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In a universe close to you, one side of a football club boardroom battle thought it would be a good idea to undermine the other side by accusing them of leaking company information.  The allegations of a leak [at Newco Rangers, in case you were unaware]were blazoned across The Sun today, who were shown “a copy of explosive minutes from the board showdown at Murray Park where Gers power-brokers voted to sideline (chairman, Malcolm Murray)”.

This is cringe worthy.  At what level of humanity does leaking [highly confidential]boardroom documents about an earlier alleged leak appear to be acceptable behaviour?

The Sun report the minutes from last week’s board meeting record:

“The SFA mentioned to the acting chief executive (Craig Mather) that the Rangers board situation needed addressing as the SFA understood information was leaking from the chairman.

“Given the concerns about confidentiality [no laughing now], credibility and professional conduct and the impact on regulators, a motion was proposed to remove Malcolm from the position of chairman and as director of the company following the completion of the investigation.

“It was decided that Malcolm should not attend to any duties in the meantime and would not be involved in the direction or detail of the investigation.

“The resolution was passed by a majority of shareholders.”

The campaign to blacken Malcolm Murray’s name has been underway for some months but you can ignore that, there are three points from the above worthy of note:

“Malcolm… would not be involved in the direction or detail of the investigation”.  Despite having the minutes, The Sun fail to clarify which investigation is being referred to, the on-going investigation by Pinsent Masons and Deloittes, or an investigation into Malcolm Murray’s behaviour.

As it was proposed to sack Murray as a director on completion of the investigation it’s unlikely the investigation is into his own behaviour.  Sentencing is usually reserved until after guilt is established.

The possibility that the minutes indicate Malcolm Murray will not be allowed to be involved in the direction or detail of the Pinsent Masons investigation renders the exercise pointless.  The investigation into links between Green and Whyte, with consequences for SFA membership, was at the insistence of Murray.  If the persons who removed him are now controlling the scope of his investigation, that investigation is moot.

The other interesting point is that the “resolution was passed by a majority of shareholders”.  I’m pretty sure this was a directors’ board meeting not a shareholders meeting.  It’s a curious comment to make its way onto the minutes.

By far the most concerning comment to be made on an SFA associate member’s boardroom minutes was:

“The SFA mentioned to the acting chief executive (Craig Mather) that the Rangers board situation needed addressing as the SFA understood information was leaking from the chairman”.

It is no business of the SFA whatsoever if a club chairman talks about its business outside the boardroom, the allegation here is of completely inappropriate behaviour by the Association, which makes it our business.

Who at the SFA is involved in this, what did they know, when did they know it, who told them and who did they speak?

Time for some leadership from the SFA board and some proper journalism, or would everyone rather play their part in the Great Football Swindle?

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  1. Funny things that you pick up when least expecting it.just like the young ones questioning the lyrics of cliffs living doll “fy my soul?” I from childhood(now52) questioned the words “foam align”one of those petty wee things that never gain enough importance to search for an answer.lo and behold auldtim(?) Posts on the last thread “foe malign”and there you have it my 40 odd year old question answered thanks auldtim made at least my day…..tho what’s that fy my soul all about? H H

  2. Philbhoy - It's just the beginning! on

    Nice to see the SFA keeping an eye the ran*ers board with a word or two of advice.

     

     

    After all, they are a very young company and perhaps the board are not very sure of what they are doing.

     

     

    Makes sense tae me.

  3. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MICKTT 1349

     

     

    Did yer lad tell you that,haha?!

  4. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    And PHILBHOY returns…..

     

     

    Y’all right,bud?

  5. bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers

     

     

    13:55 on 13 May, 2013MICKTT 1349Did yer lad tell you that,haha?!

     

     

    Yep

     

     

    Damn copy and paste, Damn you to hell

  6. plan for (Rangers/ The Rangers/ The Next Rangers/ just don’t mention Sevco and liquidation/) is that in three years time they will be deemed to be super clean as regards accounts, former directors etc and will retain the history of the liquidated club

  7. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MICKTT

     

     

    My niece and nephew slag me rotten for my Luddite approach to technology.

