cited an alleged Hate Crime, 58% alleged a target against Religion (75% of this was antii- Catholicism) and 6% and 2% were for Race and Sexual Orientation offences.
What is clear is that your assertion that the rebs have a clear sectarian intent was not proven in law and I would argue, with this evidence, that this is due to the sonbook being largely non-sectarian and provably so.
Your attempts to prove that the rebs are sectarian has floundered on this rock time and time again. When Ray McAreavy posted his powerful condemnation of the disrespectful use of wall to wall rebs at Celtic games, on Sentinel Celts, you were not brave enough then to tell him that his life’s work and his songs were sectarian. So why are you on here trying to prove that point?
We all accept and condemn the RITG add on- not one dissenter is to be found on here for that. There are many of us who share the condemnation for the sheer boring repetition of the songbook and the provocative use to which it is put but the solution is not to moan and wring hands on here. Be brave enough to sing over it or whistle it down. You’ll soon find out what the views of the (silent) majority is. I’ll even promise to join in with this but do not ask me to accept that the rebs are all sectarian or that there is anything honourable about singing sectarian songs in private amongst our “own kind” but not in public amongst others, because I find that the worst sort of hypocrisy.
I would like to see songs of Irish Republicanism reduced but I do not want them to disappear and I will never find them shameful, apart form the overt anti-protestant add ons which shames RITG.
I don’t feel the Green Brigade are responsible for those add ons either (it is against all the things they articulate on their site) but a younger crowd attracted to their colour but unaware of their views, have re-introduced this egged on by the same group who organise and signal each other to disrupt any match day Remembrance Events (those who have attended away matches know who is doing this and I’ll give you two clues- It is not the GB and it is not our Irish travelling support).
If I know who this group is, then our club allocating away toclets know who it is and can effectively intervene. Dare I say it in the same way that the Ibrox club cracked down on those fans from EK supporters buses who “disgraced” them.
I think we need to be careful about complaining that Clancy has been dropped because they complained.
We need stats to show how often Clancy has been rested or dropped from a SPFL 6 match list before we know if this is unusual- we cannot go off half cocked if it is as innocent as the SFA says it is.
martin o'seville on
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 8:48 PM
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You say the Kelly’s dipped the till.
I say the Kelly’s allowed a third 1/3 of the crowd, who knows maybe more than that, to be lifted over the turn style.
I, and anyone else who went to see Celtic when the Kelly’s were in charge can testify that the crowd attendance figures were out of sync, because of the kindness afforded to Celtic support, by the Kelly’s.
You say the Kelly’s dipped the till, can you prove that?
Not on here often these days – in my opinion both of the injuries on Sunday are on Ange.
Halliday’s shocking challenge on our captain at Tynecastle; Power’s challenge on Turnbull (?) at CP; Butcher’s challenge on Turnbull at Tannadice … and not a single peep from our manager.
If you accept these type of challenges, then they will carry on regardless – now we have Calum and possibly Guchi injured for several weeks.
These challenges should have been called out by Ange from day one – not quietly avoided by someone who supposedly speaks his mind, and is known for putting the journos in their place!
martin o'seville on
FLEAGLE1888 on 23RD JANUARY 2022 10:12 PM
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Agreed 100%. 👍
martin o'seville on
A tribe of dumbfkery Dan’s.
IniquitousIV on
On February 2, we will be without Rogic and Maeda on international duty, and Callum, Hideguchi and possibly Abada and Kyogo through injury. A repeat of official sanction of brutality by Cheatin’ Beaton on Wednesday could be devastating to us.
The Zombies will be without Fat Charlie, but will have Aribo and Roofe available in February. They are just unbelievably jammy.
An Tearmann on
MARTIN O’SEVILLE on 23RD JANUARY 2022 10:16 PM
A tribe of dumbfkery Dan’s.
And everyone of them a Celtic fan unlike your confused hun self
Away ye go and watch fantasy george like the Kellys gone
Like Brian eh av nae money really dempsey-gone
Continuity over being shat out- gone
You can change history- its gone
You can change your politics pending who you whore to george falls away.but gullible saps like you think he is working(funded by who) class.no class vermin
Turkeybhoy on
When you are down,someone will kick you in the Nuts.We lose our Captain.They get their best player back,Aribo,due to a shock result.
Or is it just you’re SNP mindset speaking, were dipping, and thieving, and much worse than that, becomes the norm?
martin o'seville on
Bono is an illuminati puppet sell out.
Deary me!
martin o'seville on
If Galloway is funded by Russia?
Who is wee torn face funded by?
