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On Friday, after the Sparta debacle, I predicted, “There is worse to come”, it did not take long.  Losing at home by two goals to Ross County is worse than losing by three goals away to Sparta Prague.  If you were surprised, you have not been paying attention, Ross County were a punter’s dream.  Celtic are dysfunctional, vulnerable to anyone prepared to put their bodies in the way and take their chance at corner kicks.

The biggest concern I have is the message the players get from persistently overhauling roles and tactics; going from four at the back, to three, to four and back to three.  Add to this how Christie and Elyounoussi play a variety of roles: wide, middle, off the striker, and we shuffle between one and two up front.

If you are a player, you interpret this as, “We have no faith in our plan and we don’t know what to do about it.”  At least in this respect, the manager, players, you and me all believe the same thing.

When will it end?  Soon, I hope.  St Johnstone visit in six days and they are more potent than Ross County.

Reports of missiles being thrown at our players outside Celtic Park yesterday evening beggars belief.  Across the world, on a variety of issues, you see anger whipped up in online echo chambers.  This has consequences: some bring that anger into their personal interactions, some gather to demonstrate.

A smaller percentage of them have no boundaries.  Fuelled by the echo chamber and the crowd around them, they resort to violent acts, which Mr Angry behind his keyboard can condemn.  The violence is a consequence of entitled anger and together they make it more difficult to resolve the situation.  Imagine how you would react if you were a player?

A football team has come off the rails after winning a record 11 consecutive domestic trophies.  For a club that has known so many hard times, it was a pitiful bookend to this historic period.

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  1. Has anyone ever been any evidence that Paul67 is colluding with Peter Lawwelll?

     

     

    because its repeated on here multiple times everybody just seems to assume it must be true,

     

     

    I’m not sayings it’s not true just have never seen any hard evidence.

  2. ROCK TREE BHOY on 30TH NOVEMBER 2020 5:30 PM

     

    Has anyone ever been any evidence that Paul67 is colluding with Peter Lawwelll?

     

     

     

     

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    Res 12 article.

  3. Squire D – Its poor.

     

     

    Saturday football is like Hens teeth.

     

     

    I thought it was the club that asked for the fixture to be moved? No?

     

     

    D :)

  4. Saint Stivs. 5.27.

     

    I’ve told this tale before.

     

    The year, we stopped the ten, as you will know, we lost our first two games.

     

    A dejected figure ( that would be me ) visited my mum, after the home Dunfermline game.

     

    She said she felt that we would still do it and asked me to find out the odds.

     

    No internet bookies, back then. I walked up to Hills 1/20 Rangers 8/1 Celtic.

     

    Came back and told her, she asked me to put a fiver on Celtic at 8/1.

     

    She never mentioned again and I wasn’t going to either, at the risk of tempting fate,until we drew with Dunfermline.

     

    She produced the slip and said take it and spend it with your friends, after we beat St Johnstone, we will win, she said.

     

    The weird thing is, she knew I was going to East end Park and never gave me it that week, I asked her later and she said, she felt we were destined to win it, at home.

     

    So, get you bet on and be lucky!!!!!!

  5. If a game is moved from Saturday to a Monday (first game after Ibrox btw),have we given up on getting fans in to the park? Surely easier to facilitate at the weekend in daylight?

  6. JNP

     

     

    that had me welling up a wee bit, god bless your mam.

     

     

    i think i need to stop watching christmas films every day, i am turing into a softy.

  7. Saint Stivs. 5.45.

     

    Thanks for kind response.

     

    I would never have you down as a softy.

     

    My mum is 82 now, the bad news is, she’s not asked me what odds Celtic are, yet…..

  8. JIMMYNOTPAUL on 30TH NOVEMBER 2020 5:53 PM

     

     

    Mammies!!! God love them!!

     

     

    David 66

     

     

    I’m just surmising as there is no Greatestleagueintheworld games that weekend which means Sky will give SPL airtime

  9. prestonpans bhoys on

    AN DÚN on 30TH NOVEMBER 2020 5:49

     

     

    Would not be surprised if parts or even all of the top tier is shut

  10. AN TEARMANN

     

     

    My thought are all over the place now. I just cannot understand how some Celtic fans could be so disrespectful and vindictive towards Neil Lennon.

     

    I just never saw that coming and would not have believed it possible, even allowing for high emotions.

     

     

    I know we are not all angels, but this gobsmacked me. Much more than the actual game.

