BBC article shows “writing on the wall”


Chris McLaughlin’s article on BBC last night had a style to it: informed, pointing the way things will go, but revealing no sources.  Null and void has “pretty much been taken off the table as an option”.

“Playing out the season is what everyone wants, but there is a growing realisation that this scenario is looking increasingly unlikely.”  Whereas ending the league now “is the outcome that most are now expecting”.

“Rangers [sic.] might argue that Celtic could be caught. Few in the game believe that would happen in reality, and it may well be that inside Ibrox they are already aware that calling the season is more than likely.”

Even Ann Budge at Hearts, we are told, “is also a pragmatist and if the writing is on the wall, she will get the best deal she can and get on with it.”  Before Chris added “for Hearts fans the writing is very much on the wall.”

The article is caveated, I know as much as anyone that even impeccably sourced information can be invalidated by changing circumstances, but we do not see journalists who have access to impeccable sources, which Chris McLaughlin has, use phrases like “taken off the table”, “the outcome most are now expecting” and “writing is very much on the wall” without those sources being consulted.

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    My take is that its up to the Conservs to change their approach to these things moving forward. They are really caught between a rock and a hardplace.




  2. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on



    My daughter’s birthday today and her first was the day we won the league under MON



    Hopefully jnr first birthday will be the day we win 10 inarow ☘️


    FRIESDORFER on 7TH APRIL 2020 6:44 PM



    All depends on when the PP decides he has been off the bevy long enough.Quite right tae.

  4. deniabhoy



    England’s population is far bigger than that of Spain, and the UK’s at 68 million bigger again. Certainly more people out and about today in Central London, not all of whom are practising any semblance of social distancing. The male of the populace, from age 20s to 50s serial offenders for example. Might be worthy of discussion. Re the NHS, University College Hospital, at Euston, which I visited only two weeks back, is now a Corona Virus hospital, with nearly every ward now full of patients suspected of or infected by Covid19. That is by policy. Re new cases, well I am sure there is no shortage, but as for new infections, barring hospitalisation or worse there is simply no way of knowing the actual extent or impact of the epidemic even in the epicentre of it . Stay Well.

  5. Friesdorfer


    You’re going above and beyond – it definitely ends on Maundy Thursday – or after the Easter vigil Mass latest. Never heard of anyone observing Lent on Easter Sunday.



    Anyway good luck and God bless. 😇

  6. As I wander through the canyons of my mind I think back to the time when fitba was pre murdoch, and I don’t mean Chopper here.



    My first cup final was against the Pars in 1961 and from there until I left the country 14 years later all the finals were late April or early May, including replays.



    In fact until the 1968 game between the Pars and calvinists there were also League fixtures on the same day. In 1965 as kilmasonic were clinching the title at swinecastle we were all watching “Big Billy’s Bumper”.



    And the day this fiasco ended with the Big Mhan watching the Pars ending again the calvinists dream the sheep were ending deidco’s unbeaten run at hades to literally hand us the title, due tae that game at hunden our match at East End Park was postponed and played 3 days later.



    After that Jock went after the SFA stating like down south no games should be played on Cup Final day as it should be the showcase of the season and it was when the following year we had the George Connolly show at the national stadium.



    And so this continued until with restructuring more games appeared but as far as I’m aware the final never went beyond the end of May.



    After the celebrations the players usually went on their summer sabbatical generally not returning to training until July. There was usually a wee tour, Ireland was a favourite, and friendly’s were common, exhibition games, greens v whites pre season and then the Dryborough Cup surfaced but prior to that it wasn’t until August that the League Cup started the new season, by then we were chomping at the bit tae see a game.



    And then money raised its ugly head UEFA and greedy fckrs like murdoch, bader etc couldnae get enough of it and soon there was nae close season as they all ran intae each other, nae wonder our players who due tae their talent and our success were playing in European competitions and Internationals as well looked cream crackered come Christmas.



    This summer may be the break the game needs, players can relax, recharge their batteries and they wee niggly injuries and strains can have a chance tae mend.



    Enjoy it while you can as Dr Fauci said last night our lives will NEVER be the same again.

  7. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    We always had this debate in days of yore (😉) on CQN


    Some say Holy Thursday others


    Midday holy Saturday ..



    It takes me all my time to abstain on Ash Wednesday and good Friday

  8. BhoyJoeBelfast



    Huge Congrats to all the family, and Welcome to the new Bhoy







    One of my bhoys has a friend who is Spanish but over here studying


    She was isolated herself so I suggested she came here a couple of weeks ago.



    She said in Spain when Uni shut all the kids were having parties at the start


    I hope our kids having a couple of weeks watching Italy and Spain were a bit








    is that I think its just because we are not testing people(see no Evil)



    Our death rate high because nobody knows how many people actually have it. My boss took his mother in law to hospital week ago she had high fever confirmed she had it.



    Boss his kids or wife who were her main contact were denied testing.



