I was at primary school during the 1979 devolution referendum. It’s fair to say many in the Celtic community were suspicious of the SNP due to the hostile attitudes some of the party leadership had to the Irish diaspora in their midst.
Fresh blood brought change to the SNP in the 1980s, there were even overtures to Irish nationalism. Alex Salmond cemented these changes, broadened the appeal of the party towards new and multi-generation immigrants, and asserted the SNP’s multi-faith credentials. He also became close friends with disgraced Cardinal O’Brien (which is no reflection on Mr Salmond).
At the height of his political powers Salmond appears to have overreached. Something would be done about men shouting at football games. From now on only certain flavours of nationalism would be favoured, acceptable, perhaps even legal. MSP Christine Graham let the Scottish Parliament know, the problem was that Celtic fans were not acting illegally, so the law had to change.
The Axe the Act candidate in today’s Glasgow City Council, Govan, by-election, Thomas Rannachan has brought the consequences of Salmond’s largess to his door. The SNP are defending the seat but one year out from the battle Salmond really needs to win, his shoddy attack on football fans is set to undermine him. As an independent Rannachan may not win, but he has put the First Minister on the back foot.
George Ryan’s funeral will take place at St Andrew’s Cathedral, Glasgow, at 10:00 on Monday. All are welcome.
Sean’s book’s here, fill your boots:
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scottishleaf
12:08 on
11 October, 2013
ernie lynch
Is it possible for you to respond to any posts without attempting to insult the poster?
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ask him how Trigger is ….he loves that …..he is a sad sad wee man …nosaebrawatoh
JOHNNYCLASH
I personally doubt there is an appetite for unification in NI.
The Catholic part of the electorate will shortly have the upper hand,and be able to run the Six Counties pretty much as they please,within reason.
In the indie debate the only stance that I’ve consistently made is that a Yes vote is not necessarily and SNP vote, and I stand by that.
Nobody can accurately predict what will happen in an independent Scotland. Maybe it will be a Golden Dawn. Maybe nothing will fundamentally change.
A lot of No opinions seem to be driven by fear.
It’s very interesting that some fear a rise in Catholic oppression. If you’ve ever seen an indie debate on a Rangers site, they fear the creeping rise of Catholic power in an independent Scotland or at the extreme end a tightening of the grip on power that Catholic’s allegedly have(that’s a summary anyway). That suggests to me that if anything not much will change in that respect.
I doubt Yes will win anyway. We’ll end up with more powers and the SNP reign will continue.
JohnnyClash
12:24 on 11 October, 2013
‘What appetite is there within the modern day Dublin government for having the 6 counties back as part of a united Ireland?’
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I’d guess it must be at an all time low, and it was never very high.
NEUSTADT-BRAW
Jings,you must have the constitution of an ox!
All right,bud? Was the vino you were on overnight Lambrini,or summat?
weeminger
12:27 on 11 October, 2013
‘I doubt Yes will win anyway. We’ll end up with more powers and the SNP reign will continue.’
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My prediction is a surprisingly high no vote and for the SNP to implode in the aftermath.
bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers forza oscar and mackenzie
Honestly mate I thought that someone had phoned taxi’s
Felt like a k##b when it was yir man!I apologies
HH
BMCUWP, There are no residency restrictions in our poll.
SO…………Bottom line…………
If tomorrow was polling day, how would CQN vote ?
YES…………………………
Kilbowie Kelt
Neustadt-Braw.
The Exiled Tim.
DiCanioWasADream.
Vespacide.
Raspar Capac.
An Tearmann.
Saint Stivs.
Delaney’s Donkey.
BMCUWP.
NO.
John O’Neil.
verdantvic
DON’T KNOW.
Skyisalandfill.
Hamiltontim.
Philboy.( Who is currently objecting to the result. Steward’s inquiry taking place)
johnnyclash
Government – no appetite. The Dublin political class backed by a traditionally unionist national media have no appetite for reunification.
In terms of people, a recent IT poll showed the vast majority of people in the south wanted reunification. Most people were prepared to pay higher taxes for it to come about – despite the worst recession in Irish State history.
ERNIE LYNCH
Hmmmm……
Betcha Salmond already has his Plan B in place where he blames NOT having sufficient leeway from Westminster to properly influence the vote.
And use this to demand more autonomy now that independence is dead for the time-being.
It will end with a Scottish fiefdom run largely independently from Westminster,but protected by UK defence and economy.
All the politicians win. Guess who loses.
ernie lynch
12:30 on
11 October, 2013
You could be right, although when the SNP came to power the polls suggested the Yes vote was at around 30%. BBC reported it as 41% on 18th September.
I doubt they’ll impolde. There’ll be a flurry of populist policies and they’ll either keep their majority or at the worst be the major player in a coalition – maybe getting enough seats to need just the Lib Dems and/or some other minority group.
WEET WEET WEET
No need to apologise,big fella!
Pretty sure SANNABHOY got a few quid for The KANO Foundation. And we got a shot in a convertible. In Glasgow. In September!
Who’d a thunk it?
new article posted.
KILBOWIE KELT
Blinkin’ flip,man!
Do you want me killed by my own family?!!!!!!
For the avoidance of doubt,I would under no circumstances vote YES in 2014-that might change in the future.
