Back to Celtic Park, CQN prediction from February on Castore deal

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News that fans could be able to attend games from the middle of next month is very welcome.  Lots can happen between now and then but Celtic Park with a reduced capacity is better than an empty Celtic Park.

For those attending, the process of gaining entry to the ground will feel onerous; more like being allowed onto a flight than into a stadium.  A trial-run next week against Motherwell, even if only for 1,000 of us, will be useful to check processes before more significant numbers arrive.

On 20 February this year, a day after Newco advertised on their website for a kit partner, I told you production runs for replica football kit were such, that getting a deal done and shirts on shelves for this season in any volume was impossible.  I wrote, “manufacturing slots are booked in March or early April.  These are high volume items, production cannot be arrange doff the cuff.

“Multi-million pound contracts with any serious manufacturer will require scoping and due diligence, this could take weeks, if not longer.”

There are a small number of manufacturing facilities in the world that can produce these garments in volume, the major brands all use them and production slots are booked – to the minute – months out.

When Newco and Castore announced their deal in May and promised to ship in August, two possibilities occurred to me: I was wrong, or they were both flying by the seat of their threadbare pants.

Yesterday, the kit supplier apologised for adding Castore and Newco logos to school sweatshirts (busted as they had not gone to the trouble of changing details on the washing label).  They also apologised for shipping top quality replica tops from China to some fans, when they intended to only ship inferior kit, manufactured at a location in Turkey.  Yes, really.

Fans are now comparing shirts with a similar quality to any other replica football top, and something that costs the same as any other replica top, but is a very inferior product.

Getting things right in football costs money, takes time and experience.  If you think you can breeze into this industry, bang a few heads together and deliver a world-class deal, you have world-class arrogance.

Newco’s commercial director, James Bisgrove, was less than a year in the job when he put an email address on the club website asking kit suppliers to get in touch.  To be fair to him, it was a terrible position to be in, but he signed a deal without the scoping and due diligence that would prevent fans suffering this debacle.  He does not have the experience required to do the job.

In February, before Castore were even a glint in the Newco eye, I wrote that their new kit deal, “will be a poor contract and it will perform badly for all concerned.”  But all of us who have been paying attention for the last 8 years (and the 12 before) knew that.

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  1. MAD MITCH,

     

    Yep,Seville are ordinary.Beat,Roma,Wolves,Man U,Inter Milan,thats only in the last 16.Something like 6 Europa Cups in 10 years.

     

    Sometimes you do talk some Lilian Gish.

  2. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    I remember the concrete steps in the old Tannadice, it’s was a mental place to go to

  3. The Cash Cow

     

     

    The Cash Cow gets the message,

     

    “Renew, renew, renew!

     

    Season tickets for the few.”

     

    CC responds “But what about our signings, one or two would do!”

     

    PL says “Can’t you see you’re a cash cow?

     

    Renew, renew, renew.”

     

    ‘You do know we need a full back and a left back too?”

     

    “That’s none of your business, does your sort code start with 02?

     

    “So I don’t have a say you just want my money?”

     

    “That’s correct sir, my heated driveway doesn’t run on honey!”

  4. Jamesgang , did you see Jim Spence’s tweet saying if Messi leaves Barca he can join a club who have played Barca four times who beat them four times. His beloved Dundee United.

  5. BT , I’ll listen to the rest of the podcast tomorrow.

     

     

    Talking of a Tannadice , the night we won the league in 1981 was mental.

     

     

    After Murdo scored our first goal , my pal and I ended a fair distance away from where we stood before the goal on those steep concrete steps. It was some night. Tommy’s goal in that game was sublime.

  6. JVR

     

     

    I’ve kinda got a standing joke with him about the fact the ‘own’ Barca.

     

     

    HH jg

  7. BT 11.11pm

     

     

    When Celtic used to get that side of the ground across from the dug outs, those “steps” were steep !

  8. ” I don’t often post here and I never, ever check it out now……………………

     

    …………… I prefer the Yahoo sites …………. so I’m Just back from the bakers where I got a couple of hamburgers and will call in at the newsagents to pick up a tin o’ paint……. or THAT missus o’ mine wull kill me so she wull….”

     

     

    :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

  9. JVR

     

     

    A Sev ?

     

     

    From the Scott Arfield Canadian Sevconian teeshirt wearer that AoW actually wore in plain sight !!!!!

     

     

    Blue is the colour :-)

  10. Gerry , correct 😂😂😂😂.

     

     

    Was not something else that was a sevco blue colour our chum had on.

  11. Jamesgang , Jim is a good man , one of the few in the media not afraid of sevs.

     

     

    There is only one thing that would be a full house of hate for him by sevs, he’s not a Celtic supporter. Otherwise , a Catholic, Ginger, SNP activist and not afraid of them .