     

     

    But my handwriting is much better than theirs

     

     

    Just a child of my era…..

     

     

    Nae computers at St Andrews when I was there.

  8. Philbhoy - It's just the beginning! on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    Fine big man!

     

     

    Busy at home and work but still lurkin’!

     

     

    Hope you are well!

  9. I wonder who at the SFA has the inside track at Sevco. Really struggling to come up with a name…

  10. Paul67

     

     

    The problem supporters face in terms of the SFA is having no leverage on them to make them act in an accountable manner. They are once removed from supporters by their clubs who may or may not have their own specfic reasons for passing on supporters concerns.

     

     

    In a previous attempt to find a lever I suggested approaching sponsors but whilst a few folk did in fact write to the various SFA sponsors there was no concerted campaign and it was only the Celtic support at that time who had an axe to grind (the SPL parachute idea was not on the stocks then)further diminishing any impact.

     

     

    I still think that sponsors could be used to gain leverage but having looked at the current list it seems to me that one sponsor above all others is worth concentrating on – William Hill.

     

     

    You will get the reasoning from this post I placed on TSFM a couple of days ago but I think worth repeating here for any feedback and refinement.

     

     

    Post on TSFM

     

     

    ” If you check this link

     

     

    http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_football.cfm?page=2529

     

     

    you will see that William Hill are seven figure sponsors of the Scottish Cup and have 300 betting shops in Scotland.

     

     

    Could an on line petition be set up to go to William Hills saying that football supporters in Scotland find it difficult to understand Williams Hills backing of an organisation that has failed to uphold (and continues to undermine) the sporting integrity of Scottish football, the very characteristic on which William Hill’s business depends.

     

     

    Many supporters view the SFA as corrupt with a corrupt leadership and are surprised William Hills have maintained an association with them.

     

     

    We could ask William Hill either to withdraw their sponsorship and/or ask the SFA to say what remedial steps they were taking in order to assure football supporters that lessons had been learned and that the integrity of the sport was paramount and make public the SFA reply.

     

     

    There are other sponsors but targetting one that many supporters as valued customers are likely to use with the implied consequences of taking our bookmaking custom elsewhere might give supporters some kind of leverage.

     

     

    The wording of the petition would need to be firmed up, but given that supporters can use other bookmakers, then they are not being asked to make a sacrifice and it is one way to get our concerns across by publicising a petition on social media.”

     

     

     

    Clubs might not listen to a petition, the SFA might not listen but a high value sponsor whose business depends for its survival on the honesty and integrity of the game on which customers place bets, might just be stung into action.

  11. iPaddy McCourt on

    It is blindingly obvious that the spivs are totally at it and want Malcolm Murray out because he is asking awkward questions. Who is going to expose these con men for what they are? I sincerely hope Tomo is on the case.

  12. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    SofTunis – sadly not in ole Shangri La.

     

     

    Weather more venereal than vernal.

     

     

    The garden is weeks behind.

  13. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    PHILBHOY

     

     

    Slowly recovering from RIEPERMAN attempting to kill me at the weekend.

     

     

    Canny keep up with youngsters nowadays,esp when I give them a seven pint start and double whisky is put in front of me!

     

     

    Any good news re your colleague’s kid?

  14. South Of Tunis on

    DBBIA @ 13 51.

     

     

    Saw a big Great Spotted Cuckoo being mobbed by a gang of Blue Rock Thrushes last week..

     

     

    Nae need now for an alarm clock —–the warblers are back

  15. why don’t they just accept that the old Rangers are dead and get on with ‘the new The Rangers’ with no history

  16. bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers

     

     

    14:02 on 13 May, 2013MICKTTMy niece and nephew slag me rotten for my Luddite approach to technology.But my handwriting is much better than theirsJust a child of my era…..Nae computers at St Andrews when I was there.