     

     

    Make no mistake, it will be used against us by our enemies. High profile over exaggerated arrests will follow and reported with glee. We will be used as an example of why OB 2 or hate crime is necessary.

     

    You have seen the footage. Most of the crowd were of an age where they have never experienced anything but a sucessfull and winning Celtic team.

     

    Collectively we are not entitled to anything. In football or in general society.

     

     

    However most of my anger is reserved to certain players as well as PL and DD.

     

    Players who have chucked it cannot be allowed to continue as normal no matter who is in charge of our team.

     

     

    Even if it means we have a fire sale and start from scratch. This is more than just losing cups or the 10 now.

     

    It should be a privilege to wear the Celtic shirt, some of these players do not deserve that privilege and it should be removed.

     

     

    Cheers and HH.

  11. that Dunfermline game,

     

     

     

    my , youngest brother, and wee cousin all went through early early without tickets, we split up to try find some, in and out the pubs, waiting on the busses, and at the park, but no joy, we wandered the streets and a big park that had hundreds of tims in it, back at the park we got in when they opened the gates convinced we would score a winner, but we know we didnt.

     

     

    i was totally gutted

     

     

    on the way back we went through a load of villages on the north side of the forth, huns all out the pubs giving us nice waves, aye right,

     

     

    we came up to a set of traffic lights, and i had a half empty lucozade bottle, told brother put the windae doon,

     

     

    ffs stphen dont day anything daft there is loads of them,

     

     

    papped, and the chase starts, …………

     

     

    i forgot about the next set of light further up the road, and sat anxiously as i could see a determined few do a waddling run after us ,

     

     

    hahahhaha

     

     

    memories eh.

  12. HOT SMOKED on 30TH NOVEMBER 2020 3:21 PM

     

    TOSB

     

     

    Not having a go at you here but the image engendered when reading this was funny ,

     

     

     

    “not all supporters were throwing missives.”

     

    ………………

     

     

    Hahaha! Missives! Maybe the Board and CEO were tossing missives at each other.

     

     

    Thanks for putting me right. I never noticed my error.

  13. I don’t think any influence of DD, PL or Machiavelli was behind the provision of two separate questions to the FM at her coronavirus briefing today.

     

     

    It was entrirely preictable that the rest of Scotland would react to the news of a large abusive gathering at CP, during a Covid lockdown, with disgust, bemusement and a desire for sanction.

     

     

    The fans of other clubs, other sports and non sports-followers in this country, cannot understand why such a successful club saw such a level of protest over being knocked out of one cup and being in danger of losing their first league for a decade. Apart from the rabid Ibrox crew and a few others who were out for sporting sanctions to be applied, the rest of Scottish society just sees such behaviour as entitled, spoiled and immature.

     

     

    And they did not need to be tolld this by the tabloids, the MSM or SNP headquarters. They worked out this attitude for themselves using their own existing biases and confirmations. In the eyes of Scotland, we looked either bad or comical last night.

     

     

    Now, that’s not the main reason, that I am in disagreement with the protest. As someone who attended a BLM march during the initial lockdown period, I cannot even take a moral ground or use Covid to criticise (though, in its defence, the BLM march was socially distanced, responsible and well run in Glasgow).

     

     

    The main reason for the difference was the BLM protest was organised, stewarded, had shared aims and was prepared. Last night’s do had no such coherence and planning and ended up descending quicly into a rabble. Imitating a European Ultra movement, it looked to get some engagement with their footballing heroes and an opportunity to deliver their home truths to those they favour and to barrack and attack those who they judge unfit to play for their team. Without clear aims, beyond this, it was always gonna descend into chaos and riot, just as it did with other Ultra protests.

     

     

    Did they really expect to gain an audience?

     

     

    To conduct a small scale discussion with members of the team?

     

     

    A fair proportion of the crowd behaved themselves but they are not the story today. A number wanted a visible protest and they got that and more. But some came for trouble and , if they did not get it , would lead by example.

     

     

    Our own social media may see this as righteous anger but we live in the detached pro-Celtic bubble and that is not how the RoS sees it. They see it as spoiled , selfish and entitled, and nothing will be done to reframe that, certainly not balaming CQn or any particular celtic Blog.

