“Celtic suffer double transfer blow as they are priced out of moves for Scotland duo Steven Fletcher and Ikechi Anya.” Fantasy stuff from a guy at the Record who was chased from Celtic Park a long time ago and hasn’t been allowed back since.
No offence to Ikechi, but if Peter Lawwell sanctioned the payment of £4m to a guy who is in and out the Watford team he’d be the next one chased out of Celtic Park. He is categorically not a person of interest.
They’ve also got the story on Steven Fletcher wrong. Sunderland are keen on Virgil van Dijk and know Celtic are looking for a striker. The English club were up for using Fletcher as a make-weight but we confirmed here two weeks ago this scenario was dead before it got off the ground. Celtic didn’t even ask to speak to Fletcher, never mind inquire about his wage demands. Celtic need Virgil for the qualifiers and need a striker for the qualifiers. The deal was not contemplated at any wage level, Sunderland knew this from the off.
Sunderland paid £12m for Fletcher and are coughing up £48k per week wages, not the £60k reported this morning. Getting the wages figure right is easy, just ask someone who was involved, and it wouldn’t change the parsimonious Celtic agenda. The fact that Fletcher’s wage figure is wrong tells you the quality of the source. He’s a good enough player but he’s a totem of so much that’s wrong in English football.
Today’s ‘news’ is as old as I am: ‘Rangers’ ‘immediately stepped in with a bid which has been accepted’, Celtic are ‘priced out of moves’. It’s what it looks like, the fantasy of a man who’s banned from Celtic Park.
God help this poor Irish lad if he makes it through his medical, the weight of expectation will be heavy on his shoulders soon enough. I seriously didn’t get where they were coming from with that ‘Fear no Foe’ business, b.t.w. The world’s changed so much.
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Robert88
indeed the very first treaty made by those national socialists was with the vatican
canamalar
I’ve heard the bombers one that’s a myth
The Vatican one I’m afraid not. It’s an inconvenient truth but hey ho.
Skyisfillwithshit
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EWO
We are moving forward as a team, both tactically, and by the players that we are signing,
Some of our supporters are finding this new
regime hard to take,
and the SMSM haven’t a clue who we are signing, so they make it up to keep the red top buying super score board believers happy,
Well if you wanna go, K.A.N.O ., Hail Hail , Rain , Sleet or Snow
Grow bags for CQN coarner for the wee yins tae stand in :))))))))))))))
DesertBhoy, from earlier, did you miss-spell quiet?
:-)
67 a winner on pointless
HH
Robert88,
I expect you’ll find that myth is from the same post war British source who still tell the world the Vatican supported the holocaust, irrespective of the facts being made public by Israel.
leftclicktic
16:57 on
18 June, 2015
Seen on twitter
From the DR on Tues
“Warburton will be at Rang*rs for the next 48 hours as he pulls together plans for pre-season before leaving for a *UEFA Licence course*”.
From Sevco official page 3hrs ago
“Warburton Headed To Euros”
:)))))
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From Evening Standard :
“While he thinks about his future, the 52-year-old will spend nine days in the Czech Republic as part of the FA UEFA Pro Licence coaching course.
“It will be a good experience,” he said. “I am looking forward to continuing my education, that is what the course is about. We will watch a number of games out there and there are a lot of people you can learn from and pick their brains”
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/former-brentford-manager-mark-warburton-to-travel-to-european-under21-championship-as-he-ponders-next-move-10297700.html
Doc
17:54 on
18 June, 2015
DesertBhoy, from earlier, did you miss-spell quiet?
:-)
…. possibly… effin ipad!
mahe the madman…
You should point the red neck to follow follow, he would be in his element….then again, he might shoot you if you’re wearing a Celtic top ;))
SANNABHOY
‘Extra large watch face with built in s cot rail app so BMCUW doesn’t miss his train.’
I suggest it also has one of those ‘In case of emergency,break glass’ thingies wi a hammer in it. You can then batter lumps outa me when I cock it up again.
Warburton, 110 years behind Johnny Madden.