     

     

    That technology still hadn’t reached when I was there, or were we just no allowed near them…

     

     

    HH

  17. Paul67

     

     

    Serious question!

     

     

    What is/are our clubs representative/s doing about this?

     

     

    Are they asking the pertinent questions?

     

     

    Are they allowing RCO to act as he pleases?

     

     

    Our questions should firstly be asked of our board and in particular our representatives at Hampden? As they are in a position to ask the questions and request any motion to investigate any official or club members actions.

     

     

    MWD

  18. A fish rots from the head down and the current head at the SFA is well passed his sell by date.

     

    It’s now down to Celtic and the other SPL teams to force a clean up at Hampden and shine some light in the inner workings of the football bureaucracy.

     

    In an age where fans are feeling detached from football and are voting with their feet, it is necessary that any beach chair reshuffling brings transparency, consistency and competence to the bumbling, secretive corridors of power.

     

    If the fans believe that the bureaucracy is biased and incompetent then they will continue to disappear like snow off a dyke in May.

  19. jimtim @ 13:36

     

     

    Keep the heid, my friend; don’t lose heart.

     

     

    To paraphrase the old saying ’we live in interesting times’: the age of the Masonic handshake being the controlling force behind Scottish football is drawing to an end – though I would concede that we’re not quite there yet …

     

     

    As far as Scottish football is concerned, sure, boards and committees may yet be festooned with knuckle-crunchers, but the times they are a changin’. (See Auldheid’s posting from 14:02 today for just one example of how quickly powerful ideas can be aired and developed.)

     

     

    The forces let loose by this age of Internet Bampottery are simply too powerful and too difficult to control by a cabal of minor worthies able and willing to sacrifice their Thursday evenings, networking at the altar of goat worship.

     

     

    (The lodges of more concern are those at the more selective strands of freemasonry, favoured by the higher reaches of the justiciary, police and civil service. But the good news on that score is that their members have little interest in the sport of the proles, nor the intrigues of fly-by-night spivs.)

     

     

    The genie is well and truly out of the bottle …

     

     

    FF

     

     

    P.S. A strand of freemasonry I always thought would be worth finding more about is the one known as the Royal Order of Jesters, whose motto is (and I kid you not): “Mirth is King”. Sounds suspiciously like the proceedings of some of our own bretheren, known to frequent a certain gazebo of a Saturday afternoon …

  20. Celtic_First on

    Ron Bacardi

     

     

    Because you can make money from the deady bears’ fans if you pretend your new club is their old club. Keep the pretence up and they will keep paying.

  21. whitedoghunch

     

     

    14:31 on 13 May, 2013

     

    Proudbhoy put celtic tv into youtube

     

     

    –/

     

     

    Cheers buddy

  22. Glendalystonsils likes a mr whippy with his lime green jelly on

    Sevco=

     

     

    S crofulous

     

     

    E xtension of

     

     

    V illainous

     

     

    C ampbell

     

     

    O gilvie

  23. Celtic_First 14:22 on 13 May, 2013

     

    Ron Bacardi

     

     

    Because you can make money from the deady bears’ fans if you pretend your new club is their old club. Keep the pretence up and they will keep paying.

     

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    Was a rhetorical(spelling) question, the Scottish papers and telly refuse to acknowledge the liquidation of Rangers

  24. emusanorphan on

    charliebhoy

     

     

    13:50 on 13 May, 2013

     

     

    Funny things that you pick up when least expecting it.just like the young ones questioning the lyrics of cliffs living doll “fy my soul?” I from childhood(now52) questioned the words “foam align”one of those petty wee things that never gain enough importance to search for an answer.lo and behold auldtim(?) Posts on the last thread “foe malign”and there you have it my 40 odd year old question answered thanks auldtim made at least my day…..tho what’s that fy my soul all about? H H

     

     

    Charliebhoy

     

     

    I believe Mr Richard also promoted the idea of forced imprisonment of women in that song. “I’m gonna lock her up in a trunk, so no big hunk can steal her away from me”.

     

     

    Shocking! The song should be banned!

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