Automatic CL qualification a year’s extrapolation away


Buoyed by two seasons with two clubs competing in the Europa League group stage, Scotland have reached 15th in the Uefa coefficient table.  If they hold off close challenges from Cyprus, Greece, Serbia, Croatia and Switzerland, this will be enough to deliver two Champions League qualification spots for season 2021-22.

This is of no more than passing interest to perennial champions, the 10th and 11th spots are where it gets really interesting.  Champions of the 10th and above place country get automatic entry into the Champions League group stage.  If the previous season’s CL winners have already qualified from their domestic league, as is usually the case, the 11th place country’s champions get direct entry into the group stage.

Ukraine and Turkey currently occupy 10th and 11th spots, with Austria, Denmark and Czech Repulic also ahead of Scotland, but for the next three seasons, Scotland will lose fewer points than each of those countries.  By contrast, we are ahead of all five countries last season and this.

Extrapolation is the scourge of the hopeful and we should not necessarily assume Celtic and Newco will continue to gather coefficient points at the same steady pace.  But, if we were to extrapolate, this season’s performances for Scotland and the five countries immediately above us, we would overtake Ukraine, Turkey, Denmark and Czech Republic by this time next year, leaving Salzburg-inspired Austria in 10th and Scotland 11th.

The Champions League qualification competition is difficult but it is doubly difficult through the non-champions route (only two places are available this way), so I’m not too worried about splitting the Scottish TV pot with another club.  The importance of nine and ten-in-a-row does not need to be stated, but a £40m bonus could sweeten the 11th successive title, should we get there.

Coming our way soon will be a fifth European spot, so points currently divided by four will likely be divided by five in season 2021-22.  Let’s hope the American money arriving in Aberdeen shortly can up their game in Europe.

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  1. Hello again all you young rebels.



    It’s just a wee hello because i know there’s a new


    blog from Paul coming shortly.


    And anyhow i like talkin to you bhoys and ghirls lol.


    H.H . Mick

  2. Melbourne Mick – with 2 rticles posted yesterday I don’t see another one coming out today or tomorrow for that matter, other than the ‘live updates’. Thanks for being the last to vote foe your Rennes Men of the Match. In case you missed the results, here’s a shameless repost from Page 2….



    JOBO BALDIE on 29TH NOVEMBER 2019 10:46 PM


    *** CQN PLAYER OF THE YEAR 2019-20 ***




    We win our Europa League group with a game to spare – what a fantastic achievement. And our fine overall team performance is reflected in the fact that all 11 starters plus 1 of the substitutes received at least 1 vote. It’s all about (couldn’t be more diverse) opinions right enough!


    Thank you to the 53 who voted. The votes for the 14 players who took to the field are as follows (my own choices are asterisked) –


    Forster*: 26


    Bauer – 1


    Jullien: 7


    Ajer*: 4


    Taylor: 3


    Brown: 7


    McGregor: 12


    Christie: 35


    Ntcham*: 31


    Morgan: 20


    Forrest: 3


    Johnston: 3


    Bitton: 0


    Griffiths: 0


    Unused subs – Gordon, Sinclair, Rogic, Robertson


    Therefore, the players receiving points for the Rennes game are –


    Christie – 5 points


    Ntcham – 4 points


    Forster – 3 points


    Morgan – 2 points


    McGregor – 1 point


    Meaning that the aggregate total points are now as follows –


    Brown – 37 points


    Edouard – 32 points


    Christie – 27 points


    Forrest – 26 points


    Elyounoussi – 22 points


    Frimpong – 22 points


    Jullien – 20 points


    McGregor – 16 points


    Bolingoli-Mbombo – 13 points


    Forster – 12 points


    Bauer – 11 points


    Ntcham – 9 points


    Elhamed – 8 points


    Hayes – 7 points


    Ajer – 6 points


    Bitton – 3 points


    Bayo – 3 points


    Taylor – 3 points


    Morgan – 2 points


    Rogic – 1 point





    The Player Of The Month award is based purely on the total votes given to each player during that month’s games. As a reminder, in September the award was won by James Forrest with Jullien and Christie coming 2nd and 3rd. In October the winner was Scott Brown with Edouard and Elyounoussi being close behind. In November, we played just the 5 games. In 3rd place with 94 votes is Elyounoussi and just ahead in 2nd place with 98 votes is Frimpong. But the runaway Player Of The Month for November, holding onto his crown with 149 votes is CAPTAIN SCOTT BROWN.


    And so we move onto December where we are scheduled to play 8 matches. We begin with Sunday’s High Noon kick off in Dingwall. I don’t expect us to win by quite as many as our 6-0 home tie against Ross County earlier in the season.