    See no evil as I say



    Sad but true

  10. Philbhoy


    Will do – they’ve had a €2bn bail out from the German government. I’m sure they can manage my £1,100

  11. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Philbhoy- the travel expert Simon Calder was on tv last week ,he said a lot of carriers have removed the refund option from websites. He said don’t accept a voucher if it doesn’t suit you,you are entitled to a full cash refund, but he said they are making it awkward on purpose, waiting on phone for ages etc.

  12. Ray Winstone's Big Disembodied Heid on

    Just seen this headline…………… Clap for Boris!



    Is that an exhortation or a diagnosis?

  13. Matt Stewart on

    Right last piece of nonsense for a while….need to spend some time preparing my plan of action for that moment when I am faced with consuming my last Tunnock’s Caramel Wafer.



    So till then…. a wee tale just sent to me by a pal in Belfast.





    You’ve got to love the Irish Mammy! ☘ 😉😅 😂



    Young Paddy invited his mother for dinner, during the course of the meal his mother couldn’t help but notice how lovely Paddy’s flat mate, Joanne, was.



    She had long been suspicious of a relationship between the two, and this only made her more curious.


    Over the course of the evening, while watching the two interact, she started to wonder if there was more between young Paddy and his flat mate than met the eye.



    Reading his mum’s thoughts, Young Paddy volunteered, ‘I know what you must be thinking, but I assure you, Joanne & I are just flat mates’.



    About a week later, Joanne came to young Paddy saying, ‘Ever since your mother came to dinner,


    I’ve been unable to find the frying pan, you don’t suppose she took it do you??



    ‘Well I doubt it, but I’ll e-mail her just to be sure’ said Paddy.


    So he sat down and wrote















    Several days later, Paddy received an email from his mother which read
















    Hail Hail till we meet again






    p.s. My young brother is on what we call the ‘front line’ of dealing with the current pandemic. He has a fairly typical black humour that is a trait in our family. A couple of days ago he sent me a message as follows….



    “There’s a lot of well meaning stuff going around just now. Admirable. But can I just say that if one more person tells me to “stay safe” I’m gonna wedge my boot up their hole.

  14. Friesdorfer (and others) on the duration of lent.



    if you start from the premise that lent lasts for 40 days then the only way that works out arithmetically, from Ash Wednesday as ‘day 1’ is by ignoring the Sundays (which are of course days of celebration).


    So you have the Wed, Thu Fri, Sat = 4 days


    Then the Monday – Saturday for 5 weeks = 5 x 6 = 30 days.


    Then another 6 for Holy week, Monday – Saturday.


    Lent is over once you’ve been to your Easter Sunday mass – hence the Saturday vigil always being busy!


    Oh and just because the Sundays don’t count in the arithmetical calculation, they still fall during lent – so whatever yer aff for lent, you do it from Ash Wednesday till Holy Saturday.


    I think….

  15. At this time we must be a bit less selfish. I have a friend who is a dwarf and he struggles to put food on the table.




  16. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    SFTB – from last thread, thank you for info re Cardinal George.



    Very enjoyable.

  17. Bhoys,



    Many thanks for the constructive replies.



    I don’t think ” normal business ” will resume after this.This virus is a gamechanger.


    Tax evasion/ avoidance by individuals and companies will not be tolerated.



    I don’t see any government no matter how stupid,cutting NHS funding in the foreseeable future.


    The phrase ” I’m only” will be banished. Our cleaners, shopworkers etc will be properly recognised.


    We are all in this together, and short memories or market forces will not be acceptable.



    I sincerely hope and think so.






    PS : Obscene salaries to footballers will also come under pressure, and rightly so in my opinion.

  18. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Still waiting on utility and mobile phone companies, making an effort to help folk out.

  19. Bhoyjoebelfast on

    Many thanks to all for their kind words and best wishes.My long standing friend in the Port ( since 1966) sent me a little leaflet;For the Beatification of Margaret Sinclair.Inside is a piece of cloth which touched her body at exhumation.It will be put to use as one sees fit.


    Many Thanks once again.

  20. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on



    we can hope that is the way forward

  21. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on



    This is all we can offer at the moment


    Families who are self-isolating and are on electric / gas meters or smart meters, can call the following provider numbers and organise to be sent 2 weeks credit for their meter:


    British Gas – 0333 202 9802


    EDF – 0333 200 5100


    EON – 0345 052 000


    N Power – 0800 073 3000


    Scottish Power – 0800 027 0072


    SSE – 0345 0262 658.

  22. mild mannered Pedro delgado on

    JUst read back



    Very entertaining, spesh bada bing and Matt Stewart



    God bless all here

  23. Just to confuse matters:




    Some named days and day ranges around Lent and Easter in Western Christianity, with the fasting days of Lent numbered


    Various Christian denominations calculate the 40 days of Lent differently. The way they observe Lent also differs.



