I watched Hearts batter Pat Fenlon’s Hibs into submission at Easter Road last month. They are not a good team but they have elbows and commitment, often the key resources in a football game. With our interest in the League Cup and Europe curtailed, and the league title a sure thing, it is enormously important that we remain in the Scottish Cup into the New Year.
Attitude is the most important attribute for Celtic this weekend.
Things you don’t expect to do when you start blogging: I took four calls from journos yesterday asking if I knew a Celtic fan prepared to go on record as an IRA supporter! I don’t, for the record, not one, so no one else should bother checking. Lack of support for that organisation and, where support exists, an awareness that representing yourself as such, is not inconsequential, will explain the dearth. Just as it’s not inconsequential when you represent your club. I can’t see many inviting the consequences.
I also got a call yesterday and a faxed copy of a contemporary Celtic View (yes, a fax) from a fan who was beside Jock Stein when he went into the crowd at Annfield that day in 1972. It was all very cordial, of course, no one argued with Jock.
Jock was at the height of his powers. Five years from the European Cup win, two from his last final and four months since losing a European Cup semi-final on penalties, he had yet to lose a league as Celtic manager. His comment in the View, “The Wreckers are chanting about things that have nothing to do with football” was respected, Celtic fans went back to football matters. But this was 1972. News from Ireland was despairing. Rangers fans (and according to newspaper reports, Hearts fans) were chanting “UDA” without censure, Celtic fans eventually retorted.
This is all sooo last century, apart from the consequences, of course.
Sharp focus for Sunday…
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greendreamz
That is a little oasis of sweetness in this current pit of depair.
JJ
NegAnon2
17:25 on
29 November, 2013
I can’t recall who it was but somebody posted some other examples of political protests that had brought censure from UEFA. One of them was in support of Greenpeace.
Personally I think UEFA are wrong but you can’t accuse them of inconsistency or singling Celtic out. They have made it very clear that political protests are not allowed.
I think they’re wrong to take that stance but I guess that’s what their sponsors have decreed.
Big Nan
If “we” win the case, are the costs refunded?
JJ
NegAnon2
17:25 on 29 November, 2013
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When the news breaks about the ‘bored’ being complicit in all the save the huns / smash the GB / LNS behind the scenes deals etc…by that time the huns will probably be re-invented and will be back in Div 3 again or – died awe the gither…when all of the above comes to pass – ye can put the lights oot at CP. imo
And, ye know what ?
See if the end of the Cellic(well they urny that any mair imo) means the end of the huns
FOR GOOD…I’ll gho along wi that.
HH
JJ
In criminal law cases in Scotland…there is no award of costs
You have to pay for the privilege of being found not guilty of something you didn’t do
Superintendent MacDonald is entitled to full credit as the creative consultant of Scotland’s newest game-show, “..I Beat the Dog (but I didn’t need to hit it)..”
This PR puff is so poor, it could’ve come from Jack Irvine.
Jungle Jim
17:34 on 29 November, 2013
Big Nan
If “we” win the case, are the costs refunded?
JJ
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Can’t say for Holland but in this country criminal charges are defended at the cost of the accused (or legal aid) and there is no claim for costs in the event of acquittal.
My £70k had to be borne by me but my arbitration was on a loser pays costs or costs follow the event as it is known.
So win or lose the buckets will have to keep going and benefit concerts by Billy No’Well etc need organised now IMHO.
We can’t rest on our laurels.
Neganon2
Excellent post, well said. However, despite knowing all this beforehand, the current board were all voted back on unanimously.
As you succinctly put it, how indeed will it end?
I don’t consider myself intellectual enough to answer that.
HH
neganon2,
Brilliant post, sir.
For me the enjoyment of going to CP- I rarely go away- is waning. So sad considering I’ve been going since 1962.
You summed up the reasons beautifully
PF and Big Nan
Thanks for the information and I do hope Holland has a system much fairer than ours seems to be. Dam Square evidence would suggest otherwise
Dam Unfair CSC
!!bada bing!!