Ffs,I even voted against devolution as we don’t have enough decent politicians to do it properly….
Between Winningcaptains and KK this is turnin’ into CelticQuickLists.
And I see I’ve been redacted from KK’S list.
THis is what it must feel like to be an ole danglin’ chad.
South of Tunis or The Exiled Tim
If either of you are around any chance of giving us your predictions to empty the bookies pockets in the international fixtures?
HH
Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar
12:15 on
11 October, 2013
it’s Salmond’s policies that would encourage me to vote no.
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Salmond is ” a mere transient”
One can vote for independence whilst disagreeing with Salmond about everything else.
I would think that a ‘Yes’ vote would, in time, presage a change in the Scottish political landscape. For a start, the raison d’être for the existence of a SNP would have been removed.
There would be many who voted ‘Yes’ who would then look to a reconfigured Scottish Labour/ Tory/ Socialist/ Liberal to create the their kind of Scotland.
The ‘mere transient’ was uttered by Robin Day to John Nott just before he left the studio in high dudgeon. Just in case, anyone accuses me of plagiarism.
BMCUWP………….hoopy friday pal,was celebrating a bit of good fortune ,I was only on the Herrenhauser pils …..but had a braw time….and I think I will have a braw long weekend ….it is a Braw world being a Celt …..
Hamiltontim
Yes and I think that forms part of the debate for Irish Republicans as to whether they vote yes or no. As JS pointed out in his article it’s been a question that has split the Irish community in Scotland for some time and will continue to do so!
An Dun – I don’t expect a Yes outcome in Scotland to suddenly change the age old nationalist unionist question but it may galvanise support for an all Ireland referendum. Likewise I don’t expect a Yes vote will lead to a United Ireland but it allows the constitutional debate to move to another level.
As for Ernie – sorry you might be a really nice guy and I might agree with you on a number of other things but your continued habit of insulting posters means from now I will be scrolling on by….
Lads,
CQN Saturday naps for week 10, on here please…
Cheers, fleagle1888
CQN Saturday Naps Competition : Week 9 results & standings
Som mes que un club led the way last week (Ventura Mist (@10/1).
Our two front runners stretched further away – Rockon (Scepticism @4/1) & Bada Bing (Hot Streak @9/2).
+£18.00 Rockon Neil Lennon (4)
+£14.00 Bada Bing (3)
+£ 8.50 What is the Stars (2)
+£ 5.50 16 roads (2)
+£ 3.50 fleagle1888 (2)
+£ 3.00 bonbhoy (2)
+£ 2.00 Som mes que un club (1)
+£ 0.00 valentinesday (2)
-£ 2.00 El Madrigal (1)
-£ 4.50 MHARK67 (1)
-£ 4.80 voguepunter (1)
-£ 5.25 Che (1)
-£ 5.50 BULL67 (1)
-£ 5.50 twists n turns (1)
-£ 6.00 BMCUWP (1)
-£ 6.50 PF Ayr (1)
-£ 7.19 Burgas Hoops (1)
-£ 7.20 Sponsored by Cheetah (1)
-£ 9.00 gordybhoy64
-£ 9.00 green T
-£ 9.00 Kilbowie Kelt
-£ 9.00 leftclicktic
-£ 9.00 Magnificentseven
-£ 9.00 pedrocaravanachio67
-£ 9.00 petec
-£ 9.00 tommytwiststommyturns
-£ 9.00 unionbearBhind
*No selection (wk 7) : gordybhoy64, Magnificentseven
*Non-Runners :
Cheers, fleagle1888
Advisory 15:40 Goodwood
Morning all ,going for Tiger Cliff in the 3.50 Newmarket.
Morning CQN
I’ll try “Gods Own” in the 5 15pm Chepstow today. Currently 6/1.
Oldtim, if you look in, just got home yesterday evening, been away for a week or so working. I’ll try to post your stuff out on Monday or Tuesday. Hope you are well.
15:50 @ Newmarket – Domination – NAP!
Good luck to each and every one of you.
Sponsored by Cheetah,
your selection – Advisory (3.40 Gw) – there is no meeting at Goodwood today…
confused in Carntyne (fleagle1888)
EARTH AMBER …3-50 New …NAP
Twisty
Longsdon had five winners recently ..two at Chepstow today …worth a look ??
Wee bit slow out the stalls – let’s see if Duke of Lucca can help me make up some lost ground.
Have a good day all.
… that’ll be the 5.45 at Chepstow. :)
Excellent Result 2:20 York……..hoping for one.
PF
How r ya? at, I’ll have a look. Worth a wee go I guess eh. My lucky 15 today is only worth 25k or so. Small potatoes eh..haha. Didn’t realise there were no games this week cos of internationals. Bust yer ass these international games.
Strobe
1520 Hexham
Arra best.
15.50 Newmarket – Earth Amber
Nicky Hendersons “second string”
Richard Hughes on board at 25/1
Happy Punting
Tiger Cliff 350 New.
Today’s donkey is
HOT STREAK
at Newmarket 14:35
Good luck all
Morning!!!!!!!
Gonna take a flier on
BOGART 330 YORK
Why not,the rest of my naps have been useless…
York 510 St Moritz
Good luck everyone