    Roman Catholicism[edit]


    In the Roman Rite since 1970, Lent starts on Ash Wednesday and ends on Holy Thursday Evening (before the Evening Mass of the Lord’s Supper). This comprises a period of 44 days. The Lenten fast excludes Sundays and continues through Good Friday and Holy Saturday, totaling 40 days.[24][25]



    In the Ambrosian Rite, Lent begins on the Sunday that follows what is celebrated as Ash Wednesday in the rest of the Latin Catholic Church, and ends as in the Roman Rite, thus being of 40 days, counting the Sundays but not Holy Thursday. The day for beginning the Lenten fast is the following Monday, the first weekday in Lent. The special Ash Wednesday fast is transferred to the first Friday of the Ambrosian Lent. Until this rite was revised by Saint Charles Borromeo the liturgy of the First Sunday of Lent was festive, celebrated in white vestments with chanting of the Gloria in Excelsis and Alleluia, in line with the recommendation in Matthew 6:16, “When you fast, do not look gloomy”.[26][27][28]



    During Lent the Church discourages marriages, but couples may do so if they forgo the special blessings of the Nuptial Mass and reduced social celebrations.[29]



    The period of Lent observed in the Eastern Catholic Churches corresponds to that in other churches of Eastern Christianity that have similar traditions.



    Protestantism and Western Orthodoxy[edit]


    In Protestant and Western Orthodox Churches, the season of Lent lasts from Ash Wednesday to the evening of Holy Saturday.[19][30] This calculation makes Lent last 46 days if the 6 Sundays are included, but only 40 days if they are excluded.[31] This definition is still that of the Anglican Church,[32] Lutheran Church,[33] Methodist Church,[18] and Western Rite Orthodox Church.[34]



    Eastern Orthodoxy and Byzantine Rite[edit]


    Main article: Great Lent


    In the Byzantine Rite, i.e., the Eastern Orthodox Great Lent (Greek: Μεγάλη Τεσσαρακοστή or Μεγάλη Νηστεία, meaning “Great 40 Days” and “Great Fast” respectively) is the most important fasting season in the church year.[35]



    The 40 days of Great Lent includes Sundays, and begins on Clean Monday and are immediately followed by what are considered distinct periods of fasting, Lazarus Saturday and Palm Sunday, which in turn are followed straightway by Holy Week. Great Lent is broken only after the Paschal (Easter) Divine Liturgy.



    The Eastern Orthodox Church maintains the traditional Church’s teaching on fasting. The rules for lenten fasting are the monastic rules. Fasting in the Orthodox Church is more than simply abstaining from certain foods. During the Great Lent Orthodox Faithful intensify their prayers and spiritual exercises, go to church services more often, study the Scriptures and the works of the Church Fathers in depth, limit their entertainment and spendings and focus on charity and good works.



    Oriental Orthodoxy[edit]


    Among the Oriental Orthodox, there are various local traditions regarding Lent. Those using the Alexandrian Rite, i.e., the Coptic Orthodox, Coptic Catholic, Ethiopian Orthodox, Ethiopian Catholic, Eritrean Orthodox, and Eritrean Catholic Churches, observe eight weeks of Lent.



    In Ethiopian Orthodoxy, fasting (tsome) lasts for 55 continuous days before Easter (Fasika), although the fast is divided into three separate periods: Tsome Hirkal, eight days commemorating an early Christian figure; Tsome Arba, 40 days of Lent; and Tsome Himamat, seven days commemorating Holy Week.[36][37][38] Fasting involves abstention from animal products (meat, dairy, and eggs), and refraining from eating or drinking before 3:00 pm.[36] Ethiopian devotees may also abstain from sexual activity and the consumption of alcohol.[36]



    As in the Eastern Orthodox Churches, the date of Easter is reckoned according to the Julian Calendar, and usually occurs later than Easter according to Gregorian Calendar used by Catholic and Protestant Churches.

  24. !!BADA BING!!



    I don’t do modern phones! Don’t do apps or internet on it.



    As long as I can phone and text, I’m fine.



    I’ve got a Blackberry



    Use Tesco Mobile. You get credit for 3 X what you spend a month, so a tenner gets me £30 .



    I got a text from them saying free phone calls between 8pm and 8am weekdays and at the weekend.



    Until June 1st.



    I don’t use the phone much and am able to spend a lot of it supporting charites, ie water aid for example. £3.00 a time.



    So happy wi’ ma wee phone and the service provider.

  25. !!Bada Bing!! on

    BT- Thanks for posting that,might help a few out,but across the board these companies could well afford a couple of months grace,probably won’t happen now.HH

  26. This is my 48th year off drink for Lent, the fact that I’ve not had a drink for over 7 years now disnae mean I cannae still give it up.



    I can recall as a wee bhoy Lent ending at noon on Holy Saturday, that changed tae midnight and went back and forth.



    Fast forward many years and a I’m helping out at the Holy Thursday service, the PP who would later become a Bishop asked me to stop by the sacristy.



    When I got in there were several bottles of “precious blood” as he called it and it had to be consumed that night.



    “Love to Father” I said “but I’m off drink for Lent”. “First of all” he replied “Its not drink but precious blood and also Lent ended at midnight last night as this is the Tridium”



    So I did and quaffed a few large glasses and even though I hadn’t had a drink for over 6 weeks I walked down the road sober.

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