15:38 on 29 November, 2013
What does it matter if he’s from
Thistle if he’s good?
To this day fans are still disappointed we didn’t sign a scrawny wee lad from Hamilton.
My Dear,Dear, Dear.. Friend.. The Singing Detective..
Ah am Very Pleased tae Welcome yer Appearance,
You are ,INDEED..a Guy who knows the Wey tae the Cross!
Ah agree,wholeheartedly.. wi.. your Concurrences…!
Ledley,is a Bum..and should be gien.. the.. well.. Bum’s Rush!( Fur,in all Honesty.. Ah dinna Believe that there is a Team oot there. who wid be Mug Enuff.. . tae Actually..Pey, guid Money fur Him.. Sure they wull tak him oan a Free..of course.)
As is.. Kayal.. Broonie.. and .. Hold the Phone, Marmaduke…
SAMMI.as weel.
Commons, is No Far Behind that Loat.. Eethur
But, Enuff of these ,Fond Hopes and Speculations!
Yes.. Darnell,s the Best thing tae Come up the Pipe .. since.. Tunnock’s Wafers!
He should be a Shoe-in. fur the Kayal Spot in the Line-up.
And.. Ah widnae be At Awe Surprised..If.. Neil, Surprises All.. by
Naming Darnell as Kayal’s Replacement.
Fur..Surely,Neil.. must be aware of Young Fisher’s ..well. Worth?
Hearts game,is no gonna be easy..
Edinburgh ,is a Hot Bed o’ Hot Coals..
And they folks there, dinnae cotton tae Us..
Yes, Virginia.. Celtic, must ,indeedly..
Show a Much Biggah Fist .than they did.. agin the Aberdeen..’
We Lucked oot.. NO question.. St. Patrick smiled oan Us.. in that Game..
We should Not Mistake oor Scoring those TWO fortunate Goals,,in the Last Minutes..as being. doon tae Anything .. RESEMBLING . Skill..
It wiz jist St.Patrick.. gien us a Leetle Break…
and.. He wullnae keep oan daeing things like that..
Fur.. Folk wull Talk..
In Heaven.. ‘
Fur .. Saints shouldnae Back thur Favorites.. So Openly!
Right..,?
From noo oan. Thur wull be Nae Further..
Miracles faeSt.Patrick..
Noo.. He wull Leave that kinda Help…up tae St. Jude… where it Belongs!
Celtic ,jist gotta..
FIND A GOAL SCORING CENTER…
Amido…?
Frigidsson..?
Bangura?
Who Knows..
Mebbe,this Fridgid Kid …fae ICELAND.. wull Mak oor Dreams come true..
Yep…Ah hiv a Good Feelin aboot him..
Kojo
Still L aughin’
Bhoys/Ghirls,
I’m looking for a little advice for a friend.
He works for a large company in Glasgow and was required to attend a Meeting with the company’s HR advisor regarding comments made via a social network after Tuesdays champions league match.
Naively he posted a humorous comment along the lines of we may be out of Europe but at least I’m not a hun.
HR dept received a complaint from another member of staff and have intimated that the term hun is offensive and sectarian.
If you could spare anytime / effort on building a response for him that would show the term not being sectarian it would be greatly received.
HH
Happy as a pig innit ! The wee wumin has just given me a parcel !
A lovely big CQN annual :)
I thank you !
Ps looks like wee Jamsey and boabygate are well covered !
Oooooofffffftttttt !!!!!!
King Vic – I assume it was his personal FB? And he hasn’t been accused of a criminal offense? If those two assumptions are correct his hr department have no business speaking to him.
*THE KING VIC 67*
Inform HR that the Hun are in fact both offensive and sectarian.