Sannabhoy
A santa claus outfit and a sack for our generous Dubliner Almore. :)
Sips,,funny enough I’ve got him into the hoops. Turned to me not long ago and say I’ve got a new name for izzaguire,,,Izzy! Redneck or not he loves wearing the hoops shirt I gave him. He was gutted when sammi left,,much more than me.
canamalar
Hmm not quite all the information you need is out there from reliable sources and historical fact and things that actually took place.
Is this the same myth hitler was an atheist? But never renounced his catholic upbringing and catholic faith?
The very same man who in his own memoirs wrote he is fulfilling the will of a Christian God?
The same man who had on every German soldiers belt inscribed ‘ with God on our side’
I could go on but the Vatican had a cosy affair with them.
Look what happened after an assassination attempt, look out for the catholic priest who hailed gods intervention for saving hitler. Or words to that affect.
You’re right all myth.
Doc… effin ipad has a mind of its own..
meant to be quiet possibly!
Regarding the Catholic Church and the names an agreement was signed by the German church/Vatican and the national state to grant catholicism the same status as the established protestant faith. Through out the war the Pope actively worked to protect members of the Jewish faith by use of church influence at state level and church money. Buildings etc. at local level. Index so grateful was the Chief Rabbi of Rome for the Vatican’s help he converted to catholicism after the war ended. Also the Israeli holocaust memorial organisation Van Yashem (?) have stated that the Pope was not complicit in the holocaust and actively helped Jews escape persecution
There is also the story of Monsignor O’Flaherty who hid escaped Allied POWS and Jews ironically he befriended the gestapo officer who had tried to catch and kill him after the war whilst he was in prison for war crimes
The guy really loved the “turn the other cheek” thing.
The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for but the nazis and the holocaust are not on their heads.
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Robert88
Wikipedia disagrees.
In the 20th century, Christians have been persecuted by various groups, and by atheistic states such as the USSR and North Korea. During the Second World War members of many Christian churches were persecuted in Germany for resisting the Nazi ideology. Hitler expressed a desire to destroy the influence of Christian churches within the Third Reich, seeing it as absurdity and nonsense founded on Jewish lies. He planned to do this after the war, and not during it, believing “that suited his immediate political purposes”.
Canamalar
Sadly, while Robert88 is not entirely right, he is not entirely wrong either.
I agree that there is a lot of uninformed nonsense written about the Church’s role in WWII, but there is no doubt that the Church did sign the Concordat with the German Reich in 1933. I do not accept the allegations that those in charge (inlcuding some who went on to become Popes) were fascists, or fascist sympathizers (although some involved at the time clearly were), but there is little doubt that they most were terrified of the ‘red menance’. The thinking behind the Church’s dealings with the Reich was, based on an older ecclesiology, to save the Church at all costs. Unfortunately, some of the things that were done as a result (including agreeing to the oath of allegiance to the German government, lifting the ban on membership in the Nazi party and agreeing to abstain from politics) came to be highly problematic when (i) the nazi government did not live up to its obligations, and (ii) the full extent of nazi atrocities became known.
If you are interested in this period of the Church’s histroy, there is a professor of systematic theology at Notre Dame who has done a lot of writing about the Church in Germany during this period … Robert Krieg. I haven’t looked at his stuff in a while, but as I recall he was a fairly honest, warts and all scholar.
HT & a few others :)))))
Happy teachers day
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Looks like one Striker Away ?
Brondby have convinced Celtic to lower their price for striker Teemu Pukki and should confirm his signing in the next few days.
The Danish giants took Pukki on a season-long loan from Celtic last summer, agreeing a purchase option as part of the deal which secured his services.
But despite the Finn impressing during his loan stint with Brondby, the club have been unwilling to meet Celtic’s asking price for Pukki, which they deem too high.
Now, following intense talks between the two clubs, Brondby have knocked Celtic down, according to Danish daily Ekstra Bladet, and Pukki is staying
Brondby are now expected to be in a position to confirm Pukki’s permanent signing within the next few days.
It is thought the Danish Superliga side are paying around £480,000 to snap up the former Schalke striker.
Celtic had been looking for closer to £760,000 to part with Pukki.
The striker scored 13 goals in 34 games for Brondby this season.
Robert88
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_resistance_to_Nazi_Germany.
Quite funny really….
