Asset Management Day

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You and I are old enough to remember the grief when a star player left to go to England.  Today, with Odsonne Edouard’s anticipated departure, grief is replaced by relief.  This is nothing to do with the player’s ability, he will be missed on the field, but success on the grass is determined by the astuteness in the Asset Management game.  If Celtic are to enhance their chances with the former, they need to optimise the latter.  Eddie has to leave with financial compensation coming the other way.

Whatever Crystal Palace pay, a significant portion will to go Paris Saint-Germain (widely reported as 40%).  We paid €10m when the player signed permanently in 2018, so although the money will have an impact on current and future trading, we will scarcely break even on the player, a sign that his value (€10m plus sell-on clause) did not appreciate during his time in Glasgow.

Ryan Christie, like Stuart Armstrong three years ago, is one I hoped we would be able to hold onto.  Ryan spent three years going nowhere (if you discount loans to Inverness and Aberdeen) before he transformed Celtic when coming on as a halftime substitute against Hearts at Murrayfield in October 2018.  Celtic started that season poorly with Brendan Rodgers unable to conjure a fix until a series of injuries gave Ryan his chance.  He played a significant role in rescuing Celtic’s season, and Brendan’s reputation, as they secured the Treble Treble and remained a key player in the subsequent treble and European campaigns.

Money talks and Celtic players listen when wages above £50k per week are mentioned (Edouard will earn significantly above this).  With only six months left on his current deal, I doubt we will earn much for Ryan, but the principle remains the same; churn them before they leave for free.

Filipe Jota and Georgios Giakoumakis are waiting in the tunnel, so the ‘F5 hours’ should be busy.

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  1. DAVIDOPOULOS

     

    O.k. Found it, thank you. He’s a big unit – let’s see how he does. You don’t usually get capped by the US unless you can play a bit.

  2. If you’re into that sort of thing having Daniel Levy’s scalp in your first window isn’t too bad.

     

     

    A pretty good effort all round for Dom’s first window

  3. Sionnaigh

     

    Where is your sense of humour?

     

    We were linked with Fletcher for a load of transfer windows

     

    It’s not like I mentioned John McGinn

  4. SIONNAIGH

     

    I’m not sinking the boot in. I’m just genuinely puzzled why we leave negotiations to the last 30 minutes of a weeks long window, when one little slip up can leave you shit out of luck.

     

    I also realize that a lot of other clubs do the same.

  5. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    Cameron Carter-Vickers joins the Bhoys from

     

    @SpursOfficial

     

    on a season-long loan with an option to buy

     

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    Chuckled when I read the comment below the annoncement from a Spurs fan:

     

     

    “…Hate to break it but he’s not too good…”

     

     

    I want to see the sunshine after the rain… ;-))))

     

     

    HH

     

    BGFC

  6. I’d never heard of Cameron Carter Vickers and was hoping he was nearly 7 ft tall..

     

     

    Ange is gonnae do it his way.

     

     

    We are gonnae Witness a cracking Team develop.

     

     

    Njoi.

  7. For what it is worth….

     

     

    One of the sharpest cats I work with over here is a Spurs man, crazy smart data dude he tells me he likes CCV. Seen a fair amount of him.

     

     

    I see the dark side have hit his Wiki page already. Refreshed and it has been edited back.

  8. We don’t leave negotiations to the last 30 mins.

     

     

    It is not an active choice or preference.

     

     

    It is often the player himself, or his agent, or his selling club who want to exhaust all other options before they agree to Celtic’s offer.

     

     

    Most of our business is done before the last day but, in common with a long list of clubs, losts of business is doen on the final day because the deadline concentrates the mind.

     

     

    Players must face the prospect of another half season in the reserves. The selling club realises that it is not getting the fee it hoped to attract and settles for less and the buying club gets lucky because the clubs who were rivalling them for the player got their main target and did not have to setlle for the boy we bought.

     

     

    This stuff happens every transfer window. I am surprised it surprises anyone. Take a look at the final day signings and see if Celtic are disproportionately last minute…………. or are we playing the same game as everyone else.

  9. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Now the window is just about closed (do faxes still fall down the back of the furniture at the SFA?) ..

     

     

    … I’m off to bed.

     

     

    I wanted another body somewhere in the spine.

     

     

    Got one.

     

    (No idea how good he is)

     

     

    Cameron, Filipe, Giorgios ….

     

    Welcome to Celtic. Good luck lads.