*THE KING VIC 67*
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Hun [hʌn]
n
1. (Social Science / Peoples) a member of any of several Asiatic nomadic peoples speaking Mongoloid or Turkic languages who dominated much of Asia and E Europe from before 300 bc, invading the Roman Empire in the 4th and 5th centuries a.d
2. Informal (esp in World War I) a derogatory name for a German
3. Informal a vandal
[Old English Hūnas, from Late Latin Hūnī, from Turkish Hun-yū]
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Celtic Mac
17:02 on
29 November, 2013
eddieinkirkmichael
“……on the right to sign and chant what we want”
Kevin Rooney may be a writer and a teacher but he does not understand or follow the logic of his own argument. He does not understand the concept of free speech either.
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Rooney isn’t my cup of tea normally, I don’t adhere to his political views. He has however been consistent in his writings on the OB bill. I poster the article because I think he’s right on most points he raises in it.
The King Vic
Sorry,Lad.
Yer Pal Has convicted Himsel.
But.. At this Point..May Ah offer Him some Advice.. Fur the Future,ye Know.. ?????
Ma Sainted Mama.. Done Tole Me.. when Ah wuz in Knee-Pants..
“Kojo,she alwiz called me.. Kojo… Well..She Didnae Really, use the Name,Kojo..but dae ye think Ah wid be so Daft as tae Write .. Ma Real Name?…
“Kojo, Ma Dear.. HoneyBunch…
Remember this..and furget .. Everythin’ Else.. fur the Moment..of course..
But…
NEVAH, NEVAH, Pit ANYTHING in WRITING.. that ye think could be taken doon and Used Agin Ye..”
Yep..
‘
Yer friend his Hanged Himsel..in this wan..
Let it Be A Lesson tae him.. a Painful Wan..which is a Guid thing..
Fur .. For He wull Noo Fully Understaun… whit Ma Sainted Mama .. wiz Talking Aboot.
Kojo
Still, Laughin’
*THE KING VIC 67*
17:58 on
CELTIC fans who unfurled a banner calling Rangers fans “huns” walked free from court after a three-day trial.
Green Brigade members Daniel Ward, 23, and Daniel McCorgray, 22, both of Glasgow, were charged with breach of the peace aggravated by religious prejudice at a Celtic v St Mirren game in August 2010.
Their banner showed Hoops boss Neil Lennon outside a flaming Ibrox with the slogan ‘Huns FC’ on the main stand. Another banner said: “Let’s go to war.”
The pair were granted legal aid as the court heard complex legal arguments in the trial.
But Sheriff Alayne Swanson took just 20 minutes to return a not proven verdict last week at Glasgow Sheriff Court.
Ward’s lawyer, ex-Celt Gerry Britton, said as no-one had complained there was no breach. He added: “The charge tried to link two banners but they were separate.
“Our argument was that the word “huns” may be none too pleasant, but is not a religious comment.”
Read more: http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot…#ixzz1qCvlLdP7
*THE KING VIC 67*
Or use the charles Green Scottish MSM defence and say its an old french saying.
Dont mean to be flippant but every time I think of that it riles me.
Kojo
18:09 on
you are talking shite, read my post above and you’ll understand no one has ever been convicted under any legislation for using the term “hun”
” The King Vic 67″
I have alway been of the belief that the term came from the Mayor of Barcelona describing them, in 1972 (?) as being ” like an army of invading huns.” If so, your friend could use that.
JJ
Two comments seen on TSFM site last night
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/10481345/Football-match-fixing-World-Cup-matches-may-have-been-rigged.html
However, during the course of the conversations about English matches, the fixer also said that he could rig matches “all over” the world, except in Singapore where the penalties are very high.
“I do Australia, Scotland. Ireland. Europe. World Cup. World Cup qualifier,” he said.
Hmmm. I wonder if the SFA would like to look into this? Presumably not.
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if they didn’t know match fixing had taken place at the time, then it didn’t happen.
isn’t that how it goes Sandy??
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Ps what was Ian Black charged with by the SFA for betting against his own team?
29 November 2013
Ireland midfielder Aiden McGeady has been dropped from Spartak Moscow’s first team for an unspecified period for failing to heed instructions, coach Valery Karpin said on Friday.