Turkeybhoy on
Big Wavy,
Don’t think we will be swing Kyogo against them.
Turkeybhoy on
Seeing.
Burnley78 on
A win at Tynecastle will be huge for us. We will field a team with 8 Tynecastle virgins. Never easy at that bitter little cesspit.
martin o'seville on
If Hearts park the bus like Livi, St Mirren, 4 European trophies José, etc, etc, what should Ange’s approach be?
martin o'seville on
Ange ball?
The Celtic way?
Park the bus and mug them back?
What?
An Tearmann on
Martin o confidence missing
Torn face who is that?
Is that a top down view of your topic hoor.
Never voted for snp in my life unionist vermin
At every turn you are on the same side as the cheating rancid hun,a daily diet of ignore Boris and his Eton set
Failed talk by the failed Russian funded topic hoor
That independence will cost
Whilst ignoring how the f people like Michelle money get £200 million contract with not even a company set up.
Not a word as the next generation of Eton attenders and their ilk embed in UK class structure with our money
Michael o hun your gullible and not read at all.all that is left for ignorance like yourself is racism.even the people of Batley thought he was playing his racist(brexit) masters tune.
Remember vermin refugees are welcome at Celtic,racist vermin like you are not.
Remember four pro racist post a few weeks back complementing those seeking to stop rnli life rescue.
Racists are not welcome at Celtic
Not that Scum like you go anyway
martin o'seville on
Bernie’s Tweets (@BernieSpofforth) Tweeted:
NEW ZEALAND – Still sticking to the 0 Covid policy, NZ enters a red zone with 24 days self isolation. 24 DAYS!
Wee torn faces bloodline sister must’ve heard that she too will be on trial at the Hague.
The sooner the better CSC
An Tearmann on
MARTIN O’SEVILLE on 23RD JANUARY 2022 10:46 PM
Ange ball?
The Celtic way?
Park the bus and mug them back?
What?
=====/
Not telling you hun scum
Tims know
Stuck in a moment you can’t get out of
martin o'seville on
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 10:58 PM
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Whatever.
So, evidence of the Kelly’s dipping the till?
An Tearmann on
Does Georges heid flap?
An Tearmann on
Att:21,000.
40,000 lifted over.
Think yi better get the unelectable Georges election lawyer onto that..
I believe yi.r
martin o'seville on
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 11:01 PM
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If Tims know, then it be better to tell Ange, don’t you think?
Or is withholding evidence strictly an SNP thingy?
An Tearmann on
Martin are you youtube phobic? Lol
Is Georges heid torn? Does zhe sleepover his flap?
martin o'seville on
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 11:05 PM
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Your SNP / Nat mindset is fueling you’re posts with who knows what.
Better going to bed.
martin o'seville on
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 11:07 PM
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Again dunno what you’re saying.
martin o'seville on
Zzzzzzzzz
An Tearmann on
Martin o rent boy
Which bit of the English language do you not understand
Never voted snp in my life rent boy?
Tell me rent boy
Was it Russian TV that got you into the failed topic hoor?
Or was it a passing interest in workers parties funded by brexit supporting tories.
How very individual and upper class riding the working class like you.but your unionist have no confidence and will change your tag in a min,so deserve the thoro pounding the brexit racists give you.
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Chairbhoy
There is no doubt an appetite in Scotland to eliminate what they look upon as sectarian.
I agree and I agree that this majority opinion thought the OBaF Act would deliver this. They swallowed the line that was pushed- that this would even up the score and get the fenian side in trouble as much as the Orange side, Of course, they never dreamed that anybody would be arresting any fans singing anti-English songs at Scotland matches, or songs of tribal rivalry between fans of Morton v St Mirren, Hamilton v Well, Ayr v Killie, Hearts v Hibs, St. Johnstone v Dundee United, Falkirk v Dunfermline or Aberdeen against either Celtic or Sevco. They thought it was all about that Irish thing – you know Ulster stuff- and it won’t affect us because we are not sectarian, we are not bigoted or prejudiced or tribal or adversarial. Ours is just banter about paedophilia and the like or how Cowdenbeath folk smell
The stats produced by the OBa F convictions did not back this up with only a moderate increase in convictions for Celtic supporters and a massive one for Sevcoites and an inexplicable number for Falkirk after a fight at a railway station.
In 2017, Sevco fans received 110 charges, Hibs (with no rebel songs) got 101, and Celtic had 60.
Overall 66% of all charges cited an alleged Hate Crime, 58% alleged a target against Religion (75% of this was antii- Catholicism) and 6% and 2% were for Race and Sexual Orientation offences.