    Hail Hail



    PS – Oops, nearly forgot. The eagle eyed amongst you might have noticed that whilst 53 folk voted, the total votes amount to 158. That’s because some kind soul decided that yours truly was deserving of their 3rd vote! OK, so he happens to be related to me, but hey ho!! 😉

  3. Thank you Jobo, thought i’d missed the deadline, had to watch the


    game again due to my usual altercation with the rid biddy, but i seem


    to have been on the same wavelength as everybody else.


    And i must say it’s a great little thing you’ve got going, it certainly


    makes you think all through the game, i didn’t have Jamesy in my top 3


    maybe i should have? how many other posters have experienced the


    same situation?


    H.H . Mick




    Just listened to a part of that, i will listen to rest in the morn.


    But what a player , vastly undervalued by our club, who by the way


    thought Judas was worth more of their time and money.


    Feckin boards eh?


    H.H . Mick

  5. The BBC , as ever, doing all it can to present Sevco fans in a good light ( No mention of sectarian behaviour) :



    “Dutch police made 42 arrests in connection with Thursday’s Europa League match between Feyenoord and Rangers in Rotterdam.


    A spokesperson said most of those arrested were locals, adding there were “no big problems”.



    A hotel bar with Rangers fans inside was briefly attacked by Feyenoord hooligans but no one was hurt.



    Rangers sold 3,000 tickets for the 2-2 draw, which takes them top of qualifying Group G.



    However, many more supporters made the the trip to the Netherlands, with police in Amsterdam saying there were around 600 visiting bars in the city during the game and no incidents of trouble.


    The Ibrox club could face Uefa punishment, though, after fans set off flares inside the stadium before kick off.”

  6. Most arrested were locals;


    There were no big problems;


    No one was hurt;


    No incidents of trouble.



    So, what was the point of this article?

  7. ….and the `article was headlined:



    “Feyenoord 2-2 Rangers: Dutch police made 42 arrests but ‘no big problems’ ”



    So, we now know that if anyone mentions later that Ibrox might be closed for their next EL game, it is because the Authorities are anti – `rangers`.

  8. RE: PLC divide et impera



    It’s as old as the hills. PLC hink wir aw stupit.



    It would be wise to remember that the same people who would stop you from singing Rebel and flying pro-Irish banners may be back next year to complain about a book, or even a t-shirt.


    If you can be told what you can sing or say, then it follows, that you can be told what to think!


    Defend your constitutionally protected EC Human Rights – no one else will do it for you.






    ‘The rangers’ are being ACTUAL Nazis, just like oor board aspire to be?


    Control, divide, conquer.






    From 2017 Celtic have been hit with a 12th UEFA fine in the space of six years with the total bill up to about £170,000. (+ the last two years fines) Some of which the support paid for themselves!?



    Lawwell & press saying £500,000+ HE IS A LYING. He will lie to throw, all of us, under the bus if we don’t think like he does. We could have bought a player with that money! Where fae? Morton?



    Take him and arms dealer Desmond oot. FASCISTS.



    Furthermore, the reason there is no movement on Resolution 12?



    One Word: Juninho


    They messed up with an EBT and never paid the tax, PAYE, at the time (paid too late for it to be within the rules)


    WE would lose 0-3 for every game he played in too. If the rules were followed. Not as bad as the decades the HUN has being doing it for.


    Nevertheless, we would be dragged in too.


    If you want an open and honest, beautiful game then PLC need to step up. Alternatively, there will remain a disconnection between most of the support and PLC.



    That is your primary weapon to fight them. Maladministration, get them out.



    Their reasons for for the attack on the Green Brigade?



    Quite simple.


    PLC are scared of the GB. Too Powerful. They get the blame for every ill. There are only 70+ of the GB in the ‘Section’. Out of 3,000. Yet, it’s aw their fault?


    How many clubs in Europe ban its own fans, without disciplinary influence from UEFA?


    Oooooh, call Fascists FASCISTS is a crime now. That’s because they are authoritarian Fascists.




  9. CORKCELT on 30TH NOVEMBER 2019 12:20 PM


    I have selective amnesia when dealing with historical Celtic results, I remember the great wins as clear as day but have absolutely no recall of any bad defeats.



    Hi Corky,


    The VT editor at Celtic Park has the same affliction, if you watch the highlights of previous games on the Big Screens you will see that we haven’t conceded a goal in any competition …..ever :)

  10. Man City looking bang average this season, nothing really working for them, Pep magic stopped working??

  11. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    South of Tunis, 1977/78 is my nightmare season as a Celtic fan, older Celtic supporters will have theirs from the 40’s , 50’s and 60’s plus younger fans from the 90’s.