  12. JVR 11.33pm

     

     

    Not so much … bloo… he likes to mix his colours up

     

     

    It was his cycle “oranjie” gear

     

     

    Maybe it was for wee Braaified our World Cup winning full back :-)

  13. POG ..

     

     

    The KT interview on open goal you posted the other night was magic, as a family we watch “open goal” on a Friday night as a family as my Mrs & daughter love wee “Slaney” well they are now sleeping and I have watched one of the links and it is Simon Ferry being interviewed … and speaking of Tommy Burns … outstanding … Tommy Burns typifies Celtic … or what I want Celtic to be 👍

  14. when the welding is sonic

     

    yet the kit looks pure chronic

     

    …that’s castore

     

     

    made for primary schools

     

    and all gullible fools

     

    …that’s castore

     

     

    SchadenfreudeCSC

  15. Just watched last 20 mins of Celtic Soul with Jay Baruschel on TG4. He is a Canadian comedy actor with a big passion for Celtic . He got behind the scenes access during Ronnie Deila’s reign . It was lovely to see Tony Donnelly formerly of this Parish showing around the Gorbals. Also Greg Hemphill sitting with him.HH

  16. Gerry, Simon Ferry holds Tommy in such high esteem as he rightly mentions him often when he interviews ex Celtic players.

  17. JVR 1.02am

     

     

    I think all who met Tommy do the same

     

     

    Fellow Celts gngb

     

     

    Roll on tannadichy

     

     

    Hail Hail

  18. Roll on 17.30. Don’t know much about the current Dundee Utd team, but at least it’s a grass pitch.

     

     

    COYBIG.

  19. 31003 on 21ST AUGUST 2020 10:37 PM

     

     

    Oh and anyone who has an ambition to be a politician should automatically be barred from being one,

     

     

    Couldn’t agree more. Each and every one of them a cheat, a liar and only in it for themselves. Vote? Yer havin a laff

     

    _________

     

    This attitude (while on the surface persuasive) is actually a crock of shit and encouraged by those who want to exploit and disempower you. Every single thing that makes your life decent is thanks to voting/democracy -the NHS, human rights, education etc etc… everything. Why the hell do you think there was a civil rights movement in the north of Ireland? Or were they just wasting their time (and in some cases their lives)?

     

     

    I’m going to assume from your post that you didn’t vote in the Brexit referendum. As a result of this the NHS is going to get sold off to the big US pharma companies, we’re going to be eating chlorinated chicken and countless worker’s, environmental and human rights are going to be rolled back.

     

     

    Expect to see more zero hour contracts, homelessness and poverty. And you couldn’t even be arsed to vote in the most important political decision in decades that will effect every one of us for the rest of our lives? WTF is wrong with you? Have you got kids? ‘Cause if you do you’ve sold them out and you’ve also hurt me and my children by your ignorance and laziness. From your posts you give the impression that you’re proud you don’t vote – you shouldn’t be proud you should be ashamed of yourself for betraying everything that your ancestors fought for.

     

     

    The whole ‘ all politicians are liars and cheats’ is designed to make it easier for people like Trump and Johnson to get into power – if the population have such low expectations then they won’t complain when they end up with liars and cheats in government.

     

     

    Wake up ffs.

  20. Auldheid (from last night)

     

    Canamalar posted earleir in the week. Still in Kuwait. Responded to a query from our Dundee correspondent. 👍

  21. To use your vote is to decide your future, you and your families. That’s why Trump and his like, all over the World, are so determined to rob the American, and every orther citizen on the planet, of theirs. They fear people power, scared stiff of it, por cierto.

  22. fourstonecoppi on

    FRANKTERRY on 22ND AUGUST 2020 7:26 AM

     

     

    well said that man……….makes my blood boil!!

  23. Recalling my time at school, the elite pupils went onto become doctors, dentists, solicitors etc. Those slightly below that standard would become skilled tradesmen . But the group below that who had no talent at all had a much narrower choice. They would either embrace criminality………or become politicians!

  24. FOURSTONECOPPI on 22ND AUGUST 2020 8:22 AM

     

     

    Cheers. We could do with more people getting angry.

  25. Good morning, friends from a damp but grey East Kilbride.

     

    I expect a tough test at Tannadice later today but looking forward to seeing The Champions play. Even better if we were to play 3-5-2…..

  26. Frankterry/Fourstonecoppi

     

     

    Before you both jump into a political broadcast, just like politicians, you both assumed WRONG about my Brexit voting right.

     

    And with that……I have no more to say except……keep your assumptions to yourselves.

  27. Gooooooooood morning troops from a lovely sunny Garngad

     

     

    3-1 tonight for the bhoys. ⚽️👍🍻🍻

     

     

    No pub again for us bhoys, prefering to drink in the houses for the games, a wee bit uncomfortable about going to the pub just now, especially after check up at docs yesterday where he confirmed I am a fat unhealthy fellow. But stunningly good looking of course and apparently I now have high blood pressure.

     

     

    No feckin wonder I said to the doc, that eejit Bollingolli has upset everyone.

     

     

    COYBIG

     

     

    Bring on the Arabs a welcome addition to the top flight and if memory serves me right they stood up to the zombies.

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

     

    D :)

  28. Can I have an apology from you both and a declaration that if the NHS is sold off it is entirely not my fault. Assumptions? You both act like politicians

  29. 31003 on 22ND AUGUST 2020 9:35 AM

     

     

    You’re not making any sense. Which version is the real one? The one that that thinks voting is a waste of time and all politicians are the same or the one that votes?

     

     

    “We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.” Kurt Vonnegut.