What is clear is that your assertion that the rebs have a clear sectarian intent was not proven in law and I would argue, with this evidence, that this is due to the sonbook being largely non-sectarian and provably so.
Your attempts to prove that the rebs are sectarian has floundered on this rock time and time again. When Ray McAreavy posted his powerful condemnation of the disrespectful use of wall to wall rebs at Celtic games, on Sentinel Celts, you were not brave enough then to tell him that his life’s work and his songs were sectarian. So why are you on here trying to prove that point?
We all accept and condemn the RITG add on- not one dissenter is to be found on here for that. There are many of us who share the condemnation for the sheer boring repetition of the songbook and the provocative use to which it is put but the solution is not to moan and wring hands on here. Be brave enough to sing over it or whistle it down. You’ll soon find out what the views of the (silent) majority is. I’ll even promise to join in with this but do not ask me to accept that the rebs are all sectarian or that there is anything honourable about singing sectarian songs in private amongst our “own kind” but not in public amongst others, because I find that the worst sort of hypocrisy.
I would like to see songs of Irish Republicanism reduced but I do not want them to disappear and I will never find them shameful, apart form the overt anti-protestant add ons which shames RITG.
I don’t feel the Green Brigade are responsible for those add ons either (it is against all the things they articulate on their site) but a younger crowd attracted to their colour but unaware of their views, have re-introduced this egged on by the same group who organise and signal each other to disrupt any match day Remembrance Events (those who have attended away matches know who is doing this and I’ll give you two clues- It is not the GB and it is not our Irish travelling support).
If I know who this group is, then our club allocating away toclets know who it is and can effectively intervene. Dare I say it in the same way that the Ibrox club cracked down on those fans from EK supporters buses who “disgraced” them.
How’s that for an ecumenical reach out?
I think we need to be careful about complaining that Clancy has been dropped because they complained.
We need stats to show how often Clancy has been rested or dropped from a SPFL 6 match list before we know if this is unusual- we cannot go off half cocked if it is as innocent as the SFA says it is.
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 8:48 PM
“““““““““““““
You say the Kelly’s dipped the till.
I say the Kelly’s allowed a third 1/3 of the crowd, who knows maybe more than that, to be lifted over the turn style.
I, and anyone else who went to see Celtic when the Kelly’s were in charge can testify that the crowd attendance figures were out of sync, because of the kindness afforded to Celtic support, by the Kelly’s.
You say the Kelly’s dipped the till, can you prove that?
Ffs now the Kelly’s were hero’s
Off to ma scratcher
D :)
Hyrvatsi Jim @3:49
this gentleman might not be welcome at Ibrox
but he will be at the BBC sports desk, if you
get my thoughts
Not on here often these days – in my opinion both of the injuries on Sunday are on Ange.
Halliday’s shocking challenge on our captain at Tynecastle; Power’s challenge on Turnbull (?) at CP; Butcher’s challenge on Turnbull at Tannadice … and not a single peep from our manager.
If you accept these type of challenges, then they will carry on regardless – now we have Calum and possibly Guchi injured for several weeks.
These challenges should have been called out by Ange from day one – not quietly avoided by someone who supposedly speaks his mind, and is known for putting the journos in their place!
FLEAGLE1888 on 23RD JANUARY 2022 10:12 PM
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Agreed 100%. 👍
A tribe of dumbfkery Dan’s.
On February 2, we will be without Rogic and Maeda on international duty, and Callum, Hideguchi and possibly Abada and Kyogo through injury. A repeat of official sanction of brutality by Cheatin’ Beaton on Wednesday could be devastating to us.
The Zombies will be without Fat Charlie, but will have Aribo and Roofe available in February. They are just unbelievably jammy.
MARTIN O’SEVILLE on 23RD JANUARY 2022 10:16 PM
A tribe of dumbfkery Dan’s.
And everyone of them a Celtic fan unlike your confused hun self
Away ye go and watch fantasy george like the Kellys gone
Like Brian eh av nae money really dempsey-gone
Continuity over being shat out- gone
You can change history- its gone
You can change your politics pending who you whore to george falls away.but gullible saps like you think he is working(funded by who) class.no class vermin
When you are down,someone will kick you in the Nuts.We lose our Captain.They get their best player back,Aribo,due to a shock result.
Deary me.
U2 stuck in a moment you can’t get out of
https://youtu.be/8pSvpaMrClw
Night Celts
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 10:29 PM
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Still no evidence of the Kelly’s till dipping?