     

     

    Nicola Sturgeon did not rise to the tabloid bait today; in fact, she tried to paint herself as one who was incapable of bias within or against football. It looked to me, despite the protests of fan-bhoys Squire D and Timmy-7, that she was aware of the criticism re the commendation letter and wasn’t going to go down a partisan route tonight. SHe will simply store this up and use it as evidence agaist us the next time we dare question the government.

     

     

    End result- the protest last night is seen as a massive own goal in the eyes of the Scottish public and in the eyes of the governing party that will receive the most votes from the over 16s who attended that mob protest.

     

     

    It is the first protest I have seen at CP since 2 drunk guys stayed after a match in the Deila era to shout abuse, from the concourse, at fellow Celts in the Hospitality Suite whom they imagined to be Board members.

     

     

    Ask all the guys who showed up last night to turn up for an organised protest on Res 12 or LNS and you would be lucky to get 1 person as an overlap between the two protests

     

     

    I have no complaint with people who want the Board or manager removed nor with organised protest.

     

     

    But I do stand apart from those who showed up last night. That was not in my name.

  14. I’ve said on here since that fateful day when Lennon was re-hired on the cheap that it was a mistake, I have also risked the wrath of PBs self-appointed blog police when I’ve questioned Paul’s staunch support of NLs mismanagement of our team. What is most depressing however, is the sheer number of relatively new names on here that are happy to chase off anyone whose views challenge that of the host.

     

    What’s the point in writing a blog if only the most obsequious are allowed to respond?

  15. Oh Jeezo

     

     

    I must be on the naughty step.

     

     

    No working shown and now I’m a fanboy.

     

     

    Now in the realms of the thought police.

     

     

    Can’t disagree that she did not get the boot in but but AYE BUT she’s saving it up to give us a kicking in future.

     

     

    Unbelievable

  16. Dempster said the Hibs game has been moved to the Monday, despite Hibs saying that they wouldn’t agree to it being moved…

  17. STV reporting 48 hours to reach a decision and an agreement, that will be the stock exchange timelines coming in, so something is happening.

     

     

    Police vans sitting gaurd on the celtic way, next to big billy is a pathetic sight on tv.

     

     

    as was the police van at lennoxtown today.

     

     

    under seige by our own fans, cmon tae f

  18. Gene

     

     

    The Government will stall on a public enquiry until all the relevant parties are deceased.

     

    The decision to attack Mr Finucane went to the very heart and head of the government of the day.

     

    A minister replying to questions from unionist mps warned lawyers and solicitors working for republicans that they were putting themselves “too close” to the people they were defending.

     

    That was taken as a green light by those in our security services in the north to go ahead and sanction murder!

     

    Just like the decision to murder the three volunteers in Gibraltar, Thatcher had her hand in it but so too did the people around her and some of them are still alive!

  19. SFTB

     

     

    Agreed. I marched in Louisville during lockdown. Mask, distanced etc. To wake up the next day and see a minority had taken the front pages was incredibly sad.

     

     

    Others will strike me down but last night was a shambles and nothing to be proud of. We are hated enough already, why give them ammo to strike us down. Be smart, be organised and during a pandemic be careful.

     

     

    Our gaffer has been through enough in his life and would have been hurting. GTF chants cannot be forgiven. That’s what thems do.

  20. Forget what happened last night it should not have happened but the deal issue’s are inside Celtic park.

     

     

    A few frustrated fans arguing with sevco finest oh sorry Strathclyde’s finest.

     

     

    Is Lenny gone yet?

     

     

    Are they haggling over a payout? If so shocking.

     

     

    D :)

  21. I am reminded that some Italian ultras get tooled wi baseball bats and visit the training ground when their team is not winning. Things could be worse for our overpaid wasters.

  22. Squire D

     

     

    Your response was predictable, though.

     

     

    Faux offence and sarcasm.

     

     

    Unbelievable to believe it will be held against us- where’s yir evidence?

     

     

    I’ll give you mine-

     

     

    1) the threat to impose Strict Liability after we had the audacity to campaign and overturn the OBaF act

     

     

    2) The denunciation of Bolingoli and her OVERT pressure on football authorities to take action

     

     

    3) The letter of commendation to Sevco which she has not corrected, withdrawn or dissociated herself from, but definitely had an effect on her response today

     

     

    4)Humza getting a second chance with the new Hate Bill to add more mince on to the legislative slate when he had totally feckked up his last chance.

     

     

    Too right it’s unbelievable?

     

     

    Andit’s not the Naughty step you are occupying, it’s Cult Corner

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