    In 1977/78 we lost 3 of our best players from season 1976/77 , Kenny Dalglish, Pat Stanton and Alfie Conn by the first game of the season then lost Danny by October 1977. I had high hopes for 1977/78 but it just frittered away after losing Danny, Kenny , Pat and Alfie from the team.

  12. Personally, I cannot wait to see young Mr Frimpomg and Karamoko in the same team.



    Hope all is well with you all.



    Big score tomorrow to help our goal difference and hope the mini huns will do something,hmmmm, maybe not




  13. Mon the hoops



    Scared of Celtic fans who call themselves the green brigade…… I don’t think so mate.


    A series of clicks on seats and a public note shows you how easy Celtic fans called the green brigade can be controlled



    Just a thought mate.




  14. 77/78 was the only season that I never missed any domestic game.



    Sometimes I worry about me.

  15. prestonpans bhoys on




    I’m the same went to every game home and away, had more money than sense. Remember just beating Stirling 2:1, players almost walked off the pitch after 3:1 down to the Huns because even by mibs standards that third goal was outrageous.

  16. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on

    Thought since the horses are beat and the fitba coupon is heading the same way


    I’ll take a wee peek at CQN, 77/78 deary me the young yins don’t know their born.



    2¬0 up h/t at Ibrokes beat 3¬2,pumped out of the Scottish cup by killie,Dowie,


    Garner,sleepy Filippi,happy days not.

  17. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on




    How are things pal, have you got a ticket for the cup final?,I’ve got one been


    lucky with the ballots last couple of year’s.

  18. MELBOURNE MICK on 30TH NOVEMBER 2019 1:35 PM





    Brian McClair had fewer friends amongst the Celtic support than Le Petit unmentionable. This was despite a far superior scoring record. Brian’s problem may have been that he wasn’t a ned like Le Petit or Nicholas.


    I’m not convinced that Brian’s assessment of ‘Walter’ is correct. Smith’s record at Ibrox was good but he could buy players no other team in Scotland could. He had the print media, the broadcasters and the referees in his pocket. And his record outside Rangers-friendly Scotland was south of dismal.

  19. prestonpans bhoys on




    I’m fine still in ole standing curve and yes got my ticket this time around, second last row at the back of the Celtic end.



    Alfie Conn was no longer an automatic first team choice by then. Caesar transferred him shortly after his return from Aberdeen.


    The loss of Danny and Pat Stanton were huge body blows. Mind you Pat was probably close to the end of his playing days. But Kenny couldn’t would have been irreplaceable in any era.

  21. Nye Bevans' rebel soldier on




    I’ll not be that far from you area g row ccc, keep a lookout for me.

  22. Prestonpans






    If I remember correctly we had a bit of the centenary stand (benches on the same terracing) where I was as they ran up the park whilst all our players were appealing for a blatant penalty.



    I was fully in favour of waking off when Tom McAdam was asking for advice from management. We should have.

  23. prestonpans bhoys on




    Well well well G5 DDD 114/113 think we’ll be chatting like the old days in 112😁👍

  24. prestonpans bhoys on




    Thankfully I was in the centenary stand or I would have been on the park too, big Jock came over to the Celtic end to get us back in the ground.

  25. PB and H.J.


    That happened in the 3.1 game at Ibrox, that year, not the 3.2 game.


    I was,at this game and it is,still the worse cheating that I have ever witnessed, in any Celtic game.


    I remember going home and telling my Dad, no live TV then and he just said, son it was ever thus.


    From Celtic Wiki.


    One of the most controversial Old Firm games in years


    Celtic denied stick on penalty when Joe Craig is fouled in the area. Celtic players surround the referee in protest. Rangers break up the park and score as Celtic players still remonstrate with referee Gordon.


    Celtic fans come on to the park behind the goal and Stein has to usher them backto the terraces


    Neilly Mochan prevents some Celtic players from walking of and enters the field of play to get the players to restart after the second goal..


    Celtic denied another penalty in the second half when Alex MacDonald handles on the line






    Kennedy Jardine Greig Forsyth Jackson MacDonald McLean (Parlane) Russell Johnstone Smith Cooper (Miller)


    Scorers: Smith 35 Greig 37 Parlane 87





    Latchford, Filippi, Lynch, Aitken, MacDonald, Munro, Glavin, Edvaldsson, Craig, McAdam, Wilson. Subs: G McCluskey, Dowie


    Scorers: Edvaldsson 64



    Referee: JRP Gordon (Newport-on-Tay)


    Attendance: 51,000

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