     

     

    Leigh, Odsonne, Ryan ….

     

    Thank you and all the best.

     

     

    Ange – over to you and your staff.

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Keep The Faith

     

     

    We’re Not Half of Anything

     

     

    19-1

     

     

    We share a city AND NOTHING ELSE

  10. A seasoned ex England international goal keeper

     

    Croatian right full back

     

    Swedish international centre back

     

    USA international centre back

     

    Seasoned Irish international midfielder

     

    A leading emerging Irish utility defender

     

    Portuguese left side winger

     

    Top Japanese forward

     

    Emerging Israeli forward

     

    Eredeversie top scorer from last season

     

     

    Plus young emerging defensive and midfield talent.

     

     

    Marked improvement in rightand centre back academy graduates

     

    Wantaways moved on at a profit

     

     

    All new signings have a degree of uncertainty, but that’s not a bad start for Ange and the new CEO

  11. setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox

     

     

    Erm, that may be the case to an extent, but are we a stronger squad today than we were last September? And when it comes to doing business in January, is it going to be difficult to get players in? And next August? And the following January?

     

     

    Rinse and repeat until we all have luxuriant moustaches?

  12. Celtic40Me…”…having Daniel Levy’s scalp in your first window isn’t too bad.”

     

    Is that why Levy’s bald as a coot?

  13. fair play to Dom Mccay – credit where it due. Team is shaping up , players have already made a difference , players still to make their mark, players who want to be here and a center half for depth experience and cover (he’ only 6ft tho so we will need Julian back soon)

     

     

    well done Celtic and I’m sure more adjustment in January since we have money – unlike them

  14. So how many teams can we squeeze out of htis threadbare squad in a 4:2:3:1 formation

     

     

    Hart

     

     

    Juranovic

     

    Starfelt

     

    Welsh

     

    Taylor

     

     

    McGregor

     

    McCarthy

     

     

    Forrest

     

    Rogic

     

    Kyogo

     

     

    Makoukakis

     

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    Barkas

     

     

    Ralston

     

    Carter Vickers

     

    Jullien

     

    Montgomery

     

     

    Shaw

     

    Soro

     

     

    Abada

     

    Turnbull

     

    Jota

     

     

    Ajeti

     

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    Bain/Hazard

     

     

    Urogohide

     

    Murray

     

    Scales

     

    Bolingoli

     

     

    Bitton

     

    Connell

     

     

    Dembele

     

    Henderson

     

    Johnston

     

     

    ?? Joey Dawson or Owen Moffat

     

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    That still leaves us with an unused keeper from team 3, Kerr McInroy and all of the more promising B team guys Bosun Lawal, Ewan Otoo, Ben Wylie, Rocco Vata, Adam Brooks and the goalie- Oluwayemie

  15. WEEBOBBYCOLLINS

     

     

    It’s not on his wiki page but all Daniel Levy’s hair fell out the day he started as a rangers (ia) director. And his toenails and his Willy fell off.

  16. Davidopoulos

     

     

    “but are we a stronger squad today than we were last September? And when it comes to doing business in January, is it going to be difficult to get players in? And next August? And the following January?”

     

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    We are rarely a stroger team coming out of a transfer window than we were going into it. That’s because of our position in the food chain where any promising players are going to be tempted by big money transfers. We then try to replace them with players that we think can become as good but are not yet as good because, if they were the bigger clubs would have bought them instead of our best players.

     

     

    So we do rinse and repeat every year to attempt to replace the lost good players with decent players who can become good. That’s the same for every club outwith the top 20 big money clubs.

     

     

    In 12, 18 or 24 months we will, most likely, lose Kyogo, if he continues on the path he is on. Maybe some promising youngsters too.

     

     

    You can cry and wish that it were not so or you can try to recruit the best players from teams below you in the pecking order or steal players who have lost their way in being crowded out at the big clubs who are struggling to get into a 30 man squad of superstars.

     

     

    As always, choosing the right ones and avoiding the duds, the injured and the bad boy wasters is hte right way to go. If only we knew people who, like many of the pundits on here, never make a mistake- we could hire them and our recruitment would be more secure.

     

     

    Other than that, rinse and repeat is the only game in town.

     

     

    P.S. Just this once- the January window might be more valuable than usual if Ange’s rep in Japan can persuade a few more gems like Kyogo to give us a go.

  17. 12 new players signed.

     

    Players who didn’t want to be here moved on.