Or is it just you’re SNP mindset speaking, were dipping, and thieving, and much worse than that, becomes the norm?
Bono is an illuminati puppet sell out.
Deary me!
If Galloway is funded by Russia?
Who is wee torn face funded by?
Big Wavy,
Don’t think we will be swing Kyogo against them.
Seeing.
A win at Tynecastle will be huge for us. We will field a team with 8 Tynecastle virgins. Never easy at that bitter little cesspit.
If Hearts park the bus like Livi, St Mirren, 4 European trophies José, etc, etc, what should Ange’s approach be?
Ange ball?
The Celtic way?
Park the bus and mug them back?
What?
Martin o confidence missing
Torn face who is that?
Is that a top down view of your topic hoor.
Never voted for snp in my life unionist vermin
At every turn you are on the same side as the cheating rancid hun,a daily diet of ignore Boris and his Eton set
Failed talk by the failed Russian funded topic hoor
That independence will cost
Whilst ignoring how the f people like Michelle money get £200 million contract with not even a company set up.
Not a word as the next generation of Eton attenders and their ilk embed in UK class structure with our money
Michael o hun your gullible and not read at all.all that is left for ignorance like yourself is racism.even the people of Batley thought he was playing his racist(brexit) masters tune.
Remember vermin refugees are welcome at Celtic,racist vermin like you are not.
Remember four pro racist post a few weeks back complementing those seeking to stop rnli life rescue.
Racists are not welcome at Celtic
Not that Scum like you go anyway
Bernie’s Tweets (@BernieSpofforth) Tweeted:
NEW ZEALAND – Still sticking to the 0 Covid policy, NZ enters a red zone with 24 days self isolation. 24 DAYS!
Utter madness.
#Covid_19 #ZeroCovid
https://t.co/P7oTpRylnL https://twitter.com/BernieSpofforth/status/1485177966577471490?s=20
“““““
Wee torn faces bloodline sister must’ve heard that she too will be on trial at the Hague.
The sooner the better CSC
MARTIN O’SEVILLE on 23RD JANUARY 2022 10:46 PM
Ange ball?
The Celtic way?
Park the bus and mug them back?
What?
=====/
Not telling you hun scum
Tims know
Stuck in a moment you can’t get out of
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 10:58 PM
“““““““““““““
Whatever.
So, evidence of the Kelly’s dipping the till?
Does Georges heid flap?
Att:21,000.
40,000 lifted over.
Think yi better get the unelectable Georges election lawyer onto that..
I believe yi.r
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 11:01 PM
““““““““““““`
If Tims know, then it be better to tell Ange, don’t you think?
Or is withholding evidence strictly an SNP thingy?
Martin are you youtube phobic? Lol
Is Georges heid torn? Does zhe sleepover his flap?
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 11:05 PM
“““““““““““““
Your SNP / Nat mindset is fueling you’re posts with who knows what.
Better going to bed.
AN TEARMANN on 23RD JANUARY 2022 11:07 PM
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Again dunno what you’re saying.
Zzzzzzzzz
Martin o rent boy
Which bit of the English language do you not understand
Never voted snp in my life rent boy?
Tell me rent boy
Was it Russian TV that got you into the failed topic hoor?
Or was it a passing interest in workers parties funded by brexit supporting tories.
How very individual and upper class riding the working class like you.but your unionist have no confidence and will change your tag in a min,so deserve the thoro pounding the brexit racists give you.
Michael of no confidence
Why are you a falloway rent boy
Farting out your racism?
Refugees are welcome racist huns like you are not
IRISH MEN will set them Matk McGhee,
Snp mindset
Never voted for them in my life,please seed that in the core of your scum unionist cranium
Michael o no confidence,how many of team fall o way are on here?
There’s you Michael o no confidence,Park the bus and have no confidence,jhb – just a hun boz up.
Vermin crawling all over this Celtic site
DEARIE ME,
wonder if the fella was part of the right wing group identified as being on the anti-vax protest
Hello again all you young rebels.
HOT SMOKED
Just caught up with your post about me giving the wee Aussie
wumman a Scottish kiss and not a Glesga kiss 😂
She might have been in her eighties but she still looked fit
enough to put me on ma erse 🥰
Another fantastic Celtic Sunday in the Dub, big Ritchie our
music maestro in great form with some great new material
And we even got half a verse of the…Glasgow Cat… from
PADDYMACOZ before he forgot the words of the rest of the
song🤣
H H. Mick
Rangers Ladies came from behind to beat Hibs 2:1 today and remain at the top of the table, thanks to a “debatable penalty” , the BBC says