Despise the smsm for made up, partial,incomplete,biased and/or fictional stories….
But….
Repeat, endorse,promote, emphasise the Nazi/church equivalents….
You couldn’t make it up….(well…actually….)
Slapforeheadcsc
MIKEINTORONTO
Since yer on,wee gig you might enjoy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4_z221y8TOs
cowiebhoy
18:35 on 18 June, 2015
What did we pay for him ?
The MSM would have us believe that Pukki was signed by us for 3.5 million
According to Lennon himself, the true figure was 2 million.
Either way, cut our losses. I’d accept 500k also… As Pukki is a flower girl
LENNON’S PASSION
It was reported at the time as £2m,but Neil Lennon said none of our signings that summer were more than £1m.
RUGGYMAN
My memory is slightly different,haha!
Anyway,he never looked likely to succeed at Celtic.
BMCUWP …. I dont think I have heard that before. Two of my favourites! thanks! got it playing in the background now…. but it deserves my full attention.
I am off to see Lloyd Cole tonight, but am looking forward to setting time aside this weekend to give that a listen….. cheers.
Same applies with Boeriggter…
Papers went to lengths saying Boeriggter was 3million wasted by Celtic.
Lennon again stated that Boeriggter was around the million mark.
BMCUWP
Yeah Lennon was fairly scathing of the media representation of our transfer outlay.
I definately think the most was splashed out on Pukki…
2mil, thereabouts.
Boeriggter approx. 1 mil
And Big Balde was around 1.2…
which would make sense as a budget of around 4mil sounds about right.
Tough luck for those of ”the Papacy can di no wrong” persusion: the 1933 Reichskonkordat was very real, very early in the history of Nazi diplomacy, and (in retrospect) the beginning of the failure of the Catholic church to provide moral leadership in Germany. On the other hand it can fairly be said that the Zentrum vote held resolutely steady during the Weimar period; the Catholic population , along with folk of communist inclination, just didn’t vote Nazi. German Tims, if we may call them that, were socially conservative, but they just didn’t buy into the NSDAP kool-aid until the very last.
Unfortunately, the Reichskonordat is a classic example of the Vatican behaving as a nation state; things are different now (one hopes).
MIKEINTORONTO
Handy heard it myself;it came up on the sidebar from some you recommended a few days back. So really,the credit is yours!
Mike in t….,
As Own said
“Regarding the Catholic Church and the names an agreement was signed by the German church/Vatican and the national state to grant catholicism the same status as the established protestant faith.”
The concordat was an agreement to get equal rights for Catholicos and nothing else, it was not in support of hitler.
A great deal of trouble and money has gone into creating myth and lies about the Vatican’s role in WWII.
To date there are still clergy supporting socialism and fascism all over the world, the clergy are still only human and individuals do not speak for the church, only the pope can do that and Pius was one of the few outspoken critics of hitler and the nazi party, even before he became the pontiff.
I think, could be wrong, if they quote £3m this includes the salary in the deal, so total cost of deal, transfer fee and wages ?
Paul 67, great news if that sports reporter of the year (-:)))) )Jackson is banned from Celtic Park, hope there is more of them, who we have not been informed about, this should include whoever it was that tried to hijack the New Balance announcement and promotion
BMCUWP ….. I never learned to read music, so a lot of jazz stuff goes way over my head … my love of it is more of a ‘feel in in my gut’ kind of thing …. and Coltrane (along with the recently deceased Coleman) are two of the most hard to understand (at least for me) …. but, from the first time I heard “A Love Supreme’, it just spoke to me in a way that very few other pieces of art ever have …. combines two of my great loves (religion and music)
Canamalar ….
My thesis was on ecclesiology and church-state relations in modern Europe (from VI onwards), so it is an area in which I am pretty comfortable … However, I recognize that this is such a sensitive and nuanced areas that it is easy to oversimplify and/or misrepresent and/or offend far too easily. And really, trying to deal with such an issue in short posts (as I admit I just did) does the discussion and the Church a disservice …. so, out of respect for the issue and the feelings of fellow posters, I will respectfully bow out of this discussion online. Of course, should you wish to continue the discussion off line, feel free to get my email from P67.
Respect.