     

     

    A good positive transfer window

     

     

    HH, the journey continues.

  18. setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox

     

     

    As eloquent as your response is, that is a very simplified version of events. However, if that is your view of things then fair enough. i’m very limited on time so have to just leave this here. May our Celts prosper always…

  19. Big Georges Fan Club - Hail, Hail, Wee Oscar on

    Bob LobLaw – agree with that – well listed !

     

     

     

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    CELTIC40ME on 1ST SEPTEMBER 2021 12:30 AM

     

     

    It’s not on his wiki page but all Daniel Levy’s hair fell out the day he started as a rangers (ia) director. And his toenails and his Willy fell off.

     

     

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    Made me chuckle – ta :-))))

     

     

    Off to bed reflecting on what I think has been a realy good, but necessarilly frenetic (given what they’d been left with), initial period for Ange and Dominic.

     

     

    Much happier with where we are now – in particuler the positve direction I feel in which we are heading – especially in comparison with the utter car crash that was last year.

     

     

    Signings seem generally positive – will never be a 100% success rate but most look good, some look very good, one looks like a diamond.

     

     

    The last minute CCV loan looks positive – having done a wee bit of exploring he seems to have been a very positive influence when on loan to BBJ’s ‘The Swans’, Luton and Birmingham – fans very positive about his contribution.

     

     

    Also – most ‘want-aways’ have…well…went away (not all) – that also helps the mood and focus of the camp.

     

     

    All in all – happy with progress and looking forward to seeing what Ange can do with the tools at his disposal.

     

     

    Shopping spree – probably more focussed on quality rather than volume – in the antipodes and far east come January to further shape the squad in Ange’s image (well, in the image of his preferred style of football – not necessarily his own image, which is similar to my own, only he has more hair).

     

     

    HH

     

    BGFC

     

     

    …and he has a beard – I can’t seem to manage that – blidy mediterraneans!!! Anyway – both 55 (well, he just turned 56 last week, so I’m actually younger) and both could use a few more excercise sessions and a few less inches around the waist and chest.

     

     

    I better stop gibbering – I’m offski.

     

     

    Hail Hail – up the Celts!!!!!!!!!

  20. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Credit where due. Carter Vickers might just be the moment Dom changed the momentum in our favour. Seems exactly what’s needed. Ball playing, side of the house CH who looks like he pulls lorries in his spare time. I actually wonder if he’s Martim1980.

     

     

    Great pedigree too, coming through a proper big club.

     

     

    We badly needed some mettle in the team and some cover in central defence. Plenty of games to rotate players, so this shouldn’t set back Welsh’s development. 3 good centre halves now (I like Starfelt, who has excellent timing in the tackle), plus CJ won’t get rushed back prematurely.

     

     

    Has transformed my feelings about this window, though I’m still anxious we’re lightweight in midfield for the huns games.

     

     

    Much more like it though. See, the Board can make a profit and invest in the team if they choose to.

  21. GREENPINATA on 1ST SEPTEMBER 2021 12:47 AM

     

    12 new players signed.

     

     

    Players who didn’t want to be here moved on.

     

     

    A good positive transfer window

     

     

    HH, the journey continues.

     

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    Agree – however history shows that if 40% of incomers settle and are successful, you are doing well.

     

     

    If Ange can win the title this season, he is a miracle-worker, not a manager.

     

     

    I said when he came in that it would take three years, and I wondered would he get that long……I have not changed my mind.

  22. CELTIC49ME and SFTB

     

    Thank you for your clarifications. It appears that Spurs contacted Celtic at 11:00PM! The fact that they would do that is mind boggling to me. I guess, with a lifetime in strategic planning, this ad hoc, last minute stuff goes against the grain a little bit, but I guess it’s a fact of life, as SFTB states.

  23. BOB LOBLAW

     

    “A seasoned ex England international goal keeper

     

     

    Croatian right full back

     

     

    Swedish international centre back

     

     

    USA international centre back

     

     

    Seasoned Irish international midfielder

     

     

    A leading emerging Irish utility defender

     

     

    Portuguese left side winger

     

     

    Top Japanese forward

     

     

    Emerging Israeli forward

     

     

    Eredeversie top scorer from last season”

     

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    But, but…..the Huns bought Bacuna.

  24. JHB, “I said when he came in that it would take three years, and I wondered would he get that long……I have not changed my mind.” Save yer black ball for after our next meeting at Celtic Park.