“Yes, McGeady was suspended from training with the first team for not complying with my instructions in training and matches,” the Russia international Karpin told reporters.
“The rest is our internal affair.”
Local media reported McGeady, capped 63 times by Ireland, has been criticised by Karpin for poor form and his performance in Spartak’s 1-0 loss to city rivals CSKA last Saturday.
Several Russian newspapers said the 27-year-old winger would be allowed to play only in Spartak’s reserve team and would leave the club in January.
“All of us were surprised to see the Irishman on the field and asked him what happened,” a reserve team’s player told Izvestya newspaper on condition of anonymity after Friday’s training session.
McGeady joined Spartak from Celtic in 2010 on a four-and-a-half-year contract for a reported fee of around £9.5m.
Spartak, who are third in the standings with 33 points from 17 matches, three points behind leaders Zenit St Petersburg, take on Volga on Sunday.
I think what really annoys some Celtic fans is that political acts are allowed in football so long as it is in keeping with the established narrative.
It wasn’t that long ago FIFA let England wear poppies on armbands despite their rules regarding such displays.
Howitzers on the pitch ? no problem, a H banner and all hell breaks loose…Some consistency would be nice.
*THE KING VIC 67*
17:58 on
Also see
http://www.thecelticwiki.com/page/Hun
Dontbrattback regarding nazi subjugation – that was indeed where it ended up but it started with alienation and dehumanisaton. Both of which are well underway in Scotland.
My Dear Kojo….
Atajik Has Looked Useful In His Fleeting Appearances For The First Team…
He Has Some Guile And Could Combine Well With The Other Attackers….
Pukki And Stokes…..
Bangura Should Be Exiled To Play With The Youth Team…..
I Don’t Share Your Optimistic Assessment Of Balde….
He Is Severely Lacking In Ball Skills…
And Does Not Even Appear To Be A Threat In The Air…..
India-Rubber Man….Or Not
Perhaps He Would Be More Suited To Rugby Or American Football ?
Anyway….Play The Youngsters
Lukaku Is A Twenty Year Old Centre Forward At Chelsea…
Who Is On A Season-Long Loan At Everton….
Because He Was Not Happy To Sit On The Bench At Chelsea….
He Has Been An Absolute Revelation…
A Monster….And The Deadliest Striker In The EPL With Seven Goals…..
Looks Like One Of Victor’s Brothers….
You Don’t Know What Exciting Talent You Have At Your. Disposal….
Unless You Play Them……
Our Manager Struggles In This Department…
Right…?
Is the Dundee Untd. Cup game on the box tonight?
No.
weeminger
18:07 on 29 November, 2013
It was his personal Facebook account and he was not accused of any criminal offence.
He has previously (last year) participated in a company wide briefing regarding use of social media etc.
Thanks to ALL who have replied!
They deady bears must be hurting so so so so so so so much
TKV67
EddieinKirkMichael
Thanks fur telling me.. Whit Ah Hiv Written..
Ah hid No Idea!
Interesting?
Hmmmmmm
Anwey, allow me tae Profusely, Apologise tae Ye Guid Self, fur daeing such a thing.
Ah wull dae Ma Best tae Mak sure that It Disnae Happen Again..
And if it diz..
Well..
Ah kin Always..
Apologise, Profusely.. Again..
Right?
Kojo
Still,Laughin
*THE KING VIC 67*
17:58 on 29 November, 2013
The Guardian’s science and technology editor, Robin McKie, defines the word hun thus:-
‘a hun – a Rangers fan’*
And he should know, he is one (a hun).
Now if a man of science, in an editorial position at the right on, politically correct Guardian, defines the word like that I can’t see why any HR department should take issue with anyone using it on social media.
*Why this hun’s on the run
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2003/may/18/sport.uefa
Thank you.
King Vic 67
Try this link to a Rangers fan adopting the term for himself
Rangers fan using hun
P.S. Some folk who do not suffer fools gladly seem to enjoy keeping company with a confederacy of dunces. Ignore their “advice”.
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